technology

[violet plank]

the thing i dislike about gaming chairs is (faux) leather,get's too sweaty when it's warm

[prime jasper]

b550 vision d would look sexy in a nzxt case

[latent light]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

i hate these "gamer armor bulky" motherboard designs lately, that vision looks nice

[violet plank]

only 4 sata ports for a "creator" mb,dunno how to feel about that one...

cause of tb3

not enough lanes cause of the 550 chip

too bad there is not x570 version of this

[storm osprey]

so yea, 3080 founders are ugly, hopefully thermals and acoustics are good, then i wont care

i saw a video saying that the cooling and shroud all cost 150 to make, suggesting the founders card will be expensive... so i guess ill see where it falls

if msrp is 700 and FE is 800, i aint buying

[violet plank]

2080ti fe cooling is 100ä

$

that stuff is highly missleading

does it cost $ to build or does it add up to the price of the card?

no answer at all to this

[storm osprey]

true

at least if that ratio is held the same then 3080 FE might be 100 more

[violet plank]

guess it highly depends what amd will throw in with big navi

[storm osprey]

big navi supposed to come out after though

[violet plank]

if they can't compete,nvidia can charge whatever they want

early october for big navi is the latest rumor

[storm osprey]

hopefully the scare of big navi alone will make nvidia do something retroactively

october release or announce?

[violet plank]

i truly hope they kick some nvidia ass so prices come down in general for gpu's

not sure,sounds like release

[storm osprey]

guess we just have to wait

[violet plank]

was something to read on a chinese news paper

even if it's release,what numbers?20 cards?

same with nvidia i guess

intel does that all the time

10900k caugh

well zen 2 wasn't any better,took months for the 3900x to be widely available

oh and the rumor about 320w TDP for the 3080,really hope that's wrong

[storm osprey]

is that high?

(i bought an 850w g2 years ago because it was 100 bucks so i never worried about power)

[violet plank]

2080ti has a tdp of 250w

some high oc cards 275w

i don't mind the power consumption,more concerned about the heat generated

which has to get out of your case somehow

[supple bane]

Well power consumption is directly proportional to heat generation

[violet plank]

let me put it that way,320w in any case under full load or 320w with like without any power target?

same as intel does with pl1 pl2 and tau

if the card needs 320w 24/7,would be a no go for me

but i highly doubt that is true in the first place

[latent light]

Stock 1080ti vs stock 2080ti, 2080Ti consumes like 50 watts more

Even the 2080 consumes more watts than 1080ti

TDP means nothing tbh

[violet plank]

that's the rumor

for me it looks weird af

[latent light]

The founder edition cooler is supposedly $150 to manufacture lol

[supple bane]

nice try lol

[violet plank]

yeah lol

whatever,need to do some stuff now anyways

[supple bane]

hahah

[storm osprey]

does anyone think the weird offset fan design is going to help something?

[supple bane]

wdym by offset?

[storm osprey]

have you not seen the design?

fans are on the top and bottom of the card

[supple bane]

ah, right

i assume that its pulling air from one side and pushing it out the other

i cant explain why but to me it feels more efficient then just blowing air up at a heat sink

[digital hill]

That looks weird

[storm osprey]

i forget where i read this and if its even just a thought, but its suggested that its not a "push pull" configuration

[prime jasper]

does anybody know how to fix error 0xc000007b?

on bf1

[amber fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ACKCmlTtLA

[digital hill]

Hey guys living in europe if you order a ryzen 3xxx from specific dealers you can also get horizon zero dawn complete edition steam key with your purchase fromm today till june 30th

[storm osprey]

whaaaaat?1

why cant that deal be here!

[violet plank]

cause you get the cpu like 100 bucks cheaper anyways

[storm osprey]

thats not our fault

you guys have tax included which also includes health care and a bunch of other shit

(assuming some EU country)

[molten coral]

Doesn't include health care lol

[true cradle]

i have a question

will there be a 3060 and 3070

or only 3080 and 3090

[viral ibex]

There should be a 3050 up to 3080 of 3090

[storm osprey]

you pay for health care separately?

[digital hill]

America you pay for health care from insurance companies who will try everything to save a penny

[true cradle]

off topic

[storm osprey]

@true cradle there is a 99.99% chance 3070 and 3060 will come, just not at launch

[true cradle]

oh ok

[digital hill]

He asked and answered but how much will a 3050 cost though

[true cradle]

a 3050?

[storm osprey]

launch for new series of GPUs have recently been the xx80 series

with xx80 ti coming shortly after

[true cradle]

so the first thing to launch is the 3080

[storm osprey]

nothing official yet

[true cradle]

how expensive will that be? is there any sources

[storm osprey]

but likely 3080 and/or 3080ti at launch

3080 expected to be around 700

700-800

[true cradle]

thats a no go for me

[storm osprey]

well, for USA in USD

[digital hill]

So if the 3080/3080ti will be 700-800 dollar then will the 2080ti price drop to 400-600

[true cradle]

wait

so, if the 3080 is 700

and the 2080 is 700 now

[storm osprey]

So if the 3080/3080ti will be 700-800 dollar then will the 2080ti price drop to 400-600
@digital hill id be 100% surprised if 3080ti was under 1000 usd...

@true cradle 2080 SUPER is 700 now

[true cradle]

then we should expect the 3060, and 3070 to be same prices to their predecessors (2060, 2070)

right

[storm osprey]

that is the normal expectation, though occasionally add an extra 50 for the new card

[true cradle]

hm

ok i might just buy a 3060

which 30xx series card should be compared with a 2080/2080s

[storm osprey]

hopefully big navi kicks some price wars into gears

@true cradle normally it goes down a "step"

[true cradle]

so a 3070

[storm osprey]

so 970 was replaces by 1060

yea

[true cradle]

ok

cool

[storm osprey]

a 2080/s will be replaced by a 3070

(in terms of performance)

[true cradle]

i mean if the 3070 is sitting at 400/500 bucks i might do it

[storm osprey]

xx70 cards are usually the sweet spot imo

[true cradle]

and the 2070 will be replaced with a 3060

then what will the 2060 be replaced with....

a 3050?

[storm osprey]

likely yes

[molten coral]

@storm osprey Yeah, health care is paid separately.

[storm osprey]

ah

well then nvm

[molten coral]

Still a lot better then in the US though

Basic health care in NL is around 100 euro a month and with dental care it's around 130-150.

[storm osprey]

damnnnn

30-50 for dental care monthly?

[molten coral]

The good thing is if you have a low income you get around 80-90 euro from the gov

[storm osprey]

its like 10 bucks a month for dental care here

i think im actually paying like 8

[molten coral]

Dental is pretty expensive

Especially because it doesn't cover anything

Bronze package is up to 500 euro
Silver is up to 750 and the gold package is 1000-1500 every year.

Everything above that and you have to pay it yourself

[storm osprey]

what the fuuuck

[digital hill]

nacho hebben dental care?

Is that right or I mixed up have and some other word

[molten coral]

Doesn't really make sense to me what were you trying to say lol.

[digital hill]

Its Nacho you have dental care?

[molten coral]

Nacho, heb jij tandheelkundige zorg?

@digital hill

[digital hill]

Thank you I'm still in the basics and what I know is Dat vrouwen heb een menu

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iPggUimB4k

i actually like the look of this case

its got that "gamery" style to it, but its not too ott

[violet plank]

looks nice

too small for me tho

but why the cutout for the psu

or are there any white psu's?

[supple bane]

i guess its either to show off what psu you have or you are the 1% of the population who have an lcd on the side of their psu

[molten coral]

RBG psu's are a thing

[violet plank]

afaik only the asus thor or how it is called

which is overpriced af

but still,if have a white build and that cut out in the shroud,i wouldn't want to put a black(ish) psu in it 🤷‍♂️

[supple bane]

i mean, spray paint is always an option lol

[violet plank]

hmm lol

question is how does it look like afterwards

[supple bane]

looks like a normal power supply

but white

[violet plank]

total noob here when it comes to painting

my thought was like white over black,must be hell of a thick film of white paint so you don't see anything shine through ?

[supple bane]

it works the dead opposite way

covering a dark colour with a bright paint is real easy i think

idk, im also a paint noob

[violet plank]

we need a tech painter here

oh,corsair has actually a white psu

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/rmx-white-series-power-supply

[latent light]

PS5 with 1.65TB SSD could cost $650

825GB will be around $500

This is just speculation based on the costs of PCIe 4 SSDs

[digital hill]

Jesus

[violet plank]

isn't the event in 5 hours?

[digital hill]

What event?

[violet plank]

sony

ps5 reveal

[digital hill]

Oh yeah

They shouldn't make it around 650-500 since you know it's too expensive

but for launch I'll say 350-499 since they gotta sell them

[latent light]

Sony has to scale SSD storage by 825 lmao

So 825GB, 1.65TB, 2.47TB

Yikes

[violet plank]

i don't see how the can sell it below 499 with all that hardware,same goes for xbox

[digital hill]

Yeah that the big problem consumers might stay on ps4-xbox one for a couple of years

or scalpers will just make it 1k

[latent light]

Xbox SSD is a lot cheaper to make

[violet plank]

499 would be still a good price imo

try to build that with a pc

[digital hill]

My pc is around 500-700 I really don't know as I reused parts

[latent light]

There's probably going to be a 4TB Xbox at launch

[violet plank]

noice

[digital hill]

Jeez so much more storage then my pc

[violet plank]

but xbox has no games of interest for me,never had somehow

[digital hill]

Ah but when I watched austin evans I was kinda amazed they added multitasking that was on pc for years on xbox

[latent light]

The quick resume feature is nice

Change between games within ~4 seconds and continue right where you left off

[violet plank]

on what console is that?

[latent light]

Xbox

[violet plank]

some kind of hibernation ?

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/S82YvCtwfHY

It can keep up to 7 games on quickresume

[violet plank]

must be the reason for the big ssd lol

[digital hill]

I mean the xbox one x is more powerful then the ps5 but weaker then the pc

[latent light]

The CPU in the One X bottlenecks the GPU

[violet plank]

in the end the games will decide who will buy what

[latent light]

Even at 4K iirc

[violet plank]

or both lol

[digital hill]

so they say 4k but I bet it might be stuck at 1080p for a while

[violet plank]

or 1440p upscaled

[latent light]

Quick resume works by having the SSD work as extra RAM and it holds games in a suspended state where you can instantly enter them and continue where you left off

[digital hill]

I wonder how much like mb's or gb of ram

[latent light]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-series-x-will-keep-file-sizes-down-to-save-ss/1100-6476977/

"It allows games to consume as little space as possible on the SSD while eliminating all CPU overhead typically associated with run-time decompression. This includes BCPack, which is designed specifically for compressing texture data that often is one of the largest contributors to overall game size… to help compress the actual size of the assets."

[digital hill]

I bet the ps5 will have games over 120gb

[storm osprey]

like exclusives?

[latent light]

That file compression tech the Xbox has could be a big game changer

It could shrink games down to 1/3 the uncompressed file size

That would make a game like Modern Warfare only like 60GB lol

[storm osprey]

hmm i didnt know they had their own compression tech

[latent light]

It's a feature on the Series X

Crazy that there are games under 50GB that look better and have much more content than MW which currently is >160GB on PC

Wonder what's up with that

[storm osprey]

i imagine we would have to start to code to figure out all the details

and looks are subjective too, art style is a big factor to something looking good even if the tech isnt better than another game

[latent light]

Apparently most of modern warfare file size is uncompressed textures

[storm osprey]

i was gonna say that but i wasnt sure, titanfall had a big file because of uncompressed audio

[latent light]

PS5 exclusives are supposed to make full use of the 5.5 GB/s NVMe SSD it has

So practically no loading times

Loading screens begone

[digital hill]

at least now namco will stop their monopoly on loading screen games

[storm osprey]

well with recent news and influx of people i will hide in here

[digital hill]

I'm just hoping amd just make the gpu market more cheap then now

seriously it's so expensive to own a new gpu

[quaint topaz]

This is hands down the best GPU utility i've used tbh

Only wish the founders edition cards had RGB unlocked. Because the LED is in fact RGB, nvidia locked them to green only which sucks.

[digital hill]

I mean it's opinion for me it looks good green I don't care

[quaint topaz]

it kinda goes against everything else in my pc but i can live with it

[digital hill]

Ah

[quaint topaz]

it does have breathing and flashing effects but no color changing

I've seen people wire the RGB connector directly to the motherboard which worked

but its too much effort and i dont wanna void the warranty lol

[digital hill]

Yeah them warranty is important as I heard those gpu's get hot

or is that only the 400 series of gpu's

[quaint topaz]

it does get spicy especially with RTX on

in some games it doesn't even sweat

which makes it run poorly. so I have to up the resolution scale to get more performance out of it

[digital hill]

Ah

maybe try to put it at 2k or 4k

[quaint topaz]

yeah thats what im doing

[digital hill]

Oh

[quaint topaz]

i play on 1080p with 200% res scale

[digital hill]

Isn't there virtual super resolution to it so it can run at 2k or 4k monitor resolution

[quaint topaz]

yeah it's called DSR but it doesnt run properly on my dual monitor setup

games get minimized randomly

[digital hill]

Ah

[quaint topaz]

and everything looks blurry

[digital hill]

True

[mild siren]

Hmmm

Think of Just Cause 3 loading screens

And imagine them gone

Now thats alotta damage progress

[storm osprey]

loading just doesnt go away though

a lot of games hide them pretty well though

[digital hill]

True

[storm osprey]

GOW is a good example

anything that had a loading screen was usually hidden behind in game "custscenes" of sorts

[prime jasper]

Max Payne 3 as well...holy unskippable cutscenes batman

[latent light]

1080p at 200% resolution scale would be 2880x1620

300% would be 3840x2160

[somber ivy]

how can i fix mouse sensitivity?

he change the from self the sensiticity make me crazy in game

[storm osprey]

i think im dyslexic now

[latent light]

Digital one is symmetric

[digital hill]

Its egyptian

[violet plank]

looks better horizontal imo

i like it,but damn,it really looks like a freaking router

and i fear from the design it has small and loud fans for cooling

unless they got some good axial kind of cooling

[latent light]

Yeah it's too slim for an AMD GPU to be boosting to 2230 MHz

[violet plank]

xbox has done a better job in that matter for sure

[latent light]

Xbox Series X was designed with cooling as priority and not much attention to aesthetic

[violet plank]

thing i don't like about the xbox,you can't use it horizontal

[latent light]

You can

[violet plank]

but then you will lose cooling

some of it at least

[latent light]

You can put it on any side except the exhaust fan side and front panel

[violet plank]

i got an av rack that has everything hidden,wanna keep it that way,upstanding console is just too big for that

but that's just me

[digital hill]

It could be

[violet plank]

seems to need some kind of extra stand for horizontal ?

or whatever that plate thing is underneath

[latent light]

TFW the XSX is actually smaller than the PS5

[digital hill]

scummiest of scalpers

[modern prawn]

No. Gtfo

No way

200 bucks?

That shit better have holograms

[mint anvil]

Lol

[modern prawn]

Holograms and a credit card reader. 😂😂

Maybe even text to speech ability

[mint anvil]

Yess

[modern prawn]

Erm.. speech to text..

Lol

[gaunt ether]

Can anyone on PC help with the punkbuster issue? I've tried reinstalling punkbuster manually and repairing it and I still get kicked randomly.

[vestal prism]

Someone tell me

Should I save up for a pc

Or save up for the ps5

[strong breach]

i'd save for pc

might be a little biased coming from me thought

Games on pc go on sale more often
no monthly online payments
can use it other things than gaming

if you only want to play games thought maybe a console wouldn't be that bad of a choice

[vestal prism]

Hmm alright

[latent light]

PS5 is huge

[reef mica]

Is it really that big?

[vestal prism]

Big=Better

I bet that thing is smooth

Runs well I bet

[copper condor]

PS5

[latent light]

It's bigger than a ITX PC

[violet plank]

before i buy that thing i wanna see the inside (cooling) and hear it,not fond of getting another jet engine

or wait a year til the first revision

hope there will be a full black version since black controllers were already shown

[tacit steppe]

Not gonna lie but that thing looks like its gonna melt after one regular game session🤣

[latent light]

PS5 is about 3.5 inches taller than Xbox Series X and like an inch thinner

Maybe 1.5 inch thinner

Remember when PS3 was big

[violet plank]

ps3?you mean ps2?

or was the ps3 bigger than the ps2?never owned one

[latent light]

2006 PS3 was a unit

[obsidian oriole]

i have a ps-3 and 4

[modern prawn]

No PS3 was smaller than PS2, slightly more wider and taller than PS4

PS5 gonna look sexy in my gaming cabinet

Yes. I am a classy Gamer

[strong breach]

that's a nice stack of consoles

my combo ends on PS3 :(

[opaque saddle]

my mum dumped my ps1 and 2 away

i bought myself a ps4 a few years after

[digital hill]

I own a ps4 and donated 2 ps3's to goodwill

one had a broken dvd drive other was toast as it was water damaged

[violet plank]

thx @modern prawn

[signal forge]

Need windows support!

Anyone up?

[storm osprey]

uhh, i mean this chat isnt tech support but we can try to help

[slate spoke]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMXPk6 that’s the list of parts my friends

[molten coral]

Bane you can close your windows by pulling the lever towards yourself and then you have to make a side movement to lock it.

||Sorry we can't help you with your windows problem.||

[slate spoke]

Lmao

Nice

[storm osprey]

@slate spoke uhhhh.... what?

@slate spoke please dont buy those parts

[slate spoke]

Okay

[digital hill]

Hey sorry to ask but I want recommendations for exhaust 120mm fan

as my stupid ass disconnect a wire on the fan that may have screwed it up

[supple bane]

i cant live with different fans lol, so id just say get what you have on the rest of your systme

[digital hill]

I mean I really don't care as I'm not looking for looks

something reliable and does the job

[supple bane]

corsair make a good, cheap fan,

ill find a link

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-AF120-Air-Noise-Cooling/dp/B07KH5VZ43/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=corsair+120mm+fan&qid=1591994002&sr=8-7

[digital hill]

I'd take that in mind

[supple bane]

i got that for my dads pc, 100% recommend

[digital hill]

a little expensive

[supple bane]

its about avergae

the cheapest i have seen are 5 pounds

[digital hill]

I mean its different currency as the price in mine is 14.99 and is not in stock

[supple bane]

ah

[fallen harbor]

random question peeps

how much is a ps4pro in any average first world country?

like usa or whatever

[digital hill]

300-400 I don’t know

[prime jasper]

Pretty sure it's between that range

[digital hill]

Ah thanks

I got a good deal on an Arctic freezer 7 pro which costed me 15.99

New condition

[fallen harbor]

ty

[quaint topaz]

concentrating on the CD tray is a good way to compare the size of each unit

PS5 isn't too bad tbh

[storm osprey]

id 100% would rather it be bigger if it means better thermals and acoustics

[opaque saddle]

I hoped they aren’t using blower this time

[digital hill]

I can guess this time instead of a jet engine they'll use a boeing 747 engine

[opaque saddle]

The CPU won’t be that hot coz it’s only running at the base clock

Or below base clock

But GPU is what I was thinking will be warm

[storm osprey]

Does ps5 have a decree gpu?

[fallen harbor]

anybody knows if ps5 will be backwards compatible with cds? or only digital?

[opaque saddle]

i wouldn't know

was referring to the processor part of the die

[supple bane]

[violet plank]

stray is also on steam btw

[molten coral]

Cleaned my PC for the first time in ages took some time but all clean again

[astral merlin]

Yay

I'm getting to the half year mark since building my PC.... maybe it's time to clean it

[simple rover]

I currently have a gtx nvidia 2070 Super, how well can it run BF v and what’s the max resolution that it can run on at about 60 plus fps?

[supple bane]

1440p. ultra settings will net you about 100-110 fps

[opaque saddle]

you will be around 65-79fps with RTX ON ULTRA settings at 1440p

a bit lower in Rotterdam, around 60ish

[molten coral]

Pog finally got it

[supple bane]

pogers

[molten coral]

@winged tapir

[winged tapir]

POG

how is it?

Worth the 80€?

[molten coral]

it's nice quality that is for sure

Still kinda setting it up atm

[winged tapir]

[kind kiln]

looks real good ngl

[summer comet]

Nice Bacardi

[digital hill]

I added some rgb to my pc once again

and removed my useless exhaust

[sinful mantle]

you guys are gonna hate me for this but i turned my PCs display pane towards the wall because it kept attracting my cats...ive already had one cat piss in the side air port on my last PC

[digital hill]

Jeez

[primal roost]

ello
can someone help me troubleshooting why i can't connect to certain servers in bf4?
||Whenever i want to join some servers via the server browser it does the regular "joining server" popup on the upper right corner of the screen, but instead of actually getting into the server it keeps telling me that the connection to session has been lost. The popup on the upper right then is still visible and when i try to join via quick-play it gives me an "Connection error code 1"||

[simple rover]

What does it take to run 200%resolution on bf 5 smoothly

[quaint topaz]

@simple rover Any machine that is able to run BFV on 4K

200% is technically 4K rendering

150% is 1440p rendering

@primal roost contact https://www.help.ea.com/

[latent light]

1440p is 178% the pixels of 1080p

4K or 2160p is 300% the pixels

[simple rover]

Can a nvidia rtx 2070 Super support 178 %?

[quaint topaz]

Yoo my mic is arriving today

[safe oyster]

Yeti?

[quaint topaz]

HyperX Quadcast

[safe oyster]

Nice

[storm osprey]

@simple rover you realize thats a really loaded question...

assuming 1080p on what game, what settings, what kind of fps do you want?

[quaint topaz]

Honestly 100% is just fine.

The higher your render resolution is the sharper the image is. 100% is exactly made for your monitor's resolution

[pallid silo]

Will we be able to transfer our origin games to steam? As I have all the battlefields and ea access and dont wanna pay again and loose progress

[strong breach]

you can add a non-steam game to the steam library

[west willow]

I think the steam versions force you to launch origin anyway

[strong breach]

they do

it's just like Rainbow 6 for example which launches Uplay

so if you own the games on origin and want them on steam adding it as a Non-steam game is 100% the same thing

[west willow]

Almost yes, except for some minor community things

Ubisoft and EA games on steam are little more than shortcuts anyway

[strong breach]

yea

[quaint topaz]

👍 its worth the money

[solemn narwhal]

How much

[strong breach]

Just bought this one myself. Hasn't arrived yet

[quaint topaz]

@solemn narwhal 160 USD with VAT

[solemn narwhal]

Ok

[violet plank]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/350-watts-for-nvidias-new-top-of-the-line-geforce-rtx-3090-ampere-model-explained-chip-area-calculated-and-boards-compared/

dafuq,60W for the RAM ?

32gb ddr4 pulls about 12W

[digital hill]

Jesus christ

what kind of heat magnet is that

[latent light]

350w may be too high for a power target

I can already see it putting out more heat than a Vega 64 LC

[vague vortex]

anybody have any pointers on how to get the razer naga numbers working in BF5?

1-4 work but nothing after that

[digital hill]

Well I put my new cooler in a different position

Its aiming up where my case has a dust filter

[glacial fossil]

Does anyone know why I always get 100+ ping on BF1? I have no issues in any other game.

[wheat locust]

go to speedtest.net and try to see what your average ping is, usually it could be EA's fault for horrible servers

[glacial fossil]

I have 6 ping.

I was thinking maybe it is putting me on EU servers?

[wheat locust]

true

check what you have

[prime jasper]

Best free secure cloud storage website ?

[glacial fossil]

@wheat locust Sorry for the late reply. How would I do that?

[wheat locust]

Server browser > Region

And set it to the nearest country/continent near you

[glacial fossil]

Oh ok thanks

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-4000-renoir-apu-runs-crysis-without-cpu-cooling-solution/

[opaque saddle]

people did a test with 3rd gen ryzen desktop apu already, no cooling required

[fallen harbor]

im sad i spent a lot of money into a pc and one year later my favorite game of all time gets announced exclusively for the ps5

[opaque saddle]

dont worry too much about it

people can have both pc and ps5 at the same time

the majority of the people will usually get console a year after the release date

[fallen harbor]

the majority of people in first world countries where they don't make 200 dollars a month and consoles don't cost trice their original price maybe yeah

i can see that

i am saving money for a working holiday so I can make money in a rich country and that way I could also buy a ps5 for a price that is not 1500 usd and the equivalent of 10 thousand dollars if we consider my local income

[fallen harbor]

christ

guess i deserve my work and time having less value for being born in a developing country

[digital hill]

Thats gonna be me

[reef pasture]

Don’t worry, there are many more games for PC.

[opaque saddle]

I have been living in 3 different countries in the past. People lives differently

It will be an unfair comparison comparing cost of living in developing countries and developed countries

It takes even more time for people to buy the same item in different places

Just wanna say not many people will buy new things when it came out. Even in developed countries

[fallen harbor]

yeah, because in developing countries the price drops over time, and its not like you literally cant afford it at lunch either unless you are poor

the ps4 pro here is literally 1200usd

[opaque saddle]

I know lots of people who were born overseas who works hard in australia

For working holiday

[fallen harbor]

and the min wage is 190 usd per month

yeah i was thinking australia or new zealand

[opaque saddle]

I know how it feels but sometimes you just can’t compare it

Coz it just makes you even more upset

[fallen harbor]

and the min wage is 190 usd per month
and even though the life prices are lower here, you cant afford any sort of living unless you make at least 350 usd

which is way higher than the min wage

[opaque saddle]

This is why a lot of people holding working holiday visa wants to move to australia if they got a chance

I reckon people won’t buy it at full price tho

[fallen harbor]

wdym

theres no other way at least in my coutry

[opaque saddle]

I meant the PS4 pro full price

[fallen harbor]

gaming is a bourgeoise only thing

yeah i mean, second hand ps4 pros are no less than 900 usd

[opaque saddle]

Unless you’re referring you’re living in Argentina or Brazil

[fallen harbor]

ps4 slim brand new is 915

i am living in argentina

[opaque saddle]

Is amazon US available?

[fallen harbor]

no

we cant buy abroad

[opaque saddle]

Tax?

[fallen harbor]

no, amazon literally doesnt sell to argentina

and if you do buy by any oher means, the tax will be higher than what you can get it here for

[opaque saddle]

Coz I remember we didn’t have AMAZON back then and I paid for 35% tax, import and shipping

Ah I got it

[fallen harbor]

man this legit depresses me sometimes

[opaque saddle]

I think the cheapest brand new PS4 Slim cost 165 USD here

And 135USD for Xbox one s

Well man I got cha

[fallen harbor]

i endebted myself for an entire year in order to get an i5 8400 and an rx590 which is already god tier locally speaking. I dont know anybody with a better pc than mine in this country

[opaque saddle]

you shouldn’t compare with others from the 1st world coz it just makes you even more upset

To be honest your built can last for another 5-7 years counting from 2020

[fallen harbor]

yeah, its good enough for me, but demons souls is my favorite game of all time and a remake was announced which is an inimaginable thing to me and i would buy a ps5 just for that if it was close to 500usd

but given how the ps4 pro is 1200 i can only assume the ps5 will be around 1500

which is unaffordable

[opaque saddle]

Well as I said, not many people will get a new console in the year of release

[fallen harbor]

ofc

i know what you mean

[opaque saddle]

If you say 700USD for a new console, it’s too expensive for me from my perspective

Even I do live in first world

[fallen harbor]

700 for a new console here is something that probably no more than 2% of the country would dare to get

if it is for you believe me it is higher for me

consoles here dont cost trice their price because we can get it

its because theres no gaming industry here and they are aimed for the rich and only them

pcs are also overpriced, just not as much as consoles, so its best going for pc here

[toxic wigeon]

Im looking forward to a new monitor for the new xbox x and I'm really pondering on what to get

[opaque saddle]

I saw the game prices from steamdb, it’s always be really cheap in your country. but if I do live in your country it’s still very expensive

[fallen harbor]

oh yeah, steam prices are a bliss, not gonna lie, also another reason to get a pc over a console here

but playstation store holds original prices, and even higher if you use an argentinean account

60usd games are 72usd

[opaque saddle]

@toxic wigeon I got a 1440p 144hz monitor for 399 bucks from Logan city

[toxic wigeon]

Christ

Im looking for a 2k monitor at least but I'm not sure if its worth it

[opaque saddle]

Coz pc can get quite cheap if it’s 2nd hand @fallen harbor

[toxic wigeon]

I want something that'll last a long time

[opaque saddle]

Well it’s IPs

IPS

[toxic wigeon]

Ips?

[opaque saddle]

if you aim for 2k 144hz for good image quality, go for IPS display

Usually cost 550 bucks here

[toxic wigeon]

Ips what does that mean

[storm osprey]

panel technology

[opaque saddle]

IPS display panel

[toxic wigeon]

Uhhh

[storm osprey]

better color but usually lags behind TN panels

[toxic wigeon]

Right!

[opaque saddle]

But he’s gaming on Xbox so It doesn’t really matter

[storm osprey]

TN fastest looks worst, VA middle child, IPS slowest looks best

[toxic wigeon]

Is it worth upgrading my monitor or is it not

[opaque saddle]

What do you have

[toxic wigeon]

An LG monitor...

[storm osprey]

define worth, like better for gaming or looks better?

[toxic wigeon]

Hang on

[opaque saddle]

And are you getting a new upcoming console

[toxic wigeon]

Yes

[opaque saddle]

I reckon he would rather getting IPS than tn

[toxic wigeon]

Its an lg flatron e2351vr bn

[storm osprey]

IPS looks best, but not the best for gaming (even if differences are marginal there is a difference)

[opaque saddle]

Coz it will looks way better on IPS especially for the next gen console

[toxic wigeon]

Alright

[opaque saddle]

It’s a TN display

Go to your local JBHIFI to check out IPS display tho

[storm osprey]

75hz 1080p tn panel

i assume x series is 120hz at 1080p

[opaque saddle]

Yeah or possibly 60hz at 2 or 4K depends on the games

4K 30

[storm osprey]

hmm i found a video suggesting xbox one x does 2k/120hz

[opaque saddle]

Maybe

[toxic wigeon]

My friend brought this up

[opaque saddle]

Tbh I don’t really know yet

[toxic wigeon]

And it looks really good

Hmm

[opaque saddle]

No

[storm osprey]

@toxic wigeon gsync might be a waste

[opaque saddle]

Do not get this one

[toxic wigeon]

Alright

[opaque saddle]

It’s meant for PC gaming

With Nvidia cards

[toxic wigeon]

What I plan on doing it buying a new monitor after I get the new xbox, see what that does.

Ah alright

[storm osprey]

pretty sure consoles are using freesync and not gsync so youll spend more for nothing

[opaque saddle]

But i will go for 2k 144hz IPS

[storm osprey]

(gsync costs more than freesync)

[toxic wigeon]

Right I should be on the lookout for them

[opaque saddle]

I got a Viewsonic VX2758 2KP MHD

for 399AUD

So it has 2k 144hz IPS panel

It usually cost 500 Aussies for similar product lineups

If you found <$520 with similar specs I guess it will be a good deal

[toxic wigeon]

What brand should I look out for

Are there bad brands

Are there things I should not grab, things I won't make use of

[opaque saddle]

274 USD for you

[storm osprey]

even generally good brands have stinker models

just do research per model

[toxic wigeon]

Theres asus , Kogan, etc

[opaque saddle]

I guess you can find me via DM but not now

If you want recommendations coz I live in Queensland don’t you remember that

[toxic wigeon]

All i remember is that you're an aussie

Haha

[opaque saddle]

Nah do not go for Kogan

[storm osprey]

just stay away from tn if you care about color reproduction, dont get gsync since consoles use freesync, and HDR is optional

[toxic wigeon]

Tn?

[opaque saddle]

But I should say, go to your local JB and see those iMacs first

They are IPS display

[toxic wigeon]

Uhh

Right

[storm osprey]

tn, va, and ips are the popular panel technologies right now

[opaque saddle]

If you like the colour it means you like IPS display

How to find a TN display from JB?

[toxic wigeon]

So tn is just stronger colours?

[opaque saddle]

Go to the monitor sections, go to the 150 bucks sections

[storm osprey]

TN is washed out colors

[opaque saddle]

If you can’t see the “right colour” on the side then it means they are TN

[storm osprey]

but its the "fastest" panel type

[opaque saddle]

VA panels are the low end TVs (used to be high end)

So

I guess if you want to see the differences, as I said, go to JB and found those 3 products

But remember, DO NOT BUY any monitors from JB

[storm osprey]

ehh, there are some panels that just look like shit because they arent calibrated

[toxic wigeon]

Use jb for sampling but don't buy

[storm osprey]

my dell tn panel for example, looked HORRIBLE uncalibrated

[opaque saddle]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

once i calibrated it, it looks fine

obviously its not an IPS panel, but idc for gaming when im just trying to crack headshots

[opaque saddle]

But I got no choice tho, he has to see it by himself

This is the best way for him to pick the right panel

Then he can make decisions

[toxic wigeon]

Ok for a general idea

What panel does the lg flatron e2351vr bn, the one I am using have?

[opaque saddle]

TN

Do you have an iPhone or Samsung

[toxic wigeon]

Yes, I have the Samsung s6 lite

[opaque saddle]

Hmmm nvm

[toxic wigeon]

I've used tn for so long im just used to it

[storm osprey]

tn usually cheapest too

[opaque saddle]

iMac =IPS Display (good colour, a bit slow, expensive)
Your current display = TN display (bad colour, fast but cheap)

[toxic wigeon]

Hmm

[opaque saddle]

VA: Cheap or, maybe mid end TV (middle ground)

[storm osprey]

last i saw most people suggest VA for gaming since they are in the middle of IPS and TN

[opaque saddle]

But I went for IPS since 2015 and cannot go back to TN

[toxic wigeon]

Ips high end but pricey, va being middle and tn the cheaper and efficient end

[storm osprey]

personally i would prefer VA

i would want better colors than what TN offers, but IPS is known for being slower and expensive

if gaming if your first and foremost priority then i would probably still even suggest TN

[toxic wigeon]

While I should make up my mind myself, can I get your guys opinion on something?

[opaque saddle]

I will go for IPS coz it looks really nice

[toxic wigeon]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25plus-inch/79665-VG27AQ?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5_O0mauE6gIVCSUrCh0MUgw0EAQYAiABEgKcBfD_BwE

Is this ok

[opaque saddle]

In the meantime, go to JB

If it’s open in the morning

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah when I go to the city which I gotta do I will

[storm osprey]

that link dont work for me

[opaque saddle]

Wait

Do you think you paid too much for it?

Wait till next week mate

[toxic wigeon]

Would I think so? I'm not paying for anything soon but

My mindset is

If something can last me a long time

[opaque saddle]

EOFY sales

[toxic wigeon]

I can shell out the extra monie

[opaque saddle]

Good

[toxic wigeon]

My current lg monitor has been with me for 5 years

And its done me very, very well

[opaque saddle]

Well my last asus last for 5 years

Then pick a few models, compare it, look at the reviews

[toxic wigeon]

I was kinda forced to used this monitor cause I kicked my TV when I was asleep

Yeah!

Would you say this is "ok"

[opaque saddle]

You keen for vesa mount?

[toxic wigeon]

The what?

[opaque saddle]

The wall mount

[toxic wigeon]

I dont need a wall mount

[opaque saddle]

Ah okay

[toxic wigeon]

I play my games right by my bed with my bed being my chair

[opaque saddle]

I hoped you don’t go to bed with your monitor

[toxic wigeon]

I dont sleep with it

I swear

[opaque saddle]

I used to bring my expensive goods with me before going to bed

Like new stuff

When I was a child

[toxic wigeon]

Ah

I give them stable ground

For my crap

[opaque saddle]

Anyway take your time picking the right monitor

No rush at all

[toxic wigeon]

Can you give me a link to your monitor?

Yeah I will do a lot of comparing

Derek is now gone

[opaque saddle]

What sort of sites do you want

[toxic wigeon]

Oh

[opaque saddle]

MWAVE

[toxic wigeon]

Just any

[opaque saddle]

PCCG

[toxic wigeon]

I mean, I wouldn't have mind looking at your monitor

Ill search it up and compare

[opaque saddle]

https://msy.com.au/viewsonic-27-vx2758-2kp-mhd-2560x1440-ips-1ms-144hz-wqhd-hdmidp-freesync-gaming-monitor

Cannot load up the other pages

[toxic wigeon]

Fair enough

Ill be going to Harvey Normans tomorrow cause I gotta see if foodland has my noodles

So

Thanks for explaining and generally helping Derek and nyphon

[opaque saddle]

Wait up don’t you live in Adelaide?

No worries mate happy to help but I should go to bed you know

[toxic wigeon]

I mean

I DID

[opaque saddle]

@fallen harbor people usually get Disc coz it works out cheaper

[toxic wigeon]

But its very close where I live

[opaque saddle]

No worries then

[toxic wigeon]

Harvey Normans is good right?

[opaque saddle]

Cheap out the IMac tho

Yeah and no

[toxic wigeon]

Sure

[opaque saddle]

I went to the HM but they had limited PC sections

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah its got what you need but its not as dedicated

Yeah yeah I get you, nOW GO THE FUCK TO SLEEP.

[opaque saddle]

I know the store is massive but half of them is occupied by furnitures that you won’t buy in your life

[toxic wigeon]

Kek yeah

[opaque saddle]

Go to JB mate

Compact

[toxic wigeon]

Ill have to take the bus

[opaque saddle]

Small

But it has the show room

[toxic wigeon]

I will though when I gotta

[opaque saddle]

Cool

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I get you pls sleep

[opaque saddle]

Bye

Gn

[fallen harbor]

hmm in my experience physical is more expensive since it has the importation value @opaque saddle

i bought ps4 with bloodborne back then and checked the online store a day after and the game was like 20% cheaper there compared to what i paid for the disk. The benefit of buying physical is that you ccan pay in uuh idk how you say that in english

split payment

[glacial fossil]

Hey guys so when i go to BF1s server browser it shows no one playing?

[storm osprey]

i can only hope that you have all filters to show all

[glacial fossil]

what does that mean?

[storm osprey]

in server browser you can toggle filters, if you have all the filters togged to none you wont see servers

[glacial fossil]

Ohhhhh. Ok

Nah it wasnt showing

i restarted for the 3rd time

and its all here

thanks anyway

[opaque saddle]

@fallen harbor isn’t that the benefits of getting a physical copy is to resell it?

[storm osprey]

yes

muahahah

[opaque saddle]

Just woke up and i wanted to buy a drone

Turns out the law is restricted

[storm osprey]

break the law

[opaque saddle]

Not worth getting a drone coz a lot of places banned flying here in my country

[molten coral]

E-mail is 299 but in the store itself 399 smh

[storm osprey]

lol wack

prices for used ps4 pros are stupid high right now

[molten coral]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

im just gonna sell my ps4 pro, borrow a friends ps4 and bank the money

[opaque saddle]

For ps5?

[storm osprey]

nah probably upgrade my pc

i wont get a ps5 till at least a year later when theres a decent amount of exclusives

[winged tapir]

PC

[opaque saddle]

Good coz as I said not many people will be able to buy one of those right away

[storm osprey]

nah i dont like consoles first year of life cycle anyway

[opaque saddle]

I meant within a year

Yeah I know

[molten coral]

I wanna get a PS5 for the last of us 2

[storm osprey]

my 4790 and gtx 1080 are struggling at 1440p

[molten coral]

and ratchet and clank

[opaque saddle]

I’ve seen a lot of people saying they should sell their console right now blah blah blah

[storm osprey]

in USA the used market is close to msrp...

[opaque saddle]

The problem is tho, the launch price is always be expensive

Then it takes a few years to drop to a point where everyone* can get it

[molten coral]

first year is always expensive

especially first month

because of re-sellers

[storm osprey]

ps4 pro on ebay going for cheapest 350 bucks

my local market has the same thing

most are around 400 for a couple of shitty games too

[molten coral]

not bad

[opaque saddle]

Unless they are really keen for the new games, otherwise it’s worth using the console and bring it across the generations

[storm osprey]

350 for just a ps4 slim

gtfo

[opaque saddle]

I got that for 175 USD

Brand new

[storm osprey]

yea, but covid and low stock have made these things shoot up

and i think tlou launching soon has people freaking out

[opaque saddle]

Xbox one S was cheaper back then, only 135 bucks

[molten coral]

Lol there was at some point they were selling the xbox one s digital edition for 100

Stock was gone in 20m

[opaque saddle]

The price of switch is gonna be expensive in the next year also

[storm osprey]

yea switches sold out too

[opaque saddle]

Can’t really see the point getting the digital version tbh

[molten coral]

name leak 👀

[storm osprey]

oh nooo

[opaque saddle]

Coz they can’t buy cheap games

Oof

[molten coral]

[storm osprey]

no leeks

speaking of leaks, ive avoided tlou leaks

[opaque saddle]

Everyone knows my first name anyway

[molten coral]

same

[storm osprey]

i just know some random details that i can make assumptions of

[opaque saddle]

[molten coral]

I haven't seen anything about it

Except for the offical stuff

but no leaks

[storm osprey]

ive not watched anything official lately

i saw the first gameplay trailer and have went cold since

[opaque saddle]

Does it mean I have to change my username on discord

[storm osprey]

lol only if you want

[opaque saddle]

Damn

[molten coral]

my first name is easy to find

[storm osprey]

carbon

[molten coral]

[storm osprey]

[opaque saddle]

Hydrogen

[molten coral]

Thinking to cancel my cyberpunk collectors edition pre-order

[storm osprey]

why?

when does that launch?

[molten coral]

september

I don't even have space for it lol

I could resell it for a higher price though

mhhh

[storm osprey]

ohhh the massive stuff?

i cant bring myself to scalp people

i had 2 chances to get tlou ps4 and passed

[molten coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fit0vepDvg

its pretty big

[storm osprey]

its cool but idk, i dont see a point in massive game statues

[molten coral]

The only collectors edition I really like is from For Honor because of the steel helmets.

[storm osprey]

i usually get the steel case editions

[molten coral]

Don't really have any steel cases

[opaque saddle]

Is it worth getting google nest hub?

[fallen harbor]

@fallen harbor isn’t that the benefits of getting a physical copy is to resell it?
hmm yes but i personally don't like the idea of reselling games. I am the type of person that gets few games and plays them kind of forever tbh

[storm osprey]

im the type of person that plays it once and then never again

[molten coral]

Is it worth getting google nest hub?
I would say no but it all depends on what you are gonna do with it.

[storm osprey]

theres very few games ill play more than once

[molten coral]

im the type of person that plays it once and then never again
same

[storm osprey]

tlou and super mario world are the only games i play SP more than once

[opaque saddle]

@molten coral digital photo album and a monitor showing something

Been thinking about it but I have to set up the privacy preferences

Coz I know google records the audio and stored it on the server

Like saying, “F U Google”, to google and google will record the audio clip for analysis and marketing purposes

[digital hill]

Though google is one of those companies that treats you like numbers though

[uncut trellis]

UAF?

[wheat locust]

does anyone know why the battlelog add on isn't working?

[honest slate]

Hey, does anyone know of a fix for the z fighting when using 14x+ scopes in BF4?

[prime jasper]

How to download origin games through idm

[violet plank]

MSI lists the AMD XT cpu's now officially for their x570 boards

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-UNIFY#support-cpu

3600/3800/3900XT

rumor says also zen 3 delayed til Q1 2021 due to no competition from intel

and possibly direct move to 5+ node

[molten coral]

nice

only 9999,99

great deal

[violet plank]

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-to-postpone-zen-3-processors-to-2021-due-to-weak-competition.html

[digital hill]

Man I seriously want more competition

[forest token]

damn it

[edgy saffron]

????

what

[forest token]

I want zen 3

[edgy saffron]

why

[forest token]

because it is time for an upgrade

[digital hill]

I'm now hoping for intel to get their shit so zen 3 can cost as much as 150-300 dollars

[edgy saffron]

can someone play battlefield 1 with my

[storm osprey]

it make sense but it sucks since i want to build right now xD

[violet plank]

build with an amd xt and nvidia 3xxx?

you can always upgrade to zen 3 without the need of a new board

intel alderlake (10nm) is on the roadmap on the end of 2021..

[storm osprey]

well atm im thinking of going with a 10600k since im all about those frames

even if it is like 150 bucks more..

[violet plank]

bad choice imo

[storm osprey]

price to performance yea, but any other reason?

[violet plank]

you're going with a 5 year old architecture

old tech,no pice 4

[storm osprey]

5 year old architecture gets the most frames 🤷

[violet plank]

11th gen intel is still on 14nm

you'll need a new board to upgrade too

security holes like swiss cheese

[storm osprey]

thats honestly my only concern right now

[violet plank]

you play on 1440p,not much to gain trough the cpu

[storm osprey]

and price to peformance

i play on all low though

so basically 1080p high settings which most benchmarks go by and theres a difference

[violet plank]

1080p is also not very future proof imo

[storm osprey]

what you mean?

[violet plank]

everything will tend to 4k

so will all the hardware to come

[storm osprey]

i cant keep waiting

[violet plank]

you'^ll need to if you want a 3080

[storm osprey]

thats what im saying, im getting a 3080 so i gotta upgrade my shit xD

[violet plank]

welp,wait and see what's the best option at that date and time

should be soon enough

[storm osprey]

likely 3600xt or 10600k

[violet plank]

hopefully

[storm osprey]

hopefully 3600xt gets close to 10600k so i can go that

speaking of 3600xt

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-xt-3000-processors-3900xt-499-3800xt-399-3600xt-249

[violet plank]

scroll up

[storm osprey]

xt refresh isnt zen 3 right?

[violet plank]

nope

just zen2 with higher base and boost clocks

[storm osprey]

right

[violet plank]

better binning

[storm osprey]

only a boost clock increase, not even base

ehhh

250 msrp too

[violet plank]

you can use the same board for zen3,which you can't with intel

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt upgrade a cpu within a couple of years for a 5-10% performance increase

ive lasted 6ish years on a 4790

[supple bane]

The only reason its lacking is cuz its 4 core tbh

[violet plank]

still you can on one platform and can't with the other,even if it's in 5 years

[supple bane]

Its single core performance is still fine

[violet plank]

true

but the age of 4 cores has just past

[storm osprey]

i might just wait some more, 3600xt is disappointing, i want 10600k performance but not at that price and security flaws

having newer features would be nice but not a huge factor

like i said, i lasted 6ish years with 4790, im sure i can wait half a year to a year

[violet plank]

you might rethink that next year when bad console ports start to pop up

[storm osprey]

i dont tend to play the latest and greatest

[violet plank]

me neither

[storm osprey]

i still havent played gta v, rdr 2, witcher, etc

tomb raider

[violet plank]

mostly wait a year or longer for the most titles

[storm osprey]

basically all the staple benchmark titles i dont play other than bfv

[violet plank]

only a handful i wanna play on release

[storm osprey]

and i got years till the next bf

[violet plank]

lou2

[supple bane]

Nyphons favourite games are space invaders and pong

[violet plank]

heresy

and animal crossing

[storm osprey]

no stores are doing midnight launch for tlou2

[molten coral]

yeah feelsbadman

[storm osprey]

for the past, maybe 5 years, my pre order list is horizon zero dawn, god of war, animal crossing, fire emblem three houses, and the last of us part two

[violet plank]

you're still buying the special edition console ?

[storm osprey]

@violet plank no, i actually had multiple chances the past few weeks to get it on pre order for msrp, but ive come to the conclusion that i dont use my ps4 often so ill borrow my friends ps4 pro to play tlou and im hopefully selling my console today for 360

[violet plank]

360 ? wtf

the normal ps4?

[storm osprey]

ps4 pro

[violet plank]

but still 360wtf lol

[storm osprey]

its not a special edition if thats what youre asking

console prices are ridiculous in usa right now

[violet plank]

that's kinda more then it sells new?

[storm osprey]

(i am offering two controllers and horizon/bloodborne games as well)

msrp ps4 pro is 400

[violet plank]

must be a us thing

the price

[storm osprey]

yea

[violet plank]

let me check what it is here

[molten coral]

heck

[storm osprey]

if console are through a retailer new they are 450+, but normally they are sold out

[molten coral]

expensive as fuck

[violet plank]

388 $ for a new ps4 pro here

[molten coral]

400 new

second hand is like 250-300 here

with like 5 games

[storm osprey]

so yea, if i can borrow a friends console to play the last game i plan on playing, and i can sell my ps4 pro at MAYBE an 80 dollar loss after using it for 3-4 years, ill take it

[violet plank]

so the plan is saving that money for the big pc upgrade ?

[storm osprey]

thats my cpu/mb/ram money xD

[violet plank]

ah i c lol

[storm osprey]

im already sitting on 800ish for gpu

please dont let the 3080 be more than 750

i might bite at 800

[violet plank]

800 would be my guess

[storm osprey]

i will not go above that though

that just makes me uncomfortable dropping 800 on a single component

[violet plank]

will last for years

[storm osprey]

yea, and its basically ideal for 4k gaming so its not a waste its just a lot for one part

[opaque saddle]

4k gaming is nice but way too demanding

[storm osprey]

4k gaming is for the front room where ill be playing non competitive games

i mainly game on a 1440p/144hz monitor

[opaque saddle]

so do i

except i do play BFV at 1080p

not often tho

[violet plank]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/elite-cia-unit-that-developed-hacking-tools-failed-to-secure-its-own-systems-allowing-massive-leak-an-internal-report-found/2020/06/15/502e3456-ae9d-11ea-8f56-63f38c990077_story.html

uhm

[modern prawn]

expensive as fuck
@molten coral Controller alone for PS5 is estimated to be 200

[latent light]

Really?