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violet plank
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true

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best rated 1440p currently

coarse nimbus
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$500 MeowTriumph

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From what I was seeing I couldn't get one that's decent till around $250 lol

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Which is probably a good+100 bucks than what a 1080 could be bought for.. but that 78% increase in pixels

lime raft
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would had 3090 shipped tomorrow

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but canceld it

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for at best 10% performance increase

coarse nimbus
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I mean if you're able to spend the extra 800$ on the card vs a 3080 are you really concerned with only a 10% boost? Lol

lime raft
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800?
where is ordered it price already increased to 1900

storm osprey
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lol wtf

strong breach
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2080ti and 3080 are equal confirmed

latent light
wanton carbon
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my new chair came

strong breach
teal siren
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bruh

wanton carbon
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what the

strong breach
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it happened again 🄳

wanton carbon
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why are they so much tho , is it because they are all sold out ?

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or is there some profiting shit going on

strong breach
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yea

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scrapers

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high demand low availability

wanton carbon
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ohhh

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I might get into profiting of gpus haHAA

storm osprey
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3090 just released today

wanton carbon
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coolio

latent light
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3090 is only 10-15% faster than the 3080 but costs over double the price

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3090 is just a compute card that can also game, just like the Titan RTX

wanton carbon
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is the 3080 better then the 2080 ti tho ?

strong breach
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yes

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also half cheaper

wanton carbon
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my new chair is so cool man , it was only 90 pound aswell

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if I lean back the chair rest will move back so I can literally lay fully flat like on a dentist chair

coarse nimbus
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How...do you not know at this point the 3080 is better GWaobloChildPepeSweat

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Are you living under the proverbial rock

wanton carbon
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no

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I just asked because I didn’t know

coarse nimbus
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The performance to $ stat is insane compared to the 2080ti lul

supple bane
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if I lean back the chair rest will move back so I can literally lay fully flat like on a dentist chair
thats pretty much standard for gaming chairs now

wanton carbon
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oh

quaint topaz
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3090 is quite underwhelming after looking at the benchmarks.

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The 3080 gives you a 10fps boost in most games when comparing it to a 2080 Ti, so those who panic sold their 2080 Ti's got screwed.

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But if you're upgrading from a 9 or 10 series GPU, the 3080 is your card.

wanton carbon
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anyone know any pop filters that will fit the Fifine

supple bane
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any boom mounted pop filter will work

wanton carbon
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sweet

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ty

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ohhh , i think I have one , it’s like a ring shape

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lemme try and find it

wanton carbon
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yeah

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the one that came with the boom arm is massive

supple bane
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its supposed to be

wanton carbon
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oh

latent light
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TSMC already talking 2nm

molten coral
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hmm

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I wonder what they will do after 1nm

mild siren
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0.0001 nm

wanton carbon
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okay I can’t find the box

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idk what has happened to it

supple bane
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@molten coral from what i heard you cant really go below 5nm because of quantum tunnelling

dull solstice
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Picometers, man.

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You forget the next smallest size for transistors and in general after nanometers is picometers.

supple bane
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yeah the info is shady but from what i can see tunnelling will occur around the 1-4nm mark

storm osprey
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3090 is just a compute card that can also game, just like the Titan RTX
@latent light i was under the impression this whole time it was a titan card, im confused how people thought differently

supple bane
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i guess people are confused because they are using the consumer naming scheme on it

wanton carbon
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@storm osprey is the Titan rtx part of a series or is it some beat add card they released

supple bane
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titan rtx is part of the rtx 2000 series

wanton carbon
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ohh

supple bane
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typically, there has been an xx60, xx70, xx80 and titan

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and then the TI and super versions on top of that

wanton carbon
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it’s like 1k tho isn’t it ?

supple bane
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titan rtx?

wanton carbon
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yeah

supple bane
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its 2.5k

wanton carbon
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WHAT

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the fuck

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what does it perform like for that price 🤣

supple bane
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and the 700 pound rtx 3080 outperforms it

storm osprey
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for gaming? not good

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but they are not built/promoted for gaming

wanton carbon
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ohhhh

supple bane
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well i mean. it was the fastest card for gaming

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but it wasnt much faster than the 2080ti

storm osprey
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more of a side effect than its focus

supple bane
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for double the price

wanton carbon
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it’s gold isn’t it

supple bane
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yeh

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i bet most people put a water block on it tho tbh

wanton carbon
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I only thought it was like 1.2k šŸ˜‚

supple bane
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thats the 2080ti price

wanton carbon
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yeah

storm osprey
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i assume most people buying titans/3090s are doing some sort of production with it and likely dont care about water blocking them

wanton carbon
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one of my friends has started bitcoin mining uhh

storm osprey
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waterblocking gpus imo is a meme

supple bane
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id guess the FE cooler on the titan rtx cannot handle it

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i might be wrong tho

storm osprey
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spend 100+ to water cool it to get 2% performance gains..

wanton carbon
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how does water cooling work for a gpu tho

supple bane
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same way it works for the gpu lol

wanton carbon
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I find it so pointless ngl

storm osprey
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its a flex

supple bane
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its no less pointless than cpu water cooling lol

storm osprey
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at least cpu water cooling is much easier

supple bane
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infact for gaming. you will get more benefit out of gpu overclocking than cpu overclocking

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a lot more actually

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gpu overclocks get you about 5 fps. cpu overclocks usually get you nothing

wanton carbon
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I suppose it looks nice and all but I’d rather just use fans haHAA

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cpu overcooking seems hard as hell

storm osprey
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the difference is a cpu comes with a shitty cooler or none at all

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so water cooling it is way more feasible than tearing apart a gpu to water cool it

supple bane
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oh yeah i mean water cooling a gpu is very hard. but its no less pointless than cpu cooling. thats what im saying

wanton carbon
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I might overclock my gou in a few days

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gpu *

supple bane
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also your friend will soon realise that bitcoin mining isnt as easy as it sounds lol

wanton carbon
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it is so easy , don’t u just use the msi afterburner ?

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oh

supple bane
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yes

wanton carbon
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he said he might give me a bit of money if he does good , so I might be getting a free upgrade ā€œknock on woodā€

supple bane
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you wont be lol

wanton carbon
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I don’t rlly understand what he chats about but I go along with it

supple bane
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you need incredible amounts of gpu horse power for bitcoin mining to be usable

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and right now bitcoin isnt worth anything

wanton carbon
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he said his dads friend works in China and he is buying gpus over there and he is gonna bring them over to the uk

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but I don’t understand how u get bitcoin shit

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the difference is a cpu comes with a shitty cooler or none at all
@storm osprey mine came with an intel one haHAA

supple bane
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he will probably find he is actually losing money tbh, from the electricity bill

wanton carbon
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LOLLLL

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he said he wants to make a mining pc with a lian li case , 2 gpus and a shit tonne of hardrives

supple bane
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yeah thats just not how to mine bitcoin lol

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mining rigs have 5 or more gpu's normally

wanton carbon
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5

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tf

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that’s mad

supple bane
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usually look something like this

wanton carbon
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holy shit

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wonder how many watts they would need for that in the psu

supple bane
wanton carbon
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wtff

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if ur gonna mine ur gonna need to spend thousands JEEEZ

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what cpu would they have to use

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or does that not rlly matter as much as the gpus

supple bane
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bitcoin mining is only gpu yes

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i dont really know how it works but as far as im aware there are massive machines out there churning out bitcoin to the point it makes home mined bitcoin impossible to be worth it

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its something ludicrous like 1% of the entire worlds energy consumption is bitcoin mining machines

wanton carbon
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yeah

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I don’t rlly see the point in it

strong breach
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Well, 3080 didnt restock on the same day 3090 launched

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Cool cool

wanton carbon
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you waste loads at the start buy the look of it

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don’t think they will for another few weeks ngl hess

strong breach
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Most likely

wanton carbon
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L

storm osprey
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@strong breach evga released FTW 3 yesterday for 3080

storm osprey
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@wanton carbon are those 3080s

wanton carbon
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not sure nyphon

violet plank
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Read the bottom note (Twitter)

violet plank
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rumored launch date of big navi november 11th (after the oct.28 presentation)

signal forge
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guys i have a 8+8 ram setup

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can i put a 16gb single stick to make it 32?

violet plank
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you can but it's a bad idea

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always go either 2 x 2 or 4 x 4

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2 + 1 will highly likely slow down your overall performance

latent light
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@signal forge mixing different capacity RAM sticks can cause instability and remove dual channel mode

supple bane
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Mixing ram in general is just a bad idea tbh

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Should avoid it

wanton carbon
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why do you need equal ram tho

violet plank
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can't you read lol

wanton carbon
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no

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shit I just saw grims comment

fallen harbor
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can i put a 16gb single stick to make it 32?
get two new 8gb modules instead so you have a total of 8+8+8+8 (32) and don't worry about having all of your slots busy as a result because you will never need more than 32gb on that pc

storm osprey
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this is amds time to actually make a dent in nvidia

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with that said, i think at best they would make a dent

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rdna was good competition to nvidia but the drivers fucked that up for them, even if it was overblown

violet plank
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wasn't a driver problem,it was a hardware one which they tried to fixed via drivers

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this is your new 3080 nyphon haHAA

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this is interesting

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will be expensive af tho i guess

inner folio
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Hey guys

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Is there other way to check power supply wattage (max wattage i mean) other than opening the case?

storm osprey
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@inner folio i dont think so, if you can try system information

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@violet plank which model is that and is it bad temps?

violet plank
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founders

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the problem is the gddr6x

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as you can see

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aib's also get almost that hot

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that's oc'ed btw

inner folio
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@inner folio i dont think so, if you can try system information
@storm osprey can u tell me where to go to get that information??

storm osprey
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isnt memory OC on 3080 actually detrimental?

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jayz2cents covered that

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@inner folio click windows bottom left, type "system information", click system information

violet plank
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it is nyph,but they already get around 100 C without OC NotLikeThis

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the gddr6x that's used on the current amperes is rated for 21GB/s from micron,but nvidia already only uses 19GB/s

inner folio
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Hey @storm osprey i opened system information window but i cant find the one referring wattage..

storm osprey
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at best it would give you a psu model (if that information is even available)

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then youd google that model

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im on a laptop atm so i cant try to look for a psu myself to help you out

wanton carbon
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u might be able to guess his psu @inner folio if he tells u his specs , u might have a rough idea

storm osprey
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what?

violet plank
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lmao

storm osprey
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i mean, if im assuming a prebuilt then yea, if you give me every component i could put that in a psu wattage calculator and assume they went with the lowest level wattage they could (usually 50-100 wattage of total)

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but at that point, just open the computer

violet plank
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just open a side panel and read the name tag of the psu

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as i understood he want's to know the wattage of his psu built in the pc

storm osprey
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yep, without opening it

inner folio
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Hmm ok ill open my panel tomorrow thanks all

glossy plinth
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9 minutes to do a single core benchmark and less than a minute for a multicore test

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my cpu is broken

violet plank
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time for a new build

glossy plinth
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rgb rgb

supple bane
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i thought you were anti rgb? @violet plank

violet plank
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depends on how and what

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kind of build i'm doing

wanton carbon
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that’s nyphon

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who hates that

storm osprey
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^

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i dont HATE it

violet plank
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those fans are expensive af,full aluminum frames and mirrored argb

storm osprey
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its just kind of a meme imo and adds no performance so the cost increase is technically a waste

violet plank
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i dont HATE it
@storm osprey but i do hate it haHAA

storm osprey
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i guess i hate the application of it more than anthing

violet plank
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they just have some things i like that none of the other fans have so far

supple bane
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its just kind of a meme imo and adds no performance so the cost increase is technically a waste
painting your walls adds no comfort to your house. so technically that is a waste too.

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but you still do it lol

storm osprey
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people get a 1660ti and a 3600 with rgb fans and case where if they didnt get rgb fans and cases they could have gotten a 2060/super

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i dont paint my walls though

violet plank
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lian li software is actually really nice,imo the first one of it's kind lol

storm osprey
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if your performance is maxed out or you are buying components later (this really only makes sense for fans or coolers) getting rgb is a waste

supple bane
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its very hard/impossible to make a good looking build without some form of lighting tho.

violet plank
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specially if you use a lian li o11

supple bane
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if you are seriously tight on cash, sure get 1 black fan. but if not. its nice to have a nice looking build

violet plank
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looks like garbage without

wanton carbon
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some rgb fans are cheap tho

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like them deepcool ones

storm osprey
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i think that looks great

violet plank
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that's another case

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without glass front

storm osprey
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and the intention of a computer isnt to look good either

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thats like... 2% of what you should be concerned about with a pc

supple bane
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im just gonna simply disagree with you on that one

violet plank
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tell that to my ocd haHAA

supple bane
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the computer should be the center piece of your rig

storm osprey
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bet cheap rpg fans perform like shit though

violet plank
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and don't talk about looks while you got orange fans ffs !!! leosmirk

storm osprey
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gaming performance should be the centerpiece of getting a pc

wanton carbon
storm osprey
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my orange fans were 12 bucks a piece and great price to performance value at the time

wanton carbon
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Granty uses them fans that I said šŸ˜‚

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ig they are good if he is using them

violet plank
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but they look,uhm,well,ehm.... LUL

supple bane
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these deepcool fans are fucking brilliant

storm osprey
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if im buying fans now im getting arctic p12

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(im gonna try an all black build next)

supple bane
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pain in the ass to wire, but nice airflow and v quiet

violet plank
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that's why i'm using lian li uni fans,ffs watch the vid lol

wanton carbon
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where do fans even plug in , is it in any pin connector ?

violet plank
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just one cable per rail

supple bane
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yeah i have seen them before

violet plank
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and the galahad aio is amazing for amd cpu's since it has a big square base plate

storm osprey
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its a cool concept, but ill spend 20 minutes worrying about wires to save 50 bucks

violet plank
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you'll think otherwise with a all open glass windowed case

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you see every fucking wire

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that paired with my ocd is hell lol

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for me

storm osprey
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well i would never buy an all open glass windowed case

violet plank
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i know haHAA

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it's an amazing case to build tho

storm osprey
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that sounds like an easy 130+ dollars to get no more performance (probably even worse) and added concerns about aesthetics that likely will lead to even more charges

violet plank
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way more $

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around 40 bucks a fan atm

storm osprey
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A FAN?!

violet plank
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i'm not on any budget so i don't care too much about that

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yes

storm osprey
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fuck that

violet plank
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full aluminum frame

storm osprey
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i could be a millionare and couldnt justify that price difference, especially if performance is likely equal or even worse

primal pier
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I don’t see eyes on that pc

violet plank
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would you buy them if you can get them in orange? leosmirk

primal pier
violet plank
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that's some random pic

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all good builds need eyes Thinkeyes

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back to work

storm osprey
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nah

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i only spent more on orange components if it was like an extra 10-20 bucks depending on the component

violet plank
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maybe i'm gonna install a strimer just for you nyph

storm osprey
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ffs

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60 bucks for a single rgb 24 pin connection?!

supple bane
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isuni, you must be minted m8 uhh

violet plank
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lol i wish

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i'm only a poor engineer

storm osprey
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idk if poor and engineer go together

violet plank
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maybe not poor,but for sure not rich

storm osprey
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you move around for work right?

violet plank
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yes,but not since rona ofc

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btw you can always combine butt ugly (but godlike) fans with nice lights CloseCat

storm osprey
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working for the same company the whole time?

violet plank
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no

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working as freelancer

storm osprey
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niceu

mild siren
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Mmm

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My whole family is made of engineers

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Guess who I will be

violet plank
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good choice leosmirk

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(well only if you actually like it)

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finally,been waiting for this

storm osprey
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so from what i can tell, doesnt affect anything in any meaningful way

violet plank
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not with a good standard airflow in the case

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i actually see some benefits in the FE

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if you have a x570 chipset

storm osprey
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i didnt expect a big problem

violet plank
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me neither

storm osprey
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its not like normal cards had the hot air just disappear

violet plank
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if you airflow sucks,all card designs won't help with that

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lot of ppl think airflow design affects the total heat output (basic physics anyone lol)

coarse nimbus
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You know what's better... putting that fancy triple fan card 10mm away from your side class case WeSmart

primal pier
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Eyes

supple bane
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angra...

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please...

storm osprey
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i love this tradition

wanton carbon
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apart from the eyes that pc is very nice

lime raft
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well i'm happy i not bought a 3000 serie

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oh nvm, msi 3090 was fine

lilac surge
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Is there any way to find what FPS your pc will run a game before having said game

strong breach
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Watching benchmarks from youtube is probably the way to go

turbid verge
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Thats why u never buy hardware on day 1

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But the capacitor thing is very plausible being the issue

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Although its not 100% proved

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Since some people said disabling g-sync they didnt had crashes

turbid verge
prime jasper
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Not BF related but I am just curious

Is this an acceptable internet service? those speed are in the ideal conditions that are barely achieved because of the rusty landline cables "as the providere claim" in many areas. Mine is the second one but my maximum speed is 17 mbps not 30.

7.61$ = 30 mbps, 140gb cap
10. 78$= 30 mbps, 200gb cap
13.31$= 30 mbps, 250gb cap
31.7$ = 30 mbps, 600 gb cap
19.65$. = 70 mbps, 250 gb cap
25.99$ = 100 mbps, 250 gb cap
44.37$ =100 mbps, 600 gb cap

The average salaries are equivalent to. 190$
All those packages with base prices that don't include the forced 14% tax.

primal pier
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I mean that is technically technology related

wanton carbon
arctic dragon
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Can it actually put out 300 fps in some games? lol

prime jasper
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Those kind of screens are jus designed for CSGO, Valorant, Overwatch and those nicely smoothly running titles

wanton carbon
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Can it actually put out 300 fps in some games? lol
@arctic dragon it plays 300hz but idk about what FPS

violet plank
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Glad i canceld my 3090
@lime raft
There is more to it than only those capacitors since even cards with full sets of 6x10 MLCC crashing.

strong breach
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i probably won't cancel my order i really need a new GPU

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if mine crashes ill just underclock it by -50mhz and lose like 2 fps at max compared to not underclocking it

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3080 is still a great value for performance gpu

violet plank
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you ordered a asus tuf right?

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@strong breach

strong breach
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yeah @violet plank tuf oc

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and if it has the issue having a 2 fps difference doesn't really effect to gameplay at all

violet plank
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asus has by far the best pcb with mentioned full 6x10 1uf caps,chances are high it won't be affected

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compared to all the rest

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they already changed them in prebuilding phase

strong breach
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it's still a lottery not all of the asus ones have to better caps on them

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from TUF

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i've seen photos of some having all 6

violet plank
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well i guess you won't receive the first charge anyways

strong breach
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and some having just 1 or 2

violet plank
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ye true,only the strix have 6x10 from the beginning

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but the second charge of tuf's should as well

strong breach
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most likely

violet plank
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even if not,asus cards are by far superior to all other atm

strong breach
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anyways i don't mind this thing that much

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if im effected i don't lose much

violet plank
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just undervolt by 50W anyways šŸ˜›

strong breach
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ofc it would be better if it worked with proper OC

violet plank
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well if you really want OC you would have gone for the strix i guess

strong breach
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strix is just too expensive honestly

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like +240€

violet plank
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ah right the price differences are insane high at some places

strong breach
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wait i lied

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it's +190€

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in here

violet plank
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here the gigabyte higher models are beyond expensive

strong breach
violet plank
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almost 1k

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ouch

strong breach
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yee

molten coral
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Oof

strong breach
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the non OC one is 900€

molten coral
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The tuf oc is 799 here and the strix oc 860

violet plank
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about the same here

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anyways if anyone want's some deeper insights check BZ's vid (since Igors is in german only i guess)

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all others about this topic are more or less crap

strong breach
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i heard that you can self fix the crashing issue by going -5% power usage and -50Mhz Core Clock in MSI afterburner

violet plank
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some say disabling gsync resolves the crashes lol

strong breach
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that sounds uhhh

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not true

violet plank
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dunno how accurate this is

strong breach
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but if it works it works lul

violet plank
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would be bad

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if you got a gsync monitor

strong breach
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yeah lmao

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i already lost one lottery with my GTX1070

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there was a lottery of getting Samsung memory and Micron memory

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ofcourse i got the micron one :)

violet plank
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so you got micron šŸ˜›

strong breach
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yes :)

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you can barely OC it at all

violet plank
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lol

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i can +950Mhz without even raise the voltage,but that's a 1080ti

strong breach
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yeah LUL

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this is the highest my 1070 can go

violet plank
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temp limit 92

strong breach
strong breach
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it never goes above 60c

violet plank
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ah lul

wanton carbon
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it never goes above 60c
@strong breach HOW

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my gpu isn’t even overclocked and it reaches 75

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THATS BULLSHIT

strong breach
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F

supple bane
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i have never tested how far my card can go. i know my old 1060 is an amazing overclocker. but too scared to push my new card leosmirk

strong breach
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this is what my 1070 looks like

wanton carbon
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my case had only 2 fans tho so ig its because of that ?

strong breach
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it also depends which 1070 you got

wanton carbon
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I have a 1660

strong breach
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cooling's different so

wanton carbon
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yup

strong breach
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im just gonna play some rounds of Apex Legends and see where my temps go actually

wanton carbon
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wish I could play anything haHAA

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all jokes aside my computer is hopefully arriving today

violet plank
strong breach
wanton carbon
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lucky boi

strong breach
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okay so my GPU goes to 75c

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i lied about never going above 60 LUL

wanton carbon
#

do you know how much a 1660 super could be overclocked ? or does it depend

strong breach
#

just try and see how high you can go :P

wanton carbon
#

same as my temps then haHAA we are twins

#

ig

strong breach
#

start by adding like 50Mhz

wanton carbon
#

yeah

strong breach
#

and keep doing that until it crashes

wanton carbon
#

crashes Thinkeyes

strong breach
#

then go back to the latest +50Mhz it worked and start adding +25Mhz

wanton carbon
#

yeah

#

does the overcloking give more FPS in games

strong breach
#

yes, that's why people do it

wanton carbon
#

sweet

strong breach
#

you don't gain much FPS though

wanton carbon
#

oh

strong breach
#

but it's something

wanton carbon
#

yeah

#

I will try it tomorrow if I can

#

what’s the max someone has ever overclocked a gpu to

strong breach
#

no idea

violet plank
#

hmm,i actually revise my opinion about BZ's vid,he's wrong at some parts

molten coral
#

BZ?

violet plank
#

buildzoid

molten coral
#

never heard of him

violet plank
#

true techie on yt

#

he's kinda part of GN

strong breach
#

wonder what they did to their RTX3080s to make it perform like GTX970

wanton carbon
#

found some old ram sticks haHAA

#

they’re probs like 2gb ones

coarse nimbus
#

@strong breach is that a ti or just regular?

torn needle
#

i have 1050 ti 🄲

#

🄲

prime jasper
#

i have a 1660ti

molten coral
#

I've a PS4

wanton carbon
#

nacho’s ps4 is so cool

lime raft
#

ps4 day one editon, ps4 darth vader edition, ps4 pro, and 1070

violet plank
#

if this is anywhere near true i would shoot my feet in an endless cycle if i got an ampere card haHAA

#

ffs those clock speeds leosmirk

#

and those low tdp PogChamp

#

2.05 - 2.5 GHz @ max tdp of 238W

#

gpu only ofc,ram and controllers have to be added,but those consume not really much

#

not like gddr6x

#

seems to be legit so far

#

easier to read

wanton carbon
#

what if someone builds a pc in a fridge ??? , that’s gotta be possible , the temps would be low as hell

primal pier
#

In the lower part right

supple bane
#

@wanton carbon it's been done and it doesnt work

wanton carbon
#

oh

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how doesn’t it work

supple bane
#

Basically Fridges are really well insulated, so they are designed for the cooling unit to turn on maybe once an hour, and then the thicc insulation will keep it cold for a long while.

#

If you put a pc in there, the cooling unit will cool it down and then go off for an hour

#

But a PC will soon heat that enclosed space up

wanton carbon
#

ohhh

#

idk why that idea came into my head

wanton carbon
#

computer never arrived in the end , doubt it will tomorrow either peter

fallen harbor
#

is there any sort of led for cases

#

like

#

not a hardware with rgb

#

but a dedicated led or light in general

#

that you can plug to your psu

supple bane
#

Internal?

fallen harbor
#

and stick it into ur case

#

just to light it

supple bane
#

I'm not sure about ones that can be controlled without a motherboard.

fallen harbor
#

i want to make my set up less dark

#

but i dont have any rgb hardware, nor plan on getting any because my pc is already set, and rgb stuff is very expensive

#

so i wondered if there's any light you can plug onto your motherboard or psu and stick somewhere inside the case

wanton carbon
violet plank
#

cathode lights or led strips @fallen harbor

latent light
#

APUs are about to get much more powerful

#

@violet plank
RDNA1 - Navi10 40CU @2.05GHz 55-60% of a RTX 3080
RDNA2 - Navi21 80CU @2.15-2.25 + 7% IPC... you can assume where that's gonna land yourself. Current memory configuration is still 256-bit, but 256-bit L3 caches line up with HBM2e caches, due to doubling, or maybe even quadrupling all levels of cache and latency improvements. Heard very recently that current top Navi21 MIGHT be running HBM2e in some form of debugging mode and spoofing 256-bit as to not tip off the obvious HBM bus width. If top Navi21 is HBM2e, it's going to be at least 50 watts down from the RTX 3080 at least and trying to run down the RTX 3090. Given possible compatible mem config of HBM2e and G6, 80CU XTX, possibly HBM, 72CU at G6 or maybe HBM2e as well. I'm not sure about that 'infinty cache' shit, I think thats misdirection but who knows.

fallen harbor
#

@violet plank i see, are those connected to the mobo or the psu?

fallen harbor
#

im not finding any šŸ¤”

#

any idea how much energy it consumes?

#

i am wondering if my psu is enough for it

primal pier
#

Would the top part of the freezer work tho

#

Or will it be too frosty

wanton carbon
#

Would the top part of the freezer work tho
@primal pier probably the same thing as a fridge I think

primal pier
#

Ah

supple bane
#

possibly would also suffer from condensation/ice in a freezer

#

and as we know, water+electronics=bad day

wanton carbon
#

yup

primal pier
#

So making a pc in a fish tank is a idea then

wanton carbon
#

that’s worse šŸ˜‚

#

fish tanks get very hot if the lid is on and there is probs no ventilation

supple bane
#

if you lived by a lake or right next to a cold sea, that would be pretty poggers leosmirk

primal pier
#

Better buy an island then

supple bane
#

pretty much infinite, free chilled water.

#

just need a meaty pump Yes

primal pier
#

Just imagine the eyes on it

wanton carbon
#

make an air tight plastic tub and hammer it down into the lake ?

#

surely that would work

#

ish

supple bane
#

i was more talking about using the water from the lake in a water cooled system uhh

#

not putting the computer in the lake lol

wanton carbon
#

Ohhhhhh shitttt

#

yeah

#

don’t water cooling systems need some sort of liquid and not pure water

#

I think they do

primal pier
#

Pee on it

supple bane
#

no they can use any liquid

wanton carbon
#

rlly

supple bane
#

anything that can be moved by a pump will work

wanton carbon
#

woahh

primal pier
#

Even coolant

supple bane
#

milk, beer, pop..

wanton carbon
#

Vodka

primal pier
#

Can I eat cereal with it

wanton carbon
#

lolllllll

supple bane
#

if you set your mind to it, sure WoahHappy

primal pier
#

Soup

wanton carbon
#

orange juice ?

#

I would do a little water cooled system when I’m like 20 but knowing me I will break something

supple bane
#

the reason you hear about certain liquids being needed is that for sustainability yes. certain chemicals are needed. for example pure water will work fine. but corrosion and algae will start to form

#

AIO liquid has chemicals to stop both of those things

wanton carbon
#

Algae CoffinDance1

#

that is annoying

supple bane
#

also certain liquids like anti freeze are common amongst extreme overclockers. but it has one little property that allows it to break down plastics. so it will eat through your loop basically

wanton carbon
#

what if I added black current ? Into the system would Algae still grow do@you think

supple bane
#

idk, probably yes

wanton carbon
#

I will get a UV light then

#

pretty sure they kill off algae

#

Soup
@primal pier are u gonna use your pc as a food station ? And just get soup from it when ur hungry ?

primal pier
#

Perhaps

#

Maybe tea too

wanton carbon
#

that would sound cool

primal pier
#

But sanitary idk

wanton carbon
#

hand sanitizer PogChamp

#

oh no , it won’t work I don’t think as some hand sanitizers are slow moving RIP

fallen harbor
#

what could it mean that one of my case fans spins in an infinite loop of switching between slow and fast?

#

it was very hard and frozen today before so i put some oil in it and it seemed to work perfectly fine but now it's spinning like that

wanton carbon
#

I have no idea on fans , is there something slowing it down somewhere , or is it rlly dusty ?

fallen harbor
#

i cleaned it and put oil in it

#

so idk what else to do

violet plank
#

@violet plank
RDNA1 - Navi10 40CU @2.05GHz 55-60% of a RTX 3080
RDNA2 - Navi21 80CU @2.15-2.25 + 7% IPC... you can assume where that's gonna land yourself. Current memory configuration is still 256-bit, but 256-bit L3 caches line up with HBM2e caches, due to doubling, or maybe even quadrupling all levels of cache and latency improvements. Heard very recently that current top Navi21 MIGHT be running HBM2e in some form of debugging mode and spoofing 256-bit as to not tip off the obvious HBM bus width. If top Navi21 is HBM2e, it's going to be at least 50 watts down from the RTX 3080 at least and trying to run down the RTX 3090. Given possible compatible mem config of HBM2e and G6, 80CU XTX, possibly HBM, 72CU at G6 or maybe HBM2e as well. I'm not sure about that 'infinty cache' shit, I think thats misdirection but who knows.
@latent light thought it was L2 cache,else i agree.if navi 21 is without hbm there has to be sommething like that infinity cache imo.my guess is maybe there is a prosumer version of navi 21 which would be using hbm2e with a pricing btw 3080 and 3090

prime jasper
#

How do I turn off FPS cap on Battlefield 1?

violet plank
#

@violet plank i see, are those connected to the mobo or the psu?
@fallen harbor both,that's some old school modding stuff that was used before all that rgb came up.usually it was connected via the old 4 pin 12v connector from the psu.

#

i am wondering if my psu is enough for it
@fallen harbor for sure,those consume only a few watts

wanton carbon
#

How do I turn off FPS cap on Battlefield 1?
@prime jasper it’s in video settings I’m pretty sure

prime jasper
#

@wanton carbon but I can't see anything FPS related in the settings, and I've checked it multiple times

violet plank
wanton carbon
#

@wanton carbon but I can't see anything FPS related in the settings, and I've checked it multiple times
@prime jasper what is the FPS locked to

violet plank
#

and that's why most aib's have fucked up their ampere cards by cheaping out

violet plank
#

free mooncake !

#

only for malaysia tho

wanton carbon
#

why do u think it’s dead @mortal rune

mortal rune
#

@wanton carbon not dead but it looks like no other suspect

wanton carbon
#

what is it

mortal rune
#

Gpu

wanton carbon
#

yes which one

mortal rune
#

Gtx1050

wanton carbon
#

hmm

#

@storm osprey do you know anything about what to do ?

mortal rune
#

You know i did all the updates from Windows to nvidia

#

But turning it on after the shutdown..it just keep working fine@wanton carbon

worthy horizon
#

LETS TALK TECH @obtuse kettle

obtuse kettle
#

ok

worthy horizon
#

"The issue is mostly related (at least from what is being reported now) to the choice of capacitors" Maybe 3rd party manufacturers will fix the issue

#

If its indeed only related to capacitors

#

or mostly

obtuse kettle
#

soemwhere else it's : In a nutshell: when the affected models reach a boost GPU clock speed of 2.0GHz or higher, the card crashes to the desktop.

#

so safe to say, don't buy new gpu on day one, wait for fixed versions first ;D

#

kinda like the xbox 360

#

red ring of deaaath

worthy horizon
#

Rip

#

Luckily I got mine in 2010

#

No red ring of death

obtuse kettle
#

i never owned the 360

worthy horizon
#

Only kinect xd

obtuse kettle
#

ps3 fo life

worthy horizon
#

Ew dude no

#

360 is so much better

obtuse lion
#

Yes

obtuse kettle
#

no, i hated microsoft for ditching xbox 1 so quickly

worthy horizon
#

They had to compete with the ps3

#

Which they did

#

And won

obtuse kettle
#

ps2 sold their games for a long time in stores, yet xbox 1 just pulled its game stock immediately

#

they lost in the longrun bruh

#

they won the hd dvd bluray race. ps3 outsold 360 eventually due superior media center

#

they have unchrated

worthy horizon
#

Wait did it actually? I thought the 360 outsold the ps3

#

Uncharted is overrated crap

obtuse kettle
#

D:

#

TAKE THAT BACK

worthy horizon
#

jk

#

Never played it

#

Watched some gameplay tho

#

Its alright

obtuse kettle
#

Good

worthy horizon
#

But after playing doom eternal I'll probably think its shit

obtuse kettle
#

anyway, so, wait with buying new rtx cards apparently ;D

worthy horizon
#

I'm planning on getting the 40xx

#

When they release

obtuse kettle
#

xd

#

they'll be double cheaper

worthy horizon
#

Not gonna swap my 2080 I bought it only a year ago!

obtuse lion
#

Guys

#

How much should you spend for 1080p 21:9 144hz?

#

Im waiting for zen 3 and rdna2

worthy horizon
#

I mean prices are WILDLY different in my country

#

So probably like uhm 1k?

#

maybe 1.5k

obtuse lion
#

So much damn

worthy horizon
#

Dunno how it'll be for you

obtuse kettle
#

1080p?

obtuse lion
#

Yea

obtuse kettle
#

i'd say 250ish?

worthy horizon
#

250ish?!

#

144hz???

obtuse lion
#

1440p is nice but FPS consumer

#

250 is low

worthy horizon
#

You think his games will run at 144 fps?

#

With 250 bucks

obtuse kettle
#

they pretty cheap? D:

obtuse lion
#

Btw you can have a 5700xt and run 1080p 144hz ultra

#

A 5700xt was a beast for 1080p btw

#

Can run battlefield v at 144fps ultra

#

Idk how will next gen be

obtuse kettle
#

oh wait. i was thinking of monitor.

worthy horizon
#

Lol

obtuse lion
#

Oh monitor yes

worthy horizon
#

So wait whats your target fps

obtuse lion
#

Btw its not 250 its 150

#

144fps

#

Just multiplayer games

worthy horizon
#

Oh then theres no way you're getting 144 fps on new games with $250

obtuse kettle
#

what do you need to buy tho

worthy horizon
#

Tbh even with my 2080 I don't get 144 fps in new games

#

Granted its not OCed

obtuse lion
#

1080p?

worthy horizon
#

Yup

obtuse lion
#

Dude wtf

#

1080p you sure?

obtuse kettle
#

like are we talking about budget for gpu, monitor etc. or entire rig etc

worthy horizon
#

Yup

#

Tho actually

obtuse lion
#

Entire rig

worthy horizon
#

I do bump up the render scale

obtuse kettle
#

oh yeah you need more than 250 then xD

worthy horizon
#

So its not that fair

obtuse lion
#

Oh then ofc its not 144fps

obtuse kettle
#

i'd say for 1200 you can get a decent rig

worthy horizon
#

But like bfv runs at 100 fps 115 render scale

#

And my full specs are i7 8700k 2080 16ram

#

It looks bad on 100% render scale

obtuse lion
#

I thought you need 1000$

#

Which is alot btw

worthy horizon
#

Oh yea for sure

#

But that would hold you for 5 years

obtuse lion
#

Damn 5 years already lol

worthy horizon
#

Even more if you don't care playing on 30 fps and low settings

obtuse lion
#

Nah just 60fps and med

obtuse kettle
#

more than 5 years if you don't mind lowering your settings for newer games

worthy horizon
#

The cpu will easily hold for long

#

So its more down to your gpu

fallen harbor
#

@violet plank tyvm

strong breach
#

uhh so uhh

#

Linus dropped this video

fallen harbor
#

please tell me that case was made ironically

#

cant tell if the guy on the left is an idiot or a god damn genius

strong breach
#

best video from LTT tbh

fallen harbor
#

dude

#

i lost all of my braincells watching this

#

wtf

#

is that guy disabled or is he a comedian god

#

i need to know

strong breach
#

"I don't know much about PCs, This water is great!"

  • Twomad
supple bane
#

i have never heard of this twomad guy

#

but he seems funny i guess

#

better than that ginger girl they had on leosmirk

#

hehe, the ending was great

#

what a twist

latent light
wanton carbon
#

I’d buy those glasses haHAA

prime jasper
#

anti scalper shades

#

y e s

latent light
#

This is why I'm never an early adopter

strong breach
#

im glad i ordered the TUF OC

#

has 6x the good caps

#

it's also funny that if you get a 3090 and don't overclock it

#

an overclocked 3080 will get better perfomance

fallen harbor
#

aaah yes, 23c gpu temp and 27c cpu temp on idle

#

i have achieved pleasure

#

what benchmark software would you guys recommend to check if all of my modules are working properly?

strong breach
#

how

#

mine idles at 40c

#

:)

#

and under load goes to 75c

supple bane
#

probably urs has a 0db mode

#

and ando's doesnt

fallen harbor
#

your pc is probably a monster compared to mine, and usually the higher tier you go, the higher the temperatures get

#

i have an i5 8400 and rx590

strong breach
#

it's a sucky gtx1070

fallen harbor
#

i have an hyper 212 with two fans attached, two additional fans above it, and another in the back

#

all pushing air outside

strong breach
#

had to check

fallen harbor
strong breach
#

oh that's whyyy

#

the superior air flow by having an open case

#

gets dusty though

fallen harbor
#

no, i dont have it open

#

thats a pic of when i was ensambling it

strong breach
#

ah lul

fallen harbor
strong breach
#

i thought you kept it like that

#

šŸ’¦

#

Mousepad! Where is it!?

fallen harbor
#

dont need it

supple bane
#

pfht

strong breach
#

this bothers me a little

supple bane
#

i couldnt live without a mouse mat

fallen harbor
#

i really dont know any reason as to why i should get one

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

#

this desktop's surface is accurate

supple bane
#

are you into shooters?

fallen harbor
#

yes

supple bane
#

a mousemat will likely give you more control

#

its less, slippy

wanton carbon
#

i couldnt live without a mouse mat
ngl I first started playing pc with no mouse mat

fallen harbor
#

ive used pcs with no mousepads and it was unbearable even for office work

#

but idk this desktop doesnt have that problem

#

i dont feel any slippery

#

maybe it would be a bit better with a pad? but so little i probably wouldnt even notice

violet plank
#

what benchmark software would you guys recommend to check if all of my modules are working properly?
@fallen harbor aida64

supple bane
#

i washed my mouse mat a few days ago and i had to use my pc for about 24 hours without a mousemat whilst it dried. it was horrible

#

i played flight sim the entire time as i didnt really have to use the mouse leosmirk

fallen harbor
#

@fallen harbor aida64
ok ty

wanton carbon
#

is it easy to fly with the steering stick thing

#

idk what it’s called

supple bane
#

i use a yoke

wanton carbon
#

that’s it

#

I think

supple bane
#

one of deez

wanton carbon
#

yeah that

supple bane
#

its not EASY

wanton carbon
#

oh

supple bane
#

but its not hard either

wanton carbon
#

better then a mouse and keyboard tho ig

supple bane
#

oh yeah

wanton carbon
#

imagine using a steering wheel for flight sim

#

is that even possible to use a steering wheel wtf

supple bane
#

no

#

planes go up and down. not just left and right haHAA

#

thats why you cant use a wheel

wanton carbon
#

the yoke seems fun to use

violet plank
#

guess that's what you're looking for @fallen harbor ?

fallen harbor
#

uuuh

#

idk

#

ive seen some screens of some people

#

with softwares that specify how well their hardware are performing

#

like, average, lower than average, above average,etc

violet plank
#

userbenchmark?

fallen harbor
#

dunno

#

never know which it was

violet plank
fallen harbor
#

ok ty

violet plank
#

yw

fallen harbor
#

i only found one light tube selling in my country and it's not the color i want :(

violet plank
#

cold cathodes are outdated,hardly anyone uses them anymore

fallen harbor
#

sad

violet plank
#

maybe you can find some on a used market?

supple bane
#

you could like, just get some normal light strips ?

#

and find a way to get power into the case

violet plank
#

he has no rgb port i think

supple bane
#

no i mean like

fallen harbor
#

eh if i cant get the power from the psu i wouldnt try it

supple bane
#

ones from ikea

violet plank
#

ah,non rgb led strips

supple bane
#

ones you would use for your desk etc

#

ones you plug into the wall

#

just find a way to get the power cable into the case

wanton carbon
#

use the ones that are sticky on the one side , and then find a way to get the cable going out the back of the case

violet plank
#

you can't power those with the psu

#

there are led strips which you can connect to the 4 pin 12v psu plug

#

but don't ask me where to get them lol

supple bane
#

ik you cant use the psu lol

#

im giving another option

violet plank
#

ye if you want to fiddle in another cable from the outside into the case

#

would be an option

supple bane
#

ive done it before

#

was pretty easy

fallen harbor
#

i know but

#

idk

#

dont like the idea

#

would rather have all in one

wanton carbon
#

Something like that would work surely , the cable looks thin enough to fit through somewhere

violet plank
#

well i wouldn't want to remove a slot plate either,looks ugly imo

#

just an open hole with a cable going in

wanton carbon
#

fit it through a little fan slot hole if u can at the back ?

#

there has to be a thin ass cable somewhere on these things

violet plank
#

hmm,too small i guess

molten coral
#

i washed my mouse mat a few days ago and i had to use my pc for about 24 hours without a mousemat whilst it dried. it was horrible
@supple bane Just use the dryer if you have one next time

wanton carbon
#

for a mouse pad ?

#

huh

molten coral
#

Yeah why not

#

I always do that

wanton carbon
#

surely the thing would set fire

molten coral
#

No?

wanton carbon
#

because of the heat in them things

#

I just hang mine over the washing line in the sun and it’s dry in like an hour

molten coral
#

I always do it 20-30m in the dryer

#

Never had any issues or damage

fallen harbor
supple bane
#

your card is bang on average

#

thats pretty good lol

fallen harbor
#

weird, everything else is on the green line

violet plank
#

you could actually solder a connector to led strip as an option

supple bane
#

overclocking would be the way to get it further up the list

#

ngl i thought the 590 was faster than that

wanton carbon
#

I rarely have to wash my mouse mat , usually I would get a baby wipe , but if I spill my drink I would wash it

#

nacho don’t u have the Corsair mouse mat ?

fallen harbor
#

rx590 is literally just like 5% faster than the gtx1060

violet plank
#

seems a bit low indeed

supple bane
#

whats the tdp of that card again? haHAA

fallen harbor
#

the power consumption?

supple bane
#

mhm

fallen harbor
#

i think 185w max

supple bane
#

heh

fallen harbor
#

no, 175

supple bane
#

typical amd leosmirk

fallen harbor
#

yeah amd sucks

#

i want to go back in time and buy a 1660 instead

supple bane
#

same power draw as my 2070 whilst its overclocked

fallen harbor
#

lmao

supple bane
#

i think it averages 176

fallen harbor
#

do you think it will be worth it to buy a stronger gpu in the future to pair it with this i5 8400? or would it be better to just replace the entire pc then? (my current setup is pretty good for my standards since i only seek 1080p and 60fps so im only talking about the future)

#

like idk in 5 years

#

or 4

supple bane
#

erm.. im not sure actually

#

maybe if you went to 1440p or ultrawide or something the 8400 would hold up

#

but i think it would struggle at 1080p

fallen harbor
#

i dont plan on ever going above 1080

#

tbh

#

wait why would it struggle at 1080 and not at 1440

supple bane
#

as resolution goes up, cpu load goes down

fallen harbor
#

uh what

supple bane
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as resolution goes down, cpu load goes up

fallen harbor
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for realsies

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how does that work

supple bane
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because the gpu can pump out more frames. the cpu has to work harder to keep up

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it works the same way for settings too

fallen harbor
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oh but that'd be the same as just limiting my frame rate at 1080

supple bane
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in bfv i get the same fps on 1440p low and high

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because of the cpu bottleneck at 1440p low

violet plank
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if you are a bit into electronics you could do this @fallen harbor

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first answer

fallen harbor
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amazin

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ty

prime jasper
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Can you help to do peacekeeper I'm at An Escalation but I'm not able to decode the morse code (bf1)

strong breach
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@prime jasper people over at discord.gg/bfee are great at this kind of thing!

prime jasper
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i want to go back in time and buy a 1660 instead
@fallen harbor 1660 OC = 1660 Ti

fallen harbor
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i mean okay

clear cargo
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ha ha ha

primal pier
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When your playing fallout with tons of mods

latent light
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AMD is now the efficiency king

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But definitely not the software king

fallen harbor
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But definitely not the software king
y not

storm osprey
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Their drivers have normally been problematic

weak girder
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oh but that'd be the same as just limiting my frame rate at 1080
@fallen harbor Mine is best at 1080p but even if I lower resolution the framerate doesn't change at all

digital hill
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For the 6900xt there has to be one that is nsfw from another country because 69 joke funny

violet plank
molten coral
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ah yiss

mild siren
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Who posted userbenchmark?

violet plank
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lmao,the new nvidia driver downclocks the gpu and increases the tdp Picard

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glad i didn't buy an ampere

molten coral
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@primal pier

supple bane
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E Y E S

wanton carbon
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that is pretty scary

storm osprey
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ITS PERFECT

opaque saddle
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will it melt

wanton carbon
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I hope

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so his eyes die

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sike

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it’s a pc mod keanu

molten bramble
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Looks cartoony anyways though.

supple bane
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yeah doesnt look that good anyway

wanton carbon
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I don’t mind it

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does anyone even know how u get mods in gta ?

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like not mod menus but the one like that vid

primal pier
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pogu@molten coralChag

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Lovely eyes

quaint topaz
wanton carbon
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000

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is there such thing as a 4K display that the moniter will produce by itself and not through the pc

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so U don’t need a good gpu to play 4K

molten bramble
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No.

wanton carbon
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oh

coarse nimbus
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So that explains why the Asus tuf is +150$ more? GWnonAiSmug

wanton carbon
primal pier
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Where’s thy switch and mobile

supple bane
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The name tags are so small they arent visible to the naked eye @primal pier

primal pier
wanton carbon
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The name tags are so small they arent visible to the naked eye @primal pier
lollllllll

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angra got roasted hardddd

primal pier
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Was that even a roast because if so where’s the Soulja game and google stadia

wanton carbon
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I mean I think it was

prime jasper
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Who posted userbenchmark?
@mild siren i dont care about what you said but YO

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ITS ME L1R

tight nymph
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can you use bot commands here

storm osprey
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Yes

tight nymph
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huh

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then why isn't anyone using bot commands here