technology

[storm osprey]

uhhhh

[supple bane]

wait, what was the first one

XT?

[storm osprey]

yea

[supple bane]

ah

6800 is shit, 6800xt looks good

[storm osprey]

i dont get that pricing

[supple bane]

ooh, here we go

[prime jasper]

the one without xt was comprared to 2080ti with equals 3070, but 6800 is more expensive

[storm osprey]

thats what ive been saying svi

[supple bane]

still 16gb?!

really amd

really

[storm osprey]

i mean, 16gb is more than enough

(for gaming)

[molten coral]

69

[prime jasper]

Don't need more for gaming in 4K

[storm osprey]

so they are really matching nvidia

[supple bane]

so the same as a 3090

[storm osprey]

uhhh but way cheaper

6900xt 1k

vs 3090 is what? 1300?

[supple bane]

1400

amd

[prime jasper]

...and that is why a 3080ti is coming

[supple bane]

hats off. gj

[storm osprey]

its weird they are competing with high end and now mid now...

[prime jasper]

3090 is 1699 I think

[storm osprey]

nah

[supple bane]

it better be stable

[storm osprey]

^

outside of 6800 thats the only concern right now is stability

[supple bane]

that ratio tho

[molten coral]

Just hope the drivers are good AMD has most of the time shitty drivers

[storm osprey]

drivers killed 5000 series

[prime jasper]

There isn't that much difference in gaming between 3090 and 3080, at least not even remotely worth the price. Since the availablity of the 3080 has been so low people have desperately been buying 3090 here. I bet they'll be angry about how much they payed

[storm osprey]

well now to get 3090 performance its a reasonable price hike to 1k

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUioPsLRKA

btw

dropped 2 minutes ago

[prime jasper]

We'll see 3080ti soon I guess, but how the hell are they going to solve their availability problems?

[supple bane]

maybe nvidia will drive the price down because of this

[prime jasper]

They probably won't, but the 3080ti with the rumoured spec's between 3090 and 3080 will get a much lower price than 3090. A qualified guess is $999

[storm osprey]

3070 price wont change, MAYBE 3080 does something to counter (doubt though, amd only 50 bucks cheaper), only 3090 has any incentive to drop price but they probably wont and point to 3090 not being a gaming gpu and more of a titan

side note, these have ray tracing and they didnt talk performance

[grand geode]

Do you guys think that high CPU usage (90-100%) can induce network-wise lags in-game?

[magic gust]

How good are the Radeon gpu compared to the rtx 3000 series

[prime jasper]

In what way do you mean?

performance, performance oer watt, price, raytracing?

For games 6800 seems to be faster than 3070, but $50 more expensive, 6800xt seems around the same performance as 3080 but $50 cheaper, 6900xt around the same as 3090 but $500 cheaper

this without using raytracing

[turbid verge]

6800xt is a good competitor to the 3080

the 3090 is rip for those who bought it lol

and the 6800 is suposed to be something inbetween the 3070 and 3080

although amd has plans for the 6700 and 6700xt

most likely to compete with the 3070 and 3060

[prime jasper]

In the AMD presentation they used "smart access memory" for both 6800 & 6900Xt graphs and "rage mode" overclock for the 6900xt so the numbers will be lower without those.

[turbid verge]

rage mode looks useless

[storm osprey]

@magic gust per announcement they are competitive, but that is with cherry picked games lik BFV (highly favors amd cards)

but maybe too similarly priced for the performance they give outside of 6900xt (for gaming)

[turbid verge]

I want to see reviews on the ray tracing and their own version of DLSS

[magic gust]

Well performance/price

[prime jasper]

and they compared with a 320W 3080 against the 6800xt

[storm osprey]

they probably didnt mention it because its their first gen and likely doesnt compete @turbid verge

[turbid verge]

most likely

[storm osprey]

@prime jasper 6800xt is 300w, so not really a "omg its much more efficient" difference

[turbid verge]

the 6900 xt is th most interesting

[prime jasper]

Not for effiency, but for performance

[storm osprey]

6900xt is a gaming card while it competes against a "titan class' card in 3090

different uses imo

[turbid verge]

I mean nvidia said the 3090 wasnt for gaming

its like the titan series

they're used for aritmetic calculations and redering mostly

so for editor and studios is a great card

lots of Vram etc

[storm osprey]

yea, but people arent that smart

theres so many comments that amd killed nvidia with this announcement when really its coming off as amd is just finally going to challenge them

well 5000 series challenged them but drivers sucked for so long that amd shot itself

[prime jasper]

I agree, with the exception of 6900xt maybe

Which one might say is still not worth it over 6800Xt though

[storm osprey]

imo youre buying a 6900xt for bragging rights because the 6800xt is the much better choise

kind of same scenario with 3090, its bragging rights for gaming more than a logical purchasing decision

[prime jasper]

Still, it is nice to see a fairly even competition again

[storm osprey]

but at least the 6900xt is way cheaper

[lime ferry]

@eager aurora so what’s your GPU and CPU

You can’t change anything with your PC at all since it’s being delivered now correct? I was hoping to see if I could boost your fps by checking out what parts could be viable

I just wouldn’t want to destroy your epic pc build because of just suggestions

[eager aurora]

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Super Gaming OC 8g & AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.6GHz

[lime ferry]

Oh snap. that’s actually pretty Pog

[eager aurora]

This is a more starting point I’m upgrading a few parts down the line

[lime ferry]

Gotcha. Smart move there... now. Is there a reason you chose the Ryzen 7 over 9?

That’s what I plan on getting

[eager aurora]

I talked to a lot of people on the build a pc subreddit and discord they said I’d only need the power of a 9 if I was going to do video editing or anything super strenuous so I picked a 7 since it’s just for gaming

[lime ferry]

Gotcha. That makes sense, I plan on doing, streaming, editing, and gaming, so I’m trying to just get the fullest optimization.

[storm osprey]

well a 3700x is more of a step above gaming cpu too

3600 is the go to gaming cpu right now

(even if the 10400f is better)

[lime ferry]

But that’s a smart move. I’ve been doing a lot less research because I don’t have the finances right now. But when I do. I’ll be asking you guys. I have my GPU/CPU picked out. Just might want a high end SSD

[eager aurora]

Yeah it’s hefty enough if I wanted to stream I can, same with VR I have options where I don’t need to upgrade a lot.

I ended up going with a 1TB Western Digital SN550 and a 4TB Seagate Barracuda

[lime ferry]

Most of you seem like AMD guys which is nice. I have no problem with intel, I just want an awesome performance with quality

@eager aurora is that the highest SSD available right now?

[eager aurora]

In terms of size speed or quality?

[storm osprey]

i only care about price to performance and what covers my needs

im slightly biased to amd since i want them to make the market competitive

[eager aurora]

Price wise it is mid range; size it is mid range and quality is mid to high

Speed I’m unsure since I can’t test that yet

[lime ferry]

@eager aurora preferably quality.

I’m so intrigued by how many pieces and parts are out for PC to make you the best rig ever

[prime jasper]

I am sitting with Intel 9900K and Nvidia 1080ti watercooled but I am failry agnostic so I don't keep any manufacture preferences

[lime ferry]

I’ll be completely honest. I just don’t know what to get

[eager aurora]

It’s a good quality I think the ‘best one’ is the Addlink S70

[storm osprey]

@lime ferry get for what?

[prime jasper]

With their latest products AMD is doing really good in both cpu and gpu, there is no denying that

[eager aurora]

They have an announcement today don’t they?

[storm osprey]

amd finished their 6000 series announcement like an hour ago

[prime jasper]

yeah, that is what we have been discussing today

[eager aurora]

How did it look?

[prime jasper]

Like they have equal products to Nvidia

[eager aurora]

Nice; I might make the switch only went with Nvidia for raytracing

Been busy trying to cancel my Cyberpunk order

[prime jasper]

They didn't talk about their raytracing performance though, it has been rumoured to be equal to 2080ti's raytracing, so worse than the 3000-series in that regard.

[eager aurora]

That’s promising

[lime ferry]

@storm osprey the parts for a nasa space rig lol

It’s going to be 2000$-2500$ for sure plus tax

[storm osprey]

jesus christ

tip, you dont have to spend that much because you can

after 3080 and 5600x you are going to get marginal gains in gaming vs spending a lot more

[eager aurora]

I hit the 2,200$ mark

I don’t mind spending the money now knowing I’m going to sell it all later down the line

[prime jasper]

AMD 6800 seems to be slightly faster than 3070, but $50 more expensive
AMD 6800xt seems around the same as 3080 but $50 cheaper
AMD 6900xt around the same as 3090 but $500 cheaper

[storm osprey]

500 cheaper

at least for NA

[eager aurora]

Yeah they are playing the price game trying to move higher end models and sway people who were looking to go high end

[prime jasper]

ah yes sorry I was wrong

Here in Sweden we can't get the FE models even if they were in stock, which they aren't. They haven't solved the issue of who is going to sell them (maybe even their own store will sell again) like they have in other parts of the world

[lime ferry]

time to get a pc build for black Friday

[lilac delta]

IPS or VA for one monitor?

I want to switch from IPS to VA panel again because of blacklight bleeding and dark is not dark (bad contrast ratio). I don’t notice the color improvement anyway.

[storm osprey]

last i heard VA were prone to ghosting, so fuck that

[lilac delta]

Hmm yes ... but i hate it that black isn’t black on IPS screen. And less fps and performance unless you pay almost double.

[storm osprey]

ehh, i kind of like not having crushed blacks

[strong breach]

Blacklight bleeding is not only an IPS panel issue pretty sure about that

At least my brother had issues with VA panel doing the same

[lilac delta]

Is 75hz enough for fps games?

[supple bane]

depends

[lilac delta]

Battlefield?

[storm osprey]

depends on you

for bfv sure, bfv doesnt have ranked or sbmm

[supple bane]

Battlefield?
@lilac delta are you coming from 60hz?

[storm osprey]

personally i hate playing sub 100fps

[supple bane]

if you have never experienced 144hz properly then 75hz is fine, but the moment you play with 144 you wont be able to go back lol

[lilac delta]

Is 5ms response time good for IPS 75hz panel or do I need 1ms? 1440p

I played with 144 and can’t really tell difference with a stable 75.

Ips 144hz 1ms 1440p is just so expensive...

[storm osprey]

you gotta check the actual response time and if theres any problems like overshooting or ghosting

i think most monitors are normally getting around 10ms response time

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-rx-6000-gpus-to-boost-perf-with-ryzen-5000-cpus-via-smart-memory-access

AMD’s Radeon RX 6000 series launch revealed one exciting and somewhat unexpected new technology - AMD’s Radeon RX 6000 GPUs will now operate in tandem with AMD’s Ryzen 5000 processors (with the caveat that you need a 500-series motherboard) through a new Smart Access Memory feature that will boost gaming performance by enhancing data transfer between the CPU and GPU.

[storm osprey]

RAGE MODE

[latent light]

No point in trying to buy a RTX 3000 card now

[storm osprey]

the only point where amd is the obvious choice is 6900xt vs 3090

and 3090 isnt even a gaming card

[latent light]

RTX 3000 series has no stock, outperformed by RX 6000 series, higher power draw, more expensive

[storm osprey]

outperformed barely, barely higher power draw, and 3070 is cheaper than 6800....

[lilac delta]

The QWHD Nano IPS 1ms 144hz from LG ultragear looks good

[storm osprey]

6800xt 300w and 3080 320w

[latent light]

6800 is also considerably faster than the 3070

[storm osprey]

no its not..

per amds own cherry picked sample pool its 18% faster

well it costs 20% more so...

expect that 18% faster number to drop with independent reviews and a larger sample pool

[latent light]

Also have to consider that 6800 has double the VRAM

[storm osprey]

which wont matter on 99% of games even at 4k

[latent light]

I know a lot of games in 1080p ultra settings that fully allocates 8GB VRAM

[storm osprey]

allocates isnt the same as what is uses

and which games?

ive not came across many games allocating more than 8gb at 1440p

[latent light]

Tomb Raider games and Doom 2016/eternal can use over 8GB at 1080p

[storm osprey]

sus

[latent light]

Also games are gonna use a lot more vram next year

[storm osprey]

because console?

[latent light]

Ye

[storm osprey]

if that were true we would have had a core count increase years ago

[latent light]

Photorealism and ray-tracing

No games this year can take advantage of PS5/Xbox XS tech

[storm osprey]

ps4 core count was 8 right?

that came out in 2014?

and 4c8t still going strong on pc

on ray tracing apparently amd doesnt have hardware to do that, it will be software based

[latent light]

PS4 has 8 cores but the piledriver architecture makes it like a 4c/8t CPU

[storm osprey]

while nvidia is on gen 2 of ray tracing

shadow of the tomb raider

not even hitting 8gb at 4k

ah thats 2020 doom

either way thats a short and niche list

assuming amd has stability and their numbers are not that far off from what they are saying, at their given prices yea, i would give the nod to amd, but its not crushing by any means

outside of 5000 series stability those cards challenged their respective price points too (probably even better than the 6000 series do minue the 6900xt), but steamcharts showed them not making a dent

[lilac delta]

If gpu produces 60 db under load is it useful to have a silent cpucooler (14-30 db)?

[storm osprey]

60db measured where?

case closed at fixed distance?

then theres still a concern of pitch

[lilac delta]

Rtx 3070

In game

[storm osprey]

if your gpu is putting out 60db with case closed at a fixed distance then i wouldnt by vying to get noctua coolers

[lilac delta]

Sry I mean 36db but with 100% fan it’s 60 apparently... does a silent cpu cooler makes a difference if gpu is louder or?

[storm osprey]

your not adding to it and it could be a different pitch

thats a loaded question..

[storm osprey]

>lets throw bfv and in there for a cherry picked title in our small sample pool of 10

i dont see any other reason to put in a 2 year old game that hardly anyone is asking for benchmarks for anymore

[coarse nimbus]

its massive popularity /s

[storm osprey]

outside of bfv and forza youre talking about being near identical everywhere else

i think its weird recently with anything amd announces people just take it as gospel, theres seemingly no critical thinking going on behind these announcements

i HOPE they are true, i plan on getting a 5600x no matter what, and even though im kinda stuck with nvidia i want amd to make the gpu segment competitive

but damn, too many people are taking words blindly and just trying so hard to have this narrative of amd taking on intel/nvidia and winning

[glossy plinth]

nyphon!

im back

finally unmuted

[storm osprey]

lol you fool

[glossy plinth]

the fuck is a rage mode on the 6900xt

prob just another name for overclock

[storm osprey]

basically

even though in amds fine print any oc will void warranty

[coarse nimbus]

its a 1 button overclock mode

with an edge lord name because marketing

poggers ive had rage mode on my 1070ti all this time!

[glossy plinth]

i would try overclocking in my 5700xt but sheet

even my temps idles are high

[wanton carbon]

https://youtu.be/6poHkIBSGhw?t=8 why do gatreon black switches sound SO SO NICE , i am 100% gonna get these in my next keyboard

[storm osprey]

blacks are THICC

errr.. wait

@wanton carbon you can swap switches on any mechanical keyboard really

just gotta learn to solder which i heard is not hard at all

[wanton carbon]

i have a razer keyboard

idk if i can rlly change the switches

[storm osprey]

you can

[glossy plinth]

i have a corsair keyboard

dont think i can change mines aswell

[storm osprey]

you can change those too

you can

[wanton carbon]

ooo rlly

[glossy plinth]

sheet we learnin

[storm osprey]

gotta learn to solder

[molten coral]

I can't change mine

[wanton carbon]

what keyboard do u have

[storm osprey]

lol well you got super proprietary logitech keyboard xD

[molten coral]

Logitech G815

[storm osprey]

hmmmm

[glossy plinth]

clean looking keyboard

ngl

[molten coral]

It's a really nice keyboard

and low profile

[wanton carbon]

my keyboard is thiccc

[molten coral]

I had to type on my old keyboard a few days ago and it was terrible

[storm osprey]

yea logitech uses a different pin layout so you cant replace them

[glossy plinth]

yo nyphon

[storm osprey]

howdy

[glossy plinth]

what are your thoughts about rgb keycaps

rgb pudding keycaps*

[molten coral]

I despise them

[storm osprey]

i mean, i dont care for rgb but at least pudding keycabs are commonly doubleshot

which is my only requirement for keycaps

[wanton carbon]

pudding keycaps tbf look nice but i feel like at night they can GLARE in ur eyes

[glossy plinth]

oh shit i think you right

[storm osprey]

gotta have my doubleshot keycaps

[molten coral]

I want some custom keycaps but I would need a new keyboard and they are pretty expensive

[storm osprey]

tai hao keycaps are decently priced

[wanton carbon]

i am just gonna get a hotswappable keyboard and get gatreon black switches XD

[glossy plinth]

my friend bought 3 different sets of keycaps and he changes it everyday

[storm osprey]

@wanton carbon GMMK

actually theres a better hotswappable keyboard out now but i forget the name

[glossy plinth]

rgb pudding doesnt give fps boosts

so no point

[wanton carbon]

loll

[glossy plinth]

you wanna know what does tho?

[wanton carbon]

my keyboard should last a long time

[glossy plinth]

Corsair products

[storm osprey]

get out

i wish you were muted again

[glossy plinth]

im just saying the facts man

[wanton carbon]

i have 2 CORSAIR products and thats ram and a AIO

ohh an a PSU

so i have 3

[glossy plinth]

i have 4 corsair products

boutta be 6 soon

[wanton carbon]

i like the look at some of the mice they do

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Wireless-Programmable-Multi-Colour-Backlighting/dp/B083KZB7XW/ref=asc_df_B083KZB7XW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=427924502761&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15359178721808700463&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045514&hvtargid=pla-904283818770&psc=1&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=102078539880&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=427924502761&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15359178721808700463&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045514&hvtargid=pla-904283818770

[glossy plinth]

rgb glaive pro

[molten coral]

I wanna have the G502 wireless so badly but my normal g502 is still good after 5 years

[storm osprey]

thats my custom keyboard

[wanton carbon]

wireless mice seem pointless to me

[glossy plinth]

you forgot to turn on the rgb lol

[storm osprey]

i only have underglow rgb

[wanton carbon]

he gonna get mad ahain

tbf i like a grey and cyan blue keycaps

[molten coral]

[glossy plinth]

LTT Approved: RGB gives more fps

[wanton carbon]

im sorry if u dont like the look at that keyboard then i am gonna have to block u

[glossy plinth]

isnt that keyboard a

tenkeyless?

[wanton carbon]

idk

[glossy plinth]

i mean

add a bit of rgb and its good

[wanton carbon]

yup

i would have cyan underglow

[storm osprey]

no thats not a tkl keyboard @glossy plinth

[wanton carbon]

its not a tkl

[glossy plinth]

oh shit my dumbass

its the other way around

[storm osprey]

tkl still have the arrow keys and those home, end, delete, keys

[glossy plinth]

tkl keyboards are superior

am i right guys

[wanton carbon]

tkl baso just cuts off the number pad on the right side

[glossy plinth]

wait wait what

[wanton carbon]

who tf would buy a 40%

[glossy plinth]

i had a full sized keyboard this entire time? wtf

thought i had a tkl

[storm osprey]

i think i have a 40% for portability

[glossy plinth]

p sure 60% is what most gamers use

[wanton carbon]

yeah

i would either get a 100% or most likely TKL

[storm osprey]

nvm i have numpad

[wanton carbon]

i would find it hard to adapt to a 60% imo

[glossy plinth]

same

[storm osprey]

70/75% is popular

[glossy plinth]

dont really like small keyboards

tried to use it for a month, neverworked out for me

[storm osprey]

for just gaming 70-75% are perfect imo

plus i play at really low sensitivity so i get more desk space for my mouse

[glossy plinth]

full sized superior cause more rgb

[wanton carbon]

i wanna get a new desk and mouse matt and im fine

[wanton carbon]

i wanna get this one from corsair

[glossy plinth]

holy shit that mouse space

[wanton carbon]

ikr

[storm osprey]

i use all of it too...

[glossy plinth]

whats your dpi at

[storm osprey]

@wanton carbon ehhh, thers better for the price

[wanton carbon]

ayyyy the VIPER MINI

[storm osprey]

800 dpi, but i use a 1440p monitor

[glossy plinth]

wtf

[molten coral]

3200 dpi

[wanton carbon]

i play 1k dpi and its perfect

[glossy plinth]

i cant be the only one using 16k

[storm osprey]

to do a 360 in a fps i have to move my mouse 20 inches

[wanton carbon]

3200 dpi :face:
are u taking the piss ?

wtf

[storm osprey]

about my distance to 360?

no...

[molten coral]

I literally move my mouse a centimeter to do a 360

[storm osprey]

thats why i have a small keyboard and large mousepad

[glossy plinth]

nyphon got alotta space

damnnnn

[wanton carbon]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01798VS4C/ref=asc_df_B01798VS4C1603918800000/?tag=enligo-21&creative=22374&creativeASIN=B01798VS4C&linkCode=df0 nyphon is that nicer price for u ?

[glossy plinth]

16 euros

[storm osprey]

well, it depends what you want from a mousepad

[wanton carbon]

nice decor and nice feeling when gaming

[storm osprey]

@molten coral can you post a google doc?

[wanton carbon]

i would pay anything from 10-30 pounds for a mouse matt

they usually last ages so why not

[molten coral]

This is how I have my setup

[storm osprey]

@wanton carbon

"master" mousepad guide

[molten coral]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0

[storm osprey]

theres a lot of new pads that are not accounted for though

yee what nacho posted

so you gotta decide if you want speed or control and then look at prices from there

mm300 is a medium control pad, but at that point there are other pads they recommend

[wanton carbon]

oh btw nice feet nyphon lol

[storm osprey]

lol thanks =]

lol @molten coral it kills me you have more vertical space than horizontal xD

[wanton carbon]

i have equal space lollll

[molten coral]

Well to be honest the mouse space I use is even smaller than that

[storm osprey]

my heart

[molten coral]

lets say 50% of the space

[storm osprey]

jesus christ

imagine if you used as much space as i did with the g502

youd be buff AF

[wanton carbon]

chip im genuinley shocked

your desk seems large

[molten coral]

Yeah?..

[storm osprey]

@wanton carbon thats my desk

[molten coral]

I hate dragging my mouse 400 feet to do a 360 turn

[storm osprey]

oh wait nvm

[molten coral]

so high dpi is good

[wanton carbon]

yeah ik , but i have seen nachos desk before

[molten coral]

[storm osprey]

im gonna assume youve seen his desk before

[wanton carbon]

yeah

i like his desk

very nice

[storm osprey]

i got the ikea special xD

[wanton carbon]

i got mine of amazon 😂

its quite good tbf

[storm osprey]

ikea special is literally like 30 bucks for a desk

[molten coral]

my desk is 200x80CM

[wanton carbon]

i still wanna build a desk

[molten coral]

and fully electrical which is super nice tbh

I use it so much

[wanton carbon]

but i might get my friends dad to build me one if i give him some bob

an electrical desk ?

[molten coral]

sit/standing desk

[wanton carbon]

ohhhh

[molten coral]

I push a button and it goes up

[wanton carbon]

woahh

[storm osprey]

shits expensive though

[molten coral]

yeah it is

[storm osprey]

cheapest i found was like 200 bucks

WITHOUT the table top

[molten coral]

200? lmao you won't get shit for that here in NL

[wanton carbon]

can we guess the price of ur desk chip

[molten coral]

[wanton carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-night-dinner-shit-on-it-gif-5876293

my desk was like 110 pounds lolll

jeez

[storm osprey]

ffs

600 bucks

[molten coral]

700 bucks

[wanton carbon]

nyphon gets triggered more and more

[storm osprey]

USA USA

[molten coral]

USA is cheap

[storm osprey]

just dont get injured

[molten coral]

Isn't it true that in some states you don't pay sales tax?

[storm osprey]

yes

[molten coral]

oh man the dream

[storm osprey]

oregon doesnt have sale tax

(where i plan to move)

usually offset by property tax

[molten coral]

So what if you order it from a business in oregon but you live somewhere with sales tax

[storm osprey]

youre supposed to be taxed by your residency iirc

[molten coral]

ah

[storm osprey]

newegg used to not charge taxes, but then states found out and would mail the consumer a tax collection

(i used to buy all my expensive shit through newegg)

[molten coral]

Also when you go shopping there is no tax on the prices right?

[storm osprey]

nopes

taxes even change by city

[molten coral]

Seems pretty annoying

but I guess if you used to it it's fine

[storm osprey]

yea, sales taxe is usually around 10% so its easy to calculate

[topaz sundial]

Hey i get charged twice for GPUs, how's that for sale tax

[lime ferry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Junda/saved/#view=jZv78d

[wanton carbon]

this is so dumb , why do no places do decent corner desks

[lime ferry]

I just updated my whole PC list. thats the rig.

[wanton carbon]

HOLY SHITT

[molten coral]

nice cooler

[storm osprey]

oh man... thats...

[molten coral]

This is mine: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RY6FWb

[topaz sundial]

That's a wicked battleship

[storm osprey]

my heart

my price to performance heart

[topaz sundial]

That price is considered cheap here in Israel too

[lime ferry]

thats what im saying.

its a god rig right??

It's perfect.

[molten coral]

my price to performance heart
@storm osprey lul

[lime ferry]

However, the 3080....

its not in stock anywhere.

[eager aurora]

You don’t stream or upload content or edit right? @molten coral

[molten coral]

No

[eager aurora]

I figured with only 16gbs of ram

[storm osprey]

idk, when i see those builds i think you could have spend like 1k less and get roughly the same performance

[molten coral]

I've 32GB

[lime ferry]

people are trying to flip the script with scamming so many people who truly want the gfx card

[wanton carbon]

tbf , nacho the trident Z ram is AMAZING

[lime ferry]

@topaz sundial thank you man!

[wanton carbon]

400 pound for ram wtf

[storm osprey]

@lime ferry please tell me this is also a workstation?

[eager aurora]

Oh I thought it was stacked

Too much SSD drives for me

[molten coral]

I mean I bought it when there was almost no stock for RAM so prices were pretty much doubled

[topaz sundial]

Those evo ssds are everywhere

[wanton carbon]

wait u have 3 TB of ssd storage ?

[topaz sundial]

Are they that good and lasting?

[lime ferry]

@storm osprey could be!

[eager aurora]

He has 5

[storm osprey]

evo ssd are the g502 os mice

[lime ferry]

I have intentions on making videos and gaming/streaming etc

[eager aurora]

6 I miss counted

[wanton carbon]

the samsung ssd's are the main ssd i think

[lime ferry]

I believe with a PC like that, anything is possible

[storm osprey]

ehhhh

[molten coral]

tbh the HDD isn't even in my PC

[eager aurora]

5 backup SSDs and a Main

[storm osprey]

if youre after performance you can get better for cheaper

[eager aurora]

I see that I ran 1 TB of SSD and 4 TB of HDD

[storm osprey]

a lot cheaper

[molten coral]

I only have SSD's and NVME in my PC

[eager aurora]

His gaming rig is a monster not something you should compare yours too

[lime ferry]

@storm osprey true true, I believe it, I am comfortable with this set up

[storm osprey]

its your money and ill leave it at that, but if you want to trim down on spending and generally keep the same performance im open to help

[lime ferry]

I'm waiting for reference when Black friday and prices come out so I can buy things super cheap!

[molten coral]

That setup is pretty sweet Junda

[lime ferry]

@molten coral thank you man!

I've never built my own PC so it'll be pretty epic

Also, anyone have liquid coolers..

[eager aurora]

I wouldn’t run the 3080 or cooler imo

[lime ferry]

I've never used one

[molten coral]

AIO's are really easy to use

[topaz sundial]

The only ssd ive got right now is one of those cheap sandisks

[molten coral]

You will be fine

[eager aurora]

NZXT has much better cooling systems for a better price plus the white is gonna stand out in that black rig

[storm osprey]

i have a liquid cooler

[lime ferry]

okay just kinda worried if I got anything wet

that would be

[topaz sundial]

And its been going for a good bit now

[eager aurora]

I also have a water cooler coming

[lime ferry]

sweeeet

[wanton carbon]

i could never use a normal cooler , i would always have to go with a AIO

[molten coral]

big oof but I wouldn't really be worried about that

[storm osprey]

NZXT has much better cooling systems for a better price plus the white is gonna stand out in that black rig
@eager aurora arctic liquid freezer ii is probably the best bang for buck AIO r ight now

commonly around 100 bucks for a 240 rad

[lime ferry]

NZXT i heard are good however, I am looking something I made you know? not exactly pre built

[storm osprey]

thermals and acoustics similar to noctuas dual fan air coolers

[wanton carbon]

i have a 120mm cooler but i have 2 fans on it

[eager aurora]

NZXT coolers can be bought alone

[wanton carbon]

nacho ur case is so cool

i like the lian li cases

[molten coral]

I kinda want something else

[molten coral]

Like everyone has this case

[storm osprey]

arctic liquid freezer ii is boss

[eager aurora]

RGB 🤮

[wanton carbon]

i like these cases too

but u would need some sort of LARGE desk

nacho what temps do you get when idle for that gpu

[eager aurora]

I can’t stand RGB got myself an RGBless rig

[wanton carbon]

WHAT

howw

[molten coral]

nacho what temps do you get when idle for that gpu
@wanton carbon dunno never checked tbh

[wanton carbon]

then again ig u would never need to worry

[lime ferry]

oooof pretty hot

[wanton carbon]

does anyone know what cpu u would need to stream games like fortnite and R6

[chrome skiff]

you might wanna ask nymph everytime i recommend a 3700x for silicon/core count im wrong so...

[chrome skiff]

also they are on sale at micro center too

[storm osprey]

For streaming 3700x is a good choice with the added core count.

Now for just purely gaming it’s a joke of a recommendation.

[opaque saddle]

Also, If you use OBS make sure you do have a “extra” 960/1050 performance for decoding from the main card you are using

It’s really difficult to tell how high the requirement will be. But usually people use a good cpu (6-8 cores) and PCIE card for decoding

Based on in game settings and games it will be relatively different

[chrome skiff]

even though they add clock speeds and silicon improvement the 70 dollar isnt worth the 33% increase in core count or 5% ish on single core. Not to mention with ray tracing becoming more readily available ea even recommends the 8 core 2700 over its own 6 core for dxr but you know nothing big.

[storm osprey]

Because so many people use ray tracing.

[chrome skiff]

he asked for a 3070.

[storm osprey]

Because by default that means they want to use ray tracing on the 20 games that support it.

[chrome skiff]

doesnt mean they dont?

have it and not need it then need it and not have it

[storm osprey]

Well I didn’t make that assumption either way did I?

[glossy plinth]

its diabetus_elitus

[storm osprey]

You’re recommending products based on an assumption. That’s logical.

[chrome skiff]

You did, you said i was stupid for recommending an 8 core. because his gaming experience wouldnt differ

[opaque saddle]

You forgot one thing. The majority of the game supported lower or equal to 6 cores. The 8 cores with 2 spare cores helps to,

1. Make your game become more stable with background tasks running
2. Reduce FPS loss due to background tasks

However if the extra 2 cores is for streaming, then it will be another story

[chrome skiff]

derek bfv recommend dxr specs are the amd 2700. even though the non x 2700 and 2600 score very very similar in gaming

[storm osprey]

Recommended 8 core for purely gaming, ray tracing or not, is dumb.

[chrome skiff]

Ea must be dumb

[opaque saddle]

Read what I said

[chrome skiff]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-5/buy/pc-system-requirements

if you read the dxr section it says 2700 for dxr. Again rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it

[storm osprey]

Bfv recommends 2600...

Oh you’re making assumptions again

Please refer to previous comments about making assumptions.

[chrome skiff]

i mean bfv recommends a 1300x for non dxr gaming so yes recommended non min specs would be the 8 core

i didnt recommend him minimum dxr specs

oh here is the minimum requirements for you 3070. Gotcha

[storm osprey]

No you assumed he was going to use ray tracing because he wants a 3070 and recommended a 3700 based on that

[chrome skiff]

no i recommended a 3600 on that. I said if you can swing for a 3700 it wouldnt be a bad choice either

then you said i was stupid for recommending that

[storm osprey]

Are you now referring to the first time or now?

You don’t seem to stick to one scenario and expect people to know what you’re talking about.

Goal post changing is a good phrase

[chrome skiff]

But you do because i was mocking you. The specs were there and the assumption of buying an rtx and never using rtx is kinda silly

[storm osprey]

I’ve also asked additional build a pc discord and none of them recommend a 3700x for just gaming.

[chrome skiff]

I dont hardcore game on it but for campaign i love it

[opaque saddle]

Can you guys leave it for DM please

[chrome skiff]

I can drop it here.

[storm osprey]

If dude brings me up I’m going to reply. It’s simple. I don’t think about him when he’s not here.

[chrome skiff]

Well i have people dming me about it so i kinda get to think about you a lot but you know

but regardless yes i can leave it here

[storm osprey]

Cool story dude. Waste other people’s money elsewhere.

[chrome skiff]

Again i can leave it alone.

[prime jasper]

Can anyone help me , my pc got shutdowned auto and then very time i start my pc it takes too much time to boot and go to this blue screen, i tried putting windowa again and it took like 4 hrs and i restarted it and it goes to the same blue screen

When i go to the boot menu, it dosent show my Hard drive , is my hard drive busted?

cannot go to a store because of qurantine and lock down

[chrome skiff]

Any chance you got what the blue screen said code wise? Or what caused it? If it took 4 hours to download and after you did download it i guess it could be the drive. That bsod code would be better insight though

[prime jasper]

Oh i forogoto to take a picture

If the hard drive dosent show in my boot menu its busted? Ive got my pc like 3 months ago😁

[chrome skiff]

Sorry small stroke, if it took you 4 hours to download windows and you still have the issues that sounds like a bad drive from the length of time. But the bsod would be the go to

boot menu like in bios?

[prime jasper]

Yes

Didnt download, ive had in my pen drive

[chrome skiff]

Well you said the install took 4 hours right?

[prime jasper]

Yes, i mean to install windows it dosent take much time

[chrome skiff]

Well regardless try to get the code off the bsod

or if you have another drive laying around you can try that just to see if it works.

[prime jasper]

I dont have another hard, ah its gonna take months to open shops in here

[chrome skiff]

I mean if you get into bios and the pc seems to be running fine other wise take a deep breath and see what that bsod says. It might be something simple or it might be a dead drive. That code would help so you atleast know what its realted to

related to*

[sand cove]

Technology

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-scary-technology-old-people-oh-no-gif-12751578

[lunar maple]

You guys saw the new Radeon GPUs

I think Nvidia is out

[chrome skiff]

Id say wait for some benchmarks with gpu technology and ti/supers you never know how nvidia might counter. I do think the line up looks amazing im glad amd was able to do more this generation

[lime ferry]

Big Navi!!!

[opaque saddle]

I guess time for a new phone. Can barely type in the chat coz it runs hot and slow

[chrome skiff]

budget phones really are going a long way for Android, Apple, and Google

I just bought a iPhone xr for a kiddo I look after and im pretty surprised at everything it does besides just being a phone

it upscale youtube videos has good speakers hot spot capabilities

[storm osprey]

You guys saw the new Radeon GPUs
@lunar maple outside of 6900xt beating a non gaming 3090 its pretty good, but not game changing like people are hyping it up to be

6800 beats 3070 by roughly 15%, costs roughly 15%, has more vram so better suited for 4k

6800xt will likely match 3080 for slightly cheaper and with more vram

[lunar maple]

AMD is doing a nice job well it's just my point of view

[opaque saddle]

My iPhone 6 has served for 6 years. It cost 102USD per year

[storm osprey]

oh yea its great they are seemingly going to match price to performance with lower wattage, but its not an "nvidia is out" ordeal

[lunar maple]

I still have my Galaxy S7 Edge since 2017

[opaque saddle]

Glad to see AMD is trying their best to lower the price and increase market competitions

[storm osprey]

5000 series was good vs 2000 series, sparked super releases to counter

and hardly anyone bought amd cards

and the few that did had stability problem =\

(i bought and returned a 5700 myself)

Glad to see AMD is trying their best to lower the price and increase market competitions
@opaque saddle thats really what happened, they made these segments competitive

they by no means even "beat" nvidia

hell we dont even have independent reviews

[opaque saddle]

More competitions are always good for customers

[storm osprey]

of course

[opaque saddle]

I reckon it will be a bunch of reviews comparing both AMD and NVIDIA when all the new cards are out and available to purchase

Current it isn’t

[storm osprey]

i guess im just tired of people trying to sensationalize this scenario

[orchid mortar]

Umm, I got back into the game but I seem to have Raytrace Reflection Quality on High but I want to turn it off. Is there any way to turn it off or to have the option to turn it off completely. I really don't want it on because I have a 1070ti and I am not trying to kill my PC with it on

The option to change it is greyed out for me

[opaque saddle]

I don’t think you will be able to use it

Maybe customise your setting will be the way to go if you want more, stable FPS

[orchid mortar]

I want to but it sucks that when I want to customise it, its still stays on high and I want to change it

and then I get this rainbow reflection

[opaque saddle]

Because your GPU doesn’t have ray tracing cores. I don’t think you can enable Ray Tracing by default

[orchid mortar]

I can take a screenshot and show you what i mean

[opaque saddle]

Just letting you know people with regular roles can upload pictures

Ok, I don’t think you got ray Tracing on

[orchid mortar]

then what with the rainbow effects that I see on the reflections, is there a way I can change that or anything?

Other games I play runs fine so I don't thikn its my gpu messing up or something

[opaque saddle]

Is it possible to take a pic of it? Not sure if your GPU is working normal or abnormal

[orchid mortar]

pic of my gpu?

[opaque saddle]

Nah screenshot

[lofty light]

Pic of the rainbows in game

[orchid mortar]

I did

[opaque saddle]

I think your GPU is working abnormal

Try to reinstall your driver

[orchid mortar]

hmm

I might do that

and will see

Reinstalling it now

and will run the game again

[opaque saddle]

Otherwise change your settings back to default. If not you might have to ask for repair

[orchid mortar]

Its just weird

High or above and I get the rainbow effect

Medium and Low and it looks fine

I don't mind it much but I would like to atleast turn it off or something I guess

[opaque saddle]

Right cool. I don’t think my GPU does that on high. But I guess possibly to do with your GPU or you pushed it toward or exceed the limit

[orchid mortar]

But its a 1070ti though

I can tell you it never did that before when I last played and I had it on high/ultra

[chrome skiff]

you dont happen to have hdr on do you? I had a 1060 that had some weird issues just thought id toss up hdr issues

[orchid mortar]

No I do not

I don't have it on since I don't have a monitor that supports it

Made sure as well

[chrome skiff]

ok just wondering mine was on auto and when i turned it off it fixed my issue so thought id ask

[orchid mortar]

Thanks for the suggestion

[urban ivy]

Turned of my electricity now my computer stopped working I gotta get this thing fixed

[opaque saddle]

@lofty light do you know if a lidar sensor can be utilised and build digital 3D model from an iPhone camera then export it as a 3D model? (I know you can do it for CAD)

[supple bane]

Still haven't heard anything about my powersupply, I left it at the DPD drop of point two days ago now and I haven't had any confirmation that it was picked up

[wanton carbon]

is intel or ryzen cpus better for streaming ?

[supple bane]

I'd probably say ryzen

As ryzen almost always has more cores

[wanton carbon]

is it 8 cores u need to stream and game at the same time ?

[molten coral]

200 cores

[wanton carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-night-dinner-shit-on-it-gif-5876293

[molten coral]

I’ve no clue

[wanton carbon]

my cpu only has 6 cores i think

[manic solar]

thats decent

and yes, ryzen is better

[supple bane]

6c 12t minimum and 8c16t recommended imo

For streaming

[manic solar]

i recommend the ryzen 7 3800x

slightly more expensive than the 3700x, but slight increase in performance

[opaque saddle]

I doubt that. it doesnt worth paying extra 70 bucks for 4% performance increase

[supple bane]

Not even 4%

Its basically the same

[opaque saddle]

well fps is the same

but score 4% better than 3700x in benchmark and other stuff

[supple bane]

Ah, yeah sounds about right

[manic solar]

I doubt that. it doesnt worth paying extra 70 bucks for 4% performance increase
@opaque saddlelmao what

its like 10 dollars more expensive

[opaque saddle]

the original msrp was 399 for 3800x and 329 for 3700x

[manic solar]

guess it depends on where you live

[chrome skiff]

maybe where you live but on average even on sale its 30 dollars more here in the us

[manic solar]

yeah'

[opaque saddle]

i would just over clock it and get 4% performance increase

[manic solar]

nah overclocking is bad

then you'd need better cooling and a better psu

[chrome skiff]

no the stock coolers are fine for a small oc it doesn't need to be 50c all day it can stretch its legs

[manic solar]

and you'll fuck up the motherboard

[opaque saddle]

i dont think it will heat up that much with only 4% performance increase

[lilac delta]

Is this normal (ips screen)?

[opaque saddle]

i think we have replied you earlier on

[chrome skiff]

my 3700x is at 4.4 all core on the stock cooler thats 95 amps I think with no vdrop llc at 1.325 volts on a stock cooler doesn't go over 77c on bfv and stuff like that. vrms are fine at 50c and there is no heat soak. 3700x are pretty good champs

[lilac delta]

Yeah this one is another monitor (replacement product)

[chrome skiff]

obviously overclocking is something you should know and do some research on

[turbid verge]

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1321819833613373441?s=20

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz)

ASUS ROG STRIX LC RX 6800 XT

Twitter

kingpin level GPU

[opaque saddle]

is it possible to switch off the light and take a pic from the middle?

[turbid verge]

I kinda wanna see the score of that badboi

[molten coral]

@lilac delta backlight bleeding will always be there if you really don't want backlight bleeding you gonna have to pay for OLED

[opaque saddle]

coz it is quite normal for ips panel to have this kind of issues

[turbid verge]

backlight bleeding is normal on most IPS, but its nothing serious

but yeh OLED doesnt have that

[storm osprey]

sadly the smallest oled is 48 inches?

(obviously outside of phones)

[glossy plinth]

i have done it bois

109 celcius 5700xt

[storm osprey]

oh no

wtf

[glossy plinth]

not junction temperature

but current temperature

poggers

[storm osprey]

fans turned off?

[glossy plinth]

^

tryna see if i can go for a 120

[latent light]

EKWB unveils new AMD themed waterblocks, rad and fans

[lunar maple]

Which Xeons are better X5690 or E5 2689

[supple bane]

neither

both are terrible cpu's to buy if you are thinking of doing itt

very expensive for very little performance

[opaque saddle]

the answer is E5-2689 v4

but i would be surprised to hear people using xeon for general use

[storm osprey]

noise normalized cpu cooler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTHs3FskjNQ&ab_channel=UFDTech

i hope nvidia responds xD

[opaque saddle]

@storm osprey @supple bane Intel (China) has partnered with Colgate (China) for lucky draw (assuming for an 11.11 event, like Blackfriday-Cybermonday sales) in china.

[supple bane]

Colgate? Dont they make tooth paste ?

[storm osprey]

intel partnered with toothpaste for what?

[opaque saddle]

because intel has been teased as a toothpaste factory

[storm osprey]

wtf

[opaque saddle]

source: Intel Tmall Store

[supple bane]

Wat

[opaque saddle]

it says "The 11th gen Intel "CORE" Processor"

[supple bane]

I need some cpu toothpaste

+57 fps

[opaque saddle]

so the text at the middle says

"Crush the toothpaste"
"Performance Rupture"

(i guess it means good performance)

[storm osprey]

uhhh wtf

[opaque saddle]

and yes this is real

so there are two ecommerce sites called "TaoBao" and "Tmall" (Both under the same company, just like our amazon or ebay)
so the offical intel store (from intel) hosted an event

[fallen harbor]

```the offical intel store (from intel)````
thnx for specifying i was confused for a second

[opaque saddle]

well coz we all know about it just to add a bit more descriptions into it

not everyone can understand chinese since this is an english channel. Add a bit of translation helps.
like i wouldn't know what it means at the first place, but thanks to google translate it help

[glossy plinth]

wait

were they comparing the 3080 and the 6900 or the 6900xt

[storm osprey]

3080 competes with 6800xt

6900xt "competes" with 3090

[glossy plinth]

but

wont 3090 ti demolish 6900xt

[storm osprey]

i dont think there will be a 3090 ti

3090 isnt a gamer card, its for production

thats why the 6900xt competiting against a 3090 is a joke

if anything nvidia will put out a 3080ti that competes with 6900xt

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey you know how to clear ram cache?

[storm osprey]

turn it off and turn it back on again

outside of manually shutting down programs or installing software that is a one click solution idk anything about clearing ram cache

[glossy plinth]

i got 8.1gb cache

yikes

[storm osprey]

i dont even monitor my pc anymore

i should though, i just havent ever had problems so i assume everything is fine

[glossy plinth]

im deleting like

7,000 items in my trash bin

[storm osprey]

lol damn

i do a clean install of windows every 1-2 years

[glossy plinth]

why?

[storm osprey]

helps me keep my drives uncluttered

theres a bunch of shit you realize you dont need and was wasting space

[glossy plinth]

i got a few folders i dont really need but im still gonna keep em

[storm osprey]

sure, put those on an external drive and always have them

[glossy plinth]

i still need to buy another external hdd

[storm osprey]

but random software you downloaded to use once, 10 games you dont play anymore, various programs etc

[glossy plinth]

running outta storage

[storm osprey]

i think most gamers can get away with 1.5-2tb of storage, they just dont clean their drives

[glossy plinth]

i have a 2tb storage rn

only got 500 left

[storm osprey]

bet if you did a clean install and started over it would take a while for you to get back to that much stuff

[glossy plinth]

and somehow my ssd keeps having lower and lower storage everyday even tho im not installing anything on it

[storm osprey]

granted i have decent download speeds and dont get close to my download cap

[glossy plinth]

i need me a 10tb hdd

fr

[storm osprey]

so for my to reformat drives doesnt matter

lol why?

thats like... security levels of storage

[glossy plinth]

so i dont gotta be like

"aw shit, running outta storage again"

[molten coral]

[storm osprey]

ehh

just reformat

heres chip with his "i have 10tb of storage"

[molten coral]

no

[glossy plinth]

chip you got 10tb?

damnnnnn

[molten coral]

who the fuck needs 10TB lol

[storm osprey]

apparently water

[molten coral]

I've 4 and only because I could get the SSD's for cheap

[glossy plinth]

the gmes i download need alotta space

[molten coral]

I don't even use a HDD anymore

shit makes noise and is slow

[storm osprey]

isnt there like 10 common games that are over 100gb?

[glossy plinth]

isnt fastest one rn

nvme

[molten coral]

Yeah NVME is faster than a SSD

But if you don't transfer files a lot that speed is super unnecessary

[storm osprey]

pcie drives are fastest

[molten coral]

oh really?

for some reason I thought NVME was the fastest

[glossy plinth]

[storm osprey]

iirc when pcie 4.0 came out gigabyte put out a pcie drive that was deemed the fastest ssd

though i think nvme is a form of tech that is used in pcie form factor ssds..

idk shits all confusing really

[glossy plinth]

hey nypohn

is deleting ram cache bad?

[storm osprey]

when i hear nvme i think m.2 drives

@glossy plinth 🤷, ive never done it

i also reset my computer every 2-4 hours

[glossy plinth]

2-4? HOURS?

alright

[molten coral]

37h

[glossy plinth]

kekw

[coarse nimbus]

delete ram tbh

[storm osprey]

yea its rare i dont reset my computer after more than 6 hours of gaming

[glossy plinth]

"Cache is useful to help your computer run smoothly. If you clear it all the time the disk drive will run to fill it. Running an SDD all the time will shorten its life span a HDD can do it but id recommend against if its not rated for it." -MaxillianMus

[coarse nimbus]

and m.2 drives plugged into a pcie slot using one of those multi m.2 end cards

[storm osprey]

yea but i wonder if theres something that restricts those from being x as fast

like sata ssds restriction is the cables and ports

[molten coral]

I really need to re-install windows sometime

I've just so much shit on my PC

[coarse nimbus]

why dont you use a toilet?

[molten coral]

[storm osprey]

so pcie plug in cards still use nvme drives

errr nvme protocol?

[coarse nimbus]

sata is the slowest speed, and i thought the pcie lane was faster than an m.2 slot on the board

[storm osprey]

yea pcie is faster than m.2, well pcie 4.0

[glossy plinth]

1. nvme
2. sata
3. ssd
4. hdd

[storm osprey]

1. pcie

2. m.2
   3.sata
3. hdd

(technically hdd is sata too)

[glossy plinth]

sata is faster than m.2

ayo whats this shit im seeing at LTT's twitter

Intel Rocket Lake

8cores 14nm 20pci-e lanes

[storm osprey]

sata isnt faster than m.2

[glossy plinth]

it is

[storm osprey]

sata is limited to 600mbps iirc

[coarse nimbus]

you know 2.5" ssd that are connected through a SATA cable to the mother board?

those are slower than m.2

[glossy plinth]

i will not be tricked but such a weak spell called inspect element

[coarse nimbus]

someone bring out the mute again

[storm osprey]

lol

[chrome skiff]

@glossy plinth deleting ram cache as in your stand by memory? no windows promotes a rammap for clearing system memory and or standy by. Tons of games fill up stand by. Google rammap and you will find something about it

[orchid mortar]

@chrome skiff @opaque saddle I just fixed the game. I don't get that rainbow effect anymore. I just simply uninstalled and reinstalled the game. I assume a file was corrupted and maybe a simple reinstall of the game would work and it does. I would want to repair it first but I am using EA Desktop but I didn't mind the reinstall at all since my internet speed is really fast.

[chrome skiff]

glad to hear your fixed it i was gonna offer a reinstall since you did drivers and repaired. its always something silly

[orchid mortar]

I can run the game in any setting without getting the rainbow effect

Yeah but its all good

[opaque saddle]

good

[orchid mortar]

Its always the super simple things to fix it

Thanks again for last night though. I would have just left it alone and thought maybe it was my gpu being weird but its all good now

[chrome skiff]

Yeah if temps arent an issue and you arent ocing vram that seemed a little odd, glad it was just the reinstall

[opaque saddle]

Usually if you “repaired” the game it wouldn’t be a huge issue

That should save you a fair bit of time

[orchid mortar]

Yeah my gpu runs fine when it comes to playing games. I usually get like 60-70c when I play demanding games at high/ultra settings

[chrome skiff]

Yeah like i said thats wasnt the issue lol

[orchid mortar]

Yeah but I just thought a reinstall would be fine, like I said I had fast internet so it wasn't that much time wasted. I will do that though if I get an issue like that again

[opaque saddle]

Cool

[orchid mortar]

Thanks again though, I really appreciate the help

[opaque saddle]

No worries mate, happy to help

[storm osprey]

dont forget smash that like button and subscribe

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey nyphon

what r some good gaming laptop brands

alienware is amazing but damn

1500 for a i7 10th and a 5500xm

need some better ones

[turbid verge]

oof laptop AMD gpu isnt that good

[storm osprey]

i dont really follow laptops, last i heard though amd cpu laptops were waaaaaay better though

[turbid verge]

I did check laptops because I recently bought one for uni

and checked on MAD GPU's and they are a total nono

Nvidia, although consider the ryzen 4000 cpu's from amd

[lime raft]

i just spilled beer over my keyboard

and then plugged out, cleaned off and then plug in and death

[glossy plinth]

[primal pier]

Tried rice

[lime raft]

its beer and came out the back to

prob screwd when i lifted the back

was a razer blackwidow chroma x

[glossy plinth]

razer?

my man get a corsair keyboard

[lime raft]

i now use a older blackwidow

and the switch is a blue one

and its not even razer

its one from cherry

[storm osprey]

dont get any gaming keyboard

you are paying for software, rgb, ads and sponsorships

[wanton carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-side-eye-confused-gif-8776030

i like my keyboard

[storm osprey]

you can like it

its just theres better quality boards out there for cheaper prices because of reasons above

[wanton carbon]

my keyboard is good quality imo

[primal pier]

Indeed buy the keyboard that one likes

Like a spongbob keyboard

[storm osprey]

ehhhhhh

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[wanton carbon]

EHHHH ?

[storm osprey]

most gameing keyboards have laser etched keycaps

plastic cases with maybe metal plates on top

[lofty light]

I got my keyboard with my GPU

[primal pier]

Or a Garfield keyboard

[wanton carbon]

my keyboard frame is metal

[storm osprey]

doubleshot> laser etched

metal > plastic

[lofty light]

An NVIDIA branded green glow thermaltake keyboard

[storm osprey]

i can almost guarantee that keyboards case isnt 100% metal

[primal pier]

Aluminum

[wanton carbon]

its not 100% as there is a bit that is plastic that covers the logo

[storm osprey]

what keyboard do you have?

i dont even know if the modern huntsman are metal boards

then you got pcb and switch quality

[wanton carbon]

thats annoying me with that little piece of dust

what keyboard do you have?
blackwidow

[storm osprey]

theres so many versions of black widow though

[wanton carbon]

elite

that one @storm osprey

[storm osprey]

yea that has abs keycaps

[wanton carbon]

tf is ABS

[storm osprey]

the cheapest keycap construction

[wanton carbon]

ohh

[glossy plinth]

only buy corsair keyboards

[storm osprey]

which likely means they are laser etched

[glossy plinth]

anything else and youre just trolling

[storm osprey]

pop off a keycap and take a picture of the underside

[wanton carbon]

ok

[storm osprey]

yea thats laser etched

the cheapest way to add legends to a keycap

[wanton carbon]

oh

[storm osprey]

it can flake apart, it shines quickly too

[wanton carbon]

is it a bad thing ?

[storm osprey]

relative to a doubleshot keycap yea

see how the inside of my keycap is white

but the outside is black?

[wanton carbon]

yeah

[storm osprey]

thats because my legends are white

[wanton carbon]

yeah

[storm osprey]

so my keycap cant flake, the legend wont fade

(laser etched it used for rgb so it shines through, the other way to get legends on top is by printing, which is where it will fade)

[wanton carbon]

yeah

[storm osprey]

does it matter? not really

especially depends who you ask

but its a fact that doubleshot keycaps are better quality than laser etched keycaps

[wanton carbon]

I like the keyboard tho tbf

[storm osprey]

you can like it, thats fine

[wanton carbon]

it’s nice and heavy so it don’t move around on my desk

[storm osprey]

i like hershey chocolate

[wanton carbon]

and I like the wrist wrest

[storm osprey]

but theres better quality chocolate out there

[wanton carbon]

Hershey’s is nice tho

[storm osprey]

but theres still better

but normally better chocolate costs more

in this case, a gaming keyboard you are also spending money on ads and sponsorships