It's beaten a 2080Ti... that's already scheduled to be overtaken sometime this year by a new Nvidia series GPU that's rumored faster and cheaper...? Just from the title, how is that a win for AMD?
#technology
molten bramble
molten bramble
Who said it was cheaper than AMD?
sinful mantle
rumored faster and cheaper...? I quote...but im with you how can it be cheaper??
molten bramble
You've misread the sentence--the subject is the 2080Ti; the new Nvidia GPU is expected to be faster and cheaper than the 2080Ti.
aka Ampere
sinful mantle
oh damn...lol...i thought we were comparing apples and oranges
molten bramble
The title is clickbait is what I am getting at. When you get into the meat of the 'article', it's less extraordinary.
The title also doesn't really speak to what the article is getting at.
sinful mantle
i see
molten bramble
Anyways, that's my critique for the day. The hype is real.
... even when a chip is theoretical.
sinful mantle
i dont know which way im going this time. i was an AMD fan boy but bought an nvidia last time...so im open for whatever is the most efficient price to performance
molten bramble
I mean, I've been with Nvidia since before they owned 3DFX's IP... I'm not going to change now.
lol
sinful mantle
im way to flexable,,never brand loyal.
molten bramble
Yeah, I have a bunch of hardware folks on another server give me shit about that all the time, but in the end, I'll take an Intel and Nvidia any day of the week. I've not had problems with them, even on my Macs, but I have had ample issues with AMD and ATI/Radeon in the past and that's soured me on anything they intend to offer in the future.
I'm sure they've grown out of it and they have some high-performing hardware now, but I couldn't really care.
sinful mantle
its the price that brought most people over to AMD
molten bramble
I can understand that.
They've always been cheaper as a competitor, especially back when they were reverse-engineering everyone else's hardwork.
sinful mantle
to be honest I've never owned an intel proceassor
processor*
but.....i would if the price/performance demand it
exiting new world approaching and im looking foreward to the changes
lofty light
I've only just swapped over to AMD for 3rd gen ryzen, honestly not really ever had brand loyalty I just go for the best of the best at the time
sinful mantle
meaning; we are both not at all post primitive...we're modern humans
meaning; we are both not at all post primitive...we're modern humans
huh?...dunno how i double typed that??
latent light
you can put a $750 16 core Ryzen in a $80 B450 board and have no issues, though you may need to update BIOS which is something the retailer should take care of before they even put it in stock
that's pretty insane
lofty light
Well as long as you don't try and overclock of course
latent light
no need to overclock anyway
if I had a 3950X I'd leave it stock
3950X consumes the same amount of power as the 8-core 2700X lmao
about 150 watts at peak, 100-105 watts on average
clear coyote
Funny
stray needle
How do the i7-6950X stand in 2020
i7-5960X is at end of lifecycle per benchmark websites.
stray needle
The 6950X can still be a decent CPU for few years into this decade
lofty light
I was still using the 5820K until the end of last year, it still holds up fairly well
Only thing that made me jump was the 3900X
Double the cores on a platform that doesn't cost the huge amounts X99 did
stray needle
i'm using 5930K 4.5GHz as media station / secondary machine
crude osprey
@idle tangle I did try that earlier, with DDU and all and it didn't fix. I tend to agree with @sinful mantle that it probably is a messed up path or some issue with how I didn't "scrub" my SSD and just formatted it
lofty light
I've got my 5820K in my server atm, does a good job for Plex and the occasional game server
Overkill in most circumstances
idle tangle
@crude osprey do i complete new install via usb stick
And wipe the whole drive
After windows took the updates install the drivers. After that install only origin and bf5
And now it should run
Unless some hardware is broken
crude osprey
As in clean install the OS via USB/media creation tool?
opaque saddle
the old Minecraft server we used to play on? Derrikk?
fallow path
Is this Discord just for BF5 if so is there one for BF1 as theres a Major tech glitch in BF1 that someone should know about for those still running BF1 Servers?
supple bane
A.) this discord is labelled battlefield, not bfv meaning its for all bf titles, b.) no there is no offical bf1 server. c.) tech channel is for any and all tech issues on any and all games
so yeah you are in the right place
fallow path
ok cool
granite kestrel
What's the major glitch?
fallow path
At the moment when anyone tries to renew their BF1 server when you go to pay for it the page where it would normally take you to paypal is just a blank white page so there no way to pay for it so theres no way to renew your server.
no im having keyboard problem that way so slow
supple bane
wait, so your using a 3rd party company for the server right ?
idk how rsp works on that game
supple bane
log out of origin and log back in
fallow path
so its a glitch within Origin itself
mate that doesn't work its broken
anyone with the game try and hire one and you will find out
prime jasper
put in a support ticket
fallow path
hehehe they dont do anything
supple bane
well have you tried ?
granite kestrel
Would you mind taking screenshots and DMing me
storm osprey
#whybuyxboxinsteadofapc
shell osprey
bc it was a christmas gift when i was 10 :c
fervent mirage
anyone has overclocked ryzen 5 3600?
when i did my bfv kept crashing and i put it in default
storm osprey
OC'ing isnt worth it on ryzen 3000
river wyvern
I don't trust Boost Override
storm osprey
is there a reason not to? i never heard anyone complain about it
prime jasper
my motherboard for example has 4 levels of PBO, so yeah it'll screw up if youre setting level 4 on a stock cooler lol
astral merlin
I’ve had my PC for almost a month and I still haven’t figured out how to control the RGB
prime jasper
ouch, which brand?
astral merlin
If you mean my RGB strip, it’s Airgoo. Motherboard is a Asus rog strix Z390-E
prime jasper
oh, the aura sync doesnt pick up the strip?
prime jasper
Do you have Armory Crate installed or Aura Sync installed?
astral merlin
Yeeeah I’ve been told to install a driver for Asus Aura but haven’t found it in my mobo’s driver site
But honestly it’s probably armory crate
prime jasper
search Armoury Crate in the windows app store
it should install from there if you dont already have it
astral merlin
I shall look for this
prime jasper
astral merlin
Armory crate has been installed
prime jasper
hope that does it
astral merlin
Not really but I can check how well my specs are doing as well as potentially overclocking
I'll keep looking
coarse nimbus
your friends really slacking hard ngl
astral merlin
Looking at the CPUID ROG Z and the only words I understand is the name of my CPU and GPU
coarse nimbus
probably put the wrong shit into it 
latent light
No tubes, reservoir, pump or fans
It's never been used
Packaging still has plastic covering it
latent light
PS5 reveal next month supposedly
mild bough
Should my friend buy Oculus Rift S or the HTC Vive
prime jasper
@astral merlin you dont see this?
astral merlin
I haven’t checked armory crate since but I got my problem solved. But thank you for the tip I realized how little drivers I had installed
prime jasper
lol yeah Asus is a bit weird with this kind of stuff
but now we require pics of your perfectly synced up lights now
astral merlin
Uhhh
Does this count? 
I only took this picture because of how large that mousepad was
prime jasper
all blue? I too like to live dangerously
astral merlin
It was the only color I thought looked nice. Plus my peripherals were Logitech and they were blue themed so go all blue
prime jasper
I do the smart color so I see the nice red inferno when my machine is about to melt
astral merlin
prime jasper
storm osprey
large mousepad ruined by a full size keyboard
astral merlin
In hindsight I should’ve gotten an XXL mousepad
opaque saddle
i got a small size large mousepad and it covers up my keyboard and my mouse. the best $2 ever spent on mousepad
storm osprey
i always advise for TKL keyboards, hardly anyone uses numpads other than for log in, which top row pad will work
astral merlin
TKL?
astral merlin
Oh so what I have
storm osprey
at home i have a 75% keyboard since i dont use arrows and the navigation keys
astral merlin
... maybe
astral merlin
I’m tiny and don’t require a lot of room
storm osprey
lol thats a great sentence
i just play super low sensitivity so i use as much space as possible
im literally something like 18" to do a 360 in game
astral merlin
W i d e
astral merlin
Yes
storm osprey
good choice
astral merlin
Many of my peers recommended that I get a monitor with G Sync, so I did
storm osprey
i couldnt go back from adaptive sync
i even spent a little more on a tv to get freesync
astral merlin
I haven’t experienced anything that is screen tear so this do be a good monitor
umbral lily
I have exactly the same monitor too
prime jasper
its gud
umbral lily
It's holding its value extremely well in terms of price
prime jasper
especially once you calibrate the colors
umbral lily
Its still like £540
astral merlin
You can calibrate colors? Hollup
prime jasper
yes...yes you should
astral merlin
As you can see my intelligence with tech is not the greatest so I do not know these tools
prime jasper
now I have my brightness at about 50%, but I started off this https://github.com/Zer0CoolX/Dell-S2716DGR-Calibration-Guide
prime jasper
I downloaded that profile too
doesnt set the OSD settings on the monitor itself, but thats easy to do
umbral lily
Im also following this
storm osprey
it has OSD settings on there
prime jasper
Im gonna OSD your face in a minute
storm osprey
please
astral merlin
storm osprey
@astral merlin
astral merlin
What’s an OSD
storm osprey
download that profile, follows steps to set it, and follow the OSD settings
on screen display iirc
the physical buttons on your monitor
umbral lily
Im having an extremely hard time getting my nvidia colour sliders to be accurate enough to get numbers like 0.89 😂
storm osprey
its something like setting your brightness to 50, contrast to 55, and what not
astral merlin
I’ll tweak the OSD when I get home from work
storm osprey
highly recommend icc profile
my friend has same monitor, we were playing a mp game, i died and was watching his screen, it was a night map and he couldnt see the enemy, i saw them clearly
assuming you have an nvidia gpu, i also upped my digital vibrancy by 71%
storm osprey
monitor honestly borderline looks like shit out of box
prime jasper
yeah it damn near blinded me
astral merlin
I can’t tell because I’m naturally blind
prime jasper
and yet you are reading this 
storm osprey
he gotya there
astral merlin
I guess the brightness didn’t bother me 
umbral lily
@storm osprey When you say you recommend ICC profile, what do you mean?
storm osprey
how long you been on pc wilhelm?
prime jasper
You arent a vampire like the rest of us? IM reporting you
storm osprey
@umbral lily you download a color profile that you have to go through windows to apply, this color profile is to make the monitor the most accurate it can be
umbral lily
Is that on the site you linked?
storm osprey
yea the site provides ICC profiles for monitors they have calibrated
umbral lily
All I see is a readme and a license
I am most definitely being blind or stupid
Or both
coarse nimbus
Is that pc on the carpet
storm osprey
prime jasper
lol nyphon the navigator over here with the reach around
storm osprey
sounds like last night
fuuuck bmac i didnt even catch that
@astral merlin pc on carpet baaaad
prime jasper
stop pissing off the mods, youre gonna get us yeeted
I don’t know what I’d put under the PC
umbral lily
As far as I can see that ICC profile does absolutely nothing
visually nothing changes, even when going into colour management and ICC profiles
prime jasper
it might be subtle, especially if youve already tweaked around with calibrated settings
umbral lily
I dunno, it looks kinda like I have night mode on, yellowy and warm etc
coarse nimbus
You have carpet on your walls too? Do you live in an insane asylum
prime jasper
ok so do you have night mode on? lol thats built into windows
umbral lily
No no
I dont have night mode on lol
Believe it or not I'm an IT engineer but I've never had to fully calibrate a monitor like this before
coarse nimbus
Jokes aside though if you have an intake fan on the bottom of your case or just a filter in general, you should have an air gap there so airflow can occur
prime jasper
well see half the problem is that calibration profile is for a Rev. A00 monitor
mine for example is A09, which wouldnt be quite the same
technically it would need its own unique profile
storm osprey
why cant i react in this server?
prime jasper
haha loser
storm osprey
@astral merlin make a platform at least 6 inches off the floor,
yooo wtf
maybe its 100 you cant do?
try doing the "100" emoji
prime jasper
lmoa cubicle jockey cant even leave his cubicle
storm osprey
no one really cares
prime jasper
storm osprey
my keyboard too nice to do that to
lost venture
G910 
storm osprey
🤮
molten coral
Logitech G815 
storm osprey
is that a newer board?
storm osprey
damn are ram prices going up now?
latent light
Micron E-die
molten coral
SSD's are dirt cheap now
also the G815 did get released 2/3 months ago @storm osprey
I bought it at release
latent light
that Crucial Ballistix 3000 CL15 should be able to do 3400 CL14 with ease
SSD and RAM prices are expected to rise by 40% by Q4 of this year
molten coral
40%?! That is mental
latent light
10% by the end of this quarter
molten coral
Glad I don't need RAM or SSD's for the next 5 years.
latent light
storm osprey
damnit i feel like i should just buy ram now just in case...
at worst i sell it at a profit xD
prime jasper
selling used electronics for a profit? rofl
storm osprey
what if they arent used though
(i dont have a system than uses ddr4)
on top of that if i buy ram now at 60-70, and if prices are at 100 i can probably break even if unopened
forest token
entire house is carpet is my nightmare house
astral merlin
Don’t go where I live then
forest token
2 tb 860 evo price went up $27~ since about a week ago
other company prices are pretty good though
wd blue 3d 2tb went from $180 to $220 recently, oof
latent light
The Navi 21 graphics processor is a large chip with a die area of 505 mm² and 21,000 million transistors. Unlike the fully unlocked Radeon RX 5950 XT, which uses the same GPU but has all 5120 shaders enabled, AMD has disabled some shading units on the Radeon RX 5900 XT to reach the product's target shader count. It features 4352 shading units, 272 texture mapping units and 96 ROPs. AMD has placed 12,288 MB GDDR6 memory on the card, which are connected using a 384-bit memory interface. The GPU is operating at a frequency of 1500 MHz, which can be boosted up to 1735 MHz, memory is running at 1750 MHz.
TechPowerUp just eating up rumors lol
prime jasper
yeah thats a pretty spicy one there
latent light
68 compute units
300W tdp
Radeon is probably taking so long with big Navi because they want to have good drivers at launch, unlike the 5700 series lol
coarse nimbus
@astral merlin fix your intake issue yet?
astral merlin
Not home
coarse nimbus
That poor poor computer 
astral merlin
Hasn’t blown up so far
coarse nimbus
1 month in..poor soul chugging away with air restrictions on it 😩
storm osprey
if your psu is bottom mount and assuming you installed it correctly, its starving for air
molten coral
latent light
small citrus
Okay, so you PC guys probably get these questions all the time, but what would be a good PC build for BFV like to run everything on like the high setting, and have a good FPS? What would be a good price range?
latent light
@small citrus depends on what fps range is good for you
you want 60, 80, 100, 120, 144 or higher
lofty light
Also if you want 1440p
But overall I'd always reccomend a 3600 non-X for CPU and some mid range GPU, whatever is the most expensive you can get after buying the other components
opaque saddle
@lofty light just noticed the 3900X has dropped to 599.2 AUD, or 414USD. What a bargain
From FTC, the local PC hardware store
ashen ether
How much is a 256 ssd costs in your country?
small citrus
@latent light i would say 120
storm osprey
@small citrus resolution?
and this is MAX settings?
even for 1080p id imagine youd need at least a 3600 and a 5700xt
mortal shard
I need my 5950xt
glass wasp
so im getting a black box in the bottom left hand corner of my screen and i know it isnt artifacting and it doesnt appear in other games
cold fractal
I'm a nerd
small citrus
Alright
storm osprey
molten coral
Would be a nice upgrade from my 32:9 1080p
latent light
it's gonna cost around $5,000
violet plank
but why curved :/
i really don't like curved monitors
they take so freaking much space on the desk
latent light
those super ultrawide monitors need to be curved
violet plank
i would have to place my studio monitors behind the monitor 
molten coral
5000 feels like such an rip-off
violet plank
welp,i need monitors that i can adjust vertically and horizontal anyways
latent light
they're hard to make, not many of them will be made this year hence why they're expensive
molten coral
I mean the Samsung C49RG90 is also 5120 x 1440p only difference is that one as 120hz and the new one 240.
The C49RG90 is currently priced at 1000-1200
violet plank
the depth of those monitors is insane lol
molten coral
Ye it needs a lot of space
latent light
they need good cooling
violet plank
they get hot ?
molten coral
ye
latent light
they draw as much as a mid-range graphics card iirc
violet plank
lul,nice
molten coral
my CHG90 also gets pretty hot
violet plank
well true,my agon get's warm too
i can imagine it's nice for some games,but for fps like bfv ?
molten coral
I like it in FPS games as well
latent light
no point in getting a 5120x1440p monitor at 240hz, no graphics card can even come close to running that
maybe in 10 years
violet plank
reminds me i didn't test the new nvidia frame limiter yet
supple bane
U wot
slim torrent
the tactic is just to join this chat and write xbox one and all the tryhards who bougth a 2000 dollars computer will get mad
supple bane
Ah yes. The age old mis understanding about pc gaming. That it costs 2000 dollars just because that's what my favourite youtuber paid. Hate to break it to you but its pretty simple to buy a 400 bucks pc that will smash a console in games
slim torrent
only a grfics card will cost you 300
supple bane
A high end one yes
slim torrent
sorry for bad English
supple bane
Second hand gtx 1050ti will cost about 50
supple bane
Dude I play console and pc. I'm not some super ultra pc fan boy. But I can assure you I'm the long run they can cost about the same and you get so many advantages out of having a pc
supple bane
😂
astral merlin
molten coral
ok have fun
slim torrent
and I go play all my free pass games that include alot of triple a games
so like 400 for console + 60 every year for game pass
no to much
supple bane
Look console gaming is great. But theres a reason pc is the bigger than ps and xbox combined
storm osprey
ps+ games arent free...
slim torrent
only 59.99
storm osprey
you can just buy them on sale anyway
molten coral
I would strongly recommend to drop this topic as it's nothing more then platform bashing at this point.
astral merlin
No just pointing out the obvious
storm osprey
i mean, its worth since you have to buy it to play online
astral merlin
@storm osprey Good news, I bought a PC stand so my PC isn’t sitting on carpet anymore 
astral merlin
It’s not 6 inches but I managed to get 5 inches
Next step is to figure out if I can change the RGB of my GPU
astral merlin
EVGA 2070 Super
storm osprey
errrrrr
supple bane
That will be done through your motherboards software
astral merlin
Oh
storm osprey
my evga gpu had software i did it through
storm osprey
i think mb rgb setting is only with sync
astral merlin
Mobo is Asus and uses Aura Sync
storm osprey
uhhh i woudlnt know for sure honestly, my build is rather old
supple bane
The first place I would look would be on their at least
astral merlin
Am I even using the full power of my PC
storm osprey
but i 100% set my 1080 evga through their software
astral merlin
God
supple bane
Wdym?
storm osprey
you can delete the software after you set up your rgb too
astral merlin
Not too long ago I realized I was playing on 60Hz when my monitor is 144Hz
supple bane
Burnt
astral merlin
The PC loves to tell me that every time
supple bane
How can I check if my monitor is free sync btw
Its completely random and isn't important buy my screen was advertised as free sync and so far I haven't found any proof of that
Like what software would I need to use to set that up
storm osprey
uhhh atm youd need an amd gpu right?
astral merlin
I think it should automatically link
astral merlin
Assume both
For me I can tell I got G sync on with NVIDIA Control Panel. Is there an AMD equivalent?
storm osprey
uhh i think nvidia supports certain freesync monitors
supple bane
Yeah I don't have an amd gpu atm that's why I said its not important. But later this year I'm gonna get a 5700xt so I'm just wondering for when that time comes
astral merlin
Ah
storm osprey
what is monitor model?
supple bane
Samsung cjg5
supple bane
Oh ok
Wasnt really something I was too bothered about anyway tbf
I'll be happy with being able to play 1440p at 144fps<
astral merlin
There’s 0% chance I’ll experience it but I bet screen tear sucks ass
storm osprey
i fucking loathe screen tearing
144hz is pretty good with keeping tearing under control
astral merlin
Also can someone explain to me what bottleneck means?
supple bane
Erm
storm osprey
it was when i had a 60hz monitor with a 1440p machine that i noticed it
means one part of your system holds back the rest
supple bane
Lets say you have a 2080ti. But a cpu from 2009
Your 2080ti can only render frames when the cpu is ready
So despite having this amazing gpu. Your cpu wouldn't be able to process data fast enough to keep up
astral merlin
Aha I see
supple bane
That's an example of a bottleneck
storm osprey
higher resolution requires more gpu power, so even a weaker cpu will perform the same
astral merlin
Okay I think I should be good for a long time 
supple bane
I don't think I'm gonna change my cpu for a long time
storm osprey
the fps difference between a 2700 and a 3700 in general isnt that much at 1440p
supple bane
^
storm osprey
even though at 1080p those 2 cpus would have a noticeable difference
molten coral
Pretty sure i'll be fine for atleast another 3/4 years with my 8700k
astral merlin
AMD GPUs confuse me
supple bane
Why?
latent light
I'm thinking about getting a Xbox Series X and just getting a Ryzen APU system to use as a general computer
astral merlin
Just the way they’re titled is all
storm osprey
nvidia just as bad
supple bane
I think they are less confusing they nvidia lol
astral merlin
storm osprey
they have ti, super and boost to their naming conventions
astral merlin
Touché
storm osprey
and lowkey KO
astral merlin
And what’s hyperthreading? My CPU doesn’t have it but others do
storm osprey
1660 ko
latent light
oh yeah the 1660 KO
storm osprey
just waiting for a 1660 super boost ti
supple bane
1670 ti ultra boost turbo power
storm osprey
@astral merlin there are physical cores and then virtual cores, hyperthreading is virtual cores
not 100% sure if thats exactly what it is, but thats like a gist of it
supple bane
Am I right in saying in general a cpu with hyperthreading with have twice as many threads than it does cores correct?
storm osprey
ive never seen a cpu with hyperthreading not have 2x threads
8c/16t, 4c8t
threads are like, 10% the "power" of an actual core
latent light
more like 40%
storm osprey
like a 6c6t cpu will be better than a 4c8t cpu
supple bane
I've never really understood threads tbh. When I studied cpu's at school we only went into detail on the core. What it does and how it does it etc. A thread was never even mentioned
storm osprey
granted thats not apples to apples considering other cpu improvements
idk anything technical
i just know general affects on FPS
and price to performance
astral merlin
How does one yoink out a GPU
supple bane
Ya wot
astral merlin
Just taking it out
storm osprey
press the clip that holds the gpu to the pcie slot and wiggle it out
latent light
4c/8t at same clock speed as 4c/4t will have 40% faster multicore score
astral merlin
Oh I see
latent light
compared 7600k to 7700k
storm osprey
there might be a screw at the back of the case you have to undo
latent light
I'd choose a Ryzen 7 3700X over a i7-9700K just because of multithreading
5% slower single core but those extra 8 threads will go a long way
astral merlin
It sounds nice but I couldn’t pass an i7 9700k for $300
astral merlin
Yeah I bought it during Black Friday and when I was building my PC
storm osprey
good ol black friday
hopefully this black friday ill update my build
im still using a 4790
non K
astral merlin
Built my own PC and only know 20% of what it does
coarse nimbus
20% seems on the high end 
astral merlin
Pretty much my first build was based on the recommendations of my friends
storm osprey
apparently the certain cpu i got wasnt compatible with the mb i got, even though on the box it said it was
coarse nimbus
your friends that dont tell you some of the basics of pc life
astral merlin
Hey I did to figure out some things on my own
coarse nimbus
well the stand will help at least lol..with out knowing how your case is configured one would assume the psu is on the bottom with a fan facing down
coarse nimbus
Youre never home! 
coarse nimbus
But yeah 9/10 chance that if your case has feet on it..theyre sunken into the carpet and the case bottom is resting against the floof part, making that air intake unable to breath
coarse nimbus
Pls, ive raged enough already
Im tempted to ask what your cpu is running at ghz wise, but Im not sure what a 9700k does stock/over clocked so I couldnt properly get annoyed at your answer me thinks
coarse nimbus
buys 9700k
doesnt even mild OC it
coarse nimbus
youtube guides
astral merlin
I’m pretty good where I’m at
coarse nimbus
if youre just doing the basics and nothing fancy/putting dangerous volts to it, its perfectly fine lol
plus its meant to be done to it
astral merlin
But I lose my warrant
astral merlin
Listen I just want to play PC games with my friends that’s all I want lol
coarse nimbus
yes but...you need to flex on them with higher fps numbers
you have much to learn if you want to sit on the PC gamers council*
astral merlin
The what
molten coral
PC GAMERS CONSOLE
coarse nimbus
apparently I had a stroke there typing out my star wars meme 😩
molten coral
coarse nimbus
ngl it kinda works that way too, console memes deserve love too
astral merlin
Omg I can cancel my PS Gold
coarse nimbus
astral merlin
Ngl a big chunk of why I built a PC was so I could play Halo MCC
I was not about to buy an Xbox
latent light
Halo MCC will run fine even on a APU
astral merlin
A what
coarse nimbus
a gpu thats built into the cpu
latent light
Ryzen 3 2200G would work fine
crude creek
latent light
parents who buy their kids prebuilt "gaming" PCs that have an Fx-6300 and a GT 730
yikes
then those same kids are like "lol pc sucks my xbox one runs fortnite better"
queen remnant
Can anyone help me? my game runs like shit, all on low graphics, at 1080p
iron canyon
Specs?
queen remnant
im using a 1080ti, 8600k, 16GB 3300 ram
iron canyon
queen remnant
im getting constant micro-stuttering
iron canyon
I've had bad performance with my 4790k, 16gb and 1070.
Amazingly... and weirdly... playing the game on a different windows account fixed it somehow...
It's worth a shot 🤷
queen remnant
ive tried turning everything up, enabling/disabling dx12, turning the res. scale up
literally no performance difference
even at max settings
vsync does nothing as well
iron canyon
As I said, set up a second windows account, and try it there... worked for me
I had really bad frame rates on lowest of low, and the performance jumped 40-70% after I tried that
Mindblowingly weird
Talked to one of the admins over at the EA gaming discord and one of them confirmed that it had been an issue for a few people
iron canyon
I know and agree, but I still think it's a good idea to at least test it and see if that fixes the issue
Do it. For science! 
latent light
@queen remnant if you have 2 sticks of ram, make sure they're in dual channel
queen remnant
they are
i made a second user, and the game is unplayable
if its in fullscreen
if its in fullscreen it just goes all rgb stripey
queen remnant
it only happens on the second account
not on the main one
nvm that problem was just being caused by HDR being enabled
latent light
weird
queen remnant
and the second account didnt do anything @iron canyon
still just as bad, or even worse than before
iron canyon
latent light
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molten coral
you will need to open some ports on your router @sleek vapor
molten coral
sleek vapor
sinful mantle
go to your nvida control panel look for bfv and custom set the game
or g-force experience and go to optimize game settings
in control panel go to manage 3d settings....then select a program...select bfv
@queen remnant
each win10 account may have different settings. Depending on when you set up your graphis card
Also on bfv game setting play around with custom settings...i still use a GTX 960 and my game runs smooth a s silk.
I should add that my generic settings are medium to high.
keen prism
Anyone up in this bih
sinful mantle
hey Dunn how are you?
keen prism
I'm good Zen, I have a question if you can answer
keen prism
Well since I built my PC I noticed youtube videos are not clear and are pixelated
Don't know why
They are at 1080p resolution
keen prism
I did an update from the GPUs website
sinful mantle
also your boards drivers
sinful mantle
this may be the issue
most mobos are older than the newer board drivers
even the new boards
if that don't work please look me up and lets fix this issue for you.
you are after all my friend.
keen prism
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1485&SUBSYS_7C021462&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_148A&SUBSYS_7C021462&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1486&SUBSYS_7C021462&REV_00
These are the hardware IDs for the drivers
sinful mantle
do you ever get a require further installation prompt?
keen prism
No
sinful mantle
update the drivers then see what shacks you can always revert back
shakes*
go to the mobo's site and select new drivers
keen prism
I did but I don't know what to install
sinful mantle
start with chipset drivers
unless theres multiply drivers on one download
multiple*
bu the chipset probably will work for you
also did you get a driver disk with your mobo?>
keen prism
I think I did but I don't have a disc drive
sinful mantle
no probs...just download from mobo's site. Like I said earlier if you dont like what happens just revert back to generic windows drivers
keen prism
I did a graphics update in chipset, and it looks a lot better
sinful mantle
very cool
keen prism
Yeah the prompts for updates in computer management are gone now
sinful mantle
hey frost night
lone snow
my friend also just downloaded it so we can play together and he got the same problem
hi
sinful mantle
scuse me frostinger
sinful mantle
have you guys checked your internet connections?
lone snow
yeah
sinful mantle
cool will do..call me Zen
lone snow
ok
sinful mantle
okay try reparing your game first off
lone snow
yeah i am doing that right now
lone snow
it was at 7 and now there are 4 mins left
sinful mantle
but both you guys having the same issue is strange
sinful mantle
i was helping my friend DUNN earlier with similar probs
I tol him to update his mobo drivers and it worked out for him
lone snow
i see
astral merlin
Some people build their own, some buy prebuilt
lone snow
i let it ship to me as a whole but i replaced my CPU- fan thats all
and my friend changed a lot
sinful mantle
yep even though the mobo drivers may be corrupt or out of date
ahh heat related maybe?
lone snow
i bought the pc in april 2018
astral merlin
Could try checking your temps
lone snow
but something was wrong maybe a virus or something
sinful mantle
yep
lone snow
and i had to download everything ( also the drivers ) again in february 2019
sinful mantle
CoreTemp is a good small program
lone snow
i got CAM
sinful mantle
anything over 70 C is hot
you should be at about 40c chatting and about 17/18 idle
90 c is critical
lone snow
i know
sinful mantle
but itll crash when over that mark
lone snow
cpu is 40 celsius
sinful mantle
hows your temp now?
lone snow
graphics card is at 50 celsius
sinful mantle
perfect so thats not the issue
lone snow
i got high end specs and only air cooling but its ok
well the specs were high end a year ago
sinful mantle
you both upgraded hardware. did this just happen or was something afoot just after upgrade...im thinking maybe you power supply made be choking
lone snow
wait now it says my game is getting repaired
and it has to download 3.87 gigs now
sinful mantle
but both you guys have same issue
you and your friend that is
thats just weird man
lone snow
how much gb is bf5 as a whole as of right now
lone snow
i got 84,8 gb downloaded
sinful mantle
44.1 gigs installed
lone snow
you?
lone snow
what do you mean with that
sinful mantle
maybe to a date when everything was running properly
you have a system restore feature with windows
lone snow
no
the last time i played the game was in march 2019
so its outdated too
me and my friend got it downloaded twice
somehow
so i think i am just gonna uninstall everything and do it again over night
sinful mantle
sorry man my internet crashed but i was busy tping a responce on note pad
Click the Close button.
Click the Next button.
Click the Finish butto
opps ssorry hang on
Open Start. Search for Create a restore point, and click the top result to open the System Properties experience.
Click the System Restore button. Click the Next button. (tis is kinda important) Click the Scan for affected programs
button to understand the apps that will no longer be available because they're added after the creation of the restore point.
Click the Close button. Click the Next button. Click the Finish button
lone snow
nvm it works now
sinful mantle
wonderful...so our first option worked....lol
well the system restore feature can help..its helpe me more times than I can remember
lone snow
it still has 85gb for me in the file/windows explorer
but i dont care imma just leave it as it is
thanks a lot man
sinful mantle
glad to help Frost
latent light
APU of the Xbox Series X was revealed by Phil Spencer
The APU of the Xbox Series X is Zen 2 based with 8 cores and 16 threads, 2nd generation Navi (RDNA2) with 56 compute units, and a die area of 405mm².
latent light
56 compute units, that's 16 more than the RX 5700 XT
it should offer at least 30% more performance than the 5700 XT
also being based on RDNA2 which isn't out yet, it could be a much bigger difference
forest token
oh my bad, rdna2
should be 7nm+ then
but the cpu will be out of date possibly
zen 3 is 7nm+
latent light
it will be close to Ryzen 7 3700X performance, just clocked lower
latent light
Xbox already stated that they will support 120hz and maybe even higher depending on games
forest token
good
latent light
PS5 is gonna be between 30-50% slower but will have more exclusive games
PS5 GPU was leaked to have 9.2 TFlops while the Xbox has 12 TFlops
forest token
oof
latent light
that puts the Xbox at around RTX 2080 Super performance while PS5 has around RTX 2070 (not Super) performance
that difference probably won't be hugely noticeable
The reason I'm believing this shit is because Jason Schreier
if he leaks something, it is 100% fact
he doesn't leak things often but when he does
it's right
forest token
👌🏻
latent light
most of his leaks are about games and not hardware
but all of his game and hardware leaks have been correct
naive summit
How hard is building a pc for the first time?
latent light
3 things can be a challenge:
- Installing CPU cooler
- Cable management
- Installing windows
some CPU coolers aren't that hard, depends on which one
coarse nimbus
and cable management can be ignored if you dont care 
sinful mantle
...and absolutely do not drop the CPU on the floor bending some of the pins like I did my first build....grrrr.
coarse nimbus
laughs in amd only issues
opaque saddle
Grimer I reckon connecting the “little wires” from the case to motherboard is the most difficult for newbies
latent light
front panel wires
opaque saddle
Yeah, not the back panel
Coz they’re too small, they may spend 15-30mins putting it together
coarse nimbus
true..that part can be annoying
have to match the tiny writing with the booklet and whats on the board lol
opaque saddle
But I guess the rest of the part can be simple as, installing a stock cooler.
But installing a third party hyper 212v is just painful
latent light
my Wraith spire cooler for my Ryzen 5 1600 was pretty hard to install
had to push down hard to screw it on
always put the CPU cooler on before putting the motherboard in the case
opaque saddle
On another side the Intel stock cooler (remained minimal changes for a long time) is simple to install but it sucks.
The Manual for dual fans hyper 212 is just too old for AM4 coz AMD uses a new mounting solution (same socket) for x570
Therefore i placed the motherboard upside down to lock those back screws as they required, remove the AMD preinstalled mounting bracket (didn’t say anything from the manual) then finding the right screws to lock it in to the right place
crystal arrow
Question i7 8700k can go in too and H110m Gaming motherboard?
opaque saddle
@crystal arrow NO
it required a newer motherboard, like 2nd gen or the 3rd gen motherboard. your 1st gen is too old
crystal arrow
okay thanks
queen remnant
ive kinda fixed the microstuttering issue
but now that im actually playing, sounds arent directional at all
and im not getting enemy footstep sounds whatsoever
no matter what in game audio config im using
violet plank
footstep sounds are broken for more than half a year now
supple bane
it depends on the laptop if you can even do it
if you can change the harddrive at the bare minimum he will need to re-install windows
because windows will be installed on the drive he wants to replace. so taking that out means no windows
mild bough
oh damn
my friend needed help installing discord, so i think this is way out of his league
sinful mantle
@mild boughSorry man was away... no its actually a harddrive that you plug in via USB. Great for taking it with you. You can plug them in to other peoples PC's as well as your own. @mild bough
crystal arrow
arent those usb harddrive very slow tho?
sinful mantle
not these days
sinful mantle
well yeah but so does a hard drive
mild bough
man thats awesome
sinful mantle
yep thats true
mild bough
HDD is really cheap these days aswell
sinful mantle
just the ticket for your friend eh?
sinful mantle
good deal man...check for sales on newegg...you might get vone really cheap if your patient
ticket meaning thats the way to go
mild bough
Seagate Barracuda 4TB 3.5'' HDD for 100$
sinful mantle
huge man
mild bough
Is that a good one?
sinful mantle
seagate's a good product
mild bough
I know it is not plug and play
sinful mantle
remmeber that larger it is the slower...but that just symantic they are all very fast these ays
mild bough
Should I get 250gb SSD aswell to use as my main disc for fast startups?
sinful mantle
you could get a smaller one then just buy another later?
internal ss drive?...yeah thats a good move
mild bough
I dont want to get 1tb SSD since they are still expensive like hell here
Can you recommend any good 250gb SSDs which will provide fast startups?
mild bough
Is it legit?
sinful mantle
id get a smaller one for windows if I were you...259 gig way to large for jujst windows
mild bough
100gb SSD?
sinful mantle
sure its probably the oldest tech relate site on-line
mild bough
ah oka
sinful mantle
tech for purchse i should say
mild bough
Internal or external SSD?
mild bough
Okay
sinful mantle
ssd's arent designed for multiple re-writes
mild bough
just gonna throw in something random here, it is insane how Linus Tech Tips got over 1 petabyte in his studio
1 pb = 1000tb
Would this be a good one for fast startups?
sinful mantle
might be too small for windows..you have to consider page filing an such
supple bane
well thats what it takes when you record videos in 8k
sinful mantle
you could delegate page filing to another rive but thats complicated
sinful mantle
youdont want to record to your windows drive....just use a magnetic drive for that stuff,,,and another larger ssd for programs like games...that would be three rives in all
sinful mantle
i will after i eat some food...im starving and I;m a skinny ude....lol
magnetic is the old types
ssd's the newer ones
mild bough
magnetic is hdd?
sinful mantle
the magnetic drives are still very fast and you can over-write with out any problems this is why you get a magnetic for simpole shit like vidios and such
yes
but a large ssd for games as they arent likely to be deleted
let me get back with you after I eat...okay? wont be long I eat fast...lol
i eat fast I type fast i move fast in game....heh-heh
sinful mantle
cool syl'er
true said..plus i was up till 5:00am shooting it up with friends
im a better gamer after minight it seems
anyway see youn onn the re-bound.
mild bough
ywsss
sinful mantle
Burp...okay mikail what are we after? your friend needs a drive... do you also want to set up new drives for your PC?
@mild bough
mild bough
sorry for the late response
trying to hunt cougars in rdo
But I found my friend a drive
Now I need a drive since I have 80gb left
@sinful mantle
drifting raptor
Are you able to play with raytracing on GTX cards?
mild bough
depends on the game iirc
supple bane
@mild bough what is the budget and what do you need? An ssd or hdd
mild bough
well I want 1 ssd for fast startups
so budget there 40$
hdd i want 2tb and budget 150$
mild bough
Tbh I only want like 250gb ssd so I can use that as my main drive and I get fast startups
supple bane
Well why do you want to spend 150 bucks on it then 
mild bough
i wanted to spend 150$ on hdd
but if 2tb hdd costs 50$
i would only need to spend like 100$ in total right?
sinful mantle
keep an eye out for the speed and cashe instea of the money
sinful mantle
the speed of the drives an the cashe size
mild bough
cheapest 1tb ssd here is 100$
sinful mantle
in a magnetic drive that is
supple bane
You dont buy a magnetic drive for speed
You want as much bulk storage as possible. Not fast R/W speeds
sinful mantle
thats debatable
supple bane
@mild bough an m.2 ssd is a type of ssd which is about 4 times as fast as a normal one
sinful mantle
true
supple bane
I don't know anyone that buys a hard drive for it to be fast
mild bough
oh shit
supple bane
sinful mantle
i do or have
mild bough
SSD M.2 are the fast ones?
sinful mantle
not compare to ssd' no
supple bane
@mild bough yeah
About 2gb a second read times iirc
A normal ssd is around 500mb a second
sinful mantle
but ssds's arent great at re-writing so its good to have a magnetic for simple programs and daily use
mild bough
i am a gamer
sinful mantle
games for ssd's for sure but vidioos and music no
mild bough
so i dont use re writing stuff
sinful mantle
videos*
supple bane
@mild bough get a 2tb harddrive an a 500gb m.2 ssd imo
sinful mantle
do you delete programs often?
supple bane
Dont bother with a normal ssd
sinful mantle
i do
mild bough
i delete programs so often since i only have 1tb
so i install and delete games all the time
sinful mantle
okay then you need a magnetic for those and SSD FOR GAMES AND SUCH
opps sorry caps
my finger sliped
mild bough
So SSD M.2 is faster than SSD 2.5?
sinful mantle
you shouldnt delete much with a ssd....they arent made for that
supple bane
Yeah
@sinful mantle while this is true its not as dramatic as your making it sound. You would have to be formatting your ssd like every month for it to actually do any damage
supple bane
Sure
mild bough
Up to 3840mb
mild bough
HDD 2.5 or 3.5?
sinful mantle
one for widows ssd one for games ssd the other for winamp files an such
supple bane
An ssd should be fine with uninstalling stuff along its life time as long as you are realistic and not handing out formats like hot cakes
mild bough
but its 4tb
supple bane
If you want to spend 200 go with more ssd space
50 bucks on a 2tb hdd and 150 on like a 1.5tb ssd
mild bough
wait i can't afford all this rn lol
i think i should only buy the ssd first
I am saving up for airpods aswell
supple bane
Yeah ssd prices are set to rise so you wanna grab them up
mild bough
whatatatatatat
shit lmao
i am poor like fuck rn, and you are saying that the prices are rising
supple bane
No your not gonna wake up in the morning and your ssd is worth 500 pound lol
Its gonna be across years lol
If it even happens
mild bough
Ohh
supple bane
It's just a theory
mild bough
since i have a shit ton of components that i want to buy
does drivers affect the psu?
Since if so I have to buy a new psu aswell
supple bane
Wdym?