I feel like its gonna overheat
#technology
digital hill
digital hill
I think for my pc I'll get rid of my rgb led strips
which I installed a few days ago
fiery nymph
now you have to show me your pc
and yeah i think less rgb is better
i sometimes turn on my ram because it looks cool
but too much legit hurts my eyes a bit
and it's distracting
digital hill
as you can see theres no rat nests inside the case
hidden away from the dark
but with light
I did a dusting a few days ago to get rid of a ton of dust on fans and shit
deep verge
can somebody help me, so I played BFV in my pc, the game run normaly before, but last night something urgent came up when I played the game so I hit alt+f4, but now I cant even run the game, anybody know why?
deep verge
I tried to repair the game, and moved it to other drive but still the game won't open
digital hill
What about deleting the config
deep verge
and where is that?
digital hill
Its in documents folder and inside settings folder
Don't delete profile delete config only
deep verge
there's no config there
digital hill
its called profsave
digital hill
Now try to open it after that
digital hill
Did you do repair on the game
fiery nymph
have you rebooted your pc?
deep verge
yes I have
tried to searching on google and one of them solving it by reinstalling the the whole OS, I ain't reinstalling my windows for 1 game lmao
tried to play it offline, still won't run
fiery nymph
that's such a weird problem. tbh i'd try reinstalling the game if nothing works
digital hill
What abouut deleting the whole game
fiery nymph
i hope you have fast internet
digital hill
then downloading it again
deep verge
looks like that's the only way, sigh with my slow internet this is so frustating
fiery nymph
no problemo
latent light
Ryzen 3000 refresh will have 4.8 GHz boost on the 3900XT, 4.7 on the 3800XT and 3600XT
3900XT will have 4.1 GHz base clock, 300 MHz higher than 3900X
3800XT will have 4.2 GHz base
supple bane
wait, xt? is that not a gpu?
supple bane
so they are using xt on cpu's now too?
violet plank
just a rumor so far
but chances are high
use google translate on my link
it's the source for all other sites reporting this
translation with google is a bit weird/funny tho 
digital hill
Right now all I see is intel is dying
there cpu's aren't doing too good compared to ryzen
violet plank
i want intel and amd pushing each other so we consumers can profit
switching from an intel monopoly to amd would be equal bad
digital hill
True and the intel monopoly sucked ass as we'll still be stuck with 4 core 8 threads
violet plank
absolutely
digital hill
and plus everything was overpriced now competition just makes it more cheaper to finally have 6 cores and 12 threads for 200 dollars
also chromium os does have a use for me that it's optimized and I was able to watch 1080p videos on a weak machine
that probably wouldn't handle 720p on linux
violet plank
no idea about chromebooks/chrome os,it's almost non existent outside the us
digital hill
True but it is taking over the entire us school system
violet plank
at least i don't know a single person outside the us using it
and if you search in online shops for it,maybe 1 or2 a listed at most
are they that popular cause of the price ?
in the us
digital hill
Nah they are popular because of the price and also how many schools are using it
violet plank
so google is giving them for free to the schools?
or special prices
i see that here with apple sometimes giving ipads for free to schools
digital hill
special prices I think and also its cheaper then an ipad
fiery nymph
and plus everything was overpriced now competition just makes it more cheaper to finally have 6 cores and 12 threads for 200 dollars
@digital hill 117 euros here for a new r5 1600
i think in america it goes as low as 80 bucks at microcenter
which is insane
latent light
Ryzen 5 2600X went on sale for $80 at microcenter not a while ago
fiery nymph
damn
latent light
They were also selling the 3700X at $270 and 3800X at $290
latent light
Way more 3800X in stock than 3700X
violet plank
imo the 3700x is still the better buy,even on same price cause of less power draw and same performance
guess that's why 3800x is always on stock in high numbers
i'm gonna pre order that 3900xt if the rumors come true
violet plank
cpu
supple bane
jesus amd
violet plank
supposed refresh
of the 3000
better binning or whatever
everything thats 5000+ is gpu
i think 
violet plank
yeah,probably a stupid naming for the cpu
rumor first was like 3750x instead for the 3700x
would be the better choice imo
supple bane
there isnt anything that i can justify upgrading to atm
so ill probably leave it a while now, and just get a new pc in a few years
violet plank
well i'm happy with my all core boost,but i could use some more cores,and higher clocks on single thread is always welcome
supple bane
wat cpu you got atm?
violet plank
3700x
supple bane
right
violet plank
the upgrade is not worth for gaming tho
supple bane
exactly
i barely do anything other than gaming, and the differences between my cpu and a 3900x at 1440p are minimal
violet plank
iirc 3700x and 3900x at 1440p there is like no difference at all
supple bane
i still have the 6 cores for the occasional rendering i do. and for 120 pounds i could 100% say i would be getting 4 cores 4 threads if that one intel lmao
supple bane
for a while i have noticed i have been getting less fps than my friend who also has a 2070, i just ran userbenchmark, and got this
ik userbenchmark isnt 100% accurate but still, i feel i should be getting better numbers than that
supple bane
userbenchmark? no you download it, run it, does its thing, then it opens in browser to give you your results
supple bane
its actually diagnosed some of my issues before, as much hate as people give it
its what made me realise once my crappy fps in bfv was because of ram.
it was underperforming like crazy. then i learned about the whole, slot 2 and 4 for dual channel
digital hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2liaO_ly3A4 This looks better then rgb
prime jasper
That sort of bullshit about the percentile never accounts for differences in cooling, overclocking, thermals etc
Youre competing with watercooled cards
digital hill
Watercooling kinda suck
supple bane
yes, but those watercooled cards will be the ones at the very top of the list, now i doubt that the majority of those 215k bench marks are from water cooled cards lol
and besides, i got my 1060 to 100th percentile on a crappy air cooler lmao
digital hill
as you gotta replace a bunch of tubes just get it clean
while air just dust it away and nothing taking apart
violet plank
wanted to build a custom loop for fun,material cost 1000$...
prime jasper
violet plank
i remembered why i stopped doing it lol
violet plank
dafuq,didn't bench my gpu,why?
violet plank
uhm yeah
supple bane
userbenchmark + msi afterburner = crash
violet plank
no crash,just excluded the gpu
violet plank
in the result page
supple bane
just close msi afterburner and it should work
or just disable the overlay
if you have a keybinding set to hide the overlay, use it as soon as the graphics bench starts
violet plank
takes forever to run cause of all my harddrives
supple bane
heh
violet plank
91st percentile for my cpu lol
violet plank
did read my ram wrong
supple bane
do try it again, i wanna see how close i get to your graphics score
violet plank
tells me to enable xmp lmao
it's running atm
maybe cause my ram is manually oc'ed
violet plank
my ram is running 3600 at 14-14-14-28 1t and the bench shows a real crap result lol
supple bane
you do have it running in dual channel right?
violet plank
sure
got 4 sticks anywas cause single rank -> dual rank
and needed 32gigs
lmao,showing crap result for my 12tb hdd drive,ofc,that's a nas drive lol
supple bane
oof
not sure what i bases the "desktop" score on
gaming would be graphics, workstation would be cpu. but desktop?
storage maybe?
violet plank
supple bane
youre an alien it seems like
supple bane
before i upgraded my gpu, i was a speed boat in gaming or something like that lmao
ill take nuclear submarine as an upgrade
violet plank
digital hill
I'll take a 20 Tsar Bomba as an upgrade
lofty light
using userbenchmark
fiery nymph
Alright i think i solved my problem with bf4 crashing
It was msi afterburner
Has anyone else here had such problems with it?
lofty light
As in you'd overclocked your system too much?
lofty light
Then why do you have afterburner? 
fiery nymph
Overlay and limiting fps
lofty light
Sounds like it was the overlay most likely then
Those generally wreak havoc on older games
fiery nymph
The weird thing is that it worked peefectly a lot of the time
But yeah imma have to test it more to see if its really fixed
I joined like 20 servers without afterburner and they all worked so i think im fine
digital hill
My msi b450 tomahawk looks worse then before
it has corrosion and the battery leaked
fiery nymph
Corrosion on a mobo?
digital hill
Yep want me to show you the photo
fiery nymph
Yeah sure
digital hill
The box it was in was for my motherboard I'm using now
b450-f
You can see how the battery leaked
fiery nymph
Why didnt you just change the battery?
digital hill
It was stored in the shed due to breaking
fiery nymph
Ahh
digital hill
I killed it doing stupid shit of adding electric tape to hold my nvme ssd
That ssd isn't dead but that mobo will not boot without cmos wipe
digital hill
r5 3600 2x4 2666mhz ram and rx 570 with 250gb 970 evo and 2x1tb of hdd
fiery nymph
Ayy another dude with a 570
Hell yeah
I wanna get a 3600 later cause its such a good deal
digital hill
true
fiery nymph
But for now im happy with my 1600x
digital hill
when a r5 1600af beats your r5 1600x as its a r5 2600
fiery nymph
1600x and 2600 are pretty much the same performance
Nvm it is a bit better but thats like 5%
lofty light
The AF is still cheap over here in Aus as the scalpers haven't bought them all up 
digital hill
Scalpers has bought all my af series
for r5 1600af
I could buy a fucking 2600 for the same price
Newegg
amazon
digital hill
I must resist
lofty light
No reason to get the 3800 over the 3700 tbh
But I've got the 3900X, get that instead 
digital hill
Oh you made it worse
digital hill
I own that
lofty light
Oh?
digital hill
If you planning on having extra ram I'll take it off for a price of free
lofty light
Mainly just to fill out my ram slots and make it more RGB
digital hill
Lol
left oxide
laughs in 64 gigs
digital hill
I need to remove my rgb strips
as I never use it anymore since the dark hides the wires
called psu rat nest
digital hill
this thing looks horrible
lofty light
Good god that is awful
odd goblet
Power Rangers mask
lofty light
Best thing is you can only see the top when it's in the case
digital hill
Or you know just take the ram stick case off and let it be green which looks better then that shit
lofty light
That'd surely be a black PCB
I have a bunch of that kingston hyperx ram for my server and my little gaming rig
Plain one colour shroud for matching the build
No lights
digital hill
Ah
supple bane
building a computer will always get you more for your money
its really not hard lol
its adult lego
just watch a youtube video
on what budget?
do you have a monitor/keyboard/mouse?
then yeah, you could scrape by
what country do you live in?
oh that makes that much easier
yeah, because if its south america or something, i cant recommend websites
so if i needed to recomend a prebuild computer, how could i lol?
i dont know the currency, the price or components or what company's are reliable
wait
if you wanted to buy a system prebuilt,
and if you wanted to build a system your self
but let it be known, the prebuilt is wank compared to building it your self
id guess the prebuilt is about 90-100% slower
so basically half
spend some time watching videos on youtube
just search "gaming pc build guide"
and if you get stuck, turn to the internet for help, either a forum such as toms hardware or here
you dont need to tbh
what i linked above, all those parts would build a decent gaming pc
hell yeah
those are the same specs as what i linked above, thats the fps you will get
anywhere between 80 and 100 on ultra
i would highly reccomend watching that
erm, no its recommended but not needed
ive built 3 or 4 computers now and have never worn one
if you really dont want to damage anything, then pick one up on amazon, they are cheap.
but you will probably be fine, just build it without wearing anything that creates static like nylon, and 100% dont build it in a room with carpet
preferably tiled floors with no socks
although again, i mess with my computer all the time in a carpeted room and have never had a problem
hey if you dont feel comfortable, just get the prebuilt
hahaha
there isnt a law about building a pc lol
you can build it at any age
that pc isnt slow,
will still run bfv
summer comet
Linus has great PC building tutorials. Theyโre all very in depth and step by step.
I also like to watch Jayztwocents
supple bane
its not slow lmao
west willow
- the next gen consoles are coming soon, getting an old one now would be a waste of money imo
supple bane
no, it will get about half
fiery nymph
Theres still a lot of room for improvement
Even thought a lot of games already look amazing
meager marsh
ghouls if youre thinking about making the jump do it
my rig cost 2.5k run ultra 75fps practically anything
still room to improove will last ten years and you can do your taxes ๐
aud btw\
aussie dollerydoos
west willow
that explains why it's 2.5k
prime jasper
I heard in oz you have to have a special loicense to game above 100fps
meager marsh
yeah fuckers kicked back me application the dogs
prime jasper
dont worry, it wont matter when a nice huntsman decides to make your computer its new home
meager marsh
i have a thermaltake core p3 case
have a look a spoider could easily make its home here
west willow
For around 1000usd you can get a PC that can do 1440p ultra easily now, although I'd recommend waiting till the new GPUs and Ryzen 4000 series drop
meager marsh
yeah new gpus soon i hear
west willow
Even if you don't want those new components prices on old ones will probably drop as well
meager marsh
new gpus will probably drop round next gen
west willow
Yeah, around the same time I think, although it might take a while till the mid-range and budget cards drop.
Probably early next year for them
meager marsh
is anyone on bfv now and can do me a quick favour??
west willow
3060 is probably for january though and the cheaper ones probably only in february or march
fallen harbor
uuh
i use teamviewer for work and i was voicechatting with my friends on discord while also being connected to the pc from work
it is possible that people are near my pc at the work place
do they hear my pc's audio even though I am the one visiting their computer?
itd be kinda bad if they heard my talk with my friends
prime jasper
no
prime jasper
although Im sure theres a setting for that lol
fallen harbor
i hear their pc but we never configured anything in order for them to hear mine
so idk
violet plank
ngl,really love the new iphone 12 design,might be the best looking phone in years (for me at least)
and finally a small (5.4") high end phone again
molten bramble
Doesn't look very different from a previous model with the exception of a screen upgrade.
fallen harbor
all phones look the friggin same wdym
violet plank
all phones r friggin too big for my taste
last good small phone was the sony compact imo,but those are long gone
molten bramble
all phones look the friggin same wdym
That's initially namely because HTC and Samsung copied the design elements of the iPhone (and got sued for it).
prime jasper
and the iphone borrowed its basic design from earlier phones like the bb storm
turns out theres only so many ways you can make a phone fit a human hand
supple bane
Apple makes a good looking and solid product. But you are 150% paying for the logo and not the specs
If you want a phone that makes you look cool then go for apple, but if you want to get a solid phone and not spend loads then apple just doesnt work
violet plank
uhm apple has the fastest cpu/gpu since years,qualcomm is way behind,and you get easily 5 years software/security patches support
no i'm not a an apple fanboi,got an android as daily driver atm
supple bane
its funny, thats the only spec i dont give a shit about lmao
unless you are playing games with your phone, whats the point?
violet plank
my top prio is size,why i'm gonna switch back to apple in fall
and a good wide angle camera,using that thing more than the normal one lol
supple bane
mine is things like battery life, screen and camera
and general features
my phone has a wide angle camera. but im not sure how wide
violet plank
they are all around the same plus minus 5 degree
for me the pic quality is more important
some wide lenses are just crap
supple bane
123 degrees
lofty light
You buy an iPhone for iOS and the ecosystem
After being a dyhard android fan for years and being forced back to an old iPhone 7 I can say ecosystem good, iOS crap
violet plank
iOS yes,ecosytem no,at least not for me
i'm so pissed about my android and the slow security patches
lofty light
Battery life is less than half my old OnePlus
violet plank
well the 6-8 and the new 2020 SE got a small battery with a crap stamina
supple bane
my phone lasts 40 hours usually
violet plank
but they are small as well
supple bane
which i cant complain about
violet plank
highly depends what i'm doing,last about 1-1 1/2 days for me
what phone do you got @supple bane ?
supple bane
is that the google one?
violet plank
ye
supple bane
doesnt work with my phone
supple bane
i do use a 3rd party one anyway, which works fine
but lacks some of the features the first party app has
lofty light
My OnePlus 5T was perfect except the camera broke and I need it for work
lofty light
So bought a super cheap refurbished iPhone from a guy we use for out of warranty iPhone repairs
violet plank
@supple bane
supple bane
thats the wrong phone for a start lol
violet plank
ah ffs lol
my bad
i would consider a oneplus for a new phone,but all the new models are phablet size 
love the os of oneplus
supple bane
i think you should just bite the bullet and get a bigger phone
i think you might like it
violet plank
pfff
lofty light
I'd recommend biting too
supple bane
my phone is the only device i use besides my pc pretty much, so for me its the perfect balance between content consumption and comfortability
lofty light
I used to use the Sony Xperia Z3-5 compact and only jumped to W larger phone when they stopped making them
supple bane
its a 6.7' iirc
violet plank
my current phone is too big,it annoys me all the time,wanna go back smaller asap
lofty light
It was surprisingly easy to go to the OnePlus 5t
supple bane
how big is your current phone, isuni?
lofty light
Damn
violet plank
6.39"
lofty light
The width is the biggest thing for me
violet plank
of the oneplus ?
lofty light
Technically this iPhone is the same screen size but it's slightly wider and it's awful to use
violet plank
ah
lofty light
Like millimetres too wide
lofty light
Than the OnePlus?
violet plank
nope i was wrong nvm
violet plank
i never see the back of my phones
supple bane
lofty light
Fair, my OnePlus had a matte white paint on it but always had a black plastic case
violet plank
i couldn't use a phone without backcover
lofty light
Same
violet plank
slippery glass backs suck
supple bane
ive only broke 1 phone in my life
lofty light
Did you ever try the Xperia Z5?
violet plank
my last sony was the z3 compact
supple bane
twas my first phone, had it in one of those toy guns that come with the app to shoot aliens,
the plastic case just snapped off and flew across the room lol
lofty light
Back case was the sliperriest glass ever, super fine matte
Like an apple trackpad but even slipperier
violet plank
omg lol
lofty light
Rip man
supple bane
it was years ago lol, im over it now
lofty light
Never cracked a phone screen, but my old pixel died after a 50 cm drop in a thick case
Was covered by warranty tho and that thing was a pos
supple bane
ive dropped plenty of phones in the bath
lofty light
Never buy a pixel kids
supple bane
never broke one tho
lofty light
Damn rip
violet plank
tasty lol
lofty light
Mine booted up once after being in rice for a while so I could back it up but then died forever
Plucky little thing was jailbroken and running PS1 games
supple bane
i used to have a samsung s3, that thing could take a beating
violet plank
isn't that rice stuff an urban legend ?
lofty light
Also the first thing I ever played Pokemon on
isn't that rice stuff an urban legend ?
The dust in the rice can help
supple bane
i was running across a gravel road, with the phone in my pocket with no case on, it fell out the pocket at the perfect time to match with my foot and i just booted it across the gravel lol
perfectly fine
violet plank
mine didn't survive the bowl,i cracked it open and some parts had some rust on it 
violet plank
thing is my cat drowned it in the moring ( i guess),so it was in there almost a whole day
was my second phone at that time
supple bane
how does a cat, put a phone, in a bowl?
violet plank
that was my mistake actually
was on the charger lying on the window board,beneath was the bowl,and the cat played with the wires of the charger
and so it fell right into it
good thing it didn't electrocute the cat
prime jasper
you clearly havent played MW lmao
summer comet
not the right channel for that #battlefield-legacy-titles pls
supple bane
@compact rampart hate to break it to you, but compared to "real life" shot guns in that game are super nerf.
supple bane
in real life a shotgun will blow a hole in you out to like 60 yards.
and past that it would do a lot of damage
prime jasper
a slug certainly, buckshot would be spread out but still minute of man
compact rampart
@supple bane yes but not the model 27
storm osprey
still dont comprehend people expectations that bf titles are supposed to be even remotely realistic...
digital hill
#battlefield-legacy-titles to talk about bf, we talk about nerdy pc shit here
storm osprey
hopefully 4 months till rtx 3080
storm osprey
like swap the launch model?
violet plank
there are too many rumors,dunno what will come true
one is that 1 card will release with/right before cp2077
doubt it will be anything less than a 3070 for that game?
storm osprey
xx80 cards are usually the launch card and then xx 80 ti after
violet plank
most rumors state 3080/ti releases first,and everything else,2060/70 2021
i wanna build a new custom loop,but don't wanna do that with the next gen gpu's on the doorstep...
storm osprey
hmm, im almost certain 2000 series was 2080 first then 2080ti later
i want to say thats common for every launch
violet plank
since about 3 generations iirc
storm osprey
yea 9xx series did the same
im hoping its the same personally, i can never see myself buying a gpu for more than 1k
violet plank
you don't know the 3080 pricing yet
really want to go for the ti tho,the material cost for the custom loop i'm planning is already 1k$
supple bane
@violet plank after like 2 weeks of debating, I finally put my past behind me, manned up and optimised my fan layout
And messing with those dreaded cables
violet plank
haha finally 
supple bane
i felt like puking the entire time lmao
violet plank
you will get used to it
supple bane
i dont even get worried by pc parts, in fact i had to bend my graphics cards rear io plate to get it in lol
but rgb cables
nope
those things are my biggest fear in life
violet plank
lul
basically there are only 2 things to keep in mind about rgb
3 pin = aRGB 5V and 4 pin = RGB 12V
a = addressable
and don't mix them ofc
storm osprey
you don't know the 3080 pricing yet
@violet plank most people would be surprised if its even a price increase
violet plank
lmao @supple bane 's nightmare
i wouldn't be @storm osprey but i sure do not hope so
supple bane
Well that basically happened lol
storm osprey
yea i currently have about 800 saved for a 3080
supple bane
Hence why I'm petrified of rgb
fallen harbor
asdf
guys
maybe this is a noob question idk
i checked performance in many games some days ago
and I see the GPU is normally at 100% in every single game
it doesnt matter how it runs the game
and if the frame rate is limited or not
and the amount of memory it uses
why is that?
fallen harbor
i dont think you understand what i exactly mean
supple bane
i do, why is my gpu always running at 100%
fallen harbor
one game at 60fps uses 100% of my gpu, and it also uses 100% at 200fps
the same game
it's logically impossible
fallen harbor
well i am asking how that works
because it doesnt make sense in a general aspect
if you catch my drift
do you by any chance have a link explaining that? or a video?
or want to explain it yourself lol
digital hill
Well its based on gpu power
and I have no idea how anything works but all I say is some game's push the gpu to its limit while others don't
fallen harbor
well, literally every game i try no matter on which settings, the gpu goes up to 100%, 100% of the time
supple bane
yeah it will on a rx 590
fallen harbor
the CPU on the other hand doesn't
supple bane
games are incredibly graphically demanding
fallen harbor
yeah it will on a rx 590
then how can I check the actual GPU usage?
i know that
i still dont think you understand what i mean, maybe i am expressing myself the wrong way
supple bane
so even only 60 fps will take incredible power
fallen harbor
my english vocabulary is kinda bad
60fps at 100% means that the gpu cannot run that same game in that same scene at any frame rate beyond 60 on the same settings
but it does
5fps and 200fps both are 100%
supple bane
and another thing, it may well be rendering the max amount of fps it can, and then just picking out the 60 best frames if you have it capped
fallen harbor
yeah thats why i specified about capping the frame rate
but even if the gpu isnt at its max clock speed or vram usage
it's always at 100%
so idgi
fallen harbor
and another thing, it may well be rendering the max amount of fps it can, and then just picking out the 60 best frames if you have it capped
Makes sense, but I don't think this is what happens since limiting the frame rate also lowers the vram usage along with the gpu's temperature and more
so I don't think it still renders as much as it can while capped
supple bane
i can tell you its not a problem, but i cant tell you why it happens lol
fallen harbor
im not refering to it as a problem, because i know it's not something situational with my gpu only
i know this since long ago
and that it's normal
but i never knew why
and i am curious
supple bane
its not your gpu only
fallen harbor
i know i know
storm osprey
idk if its been covered but shouldnt gpu ideally always be 100% used?
on top of that hitting 100fps vs 50fps and still using 100% doesnt really tell the whole story
whats resolution, settings, whats going on on screen, etc?
fallen harbor
for example
i dont know
kingdom come
just as a random example
1080p, max settings
capped at 30fps
100% of gpu is being used
capped at 60fps, also on max settings and 1080, 100% is being used too
and in one recording that i made, the framerate is unlocked, on max settings and 1080p, and it uses 100% even though the vram used is around 4gb
and the gpu has 8gb
i forgot to record the clock speed though
so idk about that
prime jasper
vram usage is not the same as clock usage
fallen harbor
i know
prime jasper
speaking of which Im playing kingdom come on my 1x, its more fun than I expected
fallen harbor
i wish i could know more about how vram and clock speed works on a gpu but idk tbh, found nothing that a fool could understand
1x?
prime jasper
xbox 1 x
fallen harbor
oh
tbh i think kingdom come is amazing, clearly one of the best games ever made imho
prime jasper
very unforgiving, but also realistic because of that
fallen harbor
i heard it was full of glitches when it came out though, but i discovered it a year after its release
so idk
guess i was lucky enough to try it after the fixes
why would it only use half of its vram though
these questions kill me
idk how to find the answers
i know vram isn't all
but why not use it
the temperature while running kingdom come at max settings was hitting 85c, could it possibly have to do with that?
limiting its usage in order to not reach dangerous temps?
prime jasper
1080p wont max out the vram
1440p would use more
Yes its hitting a temp limit
85c is pushing its limit
fallen harbor
ok but it wasnt because of the temp then?
1440p would use more
i get that, but what about the frame rate then? why would it only use more ram if the resolution is bigger but not increase the frame rate instead when the resolution is smaller?
1080p at what framerate wont max out the vram exactly?
if it doesnt relate then running at 4k should perform the same as long as I have enough vram
but i doubt it would
prime jasper
the lower the resolution, the more cpu dependent your performance becomes
the higher the resolution, the more gpu dependent
fallen harbor
yes but that doesnt explain it
storm osprey
4k performance wouldnt be the same, you are pushing way more pixels
fallen harbor
i know
thats why i dont think its as white and black as that
so i guess the most important spec of a gpu is its base clock
nvm it isnt
it seems rx590 and 1080ti both have around the same base clock
so idk
digital hill
If virtual super resolution exist then can't a 4k panel become an 8k panel
supple bane
a 1080ti dominates a 590, clock speed isnt everything
fallen harbor
asking the real questions
a 1080ti dominates a 590, clock speed isnt everything
nvm it isnt
digital hill
Its cores or something
supple bane
ah
fallen harbor
rx590 has 2304 cores, 8gb vram and a max clock speed of 1545mhz
1660ti has 1536 cores, 6gb vram and a max clock speed of 1770mhz
and the 1660ti is superior
and the biggest difference between them is the cores, in which the rx590 is vastly higher
so uh
that doesnt seem to be it
digital hill
Yeah and also drivers
fallen harbor
so comparing amd and nvidia is like comparing parallel logics?
supple bane
different memory amounts clocked at different speeds
supple bane
still different architectures
look the best way to find if a gpu is more powerful than other
go on youtube
and search 1660ti vs 1080ti
fallen harbor
here are all the specs
i just want to know which are determinant
i know the 1080ti is vastly superior
but i want to understand why by looking at its specs
supple bane
but the specs arent the end of the story
take the FX series of cpus for example
on paper they are great high end cpu's
8 cores 4+ghz
but compared to modern cpus, they are wank
fallen harbor
it has to do with the specs, more specific specs in that specific case then
if not, then what?
everything is specs
digital hill
Lets just say there better and call it a day
we're going into looking into diagnostic and shit to see how one gpu is better then other
fallen harbor
not possible to what
supple bane
to just look at the specs and see which is better
fallen harbor
even if you studied the subject deeply?
fallen harbor
what do the guys at nvidia do then in order to create stronger gpus?
they must start from changing details
and those details are the specs, idk
this just doesnt make sense to me
digital hill
what about gddr5 vs gddr6
the 1660 ti uses different ram
the ram speed could give it more performance
fallen harbor
i understand what you mean but i dont think that is very relevant considering the max amount of ram isn't being used in most scenarios
if both exhausted their ram then yes
supple bane
you can also change HOW a gpu renders frames, making things more efficient. modern gpu's are much more efficient at rendering
different API's too
prime jasper
Is anyone else able to use dx12?
It just crashes for me
Lastest drivers on everything
Latest directx
Latest windows
opaque saddle
Windows update
check out windows update that can be the issue. I wouldnโt use DX12 coz it performed badly on my desktop
prime jasper
I also noticed with post process quality on high or ultra the textures turn the textures green and red
Windows is up to date
opaque saddle
I preferred not to do windows updates coz it messed up my PC for serval times already
digital hill
what windows update is like
opaque saddle
Apart from RBG interior, I guess the best way of building a desktop pc is to hide it completely
digital hill
@storm osprey What gpu is that a gtx 1080
storm osprey
Yep
digital hill
Nice also nice color scheme too orange somehow fits with black perfectly
supple bane
@storm osprey are those rgb fans or Just painted orange ?
violet plank
to orange for rgb
violet plank
prime jasper
What is tick rate in games ?
supple bane
how fast data flows to and from the server
so if its 60hz, 60 times a second data will flow to the server and then back again
i think
someone might have to correct me on that
supple bane
its usually either 30 hz or 60hz
prime jasper
And server is hub ?
supple bane
the definition of a server is a computer that manages a network with centralised resources and services
prime jasper
Give me a example i am noob
supple bane
so in the terms of a games server, all computers that are playing on said server will be "connected" to it over the internet. lets say you start to run forwards, your computer will send that information in a packet to the server. where it can process it and hand it out to all the other devices "other players" so they see you move
prime jasper
๐
Understoood
I read it 3 times
But it is like a hub for distribution of packets
supple bane
thats why ping is important, as ping is the time it takes for the server to respond to your packet being sent
yes it is like a hub
i get usually about 32 ping, so that means it is taking 32 milliseconds for a server to respond after my computer sends it a packet
that is also why if you lag out, everyone will just aimlessly walk forwards and any gunshots will just be repeated, as you arent connected to the server to be updated on whats happening
prime jasper
I get 190ms ping which is bad then
supple bane
not great no
you will have to aim slightly infront of people if they are running, as you are receiving information late compared to everyone else
prime jasper
My information will be sent late?
supple bane
both
packets in general will just take slightly longer to be sent, recieved and responded to.
prime jasper
Let me give. You a example what i understand... if i have 190ms and you have 32ms then we both start shooting at the same time in real time but because of delay you will kill me right?
supple bane
i THINK so, im not an expert on the topic lol. take what i say with a grain of salt
even 190ms tho is blisteringly fast, the difference between 190ms and 32ms is next to nothing. hence why you can still play
prime jasper
1sec=1000ms i know buddy
I am Little genius๐
190 ms is very fast 2/10 of a sec
supple bane
i dont have control over each individual fan im afraid
storm osprey
@storm osprey are those rgb fans or Just painted orange ?
@supple bane no rgb, but they arent "painted" orange, thats just their color
cougar vortex fans
molten coral
Nyphon is a cougar too
storm osprey
grawrrr
storm osprey
i would be lying if i said i didny buy these fans mostly because they are orange
supple bane
you are locked with orange with those, thats my issue
with an rgb fan you still get the colour you want and you have the freedom to just change it at the press of a button
storm osprey
yea im locked to orange, but i dont do RGB anyway
storm osprey
i was going to do that too but thats a bit of a hassle and i take my pc to friends houses commonly
opaque saddle
Well to be fair I reckon apart from RGB this is what people can do
It looks nice tho
Like people have started putting a RPI3 with a monitor underneath a mirror
Showing weather info
molten bramble
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For all of us that nerd out on space shit.
storm osprey
@prime jasper http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ps5+launch
latent light
Id say november
digital hill
very true
storm osprey
lol i love it
digital hill
I also love it and msi motherboards will support the next gen ryzen
prime jasper
needs to be updated for the 1650
digital hill
Nah rx 500 series
digital hill
Nope
fiery nymph
I also love it and msi motherboards will support the next gen ryzen
@digital hill woo
i love this
i won't have to replace my mobo for a while
digital hill
Why would you replace your mobo now
fiery nymph
who said i'm gonna replace my mobo?
fiery nymph
something like this
i just did this in like 2 minutes, so i'm sure you could make it better and change stuff to match your needs but this is about what you can get for the money
@prime jasper
digital hill
Pretty good but I want to change some things on it
Change the sata ssd to nvme
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V3cHtp cost 20 dollars more
but instead of 2tb you get 2.5tb
with a 500gb nvme ssd
prime jasper
@fiery nymph thank you very much
fiery nymph
no prob, but don't just buy that, as i said i put it together in like 2 mins
just to give you an idea
prime jasper
The games im going to be playing are battlefield 4 and Rainbow and maybe other games like apex
Yea ill see what i can add bc i need some stuff for streaming to
I'm still saving up still so maybe like at end of July ill have like 2k so i might buy a better monitor to
fiery nymph
if you aren't planning to go ultrawide the lg 27gl83a is the fastest ips 1440p 144hz monitor
i'm planning to get that one for myself as well
digital hill
or if your cheap use a 144hz va panel monitgor
prime jasper
Right now i got a asus 24 inch 70hz but that was for the ps4
digital hill
I got an aoc 24 inch 1080p 144hz curved monitopr
prime jasper
I'm really competitive so im not really trying get a long ass monitor ๐
fiery nymph
yeah and on top of that ultrawides are super expensive as well
vast nimbus
^
I have an ultra wide and sometimes itโs more of an annoyance then what itโs worth
digital hill
I heard overwatch isn't even playable on an ultra wide due to the unfair advantage they have
quick kestrel
digital hill
Now I can play the division 2 without problems
fiery nymph
Wooo
barren rock
Guys, my PC can running Bf5 ?
Specs
CPU : Intel i3 6100
GPU : geforce gtx 750ti
RAM : 8GB
flint panther
yes but on everything low and up to max 50-60 fps i would say
supple bane
720p low
flint panther
yes but i think you will not enjoy playing ...
its hard with bad grafics but you can try
barren rock
Maybe I should upgrade my gpu
flint panther
everything... ^^
supple bane
to have an enjoyable experience you will need to change everything
flint panther
yup
barren rock
Even the ram ?
flint panther
just a slot more
supple bane
im guessing its ddr3 tbh, so yes
flint panther
so up to 12-16 gb
barren rock
Ehhhh, that would be hard, due to the fact I got a budget mono with just 2 ram slots, i got 2 sticks which they're 4gb each
flint panther
hm
how much would u pay for a new pc?
my gpu gets up to 140 fps (gtx 1660ti) and costs 220 euro
could try that
barren rock
Just upgrading the video card ?
supple bane
it would be pointless with that cpu
flint panther
amd ryzen 5 3100
supple bane
it would probably run at 30-40% usage with the cpu pinned at 100%
flint panther
about 140 euro i think
barren rock
Which is better ? Intel or AMD ?
flint panther
yeah maybe just get a new pc
both are good
amd is the way to go at low budget pcs
barren rock
I have to check my wallet and Amazon lol
flint panther
xD
barren rock
I already planned upgrading my pc, but for the black Friday, when many things are on sale
flint panther
then wait until black friday
barren rock
It's without doubt the best thing to do since I can't afford a new pc atm
flint panther
yep
but on a budget like maybe 500 or 600 euro youll have a great system and an enyoyable gaming experinece
barren rock
I will see
west willow
For now I would wait, new nvidia and amd GPUs coming along with the Ryzen 4000 series. Even if it's just for picking up current parts at a cheaper price.
barren rock
yup
storm osprey
For now I would wait, new nvidia and amd GPUs coming along with the Ryzen 4000 series. Even if it's just for picking up current parts at a cheaper price.
@west willow im so ready to upgrade, last thing i upgraded was a 1080
digital hill
@storm osprey I heard the 1080ti are so good that nvidia sales went down due to how good they are
storm osprey
i wouldnt get a 1080ti unless the sale was something like 400 bucks
doesnt a 2070 super have similar performance but those are 500 bucks?
digital hill
No idea
prime jasper
a 2080 is rougly equal to a 1080ti
molten coral
1080ti's are still like 600-700 euro lol
violet plank
and yes,nvidia did a hard cut on the 1080 series when the 2k released cause they were to close
they vanished from the market within a few weeks
my guess nvidia has forbidden somehow to sell them anymore or whatever
silk echo
Any good mice for people with big hands?
prime jasper
my patriot viper is a pretty chunky mouse
silk echo
uh lemmi see each one is what
Palm
The one i have rn is the Roccat tyon and its kinda dying
molten coral
502
violet plank
i use a razer deathadder elite for mixed use with big hands (bug not real big)
roccat is huge
the kone or what the name was
silk echo
Kone isnt very
violet plank
or which was it
silk echo
Tyon is huge, which is what i need
violet plank
aimo ?
storm osprey
@silk echo what are you using it for? what are "needs" like extra buttons or what?
silk echo
I need a button near my thumb, and thats about it
Just a big mouse with a thumb button
violet plank
the tyon is bigger than the kone aimo ?
silk echo
Yeah
silk echo
If i had the budget for it i would
storm osprey
@silk echo if gaming the highly recommended mouse is a razer viper mouse
violet plank
oh i c,expensive one
silk echo
they dont sell them in Israel anymore and its like 190$ tax plus shipping
storm osprey
they have a wired viper for 50-60
violet plank
holy crap
silk echo
And thats without the mouse cost lmao
silk echo
Ill look into that Nyphon, danke
storm osprey
you can organize by size to make things easier too
prime jasper
lol I love how not a single Patriot mouse is on that list
storm osprey
i didnt even know patriot made mice
violet plank
same
silk echo
wh
storm osprey
i only know of patriot ram and storage
raven marsh
silk echo
Ill look into that one, thanks lads
storm osprey
some wireless mice actually have better latency than some wired mouse
(mostly logitech wireless mouse vs a final mouse ultralight)
though there could obviously be cases of interference based on a number of variables but i dont think thats a common complaint
scarlet sand
In theory it is possible
violet plank
faster than light connection ?
digital hill
I plug it in wired
storm osprey
digital hill
thats my mouse in the middle
prime jasper
how does it feel to be 3ms slower than the scrubs that are teabagging you?
digital hill
Well nothing at all as I use it wired
scarlet sand
Light is fast
digital hill
Well yeah nothing can go faster then light speed
sand phoenix
shorter cable = faster response time
you should put your mousepad on your pc
so you can shorten the cable as much as possible
violet plank
cable = direct connection,wirless = electrical singal has to be transformed to wireless and back,physically impossible to be faster
marketing
well unless you're using a corded mouse with a 50m cable maybe
storm osprey
the screen i posted is an LTT test
violet plank
you can't change physics shrug"
storm osprey
im sure the cable is only a fraction of the variables when factoring latency
violet plank
just telling the basics
storm osprey
right, maybe logitech using a wire with everything else the same would make logitechs wired numbers better than wireless
violet plank
you know,you can always cheat with software
they wanna sell that stuff in the end,so marketing
storm osprey
the point being that no one is going to be able to tell the difference either way
violet plank
ofc not
digital hill
I hope in the future we use fiber optic cables for our mouse