technology

[fallen harbor]

my cpu is i5 8400

was thinking of getting a 1660ti but i just saw how the RX 590 is literally half the price for only like 15% of less performance

[supple bane]

you would get more than 1080p 60 fps with that

closer to 100 fps

[steady chasm]

@fallen harbor https://youtu.be/v7pLfD2tlA0 this might help :)

[fallen harbor]

thanks love

[latent light]

@fallen harbor Sapphire Pulse RX 590 is the best choice

unless it's out of stock or overpriced

it only requires a single 8-pin connector

[fallen harbor]

is sapphire pulse just a brand

or something technical

[latent light]

Sapphire is a brand

Pulse is the model

[fallen harbor]

i think i have a 8 pin connector

from the psu if thats what you mean

the r9 380 uses 8 pin

i think

[latent light]

R9 380 uses 2 cables

RX 590 only uses 1 cable

[fallen harbor]

uh oh

then nope

[latent light]

you can still use it

[fallen harbor]

does this mean i cant use a 590? yikes

oh

my psu has 2 connectors of 6 pins each

how do you use that in a 590?

[latent light]

each cable is actually 6+2 pin

some 590s use 2 cables

some only use 1

[fallen harbor]

hmm youre right, i can see the additional 2

[latent light]

the ones that use 2 cables are overclocked out of box

[fallen harbor]

590 uses 16 pins in total?

[latent light]

Sapphire Pulse uses 1 PCIe cable which means less power consumption and less heat

is the RX 590 literally half the price of a 1660Ti for you?

[fallen harbor]

yes

1660ti is 30k pesos and RX 590 is 15k pesos

literally half

https://i.imgur.com/M5r5UcF.png

[latent light]

damn wtf

[fallen harbor]

is this what you mean

[latent light]

oh you have a Sapphire R9 380 lol

yes you'd only need to use 1 cable

[fallen harbor]

however both of these gpus (and actually every single gpu on earth) are overpriced. 15k pesos is 255 usd and 30k pesos is 510 usd

so the 590 here is like 255usd

[latent light]

wtf

[fallen harbor]

and the 1660ti like 510 usd

i live in a shit third world country i usually need to mention this very often here

because of the price diferences

[latent light]

cheapest RX 590 here is $190, cheapest 1660Ti is $270

[fallen harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/yamDfuZ.png

1 usd = 59 pesos

huh the 1660ti is actually like 24k, not 30k ,my bad https://i.imgur.com/jOkSiQS.png

guess i mistook it for some other

24k pesos = 390 usd

23 actually is closer to the average

[latent light]

yeah that Sapphire Pulse is probably the best RX 590 in terms of performance, value, noise and temperatures

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-590-100415p8gl/p/N82E16814202333?item=N82E16814202333&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+cards+-+amd%2Fati-_-N82E16814202333&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwIPrBRCJARIsAFlVT8_QlNwqHhh8cvMhhg5IzYKFmyPZsPtOKvpt9fEVTMv8NatOeoUr7V0aAmGVEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Pulse is only $195 here

[fallen harbor]

should i go for this instead of 1660ti?

i cant buy abroad anyway

[rigid knoll]

Anyone else have their pc waking up again by "UpdateOrchestrator" recently? Even if that task is disabled. Also no updates available. gg

[fallen harbor]

uh no?

[latent light]

this is a pretty good deal

although it is single fan

and triple slot

[fallen harbor]

whats wrong with triple slot?

im completely ignorant about it

[latent light]

it's thick

see if you have room for this

[fallen harbor]

oh i see

[latent light]

takes up 3 slots on the case

[fallen harbor]

why not the one at its right though

it has two fans

and isnt much more expensive

https://i.imgur.com/wd2Q9ml.png

[latent light]

smaller heatsink

probably gets hot

[fallen harbor]

oh

how can you tell it has a small heatsink tho

im not questioning you

its just that i cant tell

https://i.imgur.com/b5uIouZ.png

[latent light]

may not be bad

Colorful is the top brand in China

[fallen harbor]

this i understand https://i.imgur.com/ozBJaRk.png

heatsink is hardly visible

[latent light]

yeah that's like a CPU stock cooler heatsink

trying to find more angles on that colorful one

it's decent

[fallen harbor]

so is a 1660ti that is worth 390usd more convenient than a 590 that is worth 255usd?

aesthetically ugly tho

not that it really matters

[latent light]

no lol

[fallen harbor]

idk imo

[latent light]

costs 42% more for 15% more performance

[fallen harbor]

doesnt sound very convenient

[latent light]

also less memory

1660Ti has 6GB

RX 590 has 8GB

[fallen harbor]

as far as im aware the amount of memory isn't everything

that considering i know close to nothing about these things

[latent light]

8GB is only useful for ultra settings

6GB can handle ultra settings in most games anyway

[fallen harbor]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-590-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti/4033vs4037

[latent light]

that's userbenchmark though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKG9jRRmsGs

[fallen harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/W95mEys.png

that's userbenchmark though```
what does this mean

[latent light]

userbenchmark isn't accurate

[fallen harbor]

hm

[latent light]

it uses a very specific workload that doesn't reflect the same performance as games

[fallen harbor]

i watched that video some moments ago and it kinda convinced me to go for the 590 tbh

is the ms value the input delay?

https://i.imgur.com/aB63s9Y.png

cause this is

extremely important for me

if one has significantly better response time than the other, ill go for it

[latent light]

that's the time between each frame

[fallen harbor]

oh nvm then

is that info known anyway?

like

is any brand known to have a lesser response time than others?

or this depends absolutely on the games in question?

i had to go through some annoying configurations on csgo in order to make it playable to my standard

[latent light]

how much does Vega 56 cost for you

[fallen harbor]

i dont think it exists here

cant find a solid answer

https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/vega-56#D[A:vega 56]

and the prices are all very different from eachother

but the cheapest one is 813 usd

so nvm

[latent light]

RX 590 and GTX 1660Ti gets same performance in csgo for some reason

[fallen harbor]

i want to have fast reponse time in all first person shooter games

as fast as possible

[latent light]

RX 5700 series has Radeon Anti-lag

which reduces input lag some

[fallen harbor]

i think that one hasnt gotten here yet either

[latent light]

makes less a difference the higher your fps is though

AMD said Anti-lag is optimal for framerates between 60 and 100 fps

[fallen harbor]

i dont think i could afford it anyway

i think its very expensive

[latent light]

yeah 5700 is $350 usd here

which would be like $500 or more for you

[fallen harbor]

found it

its around $540

32k pesos

yeah not worth it

[latent light]

how much is an RX 580

[fallen harbor]

same as 590

for some reason

[latent light]

cheapest RX 580 here is $160 which is pretty incredible

[fallen harbor]

anyway i asked about the response time thing because a friend of mine uses a 1050 and he has high input lag in games, like ,not terribly, a normie could never tell, but he cant aim for shit in fps games

i went to his house and noticed the input lag is kinda high

and i couldnt aim for shit either

could it be the gpu or the mouse?

or something else

i dont want to buy a gpu that has that problem

[latent light]

depends on the games

[fallen harbor]

we tried overwatch

[latent light]

1050 2GB can play overwatch at 100+ fps easily

[fallen harbor]

yes

we did that

actually he runs the game better than my pc

i run it at like 90

in all low

i set it in low in order to have more fps hence less response time

he does the same but he has a lot of response time

and even more frame rate than I

and idk why

[latent light]

overwatch runs worse on low settings if you don't have an amazing CPU

play on medium

or high

[fallen harbor]

anyway but do u get what i mean

maybe nvidias are just worse at response time than amd? idk

[latent light]

overwatch is better optimized on nvidia iirc

[fallen harbor]

amerika eggsplane

my current gpu has decent resopnse time (according to me at least, comparing previous experiences)

so i guess its safe to assume another amd or sapphire card will do as well

and my friend has a lot of input lag with nvidia

thats the only thing that makes me doubt

[latent light]

does he get stutter

[fallen harbor]

no

he runs the game at a solid 110~ frame rate

without stutter

its just that he has high input lag, high enough to be a bother while aiming

[latent light]

weird

[fallen harbor]

🤷

[latent light]

that RX 590 that's 15k pesos is probably your best bet

[fallen harbor]

yeah i guess

[latent light]

why are some 15k and others 18k though even though same card

warranty?

[fallen harbor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the one that is 18k says it can be paid in 12 dues

i guess thats it

anyway ty for your time

im going to bed cause im dying

[pallid silo]

specs: ryzen 7 3700x vega64 oc/uv

I have an avermedia 4k live gamer in my pc if i was to use this in my streaming software would this help with performance at all? ( i normally use this card for console games)

[mild bough]

i have no idea what live gamer is, so soryr

[naive granite]

@latent light try to save up some money, and buy the Radeon RX 5700 or 5700xt. I how they are a lot of money, but for a amd graphics card they are pritty good.

[supple bane]

?

he was recommending a card for @fallen harbor not looking at getting one him self

[naive granite]

K

[hoary ember]

bfv was stuttering

reinstalled the game and stuttering was gone

lul wat

[violet plank]

new amd gpu rumors,i highly doubt those

Navi 23 (92 CUs) = around 2.3x performance than the RX 5700XT

[steep gust]

uh that is gonna be insanely hard to cool

[violet plank]

92!CU's,good luck with cooling that

haha

even if it would be in chiplet design

[supple bane]

it will be the first quad fan gpu

[steep gust]

chiplet GPUs probably wont' happen

[supple bane]

actually, that might be a thing

[violet plank]

4 slot

[supple bane]

quad fan 5 slot

[violet plank]

8x8 pin

[steep gust]

uh that been done before

palit has a quad fan gpu

[supple bane]

eh, there is a 7 fan gpu out there so

[supple bane]

oh that doesnt count lol

well i guess it does

but that isnt as impressive

[violet plank]

i don't wanna imagine the noise levels of that card lol

[steep gust]

voodoo 5 was huge

[supple bane]

the 7 fan boi is different, its fans are on the side, instead of on the bottom, and they are like 20mm fans

and there is 7 of them in a row

[violet plank]

the link,i really doubt that stuff

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1097323-navi-2123-cards-rumored-aka-nvidia-killers-xd/

[steep gust]

oh that's their source

[violet plank]

yeah lol

[steep gust]

what one engineer might have said

also just adding more cores doesn't scale linearly

[violet plank]

tflops vs tflops,useless anyways

[steep gust]

RX 5900XT @ 20.7 TFLOPS vs. 2 x RTX 2080ti @ 16.81-24.88 TFLOPS (FPS gains of 25%-85%) that isn't how that works

Titan V does 110 tflops

[violet plank]

ppl are intel damaged,higher numbers = better !

i only read the japanese link,it says like nothing at all,like look at that,that looks big,so can be anything and nothing lol

[steep gust]

titan v vs 2080ti

rtx titan

so depending on what you do, a Titan V should be the best GPU ever right?

I mean tflop > gflop

[violet plank]

does the 2080ti even have double precision ?

[steep gust]

iirc no its really nuked

[supple bane]

my motherboard is coming tommorow, and i already have butterflies lol

im really dreading my 2600 being dead too

in theory, it should be fine, but still

[steep gust]

I know someone who killed the pcie lanes on their 2600

just the lanes

[supple bane]

all of them ?

[steep gust]

I think so

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-stress-baby-crying-cry-gif-8768811

[steep gust]

so he has the 4 chipset lanes left

[supple bane]

in theory, the resistor blew, so the power should have been stopped right there before it could even get to the cpu

and would a 3v shock for like not even a second even kill a cpu ?

[steep gust]

power planes are separated

it might really harm the core clocks but in theory the VRM should stop it

the person who killed their pcie lanes had 12v rammed right into it from their psu

[supple bane]

so did i tho....

[steep gust]

and it still works

but your VRM / PSU didn't fail

[supple bane]

yes but he cant use a gpu right ?

[steep gust]

chipset lanes

[supple bane]

oh right

[steep gust]

performnance is shit

but it still works

[supple bane]

well if it still works it should be able to get it on warrenty

amazon doesnt care

[steep gust]

nah it was user damage

and months old

I think he is gonna kill it under ln2

Realistically your CPU is probably fine

[supple bane]

is sata power 12v?

[steep gust]

3.3v or 5v iirc

[supple bane]

oh thats not tooooo bad

[steep gust]

and 12v

[supple bane]

what to you mean, "and"?

[steep gust]

it depends on the thing its plugged into

[supple bane]

oh

[steep gust]

There is a lot of pins

[supple bane]

well it was an wired rgb controller

[steep gust]

which brand?

deepcool right?

[supple bane]

yep

[steep gust]

that works on 12v rip

it still shouldn't touch the board

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-concerned-scared-gif-4499847

[steep gust]

the CPU 12v power planes

and motherboard 12v power planes

are separate

[supple bane]

ik ik, its just im not gonna stop panicking

what ever you say

[steep gust]

yeah its scary

but everything I know about motherboards points to it being alive

and unless your VRM was damaged (12v would be visible most likely) it shouldn't even have touched it

[supple bane]

well its under a heat sheild thing

ill take it off and have a gander

[steep gust]

does the board just 00?

when booting

[supple bane]

it doesnt even have a number thingy i dont think

[steep gust]

oh rip

it probably is 00

[supple bane]

it doesnt do anything

i can say that

[steep gust]

which generally means dead board

like no lights nothing?

[supple bane]

nope

[steep gust]

then yeah sounds like a dead board

[supple bane]

would make sense, i rammed a lighting bolt up its arse

The vrms are the little grey boxes right ? @steep gust

[violet plank]

yes,and weird vrm layout btw

11 vrms,wtf

[steep gust]

that's a choke

the mosfets are under the heatsink

probably like an 8+3

[violet plank]

seems like 5+1 layout

[steep gust]

or yeah doublers

[violet plank]

5 doubled

but that solo 1 lol

[steep gust]

but yeah take the heatsink off

if the VRM ate 12v it would be visible

[violet plank]

yeah,don't see anything damaged either

[supple bane]

there aer a few mosfets above the socket its self and they are perfectly fine

there isnt any scorch marks around the board either

so what is the part i need to take off ?

is it the little grey boxes ?

[violet plank]

if anything has blown up,you would see it,and smell it,it's a horrible smell

[supple bane]

well yes

things have blown up

but its on the other side of the board

[violet plank]

ah

got a pic of it ?`

[supple bane]

ye

[violet plank]

courious

[steep gust]

nah leave the board components alone

don't rip off a choke

[supple bane]

My phone wouldn't focus on it

And there

[steep gust]

yeah stuff near the 24 pin

[supple bane]

is that a good thing or a bad thing ?

[steep gust]

good for your cpu

[violet plank]

is that the memory ic that has burn marks ?

[steep gust]

no the ram vrm looks fine

[violet plank]

not the vrm,the controller chip

can't read it anyways

[fallen harbor]

anyone knows how to access the content of a site that has been eliminated?

I know it is possible for some cases but Idk how

[steep gust]

contact the site host

[wanton prairie]

Any good gaming mouses that cost under £20?

[supple bane]

technet raptor pro

i used to have one, for the price, they are amazing

[wanton prairie]

Thanks

I'll order that soon

[supple bane]

it has software, which is a rare occurrence on budget mice

[wanton prairie]

Cool

[supple bane]

admittedly it has a cheap build, but every budget mouse will have that

[wanton prairie]

Wait does it have a USB?

[supple bane]

yes

[mild bough]

every good mouse has USB

[supple bane]

[mild bough]

lol

[supple bane]

logitech g502 lightspeed?

its wireless

[mild bough]

it is latenct

[supple bane]

and its arguably the best mouse on the market atm

[mild bough]

which could be lethal for proffesionals og tryhards

[supple bane]

what is latenct?

[mild bough]

Latency*

[supple bane]

it doesnt have an lag

[mild bough]

Impossible to spell on my phone

[supple bane]

like nothing

[wanton prairie]

Looking at the mouse on amazon doesn't seem to have a USB

[supple bane]

it is usb i promise

[mild bough]

It probably isnt much tho, considering it is 2019

[supple bane]

no, there isnt any lag period

like i said, its the best all round mouse on the market atm

[mild bough]

But what is the thing with ultralight mouses costing like a 1000$

[supple bane]

what type of mouse have you been looking at ?

[mild bough]

I prefer heavier mouses, I do not get why people like them light

A mouse that weighs like 20g

[supple bane]

the lightest mouse on the market atm is the glorious model O

its 50 bucks

[mild bough]

And weight?

[supple bane]

52 grams or something like that

[molten coral]

Love heavy mouses so much better then those lightweights

[mild bough]

Yeah same

[supple bane]

what mouse do yall use ?

[wanton prairie]

My mouse at the moment may have a broken scroll wheel or the scroll wheel scrolls too fast

[molten coral]

G502 with all weights

[supple bane]

g502 hero for me

eyy

[mild bough]

But atleast where I live there are mouses like 20g, I use a logitech mouse. Not quite what its called tho

[steep gust]

@mild bough wireless mouse are pretty much equal or better to wired

[mild bough]

hmm

[supple bane]

thats what i am saying

[mild bough]

not when i were young

jk

[supple bane]

the g502 lightspeed is one of if not THE best mouse you can buy rn

[mild bough]

just heard a lot of people saying that they have latenct

latency*

[supple bane]

no, no they dont

[steep gust]

mouse is subjective

some people won't like the weight or the shape

etc

[mild bough]

yeah

[supple bane]

i cant complain about the g502 hero

i love it

[mild bough]

someone like mouses with many buttons on it, some dont. I prefer mouses with as little as possible, much easier to concentrate

[supple bane]

the g502 just fits perfectly in my hand, the buttons are right on my finger tips, its just perfect

[mild bough]

Oh yeah

I used to have that mouse

it was so good

like, the perfect amount of buttons. And you can adjust the weight

[supple bane]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-G502-Proteus-Core-Mouse-/392317119634?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

mmmmmhmmmmmm

1.1k. for a g502

[mild bough]

hmmm

quite interesting

[wanton prairie]

Oh god what have I done

[supple bane]

?

[mild bough]

Done what?

@wanton prairie

[wanton prairie]

It's fine

[mild bough]

hwat happend?

[hoary ember]

rival 110 is the ideal gaming mouse i think

[forest token]

I have had a bad experience with my steelseries rival with the rubber

replaced it with a corsair m65 and then got a g502 which I love but had trouble with adjusting to at first in bfv

I love the g502 buttons

[mild bough]

agreed

[hoary ember]

110 does not have rubber

rubber ones suck

[solemn tusk]

@prime jasper Hey bud, keep Youtube videos to the #streams-and-videos channel.

[sour ivy]

^

@solemn tusk kiss me

[solemn tusk]

Hmmmmm

alright

[sour ivy]

Yay

[dusky roost]

Hey, hoping someone can help. Recently on BFV, my banners on the main menu are only showing the practice range, I've tried repairing my game. I'm not sure how to fix it. It's quite annoying because I can't easily get to the weekly chalanges and such. any one having a similar issue?

[mild bough]

What banners?

[hoary ember]

At the armory i can not see anything there is no light at all

Using ryzen cpu and dx12

[supple bane]

@steep gust

look at the cpu

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-dance-happydance-gif-5027512

[maiden grove]

I always lag when I play with my friends in a squad. Anyone got a clue why? I’m on xbox

[supple bane]

its because your on xbox and not on pc

[maiden grove]

Great help man, lemme just go buy a pc

[latent light]

we can't do anything about xbox problems, usually that's something microsoft support has to help with

although it could be a BF5 only problem

[distant stratus]

My game crashes every 20 min i have rtx 2060 16gb ram 1tb ssd ryzen 5 2600

I tried lowering game settings i updated drivers i unintalled n reinstalled the game

[latent light]

@distant stratus https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/bf5-random-freezes-on-high-end-system/td-p/7319669

maybe common

looks like bad binned VRAM on RTX cards can be an issue

[distant stratus]

Thanks boss ill check on that

How would i check to see if my vram or rtx card is messed up i can play csgo age of empires

[latent light]

BF5 problem I think

[distant stratus]

N games dont crash

But its so constant its crazy

[latent light]

maybe windows

[distant stratus]

Yea my last resort was to uninstall windows

[latent light]

does it ever have any stuttering or low fps

[distant stratus]

Some what yes at times feels like playing on xbox haha

Not really fps but it does feel like it gets stuck at times n continues

[latent light]

the game isn't optimized that great

[distant stratus]

I tried thru geforce experience n keeps crashing so i just changed it to medium settings

[latent light]

I've heard of stuttering problems on 9900K 2080Ti systems

[distant stratus]

Mhhh maybe my grpahics card is at the peak running this game?

[latent light]

have you looked at temperatures

[distant stratus]

Right now on my task manager while playing bfv its using 40 percent memory n 15 cpu

[latent light]

wait only 15% on BF5

[distant stratus]

Cpu

While on mutliplayer in squad deth

[latent light]

oh there's not a lot of CPU usage there

[distant stratus]

To 19 percent

[latent light]

CPU usage goes higher when you spawn

[distant stratus]

Lol yup

While spawned it was just at 40 percent cpu

[latent light]

yeah sounds normal for 6 cores and 12 threads

does it ever go higher than 40

[distant stratus]

Not that i can see

I havent crashed in 3 games which i would of deff crashed by now

[latent light]

normally that game would utilize the 2600 to 50-60%

[distant stratus]

The 2060 right?

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 2600

[distant stratus]

Oh yeaa sorry i got confused

[latent light]

RTX 2060 graphics card should go to 90% and up

[distant stratus]

Ok

So far soo good what i did was uninstall the latest windows update

Then i re installed it

I might of had a corrupt file

[latent light]

yeah possibly

[distant stratus]

Well its been working ima sign off here but ill be on in the morning 👊

[forest token]

I saw this - https://www.techpowerup.com/258611/windows-10-1903-has-a-nasty-audio-stutter-bug-microsoft-hasnt-managed-to-fix

[latent light]

[sinful jolt]

#lfg-xbox

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-sideeye-confused-gif-8776030

[prime jasper]

guys i have the recomended specs for this game, even on low Graphics i get 17 fps…. https://www.amazon.com/IPS-level-i5-8300H-GeForce-2666MHz-Gigabit/dp/B07HRZDDJX/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3DQD5BGEQ8KDPCJW3701

this one i have

@dull crest check here

the specs

[dull crest]

Strange

try dowloanding geforce experience

[prime jasper]

hm

ok

[prime jasper]

@dull crest im testing now..

[dull crest]

ok

[prime jasper]

@dull crest it works YEET

Thanks

[dull crest]

🙂

[mild bough]

it says that my pc temperature is at 0 Celsius

Should I be concerned?

[violet plank]

@steep gust you were right,those hynix cjr aren't that bad after all,even they are DR,managed 3800 cl16 on 1.42v,stable on aida64,rest dunno yet

can't wait to get my hands on those samsung A-die tho

[broken forge]

is it normal that I can reach 3.9ghz with the ryzen 3 2200g at 1.312v?

[prime jasper]

maybe you have a golden chip

[broken forge]

I hope so, I'm stressing in with Aida64 and getting a max of 56 with stock cooler

Wonder if I should push it to 4ghz with a little more of voltage

[prime jasper]

more dakka

[supple bane]

i have a 240mm aio and i dont think i could get an oc like that

i havent really tried yet tho tbf

[violet plank]

air cooling master race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4HONEkj4s

not really scientific but fun to watch

[sour ivy]

i wish noctua made an after market gpu cooler

imagine how OP that'd be

[violet plank]

at least all black is coming on all products til 2020,nh-d15 q4 2019

think i've seen somewhere a pic of a gpu with zip tied noctua fans on a it

i modded my nh-d15s like this

https://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2017/11/10062528448l.jpg

costs only the same as the cooler itself lol

but looks great imo

[mild bough]

can anyone help me

so the games i play suddenly freezes

it does not crash or anything, it just completely freezes. My GPU/Cpu is not overheating or anything

[prime jasper]

suddenly? you must have changed something recently

[mild bough]

nope

only thing i have done is updating nvidia

[prime jasper]

have you rebooted since?

[mild bough]

no

[prime jasper]

thats probably why

[mild bough]

oh ok

thanks 😉

can i turn my pc on and of or do i have to reboot

[prime jasper]

restart is all you need

[mild bough]

oh ok

thank you the biggest much

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dADD1I1ihSQ

[grave cloak]

MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GAMING X TRIO or ROG Strix GeForce® RTX 2080 Ti OC ?

[prime jasper]

whichever is cheaper

[sour ivy]

both

[manic lynx]

someone have nvidia highlights for kill and other

[mild bough]

whatever is the most expensive

[manic lynx]

i just death and suicide

[mild bough]

same

i never get kills when i play with friends lol

[manic lynx]

so when you make kill you dont have the highlights @mild bough

?

[queen vine]

might need to get a new graphics card

I'm lagging so bad

With a 1050 ti ;-;'

[latent light]

@queen vine probably CPU

[supple bane]

^

what cpu do you have ?

[latent light]

game should run fine on low settings with a 1050Ti at 60 fps

[queen vine]

ye right

it's the CPU

lel

[latent light]

the game is very CPU demanding

[supple bane]

what cpu is it ?

[queen vine]

you'll laugh when you hear it but

i3-7100

[latent light]

yeah that's the problem

only 2 cores

[sour ivy]

OOF

[storm osprey]

good luck my friend

[latent light]

and you can only upgrade up to a i7-7700 on that motherboard socket

[sour ivy]

OOF

[queen vine]

lmao

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[latent light]

used i7-7700 for ~$200 would be ok

[queen vine]

The thing is that I'm not rly good at building pcs

[latent light]

but if I were you, cheap $70 B450 motherboard and a $100 Ryzen 5 1600

[storm osprey]

.. how are people bad

[queen vine]

I didn't rly build my pc myself

[storm osprey]

its not hard

[queen vine]

ehh..

well

[storm osprey]

im not saying that as an elitest who thinks its easy when its hard

[sour ivy]

wait WHA

[storm osprey]

it really is easy

[sour ivy]

7700 for 200?

i feel like it'd be cheaper

you can find a 8700 for same price

[latent light]

it takes me under an hour to fully assemble a PC and that includes opening all the boxes and reading manuals

[queen vine]

welp

[sour ivy]

around 130

[queen vine]

that's you

[sour ivy]

on ebay

used 7700

[storm osprey]

it will take time to build, but its not hard

[sour ivy]

is fun

is hella lit tbh

[queen vine]

What should I buy instead, a 7700?

[storm osprey]

my first build took 2-3 hours

[sour ivy]

I wish I could build a PC every day

[latent light]

yeah a used 7700

[queen vine]

i7-7700?

[latent light]

new isn't worth it

[supple bane]

the 7700 isnt worth it

[sour ivy]

thats the best cpu u can get without needing a new motherboard

[supple bane]

dont get it

2600 is a much better option

[latent light]

you'd be far better off getting a cheap B450 motherboard and Ryzen 5 1600 than buying a new i7-7700

[storm osprey]

might as well spend 100 bucks more and get a 3600

imo

[sour ivy]

for a 1050 ti?

[latent light]

he didn't specify budget

[queen vine]

else

I can just build a new PC

🤔

[storm osprey]

3600 is such good bang for buck i kinda push people to getting that no matter build

[queen vine]

I mean I bought my PC for 700$ so..

[storm osprey]

unless given a budget

[latent light]

yeah Ryzen 5 3600 is the best CPU to buy for price and it will just get cheaper over time

hopefully it becomes $150 next year

[queen vine]

pffff

[latent light]

then it will be a no-brainer buy

[queen vine]

"intel core i7-7700 3.6ghz 8mb"

price

400$

lmao

[latent light]

yeah because of low stock

you can only find them cheap used

[queen vine]

got a good site?

[latent light]

ebay

[queen vine]

eww

[latent light]

ebay is fine

[sour ivy]

yeah im gonna buy a ryzen 3600x when it drops by 100

or 3600

[queen vine]

if I were to change my i3 to the i7

I would just fuck something up

So I guess ima just stick with my shitty i3 lmao

[sour ivy]

[storm osprey]

cpu swap is fairly easy

like 6 steps

[latent light]

since you already have DDR4 ram, you could buy a Ryzen 5 1600 and B450 motherboard together for ~$200

[queen vine]

I wasted 100$ on a game that I didn't even know if I could run or not lmao

200IQ

[latent light]

$100

BF5 went on sale for $30 a few times hasn't it

[queen vine]

well

I bought the deluxe version earlier

[latent light]

oof

[queen vine]

which was around 100$

I'm sceptical about if this computer was rly with the 700$ I gave for it

[sour ivy]

i got bfv for free

and i still want a refund

[latent light]

when did you get it

[queen vine]

ehh

It's probably 2-4 years old

[latent light]

GTX 1050Ti was $140 when it launched, i3-7100 was $100, 8GB DDR4 was $50-60

[queen vine]

LOL

Building it would've been so much cheaper

[latent light]

yeah would of save nearly $200 probably

[queen vine]

well well

There's actually a company in Sweden that builds computers for you

I should check the price for that

[storm osprey]

ahh different prices for different regions

[latent light]

the best value PC right now is a Ryzen 5 2600 for $140, RX 590 for $195, 2x8GB 3000 MHz DDR4 RAM for $65

[supple bane]

i would say the 580 is a better option for budget

[latent light]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTRY6s @queen vine

RX 590 only $15-20 more than RX 580

and 15% higher performance

[queen vine]

I made one for 1500$ lmao

[latent light]

you wanna pay that much?

[queen vine]

I'm sceptical about even wasting anything on more shit for my PC

smh

since the only game that I can't run at higher than 30+ fps is Battlefield V..

[latent light]

I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 and RX 580

average around 80 fps on ultra settings

110-120 fps on medium

[mild bough]

No i dont have the highlights feature enabled @manic lynx

[sour ivy]

This is why I hate grim

He gets the same FPS as me on a 580

[mild bough]

lol

[forest token]

I might switch to amd just because of the bfv gpu performance

[sour ivy]

It’s funny that amd gpus are our classing nvidia in an nvidia title

[latent light]

Vega 56 beating RTX 2060

Vega 56 beating GTX 1080

[hoary ember]

i hav r5 2600 and rx 590 getting around 120 fps on medium

[latent light]

RX 5700XT even beats RTX 2080 in BF5

[hoary ember]

lul

[supple bane]

[forest token]

just wish the hardware video encoding for h264 was better for amd gpus

[sour ivy]

Imagine

Wya nvidia

Poopoo heads

[molten bramble]

Jesus... Summit1G's new PC is a beast.

https://clips.twitch.tv/TiredPlainTireWoofer

$10K for that thing.

[steep gust]

uses a fucking aio

for 10k you can do 7980XE, Two RTX Titans, 128GB of DDR4, and custom loop

[latent light]

would a streamer want a system like that, thing would heat up your house a lot and you'd need AC running 24/7

[storm osprey]

dont hardcore streamers have a pc just for streaming?

[latent light]

my system pulls under 300w under load and it can make my room 3 degrees warmer than the rest of the house in 2 hours

[prime jasper]

I'm sure somebody like that has absolutely\ no issues paying a bit more on the electric bill

[latent light]

there was one time my room was 80 degrees Fahrenheit but the rest of house was 72

[steep gust]

I mean a 7980XE can easily stream / game anything

[latent light]

9900K will do better

[steep gust]

not for games like bfv

with streaming at the same time

[latent light]

9900K can overclock to 5.2 GHz with relatively mild watercooling

[steep gust]

if you get lucky

[latent light]

7980XE performs 10% worse than 9900K

[steep gust]

most 9900k will do 5ghz

and you can get a 7980XE to 5ghz with enough water cooling

and avoid avx3

but avx3 / 512 on stock settings is already like 400w

[latent light]

7980XE is better for video editing and stuff

but even streaming the 9900K will be better

and will use a lot less power, create less heat and noise

[steep gust]

its pretty much the same process

you disable 10 cores of the 7980XE and its gonna do similar power draws

mesh does draw more, but it shouldn't be massive

[dry narwhal]

For a 1700, should i use 3200 memory with docp and oc the cpu or do it manually in both?

[steep gust]

manually with both is best

but xmp is fine

[dry narwhal]

Would I benefit if i use xmp only or oc both?

[steep gust]

manually OC RAM is time consuming

[latent light]

most of the time, a 1700 won't run memory at 3200

unless you have a good motherboard

[dry narwhal]

I just want frames. I think my 2666 ram kit is slowing my 1070 and such

[steep gust]

no the ryzen dram """""Calculator""""" is not a shortcut

its a preset lookup

[dry narwhal]

Got a b450 f strix asus

And a seasonic focus gold 850w

[latent light]

IMC on first gen Ryzen isn't that great

only guaranteed to reach 2666

2nd gen is guaranteed for 2933

[dry narwhal]

Tried 3200 in my gskill 2666 chips and it failed horrible. I can only fet stable likr 2933

[steep gust]

2666 JEDEC

and you need to memtest

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper

guide + helper to run testing

[latent light]

you aren't likely to get 3200 with a first gen Ryzen CPU only by enabling XMP

[dry narwhal]

I feel slowdowns when i use my xmp profile and stock cpu.

[steep gust]

its possible

[dry narwhal]

Like 1070 is used in games 60 %

But in benchmark is topped out

[steep gust]

some people have managed 3600-3733 on OG zen

[latent light]

yeah my memory is stuck at 1T command rate because defective motherboard and I think it causes instability

[dry narwhal]

So would my board handle 3200 corsair lpx?

[steep gust]

maybe?

there is no clear cut in overclocking

[dry narwhal]

I want to upgrade later to 3rd gen. So i can only do small steps

[latent light]

a lot of people hit a wall at 2933 and can't get past it

[dry narwhal]

2933 is doable and stable for like 1hour aida and prime

[steep gust]

aida is not a stress test

[dry narwhal]

But i eant the plug and play experience

[steep gust]

and prime95 is not a great stress test for mem

[dry narwhal]

So it is better ti burn a usb stick with memtest and give it a go?

[steep gust]

yeah

or use the memtest helper and its software

[latent light]

If you find you can't get 3200mhz at first, try increasing SOC voltages

[dry narwhal]

Used the safe preset for my ram via dram calculator

It held a day 24/7 lul

[steep gust]

dram calculator is not a calculator dude

and don't use it

[dry narwhal]

It found my 2933 stable

"stable"

Didnt test with memtest tho

[steep gust]

yeah so it could easily be corrupting your windows install slowly

which is not fun to find out nor deal with

[latent light]

that can happen?

could explain things for me

[steep gust]

yes

and its painful

I have corrupted many installs

[dry narwhal]

Probably it was my problem. Low fps in every single game.

[latent light]

it can corrupt windows during the install process or after

[dry narwhal]

I had to install the latest bios and use a safe oc

[steep gust]

at any time

[latent light]

wtf

[steep gust]

yeah that's why memory stability is so important

[dry narwhal]

So

[latent light]

every once in a while I get stutter when sitting idle in windows

[steep gust]

see my last corrupted install

[dry narwhal]

My non pegged 1070 could be nerfed via my ram speed and cpu?

[latent light]

stutter on youtube

[steep gust]

was just super slow

took ages to load

etc

[latent light]

stutter in all games

[steep gust]

okay so ignore task manager

no game is gonna use a CPU + GPU to 100%

[dry narwhal]

It should use more gpu rather cpu right?

[latent light]

I wanna do a fresh windows install but don't wanna redownload all my games

[steep gust]

that depends on a lot of variables

[dry narwhal]

I cranked up everything in bf v

[steep gust]

you can always have windows check itself

google the command

[dry narwhal]

Besides filters and motion blur and whatever's

It should be going like >70

[steep gust]

not always

[dry narwhal]

Because in every yt link i see my gpu, it is like 80 till 90

[steep gust]

a 1700 isn't the strongest cpu

[latent light]

stuck on windows 10 version 1803 still

[steep gust]

sfc /scannow

in a admin cmd iirc

[dry narwhal]

1903 in here

[steep gust]

that will validate protected system files

[dry narwhal]

The latest one, i dont recall

My fps arent near those https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070/amd-ryzen-7-1700/

[dry narwhal]

Quite close, like less 10 or 20

[latent light]

inb4 bricks my PC

I hope this doesn't cause any issues

been on 1803 for almost 2 years

I feel like I should do 1806, 1809 then finally 1903

[dry narwhal]

I just want to get stable fps in all games... Just the change of the kit and using only docp it should work as a improvement?

[latent light]

"Windows 10 1803, which was released April 30, 2018, will drop off Microsoft's support list on Nov. 12. In May, Microsoft announced that the forced upgrade would begin in "late June." It was unclear what delayed the 1803-to-1903 migration."

[dry narwhal]

@steep gust sorry for pinging you. What would you do with small budget? Start of the ram to 3200 lpx?

My goal is to get 3700x till this year end or similar then change gpu

[steep gust]

How much for RAM?

Team Dark Pros are $120 and a really solid b-die bin of 3200 14-14-14-31

[dry narwhal]

Europe is like 90 to 100 euros

It cant be a taller ram.. got a bequiet dark rock pro 4

I can get lpx 3200 cl16, flare x cl 16 and thr cl14 i don't recall seeing it

[clear coyote]

cruical 3200mhz are also great. they got micron E

[steep gust]

Rev.E is good for budget kits

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-might-face-import-bans-due-to-a-patent-lawsuit-against-the-company-that-makes-its-chips/?utm_content=buffer82379&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb&fbclid=IwAR25GPVXVoZENeHkaxsvHAZtB6wq0aP2XaJ2NnRr0NBPKa-IPeN91KhwWoI

"Should the courts ultimately rule in favor of GlobalFoundries, there could be import bans imposed on everything from Apple's iPhones and Android handsets from OnePlus, to even Nvidia's GeForce graphics cards."

[steep gust]

I doubt it happens

[latent light]

it's going to be one of those lawsuits that gets pushed back for a decade

[steep gust]

inb4

"TSMC announces purchase of GloFo"

[latent light]

TSMC isn't even doing 7nm for Nvidia

so this wouldn't affect them next year

[lofty light]

@latent light >source=facebook

[steep gust]

I can file a patent infringement lawsuit tomorrow

[latent light]

Statistics for delidded i7-8700K from Silicon Lottery

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/globalfoundries-files-patent-lawsuits-tsmc,40240.html @lofty light

[lofty light]

Thanks, but I was just stirring

[prime jasper]

I need help with something, real quick, I have 53 GB of free space on the desk that I have BF V installed on, Everytime I try to install the update, it says "You don't have enough space on the designated disk"

[molten bramble]

LOL, that's a fight they'll lose.

@sour ivy This channel is for helping folks and/or discussing tech-related topics. If you have nothing of value to add, in this case assisting a user with their inquiry, then please steer clear of the channel with unnecessary commentary. Thanks.

[elder violet]

my game is crashing a lot recently ,help

[supple bane]

A.)this could be one of a million reasons, b.)this isn’t a tech support chat. We do help people if it’s simple stuff but your better off doing

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[lofty light]

@prime jasper have you defragmented the disk recently?

[prime jasper]

I honestly don't know.

But as far as I know, I haven't.

[molten bramble]

@storm osprey Yes, he has a second system for streaming. This is strictly for gaming.

[dry narwhal]

Going to get the lpx kit and put xmp and call it a day.

[supple bane]

corsair link 4 is saying my cpu is at 80-90 degrees at idle. but both ryzen master and msi after burner "osd when in game" say that the temps are perfectly fine, i dont know which one to believe

it worrys me as i have done some really dodgy thing with thermal paste. i dont have any left so i have ordered some on amazon but it isnt coming for a while so i just scraped the old stuff off the old cpu with some cardboard,

and it didnt work like at all

in terms of actually getting a decent application on the ihs on my 2600

[lofty light]

Oof, I think it may be bad

Maybe try turning it off and touching the CPU? If it's only 30C it won't burn your fingers off

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-sloth-no-gif-7251428

[dry narwhal]

pls come payday, i want to get my lpx 3200 ram 😄

[serene sluice]

is there a problem with nvidia on battlefield v? cuz i get bad preformence yet i still have a decent pc

[supple bane]

what is said pc ?

specs wise

[serene sluice]

my friend has the same problem

and he has a god pc

with nvidia

gtx 1060

or some shit

[supple bane]

thats the god pc ?

[serene sluice]

no

my friend has a god pc

butt i have a decent one that should be able to run bf5

[supple bane]

could you just say the specs?

and the settings you are using

so i can help see if there is something wrong with your performance

[serene sluice]

i have lowerd almost every thing

im tryna finde my specs

gpu gtx 1060 3G 3G

[supple bane]

yes. and cpu ?

[serene sluice]

i5.7400 3.00 GHz

or some shit

[supple bane]

ok

[serene sluice]

i dont know mutch about graphics

[supple bane]

and what fps do you getting and what settings are you using ?

[serene sluice]

¨leme go in bf5 and check

never minde

i have almost every thing on low

or medium

[supple bane]

and what fps ?

[serene sluice]

around 30 -40

witch is rlly bad and bearly playeble

[supple bane]

sounds about right for those specs tbf

its a 4 core cpu

bfv doesnt play well with low core cpu's

you need at least 6 to get decent fps

[serene sluice]

oh ok

well does btf 1 play well

[supple bane]

its better but still not amazing

[serene sluice]

ok

thx so mutch any ways

[supple bane]

like i said, bf titles are really cpu intensive, and that cpu doesnt really cut it for high fps

what ram do you have ?

because it might be that that is causing it

[serene sluice]

em how do i see ram ?

[supple bane]

open task manager

click more details in the bottom left

[serene sluice]

em i have my pc on swedish so it kinda sux

i dont what its called in swedish

[supple bane]

wait, ill do some circling because the layoutt will be the same

one sec

[serene sluice]

well thx for the help any ways but i gtg

[mild bough]

@serene sluice , i live in norway. Maybe it is somewhat close in swedish, it is called «oppgave behandling»

[prime jasper]

@mild bough hejsan

[violet plank]

new version available

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

[sour ivy]

[mild bough]

heisann sveisann

[supple bane]

!!r1

[silent oasis]

ℹ RULE #1:
Post in the right place. Check the channel, pinned rules & description before sending a message. Keep all messages in English & don't bypass the word filter. It's there for a reason.

[supple bane]

bit petty but still

[sour ivy]

@supple bane

[supple bane]

what?

[mild bough]

Dude, it is just a way to say hi

[supple bane]

thats not the point

[mild bough]

dont be snitch

[prime jasper]

I dont think you realize what a snitch is lol

[supple bane]

the point is there is a word filter for a reason, and speaking in a different language is a way to bypass it

[sour ivy]

^^

[mild bough]

well go ahead and translate and you will see what it means

[sour ivy]

it means poo poo

[supple bane]

with what?

its not like i have an english to Norwegian dictionary lying around

[mild bough]

google translate

[supple bane]

that doesnt work

[mild bough]

it sure does

[supple bane]

have you ever tried to use it ?

[mild bough]

yep

its not the best lol

[prime jasper]

yeah it worked

it literally just says 'Hello'

[mild bough]

yup

[prime jasper]

but for some reason that takes two words

[mild bough]

always trust google translate

[supple bane]

yes but then do that backwards

convert hello into norwiegion

[mild bough]

google translate is good, google translate is life

there are multiple ways to say hello/hi/hey in norwegian

[prime jasper]

Hallo is what is says is english to norweigan

thats German also so...

[mild bough]

yeah the germanian language

norwegian, german, swedish and more i dont know

[supple bane]

anyway. i believe that it was innocent, but the point is speaking in a different language to someone that can also speak said language is a way to bypass the word filter

[mild bough]

yeah i get it