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shouldnt you blow out the dust occasionally?
That goes without saying tho 😃
Yeah so I’ll be putting new thermal paste in my card today
And buy a fan to aim at it
do you have your pc on your floor or something ?
Because It takes months for any visible dust to build in my pc
I have mine on the floor
that's a render
looks nice,but tbh i have my doubts about the thermal design
Better than the reference pcb 
i would very much love a silent radial design
or just something silent that blows the hot air outside the case
I’m overclocking to 5ghz on my stock cooler
How do you overclock?
I am watching youtube now, and downloading something called MSI afterburner and kombustor
google can probably explain it in way better detail
kombustor is not a good GPU stress test
but does it work?
Use SuperPostion, 3D Mark Firestrike + Timespy (extreme), and games
Generally no, your GPU's VRM will throttle and limit clocks
Its similar to FurMark in that it goes for max power consumption
But the man here on youtube explains how to use itm i dont want to learn the other things myself
SuperPostion is literally
download
click run
same with 3D Mark
If you don't buy it, you can't bypass the CPU tests but they are short
yes
GPUs are not as easy as CPUs to stress test, as there is a massive variety of workloads that all put different stress on it
And delete kombustor and msi afterburner?
nah MSI Afterburner is good
oh ok
Kombustor just isn't a great stress test
from this link? https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition
yes
ok thx
click windows
Click the "Download Demo" button on the Steam store page to download 3DMark Basic Edition
exactly that
core clock is the GPU core clock speed, on cards (Maxwell and above) with GPU Boost its an offset to the V/F curve
on other cards it'll be a number you can set
memory clock is the real clock of the VRAM
Ok, but what do I have to change to overclock my GPU?
Hit it
core / memory clocks, power limits, voltage, fan speed, etc
r/overclocking: All things overclocking go here. Learn to overclock, ask experienced users your questions, boast your rock-stable, sky-high OC and …
Will my fan melt if I turn it to 100?
oh
My PC has exceeded the temperature of the sun
ahahahhaha
you should probably stop living in chernobyl then
So I should change the core clock?
r/overclocking: All things overclocking go here. Learn to overclock, ask experienced users your questions, boast your rock-stable, sky-high OC and …
Read that
then read the guide for the GPU manufacturer you have
I am not good reading instructions, I am better listening kinda. But I`ll try
well every guide I know of is text
but youtube should have guides for most GPU generations
Pascal / Turing is identical
yeah see I don't watch videos on overclocking since I understand it so I would miss anything from big youtubers
but yeah Jays video is probably detailed enough
What GPU do you have?
gt210?
oof
So maxwell
ikr, i bought this pc when i was a little kid
yeah maxing it should be fine
i just cared about gaming, not performance
yeah hahah, im planning on buying rtx 2070 super now
Hmm
i dont see why it would be idiotic
uhh
anything i think hot enough to melt leggos would probably have some sort of dissipating cooling system on it
case is top mount psu?
uh lego don't melt at any temperature achievable by a GPU exhaust air
Ok dope
The psu is on the bottom
My GPU's shroud is plastic
I turned my core clock to 617 and now it froze
and almost certainly not to the grade of lego
Bruh
like +617?
yes
Vro
is my pc long gone now?
No
oh so it is natural to crash?
If you increase by that much yes
but, my whole pc froze
yes
Because you increased it by such an enormous amount dude
imagine if i pressed save
you ran clocks only possible on LN2
it would fail
It’s not just gonna die brother
Afterburner is a software and you can just reboot it
not really
it moves air over the heatsink
You might have heatpipes
but probably not on a 950
https://hwbot.org/submission/4209237_ that run took ages to get that score
950 
after all the software tweaks
Yikes
haha
that 2gb of ram is the cringe part
asus doesn't make CPUs
idk
what happens if i turn memory clock to full?
it crashes
get ready for it to crash in games
just because it passes stress tests doesn't mean it won't be perfectly stable in games
ohhh
you just drop core clocks by like 10-20mhz and it'll generally work
i will not add by 500 every time i guess haha
when i started a stress test on 3dmark the new thing that loaded in just crashed
you need to be increasing like 50...at most
my friends have 3 monitors, and a 960 gtx card. is the reason hes crashing because it is so bad gpu?
no
my iGPU can do triple monitors
but yeah add like +50 core then run the test
if it passes
kk
add another like +25
yes
i got like 10 fps, and then boom it crashed
set the core offset to +0
run a benchmark with afterburner open
there is a graph if you scroll down
It applies a -90 offset
it will clock down
and you lose performance
lool imagine doing that on someones pc
like put it to -200
Because lower clocks=lower temps
So in a normal desktop where the cooling isn’t sufficient, people clock down to save some precious degrees
This is the V/F curve the GPU uses for the frequency at the voltage(s) allowed by GPU Boost
and the air is so cold it gives you a cold
3600 would be worth the xtra
ehhhh
60-70 more
for what? maybe 10 fps
Today I am upgrading my broth·er-in-law's Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 3600 and of course we'll be running benchmarks to compare! Now I tried to keep this as a ...
3600 is about 20% faster than 2600 in about 90% of games, up to 40% faster in CPU intensive games
at least from this it shows same fps or 10 fps advatange for 3600
GPU bottleneck in that test
are you not getting a 1660ti?
not my build but it's just a budget build
well for that budget build are you not using a 1660ti?
which the benchmark shows the same for
yes but that really depends on a lot of factors, if you're going for higher fps, 3600 can achieve 144hz much easier than the 2600
if you're playing BFV, drop the settings to low/medium to play competitively
personally i would keep the 2600 and get a 5700xt with the cost of the price difference
CPU bottleneck at 1080p
2600 single core performance is on par with a stock i7-3770K

1440p
is that with the 2600?
oof
but we care about what is paired with gpu but not cpu now?
It’s a 1440p, changing the cpu won’t make too much difference on that
AND AGAIN it’s on dx11, amd gpu’s seem to perform better on dx 12
if you're using a 2600 at 1080p, any GPU more powerful than RX 5700 or RTX 2060 will get bottlenecked, especially if not playing at ultra settings
so youd rather get a 3600 and a 1660ti so you dont bottleneck?
no rather a 2600 and 1660ti to keep the budget
vs a 2600 and a 5700 that will bottleneck but get better performance
2600 and 1660ti are a great pair if you don't play at ultra settings
Even tho I probs won’t be getting a gpu for a while, my next gpu will be a second hand 1080
yea i havent argued vs changing anything, i commented on spending extra for 3600 not being worth it for a 1660ti
and I think it will go well with the 2600
if you wanna play at ultra then get a RX 5700 (non-XT) or a 2060
the thing is, the 1080 is dirt cheap second hand
although 5700 is way better value than 2060
that’s why I’m attracted to it
all this because i said the price from 2600 to 3600 isnt worth it for a 1660ti
but you also said keep the 2600 and get a 5700 XT which would bottleneck at 1080p
i had a typo, just 5700
but yes, i would rather put the price difference towards a 5700 vs a 3600
I bet by new years, the 3600 will drop in price
to around $160-170
maybe even less lol
same
3600 should be paired with a 1080/2070/5700 or better
3600 is almost on par with a 8700K
the hilarious thing about 3rd gen Ryzen is that it's even cheaper to manufacture than 1st and 2nd gen
due to the new chiplet design
so next year we could see the 3600 at $100 lmao
which would be the greatest value CPU ever in the market
once revenue exceeds the costs of R&D, 3rd gen prices are going to come down quite a bit
it will be interesting to see what intel does to respond to all this zen 2 noise
another 14nm refresh
why not buy rtx 2080ti and be done with it
eh it's not that simple
Because you need the CPU power to go with the gpu power
if you dont, you get a bottleneck
whats a bottleneck
Which means the CPU is holding back the gpu or vice versa
ohhh
the gpu simply cant perform at its peak due to the CPU holding it back
Again, it can work both ways

A bottleneck always exist
you're a bottleneck 

wack
don't worry about it 
Help, i downloaded a voice changer called voicemod. And when I didnt want it more, I uninstalled voicemod. And then my microphone volume turns super low, and when I try to boost it, it is still low..
it sounds like someone is screaming down from a well
should i remove my mic from the sounds tab? Like delete it?
wtf,2080ti getting so hot that it even heats up hdd/ssd behind the mb ? 
anyone with a 2080ti can confirm that they get hot as hell ?
I tried deleting the microphone, but now when i try to plug it back in. Nothing happens, windows does not give me a message that anything has been plugged in
It wont even recognize my fucking headphones
@supple bane Wait, are those mandrel-bent power cables? 😮
@mild bough Restart, see if it fixes itself. If not, deinstall drivers and reinstall.
I have restarted, but it still does not detect anything
But what do you mean by deinstall drivers?
dude
youre a legend, it worked
thanksss, i thought i had to buy new headphones. @molten bramble
thaaaanksss so much, i already started planning to delete everything in my pc just to get it working
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Imagine boosting that thing by like a million and making the most op PC which just requires a mouse and a keyboard
Million trillion
BAHAHHAAH
standard aussie mouse 
remember when Samsung mocked Apple for removing headphone jack
now Samsung removed headphone jack and removed their old commercials that mocked Apple

@molten bramble yes they are! Would that not be sick in Matt white!?! With a white themed build
Or altrrnsting, Matt white metallic black !
Again in a white themed build
it would be expensive as hell but totally worth it
do you have a gpu monitoring program running?
can you tell the fan speed/ what temp you are hitting
@violet plank open air cards exhaust out both sides of the heatsink
So they heat the motherboard PCB around the GPU
Most likely you SSDs have no airflow and just keep getting hotter
ASUS Strix 5700XT has a boost clock of 2035 MHz
should get equal performance to the 2080
Good 5700xt on the blower did 2100-2150
yeah I wonder how well the triple fan cards will overclock
5700 XT reference has 1905 boost
anniversary has 1975
Do you guys think a jump from a 9600K too a 9700K is worth it
rumors say that the 5700 XT Strix gets about 8% higher performance than reference
which sounds normal
what you'd expect from comparing a blower to a triple fan
all in all, 2070 Super is becoming more and more pointless
@latent light GN did the hybrid mod and there wasn't much of a boost from memory
Wat
what tower?
Pretty sure almost all desks will fit your case 
@steep gust not my rig,someone told me that,i don't own a 2080ti,but since the ssd is behind mb and the metal mounting for the mb it must get very hot,never heard of anything like this before
guess the temp limit of the 2080ti is pretty high anyways ?
my 1080ti oc 2ghz+ never exceeds 70-73 celsisus
wish there was a custom gpu with reversed fan airflow (pull instead of push)
if you just could flip the original fans 180 degree,but doubt that works on any card at all
since 99% is glued anyways
like I said, it would be possible just not pretty
also, I'm pretty sure the temps would be worse doing it that way
nope,not on an inverted build,that's why i want it like that,card fans show upwards that way
much better heat transfer
out of the case
like that
Eh it shouldn't make much difference if you have good case airflow
Like front intake top exhaust
Natural convection loses to a low rpm fan quickly
depends on the case i guess
oh i see i mixed something up
gpu isn't that much of a change,but cpu is
weird that it does not affect the gpu that much
just trying to find the perfect balance between silence and cooling
gonna try putting in some high airflow fans with the standard layout
cause cpu idle temps always bothered me
I mean
found a problem already
stupid assus software
Ez
yeah,behaves weird
just for fast testing
afterwards it's on a pwm hub with manual control
cpu temps already 5 celsius down in idle
and still dead silent
you can say about asus what you want,they got crap shit and really good stuff,but their bios is imo the best
but for a x570 mb atm i would like gigabytes vrm,msi fan layout and asus bios 
and msi heatpipe
5700 xt custom review,looks really good
at least in terms of temp and noise,performance gain isn't that high
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Only 5ghz
that stuttering,like in bfv 
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Looking for a 1440p monitor would you guys say the 2070 can do well at 1440p?
Anyone else have an issue where BF5 is constantly at 100% CPU usage?
What CPU do u have @silver zinc
6700K
Its never gonna hit more than 20-30% even if it fully loads a bunch of threads
Does this game use alot of cores?
yes
6700k is fine for most games
BFV can utilize 8 cores
Yeah that's what i thought too but i'm not too sure
if you're on a budget, Ryzen 5 3600 would be a nice jump
if you want the best performance possible, i9-9900K
Yeah was thinking of going to an I-7 but same MoBo but i was also looking at getting into AMD for my CPU
you can't upgrade on your current motherboard
highest you can go is 7700K which is barely better than the 6700K
I can get the I-7 Kaby lake
7700k is not worth the cost
Would it be worth upgrading to a 9700K from a 9600k?
not worth the cost nor worth the time putting it into the socket lmao
and while you can mod Z170 / Z270 to run Coffeelake
Its not really worth it on a lot of boards
damn already upgrading a CPU that's not even a year old
sounds like intel

9600K should be fine on BFV if you overclock it
due to recent updates, BFV is stuttery to everyone
game ran great during alpha, beta and launch then it fell on its face in 2019
Yeah I was debating on if I should do but seen there is hardly any differençes
In most games now
HT isn't much anyways
y'all greatly overestimate how much it actually does in a lot of workloads
compare 4 core/4 thread CPU to a 4 core/8 thread CPU though
i5 before 8th gen are struggling in modern games
older i7s are saved by HT
hello, im currently having issues with battlefield 3, 4, and v . im getting these really bad frametime spikes (game freezes for about a second or less). its more noticeable on large conquest servers, but still present on smaller gamemodes like chainlink in bf4. i have an intel core i7 6700, rtx 2060, 16 gb ram ddr4, 550w evga supernova g3, and 1 tb hdd seagate 7200rpm https://prnt.sc/or4cb6
anyone have any suggestions in mind?
ive used ddu many times, this started happening after i installed the new rtx 2060
Could easily be driver issues
Do you have your old GPU still to test to make sure it is your GPU?
unfortunately i was having an issue where one of my cpu cores would be fully utilized (fixed that though by uninstalling drivers from device manager)
BF3 / BF4 are mostly low core count stuff
It'll load up a few cores (especially the one feeding the GPU) really high
Especially on a modern gpu
this was process explorer showing what was happening even at desktop https://prnt.sc/or4dca
although that isssue isnt happening anymore after i uninstalled gpu drivers from device manager
but im still having these stuttering issues
This happens in the test range?
I get almost micro stuttering when my network is being a pain in the ass
havent tested test range, will do though
i was getting this network performance error in bf4 and bf5 https://www.fad-multigaming.de/img/bf4__server_performance_icons/low_fps_servere.jpg
That's uh
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still happens on vsync, not as noticeable though and i would honestly prefer without vsync on bf4 since input lag is a lot more noticeable on that versus bfv
and capping fps doesnt work either
Rip
Hey, can anyone help me figure out why my BFV is crashing to desktop as soon as I start it?
You updated your graphics drivers?
@lofty light You know, I don't think I have...
How do I check for NVidia cards?
I'll try after this MWO match ends
@lofty light You thought right, my drivers aren't up to date. I'll update em now and see what happens.
No dice - it loads up a little bit, then freezes and abruptly crashes to desktop.
@lofty light Any other tricks to try?
@fading thicket repair game files
or reinstall the game
What are your specs too, most likely not but if your below minimum specs your game won’t launch
@supple bane I wasn't able to repair game files earlier as Origin was stuck on resuming the update for Apex Legends.
I fixed that by deleting Apex (and uninstalling BFV along the way) so i'm going to try playing again after it becomes available.
like I said it’s a long shot but what are your specs ?

Here are some more mouses @supple bane
last one is pretty nice
@supple bane Update, after a fresh reinstall I am able to play the game now !
Good stuff
I found a card that is called «HP RTX 2080 OEM» , is it a good card?
It was a used card, perfect condition. 550 dollars
a component that a company brought to put into a prebuilt system to sell on
And what is wrong with that?
it won't come with warrenty, and It can have other negatives too
There's nothing wrong with OEM cards, just know that they run a bit hotter
What is warrenty?
Are you taking the piss lol ?
Warranty is if your part breaks you can call the manufacturer to get a replacement part
for free
Oh thats good
well it has to be within certain requirements
oh ok
Most say it has to be within the first three months of purchase and if there is any user damage warranty cannot be claimed
ohh i know what warranty is, it is called guarantee where i live
So do you think it is worth to buy?
Hmm
depends on your bank account then really
I would say the amd 5700xt would be better
How much is that?
About 400 dollars
then wait for top of the line navis
So it is overkill so I can play with ultra on my 1920x1028
At 60hz? Yeah that's kinda overkill
Both are yeah
if you only have a 60hz monitor that don't get the e 5700xt
literally the detention of a waste of money
If you are playing on 1080p 60hz just get a budget card tbh
no i want overkill
remember when I taught you what a bottleneck was, that is he ultimate bottleneck
Just get a budget card like the Titan RTX
ignore him ^
then i can decide to buy a better monitor later
yeah titan rtx is only like 3000 dollars
hahah
It's like $8k here
Just get a 2070 
You can get a decent 1440p 144hz on eBay for like 300 dollars
yeah, but is it possible to play with bottleneck?
Probs not tbh
Of course, you'll ALWAYS have a bottleneck
what?
In my PC it's my CPU
i cant get rid of it?
oh
But I didnt quite understood what bottleneck was
Oh i get it, it is like limiting the performance
The limiting part of your PC, so in your case the monitor as your cpu and GPU are good enough but they could go further with higher frames or resolution
Yeah
ohhh
But if I will get 120 frames on ultra or high with a 1920x1028 monitor, heck yea
you can but you see the frames
The Hz on a monitor means the max frame rate the monitor can display
so in your case you may be able to get 120 fps but in reality you can only see 60
My monitor is 75 Hz and I average about 80-100 fps on ultra but still I can only see 75 fps
So I will just buy a gpu first, then buy a monitor later
but how do i know if the gpu is compatible with my pc, i thought i only needed to know the watt
i have 550 watt
it will always be compatible
Graphics cards are a component that will be compatible with anything
Oh
I did not know
Because when i bought my cpu
It wasnt compatible, so i had to buy a new motherboard
yes CPU's have to be compatible
Does any of you have any idea about a low end pc that could run 1080p 60fps while streaming via ps4 while using an elgato?
Yeah 500 sounds great
Well, i have no idea. But I can investegate a littlep
If you want a good cheap 1080p 144hz monitor look into this one
Just got it and i'm liking it so far
If you're streaming using al elgato you can really use any computer
I tried to find something on yt but nothing about the actual build
Because you're just encoding not rendering and encoding
Any I-5 will do the job fine
i have no idea what elgato actually is
Is a capture card
Yea well I am living in eu
me too
Lol
are you in norway?
@silver zinc do you have 5 mins? I wanna buy a pc, so which i5, what ram should I use do I need a gpu? I dont rly know how the capture card works
I live in Austria
The capture card basically is doing all of the hard work, you're just encoding and streaming from the PC
Something like this should do the trick for you
Thank you very much, sir
Hmmm... buy two 27" monitors for a triple header or go over to a 32" for the center and flank 27" monitors on both sides... decisions, decisions.
Same size for all 3
@silver zinc encoding is the hard work 
A capture card is only needed if you are going to use a second streaming rig
@steep gust I am inclined to agree, simply because I don't want to deal with that little annoyance when moving an app window between two monitors of different size/resolution.
what I hate is when the monitors have different colours
Just buy a wide one
@molten coral I'd considered it, but they're still higher than I want to pay atm for a 49" 120Hz Samsung @ ~ $1,300 - 1,500.
Whereas two additional 27" screens gives me 81" of space to work with and/or reconfigure based on what I am doing.
That's at literally 1/3 of the cost.
Half the cost if I go OLED instead of LCD.
Yeah, they are pretty expensive that is for sure.
But I wouldn't be able to go back now if someone told me to use 2 27'' screens instead of the one I use now.
I don't discount the avantage of a no-bezel separation, but it's not worth the cost to me atm.
Can anyone recommend a good 1920x1028 minimum 144hz monitor? For around 200-300 dolars
If they come down to about $800, which they will eventually, I might do that.
@mild bough I have a Samsung 27" 144Hz LCD (C27JG50QQN) on this build, works great, can be found on Amazon within that pricerange, less if you pick one up used probably.
Next step up would be the OLED version, but you're looking at a 1/3-1/2 of the price markup for that.
There is a 32" of this model that is pretty nice as well.
I like 27 monitors, the size is perfect. The size makes the eye have good overview
What is a oled monitor?
A monitor using OLED
Lol... what does X mean, it means X...thats helpful 
What of my pc components do I need combine to find out how much watt of my Power Supply I am currently using
i have 550w. i know it is expensive, but it sounds kinda cool to buy a 1500w
then you wont have to buy a new psu for probably a decade
Power draw is going down
wdym?
1500w PSUs exist for exteme overclocking and other super extreme systems
Like CPUs / GPUs will draw less power in a decade than today
It's an extreme waste to buy >750w PSUs for a single GPU / consumer CPU
not sure a psu would even last that long, they have a shelf life
oh
Most high end PSUs have a like 12-15 year warranty
in the 80’s you needed to have like 99999w psu
I have a vega64 is it worth using my 1440p 120hz monitor or should I go for my 1080p 120hz? :) 1080p one has free sync and I play battlefield 1/5 GTA V star wars battlefront 2 black ops 4 sniper elite (most common games I play) would 1440p seem more appropriate for my gpu
It's only coz my cousin said that the vega64 is more suited for 1440p as its overkill for 1080p
nothing is yet overkill for 1080p
A 2080ti is XD
I mean, if you're going 280Hz then sure
XDD I dont really notice much after 100hz
I would get a 2080Ti just for piece of mind that i can run literally everything
would rather get a 3rd gen ryzen tho
youve got a 3rd gen ryzen and ordered the 3900x too?
Na, I'm counting my backorder as having it as I've already paid
@lofty light throwing that money around like it's just tissue paper
considering 3rd gen Ryzen is cheaper to manufacture than the previous gens, probably will see bigger price cuts than we did with 2nd gen
Big bawlla!
can't wait to see the 3600 at only $150
although that may not happen if Intel doesn't release anything to compete at the current price point of the 3600
yeah not as high as 14nm
and CPUs take months to manufacture
3600 at $150 and 3700X at under $300 would be nice
Ryzen 4000 design is complete and will be most likely be ready Q2 2020
when 4th gen launches, 3700X will probably be around $250 lol
do you think AMD could of stayed on 14/12nm and improved it over time like Intel did with 14nm

will never know because they want to keep shrinking
they kept improving bulldozer into all its iterations
yeah when you don't need to produce and manufacture its easier
@molten bramble just spending literally all my spending money on tech, it's my only hobby really
I mean, as long as you got the priorities nailed down, what you do with the excess shouldn't be anyone's concern. yolo! 😃
Mini-STX motherboards for Ryzen would be cool

nvm could just buy this lmao
comes with a case
it's for Ryzen APUs, only 6 inches tall
3400g is pretty good
@latent light is that the CMOS battery sitting directly on the chipset? 👀
But yeah mini stx is a mobo format I really want to get behind, it's just a pity that MTX GPUs have no real standard
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damn you can build this system for less than $300 depending on the CPU you choose
very nice
Oooh
Pfft, mini PC's are meant to thermal throttle 
fuck normal power supplies, why don't they just make larger AC adapters 
Lol
I've got one of these in my mini PC https://www.geeekstore.com/shop/custom-flex-atx-modular-psu/
how well does that work?
also, i've seen a lot of mini PC's with watercooling setups so thermal throttling isn't a thing?
Haven't had any problems with mine except the 40mm fan has dodgy bearings so it squeaks
Lul
According to reviews it's a common issue
But hey, I just happen to have a spare 40mm noctua fan so 🤷
couldn't you replace the bearings?
Not worth it for a crappy 40mm fan
Ryzen 4000 architecture design is already complete, using 7nm EUV (extreme ultra violet).
20% more transistor density and also 20% more power efficient over Ryzen 3000.
Their later generation 7 nm (N7FF+) production is planned to use EUV multiple patterning and entered risk production in August 2018, and volume production in June 2019.
Ryzen 4000 expected release: Q2 2020.

How expensive is that going to be 👀
My predictions for 4th gen Ryzen:
- 5-8% greater IPC than 3000 series
- 4.8 GHz single core boost
- 3466 MHz memory support out of box
- No X670 chipset
- 6 core/12 thread APU


I wouldn’t say 4.8ghz
maybe the high end ones actually
but I wouldn’t say r5 4600 would have 4.8
https://youtu.be/4WfhJo20beA @steep gust
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16GB HBM stacks

somewhat disappointing,loud,heavy,big (2.7slots),power hungry and very little performance gain against the reference design :/
guess they just used a nvidia strix cooling design,which is wrong cause of the much smaller amd gpu die
GPU vendors are loving the 2.5-3 slot cards
Whereas I wouldn't go back from water-cooling it now
1.4 Kg 
they just need to make a bigger surface area of the chip,easier to cool,but more expensive i guess
The thing is
For AMD
as long as temperatures are within safe metrics and noise / cooling is good enough
They don't have to change anything
pascal had a pretty small die compared to Turing and it is leagues easier to cool than Turing

Both scores are invalid on HWBot but show the strength of 128 cores 
why would that be invalid?
nitro custom x5700 is way better in terms of noise,seems asus failed hard with their strix design
sapphire
well,nvm,sucks on performance bios aswell
44 decibel,that's loud af
oh that's for the xt,fans hitting the cooling limit there,the normal 5700 with 37 decibel seems ok
guess more cuda cores and the additional rt cores produce more heat on turing? @steep gust
yeah that's normal
Ideas on how I can make my blower 1080 a lil cooler?
not much short of reapplying paste/pads and/or getting a new cooler on it
at that point the cost isnt justified vs a new card
Probably works
I saw someone else who like removed part of the bracket
So more hot air could leave
And that helped temps but I probably don’t wanna do that
I don’t think it’s throttling it’s just toasty
It never goes past 78 C
If I bring up the fan speeds to 100% it’s around 72 in Bfv
seems normal
Is it double or triple fans
double
I’m also just sad that I don’t get 144 FPS in Bfv
But I know the game runs shit for most people
only way I could get 144 is dropping to low but screw that
Wait you don’t get 144 on a 2080?
not on ultra 1440p
2700x
just let PBO do its thing
manually overclocking these isnt worth it unless you have a custom loop
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Those would be safe? Like name brand?
waterblocks are waterblocks
EK is a "name brand" company and their blocks are shit most of the time
I’m not tryna fry my parts
You can probably find the EK block for your card on ebay
yes...and the lines, and the radiator fans, and the fittings. its stupid expensive just to cool that card
damaged
at that point you might as well just take the side off the case and point a desk fan right at it lol
Lmfao
That’s not an option. I have cats
I really want to just have a test bench setup but they’d fuck it up
I’ll just see where it’s at after new paste
Also need to dust my pc and fix cable management lol
And get more than 1 case fan
But I’m getting a new case anyways. Need something smaller and better looking
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very nice
same perf, better everything else
Thermaltake Versa H18 Tempered Glass Black SPCC Micro ATX Gaming Computer Case CA-1J4-00S1WN-01 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079G3TNDM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qvAuDb6K2WGNT
Is this a good case
Wait wtf the 5700xt is so good
only if you have a micro atx board
That's a large case for mATX
Thank
granted you can go cheaper, but i like the fractal cases
wait, this one instead
(sorry about massive links)
do you want a side window?
those are what i would get, personally i would get the masterbox
the thermaltake doesnt come with a fan iirc
I LOL'd
thermaltake isnt my go to brand, but they seem to be decent budget cases
Yeah
any help? i just got an error saying my gpu does niot support my direct x 11.....i played the game hours ago everything was fine
i repaired the game still nothing
reboot, try again
classic
i restarted my pc and the game worked. i cant understand this shit.....what made the game fluster? ugh these technologies nowadays
if a restart fixed it then it wasnt the games fault
dx errors are generally driver issues
how do i know if my drivers have issues though? i have everything updated and i got my pc from march
so its still new
CPU doesn't matter much at 4K
Yeah but what gpu would I need
RX 5700 XT or RTX 2080
5700 XT gets better performance than the 2080 in BFV for some reason
Ah okay! What fps does the vega64 uv/oc get? And radeon is more optimised maybe?
looks like 5700 XT beats vega 64 by around 15% in BFV
Ah okay! That's not worth the extra price for the 5700xt then
As vega64 is 300 pounds
Vega 64 averages around 45-50 fps at 4K ultra settings
Ahh okay! :) is that with AA off
yeah
Awesome :D and stock settings or an oc
stock
The sapphire is a 3 fan so I'm sure that will be okay :)
I could overclock and undervolt a vega64 to get 50fps at 4k ultra and turn a few settings to high :) thanks man
Sapphire has an exclusive feature with resolution scaling that works with all games, even if they don't support it

Its no different than DSR
That's not how that works 
If you play at a lower resolution and upscale it, you end up at the same fps
@latent light where did you downloaded this version of trixx
it's for the Sapphire RX 5700 series
oh...
Ohhhh.......how embarrassing 
looks like it is just making it easier to use the amd built in upscaling
I think the amd tweaker requires making a custom resolution after enabling upscaling and the trixx just makes it easier
can anyone confirm?
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