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molten bramble
after the clusterfuck launch of ampere i wouldn't want one even if could get one atm
@violet plank Exxxcceelleeennntt, that's one more person I don't have to compete with. 😄
wanton carbon
just realised the heater has a refresh rate 
storm osprey
@violet plank whats the most you would spend to get 20gb of vram on a 3080?
assuming 700 baseline
supple bane
just realised the heater has a refresh rate
@wanton carbon hehe btw, uk mains supply is 50hz, that heater is 60hz
I'm not sure what the tolerence is on devices. But dat eint right
wanton carbon
its a heater , so ig it needs to have more ? as it needs to produce heat
idk how electric works ngl , i dont mess with this shit
supple bane
Egh I'm not gonna explain how AC current works lol. Takes too long
Basically. Ac electricity goes backwards and forwards, in the case of the uk, 50 times a second (50hz)
DC is just a continuous flow of electrons in one direction
storm osprey
granty, whats the most you would spend for 10gb more vram?
wanton carbon
i don’t rlly understand electric science shit , but from what I see these heaters produce a shit tone of electric or electrons because these things get hot as hell , I have burned my hands from them on multiple occasions
supple bane
You will cover it in school at some point
latent light
20GB 3080 is supposed to use regular GDDR6 instead of the faster GDDR6X on the 10GB model
I think the 20GB model will cost $100-200 more
supple bane
Meh, not worth it imo
I dont think you will need anything more than 10gb for 1440p gaming @storm osprey I think the faster ram will have more of an impact
storm osprey
at 1440p i know im good
at 4k i think a COUPLE of games will get close but im more than fine with dropping some settings if it causes a problem
wanton carbon
do any of you guys know any steering wheels and pedals that aren’t stupid prices , it’s for euro truck simulator
supple bane
latent light
At 1080p, RTX 3090 is only 15% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti. In 1440p, this difference becomes 28%, while in 4K this margin becomes 52%. Tested with i9-10900K at 5.3 GHz all-core.
Basically even at 1440p the RTX 3080 and 3090 are bottlenecked with any CPU
Zen3 save us
wanton carbon
nyphon I might actually try that and see if it’s good enough
I might get a steering wheel in case I feel like getting the new farming simulator
storm osprey
im a fucking genius
storm osprey
wanton carbon
lollll wtf
coarse nimbus
lol why do people even test 1080p with those cards
fallen harbor
ello
got a question
i have an hyper 212 and im wondering where should the fans aim to. I've alwas had them face outside, taking air from the heatsink
but idk if that's the best idea
anybody knows?
storm osprey
have your fan on the right side, with sticker on the right side
fallen harbor
so taking air from the heatsink you mean
coarse nimbus
one fan pushes air from the front of the case, through the heatsink, and the other one pulls it through the heatsink and shoots it to the back of the case
coarse nimbus
assume you have a rear case fan exhausting air out the back too?
fallen harbor
yes
coarse nimbus
cpu fan would roughly line up with that
fallen harbor
i have one on the back, two on top and two on front
and two on the hyper 212
a total of 7 120mm fans
cpu fan would roughly line up with that
so the cpu fan on the back side of the heatsink?
pulling out along with the back case fan?
coarse nimbus
yeah it would be directing the warm air off the heatsink into the case fan
storm osprey
@fallen harbor
cool air from front of case, everything inside should ideally guide that air out the back and top of case
fallen harbor
tyvm
wanton carbon
ngl i dont get how heat sinks work
storm osprey
head from your cpu travels to the cpu speader that makes contact with cpu coolers mounting point, thermal paste or pads makes the gap virtually 0 and the heat goes through copper tubing that gets spead out on the surface area of all the fins and a fan blows cooler air over it all
coarse nimbus
cpu metal plate warm....thermal paste help transfer heat onto heatsink plate, radiator pipes come out from heat sink plate...air cool down pipes... profit?
fallen harbor
my computer has now seven 120mm fans 🕺
fallen harbor
are 144hz 1080p monitors common?
or most 144hz monitors are like 1440p or 4k or whatever
coarse nimbus
common enough id say
fallen harbor
ic
btw how would you compare the ps5's gpu with nvidia?
is it possible to know that yet?
coarse nimbus
probably have to wait for actual tests to happen
afaik theres only written "this is what the console has for components"
fallen harbor
all i know is that the ps5 has 10tflops?
but idk how to compare that to a graphics card
storm osprey
outside of 1080p 60/75hz monitors id say 144hz 1080p is the most common
fallen harbor
kk ty
latent light
60hz to 75hz is noticeable for me
Tho I don't see the difference between 144 and 165hz
glossy plinth
120hz and 144hz are also unnoticable
strong breach
144hz monitors are so cheap
you can find them for under 200€
Samsung Odyssey C24RG52 for example
fallen harbor
ill check how much they are in my country for shit n giggles
average of 510usd
noice
fallen harbor
how am i supposed to find sys fans?
i want to replace mine
how are they commercially named?
lofty light
System fans? Like for a desktop?
violet plank
@violet plank whats the most you would spend to get 20gb of vram on a 3080?
@storm osprey nothing since I will go for amd
Availability is about 10-15 cards a month here for 308010g
Not gonna wait til dunno when in 2021
3080 retail prices are already reaching 1k$
FU nvidia
But to answer your question, hypothetical 200$ more I guess
violet plank
how am i supposed to find sys fans?
@fallen harbor mb manual
violet plank
NAVI 21 XTX - AMD's biggest secret, AIBs were not officially told about it yet, performance is unknown. Might launch as a reference-only model first. It has more CUs than Navi 21 XT.
violet plank
XTX=80 cu's
mild siren
turbid verge
violet plank
mild siren
Myes
violet plank
gonna have to kill something if i can't preorder a 5900x tonight
fallen harbor
@fallen harbor mb manual
@violet plank not what i meant
coarse nimbus
Just look for case fans 
violet plank
thought you wanted to connect case fans to your mb instead of your psu directly ?
coarse nimbus
So he wants to buy fans that have 3 or 4 pin connectors
violet plank
hmm,win 10 20H2 looks nice,i like it 
wanton carbon
what gpu is it
wanton carbon
okay
@fallen harbor you good with laptops
intel(r) iris(r) plus graphics is her gpu , i have never seen it before
fallen harbor
thought you wanted to connect case fans to your mb instead of your psu directly ?
@violet plank No, I want to buy them, and I can't find any by searching the words "motherboard fan" or "system fan" or "case fan". Not in my country at least. Maybe there's some language barrier. I'm not entirely sure how these fans are usually refered as in spanish tbh.
ancient flame
intel(r) iris(r) plus graphics is her gpu , i have never seen it before
@wanton carbon how dare you asume my gender jk lol
bruh no spoiler
fallen harbor
intel(r) iris(r) plus graphics is her gpu , i have never seen it before
@wanton carbon it's integrated cpu graphics
not fit for demanding games
wanton carbon
ohhhh
fallen harbor
look for "dxdiag" in your windows search bar
open it
click yes if it asks you a question
ancient flame
ok
violet plank
hmm yeah,case fans would be the normal term
fallen harbor
hmm yeah,case fans would be the normal term
i guess my country ran out of them then lul
wouldnt surprise me
violet plank
or pc case fans
fallen harbor
we are going down deep
violet plank
lol
ancient flame
ikr
violet plank
i would send you some if it wasn't that expensive
think even a small packet would be like 80$
fallen harbor
@ancient flame i am almost sure you can run bf4, maybe not amazingly but very playable at least
fallen harbor
maybe, but im doubtful
ancient flame
ill just go with bf4
wanton carbon
bf4 is still popular tho
ancient flame
bf4 premium edition is what comes up
do i buy that one?
fuck i idec anymore
9 hours download time
well fuck me
fallen harbor
do i buy that one?
wouldnt recommend that one
premium edition comes with all the dlc maps, which are very unpopulated nowadays
ancient flame
premium edition comes with all the dlc maps, which are very unpopulated nowadays
@fallen harbor bruh i just bought it
i think its cheaper than the actual bf4 tho
fallen harbor
lol ok
hard aurora
Premium might be good for unlocking sum attachments tho cuz of the battlepacks
prime jasper
If Destiny 2 featured a bow,why wouldn't Halo 5,Titanfall 2 and Star Citizen feature a compound bow?
(I mean,Destiny 2 is as futuristic as these 3 games )
If crossbow doesn't fit in Titanfall 2, why would it fit in Apex Legends? Is it true that it will appear in Apex legends?
fallen harbor
maybe the developers just dont like it and can do whatever pleases them?
storm osprey
yooo 1 more hour
storm osprey
amd zen 3 announcement
im a sucker for odd numbers, and zen 3 hopefully use the 5000 nomenclature would almost guarantee a buy
fallen harbor
i hate amd nomenclatures :(
in both gpu and cpu
nvidia and intel always looked more friendly and familiar
storm osprey
all nomenclatures are dumb
amds and intels for cpus are pretty much the same too
gen/tier/sku
fallen harbor
yeah but amd changes all of its logic shortly
storm osprey
at least amd doesnt have k, kf, f, h, s at the end
fallen harbor
intel has been doing the same shit for like 15 years
storm osprey
its been consistent since ryzen launch
fallen harbor
amd on the other hand, yeah, ryzen models are practically the same as intel in terms of nomenclature, but they are new
and then there was fx
and whatnot
and they will probably stop the whole ryzen nomenclature and start anew
storm osprey
yea some 5+ years ago it was stupid, but meh
fallen harbor
you hear i5 2500 and even if you never heard of that one before, you already can tell how powerful it is, to a certain degree
but no matter how used you are to ryzen, if you started caring about hardware in the last 3 years, you will have no idea wth an fx4300 is
and if amd keeps being amd, this will happen again
ryzen will stop being used and a whole new nomenclature will be used
probably anywhere in the next 5 years
storm osprey
idk, ryzen is popular an d successful, its got a name for itself
fx really didnt have anything going for itself other than being the "budget pick"
fallen harbor
although, i hope they wont, because i am almost sure that the reason amd decided to change nomenclatures overtime was in order to try to get rid of a bad image. FX have always had a worse reputation than intel, so probably they used the ryzen nomenclature as a whole marketing thing so people don't compare it to FX, and since amd is being very popular now, i imagine they might keep the ryzen nomenclature from now on
oh you just said what i just said before i finished typing
storm osprey
lol yup
storm osprey
1 minute on zen 3!
supple bane
40 seconds!!
storm osprey
if amd is gonna do another major upgrade like 3000 did stock is gonna be diiiick
violet plank
19% ipc increase is insane
storm osprey
here i was, planning to upgrade no matter what because i "need" to, and i gotta compete with a bunch of neckbeards that "need" the best and 15% performance increases...
violet plank
now comes the interesting part
fallen harbor
meanwhile i am happy my pc has a lot of cute led lights in it
wanton carbon
did i miss the stream shit
storm osprey
its on right now rock
wanton carbon
oh
violet plank
storm osprey
still hasnt officially been announced
wanton carbon
i will watch it
storm osprey
5000 series!
violet plank
4.8 only
violet plank
ok on 105w lol,fucking nice
violet plank
but the unified cache system will give more performance than the ghz in the end
fallen harbor
everyone in the chat is spamming both "boo why not 5ghz" and also "rip intel" so whats the catch
storm osprey
expectations vs reality
intel is screwed, but people wanted that magic number just because
supple bane
Come on amd shout 5950x in my face
violet plank
5ghz is kind of a magic barrier
storm osprey
lets see 5700x and 5600
violet plank
curious if the 5800x goes higher
fallen harbor
doesnt intel have yet to release something soon? or is this amd's response to what they already released?
violet plank
there is a 5700x ?
storm osprey
why wouldnt there be?
violet plank
comet lake,another 14nm refresh in 2021
fallen harbor
so this new cpu is literally only better for csgo and lol
supple bane
Consistently beating the 10900k tho, on 105w that's nice
latent light
storm osprey
imagine buying a 5900x for gaming xD
wanton carbon
who plays cs and LOL anyway
latent light
5900X is 26% faster than 3900XT
storm osprey
violet plank
disappointing clocks
storm osprey
wanton carbon
how the fuck is it only 550 tho
quaint topaz
Wake me up when they show Big Navi.
violet plank
maybe i'll go for the 5950x lol
prime jasper
supple bane
4.9 reeee
violet plank
now the question remains,is it possible to oc it
supple bane
Yeah certainly
violet plank
but how much
prime jasper
Overclocking is getting less and less these days, both in cpu's and gpu's
storm osprey
@quaint topaz thats not today
quaint topaz
i know
violet plank
look
wanton carbon
now the gpus 00
fallen harbor
imagine spending 800 dollars on a processor
quaint topaz
watching
storm osprey
triple fan for FE confirmed, thats good
violet plank
my guess that was the 6900 xtx
storm osprey
mw 80 fps at 4k? thats pretty damn impressive
prime jasper
I'm impressed anyhow
wanton carbon
how much will it be tho
quaint topaz
didnt mention if ray tracing was on
violet plank
true
storm osprey
highly doubt rtx at 4k is getting 80 fps
violet plank
ye me neither
storm osprey
if it is thats fucking yuuuge and they should be shouting that from the rooftops
quaint topaz
Depends on the game.
violet plank
for rtx to use without any performance hit,there will be another 2 generations
but i don't care about rtx anyways
at least not on the pc
quaint topaz
I wanna see how well the big navi cards handle DXR
AMD has had more time to work on the tech
violet plank
i wanna know if amd has something similar to dlss
quaint topaz
doubt it
violet plank
and if they will have full stock on launch
quaint topaz
nvidia beats AMD in that regard as always
violet plank
rumor is yes actually
can't recall the name tho
does the same thing
but no idea if it will be implemented already
coarse nimbus
Is Intel stock basically like the German mark during hyperinflation now? 
violet plank
lol
storm osprey
when are these cpus coming?
violet plank
waiting for the shops to list them 
prime jasper
5950 for 799 is the 16 core cpu not the 12 core 5900
latent light
5600X all the way
violet plank
you're serious?
latent light
5600X is at least 12% faster than 10600K
storm osprey
you think 5600x is going to beat 10600k in gaming?
violet plank
fucktel not even having pcie 4.0
latent light
Very easily
storm osprey
pcie 4.0 doesnt do anything for gaming
violet plank
it will,very soon
storm osprey
even with a 10900k and 3080/3090 you get a couple of fps
violet plank
but i won't argue with you about that
latent light
Every single Ryzen 5000 CPU beats even the i9-10900K
storm osprey
id bet pcie 2.0 to 4.0 is within a few fps of eachother too
fallen harbor
Every single Ryzen 5000 CPU beats even the i9-10900K
hm what
storm osprey
benchmarks will tell
prime jasper
Won't pci-e matter next year when Windows gets that direct access to the ssd for gaming?
storm osprey
only time pcie will matter is on storage transferring large files
latent light
Ryzen 9 5900X is 26% faster than the 3900XT in gaming average which would put it at about 12-15% faster than the i9-10900K
fallen harbor
is it cheaper than i9 10900k
latent light
About $50 more I think
fallen harbor
i see
latent light
Idk 10900k prices atm
violet plank
storm osprey
for 300 bucks, higher pricing than 10600k, with no igpu and assuming 10% more perf, thats a bit weird
amd kind of gave up their main thing of providing 90% of the performance for 2/3 the cost
violet plank
your money
storm osprey
for them to go high in price and MAYBE beat the 10600k
this isnt about money, its about logic
the only saving grace atm is that amd ecosystem has better features for slightly cheaper
violet plank
buying intel is a waste of money,that's what i meant
storm osprey
features that dont directly transalte to better gaming performance
we assume its a waste
prime jasper
It seems you have already decide Nyph, it's better to keep an open mind and wait for the benchmarks and decide then
storm osprey
ive not decided...
i literally said benchmarks will tell 20 minutes ago
if anything im the only one being objective on the topic and not vying for some "intel dead" narrative
fallen harbor
idk why intel still bothers in having igpus on high end cpus
storm osprey
i wouldnt call 10600k high end
fallen harbor
that sure makes them more expensive
storm osprey
they do have F variants that opt out of igpu and are usually cheaper by 20 or more bucks
latent light
I've seen an F variant of every Intel CPU since 9th gen
storm osprey
there are pc markets outside of gaming too
latent light
Btw Ryzen 5 5600X beats the i9-10900K in gaming by >10%
storm osprey
10600kf msrp is supposed to be 240
fallen harbor
i got an i5 8400 instead of a ryen 5 3600 but ive been building friends pcs with ryzen 5 3600, i am a hero that knows pain
storm osprey
@latent light source or just doing math off the 5900x?
even a source atm wouldnt matter since its likely from amd itself so again, lets see independent testing
latent light
5600X, 5800X and 5900X all perform about the same in gaming
All within 2% performance margin
Just like how 3600X, 3700X, 3800X, 3900X all perform within margin of error
Also AMD presentations with Lisa Su on stage aren't gonna lie
Every single presentation for previous gen Ryzen were right on the money
storm osprey
i can only hope its true
i had planned to get zen 3 basically no matter what
but i wasnt expecting a price hike to be even higher than 10600ks infalted prices even in the assumptions its 10% faster now
prime jasper
Intel might lower prices to counter AMD. That is what I would do if I was them
storm osprey
problem is the prices are still inflated likely from low stock
10600kf msrp is 240.. thats 60 bucks cheaper than 5600x (though without cpu cooler)
hmm, so if you can get a 10600kf for msrp and put a hyper 212 on it youre sitting at 270, if 5600x is 10% faster that is roughly the same price to performance
fallen harbor
man i dont like the aesthetics of modern cases
they are all the same
and kinda lame
with all of their right side completely transparent
not all of the inside of a pc looks cool
i unironically like my thermaltake versa n23 more than any other case i've ever seen
but it seems it's considered old and out of fashion
storm osprey
its cheap and what people want
fallen harbor
what is
storm osprey
glass side panels for gaming cases so they can show off their compnents/rgb
fallen harbor
my case does have a glass
but it's a window
what i dont like is them having one side that is 100% glass
storm osprey
yea, thats cheaper and people want to see into their case
latent light
AMD told GN that there won't be non-X models of Ryzen 5000
storm osprey
so 5600x pricing is not going to get cheaper with a 5600 model
ill likely still get amd to reward them for competition
i can only hope they do beat intel in gaming since msrp prices 5600x is more expensive
even if they do beat intel by 10% thats the price difference of a msrp 10600kf with a good cooler
latent light
5600X is quite a bit faster than the 10600K while having a much lower TDP
5600X has only 65W TDP
10600k has 125W
5600X probably runs the same power limits as 3600/3600X
storm osprey
🤷 ill wait for benchmarks
ehh maybe i wont, i might just pre order 5600x...
maybe since i game at 1440p and 4k i wonder if getting a 3700x on the cheap would be better actually...
supple bane
Well, if the 5600x is faster than the 10600k...
I'd say no
Because the 3700x is slower than the 10600k
So it would be a downgrade
glossy plinth
Wtf i thought ryzen 5000 chips were gonna he like 750 us dollar but its 500
storm osprey
at 1440p/4k the cpu doesnt really matter as much
prime jasper
Ryzen 9 5950X - 16c/32t, 4.9 GHz, 72 MB Cache, 105W, $799
Ryzen 9 5900X - 12c/24t, 4.8 GHz, 70 MB Cache, 105W, $549
Ryzen 7 5800X - 8c/16t, 4.7 GHz, 36 MB Cache, 105W, $449
Ryzen 5 5600X - 6c/12t, 4.6 GHz, 35 MB Cache, 65W, $299
10600k is better
fallen harbor
it's far more expensive isnt it
storm osprey
yes, im only talking about a result
fallen harbor
yeah i was legitly asking because i wasnt sure
storm osprey
its expensive because of stock though
well thats gets a bit weird because lack of cpu cooler and mbs generally being more expensive, especially with models that allow OC
so running under the assumption that the 5600x is 10% faster than 10600k, at 1440p that lead should be around 6% or so different
so from 3600 to 5600x at 1440p we are gonna se something like a 13% difference?
at 1440p a 3700x with more cores and likely cheaper price could be a better purchase in the long run if core count race for games continue
fallen harbor
ive grown up very used to intel all of my life, i dont think ill ever switch to amd cpus tbh and i admit it's foolish, i dont intend to defend myself lmao. Only way I'd get amd cpu is if amd all of the sudden started building proper gpus that dont consume as much energy as a spaceship so I can have both amd cpu and gpu for shit n giggles and aesthetics
storm osprey
amd 5000 series gpus were good for power consumption, and better price to performance than nvidia
but drivers and apparently some hardware issues early stopped that hype train pretty quick
5600xt matched 2060 in consumption and the 5600xt were cheaper and better performing
fallen harbor
amd gpus are always better in price
but two of the three amd gpus ive had came faulty
one died in 1 year and the other came unable to manage energy properly and turned any computer ive tested it in off
on the other hand ive never had any problems with nvidia
amd gpus are always better in price
and this isn't a very good plus, because the money you save up when buying amd is the money you spend in a higher voltage psu that is capable to handle it
you can save up on psu when you buy nvidia, compared to amd at least
for both you need a good brand of course, but not necessarily a high voltage
violet plank
ah now i remember what it was,the amd pendant to nvidias dlss,it's a development from sony and amd called FidelityFX
no idea where it stands atm tho
something like a version 1.0 already exists,seems they work or are about to release a "v2.0" for rdna2
crisp surge
i got bf4 premium edition on steam and i try to launch the game an it does nothing
wanton carbon
restart steam
crisp surge
nvm they says "this game is down"
violet plank
install punkbuster
coarse nimbus
anyone checked on grim in the past couple of hours? did he run out of lotion 
fallen harbor
literally what
storm osprey
xD
molten coral
lmao
storm osprey
"According to AMD's website, only the Ryzen 5 5600X will come with an included cooler. That will be the Wraith Stealth, which is a slight step down from the Wraith Spire included with the Ryzen 5 3600XT. The other high-end Ryzen 5000 chips announced so far won't because they're "optimised for enthusiasts""
fallen harbor
ur face is an enthusiast
storm osprey
id take that as a compliment
fallen harbor
can somebody remind me pls what the h means in an intel cpu?
f is no igpu, k is overclockeable, whats h?
storm osprey
low power iirc, laptops
fallen harbor
oic
fallen harbor
what does it mean then
fallen harbor
what am i supposed to interpret when seeing an i5 8300h
storm osprey
for a laptop?
storm osprey
should be for laptop since ive never seen that designation for desktop
fallen harbor
high power compared to what?
storm osprey
to a low power (U) cpu
fallen harbor
so theres i5 8300u and i5 8300h which would be the equivalent to a regular nvidia card and a super one?
storm osprey
uhhhh no?
fallen harbor
what then
storm osprey
i really dont know how to explain
to the end user sure, its like a faster card vs slower, assuming the slower card uses less power too
latent light
According to AMD, the Ryzen 9 5900X is 46% faster than the Ryzen 9 3900XT in CS:GO and 50% faster in LoL
coarse nimbus
I thought my paged was lagged, did someone post that chart before? 
good though that they can keep getting more and more performance out of decade old games
terse void
anyone having issues with origin?
I am having trouble because I cannot see my friends list
at all
it says 0/0 online
tight nymph
Ae
I'm gonna get me a gamer setup
Any recommendations
Other than Razer
Or
Razor
vale kettle
games like lol and csgo are not really a comparison any small good change in performance could give you couple extra fps
its the games like mfs 2020 that would be impressive to see big gains in
safe spade
Does amd have an official discord?
wanton carbon
Other than Razer
@tight nymph razer isnt all bad
tight nymph
Razer is the same as any other gamer equipment
coarse nimbus
Are you in windowed fullscreen?
wanton carbon
yeah
coarse nimbus
What tech company is that
latent light
Ryzen 9 5900X vs Intel i9-10900K
CS:GO - 5900X is 19% faster
LoL - 5900X is 21% faster
Overwatch - 5900X is 17% faster
CoD:MW - 5900X is 11% faster
lofty light
Internal benchmarks?
cosmic warren
The new cpus from amd give bfv a whopping
Get rdy
5% increase on dx12.
....
Gosh this game is so unoptimized
coarse nimbus
I only care about firestorm benchmarks
latent light
So that RX 6000 series GPU that AMD teased is only about 8% slower than the RTX 3080 on average but they compared only 5 games
They also compared with an Nvidia optimized title, Modern Warfare
cosmic warren
Dude firstorm runs good
I played it on a 2200g alone
No dedicated gpu
And best combo for bfv firestorm is rx 5700 and 3700x
120 and over but cant rlly test at 60 players since so hard to find that many
But from playing 4 v4 or 12 to 18 it still holds that 120 average
In firestorm
fallen harbor
I played it on a 2200g alone
afaik amd gpu in general is pretty good when running frostbite, i guess that might be the reason
storm osprey
Razer is the same as any other gamer equipment
@tight nymph i wouldnt buy 95% of razer products, almost everything ive ever tried from them didnt last nearly as long as any other products
i gave them another shot with the viper mini and it fucked up in 2 months
fallen harbor
woah
storm osprey
their rma process is pretty wack too
wanton carbon
ok
storm osprey
@tight nymph what parts do you need?
watch me tailor pick gear for you then you get the meme set up of g502, hyper x cloud, and k95....
tight nymph
Iuno
storm osprey
what do you mean you dont know what you need?
fallen harbor
sounds logical to me
99% of people dont know what they need
since 99% dont know anything about hardware
storm osprey
i mean sure
but when you ask them and you go through the process and then they just get whats popular its annoying
fallen harbor
oh that has happened to me multiple times
storm osprey
they play fps games 99% of the time and want to take it serious, then get a g502 mouse which is a brick and the only saving grace of it for fps is that it has a good sensor
fallen harbor
friends come to me for desperate help, i tell them what's best, but they end up buying a pc with igraphics that is more expensive than anything i suggested, because they saw it in multiple market publishers
and that was somehow more convincing than anything i said
¯_(ツ)_/¯
supple bane
nyphon bashing the g502 again
storm osprey
1100 bucks for a 3600, 2060 super, 16gb of ram, etc
he went to microcenter and listened to the guy working there and spent 1200 bucks on a 3700x, 1660 super and 16gb of ram
supple bane
oof
fallen harbor
yeh
storm osprey
nyphon bashing the g502 again
@supple bane its a good all purpose mouse even if i dont personally like it, but for fps you cant get much further for a good mouse for that than g502 without it being faulty
supple bane
yeah. im just gonna agree to disagree with you tbh. because this argument will never end otherwise lol
all im saying is, there are too many people that adore it for it to be bad. i mainly play with 4 people on bf 3 of those use g502's
storm osprey
its not bad, i just said its good
violet plank
stop throwing your gear out the window ffs @storm osprey
storm osprey
if anything if treated this mouse the best of all my others
granted it didnt BREAK but i assume the tolerances are shit because it grinds when i click the mouse buttons
supple bane
razer make good products. i just have a problem with their keyboards and monitors
fallen harbor
last time this happened to me i was suggesting my friend an i3 9100f with 1650 super and 16gb ram and whatnot which made a total of around 60k ar$ (he had a tight budget) but he kept linking me sites offering things with like ryzen 3 3200g for 80k ar$ every-single-day after my suggestion, asking me why he shouldnt buy those. I explained to him in detail every time he did it, i even sent him fucking benchmark videos every time he talked to me. He ended up buying a pc with i3 9100f and gtx1030 and 8gb single channel ram for 85k ar$ and says it's an amazing pc. He plays warzone with it and says it's the best experience he ever had (it struggles to reach 30fps on low and 720p btw).
He stopped messaging me when he got it btw, he never told me that he bought it, he avoided me because he knew i wouldn't agree with it. I was asking just out of curiosity to know what he got until he got mad and told me that. This happened to me multiple times, idk what i am doing wrong lmao
violet plank
dunno,just use their mice since over a decade
storm osprey
@violet plank listen to my video
fallen harbor
time to stalk nyphon
violet plank
well yeah,never had anything remotely like this with all my razer mice
storm osprey
its apparently common for the viper mini
storm osprey
someone took their apart to show a weird design choice for the switch to go through and they think thats why it grinds
violet plank
maybe quality differs from model to model,no idea
storm osprey
i did get this fairly early on release
so could be early production growing pains
but it just gives the brand a salty taste in my mouth that i avoid them for years, have no problems with other mice, give razer another chance and theres problems
violet plank
i only remember 2 mice that failed hard for me,one was a steel series,the other a logitech
not faulty or anything,just bad,really bad
storm osprey
see ive had maybe 3 logitechs and they are working now for 5ish years
anecdotal but damn
wanton carbon
guys i have an annoying ass noise every now and then in my headest , i tried another headset and it was still happening it sounds like a little 'BZZT' noise
violet plank
admit it,you throw your stuff around
storm osprey
@wanton carbon could be electrical interference
wanton carbon
any way to stop it
storm osprey
try plugging headset into another port
wanton carbon
and if i was to open a app like rust , my whole pc would freeze
for like 4 seconds
violet plank
if you're using the front panel header,switch to the mb backpanel
storm osprey
if you are using front connections that has to pass through a lot of electrical intereferences
wanton carbon
back ones arent working
storm osprey
i have to ask, but did you plug it in correctly?
is there an interface in windows you have to switch it to?
rough helm
hi
storm osprey
is there still static?
wanton carbon
i will wait for like 10 mins and see
wanton carbon
its not all the time
its like every 5 mins
okay spotify sounds fine now
NOPE MAYBE NOT
FUCK
molten coral
simputers
rough helm
its nice if priced 600$ @latent light
storm osprey
@wanton carbon can you try a different source?
you said 2 different headphones did it so that suggests its the source
unless both headphones are bad
wanton carbon
i have had the main pair for like 2 years
storm osprey
and no static before?
storm osprey
sounds like something happened to your on board sound
wanton carbon
do you know why my computer freezes for like 4 seconds when i open an app tho ?
well it freezes randomly sometimes even when im playing games
violet plank
for you @supple bane
just changed the fans,not entirely done
since i replaced the upper vibrations pads to white ones i might add some uv lights
violet plank
and btw the airflow is just crazy,i could run a 3090 sli in it lol
not really,you know i am a heretic who has that case under the desk
storm osprey
THAT PC IS UNDER YOUR DESK?!
violet plank
and for you nyph,that's 200$ in noctua fans
violet plank
always 😏
storm osprey
werent the other fans more expensive?
storm osprey
(2) 5 pack of p12 would have been 70ish bucks
violet plank
those are high airflow models,they are insane in terms of performance
inaudible til 90% rpm
storm osprey
and its on the floor...
wanton carbon
ia that a lian li case ?
violet plank
yes
storm osprey
do you have pets?
violet plank
o11 xl
wanton carbon
them cases look nice
violet plank
no
storm osprey
ok that helps a lot at least
i get so much fur on my floor since i had wood floors and 4 pets
violet plank
i have my studio setup on the desk,by putting up the case i would destroy the sound scenery
damn,thought i had some uv lights left
wanton carbon
i get so much fur on my floor since i had wood floors and 4 pets
same , i get hair on my floor too but i dont even have nay pets that have hair in my room
violet plank
i clean my desk and every device like 3x a week shrug
wanton carbon
i dont rlly get much dust in my room tho
i have my widndows open all the time so ig it just flies out
im hoping after christmas save up and get a corner desk tho
i wanna get something like that , but have it so one corner is longer then the other as if its in a L shape
violet plank
had that once,wouldn't want it anymore
wastes too much space
rather have extra wide normal desk
like the one @molten coral has now
wanton carbon
or i wanna get a long one but a corner one will git perfectly in my room
wanton carbon
i would get a desk like that one
or like this one
i wanna have one so its big enough for me to add some decor to it and not just have moniters and shit on it
flint locust
needs plants
wanton carbon
^^^
like them little plastic ones that look like grass
i would get a fake one so i didnt have to water it
and it would probs get to hot in my room
flint locust
i have a bunch of real ones
molten coral
mtc give me that poster 
flint locust
Dan mailed it to me a few years ago 
wanton carbon
i could do something like this and get some LED'S to go on them ?
wanton carbon
that pic isnt from my house btw its just of google to give me ideas
if that shelf was in my room i would be happy
flint locust
hiding wires in the wall is easy though, did it for my wall mounted tv
wanton carbon
i cant mount my moniters you see , but if i was able to i would get one of them plastic cable hiders to run up and down my walls
someones desk on reddit , looks to close to nature
i would build myself a desk but i doubt my parents would let me
flint locust
Get the monitor arm like the one in my pic, similar result as wall mounting
only thing i have wall mounted is my TV
storm osprey
we shall wait for the truth
violet plank
Do those water marks not annoy you ?
@supple bane ffs,now i can't unsee them since you wrote that
molten coral
I was annoyed by it the first time I saw a picture from you 
violet plank
supple bane
everytime you send a picture i notice it
violet plank
good thing it's under the desk lol
maybe i'm get/make some silverish stickers for it
or full black,dunno
have to get the uv lights in first
and maybe wait for the new gpu,if it will be the 6900 xtx i will change the color scheme anyways again
or i just go full old noctua style to annoy yall
wanton carbon
where are his water marks
wanton carbon
ohh
i never saw the pic so idk where they was
cant u get a fan cover or something ?
violet plank
i could cover it with pretty much anything,that side is not spinning
or i could go this way
wanton carbon
why do u have 2 cpu coolers
violet plank
that's not mine lol,just an example
wanton carbon
ohh
storm osprey
storm osprey
arctic liquid freezer 2?
violet plank
ye,think that's one of the few
coarse nimbus
Where's the motherboard? Oh behind that behemoth of a cooler
wanton carbon
beats almost any aio cooling
@violet plank ngl i think AIO'S are way better looking
i prefer AIO cooling in general
coarse nimbus
More expensive though
wanton carbon
yeah
true
i mean some are alright prices , NZXT do a 360mm one for like 110 pound
violet plank
air cooling = last forever and dead silent,aio last's max 3-5 years and you always got pump noise
coarse nimbus
Yeeeah..well dead silent might be a bit of a stretch depending on what aftermarket fans you get
violet plank
nah,dead silent is real if you go for noctua or bequiet
inaudible even at max rpm
unless your case is open and you put your ears near it 
violet plank
by doing so you fuck up your airflow
well if you have any
you got that super mini case right?
wanton carbon
okay right next to it , it doesn’t sound as quiet
but when I’m at my chair it is quiet
violet plank
you always want to have positive air pressure in a case
wanton carbon
so I should keep the side panel on ?
violet plank
yes
storm osprey
i dont think theres anything detrimental other than more dust right?
coarse nimbus
Why would you keep your side panel off?
storm osprey
should be better thermals
violet plank
you can get higher temps with an open side panel,as weird as it sounds
you destroy almost any airflow with it
without
wanton carbon
my temps become hotter with the side panel on
that’s why I left it off because my temps on my gpu used to hit 80
violet plank
well your case is really tiny and you only got 2 fans
and your radiator is way to small actually
storm osprey
theres a ton of variables, but i would imagine theres less situations where temps suffer with side panel off
violet plank
it's only a 120mm radiator
wanton carbon
ik
violet plank
with push/pull
wanton carbon
because it’s all I can fit
wanton carbon
I do wanna get a bigger case tho if I can get one that fits my motherboard
violet plank
guess if i had your case/setup i might let the panel open myself
wanton carbon
i do have a case already thats in the garage
but i think the mobo i have rn is too small for that case
violet plank
the other problem might be that your radiator is not above your pump
storm osprey
storm osprey
standard mid tower build with air coolers
violet plank
he has an itx case
wanton carbon
ig it works fine for now , but about january 2022 im probs gonna start building a new pc
violet plank
no worries if it works
wanton carbon
thats my cpu cooler
its pretty good , but its the first AIO i have ever had
so idk whats good or not
https://digitalpromo.co.uk/cit-flash-pc-gaming-case-with-4x-argb-led-fans-tempered-glass-window.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwlID8BRAFEiwAnUoK1S4X5fheA7fN_0W8-tiI5e1HLyYKDJnCHK7E4wJHYAd49doMSravrRoCfH0QAvD_BwE @violet plank thats the case i have that is spair , well its similar to it
violet plank
the radiator surface is just way too small,that's it,you can't change that
simple physics
behold the power of noctua fans
wanton carbon
how can i check my cpu temps
wanton carbon
ty
violet plank
print screen and paste it into paint or whatever prog you're using for pic editing
wanton carbon
dont have any
violet plank
paint comes with windows
wanton carbon
oh
wanton carbon
no idea how to use this shit
violet plank
print screen -> paste into the prog -> select what you want -> cut -> image (create new empty image) -> paste again-> save as xxx.jpg
violet plank
👌
wanton carbon
is them temps fine ?
violet plank
does not show your cpu
wanton carbon
oh
violet plank
yes
coarse nimbus
Use snipping tool, drag the area you want to screen shot, Ctrl v in discord
storm osprey
Idk technical talk. All I care about is the FPS I see
And how much it cost relative to other cpus for said FPS.
molten coral
^
molten coral
I'm not that big of a nerd to listen to someone for 30 minutes talking about some CPUs
supple bane
im intested in TDP, price, performance, core count and clock speeds.
the rest is just unnecessary
storm osprey
Like intels 14nm++++++ does not deter me since it gets FPS at a decent (msrp) price.
coarse nimbus
yeah but with a voice like that he could read audio books for a living 
storm osprey
Download more google.
fallen harbor
latent light
Herkelman stressed that AMD didn't state which RX 6000 series GPU they used to run the benchmarks
It's obviously not the top performer
prime jasper
Why do you say it is not their top performer? From the clues I get from Nvidia, they seem to think Big Navi will perform between 3070-3080 somewhere (they priced 3080 decently, postponed 3070 launch and has an unreleased model between 3070 and 3080, also there will be 16gb/20gb versions of those cards).
coarse nimbus
the postponed 3070 launch wont be enough, shits gunna still instantly sell out 
eternal crescent
the play button on my bf4 in origin isn't there and steam routes bf4 to origin and origin says "redeem the key to unknown game" so idk what to do
I just wanna play the game I got only like a week ago
was there a patch in the middle of today?
I played this morning and it was fine but I tried playing about 5 hours ago and it didn't work
molten bramble
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storm osprey
yea i skimmed that article and dont see anything that suggests it wasnt their top tier gpu
unless they are gonna pull a 3080 to 3090 scenario where there IS better but its way more expensive
eternal crescent
the support hasn't done anything for me
that's why I thought someone here might have had the same issue as me
lethal pawn
is anyone having issues connecting to a battleield match tried both battleifld 5 and battlefield 1 and get the error message"connection to ea online timed out your network bandwith and/or network latency may not meet the requirmnts for this game"
latent light
magic latch
can i run bf1 with i5-6200u n geforce 940mx with 8 gigs ram?
latent light
@magic latch even with lowest settings, you're gonna be playing at ~30 fps with quite a bit of stuttering
It's gonna look worse and perform worse than consoles
magic latch
Ok i see, thx for the info
latent light
fallen harbor
anybody here uses rainmeter by any chance?
coarse nimbus
how much?
coarse nimbus
razer do be kinda cwimge though 
wanton carbon
in 10 years time they will defo be making toasters
he u seen the cases they now sell , ATX CASE - £200 and the MINI ATX - £170
lolll
tardy rivet
I installed battlefield V but not sure if there's anything to troubleshoot the non-stop screen freezes while playing or launching
hard aurora
@tardy rivet see if you meet minimum requirements
tardy rivet
best pc sorry
fallen harbor
I installed battlefield V but not sure if there's anything to troubleshoot the non-stop screen freezes while playing or launching
@tardy rivet disable origin in-game overlay. Disable or Enable the Pre-rendering frame thingy.
tardy rivet
did already and already fixed the problem tyty
warm vector
How much RAM required for BF4?
molten bramble
First link on Google:
lilac surge
molten bramble
Game was designed to run at 60FPS, so...
violet plank
so there is a 900W bios for 3080 cards for some decent OC
wanton carbon
would i be able to run the new cod do you think , bare in mind i will have to play 1440p
ripe jungle
ehm, i had 0 issues before but
i enabled dx12, ingame, and it was stuttery so i was trying to disable, but everytime i log in its on
wanton carbon
im actually getting pissed off with this shitty little noise in my FUCKING HEADSET
nothing on youtube works
the ammount of bullshit computers take is stupid
@violet plank do you know how to stop this shit
i see what ones i need to update but the website im using i need to pay for them to stop it
which im not doing
fallen harbor
would i be able to run the new cod do you think , bare in mind i will have to play 1440p
at what framerate?
wanton carbon
would u say medium settings ?
fallen harbor
what framerate do you expect to have
fallen harbor
and you got 1660super and i5 9400f?
cant remember exactly
you could try playing warzone (or the actual game if you have it) and see what frame rate you get at 1440p on different quality settings. I don't think cold war cod will require significantly more than cod mw
wanton carbon
i got like 60-70 on warzone
but i play near enough max settings i think
if i can play medium and get about 75+ then i will be happy enough
i dont rlly think i will care too much about the graphics as its cod and the maps are not big like bfv
and you got 1660super and i5 9400f?
@fallen harbor yeah i do
coarse nimbus
I mean have you seen the specs for cyberpunk?
lime raft
Meanwhile bf5 recommended for online play is a 2070
wanton carbon
but bf5 is bigger and more detailed then cod
lime raft
Na not true
Also totally not more complicated and so
Imagine if thr cod fanbase heard what you just said
You would made them upset
wanton carbon
if i can get 75+fps on ultra settings on bfv surley i could get about 80 on medium for cod
supple bane
Meanwhile bf5 recommended for online play is a 2070
@lime raft wtf no it isnt lmao
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supple bane
It's a gtx 1060
wanton carbon
what do u think about me being able to run cod cold war ? @supple bane
supple bane
I have no idea
supple bane
It will run the next bf
wanton carbon
so if i get cod for this year , that should be up to november 2021 and then at the start of 2022 i can start gathering parts for a new build
oh will i
wouldnt it only be medium or low settings tho ?
as i play 1440 p
lime raft
BATTLEFIELD V RECOMMENDED COMPETITIVE SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
it says that
@supple bane
lime raft
or for people that are really competive about there stats in general?
supple bane
No
You can do that with a lot less than a 2070
You can easily top a leaderboard with a gtx 1060 at 70 fps
ashen mist
Is bfv still $20 on steam?
lime raft
i mean how many people atm getting a 1440 144hz?
a lot, i think its almost getting standard now
supple bane
I mean sure, all I'm saying is the statement you said is straight up wrong. A 2070 is not recommended for online play
I have a 2070, and I can tell you you can play that game with a hell of a lot less
wanton carbon
would my gpu be an example ?
wanton carbon
oh isnt it
ashen mist
Is bfv still $20 on steam?