technology

[kind kiln]

suprising

[supple bane]

i kinda have a hard time believing that

[glossy plinth]

overclock?

[kind kiln]

Yeah, I didn't believe him either

Until I saw it

Yeah, OC'd

[supple bane]

on a gtx 1060, i used to get 75 on 1080p LOW

[kind kiln]

He OC'd everything he could

[supple bane]

and the 1060 is slightly faster than the 970

so im gonna say he has the resolution scale down or something

[glossy plinth]

i only get 80-90 fps with a r7 3700x and 5700xt but idk if maps affect performance

all ultra

[kind kiln]

LOW? I get 70FPS on R9 270 (not even 270X, lmao) and i5 3570 in 1080p

bruh

And no OC

[supple bane]

yeah and my performance was bang on for a 1060

[kind kiln]

bang on? I don't quite understand

[supple bane]

wait no sorry, i got 90 ish on low, and that 75 was medium

this was a long time ago

[kind kiln]

I have 65FPS on medium

[wanton carbon]

i thought a 1060 was an alright card

[kind kiln]

Looks like i5 3570 bottlenecks R9 270

xd

Because performance on low and medium is really similar

[jagged lintel]

Does anyone know how to fix the getting kicked by punkbuster thing?

[kind kiln]

More info...

[wanton carbon]

what bf

[jagged lintel]

ive looked in System.msc and it doesnt show up

bf4

[kind kiln]

Also this isn't tech support

[storm osprey]

doesnt that mean you got banned for cheating or something?

[jagged lintel]

of sorry, its the closet thing in the dc to it i thought

no

[wanton carbon]

try and restart ur game

[jagged lintel]

i have, nvrmind

[wanton carbon]

do u have it on origin or steam

[jagged lintel]

steam

[kind kiln]

You installed any "addons"?

[jagged lintel]

nah

[wanton carbon]

someone said how to stop it yesterday

[kind kiln]

like reshade or something

[wanton carbon]

@supple bane was it u who knew what to do

[kind kiln]

Might want to reinstall it

[jagged lintel]

ok

ill try that

thanks

[kind kiln]

reinstall punkbuster

ofc

[fallen harbor]

guys guysss

i got a question

[wanton carbon]

hi ando

[fallen harbor]

enlo

can a pci express bottleneck be, like, idk how to ask this, a very big bottleneck?

[storm osprey]

no

[fallen harbor]

my sister has an i7 3770 with a 750ti and i was thinking she could use a better gpu

like idk a 1650 super maybe

but the mobo is old as heck

the cpu too

the cpu is old but rather decent tbh

[storm osprey]

cpu is still decent for modest games, its at least 4c8t

[fallen harbor]

at least for her standards

yeah

would you recommend putting a 1650s there?

or something else

[storm osprey]

i dont see a problem with it, if you are getting a performance loss it should be minimal, although ive only really followed pc gaming since pcie gen 3

which gen 3 to 4 is like a 1% difference

so i cant imagine gen 2 (if that mb is even gen2) would really cause any problems

the videos im finding show roughy a 1% difference from gen 2 to gen 3 as well

so yea, just slap whatever decent gpu in there that you can, assuming psu is up to task

[fallen harbor]

amazing, ty

psu is shit though

:(

would have to buy another too

it's holding on to a stupid and disgusting thermaltake tr2

[storm osprey]

whats wattage and rating?

[fallen harbor]

600w but it's not actual 600w

it's like, divided into two

or whatever

[storm osprey]

uhhhh what?

[fallen harbor]

the actual wattage sent onto the 12v channel is like 200

or actually less

lemme google its specs

hmm hard to see the numbers

dont you hate it how hard it is to find these specs of some psus

[storm osprey]

idk shit about psu specs honestly, i just trust the guys in one of my discords for psu purchases

[fallen harbor]

i also hate googling on this 2gb dram ddr2 pc

[storm osprey]

it seems like a decent budget psu

but this was alreased like 7 years ago too

[fallen harbor]

i cant remember if ive been using it since 2013 or 2015

either answer is old anyway

[storm osprey]

ehhh, if it works it works

i imagine if it was to fail it would just be of old age

ive only known a few psus die of old age and they didnt take out any other components

[fallen harbor]

found a better quality pic

im not sure why this one in particular has a v1 and v2

in the 12v channel

either way, 12x23 = 276w

i am almost sure that's the actual wattage sent to both the cpu and gpu

[storm osprey]

🤷 ive not heard anything about that

[fallen harbor]

unless both 12v channels are "merged"

making a total of 516w

which would be nice i guess

i also dont know much about psus tbh

and few people seem to know about them, at least when it comes to people that like or know about hardware, beacuse it's the most analog part of the pc

idk shit about psu specs honestly, i just trust the guys in one of my discords for psu purchases
can you ask them what's the actual full wattage of this psu to them pretty please? 👉 👈

[fallen harbor]

do you guys think dual channel can be better than single channel for basic office work?

for microsoft office n stuff

[supple bane]

yeah single channel is fine for that

[molten coral]

No need for dual channel with simple office work

[fallen harbor]

kk

[supple bane]

My file server is single channel and you wouldnt be able to tell

[wanton carbon]

okay

so i have a problem

somehow

on my ssd i only have 5gb storage left

[storm osprey]

wow

[wanton carbon]

idk how tho

[fallen harbor]

download windirstat

tells you all the stuff u have in it

in a nice and comfy and visualized way

[wanton carbon]

okay

[latent light]

@violet plank https://trademarks.justia.com/902/22/amd-infinity-90222772.html

People be like "ohmuhgawd infinity cache is real"

While I'm sitting here knowing of its existence for over a year

Infinity cache is supposed to appear in RDNA2 but will really shine in RDNA3

[raw turtle]

What is infinite cache?

Like cache but it has an infinite amount?

[latent light]

It's like infinity fabric on their CPUs

Infinity cache is AMD’s proprietary interconnect system architecture for GPU cores

It's supposed to make their GPUs less reliant on memory bandwidth by having a lot of L1 and L2 low latency cache

[raw turtle]

Cool thanks

[storm osprey]

oHh My GoD wHeRe Is YoUr AvAtAr?

[wanton carbon]

thats againts discord TOS i think you know 😂

[storm osprey]

hmmm really?

[wanton carbon]

i think so

maybe notn

[storm osprey]

i just did a text search and couldnt find anything on "images, pictures, avatar, or profile"

[molten coral]

[wanton carbon]

oh

might be me chatting waffle

[storm osprey]

i mean, you could still be right, i just couldnt find anything in 3 minutes of searching

[prime jasper]

might get bl3

[nocturne lion]

[wanton carbon]

@fallen harbor can u send me the link of that thingy you told me to get

i cant find it

[fallen harbor]

what thing

what did i say

i dont remember

i have bird memory

[wanton carbon]

that shows whats in my folders

on my ssd

download windirstat

[fallen harbor]

oh

it's literally the first result on google

just type that

https://www.fosshub.com/WinDirStat.html?dwl=windirstat1_1_2_setup.exe

[wanton carbon]

ty

[fallen harbor]

np

[wanton carbon]

it says onedrive

is using 130gb

@fallen harbor

oh i think its R6 which is

oh done it

it was rainbow six siege that was installed on the ssd

[fallen harbor]

nice

[wanton carbon]

anyone know why this guys google chrome is crashing all the time ? , he opens it and goes to search something like youtube it will will not stop loading

[storm osprey]

how much ram?

[wanton carbon]

he has 16gb

[storm osprey]

hot dwag

[wanton carbon]

nyphon

do u know any malware scans

he could use to check

[storm osprey]

negative

i really only know hardware in terms of its gaming performance and price to performance

anything software base i have barely above average knowledge

[wanton carbon]

oh ok

i am trying to think who would know one in here

[storm osprey]

off the top of my head isuni

[wanton carbon]

wait wtf

his cpu is at 100 percent utilization

and he isnt even playing any game

s

[fallen harbor]

do u know any malware scans
@wanton carbon malwarebytes

would also use ccleaner to clean the registry just in case

[prime jasper]

Jesus

Full load on nothing

That is very sus

[queen cosmos]

ANYONE FOR BF1

[wanton carbon]

!!lfg

[silent oasis]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[wanton carbon]

@queen cosmos ^^

[violet plank]

hmm, need some new true wireless headphones

Any advice,no budget

no apple

[worthy horizon]

Hey, I've been looking into getting a new PCIE m2 SSD and I'm seeing some tech mumbo jumbo that I'm not familiar with (Like 3D TLC, DRAM, MLC, QLC etc etc). What are the most important things to look for? I know dram is pretty important on SSDs but no clue about the others

Please @ me btw

[molten coral]

@violet plank Sony WH-1000XM4 or the bose quietcomfort 35

Both are fantastic

[violet plank]

gonna check them out thx

just get a tlc m.2 nvme,mlc is for pro and very expensive,qlc is slow as a mechanica hdd

and 3d just means layered @worthy horizon

fastest ones are the samsung 970 evo plus

for pcie 3.0

oh,forgot to mention in ear @molten coral

[molten coral]

oh in ear

Well I use the samsung galaxy buds and i'm pretty happy with them

Especially for the price

Think they are around 80 bucks at the moment

[violet plank]

bass is ok ?

[worthy horizon]

Okay thanks

[burnt spade]

0️⃣

[worthy horizon]

Oh and one more question

Write speeds

[violet plank]

galaxy buds + look nice,think i'm gonna give them a shot

[worthy horizon]

How important is it for everyday gaming?

[violet plank]

not at all

[worthy horizon]

I don't really do much besides gaming

[violet plank]

you don't need a m.2 ssd for gaming

[burnt spade]

[violet plank]

normal ssd will do

no speed difference at all

[burnt spade]

[worthy horizon]

Its more of I'm getting it for my windows+games

[violet plank]

m.2 is good for saving space

[burnt spade]

[violet plank]

stop spaming shit

[burnt spade]

Ok

[molten coral]

bass is ok ?
@violet plank I would say the bass is pretty good

[violet plank]

thx,gonna order them as soon as i see a discount,seem to be on a high price here atm

way higher than your 80€ at least

@storm osprey gonna replace the rgb fans with high airflow noctua chromax after all

[mild siren]

Mmm

[violet plank]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-trigger-graphics-card-gtx1080-nvidia-gif-7513660

[storm osprey]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ceo-geforce-rtx-3080-and-3090-shortages-to-last-until-2021

[molten coral]

feelsbadman

[storm osprey]

bigsad

[molten coral]

The computer store in my area only did get a handful of cards at the release

and he did get around 50 pre-orders so big F to the people who are last on the list

[storm osprey]

if only i wasnt bound to nvidia

[violet plank]

glad i changed to a freesync monitor

which is gsync compatible

[wanton carbon]

guys i fucked up getting 1440p moniters

i shouldve got 1080

[fallen harbor]

why

[wanton carbon]

because my pc will be less able to run games for longer then like 2 years

[fallen harbor]

what cpu and gpu u got

[wanton carbon]

i have the 1660

s

and a intel i5

[fallen harbor]

i am guessing i5 8400, 9400 or 10400

anyway yeah, 1080 wouldve probably been a better option

[wanton carbon]

9400 yeah

[fallen harbor]

although

youre fine with 1440p tbh

as for today

[wanton carbon]

yeah

[fallen harbor]

you should be able to run most games if not all at 60fps and 1440p

i dont think it's intrinsically a bad idea

[wanton carbon]

ig 1440p is good tho

[storm osprey]

@violet plank at the time i bought my monitor they were both locked to their gpus, pretty sure both sides wont let you cross sync unless you bought a monitor after a certain point

(i bought my monitor like 5 years ago)

[wanton carbon]

you should be able to run most games if not all at 60fps and 1440p
@fallen harbor would i be able to run cod cold war and bf6 ?

if i can then im fine

[storm osprey]

at 1440p low settings at 60 fps? maaaaaaybe?

[wanton carbon]

low

[supple bane]

no it would be more than that i think

[fallen harbor]

i am 99% sure you will be able to run them at high settings in 60fps and 1440p

worst case scenario, medium settings

[supple bane]

bf1 to bf5 was like a 20 fps drop

[storm osprey]

uhhhh.. i have a 1080 and atm low settings on bfv with 1440p i get around 100 fps

1080 is better than a 1660 super

[supple bane]

thats cuz of a cpu bottleneck tho

[violet plank]

(i bought my monitor like 5 years ago)
@storm osprey like my old one,same story

[supple bane]

you would get close to 120 with a better cpu

[molten coral]

BFV on low still looks good

[fallen harbor]

i have an i5 8400 and RX590. Both my CPU and GPU are a bit worse than yours and I run BFV at 100fps on ultra settings on 1080p. I dont think BF6 will be SO heavy that you will run the game at less than 60fps on 1440p

[supple bane]

what fps do you get on ultra ? @wanton carbon

[storm osprey]

1440p is a lot more demanding than i think you understand

[wanton carbon]

as long as i can play bf6 and cod world war then im fine because in like a year or 2 im gonna begin getting the case and shit

on ultra about 65-80

[violet plank]

i like people who play bfv in high/ultra settings,they are free kills

[fallen harbor]

y tho

[wanton carbon]

i like people who play bfv in high/ultra settings,they are free kills
@violet plank how

[violet plank]

cause you see enemies earlier with max low settings

[supple bane]

because playing on high and ultra decreases visibility and lowers fps

[violet plank]

and farther

[storm osprey]

i cant imagine a 1660super doing bf6 1440p with better than low settings

[wanton carbon]

ahhhh , i mean it take some things to load in for me too

[supple bane]

it will nyphon

im sure of it

[wanton carbon]

when im far

[fallen harbor]

as long as i can play bf6 and cod world war then im fine because in like a year or 2 im gonna begin getting the case and shit
The 1660super has always had this reputation of being "the 1080p king", almost viral i'd say. Pay attention to these things next time you choose your hardware to have the most reasonable combo

[storm osprey]

idk how you can be sure of that, unless its optimized like bf1

my slightly old cpu doesnt hinder me to the degree of having a worse gpu

[fallen harbor]

all bf games have been pretty well optimized

[storm osprey]

bfv took a huge drop in optimization compared to bf1

[fallen harbor]

what cpu you got nyphon?

[storm osprey]

4790

[supple bane]

like i said, on bf1 i dont remember exactly what it was but i think i got 110 fps on ultra, on bfv i get 80. so a 30 fps drop

[molten coral]

I'm expecting big things from BF6

[storm osprey]

dont forget bf6 is also going to be a "next gen" title

[supple bane]

by that same logic. he gets 70 fps on ultra, so im guessing around 30-40 fps

[wanton carbon]

i will play medium settings

i did play medium at the start of bfv

[storm osprey]

im willing to bet you will not maintain 60 fps at anything but low settings

[fallen harbor]

sell ur monitor and get a 1080p one ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm osprey]

and even then id be curious to see if you never dip below 60 at that point too

[wanton carbon]

sell ur monitor and get a 1080p one ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@fallen harbor might have to

[supple bane]

i wish you just asked someone before running and buying 2 of those crazy expensive monitors

[wanton carbon]

ik

[supple bane]

i bet you didnt even know that they have HDR and gsync

[wanton carbon]

wdym

ik they do

[supple bane]

are you using gsync ?

[storm osprey]

you bought 2 of the same monitors?

[wanton carbon]

yes

[storm osprey]

oof

[wanton carbon]

yaa

[storm osprey]

you got 2 gsync hdr 1440p monitors?

thats gotta be expensive

[supple bane]

they are the razer ones

[wanton carbon]

dont ask

FUCK

[storm osprey]

razer raptor?

[fallen harbor]

rich boy

you guys dont understand, he needed those in order to play minecraft

[wanton carbon]

yes nyphon

[storm osprey]

jesus christ, those are 700 bucks usd for one

[fallen harbor]

hey guys do you think my i9 9900k and 2080ti will run minecraft? because I was thinking of selling this crappy old pc and get something like a 3090 or whatever :/

[wanton carbon]

you guys dont understand, he needed those in order to play minecraft
@fallen harbor huh

[storm osprey]

lul

no that build is borderline worthless

[prime jasper]

dude

[supple bane]

it was a joke, saying that the monitors you have are completely overkill

[storm osprey]

ill give you my switch to replace it though

[prime jasper]

i got a 3600...

1660 oc

[wanton carbon]

it was a joke, saying that the monitors you have are completely overkill
@supple bane ohhhhh

[prime jasper]

and 16gb of ram at 3000 speed because for the 10 dollars 200 mhz isnt worth it

the difference is negligable

[storm osprey]

10 dollars is negligable

[prime jasper]

i was beggining to run low on budget

[wanton carbon]

do u lot play 1080p ?

[fallen harbor]

i do ye

[supple bane]

i play at 1440

[prime jasper]

1080p is enough

[fallen harbor]

i never went beyond 1080p. Too much money required to make it worth it

[prime jasper]

saying you need more than 1440p is also known as having a severe case of doo doo brain.

[wanton carbon]

its thundering

OMG

[supple bane]

saying you need more than 1440p is also known as having a severe case of doo doo brain.
@prime jasper depends

[storm osprey]

doesnt 3000 to 3200 give you like 2-3 fps more?

[prime jasper]

no

[storm osprey]

for 10 bucks might as well

[supple bane]

i dont think so nyphon lol

[prime jasper]

it doesnt

[supple bane]

the difference between 2133 and 3600 is like 3 fps

if that

[prime jasper]

ryzen 3600 with 3000 ram speed is still amazing

[fallen harbor]

ryzen 5 3600 is p good

[storm osprey]

all the benchmarks ive looked at show roughly 2 fps difference

[prime jasper]

the difference between 3000 and 4000 is noticable but DO YOU HAVE THAT MONEY

for a 4000mhz ram kit

also 2 fps isnt a lot

if its above 75 im good

[fallen harbor]

im here chilling with my 2666mhz

[prime jasper]

which cpu??

[fallen harbor]

i5 8400

[storm osprey]

3600 cpu

[supple bane]

ok... i take that back

[storm osprey]

yea

theres a difference

though that one is extreme

most games its like a couple of fps difference

[prime jasper]

"If they are similar price, go for the faster RAM. The difference between 3000 and 3200 is small though, you will not notice. Be sure to check mobo supports that RAM at that speed."

[wanton carbon]

does a 2060 run 1440 p fine enough for next gen games ?

[storm osprey]

the difference is small, you basically said there is no difference

2 fps difference is small difference

[prime jasper]

i said the difference is negligable

not none

[storm osprey]

but for 10 bucks there really shouldnt be a concern

[prime jasper]

its just so small you wont notice

[storm osprey]

you wont notice a 2 fps difference

[supple bane]

does a 2060 run 1440 p fine enough for next gen games ?
@wanton carbon if you are thinking of upgrading to a 2060. dont bother. the 1660 super is really close to the 2060

[prime jasper]

listen in order to lower the prices i had to buy USED PARTS

[wanton carbon]

oh

[storm osprey]

but you straight up denied theres a 2 fps difference

[prime jasper]

my budget was already going to shit

i was not going to spend an extra 10 dollars for a 2 fps difference

[fallen harbor]

does a 2060 run 1440 p fine enough for next gen games ?
wouldn't say so. If you want to upgrade and make 1440p worth it I'd recommend something that has a power similar to a 2070 and beyond. But I'd just play on 1080p if I was you. Your current pc is already pretty good

[prime jasper]

thats 5 dollars per frame

[storm osprey]

thats really not a lot

[prime jasper]

listen in order to lower the prices i had to buy USED PARTS
my budget was already going to shit
i was not going to spend an extra 10 dollars for a 2 fps difference

[storm osprey]

either way, theres a difference, probably 2 fps on average, price difference is negligible, and performance difference is negligible

[wanton carbon]

wait can the new consoles run 1440 p ?

[prime jasper]

probably

actually yes

they can

i think it can go well above 2k

[wanton carbon]

because if so i could give my brother one of these moniters

[storm osprey]

maybe for modern games the speed difference actually makes more of a difference than i thought

[wanton carbon]

cuz he ordered the new xbox

[prime jasper]

the new consoles have similar specs to near high end pcs

so id guess 4k

[storm osprey]

per the benchmarks im seeing 3000 vs 3200 is normally at minimum 3 fps gain, sometimes up to 5

[prime jasper]

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x

*"TRUE 4K
Gaming

UP TO 120
Frames per second

8K HDR
High Dynamic Range"*

[storm osprey]

idk they claimed 4k with last gen and almost everything was checkerboared 4k

[prime jasper]

"12 TFLOPS
OF POWER
The 12 teraflops of processing power housed in the system on a chip (SOC) work with AMD’s Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures to result in worlds that demand a closer look."

[supple bane]

yeah i mean my pc can run 8k if i lower the graphical quality to pig shit poor... saying it can "run 4k" doesnt really mean much

tell my it runs 4k with 100% resolution scale and relatively high graphical quality, then ill be interested

[prime jasper]

it can do 4k 120fps

[storm osprey]

pretty sure there are going to be asterisks involved with that

[supple bane]

exactly

[storm osprey]

like 1080p does 120 fps

[supple bane]

saying "4k" doesnt mean anything.

[prime jasper]

"On Xbox Series X, enjoy 4K resolution at 60FPS in campaign and greatly reduced load times creating seamless gameplay that ushers in the next generation of gaming."

[storm osprey]

i highly doubt they are gonna push 4k 120 fps because there are very VERY limited 4k 120hz tvs out there

[prime jasper]

thats for halo inf

[supple bane]

it might be 4k yes

[storm osprey]

so yea, 4k at 60fps...

[supple bane]

but what settings have they dropped to make that happen

[prime jasper]

"4K at up to 120FPS: Requires supported content and display. Use on Xbox Series X as content becomes available."

[supple bane]

2% less resolution scale here, and slightly less texture quality there will make a high resolution playable when it wasnt before

[prime jasper]

at up to

yeah on quake 2 rtx

4k120fps

[storm osprey]

whats the point? theres hardly any 4k 120hz tvs out there

[prime jasper]

THIS IS A JOKE THEY DIDNT ACTUALLY LIST QUAKE II RTX

[storm osprey]

no one is commenting on your joke...

[prime jasper]

dont care
didnt ask

[storm osprey]

alright, youre fucking annoying

[prime jasper]

id rather clarify

better safe than sorry

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-gif-7357037

[prime jasper]

"oh no he huwt my feewings"

id advise you dont start unnecessary shitstorms

[storm osprey]

grade school meme tier levels of responses now, fun

[prime jasper]

granty facebook 40 y.o. mom???

[storm osprey]

considering all i said was that i wasnt responding to your joke and you replied like a snarky prick...

[prime jasper]

woah.... never looked at it that way

im 9 and this is deep

[supple bane]

granty facebook 40 y.o. mom???
minions are great. get on my level

[prime jasper]

i am physically bruhing

[supple bane]

k

[storm osprey]

im gonna give this chat 10 minutes in the hope real stops replying

[prime jasper]

sorry nyphon... took it way too seriously

oh FUCK YOU

now im going to be consistently active in spite

[wanton carbon]

omg

im so dumb

[prime jasper]

?

what is it

[fallen harbor]

the heck happened here

[wanton carbon]

idk

what is it
@prime jasper everything

the heck happened here
@fallen harbor how long would u say until i need to upgrade my pc ?

[prime jasper]

i highly doubt they are gonna push 4k 120 fps because there are very VERY limited 4k 120hz tvs out there
@storm osprey theres the lg nanocell and thats literally it

still dont know

whats wrong with rock

i want to help

@wanton carbon

[wanton carbon]

because i got a 1440p moniter

and i wont rlly be able to run bf6 on good enough settings

[fallen harbor]

@fallen harbor how long would u say until i need to upgrade my pc ?
if you are fine with 1080p gaming youll be fine for like 7 years

[wanton carbon]

what about 1440

[fallen harbor]

probably 3 years idk

not sure

i never played 1440p

[wanton carbon]

if i can get about 2-3 years then im alright

[fallen harbor]

depends on how much fps is enough for you

[wanton carbon]

oh

[prime jasper]

refreshrate?

[fallen harbor]

2-3 years if you dont want to go below 60fps

you will be able to run games per se for more than 10 years

[prime jasper]

whats your monitors hz]

[wanton carbon]

144

[fallen harbor]

you got a monitor for a very high end pc

but your pc isnt very high end

it's a very decent pc, dont get me wrong

i am happy with mine and yours is even better

but the monitor you got is for a pc that fires laser beams that destroy galaxies

and your pc is a combat jet

[prime jasper]

i have a 2060 without rtx cores

its called a 1660ti

[fallen harbor]

please stop saying the 1660ti performs the same as 2060 without rtx cores

it's simply not true

the 2060 is intrinsically faster than the 1660ti, rtx cores aside

[wanton carbon]

i mean i am defo gonna be getting a new pc with a 2070s + card

[fallen harbor]

when did you get your current pc rock?

[wanton carbon]

like 6 months ago

[fallen harbor]

you really do have money

care to share with this little poor fella?

[wanton carbon]

um

[fallen harbor]

i can cook you food

and call you daddy if you want

[wanton carbon]

do u know how old i even am

[fallen harbor]

oof

shit

time to abandon ship

[wanton carbon]

im 14

https://tenor.com/view/bald-nonce-im-gonna-lose-ma-job-gif-15248471

[fallen harbor]

ok, regardless of your age, you do have a lot of money, or your parents give you a lot of money, whatever you wanna put it

[prime jasper]

same

[fallen harbor]

you aren't supposed to upgrade your pc every 2 or 3 years, but every 6 years or more

[prime jasper]

dude i have a ryzen 5 3600 and whenever i think of bf6 i get paranoid

[fallen harbor]

what gpu you got real?

[prime jasper]

and a 1660ti*

[fallen harbor]

you will run bf6 in a perfectly playable way

you are getting paranoid over nothing

[prime jasper]

oh and 1660 ti not oc

i dont wanna void warranties... my last pc got hit by a power surge

[wanton carbon]

i didnt go all out on my setup , i got a 30 pound usb mic which is good , my mouse mat was like 5 pound , and my headset was like 20 pounds

[fallen harbor]

if i just learned anything from the two of you is that you are too young and aren't used to jump from one generation of hardware/software to another, but you both have already VERY strong computers. None of you need to upgrade their god damn PC. You don't know what you have

[prime jasper]

dude

i used to have

celeron

256mb of ram

and some unknown gpu

[fallen harbor]

then what the fuck are you going paranoid at about?

your current pc is x99236929369293692 times faster than that

[prime jasper]

i know

but looking at how demanding new games are getting

[fallen harbor]

its like you switched a spear for a nuke

[prime jasper]

yeah

oh and i forgot to say

[fallen harbor]

and were like ooh noo! idk if this nuke will be enough to defeat those natives!

[storm osprey]

1660ti is worse than 1660 super right? which 1660 super is worse than 2060...

[fallen harbor]

no, ti is better afaik

[supple bane]

ti is better than super

[storm osprey]

ohhh, now i remember, they are almost the same, but super is way cheaper

[supple bane]

1660<1660 super<1660ti <= 2060

[storm osprey]

or was at launch

[prime jasper]

after that i had a used falling apart laptop that had 4gb of ram, an i5 4th gen and a gt 555m that who knows what happened but it stopped working and was replaced with an iGPU

[fallen harbor]

children with rich parents getting a good pc and already thinking of upgrading it puts me in a really bad mood

[wanton carbon]

omg

dont call me a rich boy

please

[prime jasper]

my grandparents are the best for buying me this pc

[fallen harbor]

but thats what you are

[storm osprey]

yea 1660 ti vs super is within 5 fps of eachother, but super was 50 bucks cheaper

[prime jasper]

my mother would have never thought of getting me a pc

[wanton carbon]

my nan bought me these 2 moniters for me , i saved up and got rid of my console for a pc

[fallen harbor]

which makes you a rich boi

[wanton carbon]

and my peripherals was for my birthday

[supple bane]

yeah but where did you get that money you saved up?

[prime jasper]

i have a 1080p 75hz monitor from lg

[supple bane]

let me guess, pocket money

[prime jasper]

sexy thin bezel

[fallen harbor]

I am not rich!! I just am 14 years old and saved up to get a gaming pc! also my grandmother gave me two 700 usd monitors!!!

[cyan lake]

1400$ from a relative for pc stuff

[wanton carbon]

2 tv's my ps4 , my games and other things i cant remember

[prime jasper]

dude

i have a cheap mouse from a bookstore

[wanton carbon]

and then i already had savings

[prime jasper]

and a cheap keyboard

|||

[fallen harbor]

you are very privileged kid, accept it, and dont get me wrong, you aren't guilty of it, i am not blaming you of having access to all this stuff, it's actually pretty nice and I wish I was in your place, but dont ever deny you are a rich boy lmao

how the fuck does a 14 year old get to save money for a pc

your mother gave you 50 usd every time you kissed her?

[prime jasper]

my close family... were barely getting by but my grandparents are living great

[violet plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409810962137219082/763071145061646356/image0.jpg?width=833&height=1014

[fallen harbor]

the most money my parents ever gave me was 3usd :)

[violet plank]

new iphones inc

[wanton carbon]

i dont wanna say "YEAHHHH look at meeeee i can get anything i ask for and i have expensive shit" because there are people who will look at me and think "look at this flexing bitch"

[fallen harbor]

let's just say less than 1% people in the world have access to one 144hz 1440p razer monitor

less than 0,1% id say

you got two

[wanton carbon]

ik people who have 3

in the razer discord

[fallen harbor]

those people belong to the 0,1% yes

[wanton carbon]

yup

[fallen harbor]

dont upgrade your pc in 3 years

btw

if i was you id change one of the two monitors

for a 1080p one

and use that one for gaming

dont sell it though

change it in the store you got it from if you can

[prime jasper]

why not 1440p gaming and 1080 side?

like this... is a bruh momento

[fallen harbor]

if you cant, then just get an average 1080p 60hz monitor and youre good

[wanton carbon]

i wont sell it as i could use it when im older for 1440 p

gaming

[fallen harbor]

why not 1440p gaming and 1080 side?
because his pc isnt good enough to make his 1440p 144hz monitor worth it that much

id just buy a cheap 1080p 60hz monitor if i was him

but not now

you actuallly dont need to buy anything

you got all you need

if you struggle to reach 60fps on 1440p, just change your resolution to 1080p

[wanton carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678344017414455316/761063616072908810/image1.png

[fallen harbor]

t-three?

[wanton carbon]

thsts the girl in the discord

who has 3

[fallen harbor]

ah

girl on discord

[wanton carbon]

that isnt mine

[fallen harbor]

yeah i can see that

[wanton carbon]

i wouldnt buy a razer light thing

or their mice mats

[prime jasper]

dude

i just search specs i want for things and sort by cheapest

i want a 1ms response time mouse with 5 buttons? i put that in a filter and sort by price rising

[storm osprey]

the rgb meme builds

[wanton carbon]

if you struggle to reach 60fps on 1440p, just change your resolution to 1080p
@fallen harbor its blurry tho

[storm osprey]

yea fuck 27" 1080p in general

especially fuck it on a 1440p monitor

[molten bramble]

I had that monitor.... curved 27" @ 1080p/240Hz... horrible.

[wanton carbon]

i tired it earlier on bfv

and it was naf

[molten bramble]

My 1440 monitors are much better, if only at 144Hz.

[wanton carbon]

mine is 1440 144hz but my pc isnt good enough to run it hydra

[molten bramble]

Saw the i5 comment, but the 1660Ti I have runs them fine.

I have an i9-9900K though.

64Gb DDR4

[wanton carbon]

i can run it rn

but bf6 i dont think i will be able to run

[molten bramble]

Not ultra settings, but it runs okay on mine.

[wanton carbon]

i can play any game out rn apart from high ram games

[molten bramble]

I turn a bunch of the visual junk off myself.

[wanton carbon]

i can run ultra on bfv

[mild siren]

What you using your pc for?

Why the 65 gb ddr4?

[wanton carbon]

but i get about 65-80 fps

[molten bramble]

@mild siren Production, modeling, gaming w/ custom assets.

[mild siren]

Ah

Just as I thought

[molten bramble]

I was hoping to push 128Gb through the system, but can't find a DIMM that's affordable enough.

[wanton carbon]

hyras pass me some ram

i have 8gb HAHA

[molten bramble]

It'd run me like $3K for that much in this system, not worth.

8Gb? Ouch

[wanton carbon]

yah

[molten bramble]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[wanton carbon]

i wanna get 16gb for xmas tho

[molten bramble]

Barely making the cut.

[wanton carbon]

i acctually run with less then 8gb ram

tbf

[prime jasper]

i destroyed the sysreq

[mild siren]

Why 128 GB

Im sorry but thats overkill for most work

[prime jasper]

128gb is sometimes barely enough for some heavy workloads actually

the app is called flow correct?

[molten bramble]

ML/AI eats up a lot of memory for neural networks

[mild siren]

Yes

[prime jasper]

hydra when will i get regular?

[mild siren]

But what is out system overall

[prime jasper]

im active here every day

[mild siren]

Putting that amount of ram might be usefull

[prime jasper]

also paradox... please dont torture yourself

[wanton carbon]

im active here every day
@prime jasper you have sent 1k messages

[prime jasper]

unless you actually like fo76

[mild siren]

But not for most cases

[molten bramble]

But what is out system overall
@mild siren What?

[mild siren]

Nevermind

I meant your

[molten bramble]

Ah

[mild siren]

Just leave the topic

[wanton carbon]

i think he means what are ur specs

[mild siren]

I lost interest in a second oof

He

[prime jasper]

paradox

[mild siren]

I wouldnt torture myself

I do like FO76

[prime jasper]

do you actually like FO76?

[molten bramble]

I thought I explained that earlier? Production environment is #1 priority.

[prime jasper]

alright then

i dont want to be tposed on by a raider

my dignity!

[mild siren]

@molten bramble Thats why I said

Leave topic

Im in autistic mode

@prime jasper Its a decent game

[molten bramble]

Game talk needs to move to #general

[mild siren]

I aint talking about it though

[prime jasper]

i brought it up

[mild siren]

I only answered with a couple of words

[prime jasper]

but alright... ill move on

[molten bramble]

Did I single anyone out?

[prime jasper]

so anyways

[mild siren]

No lol

Im not being hostile or anything

[prime jasper]

when should i upgrade?

[molten bramble]

Upgrade what?

[prime jasper]

my compootor

[mild siren]

All I said is i answered with a couple of words, and moving to another channel for that would be dumb

What do you have rn?

[molten bramble]

That's a pretty vague question.

[prime jasper]

ryzen 5 3600
gtx 1660 oc
16gb of ram

[molten bramble]

Couldn't tell you, I don't speak AMD.

[prime jasper]

i always say 1660ti for simplicity because it performs with 1 less fps on newer titles

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/intels-next-gen-16-core32-thread-alder-lake-chip-appears-online/

[molten bramble]

@latent light does I think

[latent light]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16142/ddr5-is-coming-first-64gb-ddr5-4800-modules-from-sk-hynix

Single stick of DDR5 RAM is 64GB

[mild siren]

Mmm

Future is now

[molten bramble]

DDR5 is supposed to have a different pin layout right?

[latent light]

288 pins just like ddr4

[prime jasper]

DDR5 4800...

that is FUCKING FAST

[molten bramble]

Yes, but separated in a different location.

Meaning, folks won't be able to throw it into the DDR4 slot.

[latent light]

Apparently a single stick of DDR5 can run in dual channel mode lol

[mild siren]

Lmao

As I said

Future is now

Amazing stuff is appearing every month

Just look at 3000 series for example

[prime jasper]

anandtech is reputable

[mild siren]

Decent leap

[prime jasper]

whatever is said on anandtech and igors lab is 99.9999% true

[latent light]

8400 MHz on DDR5

[covert tapir]

I keep trying to launch BFH and everytime i get to the website itself and click join server it says its playing but the game wont pop open it just brings me back to my desktop or origin, any fixes to this?

[true cradle]

so in other words

[prime jasper]

specs?

[true cradle]

i cant swap ddr5 with my ddr4 in my laptop

not because of the pins

but because of the slot?

[prime jasper]

it has the same amount of pins but diff layout

[true cradle]

yeah

same pins

different slot area

[violet plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/96037009314836480/763087458082357268/ep77on0ughr51.png?width=524&height=1014

@supple bane @molten coral

[wanton carbon]

my cables are actaully managed so well

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-7-3700x-deal

[storm osprey]

those drives look dumb

[glossy plinth]

thats what my deskspace looks like rn

cable management is hard

or im just lazy

[molten coral]

my cable management is pretty clean now

[glossy plinth]

mines a mess

idk how to hide a 50ft ethernet cable

[latent light]

Based on Ashes of the Singularity benchmark results, the Ryzen 7 5800X is 22% faster than the i9-10900K in single-core and 15% faster in the multi-core.

[storm osprey]

i call bs amd takes single core performance at all, let alone 22%

[coarse nimbus]

Blue Man utterly ruined now..2020 has no end

[wanton carbon]

isnt that a good cpu ?

[latent light]

@storm osprey it's entirely possible

Zen3 is a complete architecture overhaul

Zen, Zen+ and Zen2 were the same microarchitecture but Zen3 is gonna be new and completely different

Also Ashes of the Singularity can never give fake results

So there is indeed an AMD CPU out there that is significantly faster than the 10900K

[coarse nimbus]

10.9 is just an overpriced piece of junk now

[mild siren]

Junk?

No

Overpriced?

Maybe

[storm osprey]

sure its possible, but i still doubt it

i hope so, im getting zen 3 no matter what, but i still doubt they are suddenly going to get what? 35% single core performance gains?

[fallen harbor]

Apparently a single stick of DDR5 can run in dual channel mode lol
what

[wanton carbon]

so i have some good news

@fallen harbor i put my resolution onto 1200 and i got like an extra 40 fps and it felt like i was playing 1440

might even be an extra 50 fps

[latent light]

@fallen harbor yeah they're putting dual channel support on individual DDR5 modules but I think it may only work in HEDT/server systems

I could see it working with future Threadripper and Xeon

[fallen harbor]

oic

[storm osprey]

REEEEE

[fallen harbor]

what

[latent light]

If AMD and Intel were to put quad-channel memory support in standard PCs soon with DDR5 that would be cool

[torn scaffold]

Is CPU utilization at 100% in BF1 normal ? Or does it just happen with low end CPUs

[wanton carbon]

utilization should be at 100 for any game im pretty sure

[torn scaffold]

For CPUs, it shouldn't be

[storm osprey]

if cpu is at 100% that means you are cpu bottleneck

your gpu should be 100%

[fallen harbor]

^

[drifting summit]

hey so just got bf5 did research to see if my acer nitro 5 could run it 8thg en i5 clocked at 3.8ghz gtx 1050ti black ultra 8gb ddr4 ram

my gpu at all utra settings 24 percent usage

frames 21

HELP

tried turning all settings to low maxed out at 31 frames with tearing and stuttering gpu at 11 percent cpu at 19 and ram at 91 percent usage

also ill mention my disk was at 100 percent but i play games like seige and overwatch with 100 percent disk usage just fine

i love this game so much and my pc should be able to run a marathon around this game at medium settings someone please help with nonexistent frames

[lofty light]

I can immediately tell you you won't be running marathons around bfv sadly, it's a very resource intensive game and even with top tier specs it's still a lot

The disk usage may be part of it if bfv utilises things from there more frequently

[fallen harbor]

also ill mention my disk was at 100 percent but i play games like seige and overwatch with 100 percent disk usage just fine
this isn't just fine, you are having performance issues in overwatch and siege too just not as annoying as in bfv so you probably dont notice

I can immediately tell you you won't be running marathons around bfv sadly, it's a very resource intensive game and even with top tier specs it's still a lot
an i5 8xxx with a 1050ti and 8gb ram should be able to run the game at more than 60fps on 1080p in low settings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twv4BXqvKlI

here's with an i5 7400

[warm vector]

is BFV going to be on the PS5

or on the other new consoles?

[lofty light]

I'd assume so

Seeing as there isn't a new one coming out any time soon

[mild siren]

Ofc @warm vector

Backwards support for PS5 is pretty much confirmed

[lofty light]

And the Xbox is basically a PC so I'd be shocked if they didn't backwards compatible

[mild siren]

Yeah but didnt they say something about that @lofty light

Like only specific games being compatible

[lofty light]

Did they

[mild siren]

I think

[lofty light]

Might just be gamepass stuff

[mild siren]

Somewhere around end of august or start of september

No no I remember it being compatibility

[latent light]

RX 6900XT will have 128MB of L2 cache

5700XT only has 4MB in comparison

RTX 3090 has 6MB

[violet plank]

looks beautiful

gonna get one for sure if i can

after the clusterfuck launch of ampere i wouldn't want one even if could get one atm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/96037009314836480/763300997081595944/gux0o4ojzfr51.png

[supple bane]

[violet plank]

curious if nvidia kicks msi out as aib

wouldn't be the first time nvidia did this with an aib fucking around

in case you missed it

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-accused-of-selling-geforce-rtx-3080-on-ebay-at-much-higher-price-releases-a-statement

[strong breach]

interesting

[coarse nimbus]

How did they get access to stock they shouldn't have

Someone be doing something shady.... unless it's just the whole company being asses

[violet plank]

not the first time msi doing shady shit

like "saying" to techtubers not to release bad reviews of their products

[strong breach]

i don't think i've ever bought anything from MSI

seems like a good decision

[violet plank]

me neither

https://videocardz.com/newz/sony-publishes-playstation-5-teardown-video

holy shit that fan lol

huge af

i like it

[coarse nimbus]

Finally a console with good cooling??

[violet plank]

aye

[coarse nimbus]

That video must be deep fake

[mild siren]

lol

[violet plank]

time for some hardcore cooling

inaudible

[supple bane]

what happened to them crazy expensive metal ones you had?

[violet plank]

have to rma them

[supple bane]

how come ?

[violet plank]

all of them cause vibrations

[supple bane]

you have an o11 tho right?

[violet plank]

i guess the bearing is crap

[supple bane]

isnt it gonna be a bit ugly with non rgb fans ?

[violet plank]

got rgb on the top aio fans (3x),mb and ram

also got some spare led strips if i want more

maybe i get new lian li ones,maybe i just want my money back,dunno yet

but the bearings of mine are crap

https://linustechtips.com/main/uploads/monthly_2020_02/20200225_224123.jpg.e06068be65f9a3a46b745d2690f54c84.jpg

will look a bit like this but nicer since i still got the top aio

gonna change them on the weekend i guess

[wanton carbon]

your setup is nice

what dpi u play , mouse space seems smol

[supple bane]

thats not his setup

[violet plank]

not my setup

granty knows my setup better then myself

[supple bane]

r7 3700x, 1080ti, 32gb ram, rog motherboard. LG monitor, razer mouse.

i think

[violet plank]

yep,but i changed the mb

[supple bane]

oh.

[violet plank]

b550 asrock taichi now

[supple bane]

ah right, i remember now

[violet plank]

cause of the chipset fan

[wanton carbon]

ohh its not his

that R73700x seems so popular

[supple bane]

its the 5th top selling cpu

top ten cpu's in terms of popularity on amazon

[coarse nimbus]

Your fans aren't RGB??? How will you survive

[supple bane]

ikr

[wanton carbon]

oh its 300

in a future build i would go for a r7

but i probs wont OC

[storm osprey]

unless you need more cores theres no real reason for just gaming to get a 3700x over a 3600

[wanton carbon]

i would probs get a 7 series from AMD or INTEL as i wanna stream if my yt does good

[strong breach]

AMD is the way to go so no wonder

wonder what the intel GPU will be like

[violet plank]

my guess good server gpu,crap consumer gpu

[wanton carbon]

will it be expensive

[violet plank]

nobody knows

yet

https://www.amd.com/en/events/gaming-2020

[storm osprey]

ohhhh shit zen 3 tomorrow

[violet plank]

pray to the cpu gods there won't be any bots snatching everything like with nvidia

[storm osprey]

i think cpus get less hype but i can only hope its not a shit show

[violet plank]

me 2

[storm osprey]

as i plan on upgrading no matter what, like i did with 3080

but 3080 turned out to be great and low supply...

[violet plank]

gonna order a 5900x as soon as they are online at the shops

did you see the chart of that danish shop about the 3080?

ridiculous

[storm osprey]

negative

[violet plank]

https://videocardz.com/newz/danish-retailer-fulfiled-only-10-of-geforce-rtx-3080-preorders

[storm osprey]

jesus, i can only hope the danes are low priority for nvidia and are at least a more extreme case than other countries

though if i had to gauge by discord it seems like 1 in 30 people online have gotten a card

[turbid verge]

https://twitter.com/ORIGINPC/status/1313871752657866752?s=20

originpc (@ORIGINPC)

We’re incredibly excited to see what @AMDRyzen unveils on October 8! How about you?

Tune in to @AMD’s livestream at 11AM CT to learn more about “Zen 3” and what’s next for Ryzen: https://t.co/9pAeTTMkze

Twitter

[violet plank]

dunno if they divided it by country's,maybe more like continent's?

or well,maybe country's make more sense

[storm osprey]

@turbid verge 24 hours to go xD

[violet plank]

all your zen3 belong to me 😛

[storm osprey]

nooooo please

since the beginning of the year ive been anticipating upgrading

[violet plank]

you're gonna buy another model anyways

[storm osprey]

another model?

[violet plank]

6 or 8 core?

i will buy the 12

need moa coas

[storm osprey]

ohh gotcha, yea either 6 or 8 cores

might go with 8 just for "future proofing" since doing that with my i7 vs an i5 actualy helped

[violet plank]

will be cheap enough anyways

afaik same launch prices like the zen 2

[storm osprey]

maybe ill actually stream when i get a 3080 too since i doubt ill lose much performance

[molten coral]

Stream hades

[violet plank]

wanna see among us stream

[storm osprey]

id just stream whatever im playing

[violet plank]

solitaire ?

[storm osprey]

lol if i play it sure

[supple bane]

yes!!!

nyphon solitaire stream!!

i dont want it

i need it

[storm osprey]

not sure i remember how to play solitaire

[violet plank]

too hardcore

[molten coral]

I wanna see a stream how you break your old GPU and make a keychain of the old CPU.

[storm osprey]

woooow i would never

[molten coral]

okay, I wanna see a stream where you build a PC out of old parts and give it to some kid in the hood to make him happy.

Upload it to YouTube > 1m subs in no time

[storm osprey]

that would be nice but i got some friends that could use the upgrades

my best friend is using a 970 for 1440p and 4k gaming

[supple bane]

yikes

[storm osprey]

granted they mostly play indie games

i honestly have no idea if they have played anything like cod in the last 10 years

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/CaAY-jAjm0w

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njwuFgoBMK8

[coarse nimbus]

Buy the what GPU?!

[wanton carbon]

them sound effects

😂

[storm osprey]

mm yes numbers

[violet plank]

isn't that about the same size as the 5700xt chip with 40 cu's?

and the ps5 one has 36 cu's and the 8 core cpu in it

plus cache

[supple bane]

what are CU's again?

[violet plank]

compute units

[storm osprey]

ceramic underwear

[violet plank]

lol

[supple bane]

ceramic underwear.. got it

[violet plank]

must be comfy

[supple bane]

would give someone a real bad day if they tried to punch you in the balls

[storm osprey]

uhhhh

apparently there is such thing as ceramic underwear, its not a wearable but... ceramic underwear people paint?

[wanton carbon]

tf is ceramic underwear

[violet plank]

guess there is a fetish for everything

[wanton carbon]

i actaully hate the LTT 2xgpu build vids

the pc with 2 gpus looks rancid

[violet plank]

you don't want 2 gpu's for gaming

ever

[supple bane]

well mean... if your isuni minted. sure

[violet plank]

problems in almost any games and ofc micro stutters

[storm osprey]

only time to do sli is if you have multiple 3090s

[violet plank]

that age is just over

for gaming

[wanton carbon]

multiple 3090's

wtf

[violet plank]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-to-launch-in-december

guess the 10gig model will be discontinued soon after

unless the price gap is crazy high

which i doubt

[wanton carbon]

like wtf

[violet plank]

that thing is ancient

[storm osprey]

@violet plank i mean 1060 from 3gb to 6gb was a 50 dollar difference

[wanton carbon]

this looks better instead of 2

[storm osprey]

i know its not 1:1 but 10gb more under that formula would be 150 bucks more

[violet plank]

yeah,would be my guess too

i mean it was clear from the start it will happen shortly after the navi 16 gig model launch

cause marketing

[storm osprey]

idk, 5xxx series from amd should have been something of a shake up for nvidia too and we really just saw supers come out and very minor price drops to counter

it would have helped if amd didnt have a 50% user reported driver issue rate

[violet plank]

well i really don't get that,never hat driver problems with amd

nor nvidia

[storm osprey]

yea i think most are user errors personally

[violet plank]

but i guess the majority of ppl have really messed up systems (software wise)

[storm osprey]

but, at the same time i bought a 5700 that would always crash on sotr

[violet plank]

to my knowledge those (some batch of them) had a hardware problem which they tried to fix with the drivers

thus the driver meme

i mean i know the first thing i will do if i change from a nvidia to a amd card

clean win install

or at least a ddu

[storm osprey]

i did clean win install

[violet plank]

but even a ddu won't be able to clear out all leftovers

best you can do

[storm osprey]

yea i tried everything and didnt get it to work

so returned i and saved that money for 3080

(this was in march)

[violet plank]

rma with money back ?