technology

[coarse nimbus]

or is it going to be a case of small ssd...and fuck you buy an expandable drive to put in it

[latent light]

they may have expandable storage

[coarse nimbus]

because cost saving

[molten coral]

I guess they will have a 500GB and 1TB version

[latent light]

there's a rumor that the APU in the Xbox will be upgradable lmao

[coarse nimbus]

thats what i still dont get about consoles...if its $500 then if youre brand new to the scene it might as well be 600 since you have to buy the yearly sub to what ever platform lol

and then your hdd space will run out fast af since games these days are insane with size, so whats the cost of an expandable drive for consoles? $50-100?

[latent light]

PS5 manufacturing cost was leaked, $450

so they could sell it between $400-500

more likely 500

[coarse nimbus]

theyre already going to make it up with that first year sub

plus the exclusives theyll have lol

is console gaming really cheaper than PCs over the course if its life

[latent light]

Xbox SX won't have games exclusive to the console itself for the first 2 years, Microsoft already said that they want to make all games available on the Xbox One too

meanwhile there will be PS5 games on launch that won't be available for the PS4

[coarse nimbus]

fair enough, i meant like sony exclusive games..spiderman etc

the allure of games like that will draw money in

[latent light]

I think there's a study that shows that <20% of PS4 owners actually own any exclusive games, while that other >80% of the userbase plays AAA games like R6S, COD, Fortnite, Apex, BF, ect.

the most played Sony exclusive is The Last of Us and it doesn't even make it in the top 10 played games on PS3 or PS4 lol

[sinful mantle]

yeah its a myth that there are more console gamers than PC gamers.

[river wyvern]

I knew every PS4 owners own at least an exclusive game

Like I have HZD, Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne

@sinful mantle There are more console players than PC players at any AAA games, AAA games sell better on consoles, wayy better

[sinful mantle]

Yeah console games generate more revenue (more expensive) but overall there's more PC gamers. If you count indie, free to play games, mods, etc. Then you have to discount the added expense of console membership fees verses steam, humble bundle, etc discounts. The consoles generate more revenue but like I say theres more overall PC gamers.

[river wyvern]

@sinful mantle Actually PC generate more overall revenue, there are microtransactions for F2P games that a lot of players have hands n

[sinful mantle]

but its super hard to narrow down as steam wont release their numbers

yeah i was talking about the cost of AAA games for consoles

[river wyvern]

The problem with PC games is piracy

[sinful mantle]

thats something to consider ...yes

[river wyvern]

The game has to be so good likr TW3 that people willingly to buy it after getting pirated

Or GTA V

Or offer multiplayer experience

[sinful mantle]

but i still believe taking all considerations there are more actual PC gamers than console gameers world wide...some people cant offord the monthly fees

well i agree theres more revenue involed in console games

but im saying there are more overall PC gamers taking all considerations.

console gamers are stuck with buying the games outright...PC gamers have many more options...pirating included

again mods, indie, and free to play games along with the AAA games

[river wyvern]

Well I could buy a Optiplex and a GT 730 to play LOL or DOTA 2 or CSGO

Or play those games on my laptop

So kinda reason why PC players are diverse

[sinful mantle]

yeah then you'd be amoung the ranks of PC gamers

yep true

[river wyvern]

You can't really debate PC players against console players

[sinful mantle]

yeah it is hard to pin down

[river wyvern]

Just like you comparing a van, truck, container to cars

[sinful mantle]

last survey was in 2017

but overall player base is what im on about

[river wyvern]

PC games overall quality is kinda downgrading

[sinful mantle]

naw man how can you say that?

[river wyvern]

Early access, Microtransactions, Live service crap

Something like TW3 is kinda hard to spot

[sinful mantle]

the old argument that PC gaming is dead or dying

not true at all

[river wyvern]

PC gaming don't die

[sinful mantle]

been saying that for 20 years now ever since the xbox came out

[river wyvern]

They just kinda being badly tend

[sinful mantle]

probably gonna be a merge of sorts

[river wyvern]

With good games singleplayer comes exclusively to PS4

The only hope right now is Cyperpunk 2077

[sinful mantle]

once we obtain universal ram drive support

or star citizen?

people are actually paying 1000s of real dollars for star ships....lol

[river wyvern]

Never heard of that

[sinful mantle]

no?...dude let me linc you up hang on:

[river wyvern]

Microtransactions kinda ruin PC gaming

And live service

[sinful mantle]

https://youtu.be/hqXZhnrkBdo

check this shit out...i recently joined the game...i suppose im now a star citizen

its a first person shooter with star ships and planets

[river wyvern]

We called it SWBF2 actually good campaign

[sinful mantle]

no its a different game altogether

[latent light]

I'm gonna do a Optiplex build with an i7-3770 and GTX 1650 low profile for $300 all together lmao

[sinful mantle]

search star citizen in your browser...you might get pretty exited as I did.

[river wyvern]

What cooler should I use for my 8400

[sinful mantle]

@latent light go for it grimmy!

[river wyvern]

Since I gonna render a lot

[latent light]

I wanted to do a Mini-ITX build in a Fractal Design Node 202 but Optiplex is smaller and way cheaper lol

[sinful mantle]

yeah it takes a powerful machine

[latent light]

8400 isn't good for rendering compared to other CPUs at the same price

[sinful mantle]

i have 16 gigs ram and i need another 8 gigs.....lol

[latent light]

even a $85 Ryzen 5 1600 AF will knock out a 8400 in that task

[sinful mantle]

@river wyvern some of these players are actually spending 1000's of real dollars to equip and buy ships...and you need a full crew to operate them..i got recruited to play on a ship is how i got into the game

[river wyvern]

It a second hand build I got no choice

[sinful mantle]

ita a open gallaxy not just a world but multi worlds

[river wyvern]

The problem is this PC still had a stock cooler on it 💩

[sinful mantle]

get water cooled

you canget a good system for cheap these days

[river wyvern]

It's just harmless 8400, I guess replacing something with below 40 dollars is good

I just don't what cooler to pick

I guess I just gonna pick CM one

[prime jasper]

very little point in sticking much more than maybe a hyper 212 on a locked CPU like that

[sinful mantle]

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-cooling-system-liquid-freezer-ii-120/p/N82E16835186246R

[latent light]

get a wrath spire and find an adapter kit for LGA 1151

[river wyvern]

An AIO for $51

Wow

Very cool, thank you

[latent light]

that's very pointless on a 8400 tbh

[sinful mantle]

why?

[prime jasper]

because its locked lmao

[latent light]

can't overclock, 8400 has a low TDP

[sinful mantle]

whos gonna over clock it?

[latent light]

just wasting money tbh

get a $20 cooler like the Deepcool Gammaxx

or the Arctic Freezer 33

[river wyvern]

Can you turn off RGB light for the deepcool onr

[latent light]

yes

just don't plug in the cable for the RGB

another cooler you can consider is the be quiet pure rock slim

it's smaller than those other coolers I listed but does really good

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076LX4DJF?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

although this is probably the best cooler for $30

[river wyvern]

Welp I guess that's cool

[latent light]

in terms of performance and looks

the pure rock slim could be a better option if you don't know the cooler clearance of your case

[potent glacier]

tek

insert stonks meme

since like a month ago my task manager has been showing really low memory speeds and ive no idea why

meanwhile my bios says otherwise with showing regular memory speeds

[potent glacier]

also my stupid origin keeps crashing for no reason

[sinful mantle]

@potent glacier Trust your mobo (bios) not win10 (task manager) windows is obviously not reading your XPM profile properly. Might be a glitch due to a windows up-date. You can conferm via memory testing apps available on-line. About Origin, if you've already deleted and re-installed Origin and you still have issues; right clic on the origen desktop shortcut and select properties...Compatability..."run as administrator" then try running it in 640 x 480 (yeah I know...ha) to test if it still crashes. If so uncheck the 640 x 480 box and next try "Disable fullscreen optimizations". If that doesn't do the trick uncheck that and next clic "change high DPI settings" check the "override high DPI scaling behavior" box. Hope this helps. if not just revert back to default and come back here and we can try something else.

[opaque saddle]

anyone ever put alkaline batteries in a garden shed?

[prime jasper]

...what

[opaque saddle]

i meant i put a temperature sensor there. im a bit worried it may burn the house down

[prime jasper]

lmao no

[opaque saddle]

may get up to 60C inside the shed in summer

or 140 in freedom unit

[prime jasper]

europooristan
hitting 60C
X doubt

[opaque saddle]

or 47C for the ambient temperature in the tropical rainforest

[prime jasper]

the humidity is what'll get it before the heat

just store em inside

store em in your fridge

problem solved

[opaque saddle]

nah just wondering will the high indoor temperature makes the battery cells exploded

[prime jasper]

no Im serious

just store them in your fridge

stop worrying about it

[opaque saddle]

...

[prime jasper]

https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/24/microsoft-offers-a-closer-look-at-the-next-xbox/

[storm osprey]

wtf is smart delivery

[prime jasper]

it wont turn on for poor people like you

[molten bramble]

[storm osprey]

good, i didnt want an xbox anyway

[prime jasper]

poor cope

[molten bramble]

It doesn’t want you either.

[prime jasper]

Ill be over here enjoying my quick resume for multiple games

[molten bramble]

^

I sidestepped the last model variant just for this next model.

[prime jasper]

now I can play all my dating sims at the same time

[coarse nimbus]

Quick resume games? Sounds like loading something on an SSD in my computer

[storm osprey]

i think its more like having 2 games open at once and switching between the 2 fast

[prime jasper]

Excuse me,is it true that laser weapon and particle beam weapon are different?

[storm osprey]

heres a good one

[prime jasper]

lel

one is currently made, one is not

[storm osprey]

dude was asking about performance

[quick locust]

It's slightly better

but not worth it today

[storm osprey]

thats the point exactly

dude says its substantially worse, when its not, its just not worth the performance increase considering the cost

[quick locust]

remember the 8700K faced 1700X (which went from 399 to 309 usd because of it)

not 3600x

but today the value is pretty bad on it

[coarse nimbus]

Grim just ignoring Killa a few responses up

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

lmao

reeeeeepost

[quick locust]

prob a slower 3700X and 5700 xt - perf custom gpu

with ssd

[latent light]

Quick resume is where you can instantly change between games and continue where you left off, no loading whatsoever

I guess the most recent games you play are placed in some kind of cache

[quick locust]

so like alt tab

[coarse nimbus]

Surely won't slow it down at all

[storm osprey]

yea but having multiple games open on pc will mean less performance

[quick locust]

and im sure it will have a limit on xbox too

to how many you can have open

[coarse nimbus]

Aka market gimick

[storm osprey]

hmm makes me wonder if new xbox can run something like 144hz now, but they chose to have multiple game switching

[quick locust]

i mean it probably could once games were made for it

since it seems the publisher decides it

and if they didn't go for CinEmaTiC

Consoles at 144 in shooters would be real nice though (once TVs allow it too)

[storm osprey]

ehh, most people wouldnt pay for 120/144hz anyway

[quick locust]

many probably wouldnt notice anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯

for normal people

[supple bane]

a console's target demographic is people who just want to come home from a stress ful day at work, jump on the couch and play fifa or forza

[storm osprey]

filthy casuals

[supple bane]

if your excited that a console is getting 144fps you should be looking at getting a pc

because you clearly dont fit in with the target audience

[quick locust]

The better the console = the higher lowest denominator for game dev = possibly better games

lul

I don't have a console but increasing the bar for games would be great

[prime jasper]

ray tracing in a mainstream console is a pretty damn high bar

[quick locust]

yeah which is good

it's obviously going to be mostly mixed raster/raytracing when it comes (in the games that support it), but will be nice nonetheless

[storm osprey]

so thats where fps is going, towards rtx

[quick locust]

well in some games yeah

[prime jasper]

for the vast majority of games 60fps is just fine

you dont need 144fps for your dungeon splunking

[storm osprey]

dont tell me what is just fine

i need that 100+ fps

[quick locust]

meanwhile i wish C:S ran over 20 fps

[prime jasper]

csgo?

[quick locust]

No, cities skylines

[prime jasper]

oh lel

[quick locust]

csgo is easy to run

[storm osprey]

i used to play cs 1.6 at like 30 fps..

this was like 2007 with an old pc

[quick locust]

oof

i used to run faster than light at 10 fps

But I've gotten away from using bad hardware luckily

[quick locust]

I think the quick resume on xbox will just push the game to a secondary cpu

Like PS4 which also has a secondary cpu which is used for background updates etc

[supple bane]

@prime jasper when you gonna change your pfp back to the flag?

i miss it

[prime jasper]

@supple bane when the pandemic is over

[supple bane]

grrrrrrr

[prime jasper]

tally ho, bobs your uncle

[supple bane]

thats not how that saying works

you have to be smart to use that saying

[prime jasper]

sorry Im not limey enough to decipher your gibberish saying

[supple bane]

well how about you go break a leg

what are other american sayings?

its not rocket science

i guess yeah, british ones are more gibberish

[prime jasper]

its not rocket surgery*

[quick locust]

EA servers down?

👀

[latent light]

[supple bane]

i find 8 pin cpu is worse

at least on my mobo

because its really hard to get at

trying to squeeze fat fingers in there is a nightmare

[latent light]

would be easier without that top fan

[supple bane]

i take it off

its still hard

i can push the lever in, i just cant grip the thing to pull it out

[coarse nimbus]

Long needle nose pliers

[latent light]

Xbox Series X Highlights:

• 12 TFLOP GPU powered by RDNA 2
• 8-core Zen 2 CPU
• Variable Rate Shading support
• Hardware accelerated DirectX raytracing
• "Next generation" SSD (gen 4?)
• Quick Resume: Suspend and instantly return to multiple games
• Dynamic Latency Input
• HDMI 2.1
• 120FPS support
• Backwards compatible with every generation of Xbox
• Free next gen updates for games you buy for the Xbox One S/X should you upgrade to Xbox Series X

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ainsley-harriott-spicy-gif-5739090

[storm osprey]

120FPS? interesting

[violet plank]

rumors of the actual ps5 dev kit tops the xbox already in ram/cpu/TFLOP's

[latent light]

Dynamic Latency Input is a method for synchronizing inputs with a game's rendering path, while ALLM sounds like a feature that would allow the Xbox Series X to communicate with your display and adjust the picture settings for the lowest possible latency.

@violet plank that's a devkit tho

[violet plank]

yeah,but the those xbox stats aren't final as well i guess

they will be close anyways,games will be deciding as usual imo

[latent light]

PS5 leaks show it has 9 TFlops of RDNA 1.0, while Xbox has 12 TFlops of RDNA 2.0

[storm osprey]

well xbox rendering 2 games at once so you can swap fast xD

[violet plank]

last one i have seen mentioned 1tflop more for the ps5,but it's all rumors at this time shrug

[latent light]

I'm sure Microsoft is pushing to have the fastest console, they can pay big money

[violet plank]

the thing i care actually the most for is cooling and noise

[storm osprey]

i remember when they released a more expensive console that was weaker

[latent light]

yep lol

well when they took out the Kinect it was the same price as the PS4

[storm osprey]

and it was still weaker

smooth brain moment

[violet plank]

MS design looks better in terms of cooling/noise so far

[storm osprey]

i wish ps would stop trying to make shit small and just make things quiet

i fucking hate how loud my ps4pro is

[violet plank]

the first ps4 batch was so horrible lul

louder than my vac cleaner

[molten coral]

I've one of the first PS4's

[violet plank]

my ps4pro is actually quite silent

[molten bramble]

XBox has the added advantage of eco-system integration with the home PC, NAS, and cloud services that PS5 fails to bring forth with every iteration... to the point that they (Microsoft) might just get sued for antitrust a second time for anti-competitive/monopolistic behavior lol

[violet plank]

lmao

[storm osprey]

@violet plank whats your model #?

[violet plank]

dunno,was the first batch to buy here

maybe i got lucky

[molten bramble]

PS might just be the Blackberry of the machine realm soon enough

[storm osprey]

hmm, probably 7xxx

if thats the case, yea you got lucky

first batch pros were horrible

[violet plank]

hmm

where do you see that model nr?

[storm osprey]

in the back left iirc

if its pro it stars with a 7

[latent light]

tbh PS will never die off because they have more game studios

[storm osprey]

theres 3 pro versions, 70xx, 71xx, and 72xx

[violet plank]

not gonna rip it out my rack for that atm lol

[storm osprey]

biggest change from them is better acoustics even if it means hotter thermals

[violet plank]

gonna move in about 2-3 weeks,gonna check it when i pack it

[storm osprey]

yea, mine literally gets so loud that my fiance wakes up from it if she naps in the room

[violet plank]

just compared to my original ps4 my pro is dead silent

[storm osprey]

i compared my pro to my friends pro who has a 71xx pro

and his is like whisper silent

his loud is my idle

[violet plank]

so i got that one i guess

[storm osprey]

or my unit is one of the worst units

[violet plank]

but i bought it on release day,weird

[storm osprey]

(i tend to have that luck)

[violet plank]

not gonna buy/preorder the new ones til there are good reviews about the noise

[prime jasper]

wait hold on

the new consoles are gonna have ray tracing?

[violet plank]

well,i'm going for the ps anyway,ms doesn't got the games i like

some sort of

software raytracing i guess

[prime jasper]

well

there goes consoles being cheap

[violet plank]

target is still sub 500$

[prime jasper]

wtf

[violet plank]

499$

what was the release price of the ps4/x one ?

[prime jasper]

they are gonna lose a lot of money 500 bucks for ray tracing

400

[violet plank]

the won't have hardware raytracing cores

[prime jasper]

i know but still

[violet plank]

the big money is in the games anyways

[prime jasper]

i wonder whether rx 580 will die out, idk if it will be able to run big games

i have an rtx 2080

i used to have an rx 580 tho

[violet plank]

for me rtx is useless atm,just not enough frames

i prefer frames over quality any time

[prime jasper]

honestly as long as its over 60 fps and the temps are under 90 its fine

[violet plank]

lol,the rumors about big navi getting ridiculous,32gb hbm2/3

[prime jasper]

i just can't see playstation and xbox going that far

[violet plank]

for consoles i don't care to much,but on the pc in want 144 fps to match my monitor

[prime jasper]

i thought they were gonna do a minor upgrade from the ps4, call it a new console and develop games for it

[latent light]

the CPU and GPU in the Xbox/PS5 is an APU, we don't know the size of the one used in the PS5 but the one for the Xbox SX was revealed and it's die size is ~405mm² on 7nm, which should mean under ~$120 manufacturing cost for the APU alone

[violet plank]

and they order those in 10 of thousends

[latent light]

yeah so a discount on large quantity purchases

[violet plank]

unless the corona virus keeps lingering around for longer...

[prime jasper]

hold on fuck am i talking about rx 580 is gonna not be obsolete when the GT 1030 can still run modern games

[latent light]

GT 1030 isn't a 1080p GPU tho

[prime jasper]

hell the gt 730 can run modern games

yeah ik

but still

it can run it

[latent light]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-on-ps4/

I still find this funny

[ashen ether]

GT 1030 is just a new 750ti

[crude creek]

gt 1030 overclocked can beat xbox sx

[prime jasper]

whatever you say, Yang

[storm osprey]

LOL

[crude creek]

im a numbers guy

and the numbers show

[river wyvern]

Phil is a friendly guy

[storm osprey]

he looks like a douche, could be pulling a front honestly

[river wyvern]

But his friendliness gonna kill Xbox brand

[latent light]

Xbox Game Pass has made a huge impact

[crude creek]

bruh ever since the guy before phil left, he been pulling it back up

[latent light]

Microsoft are gonna push it further, start investing into more game publishers like Rockstar, 2K, Activision, ect.

soon you'll see games from those companies on Game Pass

Phil is the best boss Xbox has had

because he's a leader that actually plays games

not like the previous guys that just wanted money and didn't care about negative criticism

[river wyvern]

Anyone remember the legendary HD 4670

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680952571124514825/681674741723037710/2020cc34582d-c083-4988-9de6-8df8cc6ca776.jpg

Found it in my garage for 8 years

Along with old keyboard and webcam

Still have HDMI. Super future-proofed

[opaque saddle]

i swapped my GTS450 for ATI Radeon HD 5750 with my friend. that was like 8 years ago as well

[river wyvern]

For free?

[ashen flax]

Ngl my gt730 can run bfv smoothly 30fps with some tweaks and 50% res

[latent light]

can you even see enemies at medium/long range at 50% resolution scale?

I feel like the large pixels would just drown them out

[lofty light]

Somewhat, I know from experience sadly

[opaque saddle]

I thought if your res is 1080p but the resolution is set to 50%, means it’s rendering at 540p but upscale to 1080 for the output internally

[lofty light]

Give it a try, it's definitely not that

[opaque saddle]

Anything lower than 600p is quite low even with my old 1360x768 display on my old laptop

[latent light]

think that dude yesterday said he played 720p at 50% resolution scale

on a 15' screen

at that point I'd just buy an xbox

used one at least

anything

I thought BFV on a GTX 770 was bad lmao

but a GT 730...

[lofty light]

Oof

I tried running even Bf1 on an i5 6400T and had to turn it to 50% res to get more than 25fps

[latent light]

I find it funny that on Xbox One, BF4 ran at 720p 60 fps but BF1 ran at 900p 60 fps with anti-aliasing

I guess they didn't have as much time optimizing for BF4 due to the consoles being new

[storm osprey]

happy pc makes me happy

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TaQ7KV0KuI

hmmmm, case reminds me of the xbox series x console

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWUOldsxXQ

[storm osprey]

hardware unboxed really digging into toms hardware

[supple bane]

i like THW

i spend quite a bit of time there actually

[storm osprey]

i used to, but the more i learn the less i like them

[forest token]

oof

[supple bane]

i dont really do any of their news stuff, just forums

i love helping people out when it comes to compooters

[prime jasper]

MY GAME IS STUTTERING

FIX IT NAO

[forest token]

play in fullscreen, not fullscreen borderless

[supple bane]

anndddd, thats why i prefer to do my nerdy stuff in forums

[prime jasper]

I HAVENT UPGRADED SINCE 2008, WILL IT RUN?!?!?!

[supple bane]

as i dont see that message every day

[storm osprey]

i have /r buildapc and pcpartpicker discord servers

some helpful people, but at the same time they meme a lot and say stupid shit

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-YD1600BBAFBOX/dp/B07XTQZJ28

1600 af back in stock for 85 bucks

[latent light]

[storm osprey]

im kind of tempted

[supple bane]

why tho

[storm osprey]

replace my 4790 and then put the 4790 in my front room that will replace my 4750

[prime jasper]

and a new mobo, and new ram

[storm osprey]

yeps

prices right now arent bad

[supple bane]

would the 1600 af really be that much of an upgrade from the 4790?

[storm osprey]

barely

but for 1440p hardly anything is a worthwhile upgrade

[supple bane]

except gpu

[storm osprey]

i would have to get at least a 2080 super to get something like 25% more performance

[supple bane]

well you already have a 1080ti right?

[storm osprey]

standard 1080

[supple bane]

ah

close

[storm osprey]

its basically a whole upgrade to get anything meaningful

just cpu upgrade doesnt really do much for 1440p when i dont have a top of the line gpu

and a gpu wont really give me a lot of performance gains for the price

[latent light]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Performance-Gaming-AMD-Ryzen-1st-and-2nd-Gen-AM4-M-2-USB-3-DDR4-Mini-ITX/133338278953?epid=28032166871&hash=item1f0b94ac29:g:1b8AAOSw0j5eTA2V

I want it so much

less than 8 hours left in bid

half the price of a new one lol

[storm osprey]

the last hour will be hell xD

if you had a 4790 and a 1080 for 1440p what would you upgrade?

[supple bane]

for you, without upgrading both cpu and gpu you eint gonna see much performance gains

[storm osprey]

pretty much

so i sit

and upgrade my front room pc

[supple bane]

upgrading the gpu will cause a bottleneck and upgrading the cpu is well.... pointless for 1440p

if i had to chose tho it would be cpu, a 4 core cpu for bfv, eek

[storm osprey]

im basically waiting for a 500-700 gpu to be a 50% performance increase and then ill upgrade

[supple bane]

3000 series here you come

[storm osprey]

yea thats what im hoping

im stuck nvidia too since i have a gsync monitor

nvm, amd gpus are supported now right?

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-gif-5094560

[forest token]

some officially others can be used unofficially

for freesync on nvidia cards

meaning you can use a freesync monitor on a nvidia gpu

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gsync-monitor-with-amd-graphics-card-nvidia

[storm osprey]

yea thats what i was looking for

[latent light]

Discord server: has a tech channel

GrimAce: It's free real estate

[storm osprey]

hmm

awoogang would like this territory

[sullen finch]

would a 2080 super be a big enough upgrade from 1070 ti if I want to game at 1440p? Currently running it with an i5 9600k and I have to play at potato settings to get decently high FPS.

[prime jasper]

that would be a nice bump

[sullen finch]

Thanks @prime jasper any chance new cards will be coming out soon? I want to avoid buyers remorse lol

[prime jasper]

a few months I think

forgot what the rumors said

[supple bane]

you might want to look into the 5700xt

trades blows with the 2080s

out right beats it in bfv

[sullen finch]

@supple bane thanks, just tried comparing the 2 at https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4050vs4045 2080S appears to be decently ahead in overall performance but there is a big price gap as well

[supple bane]

dont trust userbenchmark

not accurate at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nehn0AEhfTE&t=51s

yeah i guess its slightly better in most games. but you said you want to avoid buyers remorce, are you willing to double the price for what ? 5 fps on average

[molten coral]

2080 S for 700?

[supple bane]

i mean, thats how much it is here

[molten coral]

[sullen finch]

Its on average $1000 here in Canada. at least for the 3 fan rtx 2080S models

[prime jasper]

oof

[supple bane]

its about 700 pounds here, which is like, 1.1k dollars ? 1k maybe, something like that

[sullen finch]

~1400 CDN double oof

[prime jasper]

jesus thats the best 2080ti you can get here

[sullen finch]

oh the 1400 is what 700 GBP roughly converts to

[supple bane]

2080ti is 1200 pound which 1600 dollars or something

[sullen finch]

I paid 400 for the 1070ti about a year and a half ago, when building my first gaming pc. I was used to playstation 3 up until that point. I still play BF3 on ps3 lol. but yeah that pricing has spoiled me

[molten coral]

I remember buying my first upgrade the MSI 1070 for like 650 euro

MSRP was 400-450 but at release prices are always just crazy

[supple bane]

does anyone know if the r5 2600 and the 5700xt will get 144fps at 1440p on low settings in bfv?

because im not too sure

[storm osprey]

at 1440p i doubt 144hz stable

[supple bane]

https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/amd-ryzen-5-2600/low#mainads

from what i can see from this website it gets 160

but im not too sure if thats with a 2600

[storm osprey]

3600/5700xt on bfv 1440p low settings

[supple bane]

great screenshot lad

[storm osprey]

its supposed to be a link from youtube

[prime jasper]

the FPS is so high its absorbing all colors of light

[storm osprey]

but now its just doing this

https://youtu.be/p7bShY8cjv8?t=401

there it is

[supple bane]

yeah but thats a 3600

[storm osprey]

even that doesnt get 144hz

thats the point

at 1440p the cpu difference is probably a few FPS at most anyway

[supple bane]

thing is, with a 3900x, the 5700xt gets 160 at low

i wouldnt have thought those cpus would make 60-70 fps difference at 1440p

i mean lets be fair, im playing competitive shooters at 1440p with a 1060 3gb

i think i deserve a damn upgrade

even if it wont reach 144 at low, it should still be a nice boost

deffo worth 360 pound for that matter

[crude creek]

i keep hearing the drivers for AMD cards are garbage

you have to be lucky to get a card that plays good

[supple bane]

no

75% of people experience no problems,

25% have infrequent crashing issues

said crashing from what i heard is caused by monitoring software a lot of the time

navi hates monitoring software

[storm osprey]

i reaaally doubr a 3900x is getting 60+ more fps than a 3600 at 1440p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=EHUfyNvGqkI&feature=emb_logo

this video shows avg 120, same as 3600

[crude creek]

holy crap man

i wish i could get ultra on bfv this res lol

[storm osprey]

hmm, at the very end its showing 180ish fps, but those places are mostly away from the action and mostly landscales

[supple bane]

That's the vid I was talking about

But on B on devastation he was getting 150-160

In fact on average he was getting that

[storm osprey]

first 6 minutes is like 120 avg, then its 160

so idk wtf changed

im an idiot it changes to low

[supple bane]

Yeah hahaha

So that's what confuses me

Can a cpu really make that much difference or is there optimisation issues with these benchmarks

[storm osprey]

it shouldnt make that much of a difference

especially considering 5700xt isnt top of the line so its not like gpu doesnt have a bottleneck at 1440p being gpu bound

the lower fps video i linked is on a reference 5700xt

vs a thick ultra lll

[supple bane]

I mean maybe it's a combination of better cpu, and much higher clock speeds

[storm osprey]

even though performance between reference and AIB gpus for amd cards arent normally much of a difference

basically the main perk of going AIB was noise reduction moreso than performance improvements

[supple bane]

From the maths I've done at this point I'm expecting 120 fps average

On low

[storm osprey]

for dx 11 maybe

my old system on dx12 i get 100-110 fps

[supple bane]

Well the difference between the 3600 and the 2600 was 4 fps on single player, but this was 1080p so at 1440 the difference I would assume would be even less. So just for arguments sake I'm gonna say the difference between the 3600 and the 2600 at 1440p would be anywhere between 2 fps and 5 fps. Then using the video you sent of the guy on twisted steel, he averaged around 125. And that was in a damn active environment

So 125 minus like 3 or 4

Puts ne around 120 bang on

[storm osprey]

basically

[supple bane]

Well

It's not 144

But it'll do

[storm osprey]

i feel like 5700xt would get more fps than that honestly

[supple bane]

Well the proof is in the pudding

[storm osprey]

ehhh, the pudding is putting faith in other users

[supple bane]

True

My maths and my pudding doesnt explain why a cpu was giving 40 fps difference

That remains a mystery

Maybe the twisted steel guy did have something wrong with his setup

We know how bfv is some times

[storm osprey]

gpucheck says that an 8700k with a 5700xt at 1440p low settings gets 250 fps...

[supple bane]

Ow ffs

Now I'm even more confused

[storm osprey]

wait nvm

that was 1080p

(even though i selected 1440p)

[supple bane]

Wait 250x 0.7

That would be 175fps in 1440p

Top tip, to work out what fps a system would get in 1440p, multiply the 1080p numbers by 0.7

It's pretty much exact

[storm osprey]

shouldnt it be 33%?

[supple bane]

No

1440p is 1.7x as many pixels as 1080

Meaning 0.7x the performance

[storm osprey]

performance doesnt directly correlate like that with pixel count

[supple bane]

No, no it doesnt

[storm osprey]

i had literally just watched a video that went through this

[supple bane]

But its not far off

Plus or minus 5 fps

Ik it works because just before I brought my 1440p monitor I did that method to know in advanced what fps i would get

And it was pretty much to the dot

On everything

That video above proves it actually, in 1080p ultra he averages 132 fps, 132x0.7 is 92

He averaged 91

[storm osprey]

hmm, i could have sworn the math was different

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/new-amd-powered-nucs-sapphire-crams-in-new-embedded-ryzen-socs

[latent light]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-5-3600-outsells-closest-Core-rival-by-nearly-13-to-one-as-AMD-hammers-Intel-into-the-ground-in-Mindfactory-CPU-sales-data.454514.0.html

Jesus

Intel doesn't even make it in the the top 10 best selling CPUs on Amazon, Ryzen has all spots

[storm osprey]

You get what you fucking deserve

[latent light]

[molten coral]

[supple bane]

I'm surprised the 9900k is sold more than something more midrange from Intel like a 9600k

[quick locust]

i guess midrange intel is dead cause of amd

[opaque saddle]

And low end as well

[quick locust]

erm

seems like my 3700U has a 11W power limit on cpu and integrated graphics combined

when im charging most of it is cpu and on battery most is gpu.. err

so i got slow cpu on battery but slow gpu when charging

wonder why they just didnt increase power limits when charging instead of just changing the priority

[lofty light]

The 3700U is a real low power chip though so I don't think it can go higher than the hard limit?

[quick locust]

well i know but either the cpu is throttled or the gpu is

I wish it had a 35W limit instead of 11

i could have went 3750H instead i suppose

[lofty light]

Could've gone with a desktop

Na gaming on laptops is pain, I've only got my laptop to game on the rest of this week so I know the feels

[prime jasper]

what about a 3470? i5

[lofty light]

He's on the i7 laptop CPU, it's got a hard power limit

[prime jasper]

am I going to have issues getting it to work with my 980ti?

ah ok

I get it

[lofty light]

Ah 3470 and a 980ti should be fine

You will have issues with CPU heavy things but other than that you're cruisey

[prime jasper]

one step at a time lol, need a PSU for this beast first

[quick locust]

nah i do have a desktop

lol

just using laptop when elsewhere

[lofty light]

Ye defs know the feels then

I bought a Dell xps 15 for gaming when out and about with work, but the screen has such bad tearing and lag that it makes me nauseous

[quick locust]

ah

[lofty light]

End up gaming on my MacBook at 20 fps instead

[quick locust]

I went from a lenovo flex 15D with a8 6410 to this even tho it wasnt that old

because that cpu suck lol

[lofty light]

Yeah that's fair enough

[quick locust]

and the keyboard controller has issues on that model

[lofty light]

I've ended up giving up on gaming on my laptop mostly tbh, just rewatch star trek episodes when I'm bored

[quick locust]

I considered geforce now for a bit but when im out I usually dont have good connection anyway so

but my desktop at home is real nice

[lofty light]

Noice mine too, can't wait to get back and play some more tbh

[quick locust]

Same

Ultra 1440p

[lofty light]

Ayyyy, I'm an ultrawide dude myself

[quick locust]

I've considered it

21:9 3440x1440

would be nice i guess

but i always wondered how much it would break some games

or just have black bars on them

[lofty light]

It's supported on most stuff tbh, I'm on that res

Only games I can think of that really don't like it is Skyrim and Dragon Age Inquisition

[quick locust]

im on 2560x1440 so the standard format

[lofty light]

Skyrim refuses to go ultrawide and it breaks the menus if you force it, and dragon age has the star puzzles break weirdly

[quick locust]

lol

I wonder how VA is as most ultrawide seem to use that

I've only used TN before

[lofty light]

I haven't used VA but I hate TN now after using IPS for years

It's sooooo much better honestly, life-changing stuff

[quick locust]

my laptop and monitor is both TN

hm

my monitor is an xb241yu

[lofty light]

ASUS?

[quick locust]

acer

[lofty light]

Ah, ye mine is too

I've got the X34P

[quick locust]

acer xb241yu, 24 inch 2560x1440p 165 Hz TN

way better than my previous which was 1366x768p 60 Hz 26 inch

[lofty light]

Ah that one noice

Oof

[quick locust]

But IPS seem tempting

as well as ultrawide

[lofty light]

IPS is honestly godlike

As long as you get a good one though, as cheaper ones are prone to ghosting

[quick locust]

yeah i know

Ultrawide and IPS is tempting but i dunno if i can justify it lol

[molten coral]

Is a dell xps really that bad for gaming?

I've a Dell xps 15 (2018) from work but that thing is locked so can't really download anything

As i'm going back to college in september I thought about buying one for my own as it's a good quality laptop

[quick locust]

I've got an acer aspire 3 which is meh

I've been crazy enough to consider bringing a nuc around instead

[worldly goblet]

O

[unborn spoke]

how is rtx performance for y'all? I dont think DLSS looks as ugly as many describe it, but it doesnt make that much of a performance difference

[quick locust]

It's alright, solomon seems to tank in rtx though

[unborn spoke]

And how are temps?

[quick locust]

Well that's specific to your card

[unborn spoke]

I'm not that experienced yet, but ty

[opaque saddle]

@lofty light The older HDTVs are more likely be VA panels. They’re not nice to play on. As you know I got the IPS 2k 144hz monitor with no regrets.

[violet plank]

i knew it lol,all the big navi "leaks/rumors" from the last few days are fake

https://news.skhynix.com/official_statement_recent_media_reports_regarding_sk_hynixs_hbm2e_and_amds_next-gen_gpu_are_misleading/

[opaque saddle]

Unless there are a few really really good reason to push me into OLED. Otherwise I’ll just stick with IPS because of the colour on display

[quick locust]

I'm tempted by IPS but hm

[opaque saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWUOldsxXQ

[storm osprey]

@opaque saddle that was posted yesterday

[opaque saddle]

Didn’t see that

I don’t come here often

[storm osprey]

you monster

[supple bane]

we all know deep down that this is the best chat

tech>general

[storm osprey]

this chat is wack

[supple bane]

pffht

get out of here scrub

[crude creek]

its cool because of grimace

[supple bane]

(and me)

[crude creek]

grimace

[storm osprey]

i have 42k messages in battlefield, 33k in general, and 13k in tech

[crude creek]

how check

[storm osprey]

search you name, then search room and it will tell you how many messages

[supple bane]

i have 10k in tech, 5k in general and 500 in battlefield

[storm osprey]

yea im almost at 90k messages for this server...

[supple bane]

im at 15,576

but ive only been in here for 1 year almost exactly

[storm osprey]

i joined during bfv beta iirc

so a little over a year

[supple bane]

that was my first message

amazing first message nyphon hehe

HELLO

IM NYPHON

NICE TO MEET YOU
!

[storm osprey]

lol yea that sounds about right

how do you see first message?

nvm, i see the oldest tab now

[supple bane]

yh

this was one of my first messages

scratches head

dont ask

because i dont know

[storm osprey]

nice

at least mine made sense

is aberystwyth an acronym?

[supple bane]

no its a town name in wales

nice place actually lol

if you didnt know. welsh towns are called stupid things

[storm osprey]

and you decided that would be your first message in this server?

[supple bane]

well it wasnt my first as to say

was like my 5th

im gonna go look at the context

im sure there was a legitimate reason

ta darrrrrr

someone said a random place, so i said a random place

seeeeeeee!!! im not that stupid!!!!

@prime jasper joined just a few days after me !!! it was like it was meant to be

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-bear-couple-line-hug-cant-breathe-gif-12687187

[storm osprey]

youve summoned the beast

[supple bane]

worth it

[prime jasper]

Speak of the devil, and he shall appear

[supple bane]

hey devil!

how are ya\

[prime jasper]

quite satisfied knowing you obsessively think about Americans even in a vidya gayme chat

[storm osprey]

🇺🇸

[supple bane]

well i wouldnt say obsessivley

but it is kinda hard to get away from you muricans, lets be fair

[prime jasper]

[supple bane]

since you cover so much area

https://tenor.com/view/badumtsss-drums-joke-gotcha-burn-gif-5645546

[prime jasper]

dont you forget. better suck on those limes before corona-chan touches your nono parts

[crude creek]

CORONA-CHAN

[prime jasper]

y-yes desu senpai?

[molten coral]

@supple bane Regular chat was the best

before it got removed

[supple bane]

im sad i missed it

i got da role too late

[storm osprey]

when the fuck was there a regular chat?1

[prime jasper]

when we took over tech chat, the just said fuck it and deleted that channel since it was full of cod kiddies

now this is the regular chat

[molten coral]

It wasn't called ''regular chat'' I think it was called VIP chat or something like that

[prime jasper]

well this is VIP chat now

[storm osprey]

well regular is newish as well

but when i got trusted there wasnt a chat for that either

closest i saw was regular chat that staff could only post in to tell us why WE LOST OUR DAMN GREY COLOR

[prime jasper]

still SEETHING

[supple bane]

i swear i got trusted like the same day they removed the colour

or it wasnt far off at least

[storm osprey]

its the only reason im in this server, is to flex a color

90k messages have all been for that

[supple bane]

that was like

the main reason i wanted trusted too

so i looked kool

[storm osprey]

you really see who is here to be in battlefield and who is here to flex a color

[mild bough]

You need 90k messages to get regular? @storm osprey

[supple bane]

no

[storm osprey]

lol thatd be a grind

[mild bough]

yeha precisely

[supple bane]

you need to be active, kind and helpful

[mild bough]

yeeah right

only actual way to get regular is to bribe nacho

[molten coral]

bribe me with pizza

[prime jasper]

bribe? I didnt bribe anybody, I just succeeded with overwhelming autism

[mild bough]

okeey nacho

[supple bane]

ill have 200 pizzas sent to youre house in exchange for mod

[mild bough]

i send it in mail

[prime jasper]

just vacuum seal the pizza and send it over

keeps it nice and fresh

[storm osprey]

i want to try that now

[mild bough]

same

[supple bane]

what stuffing nacho full of pizza?

[mild bough]

yes

and try and seal the pizza with plastic to see if it will be fresh

[crude creek]

change your pfp

[supple bane]

if your gonna do that, at least make it the right colour lol

its slightly too dark

[storm osprey]

should just set it as full transparent so it works all the time

like this

[molten coral]

?

[forest token]

🍕

[storm osprey]

nah dont do color

[supple bane]

discord doesnt update the pfps staightt away

[storm osprey]

if you scroll over nacho or click pfp you can see it doesnt work

transparent > grey

[supple bane]

the flex is real

[molten coral]

which flex

[storm osprey]

also not everyone is a dark mode user

[supple bane]

pfht

no

[storm osprey]

transparent master race

[supple bane]

everyone is a darkmode user

[molten coral]

is this better?

[supple bane]

hehe

yeah

everyone just set there pfp to the standard one

[storm osprey]

if there was an orange one i might

[supple bane]

im one of them

time to start a new trend

standard pfp gang!

[storm osprey]

disgusting

[prime jasper]

change your pfp back to your ugly mug

[storm osprey]

who?

[supple bane]

you

[storm osprey]

3 people changed it

[molten coral]

You of course

[supple bane]

side note, NYPHON ISNT UGLY!

[molten coral]

[supple bane]

that manly beard will shit all over you

[storm osprey]

see, cant be me, im hot AF

[prime jasper]

default gang gang

[supple bane]

eh, i wouldnt go that far

[storm osprey]

its a club

[supple bane]

ok im bored of the defult gang

[storm osprey]

good

join the "oh now here did you pfp go" gang

[forest token]

have to find my profile pic again before I change it

[supple bane]

ill draw you a copy on ms paint, dw

[storm osprey]

lol that was my specialty for a while

[forest token]

\o/ done, red = gross though

[storm osprey]

this one was my favorite

[molten coral]

I've to remind everyone that this is the tech channel. So only talk good about AMD and trash intel into the ground.

[prime jasper]

@molten coral Intel better because 10 more FPS

I wish I could ban you

[molten coral]

hurrr durrrr AMD better performance overall hurr duurrr

[prime jasper]

huurrrrr HIGH REFRESH RATE GAYMING duuuurrrrr

muh eff pee esss

[molten coral]

||Intel is better tho||

[forest token]

|| losing ground fast tho ||

|| and the security vulnerabilites ||

[prime jasper]

||ban Nacho||

[molten coral]

I'm unbannable, i'm like the piece of furniture in your house that you don't use but you don't throw it away because you had it for years.

[prime jasper]

sounds like my ex

[molten coral]

[supple bane]

@forest token

here

[storm osprey]

LOL

[forest token]

what technology did you use for that since we are in #technology

[supple bane]

errrr

ms paint

ooh look ill draw @prime jasper too

[prime jasper]

lmao

yay

[supple bane]

done

there is your portait

[forest token]

[prime jasper]

I wouldve appreciated being called a dosser or bellend or some other cute little limey saying

[storm osprey]

HAHAHAHA

that was a good one

[supple bane]

im gonna draw nyphons manly beard from memory

[storm osprey]

youve never seen my beard at its full potential

[supple bane]

ok so

my artistic skills are lacking

[storm osprey]

im not pink

[supple bane]

you are now

[storm osprey]

where the fuck are my eyebrows?!

[supple bane]

errr

happy?

[prime jasper]

lmao

#583908866002255884

[supple bane]

dont you get talking killa, or ill have to do a portrait of you

[storm osprey]

well, that guy isnt happy but its good enough

[supple bane]

heheh

[storm osprey]

can you add stuff to starboard by reacting outside of art channels?

[molten coral]

Dunno

[mild bough]

wowowowow

new pfp @supple bane?

[supple bane]

wdym?

[mild bough]

wait

i can see you had blue standard pfp

[supple bane]

no?

i think youre going crazy m8

[mild bough]

same here

[forest token]

I'm no longer a member of the default discord profile picture gang , one of the members of a discord I am admin in got worried about me

[storm osprey]

lol that pfp is accurate

but not

its great

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg6pz7YTxyA

[supple bane]

did anyone else noticing his cpu idling at 70c ?

80 degrees even

[mild bough]

Is that yay or nay? @supple bane

[supple bane]

what a cpu idling at 80 degrees c ?

nay lol

[mild bough]

how come

like i'd worry

But isn't it like dangerous from 90c and up?

[supple bane]

if its at 80 degrees at 10% load. what do you think it will be at at 100%?

[west willow]

I think 20-30 degrees is normal at idle, depending on the cooler and CPU. Don't even want to know the temps under full load

[supple bane]

with that cpu it will be 35-50 at idle

[mild bough]

oh man

[errant cairn]

Huh PC stuff

Wait

90°C on a PC good lord

[west willow]

On idle, not even under load

[errant cairn]

What the

[mild bough]

i don't see

how is that even possible

[storm osprey]

90c isnt that bad for most temps

[mild bough]

if it is in idle

[storm osprey]

idle yea it is though

[supple bane]

he had a 240mm aio

nzxt

[mild bough]

what that

brotha explain

[supple bane]

probs forgot to put thermal paste on or something

[storm osprey]

but manufacturers normally say up to 100c is fine

err, "safe"

[west willow]

under load

and it starts throttling heavily at that point

[errant cairn]

Sorround your PC in ice

Or use a water cooling system

Pump cold water

[west willow]

I think that guy has water cooling, like granty said, there must be something wrong.

[molten coral]

I've this one on my discord for like a week now and I can't figure out why

[prime jasper]

Friend requests?

[molten bramble]

Coke dealer wants their money @molten coral

[supple bane]

get on my level nacho

[molten coral]

that would drive me insane tbh

[errant cairn]

I had 13 pings before

Not much

Had a friend with over 7k pings

[molten bramble]

[storm osprey]

i keep my discord clean of mentions 100%

hell i even try to keep the "new message" white tick clean too

[mild bough]

same

Keeping clear of the white dots are impossible in servers like wonderland and such tho

[crude creek]

audio raytracing a thing?

[lofty light]

I mean kinda

[supple bane]

I have an Interesting issue, a row of USB 3.0 on my motherboard rear io are all dead. No power or data. In device manager I'm getting an error message. Windows has stopped this device code 43 or sommot like that. I've tried googling it but the answers are very vague. I'm pretty sure i need to update my chipset drive but I dont know how I would do that. Does anyone know?

[stoic bridge]

contact the mainboard manufacturer

[supple bane]

not a bad idea tof

[river wyvern]

@supple bane Boot it into safe mode

Then plug in yourphone, if it charges then those ports are indeed alive, otherwise theyre dead

[supple bane]

i know the ports work, its a driver issue

[lofty light]

Yeah you should be able to go to the website for the mobo and they'll have the download for the chipset 99% of the time

[west willow]

If it's for a motherboard with an AMD chipset, you will find the latest chipset drivers here: https://www.amd.com/en/support Select chipset and the exact socket and series you have. Sometimes you will need to remove everything related to the chipset in the AMD folder on the boot drive, if the install process hangs or fails. For intel it should be here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/ but I don't know the exact process. If you want to find the factory chipset (or the BIOS), you need to go to the website of the motherboard manufacturer.

[supple bane]

thanks

it worked

[limpid void]

can someone help all the pictures in the menu are blacked out so idk what im buying or looking at please @ me or DM me

[sullen finch]

anyone having issues connecting to BFV?

It was working fine last night but now its saying it cant connect to the servers

[dense marten]

Yeah, Origin seems to be down. I cant even login

[sullen finch]

okay its not just me then

Thanks @dense marten

[dense marten]

yw 🙂

[quick locust]

Down for me too.

[unkempt crypt]

me too

[pallid silo]

I have 2 pcs

Gaming: 3700x vega64
Streaming: 1700 1650s

I have 2 coolers the one that comes with the 3700x and the noctua nh15

Obviously the streaming pc will be under more stress (cpu wise) compared to the gaming one. So my question is what cooler should I use for each system? I'm gonna overclock 1700 to 3.7ghz and 1.25 volts

Noctua and the 3700x standard cooler

[prime jasper]

easy, put the noctua on the 3700x and the other cooler on the 1700

[supple bane]

they have the same tdp, so honestly i would say put the nh15 on which ever is at a higher load

[quick locust]

EA posted on twitter that they have server issues

[crude creek]

does anyone here know if theres like a reddit or something where people can buy instore microcenter deals and ship it to you

[prime jasper]

theres a pcpartswap subreddit I think

[forest token]

https://twitter.com/EAHelp/status/1233077043266498561 EA server issues

[storm osprey]

it has to be a hell of a deal for shipping costs to not basically wash away the savings

[pallid silo]

@supple bane well gaming uses like 30% usage streaming uses like 40-70%

@prime jasper awesome :) will the 3700x stock cooler be able to handle a 1700 OC

[prime jasper]

easily

[pallid silo]

Awesome!! ^-^ 3.7ghz :p

1650s just come time to build streaming pc

Whay software should I use to stress test my overclock

[prime jasper]

prime95

cinebench 20 is good too

[pallid silo]

Awesome! :D so prime95 cinebench and Occt

How long should I run the tests for

[prime jasper]

cinebench takes a few minutes typically

itll freeze/crash if you fail

prime95 runs as long as you allow it, but will throw error or crash all the same

[pallid silo]

Awesome! :) 12 hour test?

[prime jasper]

lmao yeah sure knock yourself out

aint my power bill

[pallid silo]

I use university electric xd

[storm osprey]

isnt the standard test like 3 hours?

[prime jasper]

Will this run bfv? Acer Nitro 5 AN515-42-R5ED Gaming Laptop, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, AMD Radeon RX 560X Graphics, 15.6" Full HD IPS Display, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 Home & Protective Sleeve https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGC7DYP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4PewEb6ZV5R72

With 8 gigs extra ram

For 16

[crude creek]

no