technology

[violet plank]

waiting for the 5800x

[storm osprey]

@silent steppe what monitor do you have? gsync or freesync?

[silent steppe]

some generic bullshit, im not shopping for anything yet lol

just making plans

wondering what a good cpu combo for 1080ti would be, other then ryzen

not sure im ready for that ryzen swag yet

[violet plank]

8700k

with all the shit bugs

[storm osprey]

depends on what your are doing really

[violet plank]

meltdown,spectre and so on

[silent steppe]

occasionally get in a video making phase

[storm osprey]

1440p you get basically same performance from a 3600 to a 9700k iirc

[violet plank]

3700x is perfectly fine

[vestal falcon]

for bf5 lol

[supple bane]

as of now, there is no reason to go to intel

[vestal falcon]

9600kf

do it 5100

ghz

[storm osprey]

if youre making videos than amd is the way to go

[violet plank]

i'm doing video and raw photo editing besides gaming with the 3700x/1080ti combo

[storm osprey]

(go 1440p)

[supple bane]

@vestal falcon the 3600 will outperform that and the 3600x will dominate it

like I said, no reason to intel for gaming as of now

well for anything really

[storm osprey]

unless you are high refresh rate gaming at 1080p and NEED the cpu performance

[violet plank]

intel for the meme 14++++++ nm

[silent steppe]

wouldnt ryzen 9 be theoretically better for longevity

[violet plank]

the 10 core with 165w tdp,which translates in 400w+ real usage lol

[storm osprey]

ehhh, you get so many cores and threads already and not many games are using them as is

for production sure

[supple bane]

6 cores is really all you NEED for gaming

[violet plank]

bfv takes all it can get

[supple bane]

8 will start to see diminishing returns

[storm osprey]

3700x just bang for buck bangin

[violet plank]

wait for the next gen consoles,you will want to have 8 core for near future proof gaming

[storm osprey]

ESPECIALLY at 1440p

[violet plank]

and that's only 1 year away

[supple bane]

I still think ps5 isn’t going to be as god like as the press is saying it to be

4K my arse

[violet plank]

well the dev kits have more power then the consumer ones will have

was always that way

[latent light]

3700X crushes 8700K/9700K in video editing

[violet plank]

leaks say it will still be a huge jump from the ps4

[supple bane]

and all this talk about 120 FPS, what’s the point, a console is designed to be thrown in a tv cabinet...: and used on a tv, at 60hz

[violet plank]

if the manage to get 60fps with real 4k that would already be nice

[supple bane]

I don’t think that’s happening

I will take my hat off if they can do it

[violet plank]

dunno,not sure yet,might be,might not

[supple bane]

think about it, 2080ti gets what? 65-70 FPS at 4K on average ?

[violet plank]

but for sure (if) not on all titles

[supple bane]

And what was the gpu in the ps5 again, wasn’t it the 5700?

[violet plank]

hard to compare pc with console

[supple bane]

True

[violet plank]

it's all custom made anyways

the cpu/gpu and ram

[supple bane]

I guess it’s just a wait and see sort of thing

[latent light]

next gen consoles get a great CPU

[violet plank]

yeah,1 year to go

[latent light]

ps4 and xbox one are extremely bottlenecked by the CPU

[violet plank]

so we might now it for sure in about half a year

jaguar cpus

they are not bad

[latent light]

leaks show AMD Gonzalo CPUs are gonna be used on next gen consoles

8 cores/16 threads up to 3.2 GHz boost

basically an underclocked 3700X

[violet plank]

that's why i would buy nothing below an 8 core cpu for a pc if i would build a new one

i wonder more how much ram they will get

lot of rumors with 16gig+

[latent light]

ram is going to be shared between system and the GPU

with 2GB reserved for operating system iirc

[violet plank]

thought it was 1gig

or was that the 1 core ?

[silent steppe]

how much is a reasonable amount to try and sell an rx 580 nitro for

[supple bane]

70

[latent light]

$120

[supple bane]

what!

[latent light]

580 nitro is one of the best

[supple bane]

yeah and it’s 150 pound

[violet plank]

was also good for mining lol

[latent light]

I can't find a 580 for only $70 not even on ebay

[supple bane]

that’s insane

[violet plank]

are they eol ?

[supple bane]

how can a second hand card that’s 150 be sold second hand for 120

+or - currency changes

[silent steppe]

150?

ok then this trade is good lmao

im trading a i5 4440 for one

[violet plank]

lol

good one

poor guy

[latent light]

i5-4440 could be sold for about $40

[silent steppe]

ye

its for the chip and mobo

[latent light]

although some people try to sell them for double that lol

[violet plank]

reminds me i still got a 7700k in my basement which i should sell

[latent light]

i5-4440 is decent budget CPU, equal to a R3 1200

[violet plank]

or maybe i gift it to someone

[silent steppe]

reason hes trading is hes building a lil hackintosh

[silent steppe]

ok so ill sell the alienware for 600$ and the nitro for 150$~ then my old pc for 375$ and we'll see

spent all day cleaning and organizing the alienware so i can get nicer pics

now we wait 👀

[latent light]

it may not sell for $150

[storm osprey]

that seems a bit steep

[silent steppe]

well i said ~ for a reason

probably 150 obo wtt

sometimes people offer laptops and what not frequently

after i sell all that ill probably continue finding deals on CL and flipping them

want to get around the 2 grand mark

[sour ivy]

yeah consoles are insane tbh

they just work

[silent steppe]

just did the trade

dude had a big ass afro and had a bob ross shit, cool dude lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628666330857603072/629089334590570498/20191002_175240.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628666330857603072/629089341808836618/20191002_175245.jpg

still has IO caps

oh shit

i didnt even realize it had a backplate lmao didnt both looking'

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628666330857603072/629091166607900672/20191002_180118.jpg

[fallen harbor]

guys this would help me a lot. Does anybody know if there's any software out there that monitors the input lag in real time?

because I need to test this on csgo but this game doesnt seem to be any graphs for it

[silent steppe]

wow i literally uploaded the ad for it like 30 mins ago and already got a non bot interested

seeing if this man will do 120$ and an r9 380 4gb as a trade for the 580 nitro

is that a good deal on my end?

[silent steppe]

its a sapphire 380 which is funny lmao

[fallen harbor]

why is that funny

@silent steppe

[silent steppe]

bcuz im selling a sapphire

its funny to me

[fallen harbor]

but why is it funny that youre selling a sapphire

idgi

[silent steppe]

is coincidence that the dude offering has a sapphire 380 nitro

[fallen harbor]

you find it funny that the two of you have sapphires?

idk maybe my english is off

[silent steppe]

yes

[fallen harbor]

so you are the one with the 580?

[silent steppe]

yes

[fallen harbor]

i see that as a good deal only if you want to downgrade and really need money for something else that isnt related to gaming

[silent steppe]

well its 120$ plus a 390 nitro

380

[fallen harbor]

what is your plan? selling the 380?

[silent steppe]

idk what 380 nitro sells for

yea

[fallen harbor]

idk what 380 nitro sells for```
dont you think this is a very important detail ![WoahThink](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/562440526021001230.webp?size=128 "WoahThink")

[silent steppe]

its hard to tell from ebay cl

from 160-300 which is for fucking sure not right

idk what people BUY it for is more what i mean

im thinking 100$

[fallen harbor]

so youre selling your 580 for $220 approx

idk if thats right

maybe it is

not sure about the real prices of these things

[silent steppe]

selling for 160, and the dude is offering a 380 and 120$

[fallen harbor]

oic

anybody knows whats the best gpu an i5 8400 can afford without bottlenecking?

[sour ivy]

do you already have the 8400

[fallen harbor]

i have an i5 8400 with an rx580, built it this year and i am not planning to upgrade any time soon

rx590*

i am just planning for the future

maybe my gpu will grow old faster than my cpu

or not? what do you think?

afaik this cpu cannot be overclocked

[sour ivy]

why worry about it rn

[fallen harbor]

because i am bored, procrastinating my sleep, and i find thinking about this matter mildly entertaining

[sour ivy]

You never know what will be out in a few years

Write my essay for me

1200 words

[fallen harbor]

lol

[sour ivy]

is that your dog

[fallen harbor]

oh right, the poison

[sour ivy]

he have cute disease

[fallen harbor]

the poison for Kuzco

the poison chosen specially to kill Kuzco

Kuzco's poison

[sour ivy]

Costco's poison

[fallen harbor]

i am just thinking that maybe I can do an upgrade without having to build an entire pc

in like 4 years or so

[sour ivy]

erh

we shall see

[fallen harbor]

(i only play on 1080p and 60hz)

[sour ivy]

i mean a 8400 will be struggling for modern games in 4 years

[fallen harbor]

i can imagine so

but some games use 100% of my gpu right now when my cpu is at 70%

so maybe there's an additional 30% left i can upgrade later

with a better gpu

although that highly depends on the game sometimes

but i get that on battlefield v and battlefront 2 right now

which are very cpu demanding arent they

so i thought that would be an accurate reference of my cpu being respectively better than my gpu

[prime jasper]

GPU will most likely age faster than your CPU

8400 is still solid and will be for at least 2-3 years

Polaris cards on the other hand are still solid, but won't be in a couple years

[fallen harbor]

i think i shoulve gotten a 1660ti instead

[prime jasper]

you bought a 590 new this year?

[fallen harbor]

ye

[prime jasper]

uh

[fallen harbor]

it was like 50% cheaper than the 1660ti

prices here are crazy

and otherworldly

[prime jasper]

where is here

[fallen harbor]

argentina

[prime jasper]

ah

LATAM market for PC parts is very unstable

[fallen harbor]

i paid for this pc respectively more than you would pay for an overkill pc

[prime jasper]

i mean that's what your market is though

[fallen harbor]

prices are almost double and the average income is significantly smaller too

i know

im js

thats why im only planning for 60fps and 1080

no way to go for 4k or 144hz or whatever unless i was a millionaire

but still i guess that additional money for the 1660ti couldve been worth it

more than the 590

[prime jasper]

probably

[fallen harbor]

guess ill sell this gpu later

or try to

[latent light]

@fallen harbor your GPU is literally supposed to run at 100%

if it's not at 100% then it's being bottlenecked by CPU

[fallen harbor]

huh

[latent light]

CPU usage shouldn't be at 100% though

[fallen harbor]

on csgo both cpu and gpu get to like 50%

each

[latent light]

csgo won't fully utilize cards

[fallen harbor]

guessed so

i always try to not use 100% of my gpu though

[latent light]

CPU usage should stay below 90% while GPU usage should stay above 90%

[fallen harbor]

oic

what if you limit the frame rate and stuff

[latent light]

you can

[fallen harbor]

will it still use more than 90%

like on bfv i get around 100fps but i limit it to 65

cause i have 60hz

and all that extra frame rate causes extra heat

[latent light]

yeah limiting fps will set GPU usage down which in turn means the GPU isn't working hard

[fallen harbor]

naturally

[latent light]

i5-8400 and RX 590 is a pretty good pair

[fallen harbor]

yeah im aware, but i was just thinking that maybe the additional money for a 1660ti would have probably been worth it in the long term

even if it was worse in quality-price ratio

or maybe not

maybe im overthinking

[prime jasper]

Anyone here have experience in modding frostbite 3?🤔

[quaint topaz]

https://twitter.com/nvidiacc/status/1179657579032645632

NVIDIA Customer Care (@nvidiacc)

NVIDIA GeForce Hotfix Driver 436.51 is now available providing fixes for Apex Legends, FIFA 19, FIFA 20 and Star Wars: Battlefront II. https://t.co/w3LJ7wnAFo

Twitter

[weary cedar]

https://www.wired.com/story/playstation-now-updates/

While it's not announcing the news explicitly, the PS4's cross-play efforts have officially moved out of the beta stage, meaning that the console can support cross-play on any titles that studios provide the functionality for.

The future is here, folks.

Sony bent the knee!

[mild bough]

i dont get it

Minecraft Seus renewed shaders tears up my screen so bad, but every other GPU intensive game with graphics set to full dont... How?

[supple bane]

anyone know why my msi afterburner osd isnt showing up ?

ive tried everything

[prime jasper]

you tried rebooting and/or reinstalling?

[supple bane]

yeah

ive tried both

its being happening for a few weeks now

[prime jasper]

do you have an MSI card?

[supple bane]

no

but its never been a problem before

it just randomly stopped working

[prime jasper]

huh, what brand is it?

[supple bane]

evga

but x1 causes problems for me

really bad stuttering

[prime jasper]

Im guessing you havent used x1 in a long time

its come a long way

no longer beta

[supple bane]

i used it like a few months ago

as someone told me to use it

[prime jasper]

try it again, its been updated

[supple bane]

but i like msi's osd

i fixed it

RTS had osd switched off

just had to turn that on

[violet plank]

don't install the beta xbox app for pc on the latest win10,it can make your system unstable AF and can't be uninstalled without using powershell and dism commands

[prime jasper]

it won't even install for me LOL

my bfv loading times are abhorrent right now I have no idea why

5 mins to get to main screen

5 mins to get in game

??

[latent light]

Reference RX 5700 only $290 and 5700XT only $360 at BestBuy

[latent light]

I could buy the $290 5700, put a $60 AIO on it and $10 of heatsinks for the VRM
and flash its BIOS to become 5700XT

[silent steppe]

ima try and look for a hybrid 1080 ti

[sour ivy]

yes

[smoky ginkgo]

Need help downloading a game of orgin and taking for for ever goes from 21 hours 6 hours 2 hours any ideas how to fix

[fallen harbor]

go to http://www.speedtest.net and post the results

and are you using wifi or ethernet?

did you try restarting your modem?

[prime jasper]

@smoky ginkgo the estimated times aren't the best. if it takes a while I bet it's

1. your internet download speed
2. the speed of your HDD/SSD

[smoky ginkgo]

@fallen harbor wifi

[fallen harbor]

how much do you pay for

check how much your speeds vary

check your speed from another pc or from your phone

and if its unstable in every device then restart the modem and if the problem persists call your isp

[smoky ginkgo]

£60.00 er between 25 and30 mbps guessing that's very shit

[fallen harbor]

no i mean how many megas sorry

[supple bane]

is the game preparing or downloading ?

@smoky ginkgo you package is shit btw, you should look at changing that

60 pound should be getting you 200mbps

[fallen harbor]

i assumed he meant origin dowloads at 25/30 rather than it being what he pays for

[smoky ginkgo]

Downloading im looking to see if i can get a wifi router in my room so i can concert a eathernet cable to my pc

[fallen harbor]

your wifi adapter might be malfunctioning

[hoary lodge]

i really need someones help

8700k with 1080ti 16gb ram and my frames for games, especially bfv are all over the place. 150s all the way to below 60 and every single number in between its never ever stable

[prime jasper]

sounds like possible thermal throttle issues

[latent light]

yeah just check temperatures

[hoary lodge]

my temps are around 56-59

im not seeing a increase in temp that im seeingh

its water cooled aswell

[latent light]

Likely an issue with the game itself and not your hardware

[storm osprey]

they do say frames are all over for other games, just especially for bfv

[prime jasper]

did bfv's optimization get shittier recently

[hoary lodge]

The only game where it holds a solid fps is for honor never goes above or below 144

Apex legends had about a 40 fps drop and increase all the time

Would wiping my computer do anything?

Harddrive issues ?

[latent light]

is your 1080ti running at low temps?

run some benchmarks

[hoary lodge]

Gpu is running between 58-60C

CPU is 52C

[latent light]

Do you experience GPU usage drops in benchmarking tools when the stutters occur?
Up to date chipset and GPU drivers? Try different drivers
Check for bent CPU pins maybe
Check power cable connections
Adjust Nvidia control panel power setting, change it to Adaptive or Performance

[hoary lodge]

yeah drivers are updated ive gone back a few and didnt do anything

gpu usage goes between

60-40%

[latent light]

GPU usage should be over 90% when playing games

[hoary lodge]

Oooh

Why would it be so low

[latent light]

so something is holding it back

it could be defective

what model is it?

[hoary lodge]

1080ti strix

Ywah its dropping about 20% when I get my fps drops

Sitting at 50s does to 41 little lower when I drop

[latent light]

have you tried using DX11 and DX12?

[hoary lodge]

no ive shut that off

was told it wasnt worth it

so ive never had it on

[latent light]

may need to do a clean install of Nvidia drivers

do this by downloading DDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP-2B14Nckw

this app completely clears out all GPU driver related stuff

so you can do a clean install

[hoary lodge]

so i put on dx. it made the gpu usage to around 70%

but its a total stuttering mess

with it on

[prime jasper]

turn future frame rendering on

[crimson torrent]

anyone know why im getting bad stutter with an i5 8600k ? began after one of the patches for firestorm and game hasnt ran well since

[latent light]

repair game files

[crimson torrent]

ive done that - even done a reinstall

multiple times

[latent light]

I know the 8600K only has 6 threads which can experience some stutter in BF5

but it shouldn't be bad

[crimson torrent]

its rough....

[hoary lodge]

with dx and future frame rate on

it goes from 90% to 10%

and all in between

[crimson torrent]

never used to have any

[hoary lodge]

but when its around 90% it definatly seems to be holding frames

+/- 10 frames

[latent light]

@hoary lodge download Unigine Heaven Benchmark

it's free

run it at extreme settings

see if you get any stutter

if you do, it's a GPU problem

[crimson torrent]

https://imgur.com/qDBVFrL

here is a link to vid of my stutter

[hoary lodge]

ill give it a try

that almost seems

like a internet lag problem

[crimson torrent]

and when i play recon class using Kar98 - some shots dont even fire

[latent light]

that's not stutter, that looks like rubberbanding

[hoary lodge]

^

[latent light]

which is internet or server related

[hoary lodge]

Do i just hit run on beaven benchmark?

or do i have to do any settings

[latent light]

run these settings

[crimson torrent]

just did speed test - ping 6 / dl 140.34 Mbps / up 11.18

[latent light]

when you're running the benchmark, look at GPU usage and temperatures

[hoary lodge]

okay i will

it will tell me if anything is wrong?

[crimson torrent]

idk guess ill restart everything and see

[latent light]

nah all you gotta do is monitor the usage

[crimson torrent]

flat you will have to look for stuff

[latent light]

make sure it's pretty consistent

[hoary lodge]

kk

[latent light]

at 90% or higher

[hoary lodge]

Okay my card is running 98% 140-150fps at all times

It had what I saw 3 moments

Where the usage dropped

To about 80%

Then went back yp

Up

[latent light]

usage drops sometimes when it's changing cameras

[hoary lodge]

Temp is 65C

[latent light]

yeah 1080ti strix will eventually get to around 67-68C

are the frames consistent though

[hoary lodge]

for 95% of the time it was around 145

had a few times wheere it dropped to like 100

but for the most part smooth as butter

[hazy oasis]

my cpu goes to 100c

only in Battlefield lol

[sour ivy]

65 c dope

whats your cpu @hazy oasis and cooler

[hazy oasis]

@sour ivy i7 6700k 4.0ghz not overclocked

[sour ivy]

cooler

[hazy oasis]

corsair h60

liquid

[latent light]

6700K is definitely getting pushed to the limit on BF5

[sour ivy]

100 C tho

[hazy oasis]

at least the gpu is 67c

[sour ivy]

100c seems extreme

esp considering it has adequate cooling

[hazy oasis]

yeah 100c it's dangerous

maybe I'll buy a new cooler

but 100c it's only in battlefield

others games I get between 70 to 85c max

[lofty light]

@hazy oasis I'd repaste, that's real bad for the liquid

Sounds like there's something wrong with the cooler setup so paste and up the fan rpm

[summer comet]

repasta that CPU

[latent light]

marinara sauce

[lofty light]

Momma mia

[molten bramble]

chives

[latent light]

breaded mozzarella sticks with marinara 😩

[molten bramble]

adding chives to the reservoir is good for -10 degrees less heat

^science

also, if you slip an Ambien in the USB port, it goes to sleep flawlessly

waits for someone to actually try either and then blame me for their tomfoolery

[summer comet]

I think you meant an Amien

[molten bramble]

tf is Amien?

[summer comet]

the best BF1 map btw

[molten bramble]

Ah, that's why I don't know it, I dislike BF1.

[summer comet]

Wasn't a fan either but it's literally the rotterdam of BFV, anyways, back to tech talk 😄

[latent light]

@hazy oasis is the fan on your corsair h60 spinning?

[hazy oasis]

idk let me ask him brb

[latent light]

maybe the fan isn't spinning or the pump isn't working

[hazy oasis]

my cpu while not gaming is 41c

so it should be spinning

[latent light]

idle temperatures don't mean much

[molten bramble]

Are you using CorsairLink?

Should be able to adjust fan profiles.

Might not be ramping up enough.

Looks something like this:

[hazy oasis]

https://prnt.sc/peljad

is that good

I might need to restart my pc to detect my coole brb

[molten bramble]

Holy shit, are you under load?

[latent light]

holy shit those motherboard temps are high

looks like he's idle

7% cpu load

[molten bramble]

Might be a bad pump.

[hazy oasis]

I'm idle

[molten bramble]

Go to Profile and select "Performance"

See if it changes the temps and fan/pump behavior any.

118.0C damn

[hazy oasis]

https://prnt.sc/peljye

I don't think 118.0c is real

maybe faulty sensor

[molten bramble]

You plugged everything into the right headers, yes?

I believe the pump has two leads, can't remember. They're both plugged in?

[hazy oasis]

I mean

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/344465727115493376/627886679121854467/9665600e-100d-4c29-9a5f-2c7b08c078ba.png?width=507&height=676

[molten bramble]

Fan #2 is nearly x3 idle speed

So something is being detected.

Damn, you gotta really clean the dust out of there, that's not going to help anything either.

When you place your hand on the radiator, is it warm/hot?

How long have you had the AIO?

[hazy oasis]

it's not hot

3 years

it's warm

[molten bramble]

AIO might have just gunked up inside, not really circulating properly.

It happens, they aren't forever.

[hazy oasis]

ok it's decided then buying a new liquid cooler repasta

[latent light]

you've got a reference 1070 that stays under 70C?

yeah it's being bottlenecked by your throttling CPU

[hazy oasis]

only battlefield

[latent light]

battlefield will fully utilize a 6700K

[molten bramble]

I have the H80iv2, it's solid and priced reasonable.

[latent light]

I've always used air coolers because of reliability

[hazy oasis]

this is gears 5

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/344465727115493376/627894315758387241/unknown.png?width=1602&height=676

[latent light]

gears 5 isn't CPU intensive

only utilizing 50% of your CPU lol

honestly since your motherboard and CPU are both getting hot, you could buy one of those air coolers that blow towards the motherboard

which helps with VRM cooling

[hazy oasis]

my pc has 4 fans

two blowing in (one used by cpu cooler) and the two other blowing out on the back of the pc

[noble turret]

Alright people I got a serious question: Do I buy a USED 1080 ASUS Strix that has 3 fans from 2016 for $250, or purchase a XFX 5700 (blower reference) from bestbuy new on sale for $289.99, or the XFX 5700xt (blower Reference) on sale at best buy for $359.99?

[latent light]

used 1080, if return is an option

[hazy oasis]

like I said

the motherboard temp is fake

even if I start my pc it's like that

[latent light]

download HWinfo64

[noble turret]

@latent light prob not an option, and it has no warranty. Can you explain why I should go towards the 1080?

just curious

[hazy oasis]

same

https://prnt.sc/pelnd2

many people are having the same reading

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/350544272222073417/

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/mainboard-temp-118c.2457297/

[latent light]

@noble turret asus strix 1080 is dead silent, while reference 5700 will be noisy and hot

well both produce a good amount of heat

[wicked forum]

Frame rate tanked is it just the new map?????

[oblique sequoia]

Hi, I got a 2080ti recently, just tried BF5 to check the performances, I get 120-130+ FPS with pretty good settings. But BF5 has 0% usage GPU I don't understand how thats possible... if someone know and could help me https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368526332230893580/629500892458123274/unknown.png

[sour ivy]

thats a glitch or smth

that wouldnt make senes

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah i don't understand, even in task manager its 0%

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368526332230893580/629509483051089930/unknown.png

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-cpus-new-microcode-bios-agesa-1004,40549.html

[gilded granite]

I have an RTX 2080 and beefy gaming setup and my game crashed the first time I loaded into Underground. When I re-launched it my FPS was somewhere in the 30-50 fps range, RTX OFF and DX 11 on Ultra 2k resolution. I can play all the other maps at 60 fps no sweat, but Underground gives me a ton of problems.

The longer I play the map the better the fps seems to get, which is odd, however after a few hours I'm still having issues with fps, although it is playable with sub-60 fps performance for the time being.

Hope this helps the devs at DICE! You guys rock!

[supple bane]

yes

FPS sucks on this map

I went from 80-90 to 40-50

I only played underground yesterday so I don’t know weather it was just the map or bf performance went down again

[prime jasper]

its just underground

I spend most of my time on bigger maps and there was little change

but when I go into the tunnels there my pc drops frames

[frail zodiac]

Someone please let me know how to make this playable as I've installed 4 different drivers and no luck. Bad frames & stuttering 😑
Nvidia card btw. Maybe just the underground map?

[slate rivet]

anyone use intune?

[sour ivy]

@latent light wait better perf update? Poggu

@gilded granite I’m having same issue brother

@frail zodiac cpu? Gpu? Ram?

[silent steppe]

from the numbers

why would you get a 2080

instead of spending a few hundred more on a 2080ti

[mild bough]

Since his ex gf name started with TI, he gets flashback

[storm osprey]

because the few hundred dollars doesnt get you a relative performance increase

cheapest 2080 super i see atm is 700 bucks, cheapest 2080ti (that i wouldnt even get) is 1150

for like an 80% cost increase you arent getting an 80% performance increase

2080 super to 2080ti is like a 20% perf increase

[supple bane]

he gave up arguing a while go lol, you won, you can stop going in now lol

[storm osprey]

80% cost increase for 20% performance increase... wack

[violet plank]

why do all amd cards have such a crap 1 % low ?

compared to nvidia

[storm osprey]

seems like they are using stock blower for the chart

could be a reason

[violet plank]

ffr on ?

hmm

[silent steppe]

i see 700$ 1080tis

they get swallowed quickly

2080tis*

[storm osprey]

no way new

used sure, but youll have cheaper 2080's at that point too

[silent steppe]

i heard 2080ti super is a thing

leaks

[storm osprey]

ehh i doubt but who knows with nvidia

slapping super on ti is just redundant imo

[silent steppe]

what does it even mean

people be making me confused with this RTX and super shit

[violet plank]

more cu's

[silent steppe]

like fuck me

[storm osprey]

ti and super are basically the same thing

[violet plank]

and more vram

[storm osprey]

so to throw out a ti super is just extra

[violet plank]

2080ti super will be announced if the 5800xt can match the 2080ti

like 1 day later

[storm osprey]

lets see if amd does the old bait and switch

[violet plank]

i doubt they will get on the 2080ti niveau

but 2080(super) would already be very nice

if they can control heat/tdp

[latent light]

tfw RX 5700 XT destroys RTX 2080 in BF5

[worthy horizon]

Anyone here having weird lag spikes since the new nvidia update?

[prime jasper]

Ive had that issue with this game from day 1 lol

[worthy horizon]

I've been having rare but pretty horrible lags

Each one is about 3-5 seconds

One time I even crashed

[storm osprey]

i dont have problems with bfv anymore, i stopped playing

[mild bough]

lol

[latent light]

Ryzen 7 2700X is only $195 at walmart

[mild bough]

lol does walmart sell pc components

[latent light]

yes

[prime jasper]

why buy 2700x when it's the same price as 3600

2700x = 3600 in most productivity tasks

3600 is 7-10% better at gaming on average

[latent light]

3600 is 10% faster in single-core but 2700X is 20% faster in multicore

[silent steppe]

why does it seem like ebay prebuilts arent terrible

wtf

[hoary ember]

does walmart ship worldwide

or only us

[prime jasper]

@latent light that's definitely false

2700x is only marginally faster in multicore, nowhere near 20%

it's really only a good buy at the same price or higher than a 3600 if you need the extra cores and/or are doing heavily multithread work

it also depends on the workload; 3600 is marginally better at virtualization, for example

[grand steeple]

@supple bane whats better an amd cpu or an intel cpu

[supple bane]

depends

for gaming, I would recommend amd

especially if your streaming

[grand steeple]

intel is more popular though

[supple bane]

wait there

let me grab you a link

[grand steeple]

it gets more recognition than amd

[supple bane]

https://youtu.be/5TVIrwbrMUc

now remember

the amd cpu is 200

the intel one is almost 400

so you doubling the price for what? 5 fps, if your lucky

[silent steppe]

i can proudly say im saving for an amd 3900x after doing research

im glad amd is the top dawg again

[supple bane]

I don't blame you

[silent steppe]

been waiting since the stock price was fucking 3$

aka 2015

[grand steeple]

How much does amd ryzen 5 3600 cost

[supple bane]

200

almost exactly

[grand steeple]

£?

[silent steppe]

97$

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjzgfDCw4PlAhWFhsAKHXw-DJEYABAHGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2Y7LowkrMwYIh90X_Rv9D4d5YH9glKWBIb54PojOuAVK3ESFYgJAUDxPffqjZz_hMuKnvoeiWQYyvvGI8pjA&sig=AOD64_24CvKEco6omqFeAYXpGV3dK-MLzw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwirsOXCw4PlAhVHgK0KHZnYD7sQ9aACCEc&adurl=

[supple bane]

yeah that's dodgy

Really dodgy

[silent steppe]

google

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand steeple]

@supple bane what gpu do you recommend for me ?

[supple bane]

errr

what's your budget ?

[grand steeple]

not known atm

im just asking

[storm osprey]

monitor?

[supple bane]

he's fresh

I assume doesn't have one

[silent steppe]

gigabyte x570 auros elite is good for 3900x right?

[storm osprey]

than it comes down to budget and intentions

[silent steppe]

good vrms and aight bios?

[grand steeple]

@supple bane around 1250£

[supple bane]

give me 10 minutes

I'll give you a part list

[grand steeple]

is it good or I should add more

[supple bane]

it's more than enough

[storm osprey]

1250 will get you a bangin pc

144hz 1080p easy

[supple bane]

just waiting for this fucking laptop to boot so I can make you a part list, one sec

[grand steeple]

ok thanks

[silent steppe]

im going for the ultimate patience build

[supple bane]

@grand steeple do you already have a monitor ?

[silent steppe]

as im not going to skimp on anything

[storm osprey]

you can build for 1440p 144hz for about 900 usd

[silent steppe]

but am def penny pinching

[grand steeple]

@supple bane no

im a rookie

[supple bane]

I’ll add that into the build then

[grand steeple]

yes and add some keyboards and mouses

[silent steppe]

but anyways

[supple bane]

I will

[silent steppe]

is gigabyte x570 best for 3900x

[grand steeple]

thanks

[silent steppe]

or any other brand better

[latent light]

ask me you part together a PC for you at a certain budget

[supple bane]

I’m already doing it

[storm osprey]

no ASK ME to do a parts list

[silent steppe]

someone plz

[storm osprey]

(please dont)

[forest token]

shoves everyone out of the way Ask me

[latent light]

I would wait until B550 motherboard come out for Ryzen

should be some great affordable options

[silent steppe]

cost doesnt matter

everything will be used or sales

this build will be pure fucking slash cost style

whats the best brand for x570 options

[latent light]

ASRock has being doing great with BIOS updates and support

[silent steppe]

i was told bios on asrock sucks dick lol

[latent light]

ASUS and MSI been trash for X570 so far when it comes to releasing new BIOS and stuff

[storm osprey]

how often are you in bios?

[silent steppe]

well ill be playing with OCing

want to dive into water cooling

[latent light]

all manufacturers are acceptable

[storm osprey]

should take a day to OC tops, vs the hundreds if not thousands of days you are not in bios just playing games

[silent steppe]

fair enough but the question is about all round best x570

[latent light]

well the most absolute high-end X570 is the ASRock Aqua which is $999 and only 999 are being made

[grand steeple]

Grim

[storm osprey]

what a meme

[grand steeple]

Is i9 any good ?

[latent light]

it has a full waterblock on the board

[storm osprey]

not for gaming only

[grand steeple]

i9?

[storm osprey]

yep

[grand steeple]

whats it good for

[storm osprey]

production

[grand steeple]

like draftsmen work?

[storm osprey]

lol no

i7 9700k beats 9900k in purely gaming iirc

[latent light]

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/F89EjktvPrvVo6xbiDJQE3.jpg @silent steppe

this is the ASRock Aqua

[silent steppe]

lol

[grand steeple]

ohh

[latent light]

full waterblock

[silent steppe]

that looks cool as fuck

but not 999$ cool as fuck

[storm osprey]

and acad itself relies more on single core performance

[supple bane]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gRwFTC

@grand steeple

[storm osprey]

i hate it

[supple bane]

actually pretty proud of that list

so fuck you

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-ohlordy-gif-8253786

[supple bane]

im very protective over my lists ok

[grand steeple]

@supple bane how much will it run bf5 and other shooters

over 100fps ?

[supple bane]

bfv 1080p 144 fps

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/asus-msi-gigabyte-x570-motherboard-wars/

[supple bane]

maybe more

[latent light]

wouldn't support ASUS

they're being dicks

[grand steeple]

thats pretty lit

how about apex?

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGHheXBMATQ

[supple bane]

1080p ultra settings and like, 100 fps

the new map they released fucked the performance

i get like 40 fps now , i used to get 120

[latent light]

Gigabyte probably has the best options as far as X570 goes

[storm osprey]

@supple bane wh not 3600 for 1080p?

and why that god awful mouse

bleh

[supple bane]

yeah i just grabbed the first things i saw for the mouse and keyboard

and the reason i dont want to go wit the 3600 is

x570

yah ik you can bios flash

[storm osprey]

i had that exact mouse, i hated it

[supple bane]

but freeze knows nothing about pc's i doubt he can bios flash

[latent light]

Gigabyte B450M DS3H sucks even at that price range

ASRock B450M Pro4 is better

Gigabyte budget boards are the worst of any other manufacturer

[grand steeple]

I dont understand a word

[storm osprey]

everyone rip grantys build

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[supple bane]

[latent light]

[supple bane]

ill go change the stuff to things that are more

better

reee

bulli me on my builds

[storm osprey]

i said

reeeeee

[forest token]

reeeeee-do

[storm osprey]

lol that was actually clever

[grand steeple]

@storm osprey recommend me expert

[storm osprey]

i said dont ask me

i hate doing foreign builds

[supple bane]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kgCvK4

here

that mouse is probs shit too

[storm osprey]

better than that trash you had before

[grand steeple]

@storm osprey pwease uwu daddyphon

[storm osprey]

ok definitely not now

[supple bane]

im only used to the g502 price range

never heard of these mouses

the only one i saw that was cheap and ik was good was the glourios model 0

[storm osprey]

g502 is like middle of the pack

[supple bane]

but ik its out of stock here

and it has been for ages

and it will be for ages

[molten coral]

G502 best mouse

[storm osprey]

WRONG

[grand steeple]

Whats the best gaming mouses

[supple bane]

i have the g502 hero

[grand steeple]

logitech or razer

[storm osprey]

disgusting

logitech > razer

[supple bane]

not razor

[narrow star]

guys origin is stuck at download what to do 😦

[supple bane]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[supple bane]

but the g502 is just so comfy

and it has the perfect weight

and the sensor is amazing

[grand steeple]

I had a razer deathhader

when i played minecraft

[supple bane]

yeah

its like

what everyones buys when they are out the ring of pc master race

for some reason, everyone thinks razer mice are awesome

they eint

[grand steeple]

what are the best mice?

or mouses

mice animal?

idk anymor

[supple bane]

the plural of mouse is mice

also it depends

people are very fussy when it comes to mice

[storm osprey]

depends on what you like and what your intentions are

[supple bane]

there are 2 types, really lightweight easy to throw around, but uncomfortable when using,

[grand steeple]

My intentions are to play games

[supple bane]

or more ergonomic, better sensors, and more control

[storm osprey]

best mmo mouse and best fps mouse will not even be close to the same

[grand steeple]

I want something comfy and good

[supple bane]

the g502 is the way to go the

[storm osprey]

bleh

[supple bane]

but your starting out

[storm osprey]

BLEH

[supple bane]

so its too expensive

[grand steeple]

how much is it

[storm osprey]

g502 is a meme

[supple bane]

your a meme

[storm osprey]

yea but you dont have to buy me

[grand steeple]

@storm osprey what do you recommend then?

[storm osprey]

depends what is your focus

fps? not the g502 thats for sure

[grand steeple]

my focus is to play games

[supple bane]

for you i would just say go with something cheap

[grand steeple]

fps and mmos

[supple bane]

get used to pc gaming first

[grand steeple]

true

[storm osprey]

if fps and mmos the g502 is a good place with all its buttons and its sensor

g502 is one of the better all arounders

[supple bane]

you were just saying it was shit

[storm osprey]

its a meme

[forest token]

+1 for g502 from me

[storm osprey]

almost everyone has had one at one point and has claimed its the best mouse ever

[supple bane]

thats because it is

[storm osprey]

it could be the best all arounder, but for fps its only good quality is its sensor

[supple bane]

this is the thing i like about pc gaming

there is so many things you can personalise

and every little thing goes so so so deep

like literally a mouse can be discussed for ages

[storm osprey]

i personally loathe the g502

[molten coral]

Only reason why I build is a PC so that I just can switch between multi media and gaming in a instant which is impossible on the PS4.

[grand steeple]

Nyphon why you acting like a cat

[storm osprey]

i am a cat

[supple bane]

nyphon is THE cat

[grand steeple]

thats explain your bitchiness

[storm osprey]

...

that makes no sense

[supple bane]

nyphon, do you use your model o?

[storm osprey]

bitch = dog

[grand steeple]

it shouldnt your brain is literally the size of a nut

[storm osprey]

model o-

[grand steeple]

[storm osprey]

i use g pro at work and model o- for gaming

[supple bane]

fair enough

[grand steeple]

what are those

[storm osprey]

mice

[supple bane]

g pro is a small wireless mouse

[storm osprey]

the GPW

[supple bane]

and the model o is the lightest mouse ever made

i think

[storm osprey]

i have the first g pro, its wired

and model o- isnt the lightest mouse made

[supple bane]

what is then ?

[storm osprey]

technically speaking?

[supple bane]

why not

[storm osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16826618087?item=9SIA4RE5082552&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-corn+electronics-_-gaming+mice-_-9SIA4RE5082552&gclid=CjwKCAjw29vsBRAuEiwA9s-0B5FPSXuSY0q1pkJs8QP45wPZN8OkvVT8DIr5pRtmCCpf72dsDHpNjRoCcocQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

that thing

AFAIK

[supple bane]

oh haha

[storm osprey]

outside of that model o- isnt the lightest either

[supple bane]

i almost brought one of those once

[storm osprey]

finalmouse ultralight 2 without the skins is lighter

[supple bane]

i wonder if that mad catz thing is any good

[storm osprey]

ultralight 2 47grams, model o- 58 grams

[supple bane]

i could imagine breaking that really easily

[grand steeple]

are those wild cat mice good

[supple bane]

those greeen stantion things

snap!

[molten coral]

I'm thinking to get the G502 wireless as my old g502 is showing his age after 4/5 years.

[supple bane]

oof

mines brand new

[storm osprey]

lightspeed with lightspeed pad?

[molten coral]

ye

[storm osprey]

get ready to drop 250 bucks on those 2 xD'

[molten coral]

I also still need a new keyboard as 1/3 of my keybaord is kinda broken

[supple bane]

its worth it

[storm osprey]

GMMK keyboard

[molten coral]

GMMK?

[grand steeple]

@supple bane what mouse pad i should get

[supple bane]

the cheapest one you can find

[storm osprey]

glorious masterrace modular keyboard

you can hotswap the switches

[molten coral]

I'll stay with logitech

[supple bane]

i was going to say lol

its a bit of a shit feature

[storm osprey]

gaming keyboards are too expensive for what you get

yea logitechs features are good

/s

[molten coral]

I've the logitech G810 and it's an amazing keyboard but I spilled cola on it and now i've to press 1/3 of the keys a couple of times before they work

[supple bane]

hahha

[storm osprey]

i had the g810

[supple bane]

me and you both

i spilled water on mine

[storm osprey]

(keyboard community hates that keyboard)

[supple bane]

but i stripped it and dried it off,now it works fine

[molten coral]

They can hate it all they want cuz I love it

But they don't sell them anymore so F

[storm osprey]

tbf you are paying for brand over quality

[latent light]

Pick up an EVGA 400W N1 power supply for $19.99 after mail in rebate until 10/7

[supple bane]

eh

[latent light]

400W psu is only good if you have a 1050Ti or 1650 lmao

[molten coral]

tbh I never even heard of GMMK

[supple bane]

what does that have to do with keyboards lol

oh wait

[storm osprey]

GMMK made by glorious, same people that make the model o-

[grand steeple]

[supple bane]

sorry grim, i thought you were trying to tell us to buy a power supply for our keyboards

i was so confused

[storm osprey]

gmmk is like the first step out from mainstream gaming keyboards and into the keyboard enthusiast area

[molten coral]

[grand steeple]

nyphon you sound obsessed

[storm osprey]

nopes

i wont spend over 150 on a keyboard

[molten coral]

So what is the difference between a logitech keyboard and that? I mean this one is typing fine for my needs

[storm osprey]

people spend over 150 on just switches

[hoary ember]

do you really need a "gaming" keyboard

[grand steeple]

they earn 50k a year why not

[supple bane]

im more of a hardware freak than a accessory guru

[storm osprey]

99% of gaming keyboards come with laser etched keycaps, this is like the cheapest keycap you can get, almost none are modular so you have to learn to solder or buy a new board if a switch fails

[supple bane]

if i was given 500, i would buy a spany gpu, and take some office keyboard

[storm osprey]

gaming keyboards are mostly plastic, cheap quality, but have bright colors and sell off brand name

[molten coral]

Same

[storm osprey]

they arent bad

keyboard enthusiasts will just say they are bad

they just arent worth the price you pay for them

[molten coral]

Like I care about what other people think

[supple bane]

i mean, they are nice to type on for very very long tmes

but thats what they are designed for

[storm osprey]

well their conclusion isnt on preferences but objective quality

etched keycaps is the worst you can get for keycaps

so they have a reason for their conclusions, they are just dramatic about it

[supple bane]

the thing is, office keyboards did used to suck ass, and thats where thing whole thing comes from i think

[molten coral]

office keyboards still suck

[supple bane]

like the old ones with the massive rubber domes

[storm osprey]

outside of brand and software, something like a 40 dollar red dragon keyboard off amazon isnt that much different than a typical gaming keyboard that costs 100+

[supple bane]

that you have to press in like 10 inches before they key registers

i disagree with that

, you get premium materials, amazing software, an lcd screen, better switches, dedicated media keys, macros up your ass

[storm osprey]

the materials arent different

[supple bane]

i do think paying does get you a nice keyboard

mmmmm

idk

[storm osprey]

they are the same pbt etched keycaps

switches are hit and miss as well

even expensive gaming boards sometimes run budget switches from kailh or gateron

not that those switches are even bad, hell they are better than the retooled cherry switches

[hoary ember]

is corsair k55 gud

[supple bane]

no

well actaully

its not too bad

[molten coral]

I don't know shit about keyboards but if it types fine and it looks good i'm all good.

[supple bane]

but it isnt mechanical

[hoary ember]

i am using a red switch kboard rn

[supple bane]

thats my main problem

its rubber domes

[hoary ember]

is there any cheap red switch kboard u know?

[storm osprey]

50 bucks for a membrane keyboard? no thank you

[supple bane]

they are the best rubber domes i have ever used tho

i have to give it to corsair, it is a very nice dome considering

[storm osprey]

a nice dome isnt worth 50 bucks

when you have decent mechanical keyboards out now for as cheap as 30 bucks

kind of the example i mean of overpriced keyboards because of brand recognition and its colorful..

[supple bane]

yes and for that you get dediated media keys, macros, a wrist rest, no board flex

[hoary ember]

i am looking to amazon renewed

[storm osprey]

sounds like features over quality

[hoary ember]

there is a void pro at 30 usd

[molten coral]

Anyone who like blue switches?

[supple bane]

me

love em

[storm osprey]

you guys kill me

[molten coral]

good

Also love blue switches

[storm osprey]

BLUE SWITCHES

[hoary ember]

dactilo

[storm osprey]

what kind of madmen are you two?!

[supple bane]

oh man

its sooo clicky

and clacky

and satisfying

and glorious

[storm osprey]

they are equivalent to having high beams on a truck driving behind you on the highway at night

[molten coral]

red - not too much clacc but game gudd
blue - C L A C C

[supple bane]

wait

[hoary ember]

was the white one is silent

[supple bane]

arent you the man that said and i quote "i have a shit mic, but i dont have to listen to it so im not bothered"

hehe

so its just the same thing

[storm osprey]

i have a good mic

[supple bane]

hmm

i sure you said you had some 6 buck one or something

[storm osprey]

i probably said that as an example to why someone didnt have to drop 100 bucks on a mic

[supple bane]

maybe it wasnt you

[storm osprey]

i have modmic 4

[molten coral]

no clue if I have a good mic

nobody ever complained tho

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm osprey]

i didnt think it was bad

[molten coral]

I've this mic

https://www.amazon.com/auna-Condenser-Microphone-Recording-Shockmount/dp/B074DWK68N/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

[forest token]

I use a rock band/konami/guitar hero microphone with a real microphone arm stand - model e-ur20 microphone, has built in noise reduction and sounds good, $10

On pc btw

love it so much I bought extras

it's made by logitech

[fallen harbor]

is there anything wrong with having 3 sticks of ram btw

[sour ivy]

Not as efficient