technology

[supple bane]

So many people have it because it's a nice mouse, not because it's a meme

[storm osprey]

outside of low tier gaming sites like ign no one who takes mice serious is recommending g502 unless someone wants a jack of all trades that is also a brick

[supple bane]

Yeah no one argues it's amazing at one thing

But it's the jack of all trades thing that I like about it

[storm osprey]

i cant imagine how many people actually need that many buttons either

it just comes off as a "more is better' scenario

[supple bane]

And that's where your wrong

I use all of those buttons and I use all profiles

[storm osprey]

your anecdotal evidence doesnt mean anything

and i only use 3 buttons, id put money down saying a vast majority of people are using closer to 3 buttons than, the what, 13 on g502?

[supple bane]

8

[wanton carbon]

i cant imagine how many people actually need that many buttons either
how many buttosn does it even have ?

[supple bane]

And again, I use all of them

[supple bane]

Wa

I'm lost

[storm osprey]

probably including left and right tilt on scroll

[supple bane]

Ahh, no I wasnt counting left, middle and right click

Since I wouldnt consider them extra

[storm osprey]

damn not even using your mouse to its fullest meme potential

[supple bane]

No I do use all of it

[storm osprey]

wheel tilt is definitely extra though

outside of g502 and a couple of other logitech mice idk many tilt wheels out there

[supple bane]

Sniper button is ptt for discord, 2 side buttons are gadget one and two, index finger side buttons are coma rose and requisition point menus, middle click Is heal, scroll wheel tilt is lean left and right, and finally the rear middle click is toggle sprint

For bfv

[storm osprey]

ew you have ptt on your mouse?!

[supple bane]

Where else would it be?

[storm osprey]

anywhere else so adjusting/pushing buttons while you should be aiming doesnt alter your aim

[supple bane]

Yeee, that's annoying, I cant talk whilst shooting

[storm osprey]

the only buttons i have set to my mouse are things that i wont be aiming while im pressing them

like melee

[supple bane]

That's not how I see it

Anything that I use a lot i put on my mouse

Because they are the easiest buttons to get at

[storm osprey]

yea but that means you have to make decisions or compromise your aim

yea sure it might only be a problem or hinder your performance a tiny bit but id rather not have to personally worry about it

[supple bane]

I still wouldnt press any of those buttons whilst shooting

[storm osprey]

well if youre not playing a comm game thats fine

but for something like OW that would limit your comms way too much

[supple bane]

There are no situations where you would need to do any of the things I have on my mouse whilst shooting

[storm osprey]

talk and shoot is pretty common for a lot of games

and thats the point i was saying, i only bind things to mouse that i dont have to make decisions on or alter my aim for

[supple bane]

Oh talk yeah, but the most comm heavy shooter I play atm is warzone

And a.) That's not thattttt comm heavy, and b.) I rarely play it

[wanton carbon]

Oh talk yeah, but the most comm heavy shooter I play atm is warzone
do you think the graphics are bad for that game ? they look badddd for me

[storm osprey]

ahh yea ive been on teams for csgo, ow, other randoms games

we had mics open though, dont have to worry about pressing anything to talk

im old, i gotta have every advantage i can vs these zoomers that have 150ms reaction times

[supple bane]

Yeah try use open mic with outemu blues on a keyboard with a metal back plate

[storm osprey]

well thats your own fault

[supple bane]

With a very sensitive condenser mic

[storm osprey]

i got silent switches and an omnidirectional modmic

though if i have my volume too loud on my headphones the sound can get loud since i have open backs

[supple bane]

im old, i gotta have every advantage i can vs these zoomers that have 150ms reaction times
My reaction times are terrible, last time I did a test it was like 320ms

Still able to demolish people in bf tho

[storm osprey]

wtf

my reaction time is usually sub 200ms

[supple bane]

Yanno what, I'll do a test and see what I get

[storm osprey]

well on my laptop im getting 216 average

though that makese sense since my desktop is faster and 144hz

[supple bane]

yeah that 320ms was on my phone

welp

my phone seems pretty accurate

ok, i tried a different test and im averaging around 170

maybe my reaction times arent that bad after all

[storm osprey]

thats on my desktop

yea phone reaction time is shit

i think i was in the 300's too

[supple bane]

heh

would ya look at that

on par with sir. nyphon

[wanton carbon]

can i try loll

i havent played shooters in a while

[storm osprey]

get off my reaction time

[supple bane]

nyphon

try this one

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/hearing

its a bit random. but in theory i should be able to hear it earlier than you. even with my crappy headphones

[storm osprey]

its hard to tell if you hear something or not

should be binary

[supple bane]

well i start to hear it around 19,000hz

anything past 18,500 is really audible and hurts

[storm osprey]

17500 is when it starts to hurt for me

[supple bane]

S C I E N C E

[wanton carbon]

go to 10Hz

[storm osprey]

no

[glossy plinth]

Granty!

[supple bane]

Wat

[molten coral]

Granty!

[storm osprey]

Granty!

[latent light]

Everybody talks rumors/leaks about high-end GPUs but never about the low-end so I'll share what I've heard:
Navi 23 - 32 Compute Units with 8GB GDDR6 memory and TDP of ~120 watts, significantly faster than the RX 5700XT and Radeon VII
Navi 24 - 24 Compute Units with 6GB GDDR6 memory and TDP of ~75 watts (no cable requirement) that performs very closely to the RX 5600XT

[glossy plinth]

👀

yall

New Alienware monitor

Alienware AW2521HF

[sinful mantle]

!!Granty

[glossy plinth]

!!Granty

[storm osprey]

dont forget, buy a 3700x

[primal pier]

!!granty

[molten bramble]

^ What's with this?

[coarse nimbus]

the latest in spaz spamming?

[opaque saddle]

He won’t be spawned with the command as we all know. Ping or dm him if necessary

[molten bramble]

Don't recommend DMing him unless you're already friends or they're active in chat and agreed to/requested you do so.

[opaque saddle]

Well as I stated if necessary. Otherwise don’t

[storm osprey]

!!Lmao dutch

[silent oasis]

lmao dutch

[magic gust]

How do the Corsair Virtuoso wireless gaming headset work, do you need to download an application to use them wirelessly or with bluetooth

[storm osprey]

thats very specific

[magic gust]

I should specify, do i need to buy a pc component to let me use them wirelessly or not

because i don't think its bluetooth

Ah never mind, i got it. I had to scroll way down in the description do find it

[chrome skiff]

Thats not bad advice. The 3700x is yet again on sale at micro center for 270 with 20 dollar off a mobo. Thats like 250 for a 8 core 16 thread cpu you dont need.

Like i said the last time when i talked about it

[storm osprey]

still suggesting spending more for no gains other than core count which beyond 6c12t doesnt really amount to much

[chrome skiff]

saying there is no gains to a cpu with 33% more cores and faster clock speeds is silly.

[storm osprey]

"no gains other than core count"

[chrome skiff]

Not to meniton to recommended a 5600x at 300 dollars which is 45% increase over a 3600 for only 19% ipc increase

[storm osprey]

faster clock speeds by what? 100?

[chrome skiff]

faster is faster silicon goes up not down

[storm osprey]

and that means what? 3 more fps?

#worth

[warm vector]

tech rap battle

[storm osprey]

#notreallydontlistentothisguy

[warm vector]

go!

#s are dead dude

[chrome skiff]

he is too old let him go

[warm vector]

use another thing

[chrome skiff]

dont call him out for that he doesnt know better

[storm osprey]

this old man doesnt give ridiculous advice

[warm vector]

from the new decade

[chrome skiff]

i know 60 bucks for 33% more cores and they clock better and run cooler. I know 60 bucks is a far stretch

Especially when i said get a 3600 or a 3700x if you can swing it

but you know 60 bucks

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608318/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-matisse-36ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-prism-cooler

[storm osprey]

for some it is especially when you get maybe 5 fps out of it on average

[chrome skiff]

Actually it has higher mins in bfv

this is bfv discord so id hope youd know too

[warm vector]

is there a way to get a computer setup to run BFV under 600 dollars?

[chrome skiff]

console

jk

[storm osprey]

lol higher mins by how much?

[warm vector]

40-60 fps

[chrome skiff]

you serious? I can browse

[warm vector]

Under 600 bucks

[chrome skiff]

youtube is your friend old timer

[warm vector]

Serious budget

[chrome skiff]

i know its hard to just shit out nonense but youtube is fantastic

[storm osprey]

and bfv is one of the very few games that takes advantage of cores

[chrome skiff]

ok lemme snoop @warm vector

[storm osprey]

its ironic youre using this line now when yesterday you were literally asking for proof from me...

[chrome skiff]

you are in a bfv discord!

[storm osprey]

also

[warm vector]

and this is the tech channel

[storm osprey]

no one agreeing with you

[chrome skiff]

oh you can post screen shots?

[warm vector]

whats the CHEAPEST setup to run BFV at 40 - 60 FPS?

[chrome skiff]

hmmm

[storm osprey]

of various very VERY serious builders that dont agree with you at all

[warm vector]

what is wrong with you dudes? chill with the rivalry for a few minutes

[storm osprey]

they literally enjoy making lists of various pc components

[glossy plinth]

Doesnt most games nowadays only use 4 cores

[chrome skiff]

depends on the game

[storm osprey]

we are starting to see 6c6t be a standard

[warm vector]

how much RAM does a PS4 have?

[glossy plinth]

Oh damn 6c standard

[storm osprey]

6c6t or 4c8t is kind of minimum recommended now

[warm vector]

um

[storm osprey]

and 4c8t is only recommended on budget and something like 3300x

[glossy plinth]

Soon its aboutta be 8c16t

[storm osprey]

doubt soon

[warm vector]

isn't supposed to be like 64 GB DDR4

[glossy plinth]

I mean Demon’s Souls

kinda lookin tough to run

[storm osprey]

is that even coming to pc?

[warm vector]

HOW MUCH GB OF RAM?

[glossy plinth]

I think so

I hope

[storm osprey]

16gb of ram for gaming is golden standard

[warm vector]

16 GB must be like 50 bucks now right?

[glossy plinth]

Drpends on brand and speed

But get Corsair ram

[warm vector]

DDR4?

[glossy plinth]

looks better

[warm vector]

looks better? wtf

[storm osprey]

more like 60 bucks

[warm vector]

alien PC case be like

[storm osprey]

and corsair ram is decent

[glossy plinth]

Corsair makes some good stuff except mices

[storm osprey]

you can get better ram for cheaper

[warm vector]

I think I'll go for alienware

[glossy plinth]

Alienware makes ram?

[storm osprey]

(also corsair doesnt actually make their own ram, they just brand it)

alienware does not make ram

[warm vector]

nah full setup

[storm osprey]

there are like 5 major ram manufacturers

[warm vector]

don't they have full setup?

[glossy plinth]

Alienware tower case looks so uglyyy

[storm osprey]

hynix, samsun, and some other ones

[warm vector]

that anyone can buy on Amazon?

[storm osprey]

err micron?

[glossy plinth]

Microcenter!

[warm vector]

alien case looks so good lol

[chrome skiff]

idk if you wanna go with alienware if youre going in with a budget

just cause of the name premium on itr

[glossy plinth]

Alienware only makes good monitors and laptops

[chrome skiff]

it*

[storm osprey]

alienware is just gaming dell, just get a dell monitor

[warm vector]

I'll just search for full setups on Amazon that can run BFV

[glossy plinth]

1060 6gb

[warm vector]

Me : Uses a TV for a monitor

[glossy plinth]

huh

wont u get something like uhhh

[warm vector]

Use Curve TVs for gaming lol

[glossy plinth]

input lag

or something

[warm vector]

Curve TVs

[storm osprey]

1060 is old...

[glossy plinth]

Curvy tv

[storm osprey]

unless youre buying used you would get a 1650 super instead

[glossy plinth]

Im here chillin with a shitty tn panel

[warm vector]

RTX 2080 price is so much lol

more than my PS4

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey My friend uses 1060 and reccomends it 100% for some reason

[storm osprey]

well if you got it new or on sale sure

its still really good for 1080p

[warm vector]

ok searching full PC setups on Amazon

[storm osprey]

but if youre building now you wouldnt pick up a 1060

@warm vector build you own

[warm vector]

nah

[glossy plinth]

@warm vector remember to get 1500watt pau

[storm osprey]

youll save money and get better components for either performance or quality

no one needs a 1500w psu...

now youre giving advice life diabetus

[glossy plinth]

Im using a 1500watt psu and its worth

[storm osprey]

no its not

unless you are running 10900k OC with sli 3090s you dont need a 1500w psu

hell i wonder if youd even need 1200w for that

[glossy plinth]

idk

seemed worth to me

[glossy plinth]

@warm vector and get a rgb mousepad

[storm osprey]

1k psu for 10900k and 3090 sli...

[glossy plinth]

Felt like my ryzen and 5700xt needed more room for power

[storm osprey]

what ryzen?

[warm vector]

ok I have made a plan

[glossy plinth]

ryzen 7 3700x

Plus its a corsair psu

[storm osprey]

hell id even assume 3950x has better power draw than 10900k

[warm vector]

sell the PS4 and all its accessories(games,controllers etc)

[glossy plinth]

Corsair is

[chrome skiff]

why would you fucking buy a 3700x?

Jesus people

[storm osprey]

*for gaming

[glossy plinth]

I bought it long time ago

Tryna get me a ryzen 9 when price goes down

[storm osprey]

diabetus has turned super salty

[chrome skiff]

Water im kidding its a good cpu regardless and priced to fit

[storm osprey]

no rebuttal, just pettiness

[warm vector]

buy a new PC setup or build one in late November or December

[glossy plinth]

build one

[storm osprey]

build a pc

[glossy plinth]

its more fun

[warm vector]

buy one

[storm osprey]

not a question

build one

[warm vector]

and no RGB shit

[glossy plinth]

build one

No rgb? wtf are you on

[warm vector]

Bruh

[storm osprey]

no rgb master race

[warm vector]

I have my own RGB

[storm osprey]

oh

damn

[glossy plinth]

Yall need rgb in your setups

[warm vector]

Brings out Christmas tree lights

[chrome skiff]

I set mine to static blue :/ dunno if it counts

I have rog hero/strix and it looks good blue

[warm vector]

And some leftovers from a science experiment

[storm osprey]

id rather save money and not get rgb

i look at my monitor, not my pc

[glossy plinth]

Remember to atleast get an rgb chair

I cant find any rgb chairs for sale

[warm vector]

I have a big ass armchair

[chrome skiff]

I dont build on a budget so i wasnt worried about it. I have more then enough pc parts

[warm vector]

don't need one

[chrome skiff]

I have rgb socks too

[warm vector]

also I am more of an offline gamer

[glossy plinth]

Rgb socks? huh

[chrome skiff]

Damn straight keeps me ahead of the curve

[warm vector]

online gaming sucks because of MTX

[glossy plinth]

Online gaming rules

[warm vector]

bruh

[storm osprey]

theres not many games now that have a MTX advantage other than chinese mmorpgs..

[warm vector]

Your lucky you have CC in your hands

[glossy plinth]

Ngl ever since i updated my chipset drivers, gained like 80fps in valorant

i think thats cracked af

[chrome skiff]

Oh wait on your amd system? I can see that, earlier bios's had boost and power issues

[warm vector]

I use Razor Cortex lol

Razor is the best gaming company I have ever seen

RGB keyboards

[chrome skiff]

I mean... if you like them sure

[storm osprey]

razer only makes good mice

[warm vector]

mice?

[storm osprey]

🤮 buying anything else by them

[warm vector]

You didn't get the keyboard yet?

[storm osprey]

huntsman mini? no

[warm vector]

the first step in customization

get the Razor RGB Keyboard

[storm osprey]

a good friend built my custom keyboard for me

[warm vector]

150 dollars I think?

[chrome skiff]

I got rgb socks before a rgb keyboard

[storm osprey]

only makes sense, you suggest 3700x

[warm vector]

use your christmas tree lights

[glossy plinth]

suggest a 12c cpu

since standard now is basically 6c

[storm osprey]

you got YEARS before 12c is the recommended

id even say decades honestly

[warm vector]

fuck

Acer Aspire 5

Slim

[storm osprey]

it took 5 years for 6c to be the recommended over 4c

[chrome skiff]

I use 70% of my 3900xt in gaming and to work that out for you 50% of 12 is 6

[warm vector]

bruh

[chrome skiff]

bfv specifically but i know this isnt a bfv discord

[warm vector]

its bestselling

and looks so good

[glossy plinth]

You see how fast realistically good graphics are being made

[warm vector]

Imma get a laptop

[glossy plinth]

Maybe 4 years

[warm vector]

364 only!

[storm osprey]

we are actually at a point of diminishing returns with graphics

at least polygon account

and more stuff is being offloaded on the gpu too

[warm vector]

GET A LAPTOP

[storm osprey]

rtx for example

[warm vector]

IT SAVES A LOOOOT OF MONIES

[glossy plinth]

But you cant upgrade a laptop

I think

[storm osprey]

some you can

[glossy plinth]

only ram i think

[storm osprey]

but you pay a premium

[chrome skiff]

its the whole point raytracing was introduced, what are we gonna do once we conquer 4k? 8k? 16k? Pixels become less relevant

[glossy plinth]

One day 16k gaming is gonna be standard and minimum

like 1080p

[warm vector]

AMD Radeon Vega 3

[chrome skiff]

games with ray traced audio is what we need. i dont fucking care about lights. Audio would be huge

[glossy plinth]

Basically surround sound?

[warm vector]

Chipset brand is AMD

[chrome skiff]

Well do you know what ray tracing is? So instead of light use it for audio

[warm vector]

why don't they show the RAM in it lol

How to upgrade your RAM?

in a laptop

[glossy plinth]

I dunno sounds like surround sound to me

like 7.1

[warm vector]

stop

how to upgrade RAM in a laptop?

[chrome skiff]

I mean surround and spatial audio still have issues.

[warm vector]

dude

surround sound really?

[glossy plinth]

can we even use 7.1 surround sound in games

[warm vector]

get headphones

[glossy plinth]

Caus I feel like its only for like movies and stuff

[warm vector]

200 dollar RGB ones

[chrome skiff]

lenin look up a youutube vid. it shouldnt be hard. They are normally pretty close to the surface. As under 1 or 2 pieces of plastic and just upgrade or add in more sticks

[glossy plinth]

My headset supports 7.1

[warm vector]

whats the best gaming laptop brand?

[chrome skiff]

All of my cans do it doesnt mean the audio would be great for gaming. Thats also preference. Audio is always preference. What i hear and what you hear are two different things

[glossy plinth]

Alienware

Alienware is best laptop brand

[warm vector]

how to find alienware on amazon?

wtf

[glossy plinth]

Just buy it from their website

[chrome skiff]

you're on a pc right? you know how to use it? go to amazon and type in a aliene ware laptop and look for specs you need

alienware*

[warm vector]

my god

look at these laptops

1499 dollars

WTF?

[chrome skiff]

and?

[glossy plinth]

its worth

[chrome skiff]

My chair was 1500? What are you looking for

[warm vector]

Not a budget brand

I say

[glossy plinth]

Lmfao 1500 chair

must have rgb

[chrome skiff]

hey man the new herman miller partnered with logitech

[glossy plinth]

it gotta atleast have rgb

[chrome skiff]

this chair is fucking comfy and id buy it again

[glossy plinth]

or its not worth

[warm vector]

ok

[chrome skiff]

no no rgb 😦

but my socks are so its ok

[glossy plinth]

add some rgb strips

[warm vector]

whats the best budget gaming laptop brand?

[glossy plinth]

Uhh

Acer

[warm vector]

acer k

Only 4GB RAM with one empty slot

in the 364 dollar one

[chrome skiff]

lenin i promise if you spend some time learning specs yourself or doing some research you will get more of what you want/expect. Someone can offer you a 1500 dollar laptop that doesnt game well. Id do research first

[warm vector]

why is gaming so expensive?

[glossy plinth]

Cause gaming is beautiful

[chrome skiff]

Also if you have a good laptop cpu wise you can always get an external gpu for it. If the laptop supports the connection

[warm vector]

no it sucks

I'll get an Xbox Series X instead

[glossy plinth]

Man my little brother got a 2k alienware laptop but only uses it for roblox

[chrome skiff]

Mkay thats fine

[warm vector]

too expensive

[chrome skiff]

right? like what did you need that for

[glossy plinth]

thats how u waste 2k

[warm vector]

who would even buy something worth 1500 dollars lol

[chrome skiff]

Lots of people would

[glossy plinth]

^

[chrome skiff]

the 3090 is 1400

1499*

[warm vector]

Capitalist pigs you guys steal monies from the poor

[chrome skiff]

ofc i do its the best part of my day

[glossy plinth]

I just work

sometimes parents give me money

[chrome skiff]

Right? I work too much but i enjoy my toys

[warm vector]

12 GB RAM at 529

[glossy plinth]

since they make bank

[warm vector]

wtf

Acer really is a kind brand

[chrome skiff]

ram isnt gaming performance. I mean it kinda is but its not liek cause it has 12 gbs its gonna be the fastest

[glossy plinth]

Should pay attention to cpu and gpu

and the rgb

[chrome skiff]

^

rgb first imo

[warm vector]

rgb your mom's ass

[glossy plinth]

if you want a tip

[chrome skiff]

that.... that wasnt nice....

[glossy plinth]

rgb gives more fps

even the god of gaming pc’s LTT said so

[chrome skiff]

its like stickers on cars. I slapped a sti sticker on my Subaru and man does that puppy fly

[glossy plinth]

ooo subaru

arent those cars AWD’s

sexy

[chrome skiff]

mhm and 4 cyc with big turbos and sounds cool and decently quick

Once you go soobaru you never go back

[glossy plinth]

I want a senna but in stuck with a rav4

[chrome skiff]

lmao atleast you have something close enough

[glossy plinth]

Rav4 nowhere near a mclaren senna

[chrome skiff]

cmon its close

[glossy plinth]

senna looks better

and faster

even has a sexier name

[chrome skiff]

Its like a 4 cyl is enough to get you to and fro work right? But you dont need the 8 cyl it depends on your demands

[glossy plinth]

Looks > Performance

[chrome skiff]

same thing with pc

[glossy plinth]

Lmao

[chrome skiff]

if you arent proud of it you're wrong

[glossy plinth]

whoever said leather seats are the best for car

kinda dumb

[chrome skiff]

Man i am looking at a sho and im kinda digging the size specs and the interior it looks and feels good

[glossy plinth]

If a car has a

mini fridge inside

worth 100%

[chrome skiff]

maybach?

I like maybachs

[glossy plinth]

Oh oh i also wanna try drifting

looks so cool

[warm vector]

alright

[chrome skiff]

Dont do it, it takes your soul away without you even knowing it

[warm vector]

sold PS4 adds upto 300

[glossy plinth]

Im tryna sell my 3700x for $250

[chrome skiff]

pssst the 3700x is on sale right now new for 270 bucks

[glossy plinth]

wtf whys it so cheap now

[warm vector]

plus BF1, Crew 2, BFH, and a few other games it adds upto 370 - ish

[chrome skiff]

Cause next gen is coming out and all the b550 and x570 mobos are shooting up too

[glossy plinth]

sheet man i need a ryzen 9 quick

[chrome skiff]

lenin i wouldnt count games that high unless you actually sell them and have cash in hand

[warm vector]

if the Acer setup is at 529

[chrome skiff]

Id wait. Since you are 3rd gen now i would not upgrade in a gen

[warm vector]

529 - 370

[chrome skiff]

did you overclock your 3700x?

[glossy plinth]

No

[chrome skiff]

ram oc/tune?

[warm vector]

200 bucks! Nice

[glossy plinth]

I just enabled SMT

Didnt oc anything

only made my gpu fans ramp up higher

thats about it

[warm vector]

I only have to pay half of my PS4's price

This is a dream come true lol

[chrome skiff]

lenin shovel snow or help out at a mom and pop shop and make a couple bucks

[warm vector]

I am a doorman lol

[glossy plinth]

or babysit

[warm vector]

I could have got the 1500 setups if my dad agreed

[chrome skiff]

idk how old you are i was just going off your comments

[warm vector]

he must make a lot more than that if we are still alive

but its too risky

[chrome skiff]

water unless you need to upgrade youre missing out on a lot of what 3000 series has to offer

[warm vector]

so I'll go for the 529 one

and I may buy on Black Friday

[glossy plinth]

Im either going for a Ryzen 9 3990x or ryzen 7 5000

[warm vector]

btw

are you guys getting upgrades on Black Friday?

[glossy plinth]

Dunno

[chrome skiff]

i cant post pics but i have a 8700/9900k/10900k/ and my amd systems game pretty close besides one or 2 specific titles. I oc and tune them all. My 3700x is a 4.5 all core and keeps up with 9900k/10900k all day and runs 20c cooler

[glossy plinth]

Maybe games

Bro

[warm vector]

wait

[glossy plinth]

ryzen 9 got those cores tho

[chrome skiff]

yeah maybe games, i dont need anything until next gen 5900x comes out or 5950x

[warm vector]

can this run BFV?

Acer Aspire TC-895-UA92 Desktop, 10th Gen Intel Core i5-10400 6-Core Processor, 12GB 2666MHz DDR4, 512GB NVMe M.2 SSD, 8X DVD, 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6, USB 3.2 Type C, Windows 10 Home

[glossy plinth]

wheres the graphics card

[chrome skiff]

got an actual link?

^

[warm vector]

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-TC-895-UA92-i5-10400-Processor-802-11ax/dp/B088X2YR3X/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1603767066&refinements=p_89%3AAcer%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&rnid=1248877011&s=pc&sr=1-7

[chrome skiff]

my thoughts on the gpu

[glossy plinth]

Gpu

[warm vector]

I gave the link

[chrome skiff]

no gpu? I dont see one

[warm vector]

Can it run BFV?

[chrome skiff]

no it doesnt have a gpu

cpu wise it will be fine

[warm vector]

wait what

[glossy plinth]

wait is there no gpu?

for me its not showing any gpu

[chrome skiff]

there is no gpu from what i see

[warm vector]

wtf

[glossy plinth]

I mean could a i5 10th single handly run bfv

Gonna need some beast cooling

[chrome skiff]

without a gpu no? Paired with a gpu yes its an ok cpu

[glossy plinth]

I saw a video that a ryzen 3 3200g and run warzone well

[chrome skiff]

10th gens arent that bad. For intel atleast being 14nm+++++++.... you get the point

[glossy plinth]

lmao

no gpu

[chrome skiff]

Cause it has an igpu and has some gpu performance

[warm vector]

Intel UHD 630

can it run BFV?

[glossy plinth]

[chrome skiff]

thats the igpu of the cpu

[glossy plinth]

[chrome skiff]

that like so it can run youtube and your desktop. You know actually give you an image without a gpy

gpu*

[warm vector]

uh

wdym?

[chrome skiff]

just go on youtube and look up like toasty bros

[warm vector]

I wanted a yes or no

[chrome skiff]

Its not a dedicated gpu

no

no no no

[glossy plinth]

nono watch LTT

[warm vector]

FUCK

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

[chrome skiff]

yeah ltt shows why you need a 1200 watt psu in 2020

[warm vector]

FUCK GOD

FUCK TECHNOLOGY

[glossy plinth]

1500*

[chrome skiff]

you hurt my head

[warm vector]

FUCK GAMING

[chrome skiff]

is it 1500 in his video?

[warm vector]

FUCK BATTLEFIELD

[glossy plinth]

Nah

[chrome skiff]

i thought he legit had a 1200

oh ok yeah

[glossy plinth]

1500 cause its cool

[warm vector]

I give BFV 0 stars

[glossy plinth]

Lenin

[warm vector]

on my PS4

[glossy plinth]

just pay for a game streaming service

[warm vector]

Instead of the 4 stars I gave before

[chrome skiff]

I have a seasonic 1000 watt. I pull 770 watts under full load. But the psu is ice cold doesnt go over 44c

[warm vector]

0 stars

the game is the worst ever

[chrome skiff]

38c*

[glossy plinth]

wtf

Idk how to check temps on my psu

just mobo cpu and gpu

[chrome skiff]

Mine has a sensor cause its like a 400 dollar psu when it launched

[warm vector]

don't buy battlefield

v

it sucks

[glossy plinth]

bfv is amazing

[warm vector]

performance wise and gameplay wise

[glossy plinth]

Especially the war stories

[warm vector]

and is too expensive

so get it on a PS4

[glossy plinth]

Or play it on a game streaming sevice like geforce now

[warm vector]

uh

[chrome skiff]

id stay on console if you';re this unsure and budget limited

[warm vector]

Gaming Netflix?

[glossy plinth]

No

[warm vector]

ok I'll watch this vid called best 2020 gaming desktops in amazon

[glossy plinth]

Its kinda like netflix but with games

all you need is stable fast wifi

[chrome skiff]

well internet it doesnt need to be wifi

[glossy plinth]

ethernet then

[chrome skiff]

that works. I got beta access to that and it honestly isnt bad

When i played it atleast

[warm vector]

GTX 1080

[chrome skiff]

I have a pc so i wouldnt pay for it but still

[warm vector]

does GTX 1080 support BFV?

[chrome skiff]

Thats an old gpu but plenty for bfv

[glossy plinth]

Yes

[warm vector]

ok

good

8 GB DDR4 RAM?

[glossy plinth]

3600mhz?

[chrome skiff]

That will work for gaming yes

But i would recommend 16

[warm vector]

BFV?

[chrome skiff]

8 will let you run windows and game yes. but 16 will help a ton

[glossy plinth]

Idk about 16

I be using 8 tabs on google and ram utilization be high

[chrome skiff]

we are talking about just gaming though

[warm vector]

do you guys know Tech Radar?

[chrome skiff]

he can always buy another sstick when he has money

[glossy plinth]

no

[chrome skiff]

i think so

[glossy plinth]

ask granty for pc stuff

!!Granty

[chrome skiff]

idk him but sure

[glossy plinth]

hes in this server

@ Granty

[warm vector]

intel core i5?

any model?

do they support BFV?

[chrome skiff]

Im good the last person who started replying to me with @ came off senile

lenin i dont think i want to help you. I really think you should go spend 1 hour watch jayztwocents or something over spending hours of asking wild questions

The 10400 will run bfv

a 2nd gen i5 will run it but not well

[glossy plinth]

dont buy apple

[chrome skiff]

I have never owned an apple product

[warm vector]

Intel Ghost Canyon NUC be like

My family is an Apple family

because my dad's a Steve Jobs fan

[glossy plinth]

My parents keep buying apple computers even tho i keep telling them to not

[warm vector]

since like 1997

buy apple

be more simple

[glossy plinth]

apple bot good for gaming

[warm vector]

do you know intel NUC?

[chrome skiff]

I have a silent circle phone for personal and a samsung for work

[glossy plinth]

My parsnts literally bought a $2000 imac and it only has an i5

[chrome skiff]

there are about 500 different nucs now adays

[warm vector]

NUC

[chrome skiff]

your parents buy you a lot of things lol

[warm vector]

the shape of it is so weird

[chrome skiff]

ah the memory of being young

[warm vector]

its a horizontal rectangle

but looks a square from the side

[glossy plinth]

No they buy it for themselves

they just give me some money time to time

[chrome skiff]

oh oh okay i misread that

[warm vector]

Does the i3 support BF4?

[chrome skiff]

its not a support thing, Its a performance thing. Is the i3 fast enough to play bf4 i can almost guarantee you can find benchmarks on YouTube

[warm vector]

bruh

your that type who just says "do some research"

Uselessssssss

[chrome skiff]

you asked almost 100 questions with very broad points in the past 30 mins

[warm vector]

yeah I am deciding my new rig for the start of the new decade

[chrome skiff]

we are now on the point after talking about 4 cpus prior to this, we are on yet another cpu a unnamed i3 that im supposed to pull benchmarks out of my ass

save up and get a real pc or spec list

[warm vector]

CPU Intel Core i3-10100
VIEW

MOBO MSI H410M
VIEW

GPU Gigabyte GTX 1650 Super
VIEW

RAM Patriot Viper 8GB
VIEW

SSD ADATA 480GB
VIEW

CASE DEEPCOOL MATREXX 30
VIEW

PSU EVGA 600W
VIEW

ODD Install O.S. from USB
OS Windows 10

what BF game can this run?

best BF game

[chrome skiff]

youre scrounging together things to sell to make your budget work in your favor but you should just get money in hand to do so.

[warm vector]

bruh

[chrome skiff]

yes that cpu and gpu will "run" bfv

No no thats enough with that

[warm vector]

40 fps?

Battlefield 4?

[chrome skiff]

Acting like he is 12 not doing that

[warm vector]

Battlefield 1?

[glossy plinth]

Bro

Just save up some money

not that hard

[warm vector]

How to install more RAM into an HP Pavilion?

[fallen harbor]

what BF game can this run?
@warm vector any

[warm vector]

ok how to install RAM into an HP Pavilion?

so I can have like 8 GB

[fallen harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZDpHxYW-Hk

85fps on high settings

on 1080p

there's no game you cannot run with an i3 10100 and 1650super

[warm vector]

CPU 100 percent

Usually the lesser percent means that the CPU is powerful

[fallen harbor]

your point being

[warm vector]

hmm

The graphics card and RAM backed him up

[opaque saddle]

@warm vector not sure which model of pavilion you got. Laptop or desktop? The pavilion laptops needs to open the backplate from the bottom of your computer. Then, you have to make sure the new ram sticks that you got suits the motherboard and your current ram stick/s

[radiant plover]

Just get I7 or I9 if you can.

Wait nvm ur on a laptop.

[wanton carbon]

https://youtu.be/3XaOeLPztN4

[glossy plinth]

ooooo

ltt

[half vale]

[coarse nimbus]

Ooo clickbait title, he's done covering for them but will gladly take the check and cash it when the marketing team wants to say look at this 8k gaming potential !!1!!1.. lul

[latent light]

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/amd-buys-xilinx-35b-deal-132426695.html

[storm osprey]

yea thats a clickbait title, 3070 is well within nvidia claims that no one will reasonably complain

so linus is bitching about nvidia only lifting embargo on FE reviews when in the past you had to wait a month to even buy an aftermarket card?

ye

rtx is better on 3000 compared to 2000

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey yo i got a question

[storm osprey]

ok

[glossy plinth]

can i show it on

dms

[storm osprey]

ye

[glossy plinth]

ty nyphon

[storm osprey]

not a problem

[chrome skiff]

I killed my old 1080ti from evga sent it in for my 3 year rma and they sent me back a 2080 super. Man evga is good

Just got the card back today but i didnt know what it was, they said it was as good as 1080ti or better. So i was kinda expecting a 2070 super or a 2080 but getting a free 2080 super upgrade is pretty sweet

they matched the fan count and i got a evga 2080 super black. not too shabby

if they only saw what i was doing to that poor 1080ti, aio on a nzxt kraken mount shunt modded and beat the piss out of it for 99% of its life

shunt mod gave me 135% head room in msi after burner with a total tdp of 370 watts that i could get stable, there are a few people that got 400 watts out of theirs. But i just tired pushing it to 400 watts and the card hard locked and both bioses we frozen

[left drum]

Holy shit

You are so lucky

[chrome skiff]

im not saying its a guarantee by any means but a ton of people are using the buyback/upgrade thing through evga and asus right now. so if and when they allows those trade ins they have a ton of used cards coming in and they offer the warranty still. so I def feel I got lucky

[prime jasper]

I have a question. At the moment I have an Nvidia GTX 1650, a Core I5-9400F and 8GB of ram and I am running at 40 fps. Is the problem with the ram or the gtx?

[left drum]

Which game ?

Settings ?

[molten coral]

1650 and a i5 9400F is fine

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3WI5RFh6W4&ab_channel=AnáliseInformática

with same specs but 16gb of ram they are getting 65-70 average

so its safe to say you need more ram

[molten coral]

^

[supple bane]

I doubt ram would double fps almost

Is it single channel or duel channel?

[left drum]

Not actually

[storm osprey]

🤷 im just going off the video

[supple bane]

If it's a single stick of 8gb then its 100% the issue

If its 2x4 then there is something else

[left drum]

Yep

2x power

Don't forget frequency speed

[prime jasper]

I have only one bar

@supple bane

[supple bane]

Theres your problem

That will decrease fps by around 40% in bfv

[prime jasper]

Oh okay, thank you very much ^^

[storm osprey]

so buy another stick of 8gb ram

get it EXACTLY the same if you can

if it doesnt work you return it and buy a 2x8 kit

[mild siren]

Yeah exactly the same is very important

Same company same model

[storm osprey]

speed and timings

[shell arrow]

just wondering does bf4 have hotas support? I cant seem to get any of the binds to work

[lilac delta]

Is VA panel better choice than IPS panel if I want to get rid of the backlight bleeding and ips glow? Dark doesn’t look dark on IPS screens while on VA the lightning and contrast is too much for me... i can’t even notice the sun because so much lightning around it.

[storm osprey]

uhhh, i always thought VA were worst for ghosting

[turbid verge]

IPS basically has a higher range of colour scale

and colour is more sharp

compared to TN and VA

[lilac delta]

Ips has more colors but I can’t really notice the difference and the colors on Va pannel are more vivid cause of contrast ratio

[wanton carbon]

so i have a friend and he is getting a pc for xmas , anyone know of any pc's that could run COD , R6 AND FORTNITE that is about 600-700 pounds ?

[storm osprey]

assuming 1080p 60hz?

144hz?

with monitor? without? mouse? keyboard? audio?

!!pc

!!build

[silent oasis]

1. What's your budget/currency and country of purchase? Any preferred physical/online shops?
2. Gaming? Streaming? What's your resolution/FPS targets? What games are you playing?
3. Not gaming or professional/hobby use cases? What are the applications you will use and workload involved? Kindly elaborate as much as possible.
4. What else do you need to buy? (monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, speakers, Windows, WiFi)
5. Anything else you want to tell us? RGB, Small Form Factor, already have a part list? Tell us!
6. If you have a build list and are looking for a second opinion or are upgrading an existing system, please have a PCPartPicker permalink for it (https://pcpartpicker.com/list)

[wanton carbon]

i think its for his pc alone

he want to get 140FPS stable in games

so ig 1080p

[storm osprey]

so 1080p 144hz and 700 budget for just tower?

assuming EU?

UK for pcpartpicker?

[wanton carbon]

yeah

[coarse nimbus]

140 fps

[storm osprey]

form factor?

streaming?

[wanton carbon]

he might stream

[storm osprey]

and hes not building till christmas right?

[wanton carbon]

nope

[storm osprey]

errr so when is he building?

[wanton carbon]

xmas ..

lol

well ig slightley before xmas

[storm osprey]

i just asked if hes building at christmas and you said no

ok so before xmas

but like, weeks before, not months

[wanton carbon]

most likely a week before

[storm osprey]

yea so prices will change

but as of now

what i would recommend would be a little over

ffs thats missing storage

man uk prices are... not as good as i thought they would be

does this include taxes though?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HzRNQD

might have to go micro build to meet budget

atm this is the cheapest i would get

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PcryXb

[wanton carbon]

that looks cool tho

that looks sick actually

thanks nyphon

[storm osprey]

just ideas, we got what? almost 2 months till he actually builds

shit will change

[wanton carbon]

yup

[storm osprey]

i doubt it will get 120+ fps in warzone, thats just a tough game

[wanton carbon]

yup

[storm osprey]

probably around 100 fps if i had to guess

[wanton carbon]

i hate warzone

[storm osprey]

r6 and fortnite i imagine this will get 120+

oh yea this crushes those games on low settings

[wanton carbon]

im more detail and high ish FPS in games

it pisses me off when the graphics are shit in games

especially RUST

[coarse nimbus]

isnt that like 6 years old

[wanton carbon]

7

yeah

still shit tho

[storm osprey]

i only need high textures

everything else can go low for that sweet visibility and fps

[wanton carbon]

i play basically max settings and get about 60-90fps avg

[digital nova]

ark is better than rust

[wanton carbon]

nahhh

theyre equal imo

[storm osprey]

Some people are just idiotic

[storm osprey]

Is that your bday?

[coarse nimbus]

is that when theyll finally have stock of new parts?

[storm osprey]

Lol please noooo

[storm osprey]

Thank god. Building is almost always better.

[jaunty bobcat]

I'm close to becoming a pc boi

[storm osprey]

That changes all the time and right now things are going to change since there’s new cpus and gpus coming out.

[storm osprey]

You install a gpu the same way you do on any mb

Remove brackets in case, take off the pcie sleeve on the gpu and slide it in. Screw the gpu to the case at the mounting bracket and plug in pcie power cables if needed

[lime raft]

(Id say plug in gpu last)

Make sure all other stuff is installed first

[storm osprey]

Sure in terms of general build order gpu is close to last.

[opal cliff]

I’m going to be so nervous building a pc again when I ever upgrade 😂

friend had to help me the first time

[opaque saddle]

dont put too much thermal paste on top of the cpu heatsink then you will fine

[storm osprey]

I do the X

[opaque saddle]

i do the dot

[lofty light]

I just squeeze the whole thing on

[opal cliff]

lol I’m afraid I might to much or to little on

Put

[opaque saddle]

i would say pea size then you will be fine

and you dont actually have to replace it often

[lofty light]

Yeah, also if it's not electrically conductive then putting on too much is no issue at all

[opaque saddle]

unless you meant "too much" is when it drips into the socket

[opal cliff]

I think more the second one lol

[analog bronze]

Hi, I have a problem regarding BF V that I'm hoping someone here might be able to help with. This is an issue that popped up seemingly randomly when I started up the game a few days ago. For some reason, whenever move my round around, it's almost like the game is a couple seconds behind my mouse input, then it catches up and then slows down again. So far I've tried:
-Checking my internet connection on different servers (sub 100 ping)

• Checking and updating NVIDIA drivers
  -Turning off DX 12
  -Reinstalling
  Here's a video trying to show the issue https://youtu.be/76S9lQFtg-E
  PC Specs:
  Ryzen 7 2700
  RTX 2070
  32 GB ram
  1080p 144hz monitor

[undone nest]

@analog bronze if you can show your pc specs

[analog bronze]

Oh yeah

[undone nest]

and had you updated all pc drivers?

not only nvidia

[analog bronze]

Yeah to my knowledge everythings up to date

[undone nest]

then you playing just check how much % works your cpu gpu and other

[analog bronze]

So check my CPU and GPU usage?

[undone nest]

yeah

also disk with ram

[analog bronze]

K one sec, I started up another game so it'll be a few mins 😛

[undone nest]

because sometimes cpu works100% and gpu 33%

no problem

just write pm later

[analog bronze]

Kk

[opaque saddle]

I do have similar setups. It’s hard to determine what exactly went wrong. If CPU or GPU aren’t overheating or not spikes at 100%. I would consider looking at your storage whether is the one causes the issues

[lilac delta]

Is this backlight bleeding? Might switch to VA again... black is not black at all

[opaque saddle]

yeah but i usually switch off the light just to be sure not a reflection off the lamp

[prime jasper]

You can see that the brightness is uneven, this is called IPS-glow, but that is really common in most monitors. https://www.limscave.com/reduce-ips-glow You can't judge if you have a backlight bleed/IPS glow problem or not like that though. When photographing the monitor the camera will automatically try and expose the photo for grey with a certain brightness and this means you overexpose the photo significantly. Also when using the monitor most should be at around 20-25 brightness. A better way is to lower the brightness and use the monitor in your normal light settings and see if you feel there is a problem, but don't go searching for it.

[chrome skiff]

I agree with derek on the storage issue or even ram. What you can do in game is open your ` and type perfoverlay.drawgraph 1 to turn on the system latency graph. You can turn it off by typing 0 instead of one, then seeing if there is any huge spikes or delay. Other then that i would ask if you plugged anything new in recently maybe a video cable is loose. That would loose some quality but also could add input delay from mouse to image. Maybe you changed the refresh rate? Check your resolution setting and make sure its set to the right hz which you will see in the resolution options.

Like if you have 5000 things plugged into 1 usb port through a hub it might start slowing you down. Just a question

I would also try another mouse if you can just to make sure it isnt your actual mouse. Like a 5 dollar one at dollar general something cheap. Or a second pc if you have one. @undone nest

[undone nest]

I would also try another mouse if you can just to make sure it isnt your actual mouse. Like a 5 dollar one at dollar general something cheap. Or a second pc if you have one. @undone nest
@chrome skiff bit he said other games works perfect

[opaque saddle]

i have a weird assumption, possibly to do with windows update. but still we don't have enough info so there are many things that could happened and we don't know

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHOBRvXYqEg&ab_channel=MYPC

also amd stream in 35?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-88voYK78&ab_channel=GameTrailers

[opaque saddle]

i used to spread thermal paste all over

[storm osprey]

thats not a bad one either

[strong breach]

poggers

[opaque saddle]

couldn't be bothered to find a card lmao

[storm osprey]

oh..

what did you use, your finger?

[opaque saddle]

no

[turbid verge]

i've seen th rumour

but if amd doesnt have something like dlss not gonna bother

[opaque saddle]

i tends to use a plastic bag these days

well sandwich bag and with my finger

[storm osprey]

lol well i guess that works

just a funny image

[wanton carbon]

https://youtu.be/oHpgu-cTjyM

[storm osprey]

whats up guys

lets goooooo

dont forget to smash that subscribe button

@supple bane chat here

[supple bane]

[storm osprey]

@supple bane

[supple bane]

why are people leaving lol,

[wanton carbon]

[storm osprey]

what up rock

[supple bane]

it was at 140k waiting, the stream starts and it drops to 120

[wanton carbon]

whats up homie

[storm osprey]

maybe stream bad and they are going elsewhere?

[wanton carbon]

ikr

it needs to hurry up man

finally

[storm osprey]

its live nowww

[supple bane]

actually looks really good

[wanton carbon]

wtf is godfall

[supple bane]

bitrate too low for anyone else?

[storm osprey]

lol yea

[supple bane]

its a blurry mess

[storm osprey]

like sub 720p

[supple bane]

aye

[wanton carbon]

its fine for me

[storm osprey]

its slowly getting better

[supple bane]

that is certainly more epic than a kitchen

[storm osprey]

oMg LiSa Su

[wanton carbon]

does she have a lisp ?

[storm osprey]

ehh i dont hear it

she has a weird way of talking though

[wanton carbon]

yup

[storm osprey]

2020 is not year of the gamer, we cant get shit

[wanton carbon]

lol

[storm osprey]

but at least we can game a lot because of covid

[wanton carbon]

i cant

[supple bane]

here it comes!

[wanton carbon]

i still have school

[supple bane]

dual 8pin power, thats a good sign

not 3 8 pin like rtx 3000

[wanton carbon]

wtf

[storm osprey]

here it issssss

i like how shes all casual and then has bright red pumps on

(lisa)

[supple bane]

im sorry but she looks like a karen

[wanton carbon]

lol

all i wanna see is the prices

[storm osprey]

all this means nothing to me

give me fps

[supple bane]

same

[storm osprey]

idc if theres a literal fairy running these chips, i need fps

[supple bane]

i wonder if this women actually understands this stuff or if she is just reading off a script

[wanton carbon]

she is speaking so slow

[storm osprey]

its sad we even consider that

but she does come off as a kind of publicity stuff to put more females up front

[supple bane]

2x rx 5000...

thats like a 2080ti?

maybe titan

[storm osprey]

hope they are over 2x, because if its 90% better people are gonna bitch

[wanton carbon]

if these are good prices i might get a radeon card in the future

WOAH

[supple bane]

if its the same price as 5700xt im happy

[storm osprey]

400 msrp for 5700xt?

[supple bane]

ye

[wanton carbon]

16GB

[storm osprey]

6800xt 600

bet

[wanton carbon]

THE FUCK

[supple bane]

550

bet

[wanton carbon]

750

blazing

[storm osprey]

idk, non 100 intervals are rare outside of budget options

[supple bane]

113 at 4k ultra on bfv

gonna see what the 3070 gets

[storm osprey]

damn looks like it matches

if this is cheaper thats gonna be killer

[wanton carbon]

wtf 200 fps

bfv

[storm osprey]

300w vs 320w

[supple bane]

damn

[storm osprey]

so not THAT much more power efficient

[supple bane]

hehe, rage mode

i like it

[storm osprey]

thats smart to pair them

[supple bane]

damn, thats a nice lead over 3080

[storm osprey]

hmmmm maybe its time for a new monitor xD

[wanton carbon]

why they have to choose FORTNITE

[supple bane]

improving input lag.. deja vu incoming

[storm osprey]

dear god, just let stability be good

250k people watching

[prime jasper]

Too few...

[storm osprey]

what did nvidia have?

[supple bane]

make it cheaper than 3080, please god

[storm osprey]

600-700

[prime jasper]

faster than 3080 (320W model though) in BF is better than I though

[storm osprey]

bf prefers amd cards

its a major outlier

[prime jasper]

Most important will be price and AVAILABILITY!!

[supple bane]

the game looks shit tbh lol

[storm osprey]

it looks ok

its gonna be an 7-8/10 game

[wanton carbon]

farcry 6 looks fun

tbf

[supple bane]

hmm, there is no holes in the io plate

so air doesnt get kicked out the back

interesting

650

[storm osprey]

ehhhh

[supple bane]

600-700
you got it bang on

[storm osprey]

i guess 600 at first

[supple bane]

how much is the 3080?

[prime jasper]

699

[storm osprey]

and i did say they dont do 50 intervals xD

so 6800 is 3070 competitor

but costs more?

[wanton carbon]

WHAT