technology

[latent light]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-graphics-card-nvidia-killer/

[forest token]

A card? not multiple cards?

[steep gust]

Reportedly, some staffers have started calling the new cards "Nvidia Killers

must have been a slow day

"staffers"

[forest token]

amd staffers

of course they would want to hype it up

I'm confused preview says cards, article says card

[latent light]

Probably a huge die card with 64 compute units and 300+w tdp

[lofty light]

Maybe it's a multi die card

They're just using chiplets for GPUs now too

[steep gust]

nah no real way to do that

GPUs have insane bandwidth throughput

[lofty light]

Haven't they made duo GPUs in the past that are basically crossfire in one card?

[steep gust]

yes

That's two separate GPUs on one PCB

using a PLX chip

[latent light]

connect two GPU dies using infinity fabric

which is already done with the Vega II Pro

[lofty light]

Exactly

Just make a monstrous 8-way crossfire thing that needs PCI4.0

We're only just reaching the limits of PCI3.0 with SLI TITAN RTXs anyway

[solemn cave]

Is it possible to connect psn to discord?

Just asking🤔

[sour ivy]

No

[solemn cave]

Kk thanks

[latent light]

psn living in 1919

[sour ivy]

ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme III - High-End Graphics Card Cooler - nVidia & AMD, 3 Quiet 92mm PWM Fans, SLI/Crossfire. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007YLUCKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DbWuDbD5ZB7EB

W or L

[hoary ember]

HardwareLuxx tested the Accelero Xtreme III in which it reduced the GPU temperature on a Gigabyte GTX 670 by 27 degrees more than the stock cooler did

[prime jasper]

gtx670

[hoary ember]

yup that was the point

[prime jasper]

lol

[sour ivy]

Yeah but it still works lol

[supple bane]

that thing is fucking ugly lol

[steep gust]

@lofty light 8-way SLI / crossfire will never happen thanks to garbage scaling / frame time

[prime jasper]

My PS4 gets overheat warning screens and shuts off at 2pm everyday. Everyday at 2pm on the dot

Does anybody have any idea why. I know it’s not battlefield related but this shits annoying

[storm osprey]

because its really hot at 2pm

[latent light]

[sour ivy]

Hot girl summer

[supple bane]

it’s because you have a PS4

did you know that the PS4 pro only gets 24 FPS in 900p on anthem

this source is a little old so don’t quote me on it

But damnnnnn

and people say consoles are good

[storm osprey]

anthem a poo game though

[prime jasper]

I have what I have bro just lookin for some help on the issue I’m dealing with

I don’t even have the pro it’s the og ps4

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper look up how to take it apart and dust it out

[lofty light]

Anthem has fun gameplay

It's like wearing an iron man suit and destroying all your enemies

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLBTEqynhg

very nice how easy it is to take apart Sapphire cards

[jagged citrus]

Hei guys, today I am gonna go and buy everything for a budget (900$) pc

Is ryzen 5 3600 too much for a rx580 8gb?

The rx580 is prob the best gpu for my price range

[supple bane]

ye it is

the 3600 will be bottlenecked

[jagged citrus]

Should I go with the 2600?

[supple bane]

i would say that the 2600x would be better, or even the 2600

and spend the money you save on a better gpu

[jagged citrus]

Hm, something like? I am not too good with the pcs, everyone on yt is using the 580 8gb

[supple bane]

dont get the 8gb version either

its too much vram for that gpu

you will never use it

what motherboard and ram are you going to use, ill make a ppp list for you

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsc4XP

there

that might be a bit better

[jagged citrus]

I wanted to go with the asrock b450 M pro4

And the ram would be a stick of 8gb at 3200

[supple bane]

ye thats again a bad choice really

a.)8gb isnt enough these days b.) single channel ram will bottleneck the crap out of your pc

check the link i sent above, imo those are the best choices for your price range

[jagged citrus]

Okay, I am gonna take a look to see some fps and tests, do you also know a good cheap case? I know what ssd and hhd I am gonna buy

[supple bane]

that depends on your setup really

depends if you are gonna water cool and stuff

i would say the h500 is a decent case for the price

[jagged citrus]

Nah I will use a custom cooler

I really apreciate your help, buddy

I will send some pics in your dm later xd

I am so hyped to move from ps4 pro to the pc

[sour ivy]

Shouldn’t he get a 3600 to be more future proof?

Or a 2700x

[supple bane]

why would you buy a 3600 with a 580?

it would be bottlenecked

[sour ivy]

But in the future if he wants to upgrade his gpu the 2700x or 3600 would be better fit

[prime jasper]

3600

better single threaded performance

[shut comet]

how to plug in 6 case fans my mobo has only 4 fan ports

[prime jasper]

fan hub

[shut comet]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DEEPCOOL-Controller-Splitter-Occupying-Motherboard/dp/B07DDC27BD/ref=asc_df_B07DDC27BD/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310818960639&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18070568038999971751&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045936&hvtargid=pla-633614537424&psc=1

Like this?

[prime jasper]

yeah thats one

[shut comet]

alright thanks

[supple bane]

so ermm

i spilled water onto my keyboard

i can already tell that the windows key is broken

[shut comet]

rip

[prime jasper]

lol

now you can get a waterproof keyboard

[supple bane]

meh i eint getting a new keyboard

i can live without a windows key

[sour ivy]

Rip

Will a clean install of windows help me smooth out performance? I’ve gotten a new cpu since the last time I did it

And mobo

[prime jasper]

it may, but that may not be your issue

are you on the latest build which is 1903?

[sour ivy]

Yeah updated last night

[prime jasper]

updated chipset drivers and bios too?

[sour ivy]

Bios and chipset drivers updated in the last 2 weeks

[prime jasper]

whats the issue?

[sour ivy]

Tbh I’ve always felt I’ve gotten worse perf than I should have

Like why am I getting 90 FPS in Bfv on a gtx 1080 lol

On low-medium

[shut comet]

thermals?

[prime jasper]

if you have bad thermals a reinstall wont help that

[sour ivy]

Idk and the only part of the pc that hasn’t been replaced ever is the psu

My thermals are fine

Gpu a lil toasty

But it’s a blower

[shut comet]

a reinstall will help if you have lots of bg programs

i reinstall every ~2-3 months

[sour ivy]

Alright

Max cpu temps are 65 C

[prime jasper]

what cpu? are you on dx11 or 12?

[sour ivy]

Max gpu temp I’ve seen was 78 C

2600x

I tried dx 12 on my 1060

[prime jasper]

well try dx12 now

[sour ivy]

But it got like 30 FPS

Okay the 1080 will work better on it?

[prime jasper]

make sure that DXR is off

[sour ivy]

Yeah it is

[prime jasper]

and vsync off too

you can try turning on FFR as well

[sour ivy]

I always have it on

Ffr that is

Maybe dx 12 will fix it

I hope so

[prime jasper]

dx12 works better with ryzen

[sour ivy]

I’m gonna improve thermals by buying another IO bracket thing like on the back of the gpu

And I’ll make a bigger hole in it

Saw a guy on YouTube doing it

[prime jasper]

well try that first before you fuck with your gpu lol

[sour ivy]

Cuz the openings for heat aren’t big enough lol

I will

But I’ll also do that because there’s no risk

If I use an aftermarket one

And have the original to put back on when in the future I wanna sell it

[sour ivy]

Cuz like the way they design blowers is so stupid

[jagged citrus]

@supple bane check your dms i got the pc

[storm osprey]

wow way to not share with us

[jagged citrus]

I cant share images here :(

I cant send it to you aswell

If you would like

[storm osprey]

send to me and ill post for you

[jagged citrus]

Done

[storm osprey]

@jagged citrus new pc!

[sour ivy]

Yeah u a meanie

What cpu is dat

[jagged citrus]

2600

[mild bough]

help, i had to turn up my fan speed because the pc got hot. and now the temperature turned up after i put the fan speed to 100%

it was at 61Celsius, now it is 75 celsius

[sour ivy]

That wouldn’t make sense

And nice @jagged citrus

Is it possible that the load got higher

[jagged citrus]

Thank you!

Hm, how?

Well, I needed 3 more fans, but they didnt had them in stock

[storm osprey]

i think the load got higher remark was for mikail

[jagged citrus]

Oh

My bad

[sour ivy]

Yeah for Mikail

[violet plank]

finally finished that ryzen build,3700x 4241mhz all core out of the box

[supple bane]

for anyone that is wondering. i fixed my keyboard

[violet plank]

god help us all

[jagged citrus]

How did you do that lol

[supple bane]

i spilled water on it earlier

so i took it apart and dried it out with a hair dryer

[jagged citrus]

Damn ez pz

[violet plank]

btw @steep gust those kingston 3600 ram stick are running out of thx box on highest profile,and 1T

[jagged citrus]

I took 16 gb at 3200 but I heard someone saying that they will run at 3000 max o.o

[latent light]

sometimes you get the wrong ram

my friend ordered 2400 and got 3000

[violet plank]

lol nice

[jagged citrus]

Should I replace the thermal paste from the be quite pure rock cooler with arctic silver 5?

[supple bane]

ye

[jagged citrus]

Thanks

[storm osprey]

if you have it and havent installed yes

no reason not to

[supple bane]

it most likely wont give you all too much performance gain, but it doesnt hurt not to

[sour ivy]

I’m so lazy but I really should replace my thermal paste on gpu

Idk how old the card is but I’d assume it would lower temps a few degrees

[supple bane]

im going to do it to mine when i have my pc in bits when i get my new motherboard

[astral sentinel]

Last change i did to my PC was upgrade my ram from 12gb to 16gb

[storm osprey]

heretic

[sour ivy]

StarTech.com Expansion Slot Rear Exhaust Cooling Fan with LP4 Connector (FANCASE) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000510SS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VLbvDbFT9H3SX

Yes this is an ancient product

But if it was about my gpu it would theoretically absorb some of the hot air surrounding it right

[nocturne hawk]

Does anyone know how to fly a plane

[prime jasper]

@sour ivy no

at that point you might as well just leave the side of the case off

[sour ivy]

I have cats

[nocturne hawk]

Nice

[prime jasper]

shouldnt have gotten a blower lol

[sour ivy]

Was a good deal

I ain’t shook

A toasty 1080> my 1060 any day

[prime jasper]

yes indeed

[sour ivy]

Thermal paste and a new case with better airflow will bring it down a good 5 C so then it’ll be fine

[latent light]

the Sapphire pulse RX 5700 XT is pretty amazing, cooler shroud is only 2 slots yet the GPU stays under 70C with a relatively low fan curve

plus the card only costs $410 usd

I bet if sapphire was also an nvidia partner, sapphire would be top 3 easily

[sour ivy]

I think ur in love with the 5700 xt @latent light

[prime jasper]

bang for teh buck is hard to argue

[sour ivy]

Is gooddd

I’m gonna get a small case I think

[prime jasper]

I want to ask can the game work with
Nvidia GTX 960

thats gonna be a no

1050 is good

no, it isnt

With what it works

wait are you trying to upgrade your system or build a new one?

A new one

what are you looking at?

Just playing battlefield 5 and foraza 4

are you buying a pre built or building it yourself?

A laptop

oh, thats never going to be as good as a desktop for gaming

and more expensive too

Ok thanks

[latent light]

GTX 960 can play at around 60 fps on lowest settings @prime jasper

if it's a laptop then it probably won't even boot the game

[supple bane]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-ROG-GeForce-STRIX-GTX1080-8-GB-A8G-Gaming-Graphics-Card-model/323882436945?epid=512987749&hash=item4b68e5c951:g:dS4AAOSwDStdUVVR

oh and this one \

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1080-Windforce-OC-8GB-VR-Ready/254327454139?epid=17031187995&hash=item3b3718f9bb:g:DWMAAOSwBh9dUAnT

these cards are getting so cheap

its tempting me

[sour ivy]

Do it no balls

[supple bane]

im kinda having a case of its too good to be true atm tho

[sour ivy]

I got my 1080 for 250

It’s a 1080

Lol

[supple bane]

also i have too much self control, my monitor would bottleneck it and tbh is already the main bottleneck in my setup. so there isnt much point getting a new gpu until i get a new monitor, which wont be for a while

[steep gust]

@violet plank 1T should be possible on most XMP profiles

Considering that its generally to carry a bad imc

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mDaYEwXEpI

maybe the worst $30 cooler?

[supple bane]

I can see the problem here, the hunk of metal says intel

that’s the problem, ez

[hoary ember]

is it safe to buy like these 1080's from ebay

[supple bane]

The rule of thumb I go by is if it has multiple pictures of the card in real life with the same background then it’s most likely ok

like I mean if it has a table or a bed as the background or something

if it has just a white screen as the back ground I steer away

[hoary ember]

k bro

tech said if u want to upgrade to 3rd gen ryzen

update bios with ur cpu

then plug it in

why do i have to update my bios

[steep gust]

@hoary ember it's fine

Pascal is damn near impossible to kill

And if it is dead

PayPal loves to fuck over sellers

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/cqezl9/asus_tuf_x570_caught_on_fire_no_customer_service/

[hoary ember]

my bios is 1.00 asrock b 450m

[latent light]

ASUS is one of the worst brands tbh

Charging $500 for the Strix 5700 XT

[forest token]

[jagged citrus]

So.. after a long sesion of intense wire management and everything, i build the pc, my first build ever, but there is one little problem lol

[hoary ember]

where s my cpu

[jagged citrus]

The pc will not turn on, sometimes the fans will start spinning and the rgb from de motherboard will go red, for 1 sec, then it dies

Hehe

The psu isnt a problem I think, because the led from the gpu is always on

The cpu power is connect, the motherboard is xonnected too

[forest token]

😐 checking youtube for some gpu/cpu benchmark pairings for bfv and three of the four I watched didn't have future frame rendering on (increases fps a ton)

[prime jasper]

yeah thats usually left off

[shut comet]

Is a ryzen 2600 reaching 90°C in BF5 normal

Running stock

[prime jasper]

no, thats too hot

check your thermal paste

make sure you have good airflow

[shut comet]

I assume it's the 2nd as my front fan died

[prime jasper]

yeah that wont help

[shut comet]

Also stock cooler doesn't help either

[prime jasper]

still shouldnt hit 90 stock cooler and stock settings

[shut comet]

Bought an aftermarket cooler

Which should help

[sour ivy]

The stock Ryzen cooler is really good

Mine never goes over 70

[lofty light]

Sounds like no paste to me 😛

[cursive marten]

yeah i'm told the stock ryzen coolers are quite nice, like, aftermarket coolers are only necessary if you're planning on overclocking

[latent light]

someone selling i5-8600K, 2x8GB 3200 ram, B360 aorus gaming 3 for $450

put together the same parts on pcpartpicker for $400

[steep gust]

Sounds about right

[lofty light]

Oof

Sounds like a Facebook marketplace deal right there

[latent light]

it was on fb

maybe $450 is the start negotiation price

could talk it down to $350 I bet

but sometimes you ask "how about I give y-" "PRICE IS NOT NEGOTIABLE"

[lofty light]

Sounds like gumtree

Biggest ripoff market

[supple bane]

You leave gumtree alone

it has some good deals

[lofty light]

Tbh it is real good for furniture

But tech? Normally people are very good at being dumb

[violet plank]

ffs,still no option in bios for the pch fan...,at least it's inaudible

hmm,i even could unplug it

nice,powercolor has the best 5700 xt so far,in like every category

really nice card,too bad it would be still a downgrade :/

[mild bough]

Uhh, I updated my PC. And now my custom screen settings have reset and it looks weird. Any tips?

[supple bane]

put the settings back how they were ?

[mild bough]

I dont remember

[supple bane]

i honestly dont know what you mean

like what do you mean by custom screen settings ?

[mild bough]

Brightness, contrast, gamma digital vibrance and so on

[supple bane]

do you mean on a game or just in windows ?

[mild bough]

In windows

[supple bane]

why did you even mess with those settings in the first place ?

[mild bough]

I messed with the brightness because I like it a little brighter than standard, and then I added more colors with the digital vibrance so everything isnt so gray and sad.

[supple bane]

well i honestly dont know what to suggest other than just start again and get it as close as you can

[mild bough]

Yeah, I am trying it now. I think I am getting somewhat close. Thanks 🙂

[jagged citrus]

okay, so.. the build is done, working, all good

only one thing, my rams are running at 1067 instead of 3200

also, should I download the updates for the bios?

[prime jasper]

@jagged citrus yes update the bios

then pull the XMP of the RAM so it runs at rated speed, that has to be done in the bios

[supple bane]

ye you need to enable xmp

[jagged citrus]

I should get the latest version of bios and that all right?

[supple bane]

that is actually running at 2133 which is the stock speed all ram comes at out of the box

because you have 2 sticks, 1067x 2 = 2133

[jagged citrus]

thank you

I cant install anything when I am downloading the bios update, is that all, just download it? lol

one more thing, I can see only the ssd in "this pc"

found it on google nvm

[supple bane]

ye you need to make a partition

i assume thats what you found at least

[jagged citrus]

yes

So, do I have to install the bios update or something?

[supple bane]

have you enabled the xmp in your bios ? ]

[jagged citrus]

not yet

[supple bane]

the bored is so new, i wouldnt think i would need an update

go into your bios and enable your xmp

it is usually easy to find

[jagged citrus]

Okay, I will restart my pc

brb

[jagged citrus]

I dont know why the hell, but unigin heaven will not run for me,I get a stupid error, what app should I use? I wanna benchmark my gpu while overclocking it

[supple bane]

valley benchmark works

[jagged citrus]

Would it be possible to have a slow download speed because of the pc or smth? I regulary download with 5mb/s, but this guy is downloading with 450mhz rn lol

[mild bough]

What are your new specs @jagged citrus ????

[jagged citrus]

16gb at 3200, gtx 1660ti, ryzen 5 2600, kingstone 240gb ssd, seagatebarracuda 1tb hdd, msi b450 tomahawk and corsair vs550

Aprently is my ethernet cable

Fuck

[pulsar acorn]

Game still wont launch

Immediate Black Screen and Dies

[supple bane]

also @jagged citrus I need to ask you something What’s that motherboard like ?

because i need a new b450 and im open for suggestions

[violet plank]

grrr,ram crash with aida,time for voltage tweaking

bleh,does amd not publish the max temp limits of ryzen 3000 ?

nvm,got it,95 degree C

[supple bane]

my keyboard doesnt have just "off" for the lights

[prime jasper]

spill more water on it until they go off

[supple bane]

[storm osprey]

cut the wires to the lighting

[supple bane]

ye thats a no, its traces not just wires

and anyway, i dont want them off permanently, i just want some peace and quite from my keyboard

trust me, this thing can go pretty rgb

before you bite my head off, i dont have it like that, i have it on a solid blue

[storm osprey]

what keeb is that

[prime jasper]

well I'm coming over there to kick your ass anyway

buckle up

[supple bane]

motospeed k87s

killa i bet your kb can do something similar to that

[storm osprey]

lol the picture for this keeb

[prime jasper]

I can turn mine off @supple bane

[supple bane]

[prime jasper]

yup, here comes the pain train

[supple bane]

see. not that bad

[storm osprey]

blue looks nice

[violet plank]

never seen a keyboard where you can't turn them off somehow

[storm osprey]

my keeb only has underglow

[violet plank]

either hardware switch or software

[supple bane]

you can turn the rim at the bottom off

just not the per key lighting

[violet plank]

mine has both,a button and software

per key you would need software anyways ?

[supple bane]

woops

[violet plank]

[supple bane]

this keyboard doesnt have software

[violet plank]

so maybe it is just not possible what you wanna do ?

[supple bane]

pretty much

which is what i said

you cant turn the fucking lights off

[prime jasper]

that excuse wont save you from my wrath

[violet plank]

cut the power cables,scratch the soldering

[supple bane]

oof killa dosent like my gay pride keyboard

[violet plank]

[prime jasper]

blue is gay pride now? lol

[supple bane]

hahah. i just realised that the pic nyphon sent has an arsenal pizza box in it

[prime jasper]

yes and that sweet gaming laptop...

[supple bane]

if you american bois dont know, arsenal is a football team over here

or sorry

soccer team

pffht, Americanisms

[prime jasper]

watching divegrass in the current year

lmao @ you

[supple bane]

theres something making a funny noise in my pc and i cant figure out what it is

its either a harddrive, my pump, or a fan

[storm osprey]

fans you can just hold them still for a little to tell

[supple bane]

i think its the harddrive as it is only happening every minute or so

not constantly

[storm osprey]

what kind of drive is it?

[supple bane]

a hard one

[storm osprey]

ahh, soft drives normally dont have that problem

[supple bane]

i lowered my fan speeds right down and it stopeed

now just time to find out which of my 6 fans it is

[storm osprey]

just put a pencil in the blades and see which one stops the noise

[supple bane]

wouldnt that damage the blade ?

[storm osprey]

i stop the fans by putting my finger in the center of the fan (so you dont knock it off balance) and then i put something to wedge the fans into not turning, i cant imagine it damages anything other that putting strain on the motor

or whatever spins the fan

[jagged citrus]

So.. i got the gpu at 2025mhz and 7000 the other one, I forgot the name of it lol

But the temperature with the fans on auto is 76°C, with the fans on 100% is too loud, but the temperature is 71

So, is 76 okay? I stress tested the gpu while doing it with valley benchmark btw

[obtuse kettle]

what's your room temperature? 76 sounds a bit on the high note. more than 80/85 is damaging for your pc. i usually try to keep my temps below 70 max. though it can get that high if your room temps are normally around 30 - 40.

[prime jasper]

if your room temp is normally around 40 you've got more serious problems on your hands

[latent light]

yeah that would kill you eventually I imagine

[supple bane]

@obtuse kettle @jagged citrus you temps are fine. you wont damage a gpu period most of the time because it will thermal throttle.

mine hits 89 at some points in the summer

and its fine

so actually, for an oc'ed gpu, that is pretty good

[jagged citrus]

Thank you

my internet went back to normal

bought origin acces, I cant wait to play bf

this time around sniping with a mouse, not pushing a stick

its gonna be awesome

[supple bane]

have you ever played on a mouse before then ?

[jagged citrus]

just league and cs go lol

[supple bane]

oh ok

[jagged citrus]

Ill have to learn how to aim again but its just fine xd

[supple bane]

i was gonna say, it has a learning curve. but its easy to master

[jagged citrus]

ill be just fine, maybe we rocking some bf in 7-8h? I have to go now

[supple bane]

wont that be in the middle of the night if you live in the eu ?

[reef pasture]

How do I see the temp of my CPU?

[molten coral]

With a heat thermometer or just download speccy

[reef pasture]

Oh ok, but is there a way on Windows itself?

[prime jasper]

not built into windows, no

your mobo would have its own software

[shut comet]

What gpu is recommended to go alongside an r5 2600

[prime jasper]

dependents on your monitors resolution/refresh rate

and budget of course

[supple bane]

the one that will receive the least bottleneck will be a 2060 or Vega 56

But I also agree with killa

[storm osprey]

always build according to your monitor

constantly see people getting a 1080p monitor at 60hz or 144hz and they are thinking of getting a 2080

[shut comet]

1080p-1440p

[storm osprey]

the cost of a 2080 you can buy a whole computer that would make better use of that monitor as long as you are willing to turn down settings for 144hz

[shut comet]

My mate is running a 2080 on a 720p monitor

[storm osprey]

my god

why?!

[shut comet]

I bet if I swap out my rx580 with his 2080 he won't notice

No idea

[storm osprey]

get a 2070, the price difference you can at least get a 1080p 60hz monitor

AND THATS STILL OVERKILL

im using a 1080 for 1440p

hes beating my gpu FOR 720P?!

[shut comet]

Lol

[storm osprey]

imo buy a nice 1440p monitor, and spend the rest that you can on a gpu

as long as it nets you something decent for 1440p

it will be a while before you upgrade a good 1440p monitor

[quasi sparrow]

high refresh rate 1440p can be found for <$300 nowadays anyways

not much more than a $200 1080p 144Hz

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZIYoJRkyjI

sapphire pulse and the red devil look to be the best 5700 XT options

[prime jasper]

Dell has a nice 1440p/144 monitor for about 300

[sour ivy]

There’s driver issues with it

[prime jasper]

?

[sour ivy]

That 5700xt

[latent light]

why does everyone call 1440p 2K

8K is 7690x4320 pixels
4K is 3840x2160 pixels
2K is 1920x1080 pixels

[cursive marten]

i assume they call 1440p 2k because they think of 1080p as 1k, like, the standard.

I donno. I can't say i know a lot about that in the first place.

[steep gust]

because they are dumb and want something short and marketable

[lofty light]

Because it's stuck, so even if it's technically wrong it's just what we use now

[strong breach]

look at my 2.3K monitor

it's 2560x1440p

[ebon yarrow]

That's 2.5k though

[mild bough]

If i have a 8k monitor, will i be able to spot people like 20km away?

[lofty light]

Yes

[supple bane]

in theory

but no gpu atm can play games at 8k

[lofty light]

Sure they can, depending on the game 😛

And fps you're willing to put up with

[mild bough]

roblox

lol

but i saw a guy play gta with a graphics mod and in 8k with 60 fps, is it fake?

[supple bane]

ye

the 2080ti can only just about manage 4k 60

[mild bough]

ohh

is it possible to configure your pc to have 2 GPU’s

[supple bane]

it is

[mild bough]

like you have 8x2 in ram

[supple bane]

but it doesnt work very well with gpu's

[mild bough]

oh

[supple bane]

you dont get double performance, put it that way

[mild bough]

how come not?

[mild bough]

Anyone can recommend a good 2560x1440 and 144hz monitor? For like under 450$

[violet plank]

lmao https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1094490-is-nothing-sacred-buttplug-hacked/

[ebon yarrow]

... kinky

[desert bear]

Is it normal that in a game the game disconnects me?...

[sour ivy]

No

[violet plank]

nice,bfv now uses over 14 gig ram for me on lowest settings lol

[kindred knot]

You ever been choked by a police officer because you made a ruse?

It's an officer problem dudezzz

[steep gust]

[molten bramble]

@kindred knot what does that have to do with #technology?

[kindred knot]

@molten bramble what tech?

[reef pasture]

This is the tech channel that has to do with technological information.

Discussion regarding those topics

[molten bramble]

^ 👍

[kindred knot]

This is the police.

Can I have your location of emergency.

Or should I turn it in to our techs?

@reef pasture you want to talk to the police? I have them here at my house asking for your group.

???

[latent light]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/370199/report-ps5-gpu-outperforms-a-geforce-rtx-2070-super?fbclid=IwAR3NsVC8uz833WP4TwOQDCWq9YONTu1eQ63QI5bLy91W3io4GY51fk2D4-A

[brisk flare]

isn't their gpu both the cpu and gpu integrated as one piece?

a gtx 1060 with an i7 and 16gb ram is on par with an xbox one x while having almost 2 less teraflops

[latent light]

next gen consoles will have seperate chips

[brisk flare]

the ps5 will use an apu, aka both as one

[latent light]

yeah nvm it is an apu

I bet next gen consoles will be $600

[brisk flare]

im pretty sure it will bench in gameplay around a 2060 performance mark. if you get the closest graphics settings to compare a same pc game to the ps5 version, an rtx 2060 based pc should run about the same or higher

teraflops is just like a baseline, many other factors determine overall performance

[kindred knot]

I'm not kidding they're here..

@reef pasture they're asking for you.

[reef pasture]

What?

[kindred knot]

You said you're tech don't be ignorant.

[reef pasture]

I’m not tech?

[cursive marten]

Yes hello I am tech

Beep boop.

[kindred knot]

Haters still hate.

And trolling still troll.

[cursive marten]

hello I am tech

Boop beep.

[kindred knot]

Who?

Why is battlefield V broken?

[cursive marten]

I don’t know. Why are you asking me.

Beep boop.

[kindred knot]

Smh

@cursive marten stupid answer there.

[cursive marten]

@kindred knot well I’m sorry to say that I’m not in the business of answering vague questions about games I don’t actively play, my guy.

Maybe you should try asking the people in #battlefield-legacy-titles, they’re more likely to have what you’re looking for.

[kindred knot]

I heard you can fix my battlefield?

[supple bane]

the fuq was this whole convo even about

[steep gust]

@latent light are they really using teraflops to compare GPUs for gaming

[lofty light]

Sounds like sound logic there

That's why you see people using those Vega duo workstation cards for gaming at insane levels

[pallid silo]

Anyone got a tutorial how to format my SSD when installing windows

[steep gust]

when installing windows

click the format button

[coarse nimbus]

scrolling through the channel...none of the 2 mods that had to have seen the same thing as me are saying anything?

[steep gust]

good report

[violet plank]

wtf,i get better performance with 3200mhz ram than 3600 on same latency,and 3200 uses 14 gig ram,3600 10 gig

[jagged citrus]

logitech prodigy 203 is actually an okay mouse lol

for only 27 euros

[mortal nacelle]

https://twitter.com/OC3D/status/1162694814502203392

110C is ok

[latent light]

110C junction temp

[sour ivy]

did they really say that

[steep gust]

no

not exactly

[latent light]

I haven't heard of any Radeon VII dying because of 110+ junction temp

🤷

[steep gust]

they also don't run at 110C

The issue is GDDR6 runs hot and the cards have shit memory cooling

I would expect memory to start dying before the core

[latent light]

I thought GDDR5 had higher power consumption than GDDR6

[steep gust]

density

and yeah it does

but the 5700XT has really shit memory cooling, iirc its running at like 95C

[latent light]

did you see XFX fucked up memory cooling again just like they did on polaris

[sour ivy]

does that mean their lifespan will be a lot lower than like the rtx

[steep gust]

we don't know

[latent light]

Sapphire Pulse 5700XT should be the one everyone buys

only $10 more than reference blower

memory gets hot on the ASUS Strix and the XFX THICC

well not terribly hot on the Strix but still for $500, it doesn't do great for value

[mortal nacelle]

just dont buy amd gpus

problem solve

[hoary ember]

what the hack is rx600's

[latent light]

AMD has the best options when it comes to low and midrange

[steep gust]

^

[latent light]

Vega 56 only $280, better option than 1660Ti
RX 5700XT $400, better option than 2060 Super

RX 570 only $130, way better than 1050Ti and 1650

[sour ivy]

the xt stock?

[latent light]

even reference 5700XT is better than any 2060 Super

also, all custom partner 5700XT aren't out yet

still more on the way

the best buy right now is the Sapphire Pulse

as it's only $10-20 more than reference but way cooler and quiet

[sour ivy]

but they dont throttle a lot?

[latent light]

the sapphire pulse is really quiet and stays ~70C

[sour ivy]

the ref

[latent light]

reference goes to 90C

and is loud

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXaNEqsJT2c

[hoary ember]

lol

[supple bane]

if your willing to just play bfv this is a great card

like seriously, 80 pound for 70-80 fps on 1080p high

not too shabby

[sour ivy]

I only get 80 FPS on 1080p with a 1080

So I can imagine this is fun

[latent light]

only 80 fps with a 1080 wtf

my RX 580 averages around 80 fps on ultra settings

[frosty goblet]

[broken glen]

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=HzmIyzRVl1A

128 cores, 256 threads, up to 4TB of ram, 16 channels of ram

[naive cedar]

epic

[steep gust]

but dual gpu cards have bad frame times

its just SLI on one card

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS9in-RHbjw

[sour ivy]

Something wrong with my pc I’ve been saying it for ages @latent light

[steep gust]

we aren't tech support

[sour ivy]

I didn’t say that

[latent light]

probably a bottleneck or temperature issue

[sour ivy]

https://imgur.com/gallery/QHOKO9Y

Should I put thermal paste on these pads

[molten bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWGAdoMz1c0

[latent light]

@sour ivy no

[sour ivy]

Ok

[latent light]

@sour ivy also don't reuse thermal paste

everytime you remove a cooler, gotta take off the used paste and put new paste on

[sour ivy]

I’m not

That’s the point of all of this!

[steep gust]

You can reuse thermal pads

paste is fine if you know what you are doing

You don't use paste instead of pads since the pads are way thicker, with the heatsink being designed for this

[latent light]

I see that you have a blower 1080

if that paste didn't feel dry then it's likely not the problem

[sour ivy]

It felt like the Sahara desert @latent light

[latent light]

yeah then it needed replaced

[sour ivy]

its down about 3 C on loadf

[latent light]

@sour ivy download https://www.userbenchmark.com/

run it with nothing else open

post scores when done

[sour ivy]

will do a bit lata

[hoary ember]

https://twitter.com/bitwitkyle/status/1162897617568690177?s=19

Wat

[sour ivy]

@latent light https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19380894

it says my 1080 is performing way below expectations

[latent light]

@sour ivy have you monitored temperatures when playing games?

[sour ivy]

yeah

max ive ever seen it hit was 80

[latent light]

have you ever done a clean Nvidia driver install?

I assume you have the ASUS 1080 turbo

[sour ivy]

I did

And I do have it

[latent light]

your 1080 is getting the same performance as a 1070 lol

does the CPU get hot?

[sour ivy]

no

is my 1080 fake or smth lol

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19381756

heres my second run @latent light

[latent light]

did you change anything

[sour ivy]

just closed almost everything

[latent light]

it was performing 28% below expectations on the first run

now it's only 8% below

which might be normal for a blower style 1080

actually maybe not

[sour ivy]

Maybe not?

It was the cube test I think

The software got messed up first time

It gave .4 FPS

oh i turned off the nvidia thing

the replay

[latent light]

your CPU and RAM are good

yeah replay causes issues

I would actually remove everything that automatically records gameplay moments

hell, remove Nvidia GeForce Experience

it's really bloatware

[sour ivy]

so yeah 8 percent isnt terrible i guess

[latent light]

not really

does replay record everything you do?

like every kill or death

[sour ivy]

no

just instant replays

if i press a hotkey

i didnt think my cpu was performing that well

i was wrong

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 2600X is capable of running BFV at 100+ fps

[sour ivy]

so something isnt right

is there any possible way

i mean any way

that my psu can throttle a gpu

[latent light]

what psu is it

[sour ivy]

some old evga 600 w

[latent light]

also, when psu can't handle a certain load, it will just shut off

psu can't affect performance

[sour ivy]

ok

so its softwware? or a dude 1080?

or the shitty game im playing?

[latent light]

BFV is unoptimized

runs worse now than it did in beta and launch

[sour ivy]

i mean im running games like r6 at 180 fps

so ig ill just blame it on the game

[latent light]

R6 at what settings?

[sour ivy]

med

[latent light]

normal I guess

[sour ivy]

really just sad that the game runs so bad

[latent light]

does the game stutter

[sour ivy]

no

occassional micro

[latent light]

talking about BF5 now not R6

[sour ivy]

ye

[latent light]

BF5 has stuttering problems for most people

[sour ivy]

its just the occassional one

its just low fps

[latent light]

although it's occasional like 3 times every match

[sour ivy]

yeah

i wouldnt mind that if i was getting 120 fps

[latent light]

what settings do you play on to only achieve 80 fps

[sour ivy]

avg of 90

and its low

other than ultra mesh

[latent light]

low settings creates a CPU bottleneck

[sour ivy]

so what should i do

[latent light]

try medium

[sour ivy]

k

[latent light]

GTX 1080 is a bit overkill for low settings

[sour ivy]

still same

[latent light]

especially with that CPU

since the Ryzen 5 2600X can only max out at 4.2 GHz and has IPC identical to Intel 3-4th gen, it holds back that 1080 some if you're playing at low settings

[sour ivy]

on a good note though, my gpu is only running at 70C while under load bfv rn

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 3600 would get about 20% higher performance than it lol

[sour ivy]

😦

[latent light]

you should be playing at a mix of medium and high settings with a 1080

funny that Ryzen 2000 series could only compete with 4th gen Intel
Ryzen 3000 series IPC is now 5% ahead of Intel 9th gen

[sour ivy]

3000 series work with b450?

[latent light]

so basically Intel has to overclock to 5 GHz to compete with Ryzen 3000 lmao

you have to update chipset driver then update BIOS

chipset driver is simple

go to AMD website then click on support

select your exact motherboard model

choose chipset driver under what version of windows you have

you download it and run it

[sour ivy]

is the 2600x worth upgrade to 3600x or 3600

[latent light]

maybe not

you would eliminate the chance of bottlenecking the 1080 but your current 2600X barely bottlenecks the 1080

[sour ivy]

im just talking overall

[latent light]

nah

Ryzen 2nd gen to 3rd gen is roughly a 20% jump in performance across the board which is impressive for a generation

but since 4th gen is rumored to run on AM4 socket, you should wait a few months until we start seeing leaks and maybe announcements

I suspect 4th gen will be a good refresh, refinements to the current BIOS issues and improved boost clocks

[sour ivy]

great

well im off to bed

i really appreciate your help

[latent light]

yw

[sour ivy]

have a good night

[latent light]

4th gen will likely be announced in january

[sour ivy]

bet

[latent light]

which is only 4 months

[jagged citrus]

Does any of you know how to fix the fkin shit logitech software? It will not recognize my keyboard and mouse lol

[supple bane]

are you using logitech gaming software and not the other one ?

the other one sucks

use lgs

and does your keyboard and mouse support it. what one do you have ?

[violet plank]

interesting read for ryzen 3000 and RAM

https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/#allcomments

ups,wrong one

https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/

first one are only the comments

manual tuning ftw

3600 cl14

[steep gust]

its always been that way

also 1900 fclk is ideal

so like 3800cl15 if you got good sticks

[violet plank]

still a good read,hard to find those for ryzen 3k

[steep gust]

you don't buy some expensive as fuck sticks

you buy a generic 3200cl14 and push them

[violet plank]

trident z 3600 cl16 should be able to do 3733 (or 3800) cl14

cheapest would be flareX 3200 cl14 i guess

for max oc

interesting on those tests,3600(x) does not profit anything on fast ram lol

3733 14 14 14 28 on 1.450 V

same on 3800,dunno why some bios use 3800 and some 3733,it's the same for 1:1

[steep gust]

well its not

and you can't run 3800 1:1

[violet plank]

was just reading that some bios don't have 3733 but 3800 instead

i got 3733,and no 3800 on mine

iirc

nah,bullshit,got both

snip

So if you want to get maximum from Zen 2 - set 1:1 divider as high as possible (3733 or 3800, depending on mobo)

snip

whatever that that means then

[jagged citrus]

yeah I was using logitech gaming software, I just got the wrong software

I had to update it lol

that solved the problem

[steep gust]

it forces 1:2 above 3600

[violet plank]

3733 acc amd

https://premiumbuilds.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/best-memory-for-ryzen-3000.jpg

[steep gust]

key word

up to

not at 3733

3600 is the highest clock using a 133 ratio before 3733

[violet plank]

source ?

[steep gust]

that slide

its a good marketing material because people just assume

[violet plank]

i wanna now for sure if it switches at 3733 or nor

[steep gust]

it does

you can set it back

[violet plank]

i can't test it with my ram

but i get a high end kit next week

[steep gust]

3200cl4 is all you need

$120 team dark pros

3200 14-14-14-31

should do 3733cl15 or so on a good imc / board

[violet plank]

gonna try 3600 14 14 14 28

[steep gust]

you want that 1900 fclk

[violet plank]

4x8 tho,dunno if that will work

[steep gust]

Depends on the board

[violet plank]

the board is good enough

strix E

about the same as the hero

minus 2 phases

[steep gust]

t top or daisy

[violet plank]

daisy :/

[steep gust]

then good luck

you want a t top board for 4x8

[violet plank]

but shouldn't matter below 4000 mhz

buildzoid did some testing on that

iirc

i know 2x is better on daisy,but i only can get 1 4x8 for testing

if it doesn't work on 4x8 i can try rip of 2 sticks

since it's a 4x kit

[steep gust]

you want that 1900 fclk

[violet plank]

all should be from the same assembly

[steep gust]

that's your goal

mixing sticks is fine if you know what you are doing

[violet plank]

yes,manual tuning

why the 1900 ?

that's a 2:1

[steep gust]

no its not

3800 ram 1900 fclk is 1:1

1900 fclk gives the best performance and a good chip should be able to do it

[violet plank]

it is ?

[steep gust]

it uses the real clock

3800 is 1900 real

[violet plank]

good to know,news to me

[steep gust]

yeah it shows the amount of misinformation people have

[violet plank]

haven't done a amd build in years

well it's a 3600 cl 16 b-die kit,should be easy to set on 1900,question remaining is what timings and subtimings i will be able wo squeeze out

and if 4x limits it

which it should not according to buildzoids testing

since it's below 4000 mhz

welp,i will know it by midweek if all goes well

[steep gust]

BZ also isn't some god of information

4x may not be limited on your board

[violet plank]

ofc not,but he is good no doubt

[steep gust]

but sure is on your CPU

[violet plank]

cpu should be fine,got a good 3700x

[steep gust]

IMC and core are entirely separate

[violet plank]

runs better than average out of the box

i mean besides clock i can run that shitty kingston ram with hynix cjr way beyond what it should be able too lol

maybe luck on both,cpu imc and the sticks

on the other hand i get better performance running it on 3200mhz instead 3600 on bfv

[steep gust]

I mean my cjr does 3600cl15

[violet plank]

no fucking clue why

[steep gust]

15-19-19-38 but still its not terrible

can probably do 16-17-17 and get better performance but oof testing

[violet plank]

running it on 16 17 17 18

nah wait

16 18 18 36

it's the absolute limit on those sticks

and i don't go over 1.45V,which is already borderline

[steep gust]

I ran my CJR for awhile at 1.5v

1.45v is fine, it doesn't really scale

[spice valve]

Hello my PC can run it BF5 ? I3-9100F ,16GB DDR4,GTX 970 4gb?

[supple bane]

yes

[latent light]

@spice valve it will be pretty stuttery

4 cores without HT

[spice valve]

Thanks

[latent light]

you will drop below 60 fps a lot

just because of that CPU

[spice valve]

Ok @latent light Thanks

[supple bane]

i disagree, im playing on a 4 core atm i can hold 80 on low settings

[latent light]

I've never seen that done on a 4 core CPU in BF5

I've even seen i5-7600K at 5 GHz struggle to run the game consistently

[spice valve]

[latent light]

the game needs at least 6 cores to be smooth

[supple bane]

again, i disagree

i mean, on some of the more intensive maps, yes it can drop to 60. but try hard settings is np on a 4 core

[latent light]

https://i.gyazo.com/665494a9854200a7d5fc9f3750c42ec2.png

benchmarks don't lie

this was done on a campaign mission too

multiplayer is even worse

[supple bane]

i guess my 4c 4t is just special

[latent light]

if a 7600K at 4.8GHz is dipping below 60 fps in BF5 campaign, I assume the multiplayer will be a slideshow

[supple bane]

i just recorded a 40 second clip of my own system playing multiplayer on fjell on medium settings and i averaged 80 fps

once it uploads ill send it to you

[latent light]

https://i.gyazo.com/264daf49cf0cc72910052cea28584312.png
https://i.gyazo.com/643aabbc3b567bac06712494f4957845.png

4 cores are dying

[supple bane]

i agree, but im saying, for the time being, they can play bfv just fine

im not protecting 4 cores. im just saying, that for now, they do the job

https://streamable.com/miedx

here

oh ffs the fps geforce fps counter doesnt show up in recordings

well at least you can see it doesnt stutter i guess

[fast sedge]

Hi! Now I started played BF5 after a long time. I notice (I probably had it before I stopped playing for a long time)
I have kinda big fps drops, and lags and maybe low fps in general. I even set my settings to preset low. 1080p.
My specs: RX580 8GB, Ryzen 5 1600 6x 3.2ghz and 16gb ram.
I should be able to run the game completly flawless

[sour ivy]

Well a few months ago game ran a lot better

[fast sedge]

maybe but I should still get a lot more fps/ or stable fps

anyone got an idea what I could try?

[latent light]

@fast sedge I also have a ryzen 5 1600 and RX 580 and I get 80 fps on ultra, might want to check temperatures

also, do you have single or dual channel ram

[fast sedge]

dual

[violet plank]

wtf,bfv just used more than 15gig ram

[fast sedge]

well the problem is I built my pc when prices were high, so I bought kinda the worst rx for 300€...

the temps are higher than others, if I would buy 2 fans for my case, that should help a bit?

[violet plank]

anything overclocked ?

and what are higher than other temps ?

[fast sedge]

nothing oc.
GPU: ~80 degrees
CPU: 80-90

[sour ivy]

That’s hot

[fast sedge]

both=

[sour ivy]

Mostly cpu

[fast sedge]

cpu was also over 90, like 94

[sour ivy]

Yeah that’s way too hot

[fast sedge]

ye I got the default xd I am gonna buy a better cpu cooler then? Could that cause the drops?

[sour ivy]

Do you have the stock wraith cooler?

And yes it easily could

Your cpu is thermal throttling when it’s that hot

[fast sedge]

it is the default one, not wraith I guess

[sour ivy]

Have you ever taken it off

And put it back on

[fast sedge]

nah just built it ~5 months agho

[sour ivy]

That’s way too hot

Buy some thermal paste

And remove the paste on rn

And then apply the new thermal paste

If that doesn’t fix it you need a new cooler

[fast sedge]

well a new cooler isn`t bad anyways right?

[sour ivy]

Yeah but it might just be that your thermal paste is dried out

Somehow

Because my 2600x has a stock cooler

And never goes above 70 under load

[fast sedge]

I just didn`t wanted to spend even more money than 1000 (xd) back when I bought the pieces.. but now I dont know if I am able to change the cooler (experience)

https://i.imgur.com/MLvshmM.jpg

[sour ivy]

Use YouTube homie

[fast sedge]

😛

[sour ivy]

Can’t see the temps it’s too low res

But if you’re at 90 you’re probably thermal throttling

Which significantly drops your gpu speed

Causing lag

[fast sedge]

well okay, thanks for you help. And I just read a bit, do you know if SuperFetch disabled helps?

so cpu can underclock the gpu because of temps?

[sour ivy]

No idea

[fast sedge]

k I dont even know what that is

thanks again 😄

[sour ivy]

Noctua NT-H1 Pro-Grade Thermal Compound Paste (Gray) 1.4 ml, 3.5g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002CQU14A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JdCwDbV359EH1

Buy this

And learn how to apply thermal paste

My theory is thst somehow your paste is fucked up

[fast sedge]

yea, and I think I am gonna buy a bequiet cpu fan

[sour ivy]

If it’s not fixed after that you need a new cooler

Check if that fan comes with thermal paste

If it does don’t buy what I linked you

[fast sedge]

k appreciate it

[sour ivy]

Please don’t hesitate to ask more questions

Other people know a lot more than me tho

[violet plank]

only a tiny dot of thermal paste is needed,with too much you fuck up the temps

[fast sedge]

just got 20€ amazon gift card gonna look what I can get 😄 (I would like to buy on other sites, where I "buyed" my pc. but if I got gift card ^^)