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west willow
opaque saddle
Not many people have large spaces for them to put an Ultrawide monitor on their desk
west willow
Including me
supple bane
I dont think I'll ever get an ultra wide, I csny justify it. I'd rather 2x27" which is what I've got now
One 1440p 144hz for gaming and one 1080p 60hz for a secondary
Imo that's the optimal monitor setup
molten coral
Looks clean
supple bane
@molten coral do you play games at full ultra wide or just a 16x9 box in the middle ?
molten coral
Full ultra wide
supple bane
Does it not take a crap on your fps?
molten coral
Yeah it does but with a 2080ti it's fine
molten coral
Although i've to say that in games like BFV I have to go to medium settings to have good fps
But it doesn't really bother me
supple bane
Yeah, I could understand an ultra wide for someone playing games to be immersed and for the visuals, but Its not the best for competitive players
molten coral
I also use it a lot for work, excel sheets, word, info from the web, e-mail open etc
supple bane
Mm
molten coral
I also use it a lot for work, excel sheets, word, info from the web, e-mail open etc
summer comet
@supple bane Thats a dope set up bro
supple bane
I try 
lofty light
If you get ultrawide odds are you'll need to make one of your side monitors vertical to fit them all
But it's 10000% worth it
forest token
o no, I put my second monitor vertical and I think I like it
lofty light
I've gotten used to it too
prime jasper
I figured out this GPU, it is the overclock version so it needs a bigger PSU than I have
quick locust
i can't post images yet but i just use a single 24 inch
desk kinda too small for multi monitor, but i could do 27 inch eventually maybe
lofty light
I mean if you're doing one monitor you could even do ultrawide, just have a lot hanging off the sides
quick locust
the desk has several "floors" with a metal plate on each side of the desk
hm but I could fit one maybe
ashen flax
dam
i still use 15 inch monitor with gt 730
and get lovely 40fps 50% screen resolution
quick locust
insert jpeg meme
ashen ether
@ashen flax having the best gamer experience
west willow
The true 40fps 540p experience indeed
opaque saddle
sounds like using the old style 5:4 or 4:3 monitor
west willow
Probably, but we don't know the resolution anyway, so I just picked a random one.
quick locust
jpeg quality
west willow
That's for sure
sinful mantle
@ashen ether hans why do you come into squad voice rooms and do not talk and just leave hastily when addressed?...not coming down on you, just curious.
storm osprey
liar
ashen ether
@sinful mantle you mean, that time you were talking about highways? Philadelphia and stuff
somber tendon
My BFV just crashed to desktop with no error, i have 1 mdmp file inside my Battlefield V Crash Dump folder. Any kind soul or any BFV moderators or Devs of this channel help me analyse my mdmp file 😦
PM me if you can help. Thank you for reading.
limpid void
can anyone help me in my BFV menu the pictures are blacked out and I dont know why and I get low frames and I watch videos with people with the same specs and get like 60-70 and it keeps freezing
please PM if you have a solution
opaque saddle
supple bane
I didn't
quick locust
gloomy gyro
Can I run bf5 on 60fps with i5 6402P and a RX470 (8gb vram) and 8 gb RAM?
It says a rx560 is required
But I saw videos of people using rx 470
But the RX470 seems to be more powerful on benchmarks 🤔
gloomy gyro
Im not very good in those things
quick locust
in bfv
quick locust
same thing
gloomy gyro
And I have a 60hz 1080p monitor
Wouldnt the CPU be too weak?
I am just making sure I can run it properly before buying
quick locust
4 core 4 thread hm
pallid basin
sly tundra
I had to buy more ram 8gb and than bf5 work for me
quick locust
the cpu should be ok, but you'd want a better one eventually
you might get stuttering sometimes
gloomy gyro
I will probably buy BF5, after all, I will upgrade my PC in a few months
gloomy gyro
Low enough to get 60fps
sly tundra
I have gaming notebook xp
gloomy gyro
Thats all that matters to me
sly tundra
I have 40 70 on low with ultra textures
gloomy gyro
Normally the RX 470 with 8GB or vram does pretty well
The i5 6402P CPU is the weaker part I think
tired temple
@gloomy gyro I have a 470 as a spare card and a few weeks ago until I upgraded the 470 on low was doing about 60-80 on campaign and 80-100 on milultiplayer
gloomy gyro
Thats good enough, I will be upgrading soon too
tired temple
Ok
gloomy gyro
What card do you have now?
quick locust
yeah his gpu is fine, cpu is a bit on the weaker side though
tired temple
@gloomy gyrome
gloomy gyro
Yeah
gloomy gyro
My upgrading will be a new pc, this one will still be used
tired temple
OK what gpu r u planing to get
gloomy gyro
I just dont know what to pick, I would like the PC to be below 900€
I was thinking about the RTX2060
Or the RX 5700
gloomy gyro
And a ryzen 5 2600x
quick locust
seems fine
tired temple
Yh i think that's a lot better
gloomy gyro
The 'x' is only 5€ more expensive than the standart version
Btw will 8gb ram be fine in my current system for low settings?
tired temple
I think so
gloomy gyro
And I am on windows 7
tired temple
Ok
@gloomy gyro what I would do is if your planing to run games like bfv and have other applications open would go and get 16gb of ram
gloomy gyro
On the new build I will definitely get 16gb
tired temple
Yh that would be best
gloomy gyro
Back in 2016, when I built this PC, 8GB was fine
gloomy gyro
And this CPU is overclockable, would that make a difference
Well, I am building it with some help
gloomy gyro
Im talking about the i5 I have
tired temple
@gloomy gyro a little difference
supple bane
@quick locust @gloomy gyro you can get a 2600x to 4.1 ghz with a decent cooler. that will be a little boost
tired temple
Yh
quick locust
well yeah, but it's not too much
tired temple
What cooler do you have for the cpu
gloomy gyro
In the intel page it says with turbo boost the max frequency is 3.4 ghz
The one I got on the box
tired temple
Is 3.4ghz the max u can overclock it
gloomy gyro
It says so in the intel page
Its turbo boost, apparently its not the same as overclocking
tired temple
And what ghz u running now
gloomy gyro
2.8
tired temple
What I say is do some research and see which is best to overclock it to
If your using the stock cooler don't oc it too much
gloomy gyro
Yeah, and it might help the longevity of the CPU
tired temple
But its ur decision
gloomy gyro
Even though its already 5 years old
tired temple
Yh
supple bane
@gloomy gyro what cpu is it ?
tired temple
I would put it to like 2.9 or 3
gloomy gyro
i5 6402P
gloomy gyro
Its not overclocking, its turbo boost
supple bane
yeah you cant change a turbo boost
gloomy gyro
Hmm
quick locust
it just follows factory settings
supple bane
turbo is just what speed the chip will reach on its own
thats not something you can change
gloomy gyro
Ok
quick locust
all ryzen can OC tho (except laptops)
gloomy gyro
All right then
idle venture
trying to place a config and i dont have a settings folder in the game directory
supple bane
what do you plan to achieve by doing this ? 
idle venture
making the game run better with advanced settings
supple bane
just change them in game lol
idle venture
configs change values outside of the game and do a better effect at changing the amount of fps you get G R A N T
Me is no like grant
supple bane
i can assure you. changing those settings will have very minimal effects on the games performance. hence why dice didnt bother making it an option you can change in game
and my name isnt grant
idle venture
it does make a difference
quick locust
just use custom settings in game
gloomy gyro
Apparently I last updated my windows 7 in 2017. Cool
quick locust
🙃
idle venture
@supple bane it changes the values more than the ingame its allowed and it gives people around 30 extra fps WHICH I NEED
quick locust
What's your specs
idle venture
i can run battlefront 2 perfectly everything is above min exept cpu
WHERE CAN I FIND THE DAMN SETTINGS FOLDER REEEEEEEEEEEE
tired temple
@idle venture what components do you have for your pc
tired temple
@idle venture ok
gloomy gyro
Wow, this game made me realize I have 2018 gpu drivers
How big is the download for this game? It says it needs 50gb, but the download should be less
idle venture
its 80
gloomy gyro
Oh ok. Thats like 20 hours of downloading for me 😀
tired temple
@gloomy gyro it was only 2 hours for me
jade plank
need some help
moved bfv from my hdd to my newly installed nvme
made origin find the game on the ssd and then it crashes
some1 knows how to solve that problem?
austere turtle
jade plank
some1 knows how to solve that problem?
i just reinstall it
storm osprey
anyone buying strix editions are normally throwing money away, now its even worse
west willow
I was going to say something, but you already perfectly summed it up.
storm osprey
ive always been a "spend 20 more than msrp at most" kind of person
supple bane
wait fill me in. in america, are reference models the cheapest ?
storm osprey
typically
well, iirc nvidia founders editions were more expensive than some AIB gpus
supple bane
not here their not lol
storm osprey
reference cards are more expensive than AIB?
supple bane
by a long shot
storm osprey
wtf
supple bane
the reference 5700xt is around the same price as the gigabyte gaming oc
storm osprey
so a blower style 5700xt cost more than an AIB dual fan gpu?
supple bane
more than a triple fan in some cases
storm osprey
ehhh that might be due to supply and demand
supple bane
well my best guess is that reference models are the only ones manufactured in the US, shipping fees and all
but they might not be made in the US
storm osprey
🤷
west willow
Only the heatsink + cooler differ across AIBs, although some brands use custom PCBs as well. Almost all of these parts are produced in Taiwan and/or China. These are almost always better on AIB cards (some problematic ones excluded), so the reference cards are basically obsolete at this point. Especially considering the prices are so close.
latent light
founders edition Nvidia GPUs aren't bad anymore
I used to only recommend them if you were gonna put a waterblock on them, now they don't use the blower fans anymore
west willow
Talking about the AMD RX5700XT specifically. Those reference models still use blower fans.
You're right about the nvidea rtx series though.
latent light
AIBs also use different MOSFETs, chokes, capacitors, memory modules, ect.
west willow
Yeah, basically everything can be different except the GPU itself, but the difference is often pretty small. (kind of meant that with custom PCBs)
latent light
i9-9900T is locked to 35 watts yet still costs $440, performance similar to Ryzen 7 2700
I think lower power CPUs should cost way less because it's essentially a bad bin
prime jasper
those are only really used in SFF business machines so the price is all bundled up in bulk deals anyway
molten coral
well F to my HDD
lethal prism
Hey, I just bought the RX 5700 XT and now my crashes every now and then...
Can someone help?
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lethal prism
okay, how do you install the old version?
west willow
@lethal prism What drivers are you on now?
west willow
On BFV I used to have frequent crashes on 19.12.2 and after. They are gone on the newest for me, but try rolling back to this driver (19.12.1): https://www.amd.com/en/support/previous-drivers/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt
lethal prism
thanks, I will try
west willow
Scroll down and you should find it
lethal prism
I am downloading it rn
west willow
Used to be crash free for me, hope it's the same for you.
lethal prism
Kinda annoying that I have to worry about which driver I have... Thats the only thing I hate about Amd
storm osprey
pobody nerfect
sinful mantle
you should aslways read the notes to see what the driver addresses
storm osprey
you should always wait a week or so to download drivers to see of issues
sinful mantle
sometimes the latest isnt for your particular game
im still using a two+ year old driver because theres no issues with it
west willow
Yeah, I need to switch sometimes, because some games run bad on the newest drivers. Especially older titles.
sinful mantle
exactly
the old proverb..."if it aint broken, don't fix it"
i know dudes that get the latest drivers everytime just for the fuck it
west willow
With nvidea you can mostly get away with it, but always wait a bit to be sure. If you play mostly older titles you don't even need the newest drivers.
sinful mantle
yep very true
used to be with nvidea you had the manually delete the old drivers before loading new ones
its way too easy now....lol
west willow
Still do that with AMD sometimes tbh, just to make sure the issue doesn't come from some leftover driver. (for both updating or rolling back)
sinful mantle
yeah i would too i guess but its been a long time since ive gotten new drivers
lethal prism
actually seems to work now! thanks alot
west willow
no problem
storm osprey
tech chat to the rescue
thankfully choco took over the rolling back process, ive never actually done that
west willow
It's part of the AMD experience :p
sinful mantle
i was always an AMD fan boy until recently
west willow
The RX5700XT is my first AMD card actually
latent light
RX 5700XT has issues with using hardware acceleration in apps, especially Chrome and Discord @lethal prism
lethal prism
already had tried to close everything. I think it actually was a problem because of the newest driver.
storm osprey
@sinful mantle isnt recently the reason to be a fanboy?
latent light
one thing you can do is just use a driver that wasn't made since the 2020 version of Adrenalin drivers
so 19.12.1 or older
sinful mantle
no i mean my last card was my first nvidea card ever
storm osprey
swapped at the wrong time bucko
west willow
opposite for me
storm osprey
unless you got a 2080S
sinful mantle
its a GTX 960 so i did okay
storm osprey
5600xt will be my first amd gpu
sinful mantle
still viable
storm osprey
region zen?
west willow
my previous one was a 950
west willow
Best thing to do, if you don't need an upgrade right now
storm osprey
my tv supports freesync and only has hdmi, so 5600xt it is
latent light
a lot of retailers that test RMA'd AMD cards say they can't replicate the same problems customers have
storm osprey
@latent light yea im starting to wonder if people have nvidia drivers with amd drivers and are having problems with that
west willow
Not cleaning the drivers properly after upgrading
storm osprey
which is sad if its user error for amd gpus and they are returning/swearing amd off
youtubers are saying they dont have any issues themselves
west willow
Meanwhile they could've fixed it with DDU in a few minutes
latent light
Intel almost deleted support of Nvidia graphics cards from their compatibility one time when they got into a disagreement over a decade ago lol
that would of sucked
storm osprey
tbf, i didnt know about DDU till recently (from reading about these problems), and im fairly knowledgeable about this stuff, at least compared to most
so i cant imagine how many people have themselves to blame
west willow
In normal situations, you don't need to wipe drivers completely though so you could go months to years without needing it. Especially with geforce experience doing everything for you if you're on nvidea.
storm osprey
im gonna clean install just because
the only thing on this pc is games so ill just redownload
latent light
2008-2009, NVIDIA sold chips that had a critical flaw, where the GPU would basically detach itself from the package/substrate. This was later coined as “bumpgate”. Basically, NVIDIA changed the material used to connect the GPU die and substrate, which had better properties overall, but had the downside of having lower conductivity, meaning you need more of them to supply adequate power to the chip. NVIDIA didn't see this coming, meaning these connections, called bumps, had a tendency to expand more than expected under load, due to thermal expansion. This is obviously not good on its own, but NVIDIA also used a very stiff underfill under their chips, which didn't have appropriate deformation to absorb this bump expansion. This meant that these critical connections had a tendency to simply break in half, severing electrical connections. All this meant that these GPUs could have a failure rate of up to 40%. This problem affected all NVIDIA 65nm and 55nm parts, so all the Tesla architecture cards.
^probably the worst time Nvidia ever had
this is also the reason Apple stopped using Nvidia because this situation was made worse when Nvidia sued Apple, Dell and HP, blaming them for the high failure rates
coarse nimbus
sounds similar to when apple stopped putting the packing behind some chip in the phone, so it would just come loose over time 
so when doing the recall on the phones all they needed to do was pump in a little bit of the expanding foam backing shit they had previously used on all their other phones..oof
molten coral
latent light
@lofty light Node 202 or Silverstone ML08?
lofty light
Neither
latent light
going for slim case, one that fits in a backpack
both of those are about the same size of an Xbox One lol
lofty light
My sis has a htpc in a ML08 that we have spare now but mine is a GEEEK A30
Tbh i really like the ML08
But when you get a PC half the size it's hard to pass up
latent light
I'd probably use the Asrock deskmini once Ryzen comes out with new APUs
molten bramble
lofty light
I was real excited for the STX motherboards
latent light
get a PC so small you use a laptop charging cable to power it
sinful mantle
NZXT H200i?
latent light
H200i is still as wide as any regular ATX case
lofty light
Tbh I'm still interested in this thing https://www.ple.com.au/Products/631456/Intel-NUC-Gen8-Hades-Canyon-i7-Barebones-VR-Gaming-Mini-PC
Completely unable to upgrade but it's a nifty piece of tech
latent light
that RX Vega M GH graphics chip in that NUC is actually pretty good
sinful mantle
what kind of graphics card allows for that?
lofty light
But I do reccomend this for a mini case btw https://www.geeekstore.com/shop/geeek-a30-mini-itx-case/
latent light
PSU?
lofty light
Oh, well that blurb says more than I saw
It has a special PSU, like a mini server one
I can't recall the form factor
latent light
those are hazardous
lofty light
Mine hasn't killed me yet 🤷
latent light
heard many stories of small PSUs catching on fire
lofty light
Worst bit is the fan on it has a dead bearing so it clicks
sinful mantle
get a bigger backpack?
sinful mantle
lofty light
I mean you could get this too https://www.zotac.com/us/page/vr-go-backpack-pc
latent light
1650Ti is gonna come soon, performance between the 1650 and 1650 Super at 75 watts
it's just a 1650 with GDDR6
memory bandwidth is 12 Gbps, whereas the current GDDR5 model has only 8 Gbps
lofty light
Alternatively this is what the steam machines turned into https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/magnus-en72080v-barebone
Zotac is great at making tiny computers and parts, but they suck tbh
latent light
Zotac has high RMA count for GPUs
stray needle
Should i retire LGA 775 Q9650 in 2020?
Use it only as media station at my second house
lofty light
That's only 12 years old, just into high school
@latent light btw I googled around and the flex psu I have is a custom Delta one from the server market so it should be fine
latent light
what wattage is it
stray needle
Q9650 is a quad-core. Maybe not wise yet. 775 equipped with SSD is still smooth
@latent light i'm happy to say that
Ebay returned money for the faulty CPU
latent light
lol
gonna try to get another one?
tbh the 6950X should be $100 at most
at this point
stray needle
5960X is still working suffice
better spend money on Nintendo 64 for 150 dollar
was my first console
latent light
lol
stray needle
no wait
it's more wise to buy nintendo 64 usb stick instead right
N64 USB with emulator should be the same
lofty light
I'd love to get a 6950X tbh, my server is running off my old 5820K
stray needle
My impression was about 15-20% performance boost over the 5960X
6950X had scratches at cpu pins
stray needle
but OC sweet spot for 6950X is lower than 5960X
lofty light
Fair, for multitasking though
Wanna run a Minecraft server with as many peeps as possible off mine
stray needle
The seller completely ignored that when i countered him about it. I provided several pictures, yet he said i was the cause because i OC'ed
idk
do the lower core speed nullify more cores?
for example 6950X may reach 4.3GHz stable 10 core vs 5960X at 4.5GHz 8 core.
latent light
you're less likely to hit a higher clock speed with more cores
less cores means better overclock
stray needle
I'd rather spend the money on something newer
hanging on semi-old hardware ain't fun in the long run
latent light
Ryzen 9 3900X and a X570 motherboard together should run up about $700
might want faster ram though
you probably got that early DDR4 batches
2133 MHz at CL17 timings
lmao
stray needle
Anyway, was the rumors about 2080 Ti Super false?
latent light
rumor so no way of knowing if it's true or false
latent light
but I'm sure there's a 2080 Ti Super waiting
stray needle
someone told me 2x 2080 Super OC equals about 1.5x in 2080 Ti in performance
latent light
that 2077 card is just a 2080Ti with Cyberpunk 2077 theme on it
don't buy 2 GPUs ever
ever
latent light
you'll face a lot of problems in games with multiple graphics cards
stray needle
don't devs care about it longer?
latent light
using more than 1 GPU can cause stuttering, artifacting, black screens, driver crashes, games not starting, ect.
stray needle
Battlefield 5 scales horribly with nvlink
perhaps some older games can benefit from nvlink?
in that case one card is suffice
lofty light
SLI looks great but that's about the end of the perks of it
Very few games support it, and even less support it to any real extent
Trust me, I used to have it back in the day, was so damn pretty
I'm thinking I'll sell some old parts, mod my A30 and buy a 2070 super for it to prep for a new VR kit at one point
Sis'll be happy as she can run monster hunter better on it as a result
river wyvern
Who even switch to play zelda
lofty light
@opaque saddle nope, she's a monster hunter/Pokemon player normally
mild bough
timber sundial
Q-Q i cant connect to online bfv.... wat happen to my wifi ??? x.x
prime jasper
all you gotta do is restart
quick locust
well i know but
it shouldnt break apart so fast
especially windows search and windows file manager does so you have to keep restarting the services
prime jasper
so fast? how fast
quick locust
8-10 hrs
i believe
i couldnt imagine running win 10 on a server, dunno how linus deals with this stupidity
prime jasper
probably because you have the exception, not the norm
server 2016 works quite well at my job
quick locust
yeah but the consumer version
they fired their QA team
they broke the search function for some days cause of some bing issues recently
storm osprey
so i compared my ps4 pro original, to my friends ps4 pro god of war edition and his ps4 pro was WAAAAAY quieter
cant even find a fan replacement atm so im just gonna open it all up and clean it and replace thermal paste/pads
opaque saddle
i know people do drill a few holes onto the surface of the PS4 and put a case fan on top of it to get more air into the cooling systems
storm osprey
i currently have my ps4 pro with the top completely off
opaque saddle
that can be easily done with USB modification
storm osprey
im probably gonna take it apart today and replace paste and clean it
opaque saddle
gl
cant be bothered to touch my ps4 coz i dont wanna kill it
btw i got G sync working on my pc
spent 4 hours for the return to the computer hardware store to get a replacement DP cable
storm osprey
yea i dont want to kill it either, but at the same time i avoid playing games on it because its so loud
opaque saddle
the technician tested my "brand new off the shelf" cable. RMA confirmed
west willow
@opaque saddle Was it really just the cable?
storm osprey
at least it was that simple, and at the same time how frustrating
opaque saddle
but not DP cable so i assumed that was the cable issues
however i didnt have another DP cable to test it so i made a big guess
west willow
Imagine if the monitor was faulty instead, at least it's simply a new cable now.
storm osprey
is it a new monitor?
what do you do when the cable for the monitor is bad? do you get a whole new unit
west willow
My guess is that they would just sent a replacement cable
opaque saddle
Yeah a new free sync monitor. I bought the DP cable to run g sync (with adaptive sync) on it
It’s the viewsonic vx2758
Like a stripped down version of the Gigabyte Aorus AD27QD.
Same as I thought. But the monitor doesn’t come with DP cable. Only the HDMI cable is provided. I paid for 12 bucks for the DP cable along with the pick up order.
obsidian narwhal
hab ne frage
storm osprey
right?
obsidian narwhal
i have a question
storm osprey
ok
obsidian narwhal
play you bt5
storm osprey
yes
obsidian narwhal
what craphikscard do you use ?
storm osprey
gtx 1080
obsidian narwhal
ok
i bought bt5 2 hour ago and my graphicscard is too bad ind i serch for a guy that can send me his graphicscardsettings
i have a gtx 1050
storm osprey
1050 is pretty bad
prime jasper
yeah thats not gonna cut it
obsidian narwhal
yes but i cant change it
storm osprey
return bfv
storm osprey
where did you get the game?
obsidian narwhal
origin
storm osprey
!!specs
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storm osprey
only thing i can think of
obsidian narwhal
ok thx
safe fiber
Can anyone help me
My battlefield 1 audio is messed up
it is just high pitch and crackly and weird
storm osprey
ONLY bf1?
safe fiber
idk its the only battlefield game i own at the moment
forest token
but are other games doing it
storm osprey
or sound
left grove
try reinstalling maybe
left grove
safe fiber
never again
storm osprey
verify files
exit game, go to origin, right click and there should be something about checking the files
topaz pulsar
hey uh
nothing related to BF but
can someone tell me how to change input on a Philips model 32PF7331/12 tv
Without a remote
storm osprey
what a peculiar question
topaz pulsar
cuz i messed up and i cant find a way to change it back
supple bane
have you checked behind the sofa?
topaz pulsar
No i mean this TV is 8 years old and the remote is long gone
Been trying to find a way to change input for the past 2 hours
storm osprey
lol wtf
topaz pulsar
Another solution for me would be to get a new monitor and connect my PS4 to that
storm osprey
there you go
topaz pulsar
but damn if only i had a existent budget
storm osprey
sounds like youre due for an upgrade
supple bane
ive heard there are apps you can download on your phone
i dont know if they work or not tho
topaz pulsar
HAH
nah
this isnt a Smart TV sadly
Else this issue wouldve been resolved long ago
And my phone doesnt have a IR blaster
because Apple
supple bane
what are you trying to achieve exactly ?
storm osprey
change input on tv
left grove
supple bane
no ik that dip shit. like are you stuck on the cable tv and want to go to hdmi, are you stuck on hdmi and want to go to cable tv,
topaz pulsar
Stuck on cable and want to go on HDMI
Probably
No idea
I only have a power line on it and no other cables
supple bane
have you done it with the thing on the other end of the hdmi turned on ?
topaz pulsar
ya
storm osprey
have you tried asserting your dominance?
supple bane
idk man
topaz pulsar
Let me try it again
supple bane
youve got two options
get an upgrade
or bully the tv into changing
maybe black mailing it
topaz pulsar
Or i can get a universal remote
left grove
threaten it with arson
supple bane
feed it cookies and it might change for you out of love
i dont think there is anything you can do
have you tried googling it ?
storm osprey
you cant cycle through the "programs" until it goes to inputs?
storm osprey
well try it
topaz pulsar
Time to scroll through 99 channels of emptiness
storm osprey
yep
topaz pulsar
didnt do jack
storm osprey
who is jack?
supple bane
yo moma
topaz pulsar
Last few only showed ‘EXT 1’ ‘EXT 2’ ‘EXT 3’
supple bane
moma jack
topaz pulsar
Well shit i guess its really either upgrade or buy a remote huh
supple bane
yarp
storm osprey
what are EXT 1/2/3?
get hdmi to whatever the fuck that is converter
or dont play in hd and use the pr pb y connections if ext4 was an option
topaz pulsar
Probably just gonna buy a new monitor
There are a few for sale at my internship for 25euros each
prime jasper
does anyone know how to fix battlefield 1 from not starting
for me i am getting an infinite loading screen when ever i start the game
prime jasper
Anyone willing to help me on something?
storm osprey
ye
prime jasper
@storm osprey which do you recommend? Dell Inspiron Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit, Blue LED, Model Number: i5676-A696Blu https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.bduEb5GR47ZM
Tis is 800 bucks, used to be 620 I would have to wait for it to go down
Or Gaming Desktop - RYZEN 5 1500X 3.5GHz, GTX 1060 6GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4 Memory, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, WiFi, VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073DBXSK5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1bduEb5NH5PXX
This 699
Usd
storm osprey
both are a bit.. funky
and personally i always advise against pre builts
i will put a build together for you if you are open to learning to build (its honestly not that hard
but to answer the question, PERSONALLY i would get the dell for 800 bucks
2700x is way better than the 1500x
the 1060 and 580 are pretty close to performance to eachother
latent light
Ryzen 7 2700 system is more future proof
all you gotta do to upgrade it in the future is put a new graphics card in it lol
1500X has half the core and thread count
latent light
they better put dual channel RAM in that PC
if it's just a single 16GB stick, you're gonna miss out on a ton of performance
two 8GB sticks is much better
molten bramble
@storm osprey EXT 1/2/3 look like SCAT I/O, more commonly used in EU.
Lot of the "cable" programming over there comes through that interface from the box.
coarse nimbus
'leak' aka someone at intel hitting upload on purpose 
latent light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UniFmPj1cs @lofty light
latent light
this is why we need to keep increasing core counts in mainstream CPUs
so devs can create games with more realistic physics
opaque saddle
If they can managed to fully utilised all cores
prime jasper
@storm osprey SCART connectors.
sinful mantle
hey I'm all about that!
latent light
8-core mobile APU with 24 Navi compute units, all in a 15W TDP
sinful mantle
APU's are a great inovation as is
latent light
I just can't see an APU performing at RX 580/5500XT levels within a 15W power limit lol
that's real magic
sinful mantle
i believe in the future
4300 mhz ram compatable
24 compute units....lol
whats intel gonna do now?
storm osprey
not sure if i should get 5600xt, 5700, or 5700xt
latent light
usually the 5700 goes on sale for $300
storm osprey
only buying through amazon because of gift cards
opaque saddle
better spend that money on something else.
its unlike the price from Amazon gets cheaper than local pc store, unless you use bought it via some sort of cashback
if you have to get it from amazon, check out if you can pick the 3rd parties local computer parts retailers
opaque saddle
i usually get stuff if they have cash back events on
this is how much i have saved so far. mostly from amazon
opaque saddle
no
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I must mention it once more time. this isnt ads. if you have to make a purchase from amazon. this way can be cheaper with delivery services
mild bough
Oh thats neat
prime jasper
https://youtu.be/yTPDR2tHH5g
Those who using 64gb ram please suicide
supple bane
64GB of ram has its uses @prime jasper
any workstation subject will use more than 64gb of ram
prime jasper
R u sure
supple bane
a lot of video editing stations have 128gb of ram
prime jasper
For gamers 12gb is enough
supple bane
id go 16 but yeah for gaming 64 is overkill
but what you said about 64gb of ram to start with is false
because that much ram will be needed in some parts of computing
safe fiber
"You have lost connection to the session."
west willow
@supple bane For DDR4, 12gb is a pretty weird amount to buy indeed (likely 3x4gb). It's always better to get an amount that will run completely in dual channel (2,4,...). Only really see 12gb in pre-builts.
supple bane
ik?
west willow
It isn't too long ago people used to say 8gb was enough either.
opaque saddle
i got 32gb of ram coz the game i usually play uses 27GB out of 32GB RAM from the system
opaque saddle
i meant Cities Skylines
opaque saddle
the strongest i9 cant even run Cities Skylines well
i meant for a well built up city
west willow
Cities skylines is probably one of the hardest games to run (memory and CPU wise), despite how it looks. Especially if you mod it.
latent light
GeForce Now has >300ms of input delay
yikes
Nvidia's response to the RX 5950XT
no info on whether that massive die is on 12nm or 7nm
but at that size, 7nm yields would be so low that you couldn't really make a sellable product out of it because they'd only yield a few hundred per month lol
more likely that's still 12nm and I think it could be the 2080Ti Super or maybe just a datacenter GPU
modern flame
@buoyant mesa
sinful mantle
@latent light "GeForce Now has >300ms of input delay" wouldn't that depend on internet speeds?
latent light
well that dude's got 1 Gbps internet
sinful mantle
what about bit rate settings?
latent light
it seems that the lowest latency possible is 300ms
if you play at 30 fps, there's a delay of 9 frames, at 60 fps there's a delay of 18 frames and so on
prime jasper
👍
sinful mantle
hmmm...how the hell is that playable at 300ms latency?
latent light
it's playable in most singleplayer games
prime jasper
@sinful mantlei have a video for you
prime jasper
😱
latent light
hi
prime jasper
Hi
sinful mantle
hes not even connected directly to ethernet.
latent light
Zen3 (Ryzen 4000) is looking to be as big of a jump as Zen2, maybe bigger due to the fact that they're getting rid of the 4-core CCX design and making pure 8-core chiplets and unifying L3 cache on each chiplet is gonna make a massive improvement for core communication and cache/memory latency
@sinful mantle he's got a $400 router in every room of the house
sinful mantle
yeah but he says its gotten beter after going straight to router with ethernet'
did you watch the end results?
He optimize his monitor and refresh rate as well as going straight to router...he thinks it's cool now?
and said hes impressed by the service
latent light
still ridiculous amounts of input lag
west willow
133ms is high although more than playable, still that's on internet most people can only dream of.
latent light
I wouldn't be playing an online shooter with that delay
west willow
No, but it's okay for sp I think
sinful mantle
yeah well illbet it gets much better in the future as it is the "whey"....lol
all games will be played ths way after we get our promised 10Gps speeds
west willow
Say that to all to everyone who doesn't have access to fiber (or it's overpriced in their area).
sinful mantle
fiber will be everywhere soon
latent light
you can't really improve that latency, you are literally being physically limited by how far data has to travel in networks and fiber lines
desert bear
Guys, my gpu fan broke down, and my laptop's power switch. It can turn on and everything, but without that fan I am afraid that the gpu will burn, and I don't know how much that switch is necessary. 
2 months without playing bv.
mellow arrow
Hey guys. I need to ask a question from the tech guys. What controller is best for xbox one? My controllers are kinda getting worned out.
latent light
official xbox one controller is the best
mellow arrow
Okay. I heard that Elite Controllers are good. But idk.
latent light
the cheaper ones you see not made by Microsoft usually have cheap analog sticks and left/right bumpers
mellow arrow
👌
sinful mantle
@desert bear replace the fan?
latent light
@desert bear GPU will throttle itself to prevent from burning, but without a fan it's gonna throttle the performance a ton
sinful mantle
get your hands dirty an open that sukka up!
warped tinsel
@sinful mantle 
latent light
People wanting RX 5900XT to be way more powerful than the 2080Ti but don't realize that every CPU currently in the market will bottleneck it unless you're playing at high resolution
even the i9-9900K can bottleneck the 2080Ti in some games at 1080p
sinful mantle
I'm good with my FX 8350 and my GTX 960
ill update when bf6 comes out...we all will have to
anyone buying over priced cards and cpus now will regret it then...imo
latent light
Remember that unidentified Radeon GPU leak in that VR benchmark that had 17% higher score than the highest scoring 2080Ti and 40% higher than the average 2080Ti?
That was a real confirmed benchmark
sinful mantle
check this little guy out: https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-003W-00072
thinking about getting it for sling TV
4.33 x 1.53 x 0.47 inches
safe fiber
can anyone help me with the constant disconnection from sessions
@ me if u can
or dm
storm osprey
go wired
safe fiber
wdym
i cant even join games
it says i got disconnected whenever i try to join a game
helllppppppp
safe fiber
can someone help me
with the disconnectiojn
nice, not being able to play a game
due to shitty issues that i cant do anything about
like audio fuckups and being disconnected if i try to join a game
safe fiber
trash game
storm osprey
what is your nat type?
storm osprey
uhhh find out your ip and type that in
safe fiber
ill check how to check my nat type
karmic cave
Yea
storm osprey
errrr the prefered nat type USED to be 2
safe fiber
ok
karmic cave
Yea it should be open
safe fiber
ok
storm osprey
i havent looked this up in years so i dont remember. i used to play games that had problems with internet and learned my nat type should be 2 and ever since i never had problems
safe fiber
dont understand where i change it
come to general and help me
im streaming
guess not
but i cant join any game ffs
waste of money this game si
is
storm osprey
you type your ip into a browser, normally log into your routers ui and change it somewhere in there
forest token
so look up your router ip
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supple bane
This is your best bet
Have you tried the basics ?
Repairing game files
Re-installing
Trying other games and seeing if you have the same problem
Making sure your connection is up to speed at the moment
safe fiber
found out
i had to disable eset firewall and enable base windows firewall and enable both private and public thing
thanks for trying to help guys
forest token
latent light
found a Dell Optiplex with an i5-3570 and 8GB ram for $31 in a bid wit 22 hours left
I wanna see if I can grab it with $50 or less
put a GTX 1650 in it and sell it for profit
latent light
NVIDIA Ampere GPUs will have 2x faster RTX and re-engineered Tensor cores
river wyvern
@latent light How can you find a Low profile 1650
latent light
they exist
although getting a used 1050Ti for ~$100 would be better value
1650 is only 25% faster than a 1050Ti
lofty light
@latent light noice mate
I got a similar optiplex a couple years back but ended up using it just for the CPU
latent light
it's funny that people sell those old locked i7 CPUs for $100 on ebay when you can just get a new Ryzen 5 1600 for like $80
people actually bidding that much for a 7700K
yikes
just get a R5 3600 bro
lofty light
I guess it's a matter of what mobo you have too
latent light
if you own a 7400, 7500 or 7600K, just sell it and the motherboard for like $150 and throw in that $200 and get a B450 MAX and R5 3600
with current sales you could get a X570
latent light
think this is worth?
trying to do the cheapest Mini-ITX build I can find
gonna put a used $60 i7-3770 in it
prime jasper
Hey I tried to wash off my graphics card with water and it stopped working, anyway to fix this?
storm osprey
bag of rice
latent light
capacitors would be dead
sinful mantle
@prime jasper you're joking ...right?
sinful mantle
damn thats a fuckin deal maN
dude might not have been joking about cleanin g his card off with water....i was at a marina when a guy tried to syphone gas out of his boats tanks with a vacuum cleaner.
supple bane
i mean, i just spent 30 minutes trying to figure out why my headphones arent working, just to find they werent plugged in
people do some stupid stuff some times
mild bough
After I overclocked my GPU too much, my monitor went into a weird color. Tried restarting my PC but it still goes black
Like it works for a few seconds
but then boom
Any help?
river wyvern
Man I really want a PC but spending 600-700 just to play games is not appealing
supple bane
you dont have to spend that much
500 at a minimum
which lets be fair, isnt too far off a brand new console and you get so many more features than a console
500 bucks for 1080p 60-80 fps
highest settings
river wyvern
Can it do Davinci Recode?
supple bane
im not sure. but that shouldnt be your main priority for a budget build
nvidia and intel simply dont offer components that fit in that price range
river wyvern
Can it do COD MW and RDR2 well?
river wyvern
Welp maybe one day I will build one and get an decent SSD
supple bane
i have a slightly slower system than that and i play at 1440p without issues
same cpu and slightly slower gpu
river wyvern
A 2nd hand PC with 8400+1070ti for 600 dollars is it worth it?
river wyvern
My local department offer one
supple bane
that seems cheap tho, i wanna see the listing
that card alone is like 400-500 new iirc
frigid gulch
on amazon the 1070 ti is £300
supple bane
oh ok
river wyvern
i5 8400
Ripjaws 16GB 2666Mhz 2x8GB
Asrock B360M Pro4
Crucial MX500 500GB
Gigabyte 1070ti Gaming OC
Andyson Venus 650W
Sound goos?
supple bane
theres nothing wrong with it, no
river wyvern
Oh I need monitor as well
supple bane
those can also be had second hand
river wyvern
Man I wish I could transfer my games to PC
@supple bane Is 1070ti Freesync supported?
mild bough
I don't know how well it will run RDR2
I got RTX 2070, i7-8700 and 16gb RAM. I only manage like 60fps on high settings and it drops to 30/40 in Saint Denis
On 1080p
But RDR2 haven't been optimised yet
supple bane
all cards work with freesync, its just the monitor that has to support it
lofty light
Technically NVIDIA cards need gsync and you can force freesync monitors to run on them but with varying success
latent light
@river wyvern get a GTX 1650 Super instead of an RX 580
Nvidia has a much better encoder
that used PC is probably the best option
just put another SSD in it, preferably a 1TB because there's only 500GB of storage
opaque saddle
@lofty light I did that a few days ago.
I realised the brand new DP cable I bought from the computer hardware store was faulty. Got it Swapped out, and now g sync is working on my free sync monitor with adaptive sync enabled
river wyvern
@latent light Welp thanks
My wallet gotta bow to this PC
weary ruin
So, I´ve been playing bf1 for 4-5 months and I was thinking about buying bfv, my pc doesnt meet the minimum requirements for bf1 or bfv that are literally the same (i think), however I am able to play bf1 at some stable 40-60 fps 1280x720 (low settings and scalling 90%).
I´m not expecting the same framerate as i had in bf1 but something simmilar i guess as the requirements are similar
Did u guys noticed a big fps difference between these two?
My specs:
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Graphics card : NVIDIA Quadro K2100M 2.0 GB (Yes I know it isnt meant for gaming)
Ram: 8.0 GB
supple bane
bfv is much more intensive than bf1,
you would probs have to play at lower than 720p
forest token
you can try a trial of bfv maybe or get origin access for a month for about $5 usd to try bfv
or wait for a sale
forest token
make sure you try enabling and disabling future frame rendering when you try bfv
supple bane
well for him he will want it on
forest token
depends how good the gpu is doing I think, if it can render faster than the target framerate then it should be good
ashen flax
@weary ruin maybe because of the quadro
im running fine with 40fps 50% screen resolution 720p
gt-730 ddr3 version
latent light
how is 720p at 50% resolution scale even playable
I'd rather stab myself in the eyes
I imagine it looks worse than if they ported the game to the Xbox 360 lmao
weary ruin
Yeah i guess that it could actually run
supple bane
why dont you just throw it on and see how it looks instead of imagining haha @latent light
latent light
it will look even worse on my monitor lmao
sinful mantle
@weary ruin buy a cheap older nvidea graphics card (GTX 960?) and get 8 more gigs of matching ram...set your graphics to custom setting (not low) and you're good.
supple bane
He would be better off going second hand amd for that budget, and a new cpu would be needed
weary ruin
yeah but thats the problem i can increase the ram memory but the graphics card its a relly complicated thing because i play on a laptop
something that is weird is that bf1 only takes 3 gb of ram with 1-2 gb free to use, probably in bf v it would be a totally different story
supple bane
Ah
Yeah there ain't much you can do
@sinful mantle that cpu really doesnt cut it for bfv
Well paired with a gpu like that it wouldn't matter, but if it wanted to upgrade (which he cant) it wouldn't be able to keep up
sinful mantle
actually im not that familiar with intel processors (I'v always used AMD) I just thought the i7 was a good line.
supple bane
Yeah but there are a wide range of i7's
Going from like i7 750 all the way up to i7 9700k
An cpu that probs wouldn't even launch with most games and a cpu which is one of the fastest out there
west willow
True, I wouldn't want to run BFV on a first gen i7.
sinful mantle
good info
west willow
It will be playable, but really stuttery.
fast sedge
Yo! I reinstalled my windows on my C: drive.
Battlefield V was installed on D:.
Since Origin was on C: too, I installed it again but now it doesn`t recognizes that Battlefield V is installed... even if the path in the libary is correct
supple bane
Reinstall bf then 
latent light
does $500 sound like a fair price for: Ryzen 5 1600, Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3, 16GB 2666MHz RAM, RX 580 8GB, 256GB NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD, 650W PSU, 24 inch 1080p 60hz monitor
latent light
used R5 1600 for $70, B350 board for $50, 16GB ram for $40, RX 580 for $120, 256GB NVMe for $30, 1TB HDD for $20, 650W PSU for $30, case for $40, 24' monitor for $50
adds up to $450
yeah the cable management is good, PSU is modular and cables are zip-tied in the back
supple bane
If all the stuff adds up to 450 second hand I wouldn't charge more than that
Heck id charge 450 lol
Lowest offer being 400
summer comet
NZXT case?
pallid silo
Is it a good idea to overclock a ryzen 7 1700? I only use the pc for watching netflix and dedicated streaming pc
summer comet
Which is the best overall airflow method (push, pull, or static) for keeping the PC cool? I have the Corsair H100i (2x120mm radiator) so I'll need to mount it either on top or in the front. Also, which cases would you recommend?
coarse nimbus
additional fans along with the 2x120?
latent light
there's also a 120mm exhaust
I find 2 or 3 fans intake and 1 exhaust is the best way
coarse nimbus
was talking about veccs question, id imagine top mounting the rad in that situation is best?
fans pulling through the rad, otherwise wouldnt it be blowing "hot" air into the system from the front
molten coral
latent light
wouldn't use the bottom for exhaust
coarse nimbus
ah top and bottom
molten coral
Bottom is intake
prime jasper
so uh
coarse nimbus
wilhelm should take notes about that case height off the floor
latent light
PS5 and Xbox SX will crush mid-range PCs
molten coral
^
crude creek
how midrannge?
prime jasper
yeah
molten coral
Like you sitting on a pony and the PS5 is driving a ferrari
coarse nimbus
xbox sx? thats what theyre going with
latent light
Xbox SX is supposed to have 2nd gen Navi with 56 compute units and 12 TFlops of raw GPU performance, PS5 will have 1st gen Navi and 9 TFlops
no report on frequencies though
prime jasper
fuck there goes my pc running current games
latent light
both will have a Zen2 based 8 core/16 thread CPU
coarse nimbus
ima just wait for them to actually come out and see the tech reports instead of speculation 
latent light
the CPU and GPU aren't speculation
coarse nimbus
well performance numbers
prime jasper
well fuck my pc can't run the newest games then shit
latent light
only thing we don't really know is the amount of RAM and exactly how much storage they will have, although they will have SSDs