technology

[river wyvern]

I think PS5 and XB1X will be neck to neck

Next gens only define the winners by their games library

[sour ivy]

@latent light you don’t think board manufacturers pay them to do that?

[brazen oracle]

i have about 4 hrs to kill and theres a micro center nearby. anyone kno bout any good deals goin on or what useless upgrades i shud make

[storm osprey]

@river wyvern thats basically how it has always been, even if a system was more powerful.. just look at ps2

[true cradle]

@brazen oracle whats your budget

if its high then get a 2080 ti or any high end graphics card, or get a new cpu

[storm osprey]

2080ti is a waste of money

get a 2080 super for 60% of the cost but get 90% the performance

[brazen oracle]

oh yikes. nothing that drastic

i already have a full build, was just wondering if theres like any small quality of life improvements i could make. cuz i was waiting on someone for a few hours and i was right next to a micro center

dont know when ill be out this way again

[astral merlin]

Maybe decent peripherals

[storm osprey]

pick up a 3600 for me

[brazen oracle]

I have a G pro keyboard, and a G402

[astral merlin]

Mousepad?

[brazen oracle]

yep. From razer 😂

[astral merlin]

Dunno looks like you got everything you need

[storm osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BI4UQK0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[brazen oracle]

yeah thats wht i thought as well. Might get some case fans though. current ones are rather noisy

[storm osprey]

get something like that if they have them there

fuck spending money on canned air

[brazen oracle]

oh i already got one of those babies

from DeWalt

[storm osprey]

jesus...

[brazen oracle]

https://streamable.com/7l92i @storm osprey

unbelievable i know

[storm osprey]

thats a fucking leaf blower

[brazen oracle]

it do be gettin the job done tho

[wind laurel]

I have that exact one, it works wonders. 😂

[storm osprey]

fucking leaf blower for pc cleaning

neandrathals

[wind laurel]

Lol, nowhere near as big as a leaf blower. xD

Either way, beats canned air.

[storm osprey]

my air blower is like 1/3 the size of that

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_v7p3xEPDM

[coarse nimbus]

at least jay can build a better set of shelving units

[latent light]

sucks that I can never play online games during the afternoon because of high bandwidth usage when everyone on this road is home, sitting at 700 ping rn

it's not just my home network but the outdated internet lines here

I asked one of the technicians how much would it cost for them to install new infrastructure on my road and they said $50,000 at least

[lofty light]

I know the feels man, bought my own place and I get even less bandwidth here

Not fun to play PvP modes when everyone is rubber banding non stop

[prime jasper]

where do i ask for help :(

[storm osprey]

for?

this chat is more for tech talk, but we occasionally help because people assume we are tech support

if its BFV or EA in game/account related

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[prime jasper]

I can't get audio from my game

[storm osprey]

repair game or reinstall

if its only bfv

[prime jasper]

its bf1

[wheat copper]

i play bfv on an atari

[storm osprey]

well then repair and redownload bf1

[strange tendon]

my friend gets the orange boxes top right when he plays, and it results in him having significant FPS drops and some rollback/tping around. he has a good pc and fine internet

[lofty lake]

sounds like packet loss

[strange tendon]

and how do u prevent that?

[lofty lake]

sometimes its enough to just change the server

[wraith knoll]

@strange tendon you should refer to which box he's getting, there's one for packet loss, another one for poor ping, and another one for low fps

[red birch]

hi. in bf4 my crosshair disappeared. How to fix it. Please!

[latent light]

New rumor that Nvidia won't launch next gen Ampere until AMD launches their next gen RDNA2
so likely a Q4 release date

[storm osprey]

i guess thats one situation where competition is a negative for consumers

companies waiting on each other to react to one another

but hopefully that just means better products or better prices

[latent light]

Nvidia is afraid of big Navi

if they weren't scared, they wouldn't wait for the competition's response first

[storm osprey]

with 7nm being cheaper to manufacture couldnt amd do what they did with 5700/xt and put out a product at one price and then just drop it when nvidia reacts

[latent light]

they probably will

[wild parrot]

Any way to stop BF 1 lag in an i3 something pc?

Pls tell me

I suffer

[supple bane]

if it has an i3 then yes it most likely will lag

do you know what i3 it is ?

[wild parrot]

Mmm

Tell tell tell

Me

[supple bane]

heres how you find out

open task manager

[wild parrot]

Ok

[supple bane]

click here

at the bottom

then click there

[wild parrot]

Ok i am there

[supple bane]

go to cpu and type that which is in the top right

[wild parrot]

i3 4710 CPU

That is it

[supple bane]

im afraid that will really suffer in bf titles

[wild parrot]

Ohh god

[supple bane]

what gpu do you have ? follow the same steps just click gpu instead of cpu

and read the top right word

[wild parrot]

NVIDIA GeForce GT 720

[supple bane]

mmm yeah

there is nothing you can do

[wild parrot]

Lol

[supple bane]

you could try play at 720p low settings

[wild parrot]

New cpu

Lol

[supple bane]

you would need a new everything man

[wild parrot]

Or that way

Either way i spend money XD

At least thanks for giving me information

[prime jasper]

new cpu and new gpu would breathe life into it

but yeah you would need a new mobo to be in the current gen

[supple bane]

and im gonna assume new ram

[prime jasper]

at least every cpu for that board would be used and could be had for quite cheap

[latent light]

@wild parrot you'd get dramatically higher performance on console lmao

GT 720 can't even run the game at 20 fps at 720p

[latent light]

damn

Nvidia Ampere might not be on the 7nm node, it will likely be on Samsung's 10nm node

oof

hopefully that isn't true because Samsung's 10nm isn't that great

the chance of seeing a Kepler -> Maxwell or Maxwell -> Pascal jump is unlikely

[lofty light]

Sounds like more time for AMD to catch up then

Additionally I shouldn't have to feel bad about my 2080ti purchase for longer

[latent light]

we should expect 40% more performance than the 2080Ti

that GA102 GPU that has 5376 cores, a 2080Ti has 4352

21% more cores for ~40% more performance isn't impressive imo

sounds like another Pascal -> Turing jump

[lofty light]

Sounds like they're reaching the end of the scalability of the current process

[real apex]

guys help! my cpu usage is 100% while my gpu usage is around 50-60% on the game and the framerate is fixed between 30-60 on every setting (low-midum-high-ultra) I tried to enable and disable DX12 (didnt work) and i tried to turn on future frame rendering but it worked on practice range and gpu usage have been increased to 90% but when i joined a online matched it decreased to 50% again... pls help...

my pc:
i7-6700k (not oc)
gtx 980ti
8gb ram

[sand phoenix]

origin blank screen cleared cache reinstalled what do

[thick copper]

Oc the cpu

[lament sparrow]

too many damn hackers

and then they make new accounts to hack

[red birch]

too many damn hackers
@lament sparrow ha-ha that's true, ha-ha... too many nowadays!

[lament sparrow]

especially ASian servers

[prime jasper]

@real apex you need more RAM

8gb is minimum spec

[real apex]

owh

[graceful quartz]

i unlocked the kar 98 during the bug face and still havent got it

nor my battle coins

wth

[real apex]

@prime jasper ok i will try to upgrade it

thank you

[prime jasper]

get a matching 16gb kit

mix n matching ram is bad

[lofty light]

I wouldn't think he'd be using all 8GB in just BFV though

@real apex what's your CPU temps like? Also check if you're actually using all your ram

[prime jasper]

yes....yes bfv will easily max out 8gb lmao

its the minimum spec for the game

this isnt even considering background apps like discord

[prime jasper]

@real apex is it bottlenecking?

When usage is more than gpu ...

Check there if your pc is attacked by malware

[real apex]

@lofty light yes i am using 100% of my ram on the game and the cpu temp is around 80

@prime jasper gtx 980 ti + i7 6700k is perfect match up but idk why it does that on battlefield v only

[prime jasper]

because you dont have enough RAM

simple as

[storm osprey]

i7 6700k is 4c8t too, at 1080p you are pretty cpu dependent for bfv

though its not a bad cpu, and meets specs, its kind of barely what some will recommend

[prime jasper]

@real apex well my friend has ryzen 5 and 1070ti..Due to some issue his cpu usage was also going to 100%.So he reinstalled the window and everything get f9.At last if you dont have any option reinstall ur os.

[storm osprey]

but that only explains high cpu usage and low gpu usage, ram is probably the biggest problem

[prime jasper]

@prime jasperThis is not ram issue.He will face stuttering in less ram thats all no cpu usage

its bottlenecking because hes at minimum RAM lol

its not a hard issue to figure out

[supple bane]

yeah its likely going to be a ram issue

@real apex is it single channel or dual channel ram?\

[prime jasper]

@supple baneis there a Quad channel..just asking for knowledge?

[supple bane]

yes

[prime jasper]

@supple banewhat is requirments or how it works

Breifly explain

[supple bane]

you just need a motherboard which has 4 ram slots and supports quad channel, then you have to fill every slot

[prime jasper]

i have 4 slots but i dont know does it support Quad channel or not

if its a desktop consumer board like for an i7, then probably not

generally only HEDT or server boards have quad channel

[real apex]

@supple bane single

@prime jasper i think i ma do that...

But i will try the rams first

[prime jasper]

Ok..But i am not sure reinstalling your os will work ,my friend did that and it work for him. so i am just telling you.

[real apex]

It ok, i gotta reset my pc too since i have many useless stuff

Anyways thank you y’all for your suggestions i will try to solve this problem i hope y’all have a nice day

[prime jasper]

Yeah You should reset your pc in 6 months.Make sure defragment you disk as well

[real apex]

Oook ty!

[prime jasper]

I would be happy to know if your problem solved

[real apex]

I will try to update u when i do it then

[prime jasper]

👍

[supple bane]

@real apex no there is your issue, this game HATES, single channel ram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo&t=63s

60 fps increase with dual channel ram

[real apex]

@supple bane oh damnnn thats why... guess that i need to buy extra ram then... thank you for showing me that!

Single was 60% gpu usage

Double was 80-90%

[prime jasper]

yeah but just get a matched kit of 16, you'll get the best of everything

[latent light]

@prime jasper @supple bane wrong, quad channel memory requires 8 RAM slots

only supported by HEDT platforms like Threadripper and Skylake-X

[prime jasper]

Ohh

@supple banehow much fps on bfv if 4x ram stick of 2gb

[latent light]

still pretty bad

[supple bane]

you need 16gb to get decent fps

[prime jasper]

Yup

[violet plank]

ffs that smb3 fix for win10 takes forever to install

[prime jasper]

can anyone help my with my fps problems on bf 5

post your specs

okay

and resolution

am

gpu 1080 ti

i7-8550u

3840x1080

ram 16

that doesnt make any sense

you have a 1080ti in your laptop?

egpu

that processor is not ideal for gaming, being a low power U type, it may just be throttling especially since most laptops have bad cooling

it only happnes on bf 5

cpu temp is 68

try dx12 if you havent

turn off vsync too

okay dx12 btw i have the mx150 on

should i turn it off?

yes? lol if you were running on that no wonder your fps sucked

i mean its on

its not running on it tho

[forest token]

try enabling future frame rendering on if it is off

[prime jasper]

okay

[mild bough]

Anyone know why I can't hear anything on Discord?

It is only discord

My output device is set as the same as the headset i'm using

[errant cairn]

🤷

@mild boughwere you in a voice channel?

[mild bough]

No private

[errant cairn]

Exit out of the voice channel, delete the tab, re open discord

[mild bough]

So un-install Discord and it fix?

[errant cairn]

That's what I do when it does it to me

No @mild bough

Don't uninstall

Delete the tab you have opened for discord

[mild bough]

man the tab is just a shortcut so how would that fix it

oh

[supple bane]

he means the browser version of discord

and i assume you dont

[errant cairn]

Im on mobile

[half gate]

My xbox cant connect to the EA Servers

[modest pike]

Same but on ps4

[storm osprey]

https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/140933721929940992/687782065760108608

[modern prawn]

Lol

[solar sonnet]

Ctrl+Shift+Apple Button

[lofty light]

Wut

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-35w-tdp-comet-lake-cpu-123w-power-draw?

wat is the point lmao

[coarse nimbus]

dont you mean watt is the point?

[prime jasper]

aye guys can i get ur opinion about this procie
Ryzen 5 2600 or Ryzen 5 3500 ?

2600 has 12 threads and 3500 only 6

both have 6 cores

[opaque saddle]

Unless you got the 3500x from China, or getting the OEM parts from the stores. It’s almost impossible to get 3500x out right

If I got a chance, I may pick 3500 because of the better microarchitecture and overall value. 3500 should gives more gaming performance out of the box. Unless you aiming for using the 2600 on all LOWEST or low to medium settings, it should give you better stability for frame.

[lofty light]

Ehhh

What mobo are you going for

[opaque saddle]

Hey manic

[prime jasper]

ASrock B450m hdv

[opaque saddle]

Check out tech fast deals, it’s too cheap to build pc with them

[lofty light]

If you're getting an older one without PCIE 4 I'd get the 2600 because I hate the idea of getting a core without multithreading

[opaque saddle]

Depends

Depends people wants more FPS

Or stability

[lofty light]

With the rate things are supporting more threads odds are more things would prefer threads over raw speed

[prime jasper]

i saw some benchmark video 3500 has more 20-30 fps

than 2600

[lofty light]

Again depends on what games or software you're running but they'll have benefits over each other

[opaque saddle]

Unless you are aiming for low on settings in games

[prime jasper]

mostly Battlefield series

[opaque saddle]

I don’t see the point going for 2600

You should check out how cheap 2700x can be

[prime jasper]

oh lemme see

[lofty light]

These are the only dudes I'd reccomend for benchmarks of them https://youtu.be/n57N1T3haWk

[prime jasper]

@opaque saddle its Ryzen 7 2700x ?

[opaque saddle]

It was 125 right here

Yeah

With tax

[prime jasper]

@lofty light oh ok ty im gonna watch it

@opaque saddle its $200+

in my country

[opaque saddle]

I converted to USD

[lofty light]

Ahhhh okay so the 3500X is similar to the 2700X in perf

[prime jasper]

ohh

[opaque saddle]

Zen+ to Zen2 gets 10-20% raw performance

[lofty light]

Depends overall though what you're using it for

[prime jasper]

3500 and 3500x $34 difference

[opaque saddle]

Depends on whether you’re aiming for more FPS or stability as I stated

[lofty light]

I hate the idea of reccomending a CPU that has been artificially nerfed

[opaque saddle]

You meant no SMT

[lofty light]

Which is the 3500 without the SMT

Ye

It's the same case with the Intel chips

[opaque saddle]

You should see how bad Nvidia did to their gpu

Cheaper parts seems giving their customer a better product value

But if people always go for the cheaper options, or an expensive option maybe isn’t what they wanted

[prime jasper]

in my country 3500 the difference is only $ 4 more than 2600

[red trellis]

hello i wanna know if my asrock ab350m, support oc to ryzen 1600 i tryed 3.8 at 1.27v and fail

[supple bane]

I think it does support overclocking, but I doubt it will be any good for it,

[prime jasper]

you can OC any ryzen but the 1600 is just not a good chip for it regardless

[brazen oracle]

kinda cringe when ppl who wont notice the benefits of overclocking do it

[prime jasper]

ryzens arent like the old intels where you could squeeze 500mhz+ with little effort

[elder bane]

Who OC processor these days

[prime jasper]

no need to with PBO anyway

[brazen oracle]

id rather have my cpu running cooler

than increase clocks by 300mhz and add 20 degrees

[opaque saddle]

Unless you switched off Turbo Boost or Precision Boost tho. if the cpu is running under the base frequency, it wont increase the temp above the ambient temp too much

[prime jasper]

1st gen ryzen doesnt even have precision boost

[opaque saddle]

i meant the cpu running above the base clock

this is how it heats up

[quick locust]

i overclocked my cpu

but would need better cooling to go higher

[opaque saddle]

running bfv without SMT and Turbo

maxed out at 45C and 17W power

[prime jasper]

why not

[supple bane]

I'm gonna get a 2070 instead of a 5700xt

Smart?

Yes or no?

[opaque saddle]

not really

Depending whether you’ll need Ray Tracing or not

[supple bane]

i dont need ray tracing

just as much fps as possible

but this thought is in light of the 5700xt driver issues

[prime jasper]

I thought the recent AMD drivers fixed several issues

[supple bane]

a friend of mine went from a 980ti from a 5700xt only for it to have unusable issues

so i have been put off

im still happy to buy one if someone can give me an argument that if i buy one it wont be a dud

[prime jasper]

idk Ive never used one

I guess its a price to perf issue

[supple bane]

yeah

for a 2070 id be paying the same money for less performance, but i am guaranteed stability

[opaque saddle]

i got 2070s i have touched RT in the first week only

[wind laurel]

Only game worth RT right now is Control and maybe Metro Exodus really.

The rest are meh.

[storm osprey]

i havent been using my 5700 much, but drivers seem good

i will say that i have had a couple of random shutdowns

BUT i am using a corsair 450w bronze rated psu which is possible to be causing some shutdowns

[quick locust]

might be

@opaque saddle my 8700K with HT on uses 130-160W under full load

[storm osprey]

ive been told a 5700 can run on GOOD 450w psus... but i dont think mine is

[opaque saddle]

If you got a low wattage PSU. As I said to disable HT to give more power to the GPU

But I just cannot believed my 3600 can run bfv at 17w, instead of the rated a 65w, cpu

Generated only 20c above the ambient temp
Unless the base clock too low otherwise it may worth doing it for laptop especially when idling

[buoyant oriole]

@prime jasper KillaQueen!!

[prime jasper]

U wut?

[buoyant oriole]

Watch JoJo?

[prime jasper]

Nope lol

[molten coral]

Then watch it

[prime jasper]

But I don't like north korean cartoons

[slim loom]

how do u use dlss with battlefield V?

[sinful mantle]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-v-metro-exodus-ray-tracing-dlss/?ncid=afm-chs-44270&ranMID=44270&ranEAID=msYS1Nvjv4c&ranSiteID=msYS1Nvjv4c-EDZi5xxgpcL8MqUX1uJLIQ

check that ^

Enable “NVIDIA RTX” in the Video options menu, select a “Ray Tracing” detail level, and turn on “DLSS”

[slim loom]

where do i enable nvidia rtx?

i have a 2080 RTX ti graphics card

and im updated on my drivers, and my windows is up to date

[prime jasper]

You have to turn on dx12

[slim loom]

i have that done

[lean cipher]

is an rx580 with 2 x 8 gb ram enough to have constant 60-70 FPS

in bfv

[prime jasper]

Should be yeah

Maybe more

[lean cipher]

ok

cool

[warm night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov6kFXIEGeI&t=199s

its all you need

[wraith knoll]

Hey why am I getting only 80-120 fps with an rtx 2060- Ryzen 5 3600 in bf1 on medium settings?

I get 144 in bf V.

Should I use dx 12?

[prime jasper]

Worth a shot

[untold tiger]

Any audio geeks here?

[sinful mantle]

yeah man im an audiophile

what up?

[untold tiger]

Are you one of those delusional audiophiles, or an Objectivist?

[sinful mantle]

im a progressive realist

[untold tiger]

You don't insist that your $70,000 power cable drastically warms the sound?

[sinful mantle]

my 70k what?

imm vertually broke

virtually*

[untold tiger]

Ah, good

If you want genuine entertainment, join a Facebook group called Audiophiles - North America

Those people live in another universe

[sinful mantle]

i dont use facebook...never got it

[untold tiger]

You saved your pride.

[sinful mantle]

im also a purist

yep thank you thank you...heh-heh

[untold tiger]

What DAC/Amp you run?

[sinful mantle]

actually i dont own any equipment i do however run an old sound blaster.

[untold tiger]

Time to upgrade my guy.

[sinful mantle]

yeah it is duel channel

[untold tiger]

I'm running a Schiit Modi 3 DAC and Schiit Magni 3+ amplifier with Audio-Technica ATH-AD900X headphones

With a FiiO Q1 Mark II DAC/Amp and Koss PortaPros for my portable setup which I'm using right now at work

[sinful mantle]

man i havent used hardware in years

[untold tiger]

Honestly, Koss dominates the budget audio segment for headphones.

[sinful mantle]

it always has

[untold tiger]

Sub-$50 headphones that grossly outperform some $200 headphones

I'm probably grabbing KPH30i's soon.

PortaPros are my daily drivers on the go.

[sinful mantle]

sorry had to fight off a windows update

couldnt even type

so yeah im actually pondering getting some equipment

[untold tiger]

Schiit Stack is hard to beat in terms of value/performance balance.

[sinful mantle]

are you a musician?

[untold tiger]

No.

[sinful mantle]

i come to the audio scene as a musician...do you record?

[untold tiger]

I'm an enthusiast who doesn't fall for audio snake oil, and there's fuck tons of it.

I do recommend Tidal as a streaming service though. Much better quality than Spotify and Apple Music.

[sinful mantle]

i agree

[untold tiger]

Even their standard subscription is 320-AAC, which is the same sample rate as Spotify but with a lesser compressed format.

Apple Music is only 256-AAC

The lesser compression gets beaten by Spotify's much higher sample. But Tidal combines the two, while offering up to 24/96 Hi-Res FLAC

[sinful mantle]

ah yeah that compression is impressive though

[untold tiger]

On my main setup I can the difference between CD quality and MP4 though

Mainly on the extended lows and resolute highs. Still pretty good though.

[sinful mantle]

uyeah i can as well...kexp used to stream at cd quality 1000k +

bill gates subsidized that station

[untold tiger]

Tidal Hi-Fi, Amazon HD, and Qobuz

All have CD Quality or Hi-Res

[sinful mantle]

what ever happened to the promised 4.1 remastered recordings?

thought that was gonna be the new thing

[untold tiger]

44.1

That's CD Quality

[sinful mantle]

no i mean from stereo to 4 point

[untold tiger]

Oh, I'm not sure

DSD is the best there is right now, but support is very thin.

[sinful mantle]

the industry was going to remaster all recordings to a 4.1 format

[untold tiger]

I think you mean 16-bit 44.1Hz. A lot of older albums are mastered to vinyl., which regardless of what delusional audiophiles think, is much lower quality.

You saw some notable remasters in the late 90's and 00's, but not outright

[sinful mantle]

no i mean from 2 discrete channels to 4 discrete channels

[untold tiger]

I can't answer that.

If you want the best possible sound though, buy a DSD native DAC and start buying DSD music

[sinful mantle]

its a unanswerable question was just wondering why that hasnt happened the tech is available

[untold tiger]

Probably costly and time consuming

[sinful mantle]

yeah it would indeed be time consuming but also i beieve that the user will be able to remaster to some degree

[untold tiger]

As for equipment though, no need to go overkill.

Scale towards what you have headphone/speaker wise.

[sinful mantle]

oh of course not

[untold tiger]

A quality DAC is important, but their quality diminishes pretty quickly since they have a basic function.

[sinful mantle]

yeah i have some lansing studio monitors an old gerard pre amp and krugger amp...all tubes

[untold tiger]

My Modi 3 sounds much better than my old FiiO E10K ans Q1 Mark II

But it's $99, and it's just a DAC. No built-in amplifier.

[sinful mantle]

plus like i say a soundblaster duel channel card

[untold tiger]

Sound Cards are still relevant and better than ever.

[sinful mantle]

i agree

[untold tiger]

They just suffer from electrical inference from the computer.

[sinful mantle]

you can run an analog isolator

[untold tiger]

Also power delivery and inputs

The interference is coming from being in the computer and connected to a PCI-E slot

[sinful mantle]

the blaster is a PCI card

but yeah that would still be bus interfered

[untold tiger]

External is always better though.

[sinful mantle]

for recording indeed

[untold tiger]

For everything

[sinful mantle]

thus the analog isolater

then reconvert to digital

[untold tiger]

Sound Cards these days are more convenience.

Don't take up desk space

[sinful mantle]

virtual studios for less than 5k

[untold tiger]

And they usually feature software, while most external solutions are driverless

[sinful mantle]

just a few years ago the price tag was like 15k

and analog

hell 20 years ago a comparable analog studio would be like 50k

[untold tiger]

Technology has come a long way

A $200 setup stomps on $20,000 equipment from 20 years ago

Better sound processing and software

[sinful mantle]

fuck yeah all tech has and its Exponential

[untold tiger]

I'm about to upgrade to Tidal Hi-Fi

I want lossless

$20-mo

$240 a year gets you the equivalent of a fuck ton of CDs

[sinful mantle]

i stream internet stations

not the usual but mostly university and some independant

some great post psychedelic stuff out of europe these days

[untold tiger]

You into Shpongle or Ott?

Kaya Project

[sinful mantle]

some 320k stuff

bit rate that is

[untold tiger]

I'm listening to 320-AAC right now

[sinful mantle]

so am i mp3 at 320k

[untold tiger]

It's technically MP4

MP3 is like 128kbps

CD is like 1500kbps

Mostly translates to not becoming muddy or distorted at volume

[sinful mantle]

typically 128 but some streams are at 92k, 256k, as well as 320k

yeah thats true volume

[untold tiger]

It's like impedance for headphones

[sinful mantle]

via distortion

[untold tiger]

The higher the impedance, the more power they require to drive, but the less distortion they produce at volume.

Koss loves 60ohm drivers

Makes for a little more breathing room

24-34ohm is the average

Then higher end audiophile sets are 300ohms

[sinful mantle]

yeah so that at higher frequencies lower impedance?

[untold tiger]

about to drive home, brb

[sinful mantle]

okay nice talking to you see you later

[untold tiger]

lol my relief cucked me, so I'm getting at least 3-4 hours of OT

[pallid silo]

4k avermedia I have mine with a 1700 and 1650super probably gonna get a 3700x once it drops in the price and 1080p streaming becomes popular

[opaque saddle]

AMD have dropped the price of their Zen2 processors

[pallid silo]

@opaque saddle stream pc isn't worth 250 quid for a cpu

[pallid silo]

Might buy a 3600 stick that in my gaming pc and then take the 3700x out of the gaming pc and put into stream pc

[opaque saddle]

Depends.

Get 3700x tho

I got 3600 but not happy with the performance

I know it’s actually enough got a 2070s but because of the next gen console

[pallid silo]

Why? 3600 pc will only play games

[opaque saddle]

If you get a more expensive cpu, it should beat the 8cores cpu and it’ll good enough for the next 4-5 years

Sorry getting a bit drunk

[quick locust]

Lol

[pallid silo]

3600 is basically the same fps compared to a 3700x

Vega64

[quick locust]

Yep

[opaque saddle]

If you want to do streaming tho

[pallid silo]

So 3700x in stream pc and I'll buy a 3600 for game px

Pc

I have a dual pc setup

[opaque saddle]

If you switched off SMT and it will be more than 90% running bfv in the background

[pallid silo]

@opaque saddle I have 2 pcs

1 for game

1 for obs

[opaque saddle]

I got 5

One MacBook and one laptop

[pallid silo]

Okay but I'm saying from game pc I don't run anything apart from my game

[opaque saddle]

One server and two desktop

3600 will be good enough

But if you got >2070 it’s better off getting a 3700x

[pallid silo]

Really... I'll be getting a 5700xt soon

[opaque saddle]

i meant i got 2070s but i paired it with 3600

i was playing BFV with the setup but it seems the 3600 is to weak to run BFV at 144HZ

[pallid silo]

1440p 144hz?

[opaque saddle]

yeah

[pallid silo]

Hmmm my old 2600 could do 1440p 144hz with a vega64

[opaque saddle]

i meant i use low settings to avoid getting <143fps

[pallid silo]

Ah I use medium on the 2600

[opaque saddle]

if i use low and i can see enemies

[pallid silo]

And some ultra

[opaque saddle]

and you know what

[pallid silo]

Vega64 probably. Better card then

[opaque saddle]

i used to have a quad core xeon on my 960

it was struggling to milk the fps

was getting 60fps on low settings (without the document config)

[quick locust]

I run 1440p 60 fps

In bfv

[west willow]

@opaque saddle On ultra 1440p my 3600 is at 60-80% usage, but I can see it bottlenecking if you play on low or lower resolutions for some reason.

[opaque saddle]

@west willow because you can see enemies in long range without zooming, it works really well as a sniper with low res

[west willow]

Oh, so you're on of those filthy snipers who always kill me : p

[prime jasper]

can i run batlle feild V into my pc has : duel-core 10 GB RAM / GRAPHIC intel 41

[west willow]

No, not a chance

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper dual-core CPU will hold you back, not sure what model it is. 10GB of RAM is decent but we don't know if it's DDR3, 4, and Intel HD is too slow if that's what you are getting at here

[west willow]

The min specs are an i5 6600k, 8gb of ram and a gtx660, but even on that you won't get a decent experience

[violet plank]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[opaque saddle]

nah was getting 350ms ping on overseas servers when OCE servers are dead offically

cant even kill people as a support of you got 0.35 delay for every actions that you have done. quite difficult to kill enemies aye

[west willow]

Understandable then, thought you were just one of these recon or lmg campers. Oceania is a different story though

[opaque saddle]

pretty bad aye

got one server up during mid night

or maybe two during weekends

more likely will be full

[west willow]

One or two populated servers at most, horrible ping if you wan to have a decent game : /

[opaque saddle]

Will be very happy if its running tho

[sinful mantle]

there was some server crashes in NA and EU last night as well.

[wraith knoll]

anyone using a logitech mouse? I didn't think the software would be that bad.

The rgb on the mouse keeps turning on every time I open a game , I have to open the software and untick "allow apps to control rgb lighting" probably 50 times a day.

[sinful mantle]

what about new drivers for it?

maybe incompatible to the new bfv updaate...im just speculating here

or a fernware update

fermware*

have you tried any 3rd party software in order to control the mouses settings?...theres one called "aurora"

[wraith knoll]

@sinful mantle it does in with not only bf v but also most of my programs/apps. Even discord turns the light back on and I need to manually turn it off . Thanks for the suggestion , I'll try aurora. And all my drivers are up to date, I did check manually

[supple bane]

Man I hate the uk

There is no decent 2070's

There are 3 options I have, the rest of 500 pound or 613 usd

The only options I have are the msi tri frozr gigabyte dual fan and palit mini

[latent light]

msi is the clear choice of those 3

any Gigabyte card with 2 fans I've ever owned was louder than a blower style cooler

like my current RX 580 lmao

[supple bane]

Yeah I think that's the one I'm going for, I just cant find review on it any where

If you search it in YouTube its like it doesnt exist

[opaque saddle]

I got the Palit GTS450 (yes almost 10 years ago) and it failed within a year

If you’re getting a GPU. Remember warranty services is actually part of the deal

[wraith knoll]

I have this weird problem in BF V where if I set my game to dx12 the textures often flicker and I get a lot of stuttering / freezing issues. On dx11, it runs perfectly fine. Anyone else?

[supple bane]

thats not a problem

just leave it on dx 11

if you have issues on dx 12 dont use it

[lofty light]

Pretty much, only some hardware will have a better experience on DX12 unfortunately

[wraith knoll]

@lofty light I have a rtx 2060, that is, the latest gen of cards with latest drivers. And the game is nearly unplayable with dx12. I don't use rtx anyways and don't care but I don't see why they would implement dx12 if it's not working for anyone.

[lofty light]

It works for me 🤷

Sounds like you've just got something in your system that doesn't like it, it's not just the GPU it's every component almost that can have an effect

[supple bane]

from what i know, amd gpu's are better for dx 12. nvidia are better with dx 11

you dont get any benifit from going to dx 12, you eint missing out on anything. same game, same visuals, just different optimization for different components

[lofty light]

Pretty much, some hardware does better with one over the other is the only difference

Worth trying but you're not missing out if it doesn't work

[wraith knoll]

@lofty light I have no defect in my components, I've been having this issue since bf V launched in late 2018 and play a lot of games using dx12, no issues

[lofty light]

Didn't say you have a defect buddy, just that your hardware doesn't like the BFV implementation of it.

Others do, no problem either way.

[wraith knoll]

I don't see how this would be possible since I have pretty standard harwdware, but ok, I'll look into it

other than that the game runs fantastic on dx11

[violet plank]

stuttering/flickering with nvidia cards and dx12 is very common

nothing you can do

except use dx11

[supple bane]

amd cards are for dx 12 nvidia are for dx 11

keep that rule in your head

[wraith knoll]

rtx = dx12 though

[supple bane]

works most of the time

[wraith knoll]

rtx = nvidia

[violet plank]

does not change that fact

it was rushed in as a showcase

rtx

[wraith knoll]

so , just poor implementation I'm guessing

[violet plank]

yep

[wraith knoll]

who uses rtx anyways, lol. I'll try in single player and see if it's the same thing. I haven't played single player since launch.

[violet plank]

i wouldn't use it for multiplayer for sure lol

bad fps,bad sight of enemies

[wraith knoll]

If I had a 2080ti I'd probably use it, lol

you can still turn most of the graphics down

The weapons and vehicles look incredible with rtx, that's the main reason

[violet plank]

all on lowest setting except mesh on ultra,the way i go

so you see your enemies the best possible way

[wraith knoll]

I have everything set on low, I tried using ulltra mesh setting but can't see a difference and I loose about 10 fps.

Do you use future frame rendering ? or leave it off?

[violet plank]

i got 144fps,all i need 😉

nope

but if you miss some frames you might wanna turn it on

slightly higher input lag tho

[wraith knoll]

Damn, everything on low, FF off, I get about 100-130 fps with a 2060 - ryzen 5 3600

FF on, it's about 140-160

[violet plank]

sounds about right imo

err,what resolution ?

[wraith knoll]

1080p of course

[violet plank]

not sure then,i'm playing on 1440p

got all the film grain and shit off ?

[wraith knoll]

Yea, always

I heard that bf was quite ram heavy is that true? I'm using some corsair vengeance from 2017, great ram but no the fastest speed (2666 Overclocked to 3000)

[violet plank]

maybe the 2060 is limiting,not sure,maybe someone who plays 1080p can give better advice

what you need is dual channel ram

[wraith knoll]

I have quad channel, lol

[violet plank]

2x 8 gig

well that's ok too lol

[wraith knoll]

I have 4 x 8

[violet plank]

same here

just 1 stick drops your fps hard

[wraith knoll]

I'm guessing you're using a 2070 ti or 1080 ti

[violet plank]

why i asked

1080ti

[wraith knoll]

yea, good card

[violet plank]

yep

you could get about 10fps more if you manually tweak all your ram settings,but i would advice against it until you're familiar with that stuff

[lofty light]

Even on a 2080ti I wouldn't reccomend RTX unless you're on 1080p

I barely get my 120hz on my monitor with one with everything maxed

[west willow]

True, ray-tracing absolutely destroys your fps. Not worth it in my opinion (at least for now) Also 1080p on a monitor with a higher native res will look pretty horrendous and defeats the point of RTX (better realistic lighting and reflections is not worth it, when you need to turn other settings down to have a decent framerate).

[lofty light]

Exactly, basically it's worthless ATM unless you use it for pretty photos and tech demos

[west willow]

Good for screenshots

That's about it

[lofty light]

And as a marketing ploy

[latent light]

https://www.techradar.com/news/intels-core-i3-10100-could-be-the-best-value-gaming-cpu-ever-made

10th gen i3 gets hyperthreading, basically making it a i7-7700

Still not a good choice as the Ryzen 5 1600AF

[quick locust]

windows 10X seem awful

modern windows RT

everything locked down

[true cradle]

yo

guy

s

problem

origin not loading

been like this for 10 mins

i logged in, but i cant launch anything cuz when the launcher opens, its keeps loading and nothing shows up

im stuck on the launcher with nothing loading basically

help

[prime jasper]

Reboot, try again

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHJchBcDOs

[latent light]

Not so sure about those $20 cheap brand SSDs in the $600 build, I'd rather take slower speeds from a HDD than having headaches from an unreliable SSD. I'd take that $70 storage budget and get a 500GB SSD from a more reliable brand and add a 1-2TB HDD later down the line.

[wraith knoll]

Guys, if my headset (corsair void) has spatial sound, do you disable spatial sound in bf V? Or disable it for the headset or keep it in game? Or enable both?

[modern prawn]

Enable

[prime jasper]

Yo guys my cpu usage is 30 percent wtf do I do

[supple bane]

Eh?

What cpu Is it?

[west willow]

30% doesn't sound bad at all, depends on the game and CPU though

[prime jasper]

Cpu is an i3 4150 -_-

[west willow]

Are you sure you don't you mean 30% GPU usage? Don't really see 30% CPU usage causing much problems.

[supple bane]

I will assume you mean at desktop/idle

30% for that cpu on the desktop sounds about right

[latent light]

https://www.gamebyte.com/microsoft-has-revealed-full-xbox-series-x-specs/?utm_source=desktop_notification&utm_medium=Notification&utm_campaign=OneSignal

Full specs revealed

8 cores and 16 threads with 3.8 GHz boost clock

52 compute unit RDNA2 GPU

Gonna be way faster than a RX 5700XT

[west willow]

I guess it won't sell for cheap

[latent light]

It will be $500

[west willow]

No way

[elder bane]

Xbox masterrace baby

[latent light]

Consoles aren't sold for profit, games and accessories are

[elder bane]

A few days later we got PlayStation masterrace

Grim you forgot that stupid paywall for online?

[west willow]

So they'll make a huge loss on consoles and make up for it with their stores an paying to play online,...

[elder bane]

Yup

Your paying for stupid subscription

To be honest I don't care because I can use the trail to work around with this stupid online fee

[west willow]

Thought those leaks were more expensive versions ( like a one x vs one) and a cheaper one was coming. Guess not

[prime jasper]

What is the difference between chaingun and minigun?Why can minigun be called chaingun?

in what?

[storm osprey]

this doesnt particularly sound like a tech chat

[supple bane]

thats erm

random

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcY4nRHapmE

appears to have a 120mm fan that is about 40mm thick, typical 120mm fans in PCs are only 25mm thick

copper vapor chamber contact plate with a massive aluminum fin stack

I'm surprised Microsoft is showing the full interior of the console 8 months before expected launch date lmao

[west willow]

@prime jasper A chaingun typically has only one rotating barrel with an autoloader . A minigun has multiple barrels. Don't know why you're asking, but here's your answer.

[latent light]

game devs choose whether to turn on/off SMT for the CPU
with SMT - 8 cores/16 threads 3.6 GHz
without SMT - 8 cores/8 threads 3.8 GHz

so the 56 Compute Unit leak for the GPU from a couple months back was somewhat correct, although 4 of them are disabled

[prime jasper]

4 disabled...I wonder why

[violet plank]

why would they even mention that ?

[quick locust]

its a custom 130mm fan

[latent light]

130mm wtf

[whole phoenix]

Howdy folks, sorry if the question has been asked before
got an issue when launching the game (Origin), game crashes on the loading screen

any idea of what is it happening ?

[supple bane]

repair game files

you running any overclocks on your pc ?

[whole phoenix]

idk what overclock is

[supple bane]

ok dw about it

just repair game files

[whole phoenix]

alright gonna try, cheers mate

[brazen oracle]

212 evo black on a 3900x or naw?

[prime jasper]

not really gonna be any better than the stock fan

[brazen oracle]

ik tht much is false lol

[prime jasper]

if youre gonna go with aftermarket might as well get a 6 heat pipe so you have the headroom for PBO

[latent light]

212 EVO will get slightly better temperatures compared to the stock cooler, biggest difference is a drop in noise level

[storm osprey]

depends on goals

[latent light]

Scythe Mugen 5 is the most cost effective cooler on the market imo

another one would be the Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140

and Thermalright Macho

got a friend with the Thermalright Macho, keeps his 3700X under 80C on stress test and is really quiet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GSoaRsuke4

[coarse nimbus]

130mm fan? because an already easily mass produced 120mm would make too much sense 😤

and yeah not selling the console for profit...my coworkers son just had to buy another xbox controller because the one that was bought last year i think was already crapping out on one of the analog sticks lol, drifting already...good thing theyre so cheap

[latent light]

people tend to put too much force on analog sticks

[coarse nimbus]

perhaps but, how cheap are they making these things? thats going to be one of the most, probably is? used portions of the controller lol

and i doubt theyre super easy for an average consumer to change out internally if you even can

[latent light]

https://press-start.com.au/news/xbox/2020/03/17/microsoft-has-put-the-xbox-series-x-next-to-a-fridge-because-its-that-damn-chonky/

microsoft has humor

[storm osprey]

My first Xbox one controller just broke. I had it for maybe 5 years. Put probably over 1k hours on it.

[untold tiger]

New XBOX's GPU isn't faster than an RX5700XT

The console as a whole is, not the GPU on its own

Pair a 5700XT with say an i7/R7 and fast RAM, and you've still got a faster system capable of better performance.

I can almost guarantee it'll be $600, not $500. Microsoft is less naive in 2020 and knows the vast majority of PC gamers aren't going to buy the console, plus they got killed last generation, even after the X released. They're not going to take a loss on this machine, especially since it has no true exclusive content being that all releases are coming to Windows.

[opaque saddle]

I guess when the slim version of the next gen consoles comes up means it became cheaper

[untold tiger]

As originally rumored, both PS5 and XBX are going to launch with two models within a year of release or so.

[opaque saddle]

Will still be too expensive

[untold tiger]

The biggest reason Sony hasn't revealed any details has likely more to do with the fact that they still have two AAA exclusives set to be released on PS4. PS4 is kicking ass still, so they don't want to hurt the hype on TLoU2 and Ghost of Tsushima.

It was rumored that a PS5 ported demo of Ghosts was shown to some developers however, so that's likely to be cross platform. I expect the PS5 reveal to be right before or after that game launches in June.

I mean why would they reveal everything now, with the possibility of people holding off if they know those games will be on PS5?

Sony isn't going to shoot themselves in the foot, and probability of X series being slightly more powerful doesn't really hurt their sales proposition, especially looking back, and considering that Sony still plans to push exclusive content. The original XBOX and GameCube were more powerful, considerably even to PS2 - PS2 murdered them in sales.

[latent light]

@untold tiger the APU die size is only 360.45 mm², considering it's on the enhanced 7nm+ node, it only costs ~$100 to produce the chip

that's the 2nd most expensive component of the new Xbox, behind the 16GB of GDDR6 memory

the manufacturing cost is somewhere between $400-500 and we know Microsoft will sell a console at a loss

the 2001 Xbox was sold at a $72 dollar loss, adjust for inflation and that would be $106 today

[untold tiger]

They may opt for less of a loss, however. I'm not expecting a $500 console from them.

Also, raw floating point performance isn't an accurate representation of the system's potential, I mean look at the Vega 64's real world performance. Also consider that the 12TFlops pertains to the total system horsepower, not the GPU. People who think this will outperform say a 2070 or 2080 are extremely wrong. More powerful GPUs require more powerful CPUs and faster RAM due to bottlenecking. The X Series' GPU is probably closer to 9TFlops on its own.

[latent light]

floating point performance is really just number crunching

it has 52 compute units on RDNA2 architecture, Digital Foundry already stated it performs better than a RX 5700XT

RX 5700XT is only 40 compute units and is on RDNA1

[elder bane]

PS5 will be RDNA 2 as AMD revealed

Not sure about its processor

[latent light]

it's also an 8-core Zen2 CPU

[untold tiger]

I had bet that both consoles would be nearly identical, mostly because AMD won't want to manufacture vastly different chips.

But yeah, the console will outperform the potential of a 5700XT alone, but that's the full console. The 5700XT's GPU on its own is still faster due to drastically higher clock speeds.

[latent light]

Xbox SX GPU is locked at 1825 MHz

[untold tiger]

But if I pair an OCed 5700XT with say an OCed Ryzen 7 gen2 or newer, and 3200 RAM, I'm beating the floating point of the XBX with ease.

[elder bane]

Remember what the devs can do with PS4 1.84 Tflops GPU

And that stupid 1.6 GHz Jaguar CPU

[untold tiger]

I push over 2Ghz on a 1660 Ti right now without screwing with voltages or water cooling.

[elder bane]

Ghost of Tsushima is a blessing godlike visuals

And its a PS4 game

With the new hardware, devs will have the opportunity to push this hardware to the limit

[untold tiger]

SP said the leaves and foliage operate on a procedural algorithm, which eliminates the load to an extreme extent. Plus on Pro, it runs checkerboard 1800p

[latent light]

RDNA2 has 50% more performance-per-watt than RDNA1 when compared at same clocks and compute units

[untold tiger]

Oh I know Navi2 is going to be sweet.

[elder bane]

If you didn't zoom it out

It still looks good

[untold tiger]

They'll finally come within striking distance of Nvidia just in time for the 30 series to destroy them all over

[latent light]

Ampere isn't going to be over 40% faster than Turing

can take that to the bank

[untold tiger]

Nvidia's new mobile chips are striking, so I'm waiting for Nintendo to announce an updated Switch

[elder bane]

Switch is so god damn underpowered

And lackluster of new games

[untold tiger]

Turing is already superior to RDNA gen 1, period.

[elder bane]

I don't think 300 dollars justify the quality we got

[latent light]

actually Turing performance-per-watt is similar to RDNA1

[untold tiger]

I think Nintendo was just trying to make back the loss from Wii U

[elder bane]

Nitendo alao sells games at full price

[untold tiger]

Their optimization and driver support is booty-cheeks, though

I love Ryzen, but AMD's GPUs are just inferior

[elder bane]

If another brand join the handheld war

For now

[untold tiger]

Forever

They're not catching up.

[elder bane]

CPU and GPU department of AMD are not doing the same thing

[untold tiger]

Nvidia rode its current architecture for how long? AMD dropped 3 gens within that span

[elder bane]

NVIDIA is ways competent than Intel

[latent light]

Radeon's supposed "Nvidia killer" will have 80 compute units on RDNA2, that has potential for more than double of 5700XT performance

5700XT is only 34% behind the 2080Ti in performance

[elder bane]

Please don't use that stupid HBM2 memory

[untold tiger]

I could bet the 3080 Ti or new Titan will be considerably better

Efficiency matters too. AMD is killing it with Ryzen, but man can Radeon not figure out heat and power usage for the life of them

I'm still running a gen1 Ryzen 7 1700, and it's a 65w CPU

Runs cool AF

[elder bane]

AMD gpu is kinda lackluster

[untold tiger]

Meanwhile the 5700XT is basically a heater that sounds like a jet engine and sucks the money out of one's power bill

[elder bane]

A proper CUDA core alternative

And a proper OpenGL supports

[latent light]

Radeon power usage is equal if not better than Nvidia right now, a factory OC RX 5700XT peak wattage is ~242 watts whereas a founders edition 2070 Super goes up to ~260 watts

[elder bane]

Yup

[untold tiger]

I overclocked by 1660 Ti as I said before to 2Ghz without screwing with voltages, and it's still very efficient and quiet

[elder bane]

While performing superiorly

[untold tiger]

The 2070 Super is faster than the 5700XT

[latent light]

only 8% faster

[elder bane]

100 dollars premium

[untold tiger]

Their drivers must be gapping that to almost 15% alone, then

[elder bane]

AMD drivers tend to increase performance

[latent light]

8% difference is based on a 44 game average

or was it 54 games

don't remember

difference is even smaller at higher resolutions too

[elder bane]

A 2070S is 580 euros at my country

While a 5700XT is 410 euros

[latent light]

jesus

[elder bane]

Nvidia never fix the price

You thinks that shocking?

1080ti Windforce is about 810 euros

[latent light]

yeah because 1080Ti left production 2 years ago lmao

[untold tiger]

Nvidia never adjusts their prices

[elder bane]

A founder 2080ti is wooping 900 euros

[untold tiger]

Because they basically don't feel the need to

[latent light]

they did drop the price of the 2060

$50 drop

[untold tiger]

2060 is almost worthless

[elder bane]

Yea kinda of weird that 2060 is at the same price as5600XT

280 euros

[untold tiger]

That's why I opted 1660 Ti

Performance difference is basically non-existent

[latent light]

1660Ti is now worthless because of the 1660 Super

[untold tiger]

Like there's a $60 price gap

Ti is still faster than the Super regardless

But I bought mine before it was a thing

[latent light]

1660 Super is ~3% slower than 1660Ti and costs $50 less lmao

[elder bane]

Because of those I picked Vega 64 for 180 euros brand new

[latent light]

Vega 64 is fun to oc

[elder bane]

Its hot and eat power like hotdogs

[untold tiger]

That HBM2 VRAM has some strange properties

[opaque saddle]

Our 5700xt was slightly cheaper than 2070s. It was around 70 AUD cheaper tho

[elder bane]

HBM2 memory is kinda worthless

[untold tiger]

It's designed more so as a hybrid card for professional use

[opaque saddle]

Didn’t even think of a blower card

[untold tiger]

like a budget Titan

HBM2 is very useful for editing and animation, CAD, exc

[latent light]

I wouldn't get a 5700XT that costs over $10 more than MSRP tbh

Gigabyte sells the 3 fan model for reference MSRP

[opaque saddle]

The most expensive 5700xt was around 700 bucks

Which’s an ASUS not blower version

[untold tiger]

There's a super nice Sapphire Pulse V56 that runs really cool thanks to a smart cooler design

[latent light]

ASUS is trash

[opaque saddle]

I decided to get 2070s coz it works out better

Nah I won’t pick asus unless it’s the only option there available

[untold tiger]

I like Zotac

Zotac & Sapphire

[opaque saddle]

I got a laptop that failed 3 times in 1.5 years

[untold tiger]

ASUS makes the best monitors, to be fair

Gaming laptops are trash, period

[latent light]

I thought BenQ makes the best monitors

[untold tiger]

No, BenQ just charges more

[elder bane]

Zotac warrenty sucks

[opaque saddle]

They’re the manufactures based in Hong Kong

Asus monitors are OEM tho

[elder bane]

I have a 760 Zotac that broken down only after 3 months

[untold tiger]

They're very comparable, but ASUS has better technology attached

[elder bane]

They refuse to fix it

[latent light]

Zotac was trash until the GTX 1000 series

[untold tiger]

I've never had any issues with Zotac, personally

[opaque saddle]

Don’t they have 5 years warranty?

[elder bane]

5 years of guarantee

[untold tiger]

Almost everyone will have a bad experience with any given brand

[elder bane]

Not even warrenty

[opaque saddle]

It has 5 years warranty as far as I know

[untold tiger]

Mine does

[opaque saddle]

palit

[elder bane]

Evga

Evga never fails me

[opaque saddle]

I reckon EVGA is overrated

[elder bane]

And Sapphire

[untold tiger]

I like Zotac's smaller form factor cards, mostly

[opaque saddle]

The only few that makes smaller cards

[untold tiger]

EVGA's small cards are THICC

[opaque saddle]

I remember the days the cards with single fan

[untold tiger]

I have a GTX 1660 Ti AMP

A bit higher end

[opaque saddle]

The worse card is blower. Apart from saying doing water cooling

[untold tiger]

Yeah, fuck Blowers

[opaque saddle]

More expensive than 3rd part cooler why

[elder bane]

I have Vega 64 blower fa

[latent light]

my Gigabyte RX 580 has 2 fans and is louder than a blower

[untold tiger]

Fuck isn't censored but r e t a r d e d is?

[elder bane]

Its quiet but hot

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ai_zcTXN6s

this is how loud

worse than a blower lmao

[elder bane]

Jet engin

[untold tiger]

Throw a hybrid kit on that mofo

[elder bane]

Base PS4 will bow to it

[latent light]

supposedly Gigabyte puts their worst fans on AMD cards

[untold tiger]

Sapphire or PowerColor, or nothing

If you go AMD

[elder bane]

Sapphire baby

[latent light]

Sapphire fans are so awesome, they clip on

no screws or anything

[untold tiger]

Sapphire is basically AMD's flagship OEM

[elder bane]

I just saw someone selling 1600AF for 70 euros

[opaque saddle]

Sapphire was great back in 5000 gen

[elder bane]

Nah

[untold tiger]

They're still great

[elder bane]

HIS HD 4670

Legendary card

[untold tiger]

I had an R9 380

[latent light]

Sapphire is the best AIB partner period, if they did Nvidia GPUs that would be a Godsend

[elder bane]

Most likely won't

[untold tiger]

EVGA and Zotac are Nvidia's only exclusive OEMs, I believe

[elder bane]

Zotac succcc

[untold tiger]

Sapphire, XFX, and PowerColor are all AMD exc

[latent light]

remember when XFX was Nvidia exclusive

[untold tiger]

Back in my day

[elder bane]

XFX GTX 480

[untold tiger]

I had an XFX 7900

Back in the olden days

[elder bane]

XFX GTS 450

[untold tiger]

Played SimCity 4 and Flight Sim

When I was a young lad

I'll never forgive EA for running that franchise into the ground

[elder bane]

I missed C&C

[untold tiger]

Even the Maxis heads' quite the studio and said "EA did it"

[latent light]

remember the Radeon HD 4870

first GDDR5 gpu

2009

[untold tiger]

EA forced Maxis to make a casual always online game

[elder bane]

Red Alert 2

Dead Space 1

[untold tiger]

Just like how they're forcing DICE to make Battlefield hella casual

[elder bane]

Rip Vicesral

[untold tiger]

and Pandemic

And Danger Close

and Maxis

[elder bane]

And Westwood

[untold tiger]

And Red Barn

List goes on, really

[elder bane]

Oh my favorite studio s

I used to lovr RTS

Now we got shitty RTS online games like LOL

[untold tiger]

I love how Braddock is always "doing stuff", the the stuff he's doing is never his job

Guy gets paid to mute constructive criticism and eventually drop info that he never elaborates on

He's a spokesman, not a community manager

[elder bane]

Shhh

[latent light]

first RTS game I ever played, was on gamecube

[elder bane]

Hes monitoring you

[untold tiger]

Fuck him

I don't think a worse CM exists, besides whoever is running Fallout 76

[elder bane]

Try to ping him once :yikes-1:

[untold tiger]

I did it on an alt

Was a good time

[elder bane]

Did you get banned

[untold tiger]

Of course

I wasn't even an asshole, I just reported a bug

THE BUG IS STILL IN THE GAME

16 months

[elder bane]

You got a server to communicate

But you just stand there monitoring players

And not allow them to communicate with CM

[untold tiger]

We've been spamming this bug in all of the appropriate channels

Nothing, ever

Hence: it persists since launch

[elder bane]

What is that bugu?

[untold tiger]

DICE along with Bethesda fell from grace with recent incompetence

It's the downed respawn glitch. You remain stuck in a downed state.

Only fix is to get a squad wipe.

Leaving the squad won't do it.

[elder bane]

Oh boi

[untold tiger]

Only a squad wipe.

[elder bane]

Lenny face is not allowed

Hmm weird

I played for 500 hours

Never get that bug

[untold tiger]

In 215 hours I've had it a dozen times

"excuse me, fellow squadmates; can we please get squad wiped so I don't have to quit and give up this hard earned 50-10"

Which will anger me to the point of not playing again for a few days

[lofty light]

Maybe tech isn't the best channel for this

[latent light]