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#technology
glossy plinth
violet plank
i can recommend mine
molten coral
How heavy is your monitor?
violet plank
8kg
molten coral
Because mine is almost 12KG without the stand
molten coral
Samsung CHG90
violet plank
ahh,i c
violet plank
dunno of any flex arm to carry such a big weight tbh
strong breach
💸
molten coral
There are arms that can carry it but they are around 175-250 euro
violet plank
other way around here,got the monitor and need a new gpu sometimes lol
molten coral
You gonna get the 3080 reference edition? Hess
violet plank
btw there are already rumors the 3080 20gb vram version will come out maybe as early as by the end of october
strong breach
don't know which one
molten coral
that will probably up the price from 700 to 1000
violet plank
for me 10gb vram is just not enough...
strong breach
is it not enough? 
violet plank
far from future proof
strong breach
i would have thought 10gb was fine
violet plank
not for 4k gaming
violet plank
consoles will push the vram usage cause of all the bad ports to come
for 1440p it's fine
unless you play with mods
like heavy mods
molten coral
I'm really wondering what the PS5 is going to cost now microsoft have announced their prices
violet plank
predictions (leaks) for the ps5/normal series x are still 499$
bit less for the ones without drive
molten coral
That isn't a bad price though
violet plank
ye
some rumors say the final prices will be unveiled this week
can't recall which day atm
for ps5 at least,not sure about xbox
btw 3080 (aib) pre orders could start very soon
but with really low stocks
what i've seen only about 50$ above the fe msrp prices for some models
supple galleon
ok so my game will stop for a frame and then it will just crash
out of the blue
and i dont know why, no errors no anything
mild siren
Is it worth buying 2080 or 2070 super rn?
I dont need future proof
Will buy a new pc in a couple of years
Just a good video card for 1440p gaming
Or 1080p
valid drift
I agree
wait like a month or 2 for 3070
same price as a 2070 S and MUCH better performance
violet plank
or buy a used 2080ti for 300$
violet plank
use ryzen master to look at the temps,any other program forces the cpu commit "fake" loads and thus higher temps than they really are
and 40-50 C is normal for idle
violet plank
normal
glossy plinth
what temp do you think is normal for a gpu
violet plank
cause the cores have super high polling,don't compare ryzen to intel cpus
temps depend on the model,your case,the airflow,ambient temp and so on
glossy plinth
ive spent on the last 4 hours to to install my chispet on amd website
lmao
so cofusing
violet plank
lot of shops started listing 3080/90 aib models,but without prices so far
glossy plinth
id like that 3090 but my psu aint gonna be enough lmao
violet plank
if you can afford a 3090,you can afford a new psu as well
@molten coral
guess ps5 will be the same
winged tapir
violet plank
lol
2 sec too late
hmm,if i get a 3090 the load wattage of my system would be 676W 
without oc
violet plank
the psu or the cable routing?
glossy plinth
cable
storm osprey
Best Buy apparently has 3080s for launch.
violet plank
seems all have a few,question is how long will the stock last,1 or 2 ms? 
in the eu asus seems to have the highest stock
china his own brands
usa no clue
oce no clue as well
still,if the FE is about on the same noise level i would personally prefer a FE
storm osprey
I’m hoping since there is physical launch I can get one at an out of town Best Buy.
violet plank
and if it has a fan stop function,i wouldn't want a card anymore without that
so you're gonna camp a store?
supple bane
@pple
violet plank
amd has leaked their new reference cooler
bleh,the apple event 15.sept is only about the new watch and ipad air
molten coral
It finally arrived @storm osprey
glossy plinth
is that a streamerdeck
molten coral
No, it's a DAC and AMP
violet plank
prime jasper
Dang, the 3090 is huge.
wanton carbon
I used to have a 1050 ti but I couldn’t run shit
idk if it was because I had 4gb of ram tho
supple bane
it was because of that
wanton carbon
oh
supple bane
1050ti can run most games, not great. but it can
wanton carbon
ik it can run ark a bit
but I used to try and play gta v but it would lag and the floor would disappear
prime jasper
3090 might actually be able to run Microsoft Flight sim on ultra at 144fps
violet plank
no idea,don't have that game
wanton carbon
what can a 2080 ti run fs2020 on
fallen harbor
it was because of that
no it really wasn't because of that
the 1050ti is just slow for 60fps in high settings in demanding games, this isn't due to its memory capacity
memory capacity has little to do with the raw power
rx570 (4gb) is at least 30% stronger than the 1050ti (4gb)
1060 (3gb) is aproximately 50% stronger than the 1050ti (4gb)
fallen harbor
he said ram, not dram, and he was talking about the gpu so i naturally assumed he was referring to vram
if he truly had 4gb dram then yeah that was bottlebecking him
storm osprey
so you're gonna camp a store?
@violet plank i might actually xD
It finally arrived @storm osprey
@molten coral that looks so cool
fallen harbor
anybody knows when the supposed 3060 might come out?
storm osprey
2021...
fallen harbor
Q1?
wanton carbon
wtf
violet plank
if amd is pushing the mid sector real hard,which i guess they will,nvidia will counter fast
wanton carbon
pewdiepie used to use 2x 1080 ti
violet plank
q1=first quarter
fallen harbor
q1=first quarter
oh ok
fallen harbor
wdym
he just felt he didnt have enough with the best thing available so he put two of them
plus he's multimillionaire
didn't cost him a thing
he probably didn't even need anything more than a 1060 but when you are rich you dont think about limitations
fallen harbor
you just get the best available thing because you have nothing to lose
supple bane
pewdiepie used to use 2x 1080 ti
@wanton carbon that's nothing lol
Linus did a build with 2x titan rtx's 
fallen harbor
it's nothing today
probably was a big thing when the 1080ti came out
which is most likely the time he had that
supple bane
Yeah, but even then. A titan build would be more impressive
fallen harbor
sli sucks though
supple bane
Aye
wanton carbon
I mean
fallen harbor
i love the design of the 1080ti founders edition, it's my favorite design of all. I'd get a ma¡lfunctioning one just so i can expose it and look at it
wanton carbon
isn’t the 1080 like 500 pounds or some shit
fallen harbor
it's probably legit. That's exactly what happened before anyway
wanton carbon
OMFG I can’t watch shitty Netflix
clear horizon
Shitty netflix? XD
turbid verge
sounds fake, normally crypto miners dont aim for those kind of cards
rn the meta is using a certain type of GPU's mainly build for mining
why is this a thing 
storm osprey
yea, even though i think FE doesnt look good, it looks a lot better than all the 3080 aftermarket cards ive seen so far
turbid verge
@storm osprey I actually love the FE edition
simple, neutral colours
actually using a cooling system that is not very popular but works and has been proven before
not crapy RGB and now displays
I dont mind backplates they are easy to clean the back of the card
floral fjord
that looks like aids with plastic shit on it
fallen harbor
which are the latest i7 and i9 releases?
storm osprey
Define good...
glossy plinth
something that gives you the first impression like
ooooooo
not like
what is this shit
storm osprey
Well performance metrics (which really should be the only thing that matters) are not available yet so the only gauge is how they look, which is subjective.
prime jasper
Linus did a build with 2x titan rtx's
@supple bane They're very similiar.
glossy plinth
Linus, the god
lofty light
primal pier
Is this thy truth
lofty lake
Router vs. Fridge
lofty light
Honestly I've been surprised more people didn't realise that the specs of the two are the same, the Xbox is just higher clocked
glossy plinth
overall design, ps5 wins
lofty light
lofty light
Because AMD have always made the console hardware and that's what the games are designed for specifically
glossy plinth
ah alright
strong breach
fellow kids
gotta have all the epic memes running in your GPUs LCD screen @turbid verge
violet plank
really hope it's about big navi and not zen 3.which we already know will kick Intel's ass even further
violet plank
evga kingpin with 360 aio,don't wanna know the price lol
will be hell of a nice card tho
23 power stages,500W tdp inc
ivory creek
my gpu is only being used to 70% and my cpu to 25% yet i dont get my targeted 60fps
!?!?!
it stays at around 50-55
ivory creek
but shouldnt it keep pushing resources till it hit 60fps
glossy plinth
i mean like my cpu used to have like
super high usage
then i enabled SMT and it's not at low usage
during gameplay
ivory creek
i got a ryzen 9 3900x and its around 20% usage like yours i dont think theres any problem there, what disturbs me is that my gpu isnt used fully
depending on game they might not take use of smt, some games even perform better with smt off
or so i heard
glossy plinth
what gpu do you got
ivory creek
an old gtx 1070
glossy plinth
bottlenecckkk
ivory creek
well it still doesnt use that gpu full out
so idk
im going to upgrade to an rtx 3080 tho
so we'll see then
glossy plinth
i hope my cpu wont be bottlenecked with a 3070
prime jasper
I think the 3090 wins
fickle valve
yeah 3090 should win last gen fastest gpu from amd 5700xt is comparable to 2070s so it's unlikely they will make something in a year which will beat something that has twice the performance of 2080ti
supple bane
my first guess is bottleneck
@glossy plinth you cant bottleneck a cpu in gaming
for a cpu to be "bottlenecked" the gpu needs to be pinned at 100%. but you WANT that to happen.
the cpu only needs to keep up with the gpu. if the cpu can keep up with creating frames, great
if your cpu cant keep up, then the gpu will slow down in creating frames, and then you got a bottleneck
fickle valve
it's not cpu bottleneck the reason it isn't utilizing 100 percent of the gpu is cz of bad optimization and the game isn't utilizing all the cores in the cpu again it's optimization issue.
violet plank
lmao,i knew it,horizon is already capping out the 10gb vram of the 3080
vram bottleneck inc 
(at least in 4K)
dlss seems to work extremely well on ampere
average % gain is way lower than on the nvidia marketing slides
50-60% gain on a 3080 vs 2080s
so like 25-30% vs a 2080ti
tested on games like borderlands 3,forza,ac odyssey,horizon,bfv
shadow of the tomb raider 4k native to 4k dlss 70->100fps
source
china
gonna post the source vid in a few moments
prepare to unleash your chinese language skills
skip about half forward for the benches
first ones are synthetics
again,dlss is fucking impressive,hope amd's counterpart is somewhere near it
amd counters
lost siren
hi guys
if there is anyone from EA/Dice that is reading this please help me out ...
why do the button on the page dont work : https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2142?isLocalized=true
"Buy Now on Origin " Dont Work ... ? 
violet plank
hypetrain
strong breach
ah right
still too late tho
people are getting NVIDIA without watching what AMD has
violet plank
just watch the benchmarks from the 3080,i'd say it's worth to wait (if you can)
violet plank
most of all 10gb vram is just not enough,not futureproof at all
violet plank
there will be a 3080ti soon and also the 20gb version of the 3080
violet plank
horizon caps out the 10gb of the 3080 in 4k
faaaaaail
not sure,maybe the 3080ti will get gddr6 and not the x version
much cheaper
my reaction for the first real game benches of the 3080 is like,nope,gonna wait
prime jasper
prepare to unleash your chinese language skills
@violet plank As a chinese american I barely understood that.
violet plank
mandarin?
prime jasper
I speak Cantonese
violet plank
ah
prime jasper
The 2 are somewhat similiar.
supple bane
sounds like you are starting to lose hope
violet plank
actually the opposite lol
just hoped i can get a new card sooner
but the 10gig 3080 is just out of question for me
and the 3090,well, bit expensive
opaque saddle
@prime jasper no way they aren't that similar...
prime jasper
A little bit
opaque saddle
the words are different
i meant the use of words
People were actually quite surprised i can speak and write in those languages @violet plank
went to uni and those chinese international students didnt know i can fully understand their convo coz they all thought i dont look the one who are able to understand what they said
My chinese friend told me the Mandarin external exam is gonna be difficult for me, it turns out i got a B for that (he got an A)
violet plank
haha nice one,love those moments too
storm osprey
most of all 10gb vram is just not enough,not futureproof at all
@violet plank it seems theres a very little amount of games that are really pushing 10gb of vram even at 4k though
fallen harbor
he said not futureproof, not not current day proof
storm osprey
whats the time frame on future proof? whats the thresh hold on when "not good enough" is actually universal?
violet plank
pc games not so much a problem (atm at least),but console ports,hell those are already vram eaters from hell
for me a gpu has to last at least 2 years no matter what comes
i always go higher than i need now
storm osprey
i highly doubt a 3080 wont last 2 years on 4k with 10gb of ram being the cited problem
violet plank
and i'm in the lucky position to not be on a budget,keep that in mind as well
take gta v,a 8? year old game,easy to overcap 10gig already without any mods...
in the end it depends on what you want or what your expectations are i guess
mine are high
storm osprey
im saying that likely more than 95% of modern games coming out will be fine on 10gb at 4k for years to come
theres almost always going to be the outliers like gta v, but that doesnt apply a general statement like "10gb isnt enough"
and im wondering if the "max settings" on gta v are with max AA as well
violet plank
there are a lot outliers actually,but you can play those with 4 gb vram as well
storm osprey
which is a big vram resource, and practically moronic to use on 4k
violet plank
but then it gets swapped to your ram or ssd,which means slower i/o
which can result in stutters
storm osprey
again, are we talking "max" with AA as well? because thats just a dumb setting to use at 4k to waste vram
storm osprey
found an article that said 14gb of vram at 4k for gta v is with max anti aliasing
violet plank
i want everything possible to be in the vram and nowhere else to avoid any kind of (micro)stutters,i'm just allergic af to those
violet plank
ye,but i want at least a low lvl of aa
storm osprey
and for any decent PPI you wouldnt even need AA unless you want a "smoothed" image
the only time i use any AA at 1440p on 27" is when i cant turn it off
violet plank
unless i play competitive only fps,there i don't give a fuck
storm osprey
all AA does is blur the image
fallen harbor
just dont use aa, just dont use ultra settings, just dont use 4k, just dont use 144hz
violet plank
but i'm not only playing fps
storm osprey
just dont use aa, just dont use ultra settings, just dont use 4k, just dont use 144hz
@fallen harbor no AA at high resolutions is a completely justifiable response though.. youre dramatic responses are just petty
violet plank
like i love playing witcher 3 with texture mods for example,no way in hell to play that smoothly with such low vram amount
storm osprey
i wouldnt call 10gb of vram low
violet plank
not low,just not enough for that usage scenario
and that's why i'm saying not future proof at all (for me)
storm osprey
it just seems like youre coming off that nvidia is ripping us off on vram, when thats not the case
violet plank
i'm talking about me ffs
storm osprey
which i now know that you want a lot of vram for your own reasons, but you say things in a general way
fallen harbor
the total memory of the 3080 is inproportional to its raw power is what isuni means, to which i think i have to agree
storm osprey
you are a very very small minority i would assume
violet plank
that's racist
storm osprey
considering 4k gaming is probably less than 2% of the entire gaming base in the first place
storm osprey
1440p is low to
fallen harbor
it doesnt really matter what isuni wants though, I have low standards but I can still see that the 3080 has very little memory compared to its raw power
storm osprey
i just saw gamers nexus run down on steams resolutions
was something like 40% at 1080, 5% at 1440p, and 2% at 4k
violet plank
i mean,buy what you want,i'd love to get a 3080,but not with 10gb,gonna wait for the 20gb,or the 16gb 3080ti or navi 16gb
nope 1440p is way higher now
but on the other hand on steam you'll see a lot on 720p as well
laptop gamers
storm osprey
fallen harbor
6% play above 1080p
"1920 x 1080 is the primary display resolution for over 62% of Steam users. That’s not surprising on its own, but over 30% game at even lower pixel counts. The second most popular resolution is the budget laptop-friendly 1366 x 768, accounting for over 13% of users."
1440p consists of 4% of the total
fallen harbor
shrug
storm osprey
i really dont see how 10gb is considered in any way a rip off of vram personally
violet plank
maybe i'm mixing something up even
that might be true for you,but isn't at all for me 😉
storm osprey
and i plan on maxing everything (expect AA, thats just silly)
opaque saddle
nah i dont think thats true tbh
violet plank
then never play horizon
opaque saddle
depends on the number of people who actually finished the survey
storm osprey
so far the list of games i cant completely max out on 10gb of vram at 4k sounds like horizon and gta
violet plank
there are a lot more lol
maybe just none you play/played
for those you don't even need 4k
storm osprey
ive not because my 1080 is not a good 4k card so i havent even tried
opaque saddle
i think 1080p is fine for most of the people
violet plank
ofc 1080p is fine for most
storm osprey
but ive been trying to do research lately on why 10gb is bad per some people and i personally cant find anything
violet plank
all i'm trying to say it isn't for me lol
opaque saddle
i meant fine
storm osprey
almost every articles says 8gb is what you need for 4k
violet plank
it's like saying games will never use more than 16gb ram
fallen harbor
i never found any reason to go beyond 1080p tbh. I can appreciate it in a movie but i feel videogames aren't good enough to look prettier at 4k than on 1080p at least for me. I'd rather aim for higher frame rates than resolution
violet plank
and bfv already sucks 17gb when i play lol
opaque saddle
i got 32gb of ram
violet plank
same
storm osprey
iirc there was an article that had bfv in the list and said surprisingly at 4k it only used 6gb of vram iirc
fallen harbor
what settings does the PS4 play on
most likely medium settings
glossy plinth
lmao 6% barely play above 1920x1080
wanton carbon
LOW
violet plank
ps4pro is 1080p by default or 1440p checkerboard
glossy plinth
my 5700xt cant handle 1440p
wanton carbon
I was thinking they played medium
opaque saddle
nah it would be all on low
wanton carbon
switching to pc we defo worth it then
storm osprey
my 5700xt cant handle 1440p
@glossy plinth isnt the 5700xt a decent 1440p card?
opaque saddle
coz the gpu is really slow coz it was released in 2013
violet plank
the 5700xt should be able to handle 1440p easy
wanton carbon
as I can run ultra and get 70-80
glossy plinth
yeah but can the 5700xt run 1440p on 240fps
violet plank
lol
wanton carbon
nope
opaque saddle
lmao
violet plank
240fps...
wanton carbon
2 weeks it’s gonna be gone for
storm osprey
uhhh.. the entry for a "good" 1440p card is not "if it can hit 240 fps"
opaque saddle
i called that impossible
violet plank
sry but 
glossy plinth
the way how i see it
wanton carbon
I wonder what the ps5 will play on then
glossy plinth
anything below a rtx 2080ti is considered low end
wanton carbon
probs high
storm osprey
are there even 1440p 240hz monitors?
violet plank
4k 60fps MAX
storm osprey
mmk, raht trolling now
glossy plinth
yeah there is
opaque saddle
lmao
glossy plinth
samsung oddysey
fallen harbor
I wonder what the ps5 will play on then
probably medium settings in the first two years and then lower settings as time goes
and games become more demanding
wanton carbon
oh shit
storm osprey
anything below a rtx 2080ti is considered low end
i cant take this serious...
wanton carbon
console is wank then
fallen harbor
yes but its cheap
fallen harbor
and more than enough for casual players
glossy plinth
i cant take this serious...
even my friend said those exact same words
opaque saddle
right cool
storm osprey
if you 2 are serious youre either uneducated or trolling...
i cant sugar coat that any other way
opaque saddle
dont take this seriously lmao
fallen harbor
anything below a rtx 2080ti is considered low end
sorry but this is stupid
low end would be 1660 and below
wanton carbon
^
wanton carbon
I have a 1660 super NOOO lollll
fallen harbor
1660 super is mid end
glossy plinth
low end - gtx 980ti - rtx 2080super
mid end - rtx 2080ti - 3060
high end - 6900xt - 3090
wanton carbon
1660 super is alright tbf
fallen harbor
who died
wanton carbon
🤣
fallen harbor
low end - gtx 980ti - rtx 2080super
mid end - rtx 2080ti - 3060
high end - 6900xt - 3090
dude you have to compare the current gen
this is a super unfair comparison
wanton carbon
^
opaque saddle
anyway i got to go
glossy plinth
thats how i see graphics cards lol
fallen harbor
1650 and 1650s are low end
1660, 1660s, 2060 and 2060s are probably mid end
anything above this is high end
opaque saddle
remember you have think of reality
fallen harbor
thats how i see graphics cards lol
the way you see them = / = the way they are considred to be
opaque saddle
lmao
wanton carbon
I would say the 2060 is high end tbf already for another year
violet plank
wanton carbon
how long will they be making the 3000 series gpus
storm osprey
till at least tomorrow
glossy plinth
even my gpu is considered low end
wanton carbon
till at least tomorrow
@storm osprey real answers only LOLLLLLL
storm osprey
uhhh, at least a year, maybe 2 years, at most 3 years (but likely with a refresh of sorts if it lasts as long as 3 years)
wanton carbon
if they make them for about 2-3 years I am gonna upgrade to one
storm osprey
hell even a refresh at 2 years is likely if you use 2000 series for reference
wanton carbon
how long would my gpu last
glossy plinth
can finally use 360hz with those 3000s gpu
glossy plinth
yeah
storm osprey
the human eye can only see 24 fps
wanton carbon
what
glossy plinth
kekw
storm osprey
thats why movies are shot at 24 fps
fallen harbor
how long would my gpu last
last for what?
wanton carbon
in years
fallen harbor
is your monitor 1080p and 60hz?
glossy plinth
1080p 240hz for me
fallen harbor
your pc is more meant to run mdoern games at 1080p and 60hz. You can do more ofc but it wont last much more running future demanding games in 144hz
as for 1440p on 60fps, it will last several years
even more years in 1080p and 60fps
like, really several
you shouldnt worry
wanton carbon
7 years
fallen harbor
unless you really want 144hz and high settings
wanton carbon
for a graphics card
woah
I get about 80+hz and I played on medium /High on bfv when I played
fallen harbor
i have an i5 8400 and rx590 and i am happy with 1080p and 60fps so this pc will be good for me for several years. Hard to tell exactly until when of course, but long enough for me to forget about it for now
and your pc is better than mine
wanton carbon
yeah
fallen harbor
both your cpu and gpu are sligthly superior than mine
fallen harbor
your pc isn't good enough for your monitor
so
it's the other way around
actually
dusty hearth
Should I get a aftermarket cpu cooler for a Ryzen 7 3700x?
glossy plinth
remember to only buy 60hz or 144 or 240 or 360
wanton carbon
?
fallen harbor
Should I get a aftermarket cpu cooler for a Ryzen 7 3700x?
only if you plan on overclocking or doing similar crazy shit
wanton carbon
I’m hopping my moniter will last for atleast 5 years
dusty hearth
alright thank you lmao
wanton carbon
hoping *
fallen harbor
ice
wanton carbon
Yh
fallen harbor
you will never make full use of your monitor
with your pc
so your monitor will last until the end of times
wanton carbon
oh sweet
fallen harbor
as long as its attached to your pc
your monitor is too good for your pc so your pc will get old faster than your monitor
wanton carbon
my gpu has 2 hdmi slots that I’m using , is that anything bad
like slowing it down kinda thing
fallen harbor
no
you have two computers connected to it?
oh you said gpu not monitor
my bad
if you have your gpu connected to two monitors, then yes, it can lower the performance if you are extending your screen between the two
but if you only switch between them, it should be fine
wanton carbon
I game on the one infront of me and then the one is on the side kinda thing
which I use for temps while playing and discord and other shit
fallen harbor
i have mine connected to a monitor and a tv. I never use them at the same time, I switch between them depending on which i feel like using
wanton carbon
yeah
glossy plinth
woahh a tv
wanton carbon
is there such thing as a 144hz tv etc
fallen harbor
which I use for temps while playing and discord and other shit
im not sure if this can lower the performance or not tbh
i should try it myself and check
fallen harbor
is there such thing as a 144hz tv etc
yes. My tv is pretty old though, it's only 60hz and 1080p. It's a 2011 sony 40 inches model
i bought it second hand from my father
it's more than enough for me, so im happy with it
wanton carbon
yeah
I bought everything new for my setup apart from my chair and desk which I already had
I used some old keyboard mouse and pad but then I got some new ones
when I played console I always bought second hand things so I felt like getting some new things I have always liked since I seen them
fallen harbor
i see
wanton carbon
gotta treat yourself one day 😂
I’m only 13 tho so I had to wait a few weeks and things to get some stuff
fallen harbor
wanton carbon
I got my mic , mouse and keyboard for my birthday, I sold all my console tv controllers and games and got enough for a pc 
glossy plinth
@fallen harbor do you know anything about eq presets?
wanton carbon
😂
violet plank
hmm,amd is really going against the ga-102 with navi 21,this could be interesting
storm osprey
Should I get a aftermarket cpu cooler for a Ryzen 7 3700x?
@dusty hearth if you do i recommend arctic liquid freezer 2
glossy plinth
NZXT kraken
magic gust
coarse beacon
that moment when you don't get enough speed with your current Wifi card so you upgrade one
(my WiFi card can't keep up with my WiFi anymore cuz of interference so I got one that is 5ghz capable)
violet plank
2 more hours until the ampere nda falls
violet plank
as much as i like the design,the power connector placement is just utter crap
3090 btw
dusty hearth
why does it look small lmao
violet plank
the 3080 20gb vram version has an 799$ msrp,dunno if i would bite my own ass buying the standard version rn
errant cairn
All those apps do is take up space
You can just go into settings and do it there
You could also do a factory reset, it'll wipe everything and the virus
lofty light
Unless it's that one that plagued android recently that survived factory resets
errant cairn
Oof
storm osprey
@violet plank yea the design is growing on me, but that cable placement is poo xD
i understand why its short, they are including this in the box, but its so fucking ugly
violet plank
if only seasonic would release that 12 pin cable,would make things way easier (and better looking) @storm osprey
dusky arrow
it is what it is
strong breach
storm osprey
LOL someone made it a gif already xD
molten coral
lmao
storm osprey
hess best admin because of that gif
supple bane
5000% faster heh
wanton carbon
my computer is now in the process of being fixed 🙂
strong breach
what's wrong with it :(
strong breach
i get flashbacks
wanton carbon
it turned on but I couldn’t play any games apart from minecraft 😂
strong breach
when i got delieved a flawed CPU
strong breach
it just bluescreened no matter what you did you it
strong breach
i7-9700k
wanton carbon
is that a razer keyboard 😳
strong breach
yes!
wanton carbon
YAYYY
storm osprey
does it have a built in wrist rest?
wanton carbon
finally someone who likes razer 🤣
strong breach
keyboard is the only Razer product i actually like
wanton carbon
oh
strong breach
:)
storm osprey
razer: mice >>>>>>> keyboard > everything else
strong breach
does it have a built in wrist rest?
@storm osprey also yes
storm osprey
well, razer apparently made a good budget headphone
wanton carbon
KIND OF
strong breach
which now has been expanded by my hand
storm osprey
damn cats
storm osprey
ehh, most reviewers dont know poo
strong breach
I blame the cat
storm osprey
jesus christ
wanton carbon
I would never get a razer speaker , headset hangar , or there headphones
strong breach
it's still soft anyway
storm osprey
yea i was thinking a paw print indentation
wanton carbon
yeah the razer west’s are memory foam
but I think that Corsair can be the same as razer with the prices sometimes tbh
wanton carbon
cats are annoying when u pick them up , to cuddle them and then they pissing claw you
strong breach
mine are pretty chill
wanton carbon
there claws are like a built in fork
molten coral
Hess has a cute cat
strong breach
i know this is technology channel but this is the guilty entity who started it all
wanton carbon
fair enough
molten coral
hecking chonker
wanton carbon
aww
strong breach
ruining my shit
wanton carbon
loll
supple bane
is it just the photo, or is she thicc af?!
strong breach
she do be thicc and fluffy
molten coral
Didn't you have a black one as well ? 
wanton carbon
I swear down half of them are like 200 pound
strong breach
they're pretty expensive
but i'd obviously go for the latest
and if that's too much
go for i5
strong breach
CPU barely effects in ingame fps unless you stream or do actual work like rendering
wanton carbon
yeah
molten coral
8700k-9700k are fine as well if you want to save some money and don't care if it isn't the latest cpu
wanton carbon
I don’t really know the difference between the ghz but someone said a 3ghz + is best
strong breach
i'd go for AMD CPU's right now honestly
molten coral
could wait for the new cpus
wanton carbon
I would probs get ryzen as they ARE cheaper and the fact I could overclock in the future if I had a good enough cooler , but I would like to get a i7 if it’s not to expensive
strong breach
yee new CPU's behind the corner
wanton carbon
I’m talking for about 2-3 years time so yeah I probs will
strong breach
just like GPU's
storm osprey
what cpu you would get depends on budget and "needs"
but its basically a fact right now that amd's ecosystem is a way better bang for buck value
(especially considering that intels cpus right now are waaay over msrp)
molten coral
my next build will have a AMD CPU
wanton carbon
I wanna get a 3070 tbf in about 2-3 years time if I can
storm osprey
im likely going with the 4600
for 1440p the gaming performance lead that intel has doesnt really translate
wanton carbon
what cpu is that , I don’t know the model nos LOLL
wanton carbon
ohh
storm osprey
3600 is the bang for buck gaming pick right now, 4600 should be the next gen version of that
storm osprey
yep
wanton carbon
ohhh I get it now
storm osprey
but the gaming performance jump from 2600 to 3600 was pretty big
storm osprey
are you talking i5, i7, i9?
wanton carbon
ryzen and intel yeah
storm osprey
not entirely sure what you are asking honestly
dusky arrow
All I can say it is what it is
storm osprey
wanton carbon
so the ryzen 5 4600 is coming out soon
storm osprey
wanton carbon
does the ryzen 7 and ryzen 9 have a new generation coming out too
storm osprey
likely, but thats speculation of course
just gotta wait till the 8th to see what they announce
anything above ryzen 5 isnt really recommended unless you are doing production/streaming
wanton carbon
ohh
storm osprey
ryzen 5 goes up to 6c12t, above that is marginal clock speed increase but more core counts, which games hardly use more than 6c12t
broken pond
hey can someone please help me with this battlefield 1 puzzle easter egg i need it for the peacekeeper
storm osprey
@broken pond you dont gotta post this in ever channel, just try #battlefield-legacy-titles
or BFEE
!!bfee
!bfee
whatever
broken pond
bet thanks
lofty light
@dawn rapids do not advertise your video outside #streams-and-videos
storm osprey
uhhhh, maybe "pro-sumer"?
glossy plinth
the higher is the number model the better it is
digital hill
enthusiast would be ryzen 7
ryzen 9 is bascially professional work with all those cores
lofty light
Na 9 is enthusiast, threadripper is professional
lofty light
What a shock
green lintel
I felt so bad for the guys who actually bought the rtx 2000 series for 1200$ XD
lilac surge
Ecks dee
violet plank
lmao,even the 3060 ti (october) will have 8gb vram,the 3080 10g is really in a bad placement imo
the shop i usually buy from removed all 3080/90 cards
opaque saddle
Sounds like a card designed for specific markets
storm osprey
@violet plank where does it say it gets hot and loud? And supposedly ti/super versions are getting more vram than their non special versions.
winged tapir
@molten coral I ordered the Rode mic arm today and lots of more stuff for project desk 😄
Rip my wallet
molten coral
nice
I also started with project ''desk'' today
Ordered an adjustable electric desk and a monitor arm.
F to my wallet as well 
winged tapir
I ordered so much today
molten coral
electric desk is pretty expensive almost 550 buckerinos
winged tapir
ah no it should be Monitor-/mic arm
molten coral
oh
winged tapir
yeah i have a wireless headset currently and I own a soundcard which is amazing so I wanted to take advantage of it and went for studio headphones
winged tapir
I would guess so
molten coral
200 euro for a monitor arm 
violet plank
@violet plank where does it say it gets hot and loud? And supposedly ti/super versions are getting more vram than their non special versions.
@storm osprey that's some insider info i got from a reviewer,but that's all info i received so far,no values or anything
molten coral
The best thing about it is that I'll get a lot of space on the desk
molten coral
my stand literally takes 50% of my desk in width
violet plank
don't wanna know the amount of cables running behind the desk lol
winged tapir
a lot
molten coral
dunno why everyone is always so obsessed with the cables
molten coral
I'll have some cleaning to do when the monitor arm arrives
violet plank
but black looks like a dirt magnet?
molten coral
I've so much cables behind my monitor
storm osprey
@violet plank ok, so it being loud and hot doesnt have to do with the link you provided? i kept reading it trying to find it xD
violet plank
get a cable canal under the desk,solves like 90% of the mess
@violet plank ok, so it being loud and hot doesnt have to do with the link you provided? i kept reading it trying to find it xD
@storm osprey lol no,couldn't separate it cause i wrote that like instantly after
storm osprey
gotcha, now i dont feel like an idiot
violet plank
lol
winged tapir
Same, my monitor arm offer space for cable management
glossy plinth
remember to only buy 240hz monitors, like its 2020 lol
winged tapir
but i got the order for the cable canal so i hope to get rid of some free flying cables
violet plank
i mean 320/350W heat has to go somewhere,that's to be expected,but i really hoped for silent FE cards
since it's pretty much confirmed they have a zero fan mode
storm osprey
im wondering if 3 fan cards are really the only way to get them silent
sand phoenix
yo rephii u got the same case as me
storm osprey
considering we havent even seen a 3080 aftermarket card not have triple fans
winged tapir
NZXT yeah 😄
sand phoenix
next time i buy one ill remember to check how many usb ports it has 
storm osprey
fractal design > phanteks > NZXT
winged tapir
NZXT ❤️
violet plank
im wondering if 3 fan cards are really the only way to get them silent
@storm osprey good question
storm osprey
i mean, whats a better dual fan case set up than FE when the whole thing is basically heat spreader?
violet plank
guess there is none
on the other hand,what's for one person "loud" is for the other normal
we'll know by monday latest
personally for me i just want that zero fan mode when in desktop mode
can't get worse than the ps4 jet engine
vocal void
Wdym PS4 jet engine
violet plank
storm osprey
yea, even the asus tuf models are triple slot, i cant find any 3080 right now that is dual fan
molten coral
nice
violet plank
cheap and easy
molten coral
I'm going to IKEA when I've my desk
The desk will also be bigger than my current one so i'm excited for it
supple bane
My cable management is Terrible when looked at by the front it's near perfect. But if you look behind the curtains it's awful
molten coral
Can finally have my laptop and books on the table
violet plank
most important thing is brrrt,brrrt
molten coral
brrrrrt
supple bane
Eh?
supple bane
Ahhh
strong breach
pretty small table
strong breach
16cm x 8cm
supple bane
My desk is tiny I think, I dont actually know the measurements
strong breach
winged tapir
I am thinking about putting down the PC again to get more space
violet plank
bright side of a small desk,you can always upgrade
winged tapir
but it looks so nice on top :C
supple bane
Yeah that's the thing tho isuni
molten coral
I kinda want my PC on the wall
supple bane
I dont want to change my desk, cuz I only just built the desk pc
violet plank
yeah i know granty
supple bane
105x50cm
violet plank
ah lol
violet plank
guess it would annoy me after a few days
molten coral
I don't like that either
supple bane
It looks cool, but it would get annoying
supple bane
The rear io becomes useless
You put things in it permanently then you cant really hot swap like a phone charger or sommot
violet plank
i always have to think about charlie brown when you say that with the cart lol
supple bane
Same issue I have with my desk
storm osprey
whats charlie brown gotta do with a cart?
molten coral
a cart will never work for me as my house isn't just 1 floor
supple bane
What was your reason for needing a cart again?
violet plank
supple bane
And why cant you just, pick it up?