technology

[sour ivy]

what bout me

[supple bane]

why does your matress double as a zoo tho ?

[sour ivy]

yeahj

[storm osprey]

because our animals are weenies

if we put them on the floor or lock them out they cry at the bed/door

[supple bane]

fair enough

[storm osprey]

they are all around 10 pounds so they arent massive

but when they're are 4 of them and usually at least 2 are on the bed

[supple bane]

i guess its like a gaggle of organic hot water bottles in the winter

theres a positive to everything

[sour ivy]

nyphon is your fiance single

[prime jasper]

[sour ivy]

i take the silence as ayes

[storm osprey]

@supple bane i live in the desert i dont really need warmth, even in the winter

@sour ivy not quite

[sour ivy]

😦

[mild bough]

desert?

omg that must be hot af

[storm osprey]

we are at least at 37c for 130 days out of the year

[prime jasper]

and then cold at night lol

[mild bough]

lol

i cant imagine living with over 30c

Wait did you live in arizona?

[storm osprey]

ye az

and it doesnt get cold at night in the city

you get like 80-90f at night

[prime jasper]

ah yeah, the city will do that

[mild bough]

What is 10f in celsius?

[prime jasper]

well 0C is 32F

so something in the negatives lol

[mild bough]

really?

thats like 3 celsius then

Its super cold...

[prime jasper]

10F? last winter we had windchills of -40C...which is the same as -40F lol

[mild bough]

wow

i dont understand temperature

So if 10f is -10 lets say

90f is 80celsius?

[storm osprey]

hottest day this year was 37c

theres a formula for converting F to C

[prime jasper]

80C is near boiling water lol

100C is 212F

[storm osprey]

its not just minus 10

[mild bough]

math is not my language lol

[storm osprey]

(32°F − 32) × 5/9 = 0°C

[prime jasper]

nerd!

[mild bough]

and that says me nothing

[storm osprey]

google

[fluid stirrup]

Metric system>

[mild bough]

Meters are easy

Like 1000 meters is 1 km and 10km is 1 mile

[prime jasper]

10km is one mile

try again

[storm osprey]

i dont think 10km is a mile...

1km is slightly short than 1 mile iirc

[prime jasper]

1.6 miles

[fluid stirrup]

Temperature is easy. .. 0° water freezes 100° it boils

[mild bough]

yes 10km is 1 mile

[prime jasper]

no..no it isnt

[mild bough]

Not american mile

[storm osprey]

so km is even bigger than mile

[mild bough]

rest of the world mile

[storm osprey]

...

[prime jasper]

wtf is 'rest of the world mile'

[fluid stirrup]

1km is like 1.6 miles ....

Other way around

1 mile = 1.6km

[storm osprey]

the definition of a mile is the same

[prime jasper]

brits ruin everything

[mild bough]

i dont mean american mile

[fluid stirrup]

Just use the metric system and all our problems are solved

[mild bough]

i mean europe mile

What is metric system

[prime jasper]

[fluid stirrup]

Km, meters, °C ......

Liters

Kg

And so on

[mild bough]

oh

The «Correct way» you mean 😉

[fluid stirrup]

Exactly

The logical way

[mild bough]

Yup

[fluid stirrup]

The easy to understand way

[mild bough]

yeah, and probs the most people use it

[storm osprey]

yet american makes bank

🇺🇸

be differnt

think outside the blox

[fluid stirrup]

No

[mild bough]

wdym bank?

Money?

[fluid stirrup]

Bad way of being different

[storm osprey]

the perfect way

[prime jasper]

lmao this is very technical...

[storm osprey]

now consume our media

[mild bough]

I would say norway makes money pretty good aswell

Compared to the size of the entire U.S

[storm osprey]

per capita

[mild bough]

whatever that is lol

i just say what i get taught in school

[mild bough]

ywah but america is like the entire earth

[mild bough]

but america is good

[storm osprey]

#1 overall and #10 per capita

[mild bough]

Since they have matt damon and leonardo dicaprio

[storm osprey]

considering the population of america is insane

[fluid stirrup]

330 million

Not really insane tbh

Oh America or The US

[mild bough]

330 million rubles

america and us is the same

both speak american

[fluid stirrup]

Yes and no

[storm osprey]

the unites states of america

[mild bough]

yes

it even has america in it

[storm osprey]

and in terms of per capita when the countries that are ahead have much smaller population

[fluid stirrup]

Bruh

[mild bough]

monaco is the richest place in the world 😎

[storm osprey]

per capita

[mild bough]

yes

but not best

[storm osprey]

qatar is richest per capita

[mild bough]

Only F1 is good in Monaco.

[fluid stirrup]

This conversation is confusing me

[mild bough]

But isnt Qatar actually poor?

I’ve heard that almost everyone that lives there is poor and only like 2% is rich or smth

Idk

[storm osprey]

USA is THE richest country, but on a per capita basis its the 10th richest, but the countries that beat USA are much smaller so have a skewed per capita

[mild bough]

merica heck yeaaaa

ak-47 in my pocket

[storm osprey]

pros and cons to everything

[fluid stirrup]

[mild bough]

yeah

is it fun shooting?

[storm osprey]

uhh i havent been in years but yea

[mild bough]

not people but on target

[fluid stirrup]

Bruh

[prime jasper]

no, not at all. Thats why I have so many funs...I mean guns

[mild bough]

they make so much noise

its scary aff

[prime jasper]

well yes most do...but earmuffs are a godsend

[mild bough]

what is earmuffs?

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/desafio-sob-fogo-america-latina-fogo-fire-forja-gif-12668440

[mild bough]

ohhh yeha right

my dad has one with stero inside of it

its super cool to have when working

[silent steppe]

@storm osprey buying it for 260$ as im giving him 10$ for gas

hes coming im hyped

[storm osprey]

nicee

[silent steppe]

now i can get more then fucking 30 fps on bfv

[storm osprey]

did you find out if its a 3gb or 6gb 1060?

[silent steppe]

3gb

same vram as my 970

basically same card

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm osprey]

pretty much

[silent steppe]

no bottleneck tho

i have an i7 2600 and gtx 970 rn lmao

[mild bough]

great

[latent light]

970 has 3.5 GB of GDDR5

[silent steppe]

basically 4gb

[latent light]

and 512 MB of DDR3

[silent steppe]

also nice peep pfp

[mild bough]

wait

so youre degrading your gpu?

since its less gb?

[latent light]

RX 570 is better than GTX 1060 3GB

and costs a lot less

also has 4GB

and there's an 8GB option for roughly $20 more

[silent steppe]

lmao

ye

[prime jasper]

260 for a 1060? that doesnt sound like a good deal

[silent steppe]

Intel i7 4820k
16 GB of ddr3 (1866 mhz)
120 GB ssd
1tb hdd
Gtx 1060

[prime jasper]

a 1660ti runs about that

[silent steppe]

260$

[prime jasper]

oh that thing

thought you were flipping it

[silent steppe]

ye

but in mean time

going to use it

takes a while to sell a pc for a set price on CL and fb market

[sour ivy]

No just because something has more vram doesn’t mean it’s better @mild bough

[latent light]

i7-4820K is a lot worse than i7-4790K

[mild bough]

oh

why ace

[latent light]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4820K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/16

[mild bough]

ace ventura

[latent light]

i7-4820K is identical to i7-2600K lmao

[mild bough]

all those numbers saays nothing

why cant they call it just like

good cpu, bad cpu, super good cpu

[latent light]

it's because the 4820k is Ivy Bridge-E

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATlYxYh4ApY

for gaming they seem about even

[silent steppe]

it has a liquid cooler too

[mild bough]

What is the price difference?

[supple bane]

I see a UK flag

[mild bough]

hi hugh

[supple bane]

Nypoo I need to go to bed, when I wake I want this fucking review you hear ?!?!

[latent light]

actually, 4820K is similar to 3770K

only difference is that the 4820K can use quad-channel memory

[silent steppe]

never oc'd cpu before

wonder whats possible

[storm osprey]

@supple bane ehh, we shall see

[latent light]

should try 4.2 GHz

[supple bane]

not much now a days

giga Hertz

[mild bough]

What does ghz mean in cpu context?

[latent light]

https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/758035-Overclocking-4820k @silent steppe

safest bet would be 4.4 GHz at 1.25v

[silent steppe]

on there rn

[supple bane]

giga Hertz @mild bough

[silent steppe]

is a blur for me lol

still

[mild bough]

yeah but what does it do and everything

[silent steppe]

what do you think i could flip it for tbh

[latent light]

you might be able to push 4.6 GHz at 1.35v but that's where things get hotter

[supple bane]

how many times a CPU cycles a second

4ghz would be 4 billion I THINK

[mild bough]

isnt 4 times a second very little?

oh

LOL

[supple bane]

4hz would be 4 times a second

4khz would be 4000

MHz would be 4000000

GHz is 4 billion

[storm osprey]

go to sleep

[mild bough]

too many zeros already

[supple bane]

no u

[storm osprey]

im at work

[supple bane]

doesn't mean you can't sleep

[storm osprey]

it most certainly does

[supple bane]

ehhh, agree to disagree

[mild bough]

disagree

it always works

[supple bane]

Nythaniel doesnt like me

he wants me to leave

guess I'll go cry my self to sleep

sobs

[mild bough]

lol

cry yourself to sleep, never heard it

[storm osprey]

leave

[supple bane]

but seriously I'm going to sleep now, if I wake up to no review I'm gonna be one angry Brit

[storm osprey]

because i care

[mild bough]

History has shown that an angry brit leads to no good

Be prepared

[silent steppe]

so nyphon

what would you think i could sell that for

if you had to speculate

[mild bough]

1000

cents

[prime jasper]

Id try 500 obo

[silent steppe]

probably list for 550 600 then

as its basically 500

since that OBO is just a way of making a buyer think theyre somehow getting a better deal

[mild bough]

Whats obo?

[storm osprey]

or best offer

i was thinking 400 but i really dont know without looking at all the parts and looking at local listings

[mild bough]

most people just think if it has rgb lights and looks expensive its super good

So if it has RGB lights and looks god like you can overprice it a little

[storm osprey]

tis true

[silent steppe]

honestly id suggest if youre buying used GPUs never buy anything amd off local markets, you WILL run into a lot of mined cards

if it seems to good to be true it probably fucking is

[latent light]

graphics cards aren't bad if they were used for mining

most competent miners undervolted the cards and don't use them to full utilization

mining is less stressful than gaming

[silent steppe]

i wouldnt go on the logic of a trend hopper tho

lot of people that fucked there cards that flip em on CL

when the mining trend came back in 2018 it was horrible

[latent light]

Most mining cards are treated very well as they are kept at a stable load, unlike gaming which gives you fluctuating loads

[silent steppe]

disagree

but thats ok

[latent light]

only thing you should worry about on a used mining GPU are the fans

miners often run the fans at 100% speed

which help keep the GPU components cool but fans wear out

As memory speed is the limiting factor, most of the miners with knowledge would have undervolted and underclocked their cards. Additionally, there’s not really evidence to support the idea that long term use at load shortens life. That’s basically what happens with server components and they’re more likely to get replaced due to no longer being good enough than failure. It’s possible the temperature changes of less consistent workloads, like gaming, do more to the card than a steady, relatively moderate temperature does.

any decent GPU should last over 5 years of consistent mining

[storm osprey]

LTT did a video of a brand new gpu vs a heavily mined gpu, no difference at all, thats not to say theres a difference in longevity but thats a factor you can never truly test

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGKaX1D9Zo

[silent steppe]

this pc is pretty nice

holy fuck tho alienware cases are fucking heavy

[fallen harbor]

my origin closes itself without no advice while updating it, right after launching it

anyone knows why this happens?

and it takes a lot to update actually

wth

[summer comet]

@fallen harbor best bet is to contact EA Support about that

[fallen harbor]

well okay

[prime jasper]

restart, try again

[summer comet]

Did you try turning it off and turning it back on again 😄

[fallen harbor]

closed again after 30 mins of updating

fk this

[coarse nimbus]

did you uninstall your origin client and redownload it?

[mint pendant]

Hi, is this normal? Having GPU Memory Restriction turned off in Battlefield V causes unplayable fps drops and stuttering for me.

I am talking drops into the single digits.

[fallen harbor]

id try to limit the frame rate to one that doesnt use 99% of your gpu

if thats the case

[unkempt plover]

Is this battlefield 5 tracker bugged? cause it wont show my stats

every time i tipe in my name and press enter it jumps back

[storm osprey]

bot probably down

hmm, site isnt loading stats either

[hoary ember]

can i change the 5700's blower fan to liquid cooling

[storm osprey]

i assume theres a kit to that, but unless you really dont like how loud blower gets, i dont think theres much performance gain

[hoary ember]

noise is not a problem for me

i am looking for 5700

and blowers are way more cheaper

is there any risk in using blower

[supple bane]

no

[hoary ember]

oh ok

thx

[storm osprey]

if youre wanting to put the cost of water cooling a 5700 i would just get a 5700xt

[hoary ember]

meh then i will go with blower 5700

[latent light]

blower 5700 isn't as hot or loud as blower 5700XT

[fallen harbor]

why is there no 1060ti? why is the 6gb version not called ti?

isnt that just confusing?

[supple bane]

did you only just realise the nvidia naming schemes suck ?

[fallen harbor]

i still prefer it over amd names

even though ive always used amd

[supple bane]

amd names areeee soooo much better

[storm osprey]

amd naming is way better..

[supple bane]

the 1660 series was a mess

[storm osprey]

we had this convo yesterday

[fallen harbor]

i still feel more orientated with nvidia names

[sour ivy]

Want a 1650?

[fallen harbor]

oops sorry shitty data

[sour ivy]

How about 1660

Oh wait 1600ti

1660ti

[supple bane]

before the gens went up in 100's

600 series, 700 series. 900 series

now it is going up in 1000 all of a sudden

except for 1660

[fallen harbor]

youre mot answering my question

[supple bane]

oh and 800 series doesnt exist for some reason

i did answer your question

NVidias names suck

.

[storm osprey]

why isnt the 1060 6gb called super? or boost? or ti?

idk, nvidia doesnt make sense

[fallen harbor]

why is the 4gb ver of 1050 called ti but the 6gb ver of 1060 is just a variant without any changes in the name?

[storm osprey]

nvidia doesnt make sense

[fallen harbor]

its just confusing

there must be a reason

[storm osprey]

indistinction could lead to more beneficial sales to nvidia?

"oh this is the 1060 everyone says is super good and its cheap"

its 1060 3gb

[fallen harbor]

how so

oh

[supple bane]

the 1060 6gb is a good gpu

the 3gb varient sucks

[storm osprey]

it doesnt suck, but if you hit that vram limit it does suck

[supple bane]

so when beginners see "1060" for cheap

they are tempted to buy it

[storm osprey]

which tbf, only triple a modern titles are really pushing 3gb at 1080p

[fallen harbor]

every gpu sucks if you hit the vram limit. The reason why the 3gb 1060 seems to suck is because its not much better than the 1050ti

[supple bane]

its loads better than the 1050ti

[storm osprey]

well really, the 3gb performs very slightly less than 6gb unless you hit vram limits

[fallen harbor]

i dont say its worse than the 1050ti

but for the price

it jusr doesnt seem worrh it

[storm osprey]

depends on price

[supple bane]

bro it doubles the fps of the 1050ti in some games

[storm osprey]

when i got my 1060 3gb it was WAY cheaper than the 6gb

granted this was during the gpu shortage

and this gpu was for my front room build where i play party games, so 3gb is perfect for me

[fallen harbor]

my message got deleted

[storm osprey]

dont say whatever you said

duh

[fallen harbor]

it wasnt even an insult

or offensive

lol

[storm osprey]

could be a word that is banned or close to banned

[fallen harbor]

well i said “wait theres a 4gb ver too?”

[storm osprey]

idk, its likely a bot delete with how fast it was

bot doesnt detect insults

you fricking frick loser

[fallen harbor]

no i said something else

i said kay em ess

[storm osprey]

oh yea thats not allowed

kay why ess is banned as well

[supple bane]

@fallen harbor

[storm osprey]

as well as the spelled out versions

[fallen harbor]

i understand kay why ess but never expected kay em ess

[storm osprey]

but no, there isnt a 4gb, was a typo

[fallen harbor]

oh okay

[supple bane]

theres a 5gb version tho

[fallen harbor]

btw ive built a pc for my sister out of spare parts with an r9 380 on a normie case (full of fans though) and even though its in a warmer room, it has a lot bettter temps than my rx590 in a thermaltake case : is this normal

[supple bane]

your comparing a very cool card to a very hot card

[fallen harbor]

oh didnt know the r9 380 was very cold

i assumed all and cards were blazing hot

all amd cards*

[supple bane]

relatively it is yeah

190w tdp to 250w tdp

[fallen harbor]

why is there no water cooling for gpus

[supple bane]

there is

[fallen harbor]

rly

[supple bane]

some gpu’s have water coolers built in or you can buy a water block just like a cpu

[fallen harbor]

why have i never seen it

[supple bane]

idk

[fallen harbor]

you can just put a regular cpu water cooling on your average gpu?

do gpus have the physical configuration for it

[supple bane]

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10694786882454813934?q=gpu+water+cooling+kit&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB844GB844&hl=en-GB&biw=414&bih=620&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=ACYBGNREjwcJk8dRvdMAoBtiYYoiL8cKbg:1569962963326&prds=epd:13611062724147753331,paur:ClkAsKraXxg1zNZsndWKyVPBzGNyVWQbU9bJ8Q6yHlbiFwnOQwINTljvzldwiBX19slaHSvZuQSLpnGPioPaPt8rU11te00AvVueZ3ox3-v-51q1O3dnQpOhUBIZAFPVH71bncdMVJP9c9a_amBrvNHHnzsWEQ,cdl:1,prmr:1,cs:1

that’s a gpu water block

[vocal marten]

no they are seperate coolers different config

[supple bane]

you just plumb that up to your water cooling loop same as you would for the cpu

[fallen harbor]

doesnt seem to be very expensive

is it worth it

[supple bane]

don’t forget you need a pump a reservoir you need tubing, liquid, radiators

it does get very expensive

[fallen harbor]

oh i see

[vocal marten]

yeah its kind of a pita

[supple bane]

it will cost around 400 pound for a decent gpu water cooling setup

[fallen harbor]

pita?

oh shit

[vocal marten]

pain in the ass lol but its fun

depends on what your doing with your system

[fallen harbor]

i just want my gpu to be cold even though i know its normally a hot gpu but uuuh yeah 400usd for that is deffo not worrh it

[latent light]

you can buy GPUs with AIO coolers built on

[fallen harbor]

whats AIO

[supple bane]

All in one

[latent light]

they are usually called Hybrids

[supple bane]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Hydro-Radiator-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B07B68T46Q/ref=asc_df_B07B68T46Q/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310773493424&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14177999331181056490&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045519&hvtargid=pla-457181695630&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

this is an aio

[fallen harbor]

i guess they probably arent even sold here at the moment

[silent steppe]

cleaning and organizing the guts of the alienware

[fallen harbor]

plus sounds even more expensive

[vocal marten]

aios are good if you are just starting out

[silent steppe]

holy fuck dell doesnt know how to fucking pack a pc

[latent light]

AIOs are $100 more expensive than normal air cooled GPUs

sometimes up to $200 more

[silent steppe]

had to use bolt cutters on part of the gpu shroud

which btw

who the fuck makes gpu shjrouds for cases in 2019

[fallen harbor]

is it worth it tho

[silent steppe]

yea

if you value quiet and little maintenance

[fallen harbor]

im askin about the hybrid thing

[silent steppe]

oh yeah

[vocal marten]

i like my pc to double as a space heater

[silent steppe]

hybrid cards are nice

lmao that reminds me of my 280x crossfire set up

and 290x setup

[vocal marten]

lmao

[silent steppe]

they arent meming when they say they are rockets

[vocal marten]

bet that thing spits out some heat man

[silent steppe]

fuckers are like 120 db minimum with 3rd party coolers

[vocal marten]

holy shit

[silent steppe]

290x atleast

280x xfx wasnt bad

but holy fuck amd drivers are horrible, havent used amd since 2016 tho so dont take that as fact

[vocal marten]

i havent bought a radeon card in forever so idk

i have a ryzen though and drivers seem fine but i have heard people having issues with gpus

driver wise that is

[silent steppe]

nvidia has a monopoly on modern gaming market

so its understandable why so many games are more optimized for there cards

[vocal marten]

yeah. im glad i got my card before the mining craze

[fallen harbor]

in my country nvidia cards are significantly more expensive than their amd counterparts

thats why i usually get amd

[silent steppe]

amd isnt bad

[fallen harbor]

even though im aware of nvidia being more professional or whatever

[vocal marten]

although prices have gone down quite a bit for gpus latley

[silent steppe]

i mean nvidia is better in software

i can pickup a vega64 for like 150~ used

[vocal marten]

yeah nvidia has better optimization and stuff but amd still has good cards

[silent steppe]

but id rather try my luck at finding a 1080 for 200-300

as then i dont have to worry about new games not being optimized

[vocal marten]

damn you have actually found a 1080 for 300?

around here people sell em for 450ish on craigslist

[silent steppe]

oh yeah

1080 duke for 350 rn obo

[vocal marten]

damn son

[silent steppe]

im busy trying to sell tho

going to try and flip and get to 1000$~

[vocal marten]

i got my 1080 a few years ago for 650 when they were on sale on newegg

[silent steppe]

then my goal is a 1080ti setup

[vocal marten]

hell yeah sounds like a solid set up

[silent steppe]

🙂

[vocal marten]

im going to wait a few years before i upgrade my gpu again

[silent steppe]

trying to sell 2 pcs and a board cpu

[storm osprey]

@fallen harbor i would never water cool unless i had a top of the line system

[fallen harbor]

y tho

[storm osprey]

the benefits are never worth the cost when you can just buy a better gpu for cheaper

ESPECIALLY for a 5700 and 5700xt

[fallen harbor]

i see

[vocal marten]

watercooling is more of a hobby thing imo

[fallen harbor]

i have a rx 590 though

but i see

ty

[storm osprey]

again, unless youre top of the line, its not worth it from a math stand point

[fallen harbor]

makes sense

[vocal marten]

rx 590 is a good card what kinda fps you get in bfv?

[storm osprey]

the cost of water cooling a 590 you would probably be better off saving the cost of water cooling and selling the 590 and getting a new gpu with that money

[fallen harbor]

i just didnt expect watercooling to be so much expensive

i didnt try bfv again since i got this card a month ago khan so idk

[vocal marten]

yeah its expensive once you add all the components up

[fallen harbor]

got kinda tired of this game ngl, im waiting for a modern setting bf

[vocal marten]

ahh gotcha

me too but al sundan and metro are bringing me back

[silent steppe]

man

i really just want private servers 24 7 grind, but im grinding my way IRL to a better system to run this game lol

[fallen harbor]

waiting for cod mw rn

[vocal marten]

i wish i could sell my old pc components but they are so old its not really worth it lol besides my chip i guess

[fallen harbor]

give it to some friend or whatever

so u can play gaymes together

thats what i did with my old pc parts

[silent steppe]

what specs

[fallen harbor]

put then together and gave it to my sis

[vocal marten]

i had a 9800gtx and a fx 6300

[silent steppe]

oh wow

lmao

yeah thats pretty old

[vocal marten]

still around here somewhere cant remember the motherboard lol

before that i was into radeon

i think my first card was a radeon 9100 or 9200

[fallen harbor]

the 9800gt was a beast

my first gpu was a 9400gt

tfw had that until 2013

[vocal marten]

haha its all good i had mine for a long time too

i was too young to build my first pc had to have my dad do it for me

[fallen harbor]

then i got an amd one which model i forgot and it died after one year and a half

was pretty mad

[vocal marten]

i only upgraded like 3 or 4 years ago because my psu took a shit and took the motherboard chip and gpu with it

[fallen harbor]

yikes

which gpu was it

[vocal marten]

yeah it sucked lol

i cant remember tbh

actually it was gtx470

[fallen harbor]

oic

[vocal marten]

yeah never cheap out and buy a raidmax psu

it will fry yourshit

[fallen harbor]

: (

[storm osprey]

2 things to not cheap out on, psu and mb

[silent steppe]

i will say, the cpu water cooler on this alien ware kinda look cool as fuck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628706001150803988/628706048068550676/20191001_163247.jpg

[fallen harbor]

back in 2015 my older "gamer" cousin (the cringy kind of gamer that call themselves a proud hardcore gamer) got a mac laptop for design and was excited about playing the new battlefront with it, he was sure it was the best possible machine to run such game because it had integrated graphics

i tried to explain but he got mad and called me an ignorant

[storm osprey]

at that point you just watch and smile

[silent steppe]

this is strange

the dude who sold me this pc has 2 8gb vengeance pro sticks installed and then 2x2gb sniper installed

said it only had 16gb lol

[storm osprey]

so you have 20gb?

[silent steppe]

yea

more appeal for flippin

ay

[storm osprey]

id bet the computer doesnt recognize the 2x2gb sticks

[molten bramble]

Same speed?

[silent steppe]

1866hz and 1600hz

[molten bramble]

ugh

[fallen harbor]

oh about that, i was thinking today, is it bad to have two kits of ram? like the case flavyyy mentioned. And also another question, is it any bad to have 3 sticks of ram?

[silent steppe]

rn im just cleaning the insides of this alien ware and managing cables so i can take some nice pics

[molten bramble]

It can bottleneck performance in some cases. For most people's needs, it won't matter.

[silent steppe]

that will for sure get a lot more interest on CL and marketplace

[molten bramble]

In gaming or rendering, it could have impacts.

[silent steppe]

^ yes but someone trying to buy this probably wont give a fuck

listing it for 600

[molten bramble]

Wasn't referencing your build, was answering Ando's question.

[silent steppe]

OH

srry then

[fallen harbor]

In gaming or rendering, it could have impacts.

which of the cases?

the two kits (4 sticks, two pairs being different) ? or 3 sticks?

[prime jasper]

as in instability or suboptimal performance

[silent steppe]

oof

ok so the powersupply is 875w

[prime jasper]

wee bit overkill

[fallen harbor]

ya

[silent steppe]

thats good tho

im trying to sell this

[fallen harbor]

is XT a good psu brand

[silent steppe]

overkill is 100% good for average craigslist buyer lmao

[prime jasper]

Hey could anyone tell me if I can run bfv at lowest graphics?I have 8 gigs ram, AMD ryzen 3 2200u, radeon vega 3 gfx

[silent steppe]

yea

get more ram

8gb isnt enough it will bottleneck

[prime jasper]

Ah

It's a laptop not sure if i can

[silent steppe]

your specs are good for a laptop, can you provide the model name?

[prime jasper]

Let me check

Hp pavillion 15-cw0000 @silent steppe

[silent steppe]

oh i read that wrong

i dont think so bro

[prime jasper]

Haha oof

Thanks, should be updating my PC soon tho

[silent steppe]

thats good, this is a great game lol

[hoary ember]

why do people say

gpus without ray tracing and AI is garbage after this

[sour ivy]

no u wont be able to run it @prime jasper

[last spoke]

hello all new here and was wondering if you could lend me some advice. My desktop rig is coming up on 5 or 6 years. i75930 k at 4.3 ghz GPU GTX 980 16 gb corsair vengence ram.I play on a 144hrtz gsync monitor at 1080p. As of right now this card and rig seems to hold up just fine on about everything i throw at it (besides the new ghost recon.....only got 60 fps barely). Question- Do i upgrade gpu and which rtx card would work with this cpu and motherboard. OR do i hold out and build a new rig in a year or 2? thanks and sorry for the long post

[prime jasper]

nah a new rig would be better to hold out for since your chipset is dead

[vocal marten]

id wait a year or 2 if your satisfied for now. prices should drop down by then too

[molten bramble]

Agreed with @prime jasper

[vocal marten]

then you should be able to get a nice rig to last for a while

[hoary lodge]

I need some help from someone if anyone know i had 16gbs ram, 1080ti and i7-8700k im getting between 60-80 frames on battlefield 5 and it randomly jumps to like 140 to 90 to 80 and so foruth ive messed with all my settings and i cannot figure out this for the life of me if someone is tech savy please help me out with this. its driving me insane

my temps are all normal i dont see any spikes or anything like it

its doing it in battlefield 1 aswell but its not as bad

about 100-140 all the time in bf1

bfv is from 60-160

and everywhere in between all the time

[last spoke]

i did something with disable windows optimization and it fixed all my lag and micro stutter

and fixed my fps spikes

thanks for the help all!

[lofty light]

@last spoke I had a 5820K for the same length of time as you, I'd only upgrade your GPU in future unless you want new motherboard features as that CPU is still mighty fine as is

[last spoke]

@lofty light So you think a new gpu would be a smart move? I have had people tell me that my cpu is still good and would be fine to get the rtx 260 or 270

i kinda wanna wait it out....bf5 and the new cod run great....

[lofty light]

Yeah then wait it out for now, I'd just reccomend that as your next purchase when it is an issue

[last spoke]

heck yeah thanks!

[vocal marten]

@last spoke what exactly did you disable?

ever since windows update ive been getting stutters so im wondering if windows re enable something like they usually do

[last spoke]

try and youtube disable windows optimization bf5 and it should show u.

hard to explain lol

[vocal marten]

cool thanks i think i remember doing it a while back

[last spoke]

go to game properties and its burried in there lol. also this discord and other game clients keep me micro lagging so disable those when in gam

[vocal marten]

yeah i usually run pretty smooth but lately ive had lots of micro stutters

not sure if its the new patch or something else

[last spoke]

its always something lol

[vocal marten]

pretty much. ive also noticed the servers are laggy lately too lots of people having issues with that

[last spoke]

Another random but interesting question. Before my gsync monitor i started off playing on a simple 60 hrtz monitor. i had horrible screen tearing and it has haunted me to this day. Can someone tell me that im crazy and im not currently seeing any screen tearing with gsync enabled. i have researched this for years lol

[prime jasper]

screen tearing is quite obvious

hell you can disable gsync and see the difference

[last spoke]

i have done that and i def see the obvious tearing with it off. i have also had friends play and tell me they think and they all say that its amazing and smooth as butter. i think it mental for me and i need to smoke another bowl or something

[prime jasper]

dont confuse microstutters with screen tears

the game has issues with the former

[last spoke]

true....i can tell the difference. Im just being crazy. Pc gaming has just been so fast compared to consoles and maybe sitting close to the screen at a desk has thrown my eyes off. who knows

[prime jasper]

yeah the screen should ideally be 12-18 inches away with the top roughly at eye level

any closer is too much

[vocal marten]

yeah arms length is best usually

[molten bramble]

True, years ago Microsoft was concentrating on that whole viewing experience thing with three different classifications of view range--the 12-inch view range was a relatively optimal average, dependent on the person.

[last spoke]

hmmmm interesting

[molten bramble]

That pre-dates smartphones though, so it's probably needing a fourth classification. I want to say the other two were 10-foot and 20/25-foot or something.

[prime jasper]

25 feet...yeah sure for a projector lmao

[molten bramble]

It was around the timeframe they were trying to develop web-enabled television programming.

I think it was D5 where Bill Gates was discussing it, but I could be wrong.

[vocal marten]

any recommendations for good networking books just like the essentials?

trying to get a good refresher

[prime jasper]

look for CompTIA Network+ guides

[vocal marten]

yeah i was looking but there are tons

ill find one. what about good youtube channels or something along those lines?

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4bp6lVv_E

[silent steppe]

soooo

i have an msi board with an i5 4440 i listed on craigslist, and just got an offer from a dude wanting to trade me an rx 580 nitro 8gb

should i do it?

[prime jasper]

yes

[silent steppe]

also im using the alienware with the 1060 and 4820k rn, wondering how to OC lmao

[latent light]

should be able to hit 4.4 GHz no problem

just don't go above 1.35v

[silent steppe]

going to push for 4.5

the cpu on this alienware is 875w

[latent light]

you mean psu

[silent steppe]

yeah

srry

[latent light]

also that CPU will degrade past 1.35v

[silent steppe]

fair enough

4.4ghz sounds nice

[molten bramble]

Opera came out with Opera GX, supposedly the world's first gaming browser: https://www.opera.com/client/welcome-gx It integrates things like Twitch into the UI, design controls, you can tweak the CPU/RAM usage, etc.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/332685248754352130/628795549151395880/unknown.png

[vocal marten]

ive heard about it but never actually looked into it. do you use it?

[molten bramble]

I am trying it out now.

[vocal marten]

let me know how it is. ill have to watch some vids on it

[fallen harbor]

is there any fix for the issue where any battlefield/battlefront game gets me only into empty servers?

because i cant browse servers on battlefront which along with this bug makes it literally unplayable

[maiden skiff]

Why can't you browse servers @fallen harbor?

[fallen harbor]

because battlefront has no server browser

its only by matchmaking

[maiden skiff]

Oh, I don't play Battlefront.

[slate rivet]

anyone got a trick to get into a password protected excel? someone at work forgot the password

[signal forge]

help1

emergency

anyone up?

[slate rivet]

whats up?

[signal forge]

my gpu usage is unstable

causing fps drops

[slate rivet]

may have better luck in #technology

[signal forge]

??? 😦

[slate rivet]

sorry didn't know i was here

[signal forge]

any way to solve this

[timber idol]

Anyone here to help?

[supple bane]

@signal forge gpu usage doesn’t cause FPS drops

Gpu usage isn’t a problem full stop

your FPS drops are coming from something else

[sour ivy]

Yes

Exactly

Sup @timber idol

[forest token]

discord go live (new streaming implementation) works on windows 7 now

at least on the Public test build

[sour ivy]

Windows 7

[forest token]

doesn't seem like it actually works though 😦

oh, it starts using upload when someone is actually watching

[swift lagoon]

more poeple that have issus with bfv?

i have with and witout raytracing craches that the game crachs to the desktop

[fallen harbor]

crashes*?

my game never really crashed

try verifying the game files or smthn

might be a dx problem

idk

are you by any chance from Chile?

@swift lagoon

what CPU do you have? and how much RAM?

[fallen harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/3WEAKvv.png

anyone knows which of this is the actual frame rate?

the game is battlefront 2

the origin fps display wont show for some reason, nor will the amd overlay

[prime jasper]

use the console commands to show it

[fallen harbor]

the picture i posted is what the console command shows

i used perfoverlay.drawfps 1

but im unsure of what that information means since it's less straight forward than the result battlefield games give

[prime jasper]

yeah the gpu is probably correct

[fallen harbor]

so 97fps?

trying to limit the frame rate a bit so my gpu doesnt go 99% load

[prime jasper]

whats your monitor refresh rate?

[fallen harbor]

60hz

[prime jasper]

then lock it to 60

[fallen harbor]

i dont want to limit it to 60fps because i also want to have the least input lag possible

but at the same time not using 99% of the gpu cause that causes more input lag

so i think 100fps would be a sweet spot

[prime jasper]

I really dont think youre going to have that issue to any noticeable effect

[fallen harbor]

i do notice it

[prime jasper]

especially if vsync is off

doesnt radeon have some anti-lag thing?

[viscid trellis]

Guys, is a i5 7600k really that bad?

[fallen harbor]

the anti-lag thing does the same thing im trying to do but automatically but its not supported by my gpu anyway

[prime jasper]

what gpu?

[fallen harbor]

rx590

[viscid trellis]

1070

[prime jasper]

sure you dont need a driver update?

[swift lagoon]

@fallen harbor I have a 9900k with a 32gb ram and a rtx 2080ti

[fallen harbor]

Guys, is a i5 7600k really that bad?```
i think you probably would want a i5 8400 instead

[prime jasper]

and yes a 7600k is about minimum spec for thsi game

you cant upgrade past a 7700k on your board

[viscid trellis]

so it should run, right?

[fallen harbor]

it should

[prime jasper]

should yes, just dont expect blistering fps

[viscid trellis]

i expect 60 fps

[prime jasper]

should work

[viscid trellis]

but I cant get it with ultra settings neither with low settings

[fallen harbor]

you should get 60fps on medium settings i presume

whats your gpu

[viscid trellis]

I put the lowest settings with a lower resolution and still no 60 fps

gtx 1070

[fallen harbor]

huh

[prime jasper]

what resolution?

[viscid trellis]

well, I play bfv with 1920x1080

[fallen harbor]

your gpu is more than enough, it might be a bottleneck by either your cpu or your ram, or your psu even, idk

[prime jasper]

and Im assuming you arent using single channel ram, that would by why if so

[viscid trellis]

how can I see that?

[prime jasper]

cpu-z

[fallen harbor]

or open cmd

and type wmic memorychip get speed

if you dont have cpu-z that is

[viscid trellis]

ok I typed it in my console

[fallen harbor]

if you get two speeds then you got dual channel

[viscid trellis]

and it says speed 2x 2933

[prime jasper]

thats good

[viscid trellis]

ok

[fallen harbor]

did you try disabling dx12

[prime jasper]

run the game with task manager open, you'll probably notice a bottle neck like cpu pegged at 99/100 or something

[viscid trellis]

ok

[fallen harbor]

@swift lagoon damn thats a super overkill pc u got there, nice

[viscid trellis]

ok, my cpu is capped at 90%+

oh now it´s at 50

[prime jasper]

only 50 in game?

[viscid trellis]

yeah

[fallen harbor]

[prime jasper]

you can try turning ffr on or switch to dx12 if you havent

its all worth a shot

[viscid trellis]

ffr?

[prime jasper]

future frame rendering

[viscid trellis]

allright

[swift lagoon]

i play the game again and the same issus, with rtx on

thanks btw;)

[prime jasper]

huh?

[viscid trellis]

how tf is my game working now?

[prime jasper]

magic

[swift lagoon]

i have the same with battlefront 2 btw

also return to desktop

[fallen harbor]

only with rtx on?

[viscid trellis]

thank you @fallen harbor & @prime jasper ❤

[swift lagoon]

in bfv yes

battlefront have not rtx in the game

[supple bane]

yeah if you play with rtx on you will get bad fps ?

[fallen harbor]

are you from chile or not pls i wanna know

[swift lagoon]

with oc disabled, and with rtx on and off, crachs the game to desktop

[prime jasper]

its drops it quite a bit yes @supple bane

[supple bane]

ik

[swift lagoon]

i play ythe game on 3440x1440 and i have 80/110fps on max settings

[supple bane]

thats what i was saying lol, it wasnt a question

good for you ?

[fallen harbor]

if he ignores me it only means he is indeed from chile

[supple bane]

what makes you think he is from Chile ?

[fallen harbor]

i dont wanna say it until i get an answer

just in case

if you know it dont say it either pls

[prime jasper]

lmao wut

[fallen harbor]

i just wanna know

@swift lagoon are you from Chile?

if i may know

[supple bane]

so you have no evidence that he is from Chile, its just a guess ?

[fallen harbor]

no

there's a clue

[supple bane]

[prime jasper]

[fallen harbor]

i guess he doesnt want to reveal his country

[swift lagoon]

i from the nederlands

[fallen harbor]

oh nvm then

[prime jasper]

close enough

[supple bane]

what made you think he was from Chile ?

[swift lagoon]

haha

[prime jasper]

same planet

[fallen harbor]

the clue was he was typing ch instead of sh and chileans often can't differentiate the ch sound from the sh sound

i usually hear chileans pronouncing ch in english words where its actually sh

like chadow instead of shadow

[swift lagoon]

but, what is the problem in my case?

[supple bane]

thats just an accent lol

[fallen harbor]

if they arent good enough with english they will also type ch

instead of sh

[prime jasper]

the problem was the typo that allowed him to establish that you did indeed exist on the same planet

[fallen harbor]

if they forget the actual spelling that is

[prime jasper]

just not the same continent

[fallen harbor]

stfu

[prime jasper]

lel

[fallen harbor]

this often works!

[prime jasper]

often
0/1 here champ

[fallen harbor]

its the first time i try to guess here

no bully pls

[prime jasper]

its ok, if I ever join a LATAM server Ill do that to troll them

[fallen harbor]

btw is the game supposed to run smoother or worse with dx12 on? assuming i have the right hardware for it

does dx12 offer better graphics at the cost performance?

or the other way around

or increase in both

[prime jasper]

its not 'better' inherently, but it is required for DLSS and RTX

[fallen harbor]

whats DLSS?

[prime jasper]

deep learning super sampling

nvidia shit

[fallen harbor]

so no point at all in turning it on on an amd i presume

[prime jasper]

just depends, it doesnt hurt to try

maybe it'll be better for you

[fallen harbor]

ic

[swift lagoon]

play you the game with dlss on?

of taa?

[prime jasper]

huh?

[storm osprey]

i think they are asking if you play with dlss on

[prime jasper]

nope

no need

[vocal marten]

did the new nvidia driver do anything for bf?

[prime jasper]

doesnt look like it but I update anyway

[vocal marten]

i didnt see anything either, im just wary of downloading new drivers usually causes issues at first lol

[fallen harbor]

is there any way to use a ps4 controller with a generic bluetooth dongle?

on pc i mean

cause i have one but i dont see any way to set it on

[storm osprey]

isnt that the normal way to do it?

just go to windows, go to bluetooth, and look for something like "pair bluetooth device"

[fallen harbor]

tahts what i do

but its stuck there

https://i.imgur.com/K614eiw.png

it detects it but wont connect it

[prime jasper]

may not be compatible

[fallen harbor]

: (

[storm osprey]

could try to plug controller via wire first and then try again

[noble turret]

is buying a gtx 1080 STRIX for $250 worth it

[sour ivy]

yes

[supple bane]

yeah

[storm osprey]

easily

[fallen harbor]

seems like its a pretty damn good deal

to me

[noble turret]

ok

good

[supple bane]

actually, what are your current specs ?

[noble turret]

rx 480 as a gpu

i7 8700k

[supple bane]

oh yeah

2000%

[noble turret]

16gb ddr4 ram @ 300 mhz

[storm osprey]

1080 would be a good pairing

[sour ivy]

480

tf

[noble turret]

rx 480 man

it was a good card in 2016 haha

still runs bfv on high fine so ya know

1080p of course.

[supple bane]

i was going to say, if you had a really weak cpu and stuff it probs wouldnt be worth it

[noble turret]

yea

8700k should suit me for quite some time

[storm osprey]

i assume used?

[noble turret]

yea used

[supple bane]

make sure you eint getting scammed

[noble turret]

just for gaming

yea i made sure of it

[supple bane]

send a link ?

[noble turret]

person is local

know him irl

[supple bane]

oh

[noble turret]

warranty expired in july unfortunately

[storm osprey]

he isnt planning on moving soon is he?

[noble turret]

if i did this deal i could just get a new card right haha

[supple bane]

[noble turret]

@storm osprey nah

[storm osprey]

if you did this deal you could get a new card?

[noble turret]

no im saying if i did it b4 warranty lol

[supple bane]

question, do people actually buy used pc's ?

ik it can sometime depend on the area and such

but i really want to start flipping pc's as a side gig, but i dont know weather it will actually work/be profitable

[fallen harbor]

afaik the people with the lowest budgets usually look for used pcs

[supple bane]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/i7-6700-Quad-Core-Gaming-Tower-16GB-DDR4-PC-Computer-gtx-1050-Windows-10/274032006892?hash=item3fcd9496ec:g:thgAAOSwJcNdkNJb

for exampple

take the 1050 out, sell that, buy an rx 580

done

[silent steppe]

oc'ing my msi 1060 3gb

[fallen harbor]

can you play multiplayer through ps4 remote play?

[silent steppe]

got it too 1900

[sour ivy]

Yes ando

But I’d recommend a strong connection

Otherwise you’ll get clapped

[fallen harbor]

all games say they cant connect

when i try to log in from my pc

im trying to play bloodborne from my pc with a friend

[supple bane]

@silent steppe mines at 2100

that was on stock voltage too

[oak kelp]

biches

[supple bane]

excuse me ?

[storm osprey]

lol what?

[prime jasper]

biches and hos

[supple bane]

oi

[storm osprey]

birch and hose

[supple bane]

dont encourage this behaviour

we're meant to be the role models

[storm osprey]

for what?

[supple bane]

the server i guess, i was mostly being sarcastic

[storm osprey]

i represent cats

thats it

[supple bane]

[oak kelp]

deammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[supple bane]

you gud ?

[oak kelp]

😋

no

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-stop-it-get-some-help-gif-14702290

[oak kelp]

what should i do????????????????????

[supple bane]

idk, stop spamming character for a start

[sour ivy]

Where’s the mute

Just pre mute him hehee

[oak kelp]

sorry

[storm osprey]

what is the problem dark

[kindred knot]

What if your country was invaded? Would you submit or fight?

Most don't answer because of the fear they let in.

[prime jasper]

on todays episode of 'Non-sequitors'

[hoary ember]

well syrians did the 3rd choice

[kindred knot]

On today. Freedom is not a matter to them in this chat.

Syrians are fighting for their lives. Not only freedom

[hoary ember]

few of them are fighting

[supple bane]

mumbles busteddddd

[latent light]

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-surface-edition?fbclid=IwAR23AdRFeQDNsQ9LqfwPL_iEW0AOwMzc8NDurHZdNDzEP82bQ6Ll4ZyFOWQ

new Surface laptop uses a new exclusive Ryzen CPU

[hoary ember]

includes ryzen 73780u and ryzen 5 3580u

[silent steppe]

aight dudes comin in like 30 mins to trade an rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro for my i5 4440 and board

is dat a good trade

[storm osprey]

sounds about even to me

[placid talon]

i have a i7 9700K and a GTX 1660 Ti

[supple bane]

good for you ?

[placid talon]

yea

i will upgrade to a RTX 2080

in a couple years

anyways

i have to go

see ya

[supple bane]

ooooooookkkkkkk?

[placid talon]

gn

[molten coral]

I've a intel celeron and a on board graphics card.

[supple bane]

brooo, me too

500mb ram

but I have an rgb gaming chair so because of that I get 1000fps at 8k

[latent light]

9700k and 1660ti aren't a good pair tbh

[silent steppe]

yo

so 1080 ti or rtx series card

[storm osprey]

depends on pricing imo

[latent light]

RTX 2080 non-super is like $650

[silent steppe]

how do they compare

[latent light]

2080 is barely faster than 1080ti

[storm osprey]

1080ti is 3% faster than 2070 super

[latent light]

less than 5% difference

[violet plank]

i'd say the other way round 😛

1080ti are usually very good in oc

well you get rtx cores on the 2080,but they are useless

[silent steppe]

1080ti, what cpu should ya get

[violet plank]

unless you wanna play with 30 fps

hard to say cause they are all used ones

[vestal falcon]

phenom x4 955 lol

[silent steppe]

lol

[latent light]

Ryzen 7 3700X is good to pair with 1080ti

[violet plank]

yep,agree on that

[vestal falcon]

where find money for that?

[violet plank]

running that combo atm