future proof your PC as much as you can
#technology
quaint topaz
wanton carbon
how long do cpu's last for , like how long should until you get a new cpu ??
supple bane
depends
if you buy an i9 10900k, it will last you 6-7 years. if you buy an athlon 3000G it will probably last you 2
quaint topaz
I've used a lot of mice, for some reason nothing beats the G502
Also tried the Glorious Model O, hated it. Felt like I was playing games with a feather, and the honeycomb design is meh.
lofty lake
I was about to buy the g502 but it looks so weird and i think it will feel bad in your hand
quaint topaz
many people love it but when I tried it it just didn't feel comfortable especially since I have a fairly large hand
latent light
@lilac surge need at least $1000 AUD for a PC that's considered decent
A Ryzen 3 with integrated graphics will perform far worse than a Xbox One or PS4
If you're looking to play games
digital hill
That's why i have a corsair dark core rgb as it quite comfortable with my big hands
opaque saddle
@lilac surge if you want to get budget prebuilt, check out ozbargain and see whether you can get the one you wanted. (Remember to upgrade the PSU from the prebuilt)
I know Techfast do these sort of prebuilt but expected to pay a bit less or a bit more for the build
Ping me or dm me if you want to know more about getting these computers locally. Coz not everyone knows about the local pricing from our online retailers
pine pagoda
do you think guys GTX 1650 can work well with i7 9700K?
digital hill
Should be
pine pagoda
Which is worse, i5 4460 + GTX 1650, or i7 9700K + GTX 1650?
I have a new GTX 1650 at home and I am going to buy a new PC, but I will not buy graphics, yet.
opaque saddle
Why would you pair a 4460 or 9700k with a 1650 tho
pine pagoda
because i have 4460 on this moment
opaque saddle
Man the 9700k is overkilled
pine pagoda
i dont want Rayzen
opaque saddle
Cool there is no issue using 9700K or 10700 with the 1650
But you have to know the better your GPU, the CPU you picked will give you more FPS
pine pagoda
Now I have i5 4460 and GTX 1650, I can barely play PUBG, a lot of lag
opaque saddle
Your 4460 is quite slow for the 1650
I meant your GPU is fast (I meant not really that fast compared to the higher end products) but your CPU is unable to utilise your faster GPU
So if you get a better modern CPU, then it will gives you more Frames
pine pagoda
I meant your GPU is fast (I meant not really that fast compared to the higher end products) but your CPU is unable to utilise your faster GPU
@opaque saddle are u talking about my current i5?
ookok
opaque saddle
Yep your current i5 is 8 years old
pine pagoda
So I will continue to use GTX 1650, and in a few months I will buy RTX 2060
Yep your current i5 is 8 years old
@opaque saddle lol
opaque saddle
Well get a 9400/10400 then it works fine
pine pagoda
9400?
opaque saddle
But more likely you will be getting 9700k
Or maybe 9700
Yeah coz I will pair a 9700 with 2070
pine pagoda
I have a budget of € 1,200 / € 1,300 for my PC
pine pagoda
opaque saddle
I guess if you picked RYZEN then you can get a 2070Super
pine pagoda
I am going to try to preconfigure 2 PCs, one with intel and the other with Rayzen
but i prefer Intel much more
opaque saddle
I think the Nvme you are getting is overkilled
pine pagoda
I guess if you picked RYZEN then you can get a 2070Super
@opaque saddle wich rayzen
opaque saddle
3600
pine pagoda
im using 3 Discs, one for windows, other for games and one more for folders, gopro videos, documents etc
opaque saddle
The Samsung 970 plus you want to get, is a big ripoff
pine pagoda
I think the Nvme you are getting is overkilled
@opaque saddle the guy who helped me make the pc is a 1 million subs youtuber who has a 5K € pc ...
opaque saddle
I got the same part for 85 euros
pine pagoda
I cannot make one but I can recommend what to get man
@opaque saddle yes
opaque saddle
If you really want to stick with intel, the only downside is the cost of the processor
pine pagoda
pine pagoda
I have friends who have problems with Rayzen and his Bios
opaque saddle
You have to know which ram sticks can be pairs with your motherboard
opaque saddle
The motherboard manufacturers have a list of compatible RAM sticks
Avoid aliexpress
opaque saddle
Anyway as I said, drop the Samsung 970 EVO PLUS
pine pagoda
ok
opaque saddle
I don’t think you can use the full speed in games currently
Think about this, the 860 EVO takes 15S to load a map
pine pagoda
I don’t think you can use the full speed in games currently
@opaque saddle It is only for windows and basic programs
opaque saddle
Compared to the 970 EVO plus which takes 14S
opaque saddle
Unless you do content creations then it’s worth it
opaque saddle
But I rarely see myself using the full speed out of it
I don’t think I have ever use the full speed at all apart from benchmarking
pine pagoda
I must go now, I will add to my friends list and we will continue talking later
opaque saddle
Well so do I
Ping me if you need help. Otherwise it’s almost 4am and I need to sleep
Gn
pine pagoda
I really appreciate your help in helping people like me who don't understand computers very much, I was a PlayStation player but I really prefer PC
thx u man
Gn
@opaque saddle 19:43 spain xD
opaque saddle
@pine pagoda no worries mate
lilac surge
https://techguided.com/gaming-pc-under-500/
How would this be for a first ever PC build?
Would it run BFV at medium settings ~40-60 FPS?
supple bane
Yes
But It has some questionable hardware choices i think
For literally the same price you can get an rx 570/580 which is sooo much faster
strong breach
i would change that cpu too
supple bane
Yep, for the same price you can get a r5 2600 which is 6 core 12 thread, overclockable and most importantly has an incredible upgrade path
With the i3 you cant really upgrade to anything special, in theory with the r5 you could upgrade to amds entire lineup including the flagship 3950x
lilac surge
Would it run bfv at medium graphics?
supple bane
an rx 580 will run bf at ultra graphics
lilac surge
I’m literally just buying it because paying monthly for console multi is annoying and it’s got more exclusive games so it’s probably more than I expect lmao
supple bane
pc has many more advantages than just taht
supple bane
the one you sent isnt really
change it for a ryzen 5 2600 and an rx 580 and you are in a better spot
prime jasper
`need some advise .. does this motherboard MSI h6 1M-P31/w8 have a "dual width x16 graphics slot"? It has
Slots 1x PCIe Gen 3 x16 slot, supports up to PCIe 3.0 x16 speed
1x PCIe Gen 2 x1 slot
in its specs`
hmm a dual width PCI slot doesn't mean 2 x PCI slots, it just needs the space of 2 cards
the GPU only has 1 x PCI interface
misleading terminology
opaque saddle
749 AUD
and this 999 AUD
still slightly overpriced. nah i am not looking to buy a new pc
digital hill
Both seems overpriced
opaque saddle
We have 10% GST here otherwise it’s a good deal for people who wants prebuilt desktop.
The 3100 is overpriced for sure
prime jasper
I think good budget would be a Ryzen 5 and a 1660 with 1 tb ssd and 16 go ram
opaque saddle
well unfortunately it's a prebuilt
the 750w PSU needs to be upgraded to an 80+ bronze/gold
prime jasper
Yea
latent light
polar delta
fin-fets? I'll have to look that up
quiet sequoia
hey all, I was thinking about finally replacing my GTX970. It doesnt have to be a hi-end card...just a good replacement for my ultrawidescreen setup (2560x1080). Any ideas or directions I should look?
prime jasper
@quiet sequoia a 2060 super or an second hand 1080 would be amazing for it
prime jasper
@quiet sequoia, a 1660TI would probably be okay for it.
prime jasper
Intel i9 10900K kicks ass
mild bough
prime jasper
NO HOW COULD YOU
quiet sequoia
I guess I'll wait for the prices of the 3000 series and decide then. The asus 2060 strix costs around 400ish...maybe waiting is the best choice right now. Thx for the answers tho.
marsh birch
is 60-75fps at high settings considered good or normal at 1080p with a mobile r9 4900h and rtx 2060?
supple bane
For a laptop, yeah seems about right
marsh birch
@supple bane I thought since its an 8 core 16 thread it would be able to handle it a lot better
and since the game is a lot more dependent on the cpu than gpu
marsh birch
Ive been told otherwise with bfv
supple bane
Its just bfv is more cpu dependent than average
marsh birch
thats why with a top of the line gpu and i5 for example you get shite performance
supple bane
It's more cpu dependent the most games, but changing the GPU will have more effect than the CPU
marsh birch
hrmm
supple bane
The mobile 2060 is the slowest gpu on nvidias current lineup let's be fair
marsh birch
im just wondering that if perhaps my cpu can be tweaked or something that will let me take more advantage of my 144hz screen
ok
pearl ingot
Anyone know a good but cheep computer to get
supple bane
Build it
marsh birch
@supple bane when ive got the "Turbo" mode on my laptop the cpu is around 4450mhz
so
thats prolly not the problem?
marsh birch
16gb ram
supple bane
It might be single channel tho
Bf hates single channel ram
We are talking fps cut in half
dusty heath
Build your own, I did @pearl ingot
supple bane
My guess is you will have to take the laptop apart
marsh birch
bruh wtf bfv why lol
supple bane
Laptop manufacturers tend to install just one stick of ram for upgrade ability
It makes it easy for the consumer to just pop a new stick in and make it 32gb
supple bane
If both ram slots were occupied, the user would have to buy 2x16gb sticks if they wanted 32gb instead of just 1
supple bane
Yes
supple bane
It looks like the ram is under one of those black flaps I'm afraid
marsh birch
f
supple bane
If you want to make sure, just unscrew the panels from the bottom of the laptop
marsh birch
I might but
What is strange though, is IF this video is to be trusted, this guy with the same specs gets 106fps avg and 86 min, while my avg on the same settings is about 65
marsh birch
Even a weaker variant with similar specs but an 4800H got 82 avg fps on ultra
supple bane
Whilst your machine is idling. Open task manage and check cpu and GPU usages
You might have something sucking resources
supple bane
Nah, wont make any difference
marsh birch
alright ill be back
marsh birch
@supple bane thats alright lol, my gpu usage is around 1-2% on idle
but it bumps up to 13% when watching a video on chrome with video encoding
supple bane
Are you using future frame rendering?
marsh birch
hm yes
supple bane
Dx 11 or dx 12
marsh birch
no not dx12
it was automatically disabled
i can sc you my settings
hold on
mind if i dm?
supple bane
I'm out of ideas lol
marsh birch
thats ok
honestly im ok with this i just want to know if its the best my system can do, cuz i have a hunch its not
supple bane
Sorry I couldn't help more 
marsh birch
it ogey
urban light
Hello
storm osprey
Tee hee
thorn jacinth
hey, wanted to ask if I can run bf1 smoothly with this set up: Amd ryzen 2600 3.4 GH, Gtx 970, 16 GB Ram,
dusty heron
yes
latent light
I bet there's gonna be a 72 CU and 80 CU model
violet plank
something like 6700 and 6700xt would be my guess too
supple bane
inb4 what ever it is, it will probably have shitty drivers like the 5700 series 
violet plank
are they?or is a user based problem?there are a lot off ppl who have probs,and also much more who never had any
i mean,if you replace a nvidia card and don't ddu the drivers before installing a amd card 🤷♂️
supple bane
i know two people that have brought a 5700(xt), both with good technical knowledge, and both have unusable issues
violet plank
i personally never experienced any problems with nvidia nor amd drivers
supple bane
nyphon is one of those people
violet plank
unusable ?
supple bane
in both cases, it was just the system turning off without warning
violet plank
that sounds more like a hardware problem tho
supple bane
nyphons was maybe a hardware problem. the other person i know was defiantly not a hardware problem
violet plank
welp,gonna wait and see what the 3080ti delivers first,then i'm gonna decide
most of all what price 
my guess is 1500+
supple bane
how much was the 1080ti at launch?
violet plank
no idea,bought mine a year after
think i paid something like 800
2080ti was like 1300 at launch?
tall matrix
Can someone help me with something
I have a ps3 and ever since i left a campaing during a cutseen i havent been able to connect to ea servers and the game was done saving already
latent light
2080Ti MSRP was $999 USD
although cheapest I've seen one for was $1,050
most go for $1,200+
I think 3080Ti/3090 will be $1,500 minimum
Nvidia thinks AMD won't have a 3080Ti competitor so the 3080Ti will be way more expensive than the 3080 and 2080Ti
west skiff
Lol
formal skiff
Which looks better, 60 fps on ultra or 120+ fps on a mix of high and medium?
supple bane
depends on the person i guess
some people like it scenic. some people are competitive
formal skiff
I get like 10 kills a game so
Playing on a 50hz monitor until saturday when I buy my 144hz
Xd
supple bane
so for now. play on ultra, then on saturday, go low settings
formal skiff
If I care purely about how the game looks, would it be better to stick with ultra or no?
supple bane
obviously
formal skiff
So I'll do that
If I want to be more competetive on a fps I go on MW
If I wanna just have fun I come here
Well by be more competetive I mean
Idk
If I wanna care about how many kills I'm getting I go there
That works
split python
EEEEEEEE
latent light
AMD market cap hit $100 billion for the first time
Stock price is now $85
If you invested $1,000 to AMD shares in 2016, it would be around $50,000 now
digital hill
Damn I should have invested in AMD shares
wanton carbon
can someone help me please , on my home screen i have all my apps , and if i move one to the left right or up and down , all the other apps move , its so annoying , because everytime i start my pc up they are just all over the place
dm i have sorted the apps now
violet plank
september 17. sounds good for me
hope amd does not wait too long for their release
latent light
AMD is probably gonna be November for all their launches
fallen harbor
is there a release date for ps5 yet
violet plank
fallen harbor
is athlon 3000g good for a fast office pc?
the most graphical thing itd do is basic autocad
latent light
@fallen harbor yeah, there's a new Athlon out I think tho
tbh the 3000G will handle any task an office PC can do
fallen harbor
oh ok ty
latent light
I think since the Ryzen 3100 and 3300X have 4 cores/8 threads, the new Athlons will have 4 cores/4 threads instead of just 2 cores/4 threads on the 200GE/3000G
fallen harbor
is a320 the right mobo to go for?
fallen harbor
which do you recommend?
latent light
A320 came out 2017 while 3000G came out november 2019
fallen harbor
oic
latent light
most 300 series boards should come with a new BIOS but since you live in south america, you might get a board that's been in a warehouse for 2 years that's not updated
latent light
for an Athlon you don't need 500w
if you're using the integrated graphics on the CPU, even a 200w PSU will easily do the job
fallen harbor
cant find anything lower than 500, its just that there are very crappy 500w psus that cost close to nothing thats why
latent light
oh ok
fallen harbor
would post pics but i cant
latent light
shouldn't be a problem since a system with that CPU probably won't even draw 100 watts at peak
silk echo
5700xt or 2070 or 1080ti?
And is a 550W PSU enough to support any of this GPU's with an entire set up
latent light
latent light
oh fuck
this is very very very very bad
Intel's IP has been leaked, hacking will ensue
this is a bigger problem than the 7nm delay
this is maybe the biggest problem in the tech industry as of now
TL:DR - some hacker breached into Intel's IP data and mined a whopping 20GB of various data from source codes to instruction sets to development/debugging tools to drivers and software
rain swallow
Hey guys is there anyone who might be able to help me get a friend connected for once?
He can’t stay in for more than 30 seconds without being disconnected and we’ve done literally everything we can to try and get it sorted
fallen harbor
guys uh
the pc i just built wont show any display at all and won’t even make any alert noises
it just turns on but nothing shows
so theres no way i can know whats wrong
im worried
anybody has any ideas?
fallen harbor
pls my stress levels are off the chart
lime raft
What cpu brand and did you plug cable in mobo or gpu?
fallen harbor
nevermind the ram was in the wrong socket holy hell i wanted to cry
the motherboard is a b450m-a
is it normal to blink its lights very slowly?
the cpu is a ryzen 5 3600 and it seems its temp is pretty high tbh
reached 74c in bc2 after only 2 minutes
guess this pc will have to limit the frame rate to 60 globaly
can i do that with msi afterburner?
fallen harbor
Change cooler curves
i didn't know there were cooler curves for cpu fans?
prime jasper
@fallen harbor 74 c is fine
If you want to keep under 70c buy a CPU fan , amds stock fan not much of a help, as far as I know
lime raft
depending on how quiet your pc is you can change the curves slightly though so it runs bitter cooler if you feel better
i only got ryzen 9 3900x and 2080ti and x570 mobo
and that runs quiet hot tbh
fallen harbor
any ideas on why the front audio entries wont work?
auxiliar entry
idk the proper name tbh
prime jasper
@lime raft nice build
prime jasper
I heard rumors 7nm chips delayed to 2022
prime jasper
@lean cipher idk if it's true, just a rumor
lean cipher
yeah i know but you said that they are delayed till 2020
but we are already 2020
so that means 2021
i heard that as well
but i also heard that they were coming out with rocket lake a 14nm ++++++++++++++++++++
but i dont know when
prime jasper
Sorry, 2022
fallen harbor
i cant find anywhwere in the bios to enable the ps2 slots 😦
fallen harbor
is it possible for the front auxiliar audio ports of a relatively old case to be incompatible with the b450m-a?
the front usb are working but the front audio ports dont
lofty light
The audio ports would be using a different connector than the USBs, there may be a problem with that cable
latent light
@fallen harbor AMD A520 motherboards are coming soon, way cheaper than B450/B550
also out of box compatibility with Ryzen 3000 and 4000
fallen harbor
yeah too late for that
little walrus
sup y'all
molten coral
So the Galaxy note 20 which costs 1k has a plastic back and only has a 1080p screen
It's like Samsung doesn't want people to buy the normal version and just get the ''ultra'' version.
supple bane
that resolution really isnt needed on a phone
molten coral
It's noticable sharper though
wanton carbon
lmao i didnt even know ther could be different refresh rates on phones , i thought it was about 50 no matter what
fallen harbor
my friend's pc couldn't turn on after a power outage, then he could turn it on after a day and then couldnt turn it on again for some days etc
is his psu toasted?
or could it be another thing?
fallen harbor
what's an ups?
prime jasper
Utility power saving
It can keep the computer up for a few minutes depend on your ups va, and it only givea right power for the PSU, so it's doesn't overload,
So that way you can keep your PSU and pc both safe from electricity
fallen harbor
oic
supple bane
they are only really needed if you A.) live in the middle of no where. B.) its essential it must stay online, like a server. Or the country you live in has an underdeveloped/lacking electrical infrastructure.
but at the same time, a power cut wont damage hardware. you risk losing a document you was working on at most. Its power surges that are the danger, which is like the opposite of a power cut
prime jasper
@supple bane power cuts does dmg your parts, especially ups or harddrive, harddrive a are sensitive parts
supple bane
you would be having a really really bad fucking day if a sudden loss of power broke hardware
data loss/corrupt data maybe
prime jasper
Yea, that's why we got ups
Mostly PSU or Harddrive will broke after a power broke,
It's like 1/5 chance,
supple bane
i might be wrong. but im 99% sure a power cut wouldnt do damage.
a power surge yes. it will almost 100% brick something
prime jasper
Power cut does damage your parts mate
supple bane
how tho?
prime jasper
One time I lost my harddrive for that
I was playing power went and I couldn't turn on pc, checked it from store and hard is gone,
I cannot explain it good , because of my English knowledge , but there is a chance you get your stuff (mostly PSU or hard maybe even GPU) fry from a power cut
supple bane
i have had to shut of my powersupply due to a hard crash from overclocking at least 3 dozen times. and i have NEVER had broken hardware
prime jasper
It's not gonna happen like everytime we get a power cut, it's. Small chance but never zero
prime jasper
Okay
supple bane
we are both kinda right from some basic googling
the main issue is lost work and corrupt OS which i said
but it will reduce a harddrives life span
so it wont KILL hardware. but it will ware it down
prime jasper
Reduce and kill too, I don't know about your place, but it's mostly happens in here, that's why most of people use ups in here , better safe than sorry
supple bane
I have only had 1 power cut in my life so
A ups is the definition of a waste of money
prime jasper
Ups in here doesn't cost much
wanton carbon
whats the avarage price for a ssd , im sick of waiting 5 mins for ark to load up
prime jasper
I bought my pc like a month ago I already had 3 power cuts ,lmao
That's why your hardwares live longer , haha 
@wanton carbon in here it's 128gb is like 30 dollers, computer parts in here so expensive and it got more after Corona
supple bane
@wanton carbon a 1tb ssd would cost 100 pounds
wanton carbon
ohhh , some were like 150
supple bane
Probably m.2 NVME ssds
wanton carbon
would they just slot in where my hardrives are
supple bane
Some
wanton carbon
oh
supple bane
Some go directly onto the motherboard, that's called m.2
Some are the same connections as a hard drive, which is SATA
wanton carbon
Yeah , on my motherboard I have a 250 gb ssd
but I don’t really know how to transfer files so I’m gonna have to look into it , all my important stuff is on there
supple bane
Ctrl+c, ctrl+v
Copy and paste all your files onto your hard drive, change out the ssd then copy them back
wanton carbon
POG
supple bane
Although doing it that way will require you to reinstall windows
wanton carbon
ewww
supple bane
So I would say just get a normal sata ssd
supple bane
No
wanton carbon
🙂
supple bane
You can move game locations
wanton carbon
sweet
wanton carbon
yeah
supple bane
That would just be a case of plop it in and move your games, no funny business
wanton carbon
my case is so small lmao , don’t some cases have the ssd slots on the side of the case
supple bane
Honestly it doesnt really need a slot
wanton carbon
yeah , I have got into ark lately , and have just been grinding it , but when I log in and out it takes about 10 mins , but sometimes when I exit it freezes that hard I have to restart my pc
supple bane
You just gotta leave ark to do its thing
wanton carbon
Idk if it is my hhd itself or ark
supple bane
Both
wanton carbon
oh
supple bane
I do not recommend to anyone that they put ark on a hdd
prime jasper
Well ark is a big game
supple bane
It's just a bad idea
wanton carbon
yeah , does it lag because it’s on a hhd too , or is that ark just being ark
supple bane
I have found putting the game on borderless instead of fullscreen helps with the freezing on loading
prime jasper
Is it only the ark?
wanton carbon
yeah mainly , but sometimes on rust and bfv it freezes , like today I spawned in and it just froze and I chose a plane too 🤦♂️
prime jasper
You sure you have right requirements to play the game smooth?
wanton carbon
yeah
I play ark on medium settings , it can run high with like 60 FPS , but where my base is there is some massive ass base that has like 20 wyvern on a tree platform , and they have a load of trex’s , allos , and a few other little dinos
I have a 1660 super
prime jasper
1660 super is fine, then maybe it's hard, ask @supple bane
supple bane
I'd say put ark on the ssd you have tbh
It will probably be the only thing that will fit on there
But it will be worth it
prime jasper
@supple bane maybe os too?
wanton carbon
I am playing on the island rn lmao , I’m trying to play the game legit and do all the boss fights , I joined a tribe and we have some decent dinos lol
wanton carbon
I only have about 60 gb free on the ssd
supple bane
prime jasper
At first yea ,
wanton carbon
is that a Samsung
jade yacht
is that a Samsung
@wanton carbon yep it is
vestal prism
Aight
Can someone help me with setting up a PC
Ima be building one
And am thinking it should be under 1.5k
supple bane
@vestal prism I will chat about the best parts when I get home in a few hours
vestal prism
Oki doki
Ima be going to sleep soon so maybe dm me the stuff
Cus it’s late for me
wanton carbon
im thinking about overclocking my cpu
idk , im to worried incase i do it to much lmao
supple bane
You don't have an overclockable cpu @wanton carbon
supple bane
All AMD cpus can be overclocked
But with intel you need either a k or x cpu
Ie i7 7700k can be overclocked, but the i7 7700 cant
wanton carbon
INTEL is atually so bad
violet plank
opaque saddle
Only 3 years of updates?
molten coral
it was 2 years first and 3 years is pretty standard nowadays
crude osprey
I have a question; I recently replaced my motherboard and while everything works I think I need to do a clean w10 install
Mostly task scheduler keeps applying windows color settings on startup even though they're all disabled and nothing seems to fix it.
Last time I did an install, windows wouldn't/couldn't read my game drive and I ended up having to wipe it and reinstall my games.
There should be a way around that, shouldn't there?
digital hill
3 years damn
ios updates last 5-6 years
but I admit you do lose customization and other shit on ios
latent light
Portable computer that can configured with Threadripper or Epyc CPUs
All the way to 128 cores and 2TB RAM
wanton carbon
i think my pc is just messed up
supple bane
Why?
wanton carbon
so today i tried playing bfv and my game literally froze , and it was froze for that long i had to restart my pc , and then earlier i went on rust and it froze again , and i couldnt do anything
its so annoying
supple bane
Contact scan support
wanton carbon
im gonna try one more time
and if it dont i am gonna have too
OMFG i just found out why it probs wasnt working
i went on msi afterburner and the fanspeed was set to 25 WTF
steep talon
lul
molten coral
this is so satisfying
molten bramble
I too enjoy the audible noises of Mr. Rick Astly.
arctic dragon
Didn't expect to get rick rolled by a cpu cooler
latent light
slate rivet
anyone recommend a good laptop for around £600? DM pls
opaque saddle
not a recommendation but it can get you a 1660 level gaming laptop
wanton carbon
so my bfv still isnt working properly and my gpu tmeps are on about 65 which is normal when i play , its so annoying
i hope its not my cpu
wanton carbon
it just freezes , and when i do play its like i am using a shitty gpu on max settings
i am playing on medium and low settings rn to see if the settings was the problem and it isnt
latent light
what is your CPU
wanton carbon
intel i5 9400
latent light
how about RAM
wanton carbon
8gb
latent light
single or dual channel
wanton carbon
dual
i have a intel i5 9400 , 2x4 gb of ram and a 1660 super
but idk what the problem is
supple bane
Send me a screen shot of all your video settings
wanton carbon
ok
latent light
I've heard about overlay programs interfering with BFV
for example Discord and Nvidia Experience
1660 Super should easily hit 70 fps on ultra settings at 1080P
and shouldn't drop below 60 ever
wanton carbon
yeah
i play usually played on medium /high and got about 80-90 fps when im not in a big fight with explosions and stuff
idk if its a part in the actual pc thats getting to hot
latent light
only thing of a GPU that can make a game crash is a driver
latent light
Freezes can be game related, driver related or windows related
wanton carbon
like ark is fine
latent light
Also how much is your GPU being utilized?
wanton carbon
idek how do i check
latent light
Open task manager then go to the 'performance' tab
wanton carbon
gpu goes upto 100 percent when i go onto bfv
latent light
Leave it open in the background and play for 30 seconds to a minute and go back then tell me the utilization percentage of GPU
It should stay above 90%
If not then GPU is being bottlenecked
wanton carbon
so lemme hop into a game and try and play for 30 seconds and then see what percent its on
it stays on about 15-30 percent
im gonna upload the recording i just done of it and send it you
latent light
@wanton carbon GPU having that low of utilization means there's a problem somewhere
wanton carbon
oh no
latent light
Could be driver
wanton carbon
what do i do now then
latent light
Try this
Download Hwinfo64
Apparently task manager isn't a good way of checking GPU utilization
wanton carbon
https://youtu.be/amVeumB9Xd0 thats what it looks like when i try and play
latent light
Have you ever tried repairing game files?
wanton carbon
no
latent light
How to repair your game via Origin
Go to your library> click on the game> settings> repair.
Doesn't take that long
wanton carbon
one is like 2-3 years old as i took it out my old computer
i have a prebuilt pc rn
latent light
Battlefield V is very picky with RAM
if you have 4 RAM slots, make sure one stick is in the 2nd slot and other in the 4th slot
just to make sure dual channel mode is activated
strong breach
im just gonna assume i put them on correctly
wanton carbon
my game has done the repair thingy
shall i try again
it has got better tbf , it stays on about 60-70 but still isnt fully playable
but its on discord too , like when try and switch it lags too
@latent light
latent light
lol
wanton carbon
so much better
latent light
for the price of a prebuilt with an i5-9400, 8GB ram, and 1660 Super you could of built a PC with a Ryzen 5 3600, 16GB ram and 1660 Super
wanton carbon
this pc was 800
and i wish i just mad one for 1k
because i couldve got a 2070 super
and the 16gb of ram
latent light
big price difference going from 1660S to 2070S
wanton carbon
ik
latent light
double the price
wanton carbon
ik
i dont know what im gonna do then
i cant even just ask for scan to take the pc back and get the money back for it
molten coral
Buy 16GB RAM and you should be good
latent light
with only 8GB ram, having anything else open but BFV is gonna cause performance loss and possibly instability
wanton carbon
yeah
latent light
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wBCN8M @wanton carbon
look at this one I put together for 750 quid
supple bane
im remoting into his pc. and userbenchmark is showing interesting results
every piece of his hardware is performing really badly
the gpu is 0 percentile
latent light
how tf
supple bane
im trying to work that out now
cpu is doing fine
but there is something wrong with the gpu
drivers are up to date
update, its not clocking down at idle
lofty light
What GPU?
supple bane
yeah, im gonna run it again and monitor clock speeds, one sec
lofty light
See if performance is where it needs to be running something like heaven
latent light
UserBenchmark test is a decent way to get a basic understanding of what's performing normally and what's not
supple bane
^
lofty light
I honestly hate userbenchmark and never use it, so I can't input on that 😛
latent light
Userbenchmark has been biased towards Intel
supple bane
its just giving me a rough idea of whats happening
which is all i need
and its certainly narrowed it down to the gpu id say
latent light
@wanton carbon @supple bane
there's the issue
only 14GB space free on the hard drive
wanton carbon
it’s just my luck
latent light
if the game's installed on the HDD, then there's not enough space for the game's assets
wanton carbon
everything has to go wrong or not work
latent light
free up some space on the seagate hard drive
I recommend leaving 50GB space open on a HDD
supple bane
that doesnt explain the underperforming gpu tho
latent light
his game was freezing tho
and doing weird things
my friend filled up his HDD and he couldn't even play csgo
freed up some space and he was playing all games normally
lofty light
Full drives kill systems
supple bane
i dont know what drive he has bfv on, and i dont want to dig around in his files
latent light
full drives is a big no no
wanton carbon
I don’t have anything bad lmao
supple bane
i just tried that lol. couldnt work out how haha
opaque saddle
not sure anything about his psu tbh
latent light
bad PSU can cause instability
wanton carbon
lemme get it
supple bane
wtf
opaque saddle
assuming not getting 0fps somehow
opaque saddle
i got 2 as well
opaque saddle
i really hoped his PSU is enough to power his gpu...
latent light
I'm sure it is
supple bane
it was a prebuilt
latent light
1660 Super isn't power hungry
supple bane
was a 600w iirc
opaque saddle
Corsair CV450
latent light
weird
supple bane
and considering he only has 8gb of ram...
latent light
did you see what was using up all the ram in task manager?
latent light
Problems of a Full Hard Drive:
A hard drive that's too full can slow down your computer, causing freezes and crashes. Memory-intensive operations (Battlefield V) can cause the computer to freeze or slow down significantly if there is not enough virtual memory space left to act as an overflow.
@wanton carbon
wanton carbon
I have over 100gb free where bfv is
supple bane
again, bfv isnt installed on the full hard drive
opaque saddle
did he get GPU driver installed?
supple bane
yeah i checked that
latent light
it's not like 8GB ram is gonna affect a GPU benchmark score on that website
supple bane
im gonna try a driver reinstall real quick
latent light
.>
supple bane
clocks and temperatures are fine, i already checked that
opaque saddle
make sure its the right card...
supple bane
it is
opaque saddle
use something else than userbenchmarks
supple bane
what would you recommended? @opaque saddle
opaque saddle
you wanna test the GPU?
supple bane
i need something that will compare it to other systems
like userbenchmark
"its all fine and dandy telling me he has 70 fps. but i dont know if thats good"
sort of thing
opaque saddle
UNIGINE Benchmarks?
wanton carbon
my gpu fans harm each just gone silent
opaque saddle
see if it has comparable systems first
wanton carbon
have *
wanton carbon
they never used to before
supple bane
UNIGINE Benchmarks?
do they allow you to compare to other systems?
the gpu is turboing nicely. i really dont get this
yeah im gonna have to try another benchmark just to make sure it isnt userbenchmark
wanton carbon
shall I see if other games run fine ?
supple bane
one sec
wanton carbon
ok
supple bane
72% ram usage on idle now.......
supple bane
yeh
latent light
is it windows using all that ram?
supple bane
valley benchmark is a very stuttery 30-50 fps
like i said, there isnt anything in particular using all the ram
team viewer is using 500mb which is fair
latent light
honestly this could be bloatware installed by the company that built the PC
wanton carbon
it’s from scan
supple bane
its not. i know the company well
i have had a system from there and there was no bloatware AT all
latent light
defective card could be likely
supple bane
the only sign it was from scan was a custom boot screen
yeah valley benchmark is really suffering
supple bane
im not sure if its team viewer thats stuttering, but i know a 1660 super shouldnt be getting 40 fps
latent light
my ram usage is under 30% with chrome and discord open lol
supple bane
holy smokes, the gpu is clocking to 2145mhz loll
latent light
um wtf
supple bane
oh wait no its not.
latent light
and you just installed a new driver too?
latent light
I'm thinking the GPU is defective
latent light
could also be a Windows problem
bad install or something
hold on
it says his 1660 has 4GB
in that unigine valley benchmark
supple bane
fucking tell me about it lol, the more i dig the stranger it gets
wanton carbon
I know a few months ago when he helped me with my cpu checking the temps and stuff the number was some crazy shit
supple bane
@wanton carbon i might just show you how to completely format all hard drives and reinstall windows
latent light
can you RMA?
supple bane
i assume so
ok just noticed something. he has something called discord PTB installed and its using 10% of cpu and up to 300mb of ram
i dont know what discord ptb is
wanton carbon
yeah , my normal discord wouldn’t work properly so I had to get discord beta wich is ptb I’m pretty sure , I couldn’t hear anything on normal discord
supple bane
yeah thats what im thinking
@wanton carbon do you have an external drive laying around?
supple bane
like a usb stick or external hard drive
wanton carbon
I have a usb stick that came with the pc
supple bane
oh yeah scan do that
wanton carbon
yeah
supple bane
plug that in for me
latent light
horrible stutter, GPU performing way worse than it should and RAM usage is very high when idle
wanton carbon
will I need to reinstall everything like games ?
latent light
yeah
supple bane
im gonna run valley benchmark on my old 1060 and see what i get with the same settings
brb @wanton carbon , dont close the team viewer
wanton carbon
ok
latent light
you can keep personal files like pictures/downloaded music and videos iirc
supple bane
yeah he NEEDS to do a full drive wipe and windows reinstall i think
keeping any important files and dumping the rest
supple bane
like 15 minutes lol
wanton carbon
ok
supple bane
thats last resort tho
wanton carbon
I’m gonna be afk for like 5 mins
latent light
downloading things depends on your internet speed
wanton carbon
I have a booster thing in my room
supple bane
its downloading it off the usb drive tho right?
wanton carbon
for internet
latent light
I assume you have pretty good internet
wanton carbon
Mhm
latent light
so downloading games won't be bad
wanton carbon
Ark will take the piss
latent light
I had 3 mbps internet just last year, GTAV took 3 days to download
wanton carbon
how many gb is ark ?
latent light
I got 50 mbps now
wanton carbon
shall I leave the call I’m in on discord ?
latent light
leave all games in download queue over night when you go to bed
wanton carbon
I have a bad thing about leaving my computer on overnight
latent light
it's not bad to do that
wanton carbon
ik , one of my friends never does , I would leave it on for like 2 days straight but no every night of the year
latent light
a computer will live for a long time as long as the components are of at least mediocre quality and the temperatures aren't high
wanton carbon
yeah , I leave my side panel off all the time lmao
supple bane
man i was really cocky when i asked for the teamviewer password lol, i was like OoH iLl HaVe ThIs SoLvEd In MiNuTeS
im completely stumped lol
beaten by a prebuilt, sigh
supple bane
not just yet
wanton carbon
ok
how many gb is ark ?
If I can I might get it on that ssd I have on the motherboard
supple bane
@latent light my old 1060 3gb is getting very similar performance to what his 1660 super was getting 
42 fps with the same settings and no stutter
latent light
did you do the same resolution and graphics?
supple bane
yep
latent light
damn lmao
supple bane
ultra preset 8x AA
latent light
you know, in rare occasions a PCIe slot can have a defect where it doesn't provide full bandwidth
latent light
there's probably only one anyway
opaque saddle
budget mb?
supple bane
i cant remember what mobo it is
latent light
likely a mATX with 1 slot
most OEMs and prebuilt manufacturers use micro-ATX
some mATX have 2 PCIe slots
supple bane
im installing the media creation tool onto that usb drive atm. is there anything else yall can think of that might cause the gpu to underperform like that?
wanton carbon
other games run
wanton carbon
fake gpu WTF
latent light
other games might run but they won't run with expected performance
opaque saddle
i meant the infamous wish dot com 1050ti lmao
latent light
1050Ti that's really a 550Ti lmao
opaque saddle
i called that infamous
wanton carbon
I have a spair 1050 ti lmao
latent light
I have a 1050 I use as a troubleshooting card since it doesn't use PCIe cable
decent for entry gaming too
supple bane
the 1050ti wouldnt be far off the performance you are getting atm lmao
opaque saddle
im saying that will be an example
wanton carbon
will this reinstalling everything work hopefully ?
supple bane
thats the thing
you have two options. get in contact with scan, or reinstall windows
opaque saddle
make sure you run gpuz
supple bane
actually not a bad idea, ill download that now
fallen harbor
ello
opaque saddle
let see if you can pick up any interesting points
supple bane
send a link for gpuz download?
latent light
guru3d is where I downloaded it
opaque saddle
we cant really send you the url
supple bane
aight
im being cautious hehe, its not my pc. i dont wanna download something dodgy
theres nothing too obviously wrong on here
opaque saddle
comparison
supple bane
seems normal to me
opaque saddle
this is evga
opaque saddle
1x8gb
supple bane
XMP might not be on tbh
opaque saddle
low fps related to ram issues
opaque saddle
ask him to clean his hdd
latent light
2x4GB should be able to run games without massive stuttering like the issues he's having
opaque saddle
then run another test
supple bane
its not the hdd lol. im certain
opaque saddle
unless it isnt dual ch
supple bane
it must be, the motherboard only has two DIMM slots
molten coral
This is what I have too when I start up my PC.
supple bane
i fucking hope so from a prebuilt
molten coral
I've 32GB and when I start up my PC it starts using 24/25% of it.
opaque saddle
this is mine
molten coral
RTX voice uses a lot :l
molten coral
lol how
opaque saddle
idk
supple bane
i have a long standing hatred for that app
supple bane
i forgot to tell you @opaque saddle yano that gpu issue i had which i reinstalled windows for
opaque saddle
i ignored it
supple bane
it was rtx voice
latent light
I have a feud against GeForce Experience, always uncheck it when installing Nvidia driver
opaque saddle
cool
molten coral
I really like RTX voice as it completely removes the A/C noise which is 1metre next to me.
latent light
wtf
opaque saddle
too poor
latent light
do you just sit inside and sweat
opaque saddle
yep
molten coral
the fuck
opaque saddle
winter temps can be like -5C all to way to 40C
supple bane
he is deffo going into page file with bfv btw
latent light
damn all houses here in Texas pretty much have A/C, even if it's window units
supple bane
his system is unusable. its super unresponsive
supple bane
i cant do that