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hard pollen
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okay i dont know what changed, but now the game runs amazing at 70 fps ultra... but a new problem has arrived,
every now and then the GPU drops to like 10% creating a 10second lag spiks :/

prime jasper
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@hard pollen Overheating gpu

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Check temps on it

hard pollen
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nope, thats what i thought at first

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temperature never goes above 65

supple bane
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that sounds like a cpu bottleneck still tbh

prime jasper
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Though if he gets 70fps ultra on bfv then maybe it could be something else

hard pollen
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also on bf1

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i can run ultra now, but it drops every couple of seconds

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thats what im hoping to fix

latent light
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TSMC 5nm production will go into larger scale next month
IEDM reported it's 84% more dense than 7nm, TSMC themselves estimate 87%

prime jasper
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What

storm osprey
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yes

latent light
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comparing Ryzen 3000 (7nm) to Ryzen 5000 (5nm), we could see up to 2x performance-per-watt

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imagine Ryzen 7 3700X performance at 35 watts

storm osprey
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nah give me 2 ryzen 3700x performance for 70wat

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(doubt thats how it works but im a simpleton)

latent light
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85% improvement to transistor density is gonna be an insane jump nonetheless

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especially for RDNA3 (3rd gen Navi)

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power efficiency is going to be so good that achieving playable 4K gaming on a 75W GPU is a possibility

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Hell since RDNA2 is a 50% efficiency jump, that would mean RX 5700XT performance at 130W TDP

prime jasper
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Hey guys! Who can help me with running the game in non-safe mode? This is in the advanced startup settings (who didn't know)) (I Also want to say that I used a translator, so my English may seem strange)) Thank you in Advance!

sinful mantle
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@prime jasper I may be able to help you....Могу я Вам чем-то помочь?

grim nexus
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Hi o/ Does anyone know if BF5 got the new DLSS 2.0 ?

latent light
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it wont @grim nexus

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at least for a while

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MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries and Control are the first two games to support DLSS 2.0

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Wolfenstein: Youngblood will support it soon

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only good game that supports it is Control

keen solar
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What is wolfenstein youngblood. 80's vaporwave dead malls Aesthetic?

sleek siren
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Synthwave

grim nexus
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Aaaah rip ok

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sad, because the current dlss on bf is shitty

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we win a lot of fps but the game is just blurry

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anyway, ty for the reply

molten coral
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I think if you could get around 250 more and build the PC yourself it would be way better

prime jasper
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yep would want to do that, can't

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limit is 750ish

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and my mom wont allow me to build one

west willow
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It can run BFV, but I doubt It's a good deal (like most pre-builts). A Ryzen 1500 is less than $100 and a GTX1060 just above $150 with 1660s at around $200. You also don't know if they cheaped out on the mobo, PSU, memory, ... But if you can't build it yourself you're not left with many options.

prime jasper
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sure it'll run it

molten coral
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Also the one you linked a lot of reviews are saying the PC has low quality components

west willow
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That's what I suspected, most pre-builts do that to keep up the profit margins.

prime jasper
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this would be better for hardly any more

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ooh that looks great

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ty

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lets hope i can do enough surveys

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surbeys?

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surveys

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bruh 73 dollar shipping

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do it, its stupid easy and you dont even have to use the card

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or go on dells website and see if you can score a better deal there

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oh okay, ill try to do the amazon rewards visa card thing

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@prime jasper i saved up for a pc doing surveys for amazon gift cards, cant use other wbesites

latent light
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@prime jasper @prime jasper that RX 580 4GB they put in those are hot and loud

prime jasper
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If you got something better at the price point post it lol

prime jasper
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Yeah so a ram bottleneck....gotta make a tradeoff somewhere

molten coral
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With 750 you can't really get that far

prime jasper
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Thats pretty decent

molten coral
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ye

prime jasper
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I just realized that I have to buy a monitor as well

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All for 750?

latent light
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mouse and keyboard too?

molten coral
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I think you are better off buying the one Grim posted. Pretty decent

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Also if you also have to get a monitor, mouse and keyboard with that you are better off getting a console at this point..

latent light
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when you're going below $700 for a gaming PC, you might as well build one because your prebuilt options become very thin

prime jasper
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He said his mom wouldnt let him build one lmao

latent light
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@prime jasper the main issue with the Dell Inspiron PC is that the graphics card is hot and loud because they put the cheapest model available in it

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it will run at 90C or higher

prime jasper
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Oh

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Any way to reduce the heat?

latent light
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no

prime jasper
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Aw

latent light
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unless you buy a AIO watercooler and install it on the card lmao

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also there are only used ones available

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probably ones people returned because of how loud it was

prime jasper
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Maybe

latent light
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would be better to have a 6 core with 12 threads

dire ivy
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So, I have a question. How do you enter into a giveaway, or do the mods or admin randomly select anyone on the server?

prime jasper
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Yeahhh I really want that one but I dont think my mom will let me go to 800

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Barely 750 tbh

latent light
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I just don't think that i5-9400F will run future Battlefield games well

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since it only has 6 threads

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but at the moment that one you linked is good

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wait wait wait

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it only has the regular 1650 and not the 1650 Super

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oof

elder bane
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No u

latent light
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@prime jasper nvm that one you linked isn't really worth the money

prime jasper
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Oof

elder bane
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6 cores is enought for 3 4 years

latent light
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not really

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multithreading makes a huge difference

elder bane
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Unless its an open world game

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Wait r you talking about 3600 or 9400?

prime jasper
latent light
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Battlefield V needs at least 6 cores or 8 threads to play stable but having 8 cores or 12 threads helps a lot more

prime jasper
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Tho it's only 500 gb ssd

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Not sure if that's enough

latent light
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1060 3GB is pretty bad

elder bane
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Just go for 3600

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9400F have no advantages

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No iGPU

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No QuickSync

latent light
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the option after that is much better

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Ryzen 5 2600 and 1650 Super

elder bane
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Potentially lower performance

latent light
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although only 8GB ram which kinda sucks if you're playing BFV

elder bane
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I could get a better PC than that for 700 dollars

latent light
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his parents won't let him build one

elder bane
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3600-1660 Super

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Then use the assambling service

prime jasper
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Oo

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Assembling service?

latent light
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costs $50 or more to have someone assemble it for you

elder bane
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nah

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I only take 30

prime jasper
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Oh

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Bruh

elder bane
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700 for that

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50 for assambly

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Eventually still cheaper

prime jasper
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Hm, could be potentially worth it? Some of the pcs are insanely overpriced

latent light
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I put together my PC and installed windows on it in less than an hour lmao

prime jasper
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Oh wow

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Also, I bookmarked the one you sent me above but hows this?

elder bane
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where u live at crabdul

prime jasper
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Florida

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USA

elder bane
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That one is as terrible as 1650 Super

prime jasper
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Oh

elder bane
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5500XT, really?

prime jasper
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I dont know much about cpus and gpus, sorry lol

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@latent light oh, I'm also planning on upgrading parts over the years, so hopefully I'll be able to keep up with games and stuff

latent light
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I would highly recommend a Ryzen CPU then

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much more upgradability compared to Intel

elder bane
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just get someone to build you

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You will get quality components, cases and warrenty service

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Pre built PC can use used components with no warrenty, especially on site like Wish or Amazon

prime jasper
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Oh

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Okay thanks

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Tbh idek why my mom isn't allowing me

latent light
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one issue with doing your own build is finding a windows bootable USB drive

prime jasper
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She says that she doesnt think it's hard

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Oh

elder bane
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Its easy to be honest

latent light
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and you gotta buy a windows key if you don't want a watermark on your screen

prime jasper
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Wait so

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I cant use the key on my current laptop?

latent light
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pirated keys don't always work

elder bane
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Appearantly if you want one

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DM me

prime jasper
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Lmao

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I'll be fine tbh, I dont think my mom will allow regardless

elder bane
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It works just like normal key and its in your motherboard

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Tbh cheap windows key are just keys that leaked from a MAK or digital distribution

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They used the key already and there is still some activation times left

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So instead of throwing it away to be expire, they sell it at low prices to regain some budget

prime jasper
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Oh

latent light
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Ryzen 5000 will be insane

latent light
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oof

storm osprey
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Gtx 3000 series coming for sure this year right?

latent light
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yes

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Nvidia is waiting for AMD to launch their new GPUs first tho

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Radeon naming one of their prototypes as "Nvidia killer" actually has them on the edge of their seat lol

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RDNA2 with 80 compute units would kill Nvidia in the high-end

storm osprey
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Hurry up amd

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I imagine that 3080 will cost around 2080 super prices but obviously beat it.

prime jasper
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hello

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can anyone help with rubber banding in bf1?

ashen flax
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get a better internet lel

latent light
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@storm osprey it's insane that the GPU in the PS5 runs up to 2.23 GHz, that's more than a highly overclocked and watercooled RX 5700XT...

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that's actually a higher clock speed than any dedicated graphics card in existence that isn't on liquid nitrogen cooling lmao

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I guess the claimed 50% efficiency improvement over first gen Navi (RDNA1) is gonna improve clock speed

dapper walrus
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Hey I got a question

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i got i7 7700k and a GTX1070, add that to a 60HZ 4k monitor - everything is great..

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except on Iwo Jima, where my fps drops from regular 80-90 to 24 when flying an airplane. Like it drops randomly and makes me crash my planes alot.

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like a 1 second freeze

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I play at 2k resolution

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on High settings

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ONLY on iwo jima it does that

supple bane
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those specs should be able to handle 1080p with an absolute breeze, i would try maybe repair game files, as if you are saying it only occurs of iwo jima when in a plane, it sounds more like a bug than a perforamcne issue

dapper walrus
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ill try that

faint portal
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and maybe disable dx12 cause that can cause stutters depending on how your system handles it

supple bane
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i doubt it would be dx 12, if it was that his entire game would stutter, not just one very specific place and time

prime heron
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is origin service down today?

prime jasper
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let me check

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Not for me, eu

prime heron
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is it down in Eu?

prime jasper
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no no, i mean its not down for eu

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im in eu

prime heron
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ok, lol it just was an update to origin launcher

prime jasper
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xd

prime heron
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XD

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i thought it died

prime jasper
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its becoming more like windows

prime heron
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very true

storm osprey
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@latent light hopefully that means a good response from AMD

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i got a gsync monitor so im only going nvidia

snow tinsel
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my game doesnt want to load in to matches just show tips and quest

molten coral
gloomy gyro
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I will be building a new PC soon, how do think a ryzen 2600X with a GTX 1660 Super would run battlefield on medium settings?

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On 1080P

prime jasper
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it'll work fine

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make sure to get 16GB dual channel RAM

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a 3600 would make more sense though

west willow
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Sure, will probably run fine on ultra, let alone medium

supple bane
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@gloomy gyro just get a 2600, the x isnt worth it

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especially with that gpu

west willow
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true, either a 2600 or 3600, 2600x makes no sense for the price

latent light
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Ryzen 5 1600 AF is even better value than all of those

west willow
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a 1600 AF is basically a 2600, but slightly cheaper, so yes

latent light
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1600AF is $30-40 cheaper than the 2600 lol

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it's only $85 on amazon

west willow
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Here it's only a 20eur difference, fucked up prices I guess (1600AF is 100-110eur)

gloomy gyro
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@supple bane I know, but the X only costs 5€ more in Lithuania

supple bane
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oh maybe it would be worth it then

latent light
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yeah the 2600X has a 300 MHz higher boost than the 2600 and a better stock cooler

gloomy gyro
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140€ compared to 130-135€

west willow
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In that case go for it

gloomy gyro
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Yeah the cooler makes it worth it IMO

west willow
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true

gloomy gyro
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And should I get the RTX 2060 for 275€ or the GTX 1660 Super for 250€?

latent light
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that's cheap for a 2060, which model is it

west willow
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2060 if it isn't a crap model

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Most of them cost at least 300eur as far as I know (310-350 mostly)

gloomy gyro
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Well, the price comparison site wasnt working

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It shows 275 but its actually 340

latent light
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oof

gloomy gyro
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Yeah there is this site that has all the online sellers and compares the prices

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And it wasnt working

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Its a Palit one

latent light
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here, the 1660 Super is $230 and 2060 is $300

west willow
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For 1080p 60fps the 1660 super will do fine

supple bane
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how much is a 5500xt over there

gloomy gyro
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200€

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For the 4GB one

latent light
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1660 Super is probably the best choice

storm osprey
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i cant even find 2060 for 300 anymore

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the ko has been sold out for a while

west willow
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Yeah, most of them sell for around 350 now

latent light
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while the 5600 XT can be found for as low as $260 lol

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and equal or just a tad faster than the 2060

west willow
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Normally I'd say the 5600XT isn't worth it, but if it's that close to the 1660 super

latent light
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this model is $290, very good cooler

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also looks nice

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also Xbox Game Pass for 3 months and Resident Evil 3 remake comes with it

storm osprey
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i would easily go for a 5600xt over 2060 if the 2060 is more than 20 bucks

west willow
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@latent light If you care about those games that that's like an extra $75 saved

west willow
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Here the difference is often less than 50 eur though (sometimes only 20), so it's way more tempting to skip the 5600xt

latent light
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oh shit even the $180 5500XT comes with those games

gloomy gyro
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5600XT in Lithuania starts at 350€

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RTX 2060 is similar

west willow
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True, around 300-320 in Belgium. Too close to a RTX2060 imo

latent light
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fps comparison

gusty falcon
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Hier, erste Hilfe

crude creek
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i have rtx 2060 original playing at 1440p and turning down some of the settings, my performance is good for the near $400 i spent, its a great deal at $300

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i have the gigabyte oc model

latent light
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AMD's GPU source code is now up for auction for $100 million

prime jasper
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lmao scam city

latent light
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It's worth maybe $1000 tops lmao
They'll change the source code and refine things to the extent that the present source code probably won't even work without being edited before the next gen consoles and graphics cards ship to retailers, and you can take that bet to the bank

storm osprey
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now that i decided to get a gpu, im impatient

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3080 better not take forever

latent light
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Q4 expected launch

storm osprey
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thats like Q2 away!

supple bane
storm osprey
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if its just barely better than a 2080 super and costs about the same ill be pissed

latent light
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it will be better than a 2080Ti

storm osprey
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a 3080 better than 2080ti?

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for 2080 s price?

latent light
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yes

storm osprey
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well fuck..

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msrp for 2080 super is 700

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?

latent light
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yes

prime jasper
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anyone use secretlab chairs? they have a sale for like 125$ off and its tempting me

supple bane
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ive sat on one once....

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its nice. but i certianly wouldnt pay that money for one

prime jasper
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375 aint worth it?

supple bane
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not for me no.

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its a chair... id rather buy a 150 buck office chair which would offer just as much comfort

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just an office chair would have less features

storm osprey
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staples hyken!

supple bane
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i personally love mesh chairs

prime jasper
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what features?

molten coral
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I know a few people with secretlab chairs

storm osprey
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living in arizona, i love mesh chairs

molten coral
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they love them

prime jasper
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oh yeah, that one looks comfy too nyph-kun

supple bane
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adjustable arm rests, more tilt. more hight adjust etc @prime jasper

prime jasper
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@storm osprey does that staples chair have a back that pivots independently of the seat?

storm osprey
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like twists?

prime jasper
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like if you lean back, does the whole seat tilt back or the just the backrest?

storm osprey
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butt seat would stay still and you can twist and back will go with you?

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ohh gotcha

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uhhh im pretty sure it doesnt but not certain

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im not home

molten coral
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Personally I use the MARKUS chair

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from IKEA

supple bane
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i bet its comfy. but i gotta admit, god is that thing ugly

storm osprey
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hyken has a mesh bottom too though

prime jasper
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yeah that hyken looks pretty comfy

supple bane
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can someone link me that hyken chair

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i dont think its sold here

storm osprey
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also, ive normally seen the hyken for about 120 bucks

supple bane
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yeah that looks awsome

prime jasper
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boo pandemic price increase

supple bane
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shame its not sold here

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big gai

storm osprey
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once my chair breaks im getting one, my fiance got one and she loves it

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when shes not home i occasionally steal her chair to game in

molten coral
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How long do you have your current chair?

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I usually get a new chair every 3/4 years

storm osprey
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ive had my current chair for 4-6 years, its not a stapled hyken though

crude creek
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your pc looks like a chair

storm osprey
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your pc looks like a box

molten coral
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your pc looks like a owo

storm osprey
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someone gift me a rtx 3080

wind laurel
storm osprey
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you never know, you might ask and it might work

mild bough
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wow wtf

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wait nvm

true cradle
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@storm osprey ask and you shall receive

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cant send pics sorry

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wait

supple bane
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Bloody finally face

elder bane
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Shitte caard

opaque saddle
elder bane
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Did that comes with a logitech mouse?

supple bane
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gpu didnt work

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gonna have to get an rma on it

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i noticed that the power connectors arent sinking in all the way, which might have something to do with it

elder bane
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Clap clap

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Did you connect the cable to your GPU instead of the board

prime jasper
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@supple baneyou also face problems in life?

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dont limp wrist the power connections now

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gotta make sure that stupid little tab snaps over the lip

supple bane
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yeah figured that one out, it just doesnt work

prime jasper
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Haha bought offline or online

supple bane
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online

prime jasper
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Mhm,i wish your problem will solve soon

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I guess its time for that 5700xt

supple bane
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dont even know if i want that now at this point

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this has really taken my heart out of tinkering with my pc

storm osprey
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i said 3080

storm osprey
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so if 2000 series launched in september, is that the expectation for 3000 series?

prime jasper
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I said stop being poor

acoustic coyote
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i have the 5700xt nitro

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its amazin

storm osprey
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@prime jasper i cant

gloomy gyro
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What are people's opinions on ultrawide monitors for gaming?

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Im thinking about a 144hz IPS 16:9 monitor or a 75Hz IPS 21:9 ultrawide

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Its hard picking all the parts, so I migh buy pre-built, its 50€ cheaper than buying everything and putting it together yourself

prime jasper
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with what card?

storm osprey
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@gloomy gyro most things are tailored for individuals and what they want/need imo

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my personal sweet spot is 27" 1440p 144hz with gsync

gloomy gyro
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The build Im going to get has a ryzen 5 3600 sith gtx 1660 Ti

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If I were to spend the same amount for not pre-built I would get the ryzen 5 2600x and the 1660 super

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Im looking for 1080P monitors

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On 1440p its hard to make use of the 144hz monitor

storm osprey
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so pre built is 3600 and 1660ti and if you built yourself you could get a 2600x and 1660 super?

shadow nimbus
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can someone help me fix bf4 kicked by pnkbuster or is it literally impossible to play in 2020 becuase no "fix" has fixed anything for me

storm osprey
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punkbuster is anti cheat right? idk if there is a fix other than asking to get unbanned

shadow nimbus
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im not banned though lol im just getting kicked by it

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both pnkbster a and b are running in services.msc

prime jasper
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yeah but what is it detecting that its kicking you for?

shadow nimbus
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i honestly would have no idea

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i have discord open steam bluetooth samsung megician for samsung hdds and ssds

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radeon software for gpu

prime jasper
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try turning off lighting sync apps, mouse/kb software and macros, exit spotify, exit overclocking utilities etc

shadow nimbus
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i dont have any of those open

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i hate razer software so its not installed

prime jasper
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try closing discord and samsung then, like totally exiting not just minimizing

gloomy gyro
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@storm osprey yes

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Its 820€ pre-built, if I use exactly same parts and do it myself its like 920€

storm osprey
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thats not really the best way to go around

gloomy gyro
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By the way, what is thedifference between VA and IPS panels?

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Im looking at 2 monitors and I cant choose between them

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Both are 1080P 144Hz, and one is VA, the other one is IPS

west willow
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Sort of a compromise between TN (fastest response times) and IPS (best viewing angles and colour accuracy). The problem is that it often ends up being mediocre at both. Some VA panels also have problems with ghosting.

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Most of the time I would go for IPS, unless you play competitive and really need to shave off those ms. Low response times IPS panels do exist, but they're more expensive.

storm osprey
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basically tn is the fastest, ips is slowest but best colors/angles, va is in the middle

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though the differences in response time really isnt that much to say tn is worth it for response it

west willow
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I think so too

storm osprey
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yes it IS faster, but youre talking split seconds faster

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unless youre a pro that literally needs every advantage you can get, theres no reason for it

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(imo same goes for 240hz)

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if i were to buy a panel right now and assuming prices are about the same for the same specs between tn and va, i would probably go va

gloomy gyro
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Ok

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Guess I will go with the IPS one, 144hz 1080P IPS for 170€ seems to be a good deal

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Its the AOC 27G2U5

storm osprey
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imo ips is really for people who care for color accuracy and dont play competitive

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but this is where you get what fits yourself

sullen minnow
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My Origin client is stuck in "Installin Latest Version of Origin"

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Anyone had same experience?

prime jasper
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Guys is there anyway to get full speed if your mobile internet speed is limited.My internet is limited to 2mb

frank raft
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If you mean getting 2 out of 2Mbs you cant the only way to speed up your internet is to talk to the internet distributor

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Also, I would recommend checking how many devices are connected to the internet simultaneously

prime jasper
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@frank raftNo its for specific pack ..only on my mobile data sim

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They are giving unlimited internet but speed is limited

elder bane
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so what cap you bandwidth

frank raft
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Well, of course mobile data speed is not going to be fast enough, if you are able to use an optic (cable) internet or Wi-Fi of course both of those need to be available in your region. If you are unable to do that you can try a different pack but you wont be able to overclock your internet over 2Mbs not even get the full 2Mbs speed as there is always atleast a small drop in the speed

elder bane
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Your sim card or your phone

prime jasper
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No that sim now giving 256kb max download on that unlimited pack but on other pack it give 4mb download

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So they restricted so that one can use more data

north trail
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Anyone in the UK on Virgin wifi?
cus im on it too and its been awful the past few days
ive been getting 100+ping on games and its hard to play them

ashen ether
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What's the best gaming laptop right now? $1000

prime jasper
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@ashen etherbuy pc ,

jade mirage
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@prime jasper I'm pretty sure if he wanted to he'd buy a desktop, he's looking for a laptop though so.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen ether
prime jasper
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Best pc is the Ryzen Nintendo wii

weak heath
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anyone know the optimal graphic settings for 1080 ti i7 7700 cpu for atleast 60 fps for 4k

supple bane
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a mix of medium and low probably

west willow
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Start on medium. If you drop below 60 mix it with low. Start with turning down post-processing and shadows/lighting first in that case (eat the most fps). If you get enough fps on medium (without drops), you can try turning some less intensive setting up to high.

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It's from a while ago, but it will show you which settings affect performance the most

wise glade
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I know this is not normal at all, but my CPU is running at 115°C

prime jasper
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oof

wise glade
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I have a i7 9700K (not oc)

prime jasper
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that doesnt sound right

wise glade
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yeah

prime jasper
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whats reading the temp?

wise glade
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Riva Tuner

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The one with MSI afterburner

storm osprey
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i assume a nice cooler

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not stock (even though it doesnt come with a stock cooler)

wise glade
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Please don’t kill me but it’s a pre built

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AIO

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Which probably is why my thermals on my CPU are so garbage

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cuz they definitely cheaped out on it

prime jasper
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115C should trip a shutdown

storm osprey
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youre dead

prime jasper
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so...you might want to contact them and get a warranty claim

wise glade
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yeah it just did

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shut down that is

storm osprey
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no thermal paste

wise glade
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probably that

prime jasper
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lmao

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easy to check

wise glade
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yeah

prime jasper
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hope you have some around

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just in case

wise glade
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I bought some a while ago for when I cleaned my PC

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Didn't check under the cooler tho

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Honestly I think I should just upgrade everything

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Cuz I've had this desktop for about a year and everyone says the PSUs only last about 14 months

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so i might just get a new cooler when I get the power supply

storm osprey
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what you mean "upgrade everything"

prime jasper
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yeah no just check the thermal paste first

wise glade
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The mobo, cooler, and power supply

prime jasper
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dont jump to upgrading random stuff

storm osprey
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why upgrade mobo?

wise glade
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Cuz I wanna oc my CPU to get the most out of it since it’s a 9700K

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And because I have a prebuilt the motherboard is shit for overclocking

storm osprey
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ah

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(this is why you dont buy prebuilt)

wise glade
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Yep 👍🏻

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Learned that the hard way

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Thanks for the advice tho anyways

prime jasper
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check the paste and get back to us

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otherwise its possible your AIO pump failed

wise glade
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yeah I'm worried about that too

storm osprey
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you can see if fans turn or listen for the water to flow

wise glade
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I remember when I tried oc a couple months ago my cooler made an awful squeaking noise so I just reverted it back to factory settings

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My fans are all on but can't hear the water flow

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should I put it under load?

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like launch a game or something?

prime jasper
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no dude check the paste first

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then see the temps

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stop messing with it until you do that

wise glade
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fair enough

hollow hornet
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How good a pc do you need to play Bf1?

prime jasper
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check the system requirements

hollow hornet
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I have 32gb ram, i7-4900

prime jasper
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thats fine

hollow hornet
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But only an I4400 integrated gpu

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But that's below minimum requirements for all the games I play and I play them anyway

wise glade
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you might have to play in a lower res to get 60 FPS but I could be wrong

hollow hornet
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Oh that's fine then idc about FPS anyway

storm osprey
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32gb of ram, i7 4900(?), and no gpu?

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uhhhhh

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ohh a laptop

prime jasper
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yeah that igpu aint gonna work at all

storm osprey
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good luck playing league of legends at 30 fps...

hollow hornet
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No I'm on a desktop

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Hmm

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Can you get refunds on Bf1 within a certain number of hours playing?

prime jasper
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or you can buy a gpu lmao

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since you want to game

hollow hornet
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I'll just play it and see since all my other games have a higher minimum required GPU than I have and they run fine

storm osprey
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isnt 4900 a mobile cpu?

hollow hornet
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Well it's in a desktop

wise glade
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Honestly just buy a GTX 1030 if you play games so much lol

hollow hornet
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It's not my pc

prime jasper
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I think he means 4790

hollow hornet
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It's an old work pc my dad's uni forgot about

storm osprey
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well now its yours

hollow hornet
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And they haven't asked for it for years

storm osprey
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and you should get a used 1060 or 570/580 and call it good

prime jasper
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you can stick a gtx1650 in it with no external power needed

hollow hornet
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I mean

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I looked at getting a gpu

prime jasper
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since business machines dont usually have gpu power

hollow hornet
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When the amd range was on sale

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When they released their new range of gpus

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But I was scared I'd just break it in the end and I didn't need it

supple bane
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you need it alright

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for gaming, a gpu is pretty much a necessity

sand phoenix
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Can't break your pc if your pc doesn't work to begin with rollsafe

pallid silo
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Apparently windows10 doesn't ship with the things needed for origin lol...

prime jasper
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of course it doesnt come with misc visual C redistributables installed

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those arent necessary for windows to run

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the installer in question should detect and install it

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that error means it failed to install or you have a damaged installation

pallid silo
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@prime jasper redownloaded it 10 times and didn't work haha

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Had to install it from Microsoft website :)

prime jasper
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Yup thats one way

pallid silo
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I've never had this problem with previous installs tho? :₩

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:)

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How comes it happend this time?

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Someone messed up with the exe?

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Exe

untold tiger
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G4900 is a Celeron CPU, not a mobile processor. It's just garbage.

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It has onboard graphics, but they're just good enough to display an image on the PC

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And maybe run Daggerfall at 60FPS

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GT 1030 might actually be bottlenecked by a G4900

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I'd go with like a GT 640 4GB or something.

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It's 4GB DDR4, but it's actually pretty good for older games.

main wren
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Hey everyone, got a question. Running on a ps4. Any idea what to do when you get stuck at connecting? Have ps+ and can play other games online but not bf4. Uninstalled, reinstalled signed out and in to ps+. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

latent light
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RTX 3090 should be 40% faster than the 2080Ti

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12GB GDDR6 at 18 Gbps

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sucks that they are going with 10nm and not 7nm

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actually it appears that only Datacenter will be on 7nm, not general consumer GPUs

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for this next generation

prime jasper
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When this gpu will be released?

prime jasper
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@latent light That looks fake

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it looks like nvidia and amd had a child

violet plank
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why would they call it 3090?sounds like a marketing disaster

latent light
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Usually the 90 was reserved for dual GPUs like the GTX 590 and 690

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I doubt Nvidia will ever launch another dual GPU for general consumers since there's no point in them and they don't sell that much

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So Nvidia using 90 instead of 80Ti is possible

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Maybe they want to be closer to AMD's GPU naming

violet plank
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you're right,forgot about those duals,but abandon the 80ti naming would be a huge mistake imo

latent light
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I wish they removed the 'Ti' naming entirely

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it was dumb when it came out 7 years ago

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with the 780 Ti

violet plank
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welp,ppl are used to the current naming scheme,constantly changing it is confusing af stares at intel

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or renaming/rebranding the same model stares at amd

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on the other hand the marketing guys need something to do,what else are they good for LUL

latent light
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the dumb thing about Ti is that it means Titanium, which has nothing to do with a graphics card

supple bane
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it doesnt mean anything iirc

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its just, what nvidia decided to call it

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ok nvm ignore that

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for some reason i had it caked in my brain that it didnt mean anything

violet plank
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maybe the thought behind it was like titanium = slightly smaller version of the titan?dunno

hollow hornet
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BF5 is more performance intensive than Apex right

summer comet
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yes, far more than Apex

latent light
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yeah a lot more CPU demanding

summer comet
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I basically started with the minimum specs (i5-6600K and GTX 1060 6GB) and the game was very choppy and unplayable imo but then I upgraded to the i7-9700K and kept my GTX 1060 6GB and I play on low and cap my fps at 144 - only dips down during times of massive explosions and when rendering far distances

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I'd love to get a 20XX series GPU but might end up waiting for the 30XX series to come out instead

frank raft
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Im about to buy BFV and have an i5 7700K hopefully that will be enough

summer comet
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your i5 is a gen higher than my i5 was.. hopefully it'll be fine

latent light
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i5-7700K?

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don't you mean 7600K

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@summer comet the game needs more than 4 cores to run stable

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your problem could be ram related

summer comet
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I've always had 16GB DDR4 so it wasn't ram

latent light
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is it single or dual channel

summer comet
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single? never heard of her. always double

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2x8GB

latent light
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got them in the correct slots too?

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if you have 4 ram slots, put them in the 2nd and 4th slot

summer comet
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Always worked fine for every other game. I no longer have the issue now that I upgraded so it doesn't really bother me anymore why it didn't work back then

prime heron
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I need help I can't install BFV

somber ivy
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hello i searh help 😦 in german or turkish

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da steht das sich den spiel nicht gekauft habe xd

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2 spiele sind futsch

supple bane
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english only please

somber ivy
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i dont can english :/

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i dont can open battlefield

supple bane
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this is an english only server im afraid.

somber ivy
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Even though I bought the game it says that I didn't buy it

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i use translate

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what can I do now?

supple bane
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did you buy it from origin ?

somber ivy
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yes

supple bane
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try restart origin

somber ivy
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I've been playing for months and now there is suddenly a problem

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I did that

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I bought battlefield 1 and battlefield 5 now they're both gone

sinful mantle
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call origin tech support

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as a fast translation; Rufen Sie EA technischen Support an

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granty you playing bfv today mate?

supple bane
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I have been playing all day with a few friends I know irl, I'm taking a break atm @sinful mantle

runic citrus
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I am not able to get bf 5. It keeps loading forever and when it finally works it pops up with an error

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Is there a fix so I can actually get the game?

prime heron
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has orign been hacked?

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can't see my games?

prime jasper
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Damn some dude won ps and xbox

prime jasper
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is their a way to make battlefield 5 scale with nvlink i am gaming at 4k have dual 2080tis it seems BFV likes to use only one card

latent light
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yeah BFV doesn't like dual GPUs

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even if you find a work around, it will be a bit stuttery and might get some artifacts

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@prime jasper

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I have heard people getting NVlink to work

summer comet
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Hasn't SLI become less popular after the 10XX series? I don't hear of many people doing dual 20XX builds?

prime jasper
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its quite normal if driving 4k120hz

latent light
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52 compute units at 1825 MHz, 8 cores at 3.8 GHz within a ~300w power envelope

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that's some serious efficiency

sinful mantle
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You can buy a game pad with mouse now as well,,,so x-box actually sounds like an alternative

hard moon
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i got BF5 to work (bc of origin library issues) but i have 54 fps average???? i played last week and i was running at like 130 or so

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i7 9700k, 1060 6gb, 24gb ram

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thoughts?

prime jasper
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its server issues i belive

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my mass effect game ran like shit

latent light
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unusual amount of ram

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is that 3x8GB or 1x8GB with 1x16GB

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if either, it may not be running in dual channel

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which is a huge performance factor in BFV

prime jasper
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that too

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servers still down

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so

hollow hornet
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How do you fix origin when it breaks

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I'm literally playing apex rn and it says I'm not connected to the origin servers

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I was on 97% download for bf5 eeeeee

prime jasper
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the servers are down

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they crashed

hollow hornet
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Oh lol

prime jasper
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alot game services crashing since server getting hit demand like they never seen

runic citrus
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Servers r back up

hard moon
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is that 3x8GB or 1x8GB with 1x16GB
@latent light sorry for late reply, 3x8GB because one of my 8 GB sticks was old and caused my PC to crash, have been playing like this for a long time, no issues with games until today

latent light
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do a UserBenchmark run

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it benchmarks all the components in your PC

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run it with nothing else open

hard moon
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said everything is outstanding

latent light
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look at the individual components

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does it say anything is performing as expected or below expectations?

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you can also post the link to the results here

hard moon
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my ram was a little below "outstanding"

supple bane
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@hard moon what settings and resolution ?

hard moon
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1080p 144hz, ran 130ish fps constantly at high with some settings on ultra

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tried lowering fov from 80 to 75 but no change, tried changing resolution and graphic settings

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still stuck at 50 fps average

supple bane
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You eint using any form of frame limiter are you ?

hard moon
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Nope, I checked if there was anything that could be limiting my FPS but there’s nothing

supple bane
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what exact graphics preset are you using ?

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and are you using FFR, if not you need to turn that on

hard moon
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I’ll check tomorrow and let you know

crude creek
#

do we think AMD will release zen3 late this year with all the news goin on?

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Id think theyde be focused on the console supply

gloomy gyro
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Which do you think is a better deal? A PC with RTX 2060 and i5-9400F for 850€ or a PC with GTX 1660 Ti and Ryzen 5 3600 for 820€?

opaque saddle
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2060 with 9400f sounds better

gloomy gyro
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Hmmm

opaque saddle
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better GPU or better CPU

gloomy gyro
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Its pre-built btw

west willow
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Basically yes, The RTX2060 obviously is the better GPU, but it's paired with a worse CPU

opaque saddle
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personally i would get 3600 but it sounds silly to get 1660ti

west willow
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same

opaque saddle
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see if you can select your own parts and ask the seller to build it for something like 50 bucks

gloomy gyro
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Why is 1660Ti silly?

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You cant really select parts

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If I were to build any of those PCs it would be 950€+

opaque saddle
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2060 is 18-20% faster than 1660ti

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9400F is around 0-3% faster than 3600 IN GAME

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i would say getting the 2060 with 9400f is a better deal for you

west willow
gloomy gyro
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Ok... And I think both CPUs would be the same for everyday tasks like web, word, excel

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I mean light tasks in general

west willow
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The i5 might be slightly faster, but it's usage will be higher and probably bottleneck faster in the future

opaque saddle
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fps drops will be an minor issue for 9400F

west willow
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for most games at least

opaque saddle
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compare to 3600. its good for budget gaming

gloomy gyro
#

And what is your opinion on ultrawide monitors for gaming?

opaque saddle
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its better off getting 144hz ultrawide

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but it's gonna be expensive

gloomy gyro
#

I was choosing between 29in 75Hz ultrawide and a 27in 144hz 16:9

opaque saddle
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i will get 27" 144HZ tbh

gloomy gyro
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They are about the same price

west willow
#

Normally If building it yourself I would go with a Ryzen (better value), but if it's a pre-built you have less of a choice

opaque saddle
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if you want to get a gaming ultrawide, its gonna be expensive for a good one

gloomy gyro
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I was thinking about building myself, but pre-built is better value

opaque saddle
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its alright to get a cheap one, but it will defeat the purpose of getting an ultrawide gaming monitor

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i got a viewsonic 27" 1440p 144Hz IPS for 220 euro

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it would say i can get a better KD in game with 144Hz, and cannot go back to 60Hz for gaming

gloomy gyro
#

I am thinking about the AOC 27G2U5

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Its IPS too

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144hz 1080p

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Looks good for 175€ to me

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Btw, is 144hz really that much different from 60hz?

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I mean is it really noticeable

opaque saddle
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my KD went from 2.8 to around 3.6 with 144Hz on average

gloomy gyro
#

Ok, but can you tell the difference by looking at it? Not by stats

opaque saddle
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yes

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but i must say you may not get a solid 144Hz with 2060

latent light
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@gloomy gyro the Ryzen 5 3600 is clearly better

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also future proof

opaque saddle
#

prebuilt

latent light
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i5-9400F doesn't have hyperthreading, something that a 6-core will need in a couple years

opaque saddle
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cannot swap parts

latent light
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you can put a new GPU in it

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in the future

opaque saddle
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yes but i would suggest him to ask someone to build a PC for him, instead of buying things twice

latent light
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Ryzen 5 3600 has 10% faster single core and 60% faster multicore

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way more futureproof

opaque saddle
#

in gaming Thonk

latent light
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also don't even consider a 6-core that doesn't have SMT/HT in 2020

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6-core is the next 4-core

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soon it will stutter in games just like 4-cores do now

opaque saddle
#

you shall recommend him to get a custom one

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may able to get what he wanted

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not what it's cost less for him

prime jasper
#

suggestion xbox one : please reduce time to kill on game make it like battlefield 1, i dont understand why you touch this option ???

latent light
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with the Ryzen 5 3600 system you'd only need to get a better GPU in a couple years from now, with the i5-9400F you'll get pegged to 100% usage in future games and will experience stutter and overall lower performance and the only way you would be able to upgrade is to buy a new motherboard and new CPU, which is way more of a hassle than just getting a new GPU

opaque saddle
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i think the better way is to get a custom build one, with 3600 and a better gpu tho

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so he doesnt need to buy the parts twice, plus, to play BFV in 144Hz

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even with my 2070S with DX11, it gets 158Hz in low settings on my monitor

latent light
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1440p?

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my RX 580 gets around 120-130 fps on all low settings

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in 1080p

gloomy gyro
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also don't even consider a 6-core that doesn't have SMT/HT in 2020
@latent light What is SMT/HT?

latent light
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multithreading/hyperthreading

gloomy gyro
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Hmmm

latent light
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when a CPU has double the amount of threads

gloomy gyro
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The 5 3600 also uses an ATX case, and the i5 9400F uses an mATX one

latent light
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I would get ATX any day over mATX just for the compatibility

gloomy gyro
#

This is the build with the 1660Ti, also it has a mouse as a "gift"

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The logitech G102

opaque saddle
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Yeah 1440p

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You can get a better one mate

latent light
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depends on budget

opaque saddle
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I would say SMT/HT is like a person (CPU) working with ONE Hand. SMT allows them to work with BOTH hands

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I meant the mouse

latent light
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Logitech G102 is actually a good value mouse

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it costs $30

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it's like a Deathadder but better

opaque saddle
#

It isn’t bad and I have tried that before

gloomy gyro
#

What is better? Ryzen 5 2600 with a RTX 2060 or a Ryzen 5 3600 with a GTX 1660 Ti?

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Sorry for this much questions, its hard picking a PC

supple bane
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Rtx 2060

west willow
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first one for sure

gloomy gyro
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You think it is fine for 800€?

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Oh I cant send screenshots

latent light
#

you can push 144hz better with a Ryzen 5 3600 due to the IPC advantage

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for example, if you want to play BFV at 1080p 144hz, the 2600 will only be able to get to around 120-130 fps but the 3600 will definitely be able to do 144 and up

gloomy gyro
#

They dont say the exact model of the 2060 🤔

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But will the GTX 1660Ti allow the 3600 to do that?

latent light
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yeah 1660Ti can do 144 fps at low settings iirc

gloomy gyro
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Btw I get average 50 fps on low now

latent light
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RTX 2060 could too but the 2600 will bottleneck it

gloomy gyro
#

Hmmm

latent light
#

if the RTX 2060 and R5 3600 were paired together, that would be a far better option

gloomy gyro
#

You talking with all the settings on low?

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They have it, but that build costs 950€

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Instead of 800

latent light
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that sucks because the 3600 only costs $50 more than the 2600 lol

#

if you buy parts individually

gloomy gyro
#

They got a fancier case, but I dont really care about it

#

If I buy parts individually it costs even more

#

My current PC was built by me with some help by others, but now going pre built is better value in Lithuania

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And why do they always have slower ram with intel builds?

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I thought ram speed doesnt matter much

latent light
#

it does

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big difference if you go from 2133 to 3000

gloomy gyro
#

For example for the 3600 they have 3200mhz

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And for the 2600 they have 3000mhz

latent light
#

oh that's because the JEDEC specs

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Intel 9th gen are officially capable of 2666

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Ryzen 3000 is officially capable of 3200

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Ryzen 2000 is capable of 2933

gloomy gyro
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Oh ok

latent light
#

official specs are controversial tho

gloomy gyro
#

By the way, is it a good idea to buy a separate HDD for the PCs? They both have 500GB nvme ssd's , but I dont see 500GB being enough for me

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Because I always hear people saying hdd is bad now that ssds are cheaper

latent light
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yeah that's fine

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SSDs are still significantly more expensive than HDDs

gloomy gyro
#

Yeah

latent light
#

for example, 1TB HDD is $40 while 1TB SSD is $100

gloomy gyro
#

The cheapest 1TB ssd I could find was 120€

molten coral
#

1tb for 100? what the heck

latent light
#

SSDs are good to use as the main operating system drive

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windows boots 4-5 times faster, apps load faster, ect.

gloomy gyro
#

Yeah, I have a 120gb ssd in my current PC

latent light
#

majority of games benefit from them but I still like having HDDs for games because I prefer having more games than having faster load times

gloomy gyro
#

I mean all my games take up about 600GB now

latent light
#

long loading times are good if you like to make trips to the bathroom or grabbing a snack too

gloomy gyro
#

Yeah

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Now I cant do it while my PC loads though

smoky ginkgo
#

I ned help with a pc i have a intel quad coreni5 16GB 1Tb windows 10 1050 graphics card

latent light
#

what i5 model is it?

smoky ginkgo
#

Is that good I'm new but its a bit slow for battlefield and that what i need to upgrade

latent light
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open 'Task Manager', click on the 'Performance' tab and click on CPU

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should tell you a lot about it

smoky ginkgo
#

Ok

latent light
#

you did say it's a quad core so it's definitely not an 8th gen or newer

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quad core CPUs struggle with BFV

smoky ginkgo
#

yeah

latent light
#

is it a laptop or desktop?

smoky ginkgo
#

Desktop

gray wyvern
#

bfv's just not optimized

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i7-6700k should run it just fine

latent light
#

games are utilizing more cores/threads

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dual cores became redundant a few years ago, now quad cores are starting to

#

next gen consoles sport a Ryzen 3000 series based 8-core and 16-thread CPU, which basically means 8-cores is becoming the new standard

timber perch
#

PSA Time if in any video for bfv optimization tells you to use a program called ddu DONT all it does is hijack your pc and make you reinstall winfows

prime jasper
#

you must have downloaded a malware off an unofficial site

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very common with programs like that

timber perch
#

Yah sry to bother anyone its just it freaked me the f out to see my mouse moving on its own and disc drive opening and closing

opaque saddle
#

If DX12 has been switch on in BFV, it gains FPS but lower the 1% FPS. I got 0FPS from my Build with DX12 sometimes. If aiming for smooth, gaming experience, DX12 with 1660ti can get a high Frame rate but not really good for gaming especially in BFV.

hard moon
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oi @latent light sorry for the ping but i'm about to try and see how my FPS go in BF5

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idk if i'm allowed to send screenshots in here

gloomy gyro
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@opaque saddle what do you mean "High framerate but not good for gaming"?

opaque saddle
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@gloomy gyro stuttering. like with DX12 on, my 2070S can get >160fps on BFV. but the fps drops to 40fps or even 0fps during gun fights

west willow
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Same for me, Dx12 gives an better average, but the 1 and 0.1% are way lower, which makes BFV a stuttery mess. (5700XT), I just use DX11 for now

clear hazel
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GUYS HELP

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i got GTX 1050ti Core i3 8100 8 ram and BF1 stutters a lot like with everything on high i get like 50 - 70 fps and on low i get 40 - 55 sth like this

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the game is broken sth ?

supple bane
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you dont meet the recommended specs for that game so it wont run amazingly. but you may be running into a cpu bottleneck on low settings. hence why you get more fps on high than on low

clear hazel
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idk

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also the game must run very well on these specs

supple bane
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no? the recommended specs is an i7 4790, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1060

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you have non of those things

west willow
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Yeah, the CPU, GPU and ram meet the minimum specs, but not the recommended

clear hazel
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am talking about BF1 btw

supple bane
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mhm

clear hazel
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not BFV

supple bane
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so am i

clear hazel
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how bro ?

supple bane
west willow
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And the the lower the settings, the more the CPU will bottleneck the GPU

clear hazel
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i dont understand bro

supple bane
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wdym you dont understand?

clear hazel
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like a lot of ppl tested the game with same specs and got +60 fps all the time on mid-high

supple bane
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yeah which is about what you get, that 10 or so fps can come from so many variables. They may have less background applications. they may have dual channel ram, their gpu may be clocked higher and their cpu may be turboing higher

clear hazel
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mmmmmm...

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does the ssd make any difference ?

supple bane
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not really

west willow
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Not for performance, only loading times

clear hazel
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ik

prime jasper
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I have question about ram for bf v

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I have 8 gb but sometimes there are painful lags does 12 gb is enough for this game?

supple bane
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i would never recommend 12gb of ram, mixing sticks is always a bad idea. Is your ram single channel or dual channel, IE do you have 1 stick or 2 ?

prime jasper
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I have 1 8gb ram stick and it's ddr4

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And i want to buy another

supple bane
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yeah, there is your issue

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bfv HATES single channel ram

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you are talking 60 fps

prime jasper
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My fps are good

supple bane
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yah and single channel ram will cause stutters..

west willow
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Yeah, look at the 1 and 0.1% lows

prime jasper
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My fps are good but i havr this icon what does it mean

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That 4 rectangles

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I cant sent picture

west willow
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packet loss I think

prime jasper
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It means low fps but i have 40-50

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On ultra i have 1050ti 4gb

west willow
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Are it normal rectangles or ones with '!' in them?

prime jasper
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Yes

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With !

west willow
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low fps, yes

prime jasper
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But sometimes there are clear ones

west willow
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If's yellow it's just a warning (below 60 probably), orange is severe.

prime jasper
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Buying another 8 gb will be a good idea?

latent light
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@clear hazel i3-8100 will get some stutter in 64-player game modes in BF1, and a lot more stutter in BFV

west willow
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clear ones are packet loss, so data being lost between your PC and the server. Could be on your end, the server's end or somewhere in between

clear hazel
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i guess the Duel Channel Ram would make a huge difference

prime jasper
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I read about it and people are saying i need more ram

west willow
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Especially if it's single channel it would definitely improve things

prime jasper
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I see double 8gb is good

latent light
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Yeah a single 8GB stick won't perform well, having two in dual channel will increase fps by up to 50%

clear hazel
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no way

latent light
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Yes

clear hazel
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jeez damn

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cant get more ram now lul

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Self Isolation

prime jasper
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I know

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was going to say, where yo getting it from

latent light
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BFV really benefits from dual channel memory because dual channel doubles the bandwidth which greatly improves latency between CPU and RAM communication

prime jasper
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So i must wait and play with those lags

clear hazel
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same here

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sad life

prime jasper
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I have some upgrades to buy but that money is now in reserve to buy groceries, depending on how long business is so dead

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But when i set my settings to low the icon is still there

clear hazel
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I have some upgrades to buy but that money is now in reserve to buy groceries, depending on how long business is so dead
hope this pandemic ends soon

prime jasper
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Me too

latent light
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I would buy a i5-9400F and update your motherboard BIOS so it can support it @clear hazel

prime jasper
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And again it's most dangerous in europe

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So i guess quarantine will be longer

clear hazel
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i would buy a new pc in a year sth

supple bane
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@prime jasper America has the most cases atm btw

clear hazel
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dont want 2 upgrade this pc

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just the ram i guess

prime jasper
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I live in poland ant there is 200 cases per day

latent light
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New York has 60,000 cases alone

west willow
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Belgium compared has 11 000 confirmed cases

prime jasper
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I need to upgrade my ram because i5 8400 2,8 ghz and 1050ti 4gb are very good

latent light
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1050Ti isn't that good

supple bane
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yeah its a low end gpu now a days

latent light
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RX 570 is cheaper than the 1050Ti and gets around 40% more fps on average

supple bane
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the i5 8400 is pretty decent tho..

latent light
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I see RX 570 for as low as $99

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Used ones for $60

clear hazel
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double that price in ma country

prime jasper
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x4 this price in my country

clear hazel
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HAHAH

prime jasper
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Maybe x5

clear hazel
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where tho ?

prime jasper
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P o l a n d

west willow
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The used market isn't that good everywhere though. A new RX570 can cost more than 110eur here

clear hazel
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damn

prime jasper
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For 1060

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You pay 1500$

latent light
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Lmao

clear hazel
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haa?

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dafuq

latent light
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Getting price gouged badly

prime jasper
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Yes that soinds like a joke

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But it's true

supple bane
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is that in PLN

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or usd?

prime jasper
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Yes PLN or Zł

latent light
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Oh

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So not $1500 USD

supple bane
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yeah it isnt worth anything compared to usd, gdp or euro

clear hazel
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also in Poland the average income is like 10000$

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idk

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heard this from a friend

prime jasper
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Bruh they wanted 500 zł for windows 10

clear hazel
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HAHAHAH

prime jasper
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And they gave me full fersion for free

west willow
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Thought it was weird, that would be the price of the most expensive 2080ti here

latent light
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With my income I could buy a RTX 2080 Super every week lmao

clear hazel
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a drug dealer ?

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lmao

prime jasper
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You want rtx price in my country?

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6000zł

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Bruh

gloomy gyro
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Well, 500zl would be 110€

prime jasper
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Yes

gloomy gyro
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So its the same in Lithuania

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For windows

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Its like 115 for windows home

prime jasper
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And full rtx computer with I5!

west willow
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1500zl is like $365 or 330eur

latent light
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I got a $5 windows key from ebay

prime jasper
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Costs 14000zł

west willow
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same, just install it from an USB stick and get a cheap key to get rid of the watermark.

prime jasper
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So in poland you have to be millionare to be a gamer

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But they gave me full win 10 version for free

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And they wanted extra 500zł

gloomy gyro
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I mean cheapest windows keys I could find were about 20€

clear hazel
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well lucky me i dont have 2 buy from local shops here
Amazon ships free 2 ma city Yaaai

west willow
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10-15eur for me too, but yeah

prime jasper
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So 1050ti with4gb it's best card we can have in poland

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1060 is 1500 zł +

gloomy gyro
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I buy PC stuff online too, its cheaper

prime jasper
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Yes but they can give you used card ant tell its new

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And*

gloomy gyro
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Well, I never had problems like that

clear hazel
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nah

prime jasper
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Me too

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But i jeard about it

clear hazel
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Amazon dont do that

gloomy gyro
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They can do the same if you buy not online 😀

clear hazel
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xD

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yes