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#technology
steep gust
pallid silo
Ohhh okay! XD how long should I run firesteike and super position for
steep gust
GPUs are not super simple to stress test
After a couple of runs I would just go play a game you are okay with crashing
latent light
I guess no third party modems are compatible with my internet
I can only use the modem that centurylink provides
I asked support and they said that only centurylink branded modems are compatible
I'm trying to get a modem/router combo with better bandwidth and longer range
Junk
wonder if I can keep this modem but get an aftermarket router to pair with it
violet plank
asus z370/90 are garbage,the x570 strix-e/hero are top notch,might depend where you live cause of huge price differences
don't see any sense in that vid,better watch buildzoid
asrock x570 taichi is still fail by design
steep gust
The M10A / M11A are perfectly fine
violet plank
what are those ?
steep gust
Maximus X / XI Apex
molten bramble
@prime jasper Re: the APU conversation, probably not at this time due to the amount of variants and hard to track which on what. He currently has a CPU map as well that he's working on, so maybe incorporated there at a later date.
steep gust
Also Intel likes to brand their iGPUs differently when there is zero difference
red trellis
how much i can sell a crucial drr4 16gb 2400mhz? i buy 2 year ago for 160 dolars, here in uruguay, the same memory is 125 dolars now its work well
latent light
XFX bringing back the R9 280X design
best looking card I've seen
the name though, they are calling it THICC
it has a grill design
looks like a classic Buick grill
prime jasper
lmao thicc
lofty light
I mean, they know their audience alright
cosmic warren
latent light
$8k CPU destroys two $10k CPUs
And uses 225w tdp while the competition uses 410w for less performance
Epyc is going to be the server market leader for a while
Also 256MB cache
supple bane
I want that you just for the name 
steep gust
@latent light No one pays MRSP for server hardware
IIRC someone I know paid like $4000 each for like 8 Xeon 8180s for their business
I want to install an OS on my CPU cache
DDR4 5900 on what looks to be CJR
mild bough
I have I7-7700 and 16GB ram, I am looking to buy a GPU Card. Which one should I buy? And the budget is on 600$.
mild bough
I want to buy a RTX 2070. Do you think I will get good FPS on Battlefield?
winged gull
wym ofcourse u will get good fps
prime jasper
ouch
mild bough
Yeah ikr, and because of my bad GTX card. I get like 30/40 FPS. And if I am lucky I get 50 FPS...
mild bough
Ok, thanks for the help
storm osprey
msrp is 500 but idk how much they are actually going for
5700xt is good cheaper alternative
but i would wait for aftermarket cards
for bfv i even think the 5700xt gets more fps iirc
mild bough
Is ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2070 a good GTX card?
storm osprey
i wouldnt get a standard 2070 unless its a good deal
the super alternatives replace them at the same price
mild bough
Anything is better than a 950
storm osprey
true and you have a healthy budget, doesnt mean you shouldnt spend your money efficiently
the cheapest 2070 is only 50 dollars less than the 2070 super
while 5700xt are at 400 but thats blower style
steep gust
does it say super
If not, its not a super
I would wait a few more weeks for the 5700xt AIB cards
storm osprey
@mild bough what monitor do you have or plan to get? does it have gsync or freesync?
steep gust
Budget would be freesync, gsync is an instant +$100-200
mild bough
uh, i have no idea what kind of monitor i have
MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO, is htat a good one you think?
storm osprey
well if the monitor has some sort of adaptive sync it would likely determine what gpu you should get
sounds top end, which imo i go for cards closest to msrp that at least has dual fans that dont suck
mild bough
ok that makes no sense to me, can you explain
storm osprey
super gaming x trio sounds like a triple fan card, which means its probably more expensive than the normal dual fan cards
if that price increase is worth it, depends on who you ask
but if it does cost like 50 bucks more than the cheapest dual fan card youre definitely looking at a worse price to performance ratio
which imo, is the one thing that matters
supple bane
@storm osprey 5700s with a proper Cooler have already been announced
storm osprey
who the fuck is cooke grace
sour ivy
Should I get a new psu for my 1080
I have a 550 w rn
But I’m gonna have a 2600x and 1080 now and plan on overcloking cpu
mild bough
Ill save up for an RTX 2070 super
storm osprey
granted idk how much power draw goes up with OC compared to these numbers
sour ivy
Ok cool
latent light
550 watt gold power supply is enough for anybody except galax HOF 2080Ti owners
oh and Radeon VII and Vega 64 users
mild bough
When I finished updating Battlefield, all it says is "Finishing" it has done for like 10 minutes. Help
latent light
nothing we can do
latent light
origin/battlefield related issues are nearly impossible to fix unless you reinstall or repair files
storm osprey
yea origin shit is just slow, usually just wait
mild bough
like how much better is the rtx 2070 super than a regular rtx 2070?
pliant hatch
storm osprey
thicc
latent light
custom 5700XT will probably be a little faster than the current blower ones that we have
storm osprey
imo unless i was going for 2080 super territory and dont have a gsync monitor i would get an aftermarket 5700xt
latent light
if you play Battlefield V a lot, 5700XT is a no-brainer
it beats the 2080 in BFV
and costs $300 less
storm osprey
crazy considering bfv is a ray tracing title too
latent light
nvidia title
sour ivy
can’t wait for Friday gonna have my 1080
fallen harbor
hey guys i found an rx 580 8gb with a big discount
is it worth it?
im not in touch with amd gpus
so idk how powerful they are
sour ivy
How much
fallen harbor
im not familiar with thwir models
steep gust
RX580 is fine for 1080p60hz
sour ivy
How much is the deal
fallen harbor
thw price even discounted will be probably too high for you because hashtag thirdworld but its originally 20.000 pesos (465usd) and its now 12.800 pesos (297usd)
steep gust
oof
fallen harbor
is it at least like current gen
because i might get it
my current gpu is a r9 380 4gb
if this one is significantly better then i might go for it i guess?
steep gust
polaris is like 3 years old
fallen harbor
i would look for benchmark videos but im at work
and idk when this sale is going to end
mfw the title says “ideal for fortnite”
im tired of this world
of its people
supple bane
@steep gust 60hz 
my 1060 3gb gets 1080p 75hz in everything. On most games but not all It will almost get 120hz
storm osprey
have to know the prices of all other products for your region to say if its a good deal there
steep gust
people hating on fortnite is more annoying than fortnite
fallen harbor
well a 1660ti for instance is 420 usd
storm osprey
why are you defending fortnite? do you love it? why dont you marry it?
supple bane
oof
steep gust
Fortnite is popular
Its cool to hate the popular stuff
Its also annoying
That your best argument for hating fortnite is that its popular and little kids like it
storm osprey
@fallen harbor so outside of the sale the 1660ti is actually cheaper than the rx580?
fallen harbor
rtx 2060 is around 580usd
supple bane
I really pissed me off when fortnite copies apex with the whole respawn thing
fallen harbor
yes
storm osprey
what are 1060 selling for there?
steep gust
and fun fact, people have been asking for a respawn feature since day 1 of BR games existing
latent light
RX 580 is 50% faster than R9 380
steep gust
give or take
fallen harbor
wait nvm this sale is a scam the average price is already around 290nvm guys sorry
supple bane
rx 580 is 100% best budget card atm, I don’t even own it and I’m a fanboi of it
latent light
RX 570 is better value than 580
storm osprey
i love those "its on sale" for normal price scenarios
steep gust
RX580 4GB > 8GB for gaming / budget
steep gust
insane import taxes?
fallen harbor
get me out of this third world piece of crap
let me in your juiciy first world paradice
supple bane
it’s like 50 pound for me to ship across the pond
fallen harbor
LET-ME-IN,png
latent light
RX 570 is 1st place for best price/performance, Vega 56 is 2nd
steep gust
50?
supple bane
ye
steep gust
Shipping a GPU is $30
They fit into a USPS postal box
obviously you then lose the OG box
but uh
price to pay if dealing with insane prices
supple bane
I can’t back myself up atm but I ensure you, it’s 50 pound
latent light
if you live in south america and get a DOA, you're fucked from what I've heard
supple bane
maybe if you get it off amazon, they seem really good around warranty
I’m not sure how it is over there tho
latent light
amazon warranty will be over by the time he gets the GPU
latent light
amazon and newegg provide a free month warranty on most of everything
steep gust
RAM has lifetime warranties
Amazon / Newegg offer 30 day returns / replacements
cus the law
latent light
ye
steep gust
Not because they want to
storm osprey
i fought the law
latent light
supple bane
ok rebel
steep gust
After 30 days they tell you to go to the manufacturer in most states
supple bane
I contacted both Corsair and amazon when I wanted my replacement, Amazon’s CS is so much better than corsairs
when I messaged Corsair, they just gave me a ticket number and nothing else
Amazon sorted it within minutes
sour ivy
I am the law
steep gust
Corshit
latent light
gigabyte wouldn't accept my RX 580 rma
unless I shipped them my whole PC because they wanted to troubleshoot it
supple bane
Shipping your pc is Litterally more Risky than eating at White Castle
I don’t even live in the states and Ik about White Castle and this tummy disasters 
sour ivy
Worth it to re apply thermal paste when I get my 1080?
storm osprey
i wish the minimalist tubing carried over to the rest of the build
steep gust
@sour ivy I dropped like 5C on my 1080
but I went from stock paste to kryonaut
so generic stuff to one of the best
sour ivy
I’m putting on noctua so hopefully it’s decent probably worth it
violet plank
guess it's cheaper that way
molten bramble
@supple bane Agreed. That bottom of the case looks like someone folded a piece of paper underneath it and tucked it in.
supple bane
figured out my hotel has computers that are free to use. of course, being the nerd i am, i logged into discord on it and checked all its specs 
its a fairly modern AIO from acer
oof
thats the cpu in this thing
thinking out it, why am i checking the specs of a public pc in a hotel
im such a weirdo 
forest token
I spent about 5 hours trying to remove adobe flash from a fresh windows 10 ltsc install 
mild bough
@copper ruin Do you think I should save up for the "MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO" ? You said I should buy a RTX 2070 Super so I found this one.
winged tapir
Super 
forest token
I've had good experiences with msi, evga not so much; I had a msi gts 250, msi gtx 650 ti boost and now a msi gtx 1070 ti, I had an evga 1060 and it had a a problem with the fans going full speed if the fan wires touched something, and I had a asus (maybe) 1070 ti that I returned because of horrible coil whine
cursive marten
Again, the wrong channel.
copper ruin
mild bough
i was gonna tag nyphon haha
pallid silo
Trying to install windows 10 and its been stuck on 93% for an hour...
calm trench
yo
storm osprey
@copper ruin uhhhh... this is awkward
storm osprey
@mild bough depends on the price, but i would go for a cheaper dual fan 2070 super, thats assuming its more expensive because of the triple fan design, msi gpus are good though afaik, and triple fan will provide better cooling/acoustics
mild bough
It costs around 660 dollars
wheat cape
storm osprey
considering you can get a triple fan from gigabyte for 500...
if you dont like gigabyte you can get any other brand with a dual fan for under 550
i wouldnt spend more than 550 on a 2070 super personally
prime jasper
5700xt is the budget king
storm osprey
yea, they seem set on spending 600+ on a gpu though
mild bough
i am norway
storm osprey
ugh
imo, find the cheapest 2070 super you can get, and dont spend more than 50 dollars above that price
mild bough
for me?
storm osprey
generally speaking, youre not gonna see much performance gains getting higher tier cards within the same model
mild bough
ah ok
storm osprey
but in the end, its your money and if you want to drop more for a better/cooler gpu its up to you
storm osprey
a 2070 super from the cheapest to the most expensive model would vary fps by maybe 10 fps if i had to guess
storm osprey
depends on resolution
and game, and game settings
at 1440p i get at least 100 fps in bfv with a 4790 and a 1080
storm osprey
youll destroy 1080p gaming with a 2070 super
unless you have a 240hz monitor a 2070 super is basically a waste of money for your monitor, even at 144hz
mild bough
so i need to buy a new monitor aswell?
mild bough
it is to good?
storm osprey
way too good
storm osprey
uhhh depends on game and game settings
the problem is even if you are pushing 1000 fps on every game you are limited by your monitor
steep gust
Most games have engine caps at like 200fps
The 2070S / 8700k is not gonna be some godlike experience in 1080p
Some games just run like shit (BFV) on everything
storm osprey
pretty sure a 2070 super and 8700k at 1080p is gonna be getting more than 100 fps on ultra
mild bough
thats a good thing right?
thats hella good, but can i have resolution scale on 200% then?
storm osprey
resolution scale over 100% is pretty meaningless
storm osprey
youre monitor resolution is still what it is
it might clean up certain areas, but the performance cost to fps and the clarity you get from it arent worth it imo
mild bough
oh
then it is decided, i am gonna save up for a 2070 RTX super
This GPU card is about a 100 bucks cheaper, but is it good tho? ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
storm osprey
as long as its a dual fan it should be good, although ive never gotten a zotac card and idk many people that do, the few times i have heard of someone getting a zotac card they didnt say it had any problems
most people get msi, evga, or asus cards
mild bough
It has gotten a dual fan, but the MSI I found has gotten three. So the more fans i have the more fps i get?
storm osprey
possibly, depends on a lot of factors, but most cards will scale up with better cooling
the different in fps should be minimal though
i can say that spending 100 more would not be worth the fps gain
mild bough
oh, so the zotac one should be good?
it has gotten 24 month guarantee so i can just turn it in if it blows up or something
steep gust
Zotac SUPER cards are fine
storm osprey
according to this video the founders edition card vs msi x trio is usually within 5 fps of eachother
for a price hike of 100 bucks thats not worth it on a logical standpoint
mild bough
yeah
I will go for the Zotac Super 2070 I think. I have to check the compability first
prime jasper
that 5700xt is impressive
storm osprey
kinda sucks i got a gsync monitor
prime jasper
yeah but at least you can get a cheaper freesync next time
storm osprey
i dont think ill be buying a monitor anytime soon
prime jasper
lolpoor
storm osprey
i got a 1440p 144hz gsync monitor, what would i upgrade to?
storm osprey
ew 4k
steep gust
3440x1440 200hz
supple bane
@storm osprey some of Those cards were run on dx 12 when they should be in dx 11 , so some might get more FPS than that
steep gust
get with the times of not enough displayport bandwidth
supple bane
the 1060 is one of them
prime jasper
the only consistency Ive seen with dx12 is that Ryzen works better with it
supple bane
I lose about 30-40fps when I go dx 12
storm osprey
i play pretty competitively, the only thing i would consider is a 240hz monitor of some sorts, but im not dropping to 1080p and idk many 1440p 240hz monitors
supple bane
I’m not saying a 1060 would get 80 FPS in 1440p, Ik it won’t, but I do know it will be more than that
mild bough
lol i have a 60hz monitor
supple bane
Oof
mild bough
ikr
supple bane
I have 75hz
mild bough
i want 244
supple bane
so I’m no better really
storm osprey
and granty, the point of those benchmarks were only to show the difference between an expensive 2070s and a cheap one
supple bane
why tho
mild bough
its much more smooth
steep gust
Also min / avg FPS is not enough
supple bane
you do realise once you go past like 150 hz you can’t really see the difference
supple bane
Really ?
steep gust
Its just not as noticeable as 60hz to 144hz
supple bane
I would argue against that
steep gust
60hz to 144hz is massive
supple bane
I agree
mild bough
where i live a 244hz monitor costs like 200 dolalrs
supple bane
Personally i think if you were given a 144 all covered up so you can’t see the bezels or anything and a 240, you won’t see the difference
mild bough
dollars*
storm osprey
i think you wont notice the difference until you went from 240 down to 144
supple bane
I have had this monitor since I first got into pc gaming, and I could decide between mine and an omen 144hz for around the same price but I didn’t know what he was and what it meant back then
So I got mine as it looked better 
and now I look back and call myself and idiot
cunning junco
Anyone know how to fix a cracked ISP display
supple bane
you can’t fix it
You need to buy a new display and replace yours
Which is very risky
cunning junco
Where can I find a replace ment, I've looked everywhere
steep gust
You mean a monitor panel?
supple bane
you have to buy the EXACT same model display as yours off some dodgy seller on the internet and then hope it’s the right one pray it works then plead you do it right
cunning junco
The front piece
steep gust
Take the frame off your monitor, find the panel
supple bane
You google what display it your monitor has
cunning junco
I took the sides off, but the bottom piece is stopping it from coming out
steep gust
Hope you don't break the TCON, or anything really expensive while swapping them
prime jasper
then you can enjoy Chairman Mao laughing at your noobness with the nice little backdoor
cunning junco
Btw the monitor is the hp 22fw
supple bane
tbh
steep gust
I mean its a monitor panel
supple bane
Just buy a new monitor
steep gust
Can't install a backdoor on something that only takes inputs
supple bane
it would be less risk and less hassle
supple bane
ye
cunning junco
I can't afford a new one
supple bane
the frame and io is most likely about 40 bucks
steep gust
IIRC the TCON and display are the expensive parts
cunning junco
What is the iirc and tcon?
cunning junco
I'm pretty sure the only thing I broke was the front panel
If I look inside down into it, all is see is a crack
steep gust
Sometimes the TCON and panel are attached, but not always
cunning junco
I can use the monitor, it still displays my pc, but it just has coloured lines
supple bane
also if you don’t know, the timing controller is just a processor that takes the digital display signal and turns it into What colours should display on what pixel iirc
steep gust
which is a lot harder than you think
cunning junco
I would send a pic but I don't have permissions
prime jasper
you probably shouldnt throw your mouse at the screen
cunning junco
I didn't lol
steep gust
activate windows
cunning junco
I'm not joking, I tapped it
steep gust
I mean its a pretty standard watermark
and you would have had to tap it really hard
considering I'm dropped my monitor before and its fine
mild bough
it is cut in half
cunning junco
I got the front piece off and in fro t of me is, 4 flat strips that look important
mild bough
i would just buy a new monitor
cunning junco
Can I at least sell parts for money?
prime jasper
wouldnt be much
cunning junco
Any money is good
steep gust
no
You might be able to sell the entire motherboard for scrap on ebay
but i wouldn't expect much
cunning junco
The thing is, I can take it apart because the display won't come off and there's no screws so idk
mild bough
it looks like a 100 year old vape
sour ivy
Juul should collab with Corsair
pallid silo
Anyone know what vega64 + 3700x 1080p high performance is like on bf5
*high settings
latent light
120+ fps on high
pallid silo
Damn that's insane! :D thanks man
Cant find any benchmarks out there only ultra xd
Also with vega 64 3700x should I use dx11 or 12? (Bf1 and bf5)
pallid silo
Will I get more stable fps? :) I know my old ryzen 7 1700 liked dx11 more
prime jasper
bf v isnt what you anyone would call a 'stable' game
sour ivy
Just try both
prime jasper
its just weird
pallid silo
Gotta reinstall windows 10 soon :) switching my gaming pc from Intel to AMD :p (I always reinstall windows when changing motherboards) anyone know the best way to format the drives when installing windows? :)
And that's very true!! :DD but very hard to benchmark bf5 :P
latent light
fps drops in BFV are due to poor CPU optimization
prime jasper
the drive will format over on a clean windows install anyway
sour ivy
To be honest I should reinstall windows too
prime jasper
yes
pallid silo
Oh wow! :P awesome! :DD
sour ivy
But I’m #lazy
prime jasper
if you just want to 'refresh' the install you can just reset Windows 10 and it'll go back to its default state with all your shit gone
pallid silo
I dont like that because it takes at least an hour :p
The usb takes 5 mins
Plus that way I know EVERYTHING is deleted as the refresh thing keeps windows.old
shut comet
is it normal for bf4 to run significantly worse than bf1?
steep gust
no
shut comet
is bf4 really singlethreaded?
steep gust
@shut comet Its mostly single core performance, yes
shut comet
Is is known for running bad on ryzen?
latent light
no
shut comet
Because on BF1 ultra I get 90+fps but BF4 ultra I get a stuttery 50
Let me check what's limiting it
Ok nvm it's the gpu
That's 99%ing
steep gust
You always have a bottleneck
Although one time I forgot to plug my GPU fans back in
Still got like 100fps in BF4 while it throttled to hell
Every couple of minutes I'd dropped to 30fps as my GPU truly thermal throttled
shut comet
Though I'd expect bf1 to be more demanding
pallid silo
@steep gust omg no gpu fans xD silent tho ;)
steep gust
1080 strix
pallid silo
Ah nice man! :) used to have a 1080 :p my vega 64 is silent up until 40/50 ish
Triple fan too xd
coral birch
How much better does bf4 run compared to bf1
Is there a big difference in optimization
prime jasper
it would run better on old hardware yes
long sphinx
bf4 is pretty similar in both gpu use and cpu use to bf3 around 50% 50% with vsync
bf1 uses every ounce of my pc around 98% avg
@60
prime jasper
help to actually have the budget for it lol
hoary ember
News say intel is going to release 56c xeon in 2020
steep gust
Its a soldered to a motherboard CPU
LGA 4189 is suppose to have a 56c LGA CPU
but its not out
crude storm
the vega56 is selling for 210 € in germany, woudlnt that be the better deal?
latent light
well how much is the 590 in germany
but yeah a Vega 56 for only 210 is crazy good
just hope it isn't the gigabyte vega 56
this one is a nightmare
crude storm
the sapphire pulse vega 56 was on sell for 210 € + shipping, its gone up to 250 € now
the pulse 590 is around 220 € in germany now
all incl taxes
grml, my sapphire nitro + vega 64 dropped from 599 € in January to 349 € now ....
latent light
250 for sapphire pulse vega 56 is still great
I adore the backplate design of the pulse
crude storm
one thing is pissing me of about sapphire
they released 2 versions of the vega 64 nitro +
a normal and an limited edition
almost everyone of the yt got the LE to test
and somehow the le couldnt be purchased in germany and you only get the normal version
while you always landup on the le edition on the sapphire homepage
oh, they redone their homepage
boreal light
idk
mild bough
lol
violet plank
google moving to amd (again)
lmao,you know where that pic was taken @latent light ?
rigid knoll
Mikail, if you're asking seriously, gpu is one of the easiest parts to install
mild bough
i am serious, i am not good with my hands
when we were going to make a butter knife in school, mine was just as small as a match
rigid knoll
Just be really aware of its weight. Drop it and you'll likely break something. I guess the difficulty can come from having to be really aware that everything fits correctly, and not forcing anything into its place (too much anyways)
Youtube proably has tons of videos on how to do it. Don't do anything stupid, and be extra careful. Maybe I've lost my perspective on what can be difficult/puzzling if you haven't done anything like that before.
@mild bough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkrPxUXRbV0
mild bough
Ok thanks man
prime jasper
look at the power draw requirement of the GPU and compare to your PSU
mild bough
and what is psu?
mild bough
2070 RTX super
steep gust
Then check your PSU
There will be a label on the side
If you are using a prebuilt, its probably some random OEM PSU
mild bough
well
I have no idea what that is, so I will try ask the guys that put my pc together
thanks anyway 😄
wait, so i compare the input voltage on the PSU?
steep gust
Send a picture of the label with a bunch of numbers on the PSU
Just because it has enough rated wattage doesn't mean it can actually do that
storm osprey
@mild bough something ive had someone not do was to take off the pcie sleeve from the gpu, dont forget to do that
mild bough
i cant find the psu so i leave it to the pros
steep gust
How
Its literally a metal box with a bunch of cables coming out of it
Should be similar to that if its an OEM build
vocal vapor
So i bought this monitor its bound to arrive tomorrow some people say that its waste of money but the specs for its price are great considering that the x27 and 27uq cost over 2000€ it has HDR400 but still . and my pc can push the framerate up to 120hz ultra or in competitive titles to 144hz (Whats ur opinion id like to know??) https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/18561/mfbgn/Predator-XB273KP-27-naytto
steep gust
@vocal vapor What GPU?
Its an okay monitor in terms of colors, etc
a single 2080ti should be fine in most titles if you drop settings
vocal vapor
@steep gust i have 2x Msi gaming x trio 2080 in nvlink and an i9-9900k
supple bane
what are you trying to run ? Like resolution and FPS ?
With that setup you could get 4K 80fps in all games period
you won’t be able to use that monitor fully tho, there is no way you can push 120 FPS at 4K
vocal vapor
i do get 120fps in ultra bf4, sottr, bf1, bfv, etc. not all the time but most of the time bf4 and bf1 are an exeption tho they run 120 - 200 fps
so ill get the full experience with the monitor
only those games that dont have sli i wont get over 60 in ultra but all the games that support it or fixable its easy 80 - 160 fps (depending on the scene)
supple bane
is this 4K ?
Ik that a 2080ti struggles for 70 FPS in 4k. So I wouldn’t think 2x 2080 would get 120, but if you say it does
cursive marten
i don't think SLI works like that
cursive marten
yeah it doesn't
vocal vapor
no but nvlink has around 80 to 90% scaling
of course the sli scaling is not that good in 1440p or 1080p but in 4k its amazinf for the nvlink
and im native 4k user
steep gust
@vocal vapor NVLink is a glorified SLI bridge, you might get 50% scaling in good titles
I would sell both 2080 and pick up a 2080ti
You can spend some time fucking around with SLI profiles to try to fix the scaling
But it's still bad, and still has bad stuttering
vocal vapor
@steep gust i just dont understand why everybody keep saying it doesent work i havent had a single problem with sli yet maybe in the future but not yet and the scaling is awesome for me ????? and i havent had eny stutter neither ?
i enabled the sli indicator as well at some point and it showed me 80% scaling ??
steep gust
Do you only play like BFV?
steep gust
Try a game that is a few years old
and yeah SLI has garbage scaling the indicator isn't exactly great
vocal vapor
like bf4?? couse fps there is over 144 in sli and without 90
steep gust
yeah so that's like 50% scaling, and that's a big name triple A game
vocal vapor
but id still rather get that 144 than 90
steep gust
SLI has never been worth going for over the flagship GPU
I would rather use a 2080ti and save myself $500
That's the issue with SLI
vocal vapor
no but 1 2080ti in my country is more than 2 2080 and i got the other 2080 for free
steep gust
yeah well that normally doesn't happen
like here a 2080 is like $700 vs $1100 for a 2080ti
vocal vapor
but eaven without getting the other for free it would of been more money and less preformance (2080ti)
but most games i play are new and support sli well like sottr
or bfv if done right
violet plank
intel will bring a board with 4x 56 cores,including it's own nuclear power plant
mild bough
i have 550 watt on my pc, and the gpu i want required 650.. how do i increase my watt
supple bane
what sort of gpu is that
I I’m 500% sure your gpu doesn’t consume 650 watts lol
imagine the cooler needed for that bitch
also if you want more wattage you need a better psu
supple bane
I didn’t call you a bitch 
mild bough
oh nvm i understood it now lol, pardon
ahha, but i want the rtx 2070 super. What is the watt needed for that?
supple bane
About 150-200
mild bough
so i have 550 watt, that should work?
supple bane
depends on the other components
because you need to take the sum of all the consumption of all the components
mild bough
or should i buy 650 so i dont get low frames?
supple bane
I would say it depends on other specs really
But considering it’s a prebuilt with a 550 watt psu
It most likely will be fine
supple bane
ye that’s fine
mild bough
oh ok
supple bane
didn’t you say it was a pre built
storm osprey
do you have a ssd?
latent light
yeah probably has a regular HDD
mild bough
whats that?
latent light
faster storage
HDD takes about 1-2 minutes to boot into windows
SSD takes ~10 seconds
supple bane
I think a minute is an overstatement never mind 2
40 seconds is more appropriate
in other news, have yall seen how the computers worked in Saturn V ?
the memory was small iron rings on a copper net which was all hand woven, then he rings could be charged in two different ways, one being a 1 and the other being a 0
So each ring was the equivalent as a bit
and the cooling was insane, it worked by taking the heat from the computer just like water cooling would, but instead of a radiator, it’s a chunk of metal that has microscopic pores that allow the water to pass through, as it gets close to the vacuum of space it freezes and then it sublimates and that dissipates the energy
it can dissipate 9k watts 
mild bough
my pc proba takes about 5 mins to get in good shape
imagine gaming on that @supple bane
mild bough
is 110kb much?
supple bane
70’s
latent light
1,024 KB in a MB
mild bough
hahhap
How do i unlock cosmetics? I just play and all the sudden I got new cosmetics, I have no idea how..
pallid silo
What's the best way to delete all files from SSD to prepare for windows 10 install from usb?
prime jasper
you just format it from the installer lol
pallid silo
@prime jasper does this delete all the files? Like nothing left behind
prime jasper
yes
mild bough
it is good to do total reboot every once in a while, so you dont have so many junk files
prime jasper
it helps clear up the RAM/cache yes
steep gust
Windows doesn't like to randomly sit open for like a week
supple bane
what would happen if you did that tho ?
prime jasper
well updates would never get installed for one
pallid silo
@mild bough reboot or reinstall? :)
Just googled about how long an SSD lasts for there wasn't an answer really xd
But they said use hwinfo as there is a drive life bit
mild bough
that thing so you delete all your stuff, like files, games and everything
@pallid silo
pallid silo
@mild bough reinstall weekly jesus thays a lot!
prime jasper
reinstall? bro he said restart
pallid silo
"that thing so you delete all your stuff, like files, games and everything"
prime jasper
wtf
kindred knot
Shear pin and dragging your teammate is gone.
steep gust
F
rare cipher
latent light
PS4 has a blower fan
my PS4 fan got louder than any blower style GPU I've witnessed
lofty light
Imagine ever using a blower fan tbh
If you get a blower fan GPU, spend a little more and get a water cooler on it
red trellis
hello i buy the g432 , and i hear more loud the sounds of the back when i playing, and less loud the sounds of front, i think the enemy is in front but is in the back , what i can do is usb
latent light
tbh, only GPUs that should have blower fans are 75w cards
1650 with blower fan would be cool
pallid silo
Building a new pc today for a friend
Will i need antivirus?
Apart from windows defender
And ublock origin
pallid silo
Ahh okay that's fair enough!! :P how comes everyone is still paying for bitdefefender avg Norton all of those
Seen on reddit people say about zero day viruses and they are sometimes in updates for programs you hse
Use
mild bough
I would recommend buying Norton for safety
It is always good to have just in case @pallid silo
Like, you can get virus attacks if you just watch a movie which have free movies. Or download a mod for a game, so I would say the chances are pretty high..
supple bane
@mild bough you won’t get a virus from a well known place, the only time you can get viruses is if you go on some dodgy website to download the mods etc. Also, viruses can’t just magically appear on your pc Yanno, you have to actually click download! so you have to be really stupid to get a virus as you fall for them dumb pop ups that ask you to download something
It’s also so easy to deal with most viruses it just isn’t worth it
pallid silo
@supple bane so the only websites I visit is known sources like AMD.com for drivers and steam and stuff like that when I first get my pc then general use I go onto twitch YouTube Netflix and sometimes reddit would it be okay just to use windows defender
supple bane
perfectly fine
like I said
To get a virus you have to fall for a pop up
like the ones where it says “YOU ARE INFECTED WIH A VIRUS! CLICK HERE TO UNINSTALL IT!!”
If you click you get the virus
so that’s what I mean, just alt f4 and move on with life
Actually, I have been on YouTube to mp3 pages that are constantly giving virus pop ups, they are hyper dodgy, but as long as you don’t click anything, it’s fine
pallid silo
Ahhh okay thays fair enough!! :DD I've never seen those before xd as if i wanna go on a weird website I use my phone :)
I use 4k download for my mp3s
A lot of people on reddit (posts are from about a year ago) are saying WD is bad haha
People say about malwarebytes but when ever I've had that installed it always gives false positives about my steam games lol
mild bough
Well dont blame me if your balance says -99999 $ lol
but i feel that having norton always is a little more safe
in my country, there are like super bad ads where it says something with dating app. And there is mis spelling in every sentence ahahah
pallid silo
Get ublock origin and privacy badger and https... @mild bough
supple bane
@mild bough I have been using a pc for about 5 years give or take without anti virus and I haven’t had a single problem because I’m not stupid and I don’t fall for silly pop ups
pop ups are in fact safe if you just close them
like I said, a virus CANNOY just install itself YOU have to click install, so if you don’t do that, your fine
pallid silo
@supple bane you have had WD tho :p that's an anti virus you mean a third party antivirus?
supple bane
ye I mean third party
pallid silo
Just found this on reddit
If you limit your browsing activity to safe, secure space, and limited counts of site ~ like you only use browser for facebook, twitter, netflix, youtube, or other major site ~ the you're ok.
If you don't... Do you think you have "enough" common sense?
So basically only go on a few websites on my gaming pc and if I wanna go on something weird go onto my linux laptop?
mild bough
i give up, but i just like the feel of extra security. And that is my opinion
primal geyser
Windows Defender is more than enough for me.
supple bane
I’m not saying it isn’t good having the extra protection
It’s just not worth the price
prime jasper
plenty of decent free options
mild bough
yeah especially the free ones where you get 10 million in start bonus
prime jasper
mild bough
it was bad joke
violet plank
finally found some 3600 16 gig sticks,not on any qvl at all,this will be fun
prime jasper
on today's episode of 'questionable decisions'
sour ivy
Is 75 c too hot for my gpu under load?
pallid silo
@sour ivy what fan speed? But no
violet plank
if it were too hot it would clock down,but 75 is normal under full load with air cooling
sour ivy
Alright
steep gust
@violet plank What timings?
If its dual rank CJR, from what I understand you will struggle to run anymore than XMP
prime jasper
@shut comet consult your motherboard QVL list
supple bane
@shut comet 2666-3200 is the sweet spot for zen+, but like killa Said, check what your motherboard supports
also since when has ram caused usb disconnects ?
steep gust
QVL is a bunch of garbage
RAM doesn't impact USB
You don't need to buy the exact kit on your QVL
If there is a single rank B-Die kit binned to 3200cl14 using an A2 PCB, almost every kit using that IC / PCB will work just fine
mild bough
I know this sounds weird but, can I just put a regular fan in a PC. Like the ones you have on a desk or something.
prime jasper
@steep gust thats a bunch of gibberish to the average gamer looking for RAM
the QVL is what just werks ™
supple bane
@mild bough you are taking the piss. Right?
mild bough
I wouldnt do it, but does it work?
shut comet
@supple bane idk why but it does
modifying the timings and speed does make the problem better/worse
supple bane
I think that’s just a. Coincidence
shut comet
i confirmed its not the mobo as i bought a new one with a different chipset and i still have the same problem
shut comet
plut it happens on both back and front ports
supple bane
Have you tried a different device ?
supple bane
it’s defiantly not ram I can tell you that
pallid silo
I use 3000mhz for 3700x and it works well!
shut comet
i read this and it kinda makes me think it is https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6m3kt5/if_youre_getting_random_usb_disconnects_on_ryzen/
supple bane
I can’t open it rn
but I’m almost certain that ram doesn’t have anything to do with usb
shut comet
i have no idea what could be causing it then
prime jasper
Ive never had issues with it
theres no reason it wouldnt unless you dont keep your BIOS up to date
violet plank
@steep gust
not sure,some say it uses b-die samsung
only 3600 16 gig stick available here for weeks..
as-site says either samsung b-die or hynix-c,weird,sames sku
asrock
pallid silo
When you install AMD drivers is it normal for firefox to load up and say "you have successfully installed your drivers"?
violet plank
not really,maybe with a dedicated installation cd/dvd ?
and does it load an online site or just an offline page using the browser to display it
i don't use FF,just guesses
pallid silo
@violet plank not too sure :p I restarted after :) I just installed windows so this is a brand new install of radeon
violet plank
if you do an auto install it's normal i guess
violet plank
yeah,curious if i can tweak the timings further
steep gust
I have my CJR at 15-19-19-38 3600
violet plank
nice
steep gust
and they aren't the best sticks
violet plank
well first i have to assemble the case for the invert build,will take a lot of time
violet plank
well more than 3733 is usless for that kit anyways
gonna try shorter timings on 3600
steep gust
I'm way too lazy to test 3733 tight vs 3600 tight
Since it takes awhile to get the subtimings tweaked
violet plank
not really worth it imo
steep gust
on paper 3733 > 3600
violet plank
you get maybe 1/2 fps more
pallid silo
@violet plank went for vega64
violet plank
even then,difference should be minimal
i wouldn't care too much if i encode a movie in 30 min or 29min and 30 sec
well i would if i do it all the time
like batches of encoding
but on the other hand,i might have bought other ram for that
violet plank
true
but still,there are no other 3600 16gig sticks available here,tired of waiting lol
cl 17
same with 16
not even cl18
steep gust
oof
violet plank
dunno why it is so hard to get 16 gig sticks
maybe to much demand on the server market
g.skil neo,paper launch...
wonder if they ever hit the shelf
violet plank
like intel
sour ivy
Intelligence
steep gust
I do want to see what Intel has in store
A 10c would be insane at 3D stuff
The 6950x was also the last 10c ringbus and there have been a lot of improvements
sour ivy
I’m only getting 80 FPS in Bfv still with the 1080 😦
steep gust
Fix your anti aliasing
steep gust
I get >120fps on a 1080
sour ivy
What’s your cpu
steep gust
Memory?
sour ivy
16gb ddr4
steep gust
BFV hates when I run slow memory
steep gust
But I haven't played bfv in months
sour ivy
I’m thinking of buying a liquid cooler so I can actually overclock my cpu
steep gust
And from what I understand performance has gone down
sour ivy
Would that be a good investment?
sour ivy
I have the stock cooler rn
steep gust
I would only go with an AIO if you want that look
And go with a 240mm, 120mm isnt worth the cost
violet plank
bfv performance has gone down no matter what hardware
it ran like 100% better on release lol
sour ivy
Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240E RGB All-in-one CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump Latest Intel/AMD Support (MLA-D24M-A18PC-R1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CRGC899/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_trAtDb1PEQZXR
Is that good?
I’d rather have it look good because soon I’m gonna invest in how my pc looks
steep gust
That's not a terrible price
It's not gonna be the best AIO
But better than the stock heatsink
sour ivy
Are they hard to set up and maintain?
prime jasper
well you need to make sure your case supports a 240mm radiator first