technology

[prime jasper]

Stop trying to argue your cpu is good for this game

It isnt

Its minimum spec

[marsh birch]

No it isn't. Other people don't have the issue with the same cpu. If anything its bad optimization.

[supple bane]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[prime jasper]

Lmao god help us all....whatever dude

[marsh birch]

Okay

Apart from the cpu

what else could it be

[supple bane]

nothing

its the cpu

[prime jasper]

Its a cpu bottleneck

End of story

[west willow]

an i5 7600k isn't much better than a i5 6600k

[marsh birch]

Hm

[prime jasper]

Your shit resolution makes the cpu even more choked up

[supple bane]

its not its single core performance that holds it back, its the fact that it only has 4 cores

[west willow]

True, 4C/8T is kind of the minimum for the newest games

[marsh birch]

Interesting. I dont think it being considered as "the most graphically intensive" is a good enough reason. Sounds like an excuse tbh.

I mean

you could be right

but bf1 is fine for example

[west willow]

It will run on quad cores, but with stuttering and framedrops

[supple bane]

yes that game isnt as cpu intensive

bfv is a whole new level compared to bf1 for the system resources it requires

[marsh birch]

And why does it require that much

[supple bane]

idk, ask dice

[prime jasper]

We arent devs, we cant answer that

[storm osprey]

yea i should be upgrading my pc soon so i can make my front room pc not have an i5 4570

[marsh birch]

Exactly

Thats why im saying

Its an excuse for the devs tbh

[storm osprey]

4c4t is... not great

tbf when you look at other games, bfv is pretty impressive for the performance it gets

[marsh birch]

Ehh

Many will debate that

[storm osprey]

only way to knock bfv is to compare it to other bf titles

[marsh birch]

See people with i7s have issues too

[supple bane]

no. no one debates that lol

[marsh birch]

Bs excuse still

[west willow]

bfv also is pretty well optimised GPU wise, it's just that it's really CPU intensive

[storm osprey]

idk any other games with 64 players on massive destructible maps with vehicles and top of the line graphics/sound

[supple bane]

4c4t is not enough for 2020

i have a 6c12t cpu and it struggles some times

[storm osprey]

im not commenting on bfv running on certain hardware or not

just saying bfv is really impressive for what it does with the performance it gets

you get pubg that looks like shit and bfv gets more fps

[west willow]

pubg isn't the best example

[storm osprey]

what is the best example vs bfv?

cod?

[marsh birch]

But the thing is

[west willow]

It just has shit optimization (pubg)

[storm osprey]

ground wars was shit when i tried it

[marsh birch]

These guys are saying i need an i7 or a better cpu

But then explain how other people, even with high end cpus and not "ShIt" ones have the same issue?

[thick copper]

@marsh birch

i have the same

[storm osprey]

im using a 4790 and i do just fine..

[thick copper]

nothing you can do

[marsh birch]

@thick copper whats ur specs?

[storm osprey]

you can get a 3600, which is 175 bucks and be in a better spot

[thick copper]

upgraded from gtx 970 to gtx 1660 super and i literally cant play the game rn

[prime jasper]

It will help to not play at a potato resolution

[thick copper]

@marsh birch i5 6600 gtx 1660 super

[storm osprey]

idk where this "need i7" is coming from

[marsh birch]

idk either

@thick copper Weird.. do u just not play it then?

[thick copper]

yup

[prime jasper]

A 6600 is below minimum spec

[marsh birch]

Damn

No it isnt ffs

Its the minimun

[storm osprey]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[thick copper]

i played at 90 fps with my gtx 970 with the i5 6600

[storm osprey]

min says 6600k

[thick copper]

now i cant even hit 80

[marsh birch]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

so technically its under

[marsh birch]

Fucking weird

And shitty optimisation

[supple bane]

you have no idea do you

your not taking into account how damn realistic this game looks

[west willow]

but you can't avoid framedrops on a 4C4T, a lot of games will simply max it out

[supple bane]

and how good the physics are

[marsh birch]

Not buying it.

[supple bane]

well i dont know what to say dude

[storm osprey]

you are not reasonable then

[marsh birch]

Yes I cant avoid it

But this is a ridiculous impact and isnt justified enough

Whatever

[supple bane]

there is 4 people here all saying the same thing, and your just being ignorant to all of them

[marsh birch]

Shame

[prime jasper]

Sad!

[marsh birch]

Guess Ill go back to bf4 or bf1 til they fix this shit

[storm osprey]

lol do it

[supple bane]

welp. you spent 300 bucks on a 4c cpu, what can we say

[storm osprey]

what is your goal here? to reddit shit talk?

[supple bane]

when you get get a 6c for 100

[prime jasper]

Lmao basically

[storm osprey]

to try to "one up" dice when you bought their product?

[thick copper]

well the thing that i dont understand is that i was playing with my gtx 970 i5 6600 at low 70 fps capped and everything was fine
after upgrading gpu it got worse, cant handle stable 70 fps, drops to 50

with the same settings at low

[marsh birch]

Mhm

That makes no sense

[thick copper]

only thing i can do is but back old gpu and enjoy playing

[storm osprey]

shit 1600 af is 85 bucks

[thick copper]

or upgrading my cpu

which i cant

bcos my mobo support cpus only to 7 gen

or even 6

[marsh birch]

And no im not a reddit shit talker. Throwing around the UpGrAdE yOuR sPeCs all-in-one solution isnt always justified

[thick copper]

thats why i am changing my mobo and cpu

[prime jasper]

Well youre playing on an old ass tv dude

[marsh birch]

@thick copper messed up

[west willow]

and a new mobo is basically rebuilding your whole PC

[storm osprey]

you just seem like you have a hate boner for dice

[thick copper]

i5 6600 to Ryzen 5 3600 and z170a to b450

[supple bane]

we arent telling you to upgrade, id bet if you played at 1080p your fps would go up

[marsh birch]

Literally dont

I love bf and dice

[thick copper]

the only think i can think of

[marsh birch]

Not rn tho

Ill try that then

[supple bane]

yes, try that

[latent light]

any Intel i5 made before the i5-8400 will get stutter in BFV due to only having 4 cores and 4 threads, this applies to the i5-7600k, 6600k, 4690K and so on

[supple bane]

theres the 5th man

still wanna argue ?

[thick copper]

ye sux that it didnt occur with my gtx 970 at low

[west willow]

True, you should try 1080p at least, the bottleneck is still there, just less noticable

[marsh birch]

Who knows. I'll be back.

[latent light]

BFV can utilize 8 cores if it wants to

[prime jasper]

@thick copper ironically your new gpu is outrunning your cpu now. Try upping the gfx settings and/or rez

[latent light]

but 6 cores or 8 threads is needed for a smoother experience

[thick copper]

@prime jasper wym gfx

[prime jasper]

The settings

[thick copper]

oh

[prime jasper]

From low to med or high

[thick copper]

i play at ultra

to get

more stable

with fps capped to 60

1080p

cant go higher than my monitor

rez

so that sux

[prime jasper]

You can with dlss

Which is dx12 only

[thick copper]

whats dlss

[latent light]

sucks that Nvidia's features require DX12

[marsh birch]

Welp I cant seem to find a 1080p option

[thick copper]

what is dlss? what it does

also @latent light i overclocked the i5 6600

[marsh birch]

DX 12 makes performance shit

[thick copper]

to 4,45ghz

[supple bane]

well you didnt

i can confirm that

[prime jasper]

@thick copper make sure you upgrade the drivers first too. Dlss is under the dx12 menu in game

[latent light]

You have a i5-7600K with a GTX 1080Ti, that is a pretty big CPU bottleneck, even if you were playing at 1440p

[marsh birch]

Did that help h0tkins?

[storm osprey]

dx12 gives me way more fps

[thick copper]

@marsh birch a lot

[marsh birch]

Ok

[thick copper]

cpu is at 80-100% usage

mostly

[supple bane]

inb4 the 6600 is a locked cpu

[thick copper]

before it was 100%

all the time

[latent light]

is it a 6600 or 6600K

[thick copper]

@supple bane z170 mobo

i5 6600

[west willow]

Dx 12 gives me framedrops sometimes, DX11 runs better for some reason for me (R5 3600, RX5700XT)

[thick copper]

bclk

[supple bane]

doesnt matter, its a locked cpu heheh

[thick copper]

if you say so

[supple bane]

i dont know what overclocking youve been doing ma man

[storm osprey]

yea i get drops on dx12, but its rare, quick and worth the +30 fps i get using it

[thick copper]

🤷‍♂️

[storm osprey]

non K intel cpus dont OC

[thick copper]

of the bclk

yes they does

lel

[storm osprey]

4790 is locked, 4790k is unlocked

[supple bane]

only cpu's with a k or an x can overclock @thick copper

[thick copper]

okay okay

[latent light]

The i5 6600 has a locked multiplier, but because of the way Skylake was engineered, you can increase the base clock, or BCLK, to get a pretty wicked OC. Your OC potential is huge, the 6600 should be able to push 4.3-4.5GHz before you start becoming unstable. @thick copper @supple bane

[thick copper]

how can i send here the screenshot?

to proof you that

@supple bane

[supple bane]

well this is news to me

i admit, im sorry

ive never heard of this

[marsh birch]

Thats weird

[thick copper]

https://imgur.com/qiOPWRC

[marsh birch]

The max option i see for res is 1360

x768

[thick copper]

@supple bane

[latent light]

btw, the lower resolution you play at, the more your CPU bottlenecks

[prime jasper]

Yup

[marsh birch]

Okay

[thick copper]

4,45ghz is the max stable oc

for my i5 6600

[supple bane]

you need to enable it in the nvidia control panel @marsh birch

[storm osprey]

apparently OC base or BCLK is known to be unstable?

[supple bane]

i forgot what the setting is called

[marsh birch]

Hmm ok

[latent light]

BCLK is pretty unstable

[marsh birch]

Lets see

[thick copper]

and by that you mean? @latent light

its pretty stable imo

[prime jasper]

@thick copper have you looked into getting a used 7700k? If you cant afford a new mobo that might be worth looking into

[thick copper]

@prime jasper dont like to buy used pc parts

especially gpus and cpus

[prime jasper]

30 day refund policy on ebay

[thick copper]

ebay not in my country unfortunately

[prime jasper]

Oof

[marsh birch]

Oh and one more thing, my tv has said that it goes up to 1080ix1920, not good but much better than 1360x768. Anyway, when connected to my pc it defaults to 1360x768. Any thoughts on why maybe?

[thick copper]

do you have gpu drivers

[marsh birch]

Yeah i mean, just today i updated in geforce experience

[supple bane]

@marsh birch its called DSR factors

[marsh birch]

in the drivers section

?

[thick copper]

whats this

[west willow]

I don't think he could've launched bfv with the basic display drivers from windows

[supple bane]

if you enable all of those, in game you will be able to select things that are pretty close to higher resolutions

[marsh birch]

For the game or for the res of the whole tv?

[supple bane]

just for the game

[marsh birch]

Alright

Ill try

[storm osprey]

you have to set the resolution in windows and nvidias panel

[marsh birch]

how bout for the tv itself?

Ive always thought why it goes so low

[supple bane]

you cant change that

[marsh birch]

Rip

How come the tv said its 1080i tho?

[prime jasper]

If you just installed the drivers you need to reboot after

[thick copper]

@prime jasper

i cant enable dlss

[storm osprey]

if tv is 1080i it will do it

[thick copper]

it says only rtx

card

[marsh birch]

Either way ill try the thing u recommended

[prime jasper]

@thick copper my bad, you can still play on dx12 and see what happens though

[thick copper]

i am allways playing at dx12

🤔

[prime jasper]

Oh, well you can try dx11 then lol

Might as well

[thick copper]

what about future frame

on or off

[prime jasper]

You can try, doesnt hurt

[marsh birch]

https://imgur.com/a/FyJchLh

I see this btw

The default is 1360x768

[prime jasper]

Yeah so select 1080

[latent light]

for the price of a used i7-7700K, you can get a new Ryzen 5 1600AF and B450 motherboard lmao

[marsh birch]

Highest one?

[west willow]

It think turning future frame rendering off, might help the CPU, not sure though

[prime jasper]

Yes

[thick copper]

yea thats why i am buying the ryzen 5 3600 and b450

ill sell this cpu and mobo

[prime jasper]

@latent light it would cost even less to take shears to that mullet

[marsh birch]

Ahh but that makes the hz go down to 30 :( maybe i see now why it defaulted to that particular res

[prime jasper]

Try 1080p

[thick copper]

@marsh birch do you play on ultra?

[latent light]

get a MSI B450 MAX motherboard, they are guaranteed to work with Ryzen 3000 and also have a larger BIOS chip for better support in the future

[marsh birch]

Yes I do

It only goes to 1080i not p

[prime jasper]

Boo

[marsh birch]

yep

sucks

[prime jasper]

Well play with the resolutins

See whats 60

[thick copper]

@latent light MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC isnt good?

i wanted to buy this one

[latent light]

it may not have the BIOS flashed for Ryzen 3000

[marsh birch]

The other option thats 60 is 720p, 1280 x 728. Which is lower than what I got now

[latent light]

which would mean you'd have to wait 1 week for AMD to ship you a compatible CPU to update the BIOS yourself

[prime jasper]

Fuck that tv sucks lol

[west willow]

It needs to be Zen 2 compatible, some might not have an updated BIOS

[marsh birch]

I'll just do the dsr factor

it does

[storm osprey]

isnt tomahawk max the go to right now?

comes biosed flashed for sure and one of the more compatible ram mbs out there

[latent light]

Tomahawk MAX is a bit expensive for B450, you can get another MAX board for $30 less

[marsh birch]

@supple bane All of them enabled?

[thick copper]

@latent light i want to give the pc to computer service and they will do it

[latent light]

but if you're already thinking about getting the Pro Carbon, the Tomahawk MAX is cheaper than that one

[thick copper]

i think they do have other cpus

[storm osprey]

isnt tomahawk max normally 110?

[latent light]

yeah

[storm osprey]

unless youre going micro i doubt youll get much cheaper

[west willow]

Something like that, I think I payed 100eur for mine @storm osprey

[latent light]

@thick copper Ryzen 5 3600 and B450 Tomahawk MAX are a great combo

[thick copper]

110€

[marsh birch]

Nop.. still not able to try it at 1080p

[latent light]

problem with B450/X470 motherboards without 'MAX' is they have a smaller BIOS chip which means updating them to Ryzen 3000 compatibility means you lose some BIOS features

[thick copper]

thought carbon is better @latent light

[marsh birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0qu75RPlFg

@prime jasper What do u think if I try this?

[latent light]

Left is a Ryzen 3000 B450 board updated to Ryzen 3000, it lost some BIOS features and the nice appearances, right one is a MAX board

[prime jasper]

Tldw, but config tweaks wont fix your reZ

[latent light]

if you update the Pro Carbon to Ryzen 3000 BIOS, you get the left BIOS

[thick copper]

@marsh birch if you lower your in game setting you put more work into your cpu

that means even more bottleneck

well that sux

i want the right one

[marsh birch]

Okay..

[latent light]

yeah, lower resolution and graphics settings means the GPU is working less and the CPU is working more

[marsh birch]

But my graphics are ulta

[thick copper]

perfect situation is if cpu works less and gpu is stressed

[marsh birch]

ultra

I see

[thick copper]

the only way imo is rez

or cpu upgrade

[latent light]

i5-7600K won't ever experience smooth gameplay in BFV, especially on large maps with 64 players

you'll always get some stutter

[marsh birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684308912417275914/684490350253047857/Battlefield_V_Screenshot_2020.03.03_-_22.57.40.36.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684308912417275914/684490350999371836/Battlefield_V_Screenshot_2020.03.03_-_22.57.36.56.png

[thick copper]

@latent light i played normally without stutters on my gtx 970

[storm osprey]

tf you got such high settings

[thick copper]

so the cpu wasnt the problem

[marsh birch]

It fluctuates between 70-80 and then randomly dips to 50s

@storm osprey yes

[thick copper]

same with me

try enable dx12

[marsh birch]

Doesnt that make it worse?

[storm osprey]

playing any mp game with ultra settings is asking to be put at a disadvantage

[thick copper]

and lock fps to 60

[marsh birch]

Not really. BF4 and 1 work beautifully.

[thick copper]

it works for me for the time being

[storm osprey]

its not ONLY about fps, but low settings are better for visibility too

[marsh birch]

Fps goes even lower if its locked at 60

[thick copper]

damn

[storm osprey]

not to mention latency

[marsh birch]

Yeah

[west willow]

The only thing left to try is upscaling the resolution in game with the scaler

[thick copper]

i got okay bcus of my cpu overclock

[marsh birch]

if i do that

[west willow]

If you can't do it any other way

[marsh birch]

everything looks beyond bad lol

@thick copper Did u oc ur cpu?

Maybe i should oc mine

[thick copper]

ye

[marsh birch]

not sure if it will make ad ifference tho

[thick copper]

whats your mobo and cpu

[marsh birch]

andi dont have experience with ocing

asus z720e

i5 7600k

[thick copper]

you have unlocked cpu?

[marsh birch]

yes

[thick copper]

and you didnt oc it?

[marsh birch]

I didnt want to until i felt like i had to

[thick copper]

well now its the time

xd

[marsh birch]

It was only a little more expensive when i saw it vs the none-k

So i got it

But I aint got watercooling or anything fancy lol

just evo 212x

[thick copper]

that might be a lifechange

no need for aio

[marsh birch]

currently @ 3.8ghz

[thick copper]

watercooling

i am doing okay with normal radiator

[west willow]

as long as it isn't the stock cooler some OC should be possible

[marsh birch]

its basically a slighter better evo 212

[thick copper]

cpu temps are 35C non oc'ed

unfortunately cant monitor now

[marsh birch]

why

[thick copper]

bcus it does not let me

[marsh birch]

??

[thick copper]

it says 100c

[marsh birch]

lol

[thick copper]

cuz i oced BCLK

[marsh birch]

whats bclk

[thick copper]

base

[latent light]

should be able to do at least 4.5 GHz with 7600K with that cooler

[west willow]

raising the base clock

[marsh birch]

hows it different from normal oc'ing?

[thick copper]

base clock * multiplier

[marsh birch]

@latent light For real?

[latent light]

yes

[thick copper]

i cant change the multiplier but i can base clock

[marsh birch]

ah ok

well.. i might just do it

but did it make that much of a difference in bfv?

[thick copper]

so 137 * 3.3 = 4,5~

instead of 100 * 4,5

[latent light]

@marsh birch try 4.5 GHz at 1.30v

[marsh birch]

alright

[thick copper]

grim what about mine

[marsh birch]

Thing is i've been planning to get a 2k monitor

[latent light]

don't use base clock overclocking, only do the multiplier

[marsh birch]

So maybe i dont need to?

[thick copper]

1.240v at 4,5ghz?

@latent light

[latent light]

can't be certain that's gonna be stable

[thick copper]

https://imgur.com/a/Wm4zpjG

but what you mean by stable?

shutting down?

stuttering?

[marsh birch]

ill ttyl. thanks for giving advice guys

[latent light]

don't go over 1.35v with 7600K, that's unsafe without watercooling

1.30v should be good

[marsh birch]

I'll be pussy to go to 3.9 ghz even cuz ive never done it

Lol

[thick copper]

@marsh birch i did the same lel

[latent light]

4.5 GHz should be doable on all 7600K

[thick copper]

slowly try going up

[marsh birch]

this is my cooler

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-air-coolers/hyper-212x/

Alright

[latent light]

I mean you should be able to do 4.5GHz with 1.30v right off the bat

[marsh birch]

i'll test a bit later on

[thick copper]

itll do fine imo

[marsh birch]

thanks

[thick copper]

@latent light

can you pls help m,e

https://imgur.com/1sCP1wu

how to see if its unstable?

[latent light]

you should download Cinebench R20 and do a run

do a few actually

[thick copper]

already did

[latent light]

the best stress test would be Prime95

[thick copper]

CORES=4
THREADS=4
MHZ=3320.000000
PROCESSOR=Intel Core i5-6600 CPU
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Professional Edition (build 18362)
CBCPU1=0.000000
CBCPUX=1251.618102
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=20.060
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark281795

i did another in cinebench r15

result is 690-710

@latent light

so how do i know if its stable?

[latent light]

btw, HWmonitor isn't as good as HWinfo64

HWmonitor can be inaccurate

[thick copper]

pls answer

how do i know if its stable or not

[latent light]

@thick copper Prime95 is the best utility to check for stable CPU

[west willow]

Crashing and bluescreening for my R5 3600, but don't know if that's always the case (when under heavy load)

[thick copper]

i dont get any crash or bluescreens

[west willow]

Like grim said, if it completes multiple stress tests without any issues it's most likely stable

[thick copper]

cant launch prime95

cinebench r20 will have to do

what about temps

i cant monitor them

how do i know if its not overheating

https://imgur.com/21ooOel

its reaching max 53C

[prime jasper]

Looks fine

[thick copper]

while cinebench r20

so what yo say

i can stay with bclk overclocked to 4,44ghz?

[latent light]

yeah

have you played BFV since overclock?

[thick copper]

yes

i oc'ed it 2 days ago

[molten coral]

This is a nice looking laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SfSUjxNHtE

Love the 16:10 screen

Hope they will do a 16:10 screen on the Dell XPS 15 as well

[coarse nimbus]

is prime really the best thing? i thought that was a more unrealistic "high stress" scenario or something to that effect

[thick copper]

dayumm

boii

its so sexy

love the screen look

k nevermind

just saw the price

[prime jasper]

They were never budget laptops lmao

[molten coral]

Think the cheapest one starts at 999

But then you are basically getting nothing

[prime jasper]

We get basically nothing out of your shitposting either

[molten coral]

Better then having the same talk about Hotkins PC for the last 2/3 days

[prime jasper]

Is its popular in europoorland to recycle decade old reddit memes for pfps?

[molten coral]

I mean it's better than being a dick on discord while talking with some lame quarantine pfp.

[prime jasper]

[molten coral]

[prime jasper]

At least my pfp will survive corona chan

Yours has one foot in the grave

[molten coral]

[prime jasper]

Better

[thick copper]

oi oi @molten coral

[prime jasper]

But you can get infected through your eyes

[thick copper]

we talked about my pc only yesterday

today was about errol's

and my cpu oc

thats it

was tryin to help out errol and then it got to my pc

not my fault

[prime jasper]

taking anything nacho says seriously at all

[molten coral]

But tbh, I've nothing against you but this chat is sometimes just a bit lame talking about the same thing every day

[prime jasper]

Nacho is the only mod who is either brave enough or brain damaged enough to get in here, so rest assured hotkins youre safe

[thick copper]

well

good to know he's a mod

[prime jasper]

He still hasn't banned us yet

I'm not sure why

[molten coral]

Can I ban myself? mhh

[thick copper]

pls do so

[prime jasper]

If you make me mod Ill do my best

If that doesnt work I'll just spam modmail with fake complaints about you

[molten coral]

Can't make complaints if you are blocked from modmail

[prime jasper]

Im calling the internet police

[thick copper]

wait thats illegal

[prime jasper]

Not anymore, its the wild west in here

[molten coral]

https://tenor.com/view/howdy-cowboy-clint-eastwood-west-old-west-gif-5543652

[thick copper]

Talking of wild west

My rig can't afford to pay red dead redemption 2 at 60 fps stable

Play

At medium

[prime jasper]

Rdr2 is brutally intensive

I hardly get 60 on high/ultra with an rtx 2080

Often drops to 45 but gsync keeps it smooth

[river wyvern]

RDR2 is next gen experience

At last gen

[marsh birch]

Hi guys

I'm thinking of bumping my resolution scale really high up to fix my stutter issues

It might help because it would alleviate pressure on the CPU

[latent light]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/fd19eu/when_the_whole_fam_gets_matching_outfits_new/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

These are so cool

[marsh birch]

@latent light Hey what do u think of this?

https://imgur.com/a/dylrAyo

And that guy has an i7

[latent light]

Likely not the issue

[marsh birch]

But I mean

I understand what you guys are saying

it makes sense

But then on the other hand you have guys with the same issue, playing in high resolutions with much better cpus

So it doesnt add up

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/164123/battlefield-5-100-cpu-usage-bad-fps-stability/p9

Pretty much a majority of the people here

[cosmic warren]

everytime i play bf4

punkbuster kicks me everyday )

after like 2 minutes of playing

i know i know im a hacker

[cosmic warren]

Fuck yeah

i fixed it

just re repair game

and reinstall punkbuster

stupid dice told me to go contact punkbuster support so stupid

[prime jasper]

I had that issue before and it was the gamespy replacement I was using to play BF2142 in 2019, punkbuster was not working

so maybe its some third party software on your PC

[marsh birch]

@latent light Maybe it could be something else?

[fair stratus]

hello

what is it ?

Fixed a crash that could occur when using the Russian language.

Fixed a crash that could occur if the player played the game for more than 5 hours in one go.

Will they finally fix crashes from the game to the desktop?

Patch comes out tomorrow

[errant cairn]

Nice

[analog torrent]

Who know how to fix unlock issue?

[prime jasper]

check the pins in #battlefield-legacy-titles for a possible fix @analog torrent

[analog torrent]

Useless,next round still unlocked

[analog torrent]

@prime jasperany other ways?

[prime jasper]

not that I know

[uneven pine]

anyone can help me in a bug?

with camera

@prime jasper

my camera with touchpad or mouse

goes anywhere randomly

i tried re plugging the mouse

and restarting the game

[molten bramble]

🤷‍♂️

Not sure what that means, what “camera” are you even referring to? And please don’t ping staff unless they’re in a conversation with you.

[uneven pine]

@molten bramble spinning camera

[molten bramble]

@uneven pine Don’t know what that is, don’t think I’ll be able to help.

[uneven pine]

common

i just installed bf 3

i can send ss or link of what i mean

@molten bramble

[mild bough]

Where is ZenWeasel?

Did he leave the server?

@supple bane do you know where he went?

[storm osprey]

i dont even see him in my chat logs

[molten coral]

Rip account

[mild bough]

man i miss him tho

what happend to him?

wow that made me sad

i liked that guy

[west willow]

@storm osprey Same, he completely disappeared

[storm osprey]

hopefully hes alright

[mild bough]

man

i'm worried now

[supple bane]

no

he has changed his name

its this now

[storm osprey]

case solved

[west willow]

That explains a lot

[storm osprey]

so my front room pc is gonna have a better gpu than my main gaming pc

and idk how i feel about that

[west willow]

Time to swap names?

[supple bane]

@storm osprey what you getting ?

and just put said better gpu in your main pc and your old main pc gpu in your front room one

[storm osprey]

5700

front room tv uses freesync, hence 5700

my main pc using gsync, and thats a 1080

[west willow]

They're really close performance wise

[storm osprey]

yea, 5700 is only like 3% better

its the principle of the matter though

[marsh birch]

Hello guys

I think I will try OCing to fix stutter problems in bfv

to 4.5ghz

Thoughts?

[storm osprey]

on your 4c4t cpu?

[marsh birch]

Yes

[storm osprey]

i mean... its gonna help but i really doubt its gonna be a solution

[violet plank]

it won't

even on a 4c4ht you will have micro stutters from time to tome

[storm osprey]

my 4c8t cpu gets stutter

6c6t minimum or bust basically

[violet plank]

that's the same

4c4ht 4 cores 4 hyper threads

[marsh birch]

Idk

Like

I believe you, and it makes sense

[storm osprey]

i didnt know hyperthread was equal to 25% of an actual thread

[marsh birch]

But I still cant deny the fact that its not entirely bad optimization

[storm osprey]

i thought it was 20% at best

[violet plank]

with a 7700k for expample on 4.8ghz you still get micro stutters,not much but they are there

[marsh birch]

Oy vey

[violet plank]

frostbite engine is wack

[marsh birch]

That.. shouldnt happen

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 3400G gets 50% better multicore performance than the 3200G, and they have the same core count, only difference is multithreading

[violet plank]

as nyph wrote,6 cores min for stutter free exp on bfv

[marsh birch]

hm

[latent light]

Ryzen appears to benefit more from multithreading than Intel

[violet plank]

simple bottleneck situation

[marsh birch]

Guess its my first

[violet plank]

when i played on a 7700k the cpu load was always around 95-100%,on a 3700x for example the load get's to 25% tops

[marsh birch]

Wow

thats insane

And

[violet plank]

it is

[marsh birch]

I still wonder why this happens

https://imgur.com/a/YJDktUT

[storm osprey]

AMD ftw

[marsh birch]

According to people on a huge thread

hol up

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/164123/battlefield-5-100-cpu-usage-bad-fps-stability/p5

[violet plank]

maybe an intel problem

[marsh birch]

😬

hmm

[violet plank]

max load on a 3700x

for example

[storm osprey]

(totally not for showing off stats)

[marsh birch]

sorry where do you see load

[violet plank]

that's some old pic lol

top left

overlay

from riva tuner

[latent light]

3700X will stay between 20-60% load in BFV

[violet plank]

never seen it go above 30

[marsh birch]

Lol im 100% with my cpu

ripperoni

[violet plank]

yeah 4c and bfv sucks

[marsh birch]

Just for fun tho

[violet plank]

specially on intel it seems

[marsh birch]

jfc

3700x has 16t??

[violet plank]

yeah

[marsh birch]

8cores

[violet plank]

8c8t

[marsh birch]

damn son

[violet plank]

8c16t sry

6 is enough as well

like a 3600

or even a 2600 should do

[marsh birch]

Sad that 6 is "enough"

[violet plank]

or was it 2700,can't recall atm

[marsh birch]

Just for fun tho, I'd like to test another cpu intensive game

And see what results i get

vs bfv

[violet plank]

well,more and more games gonna need more than 4 cores to run really smooth

[marsh birch]

okay

[storm osprey]

like.. play a different game thats "cpu intensive" and compare fps?

[marsh birch]

Roughly

[storm osprey]

i mean, thats not even close to apples to apples since bfv is such a technically advanced game

[violet plank]

frostbite engine is badly optimized for pc

[marsh birch]

^

[violet plank]

try metro 2033,should heat up your cpu to 100% as well

[marsh birch]

That's where I begin to lose faith

[storm osprey]

its not a faith thing though

[marsh birch]

Optimization at least plays a part

To some extent

[storm osprey]

even if frostbite is worse on pc compared to console, you still get massive destructible maps with 64 players and top of the line graphics and good fps...

like, yea you dont get the same FPS as apex legends, but apex legends is a waaay more simpler game than bfv

[violet plank]

one thing that could help you out a bit would be a user.cfg

[storm osprey]

only way you can shit talk bfvs optimization is looking at other bf titles honestly

[marsh birch]

Simpler in what sense, though. Does destruction really justify such a detrimental impact on FPS and usage of CPU? I don't think it's justified enough. I agree that 4c is what is causing the issue, I get it, but when you have people with 8th gen i7's facing the issue, I can't help but to think that optimization plays a large part.

Well yeah

BF4 (which is considered ancient in PC gaming) and BF1 run like butter compared to it

BF1 is more intensive than 4 obviously

But yeah those cant be compared

[violet plank]

bf just performs better on amd

[storm osprey]

destruction is only 1 aspect of what makes bfv a technical marvel of a game

[marsh birch]

Why though

Lol

Alright... what else?

[violet plank]

intel cpu's have huge security holes which have to be patched by micro code loading with the bios and windows itself,that eats loads of performance

[storm osprey]

massive maps with 64 players at all times, vehicles, probably some of the best graphics out there outside of a few titles

and i mean a very few titles

[violet plank]

and the intel management engine is total wack

[marsh birch]

Massive maps and 64 players isn't a new thing. The graphics, sure, but that's beginning to be more in relation to gpu usage. Btw for me my gpu is at 10%.

[violet plank]

google bfv user.cfg try some high fps ones,might help you with your stutters a bit

[storm osprey]

its not new, but again you have to look at other bf titles to compain about bfv

cod mw groundwars is the only title that really competes with bfv

[marsh birch]

I realize that 4C is a big part of the issue but not the entirety of it

@violet plank Whats that?

[storm osprey]

and i only played it during beta, but fps was the same, even though it does less

[violet plank]

settings beyond the normal bfv menu

which give you better performance

[marsh birch]

Hmm

[violet plank]

but with lower visuals ofc

[marsh birch]

Is it safe?

[violet plank]

yes

[marsh birch]

Thing is

Alright

[violet plank]

i'm using it myself

but tuned for my rig

[marsh birch]

Let me try lowering my visuals myself real quick, haven't gone lower than high

[violet plank]

i can upload it if you like,but dunno if it works for you like it does for me

[marsh birch]

Hol up

Are there a bunch of different ones?

heres one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMninEHcxek

[violet plank]

you can use most of them and change them to your likings

that's mine

[marsh birch]

alright

[violet plank]

menu colors are dark with it tho,but i don't care about that,ig performance counts

oh,and you got to set motion blur to 1% in the menu for it to work correctly

[marsh birch]

I have to figure out how to install this

[violet plank]

if yo don't like it just rename it to user.bak and it's disabled again

just copy it into your bfv main folder

where the bfv.exe is

[marsh birch]

aight

its inn

fuck

left my game on lol

[violet plank]

just restart

[marsh birch]

Ye

Do I gotta mess with anything else other than motion blur?

[violet plank]

maybe brightness

i need to set it to 100%

[marsh birch]

all my settings are still showing the same

[violet plank]

else it's too dark for me

[marsh birch]

like the normal settings

but this messed with the non normal settings right?

[violet plank]

the user.cfg overwrites most of your menu settings

yep

most of the settings are console settings

[marsh birch]

so its normal to see the settings as the same?

[violet plank]

not visible in your normal menu

[marsh birch]

ok

[violet plank]

it should give you at least a fps boost

like 20-30%

i'm playing with lowest graphical settings possible,only mesh on ultra,1440p on 144hz monitor,with that config i get 144 fps

well,141 you usually set -3 fps from your max refresh rate of your monitor

[marsh birch]

seems...

Well yeah

Ive got a shite monitor rn so

[fair stratus]

hi, does it happen that battlefield 5 crashes to the desktop without errors? I'm already tired of looking for how to solve this problem (

[violet plank]

reason is that gsync/freesync does not switch

[marsh birch]

tv actually

It seems like

[violet plank]

ah lol

[marsh birch]

the same

idk

[fair stratus]

hi, does it happen that battlefield 5 crashes to the desktop without errors? I'm already tired of looking for how to solve this problem (

[marsh birch]

slighly better?

cant tell the difference too much

[violet plank]

might not help on a tv i guess

[marsh birch]

Ive got my settings cranked up

on ultra

[violet plank]

limited to 60fps anyways

[marsh birch]

yeah

i wanna just be at astable 60rn

maybe ill put vsync on

[violet plank]

try some games with the config,maybe stutters are a bit less

[marsh birch]

trying rn

[violet plank]

@fair stratus yes,happens,dunno a solution either

one thing that can force bf to crash is if you have overclocked cpu/ram/gpu

[fair stratus]

@fair stratus yes,happens,dunno a solution either
@violet plank like tomorrow should fix in a patch

[marsh birch]

uhh

https://imgur.com/a/yT72LQF

This colour looks weird

[violet plank]

lmao,wtf

never seen that before

[fair stratus]

uhh
@marsh birch nothing is overclocked, only the xmp ram profile is on

[marsh birch]

??

Sorry that uhh wasnt for u lol

[violet plank]

think he meant me

[marsh birch]

Well

[violet plank]

xmp is fine btw

[marsh birch]

Now i just see green water

[violet plank]

some setting in the config is causing it i guess

you got an amd or nvidia card ?

[marsh birch]

nvidia

Im thinking

[violet plank]

weird

[marsh birch]

if i should set Thread.MaxProcessorCount to 4?

[violet plank]

should not happen with nvidia

[marsh birch]

1080ti btw

[fair stratus]

I already changed, the processor, motherboard, RAM, power supply, operating system, and the game all flies out smoothly periodically once a month

i played gtx1660ti

[violet plank]

guess you need to play around with the settings (if you want to),dunno a general solution of your rig and the user.cfg,it's always personal tweaking

else delete it,or rename it to user.bak to set it inactive

[marsh birch]

yeah

Im trying one from a guide rn

I honestly just need a stable 60fps

[violet plank]

dunno if it's possible,cpu bottlenecks your gpu,always

you got dual channel ram?

btw i'm playing with a 1080ti as well

[marsh birch]

dual channel?

Idk ive got 2x8 3200mhz ram

and yeah only bottleneck in bfv

[violet plank]

yeah 2x is dual,that's fine

[marsh birch]

@violet plank also u know the notepad settings?

[violet plank]

which ones?

[marsh birch]

like the one u sent

I opened it and wanna put other stuff in it

but is author and email, discord, etc... supposed to be up there?

wont it like mess with the code?

[violet plank]

huh,it is ?

sec

on the top ?

[fair stratus]

maybe you know and the developers did not answer anything about crashes to the desktop?

[marsh birch]

yeah

[violet plank]

i have nothing like that on my cfg

sec i download my own upload lul

[marsh birch]

ahh haha

well either way i took it off

[violet plank]

i don't see anything like that

[marsh birch]

im trying a new thing

[violet plank]

i deleted all personal infos before uploading

[marsh birch]

the top thing shud be //Counter/Max FPS right?

[violet plank]

or written ####

[marsh birch]

aight aight

[violet plank]

//BFV user.cfg
//Created by: ######
//Contributors: ######

that's the tip

top

do you use riva tuner ?

[marsh birch]

Oh

Nah

I just opened it on notepad

and now the icon is notepad, dk if that bad lol

Also does it matter if i just delete that stuff from the top?

[violet plank]

make sure you set on the nvidia control center gsync to ON / vsync ON and ingame vsync to OFF

you can delete anything that begins with \

err //

// won't affect the config anyways,that's just info stuff

with that you can also exclude stuff

[marsh birch]

why vsync ON and ingame vsync to OFF?

[violet plank]

so it works properly

for gsync

[marsh birch]

but what if it affects other games too, that are fine?

also isnt gsync only for monitors that support it? I got a crappy tv lol

[violet plank]

just do it for bfv,not global settings

ah crap,forgot lol

my bad

it's just lot's of ppl set it wrong with gsync monitors

[marsh birch]

its aight

Thanks for dealing with my bs btw

[violet plank]

np

[marsh birch]

let see..

@violet plank Just wanna make sure this is the right thing, rn vsync is on "Use 3d app setting" but i set it to on right?

[supple bane]

if you want higher fps set that to off

[marsh birch]

My max is 60

[supple bane]

vsync locks your fps to your monitors refresh rate

[marsh birch]

with this crappy tv

im trynna use cfg settings

and isuni jus recommended that i turn vsync in the panel on, but off in the actual game

[supple bane]

nvcp wont give you any real fps btw. maybe 5 fps at most.

[violet plank]

that's if you have a gsync monitor

[marsh birch]

ohh

so i just leave them as they are and use the cfg?

[violet plank]

try it yeah

the cfg does not mess with those settings around

just visuals to gain higher fps

[marsh birch]

okei

i'll just.. keep everything the same

and take off the personal inffo stuff

[violet plank]

i'm playing myself rn,might not see everything here

[marsh birch]

aight

@violet plank I can confirm its not the graphics thats causing the issue. I set it to medium and it was even worse.

At first it was good

But i'll see and try other cfg's ig

https://imgur.com/a/3aUsfa1

Mebe im doing something wrong

[supple bane]

is it still your fps your having trouble with ?

[violet plank]

set the fps from 200 to 60

and i guess the problem is your tv

well not that it is bad,tv's just handle inputs different than monitors

[marsh birch]

alright

@supple bane yess

@violet plank in gameu mean?

[violet plank]

nah in that config from your image

you got motion blur to 1% ig ?

@marsh birch

[thick copper]

guys

question

is 77 degress celsius under heeeavy load

okay

for GPU?

gtx 1660 super

[storm osprey]

sounds a bit warm, but most gpus are safe up to 90-100

of course i would just google 1660 super safe temps to find out

[quick locust]

77 is ok

Just a rather poor cooler considering it's a 1660 super, but meh

[storm osprey]

cant wait to see the temps i get with a 5700

[west willow]

Mine is almost 70 at around 50%, but the fans are barely spinning now

My RX5700XT reaches 70-80 under full load, so your should be slightly below that (if it isn't a reference card)

[thick copper]

can't find max safe temps

its Gigabyte gtx 1660 super oc 6g

[west willow]

Under 90 should be safe, I think the limit is around 95

[thick copper]

idle is 49

[quick locust]

It will thermal throttle by itself once it hits 85 afaik

89C if you set it to in afterburner

77 is fine, just slightly weak for a 1660 super cooler

As 1660 super doesn't use that much power

[storm osprey]

@west willow i got the 5700 msi mech oc

it was the cheapest amazon had

[thick copper]

should i use custom msi curve fan speed?

because this card is "brand new"

out of the box

and that temps scares me

[west willow]

@storm osprey I have the Gigabyte Gaming OC, so it's a triple fan card. I wouldn't expect anything above 80 on the MSI card, probably around 70 under full load (especially since my XT uses more power, so it runs hotter). They're used to be some issues with MSI RX5700s (memory thermal pads) ,but they are solved as far as I know.

[quick locust]

The temp is fine

It doesn't endanger the card

You can use custom fan curve and increase the fan speed it noise isn't as much of a bother to you

[thick copper]

nah i have headphones so i cant hear it

[storm osprey]

@west willow yea i read on that, but from what i gathered it was mostly bad with 5700xt

hopefully mine is good, thats why i was saying ill have to check it

[west willow]

It's easy to keep an eye on your temps with the radeon overlay, so if there are issues it won't take long to notice

[molten coral]

My GPU hits 78c easily

Really wanna watercool it but it's so damn expensive

[west willow]

It's normal for cards with a higher power draw

[molten coral]

I know but still

[prime jasper]

@thick copper what brand card?

[thick copper]

gigabyte

with 100% custom fan curve at 80-90% usage in game it gets max 73 now

[crude creek]

i always set my fan at 100% for 75C

[latent light]

I don't let my fan get above 60% because it gets too loud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ai_zcTXN6s

[thick copper]

damn

that is some next level

future gen

jet engine

i get 70C peak

with 100% fans

at bfv

but its still unplayable at 60 locked fps bcuz of this cpu

dang it

only thing i can play is rainbow six siege :c

i get there 130fps at ultra

[latent light]

Financial Analyst Day tomorrow, AMD could announce Ryzen 4000 and new Navi products

[storm osprey]

ryzen 4000 please

i need to upgrade my main rig

4790 chugging along

[thick copper]

What's ryzen 4000

Is it better to wait for it or go for 3600

[latent light]

hard to beat the 3600 when it's only $175

[thick copper]

Is there any Intel CPU at ryzen 5 3600 performance for the same price?

[latent light]

no lol

[storm osprey]

3600 competes against the i7 8700...

even though the 8700 wins, its probably its closest competition

[latent light]

closest would be the i5-9600K but that's $50 more and it lacks hyperthreading

[thick copper]

Anything that fits z170a?

43 plus

[latent light]

no

the best CPU you can upgrade to is the i7-7700K

on that motherboard

[thick copper]

Jeez

[latent light]

and that's still a 4-core

with hyperthreading

[thick copper]

That's 350 euro

2 times more

[storm osprey]

would be cheaper/better to get a 3600 and mb...

[thick copper]

Yes

That's what I'm gonna do

And 100 euro in my pocket

For some games

Or a better monitor

What about fans

I have 2 in front and 1 back

Should/can I add more

?

[storm osprey]

nah 3 is good

i think 2 minimum, 3 is optimal

adding fans beyond that reduces temps by 1 degree per fan maaaaybe

the only major benefit to adding more fans would be noise reduction, but thats another can of worms

100 euro wont get you much in terms of a monitor

but i guess that depends on what you already have

[thick copper]

allways i can just wait

and collect some more money

im not in a hurry for monitor

all i want is to play comfortable

in all games

at ultra