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swift eagle
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i got it for free so why not

prime jasper
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lol

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you can play battlefield with 90-100 fps with a i5 7400 and gtx 1060

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yes, that is above minimum spec so not surprising

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i use to play with 50 - 60

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but then

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I found the right settings

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and it increased fps so much

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my friend got 80 fps and now he gets 170 with the settings too

swift eagle
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you know i5 3570 and i5 7400

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then 1050 and 1060

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its a bit different

prime jasper
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how come every time I log into battlefield
i have to do the prologue all over again
and
my settings reset

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i had this problem for a while but I ignored and i wanna fix it now

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clear Origins cache, then try reinstalling if that doesnt fix it

swift eagle
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well

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i got this that rx 5700 xt and ryzen 5 3600 will perform 2 times better in 1440p on ultra than my setup now

prime jasper
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its gonna be a little more than 2x if youre at 20-30 tops lol

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I hope you got a partner card though, those blower fans suck on the 5700

swift eagle
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case i want to get have 4 fans so i dont think temps will be problem anymore

steep gust
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uh the stock heatsink for the 5700xt is garbage

latent light
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yeah don't buy the 5700XT yet

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wait next month

swift eagle
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maybe those partner will be cheaper

latent light
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doubt

swift eagle
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and will not be hitted with baseball

latent light
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a normal 2 fan heatsink will probably be same price as reference

steep gust
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The blowers are garbage

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even if you have to pay more

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not worth it

latent light
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aftermarket coolers will show higher speeds anyway

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people putting R7 and R9 coolers on the 5700XT and it sees higher performance even without overclocking

steep gust
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because it turbos higher

swift eagle
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so if one with blower is between rtx 2070 and 2070 super

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the partner ones can be like 2070 super?

steep gust
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probably?

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the card overclocks well

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outside of the blower

latent light
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my RX 580 does 75C at 60% fan speed at stock frequency

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undervolting by -100mV decreased fan speed by 8% and gave me roughly 1-2% higher performance

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still hitting 75C though, which is the target temperature in Wattman

swift eagle
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same temps

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100% fan speed

molten bramble
latent light
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my RX 580 is now only doing 70C at 50% fan speed

steep gust
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my 1080 does like sub 60C at 50% fan speed WoahHappy

latent light
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I've got dual fan

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I went from 75C at 60% fan to 70C at 50% fan

coarse nimbus
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just put a bag of ice on it WeSmart

molten bramble
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My level of curiosity about yesterday's horrendous timing debacle has risen... why W10 decided to trip balls about a 1T from 2T movement has me scratching my head. The kernel shouldn't have panicked like that.

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Nor panicked as many times as it did.

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I can only surmise that something was resident in memory at the time and was corrupted on restart.

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Which could be the reason why one of the errors was PFN-related.

fervent yacht
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Does anyone know if the ps4 has weekly updates because everytime I try to log on and play bf5 there is an update

molten bramble
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#game-news Will note updates for platform specific to the game.

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If there are other updates, such as the gaming platform one, we don't track those.

lofty light
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@fervent yacht is it a UI update or a major patch?

untold sluice
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My PC is kind of out of date with i5-3570, 8GB of DDR3 and 660TI, would replacing 660TI with 1050TI give a decent bump in performance?

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Basically, $180 upgrade

lofty light
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You would see better perf with the GPU but your CPU is pretty low for BFV

untold sluice
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Yes I play with 1280x800 with everything off, and it is rough to play

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If 1050 would let me play with 100 FPS with everything on low in 1280x800, I would be really happy

latent light
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still a CPU bottleneck

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BFV really needs either 6 cores or 8 threads to be somewhat smooth

untold sluice
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Ahh I see

latent light
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even 4 core CPUs like the 7600K and 8350K at 5 GHz will still stutter quite a bit

lofty light
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8350K is still dual core

latent light
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nah it's a quad core

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8th gen saw higher core counts across all platforms

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Pentium stayed as a dual core but it gained hyper threading

lofty light
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Oh, I was sure it was a dual with hyper. Must've been thinking of the 7350k

steep gust
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7350k is neat just because its the best dual core

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8350k is garbage because it has no HT to beat the 7700k

latent light
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I'd buy a 8350K if it was $100

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but $150 nah

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would get a 2600 over it

lofty light
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Oh god notlikesteve

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I wonder if GN will mention it at all

supple bane
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me new case, cooler and fans are coming tomorrow blobfingerguns

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i am the big excite

violet plank
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ffs gskill,release those neo ram already NotLikeThis

sour ivy
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We're sorry your package is late
We're working to get your package back on track, and we'll let you know when your package is out for delivery.
Please come back Saturday if you still don't have it and we'll help you out.
Was expected Wednesday, July 24

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:/

quartz isle
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Hello, when i launch the game in origin nothing happends, no error message or anything

prime jasper
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restart, try again

quartz isle
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i'm on it since few hours i've done that 30 times already ^^

sour ivy
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Nvm it’s out for delivery today

supple bane
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@quartz isle that happens to me when I haven’t installed the update, and considering there was a patch today. You might wanna make sure that it is downloaded, maybe try checking for updates

quartz isle
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i did an update of 5 gb

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and it says updated, ready to play

violet plank
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try a repair

steep gust
prime jasper
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what the absolute hell

violet plank
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userfakemark haHAA

steep gust
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Somehow a 8700k and a 9600k are equal

swift eagle
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this site is scam this i3-9350kf is better in benchmark than i9-9940X XD

supple bane
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well it used to be somewhat good

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but they changed something and ruined it

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it wasnt 100% accurate by all means. but it gave you some rough ideas on what a cpu performs like

steep gust
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Better off using 3D Mark, etc

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Which was always a better choice

latent light
supple bane
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i think my emojis are broke

violet plank
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they changed some algorthym for single thread performance and screwed up the whole shit iirc

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before it was in some cases a useful site if you used your brain with it haHAA

supple bane
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my main use was when people were having issues with there fps in games, and i didnt know what their cpu was, i would get a rough estimation on how it would perform in games which in turn helps diagnose

sour ivy
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My new ram came but I’m still at work :/

prime jasper
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lets hope one of us doesnt stop by to test your RAM for you :^)

sour ivy
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Come thru

steep gust
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@violet plank multicore got swapped to 2% weight and quad core is super high

So Skylake quad cores look fucking insane compared to Ryzen

swift eagle
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Ryzen is future of games because new consoles will have more threads and game are made for consoles mostly sooo

storm osprey
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iirc this and last gen cpus had high core counts and low speeds already

swift eagle
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btw i did some more overclock to gpu

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mostly vram speed

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and now my game is playable

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still got stutters because of cpu but 30-50fps isnt that bad on 1080p

supple bane
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@swift eagle games are made on and for pc bud,

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they then have to be optimised to even run on a console

swift eagle
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but games are main to go to consoles

prime jasper
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console exclusives yes

supple bane
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but most games, 75% of the player base will be on pc

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thats why most of the time, games will launch first on pc

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so devs have more time to optimise for console

swift eagle
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battlefield actually work better with more cores/threads than higher speeds

swift eagle
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saw video where dude underclocked some i7 to and 1GHz and it worked almost same like with normal speeds

supple bane
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

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your point?

swift eagle
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that ryzen is good for games in long way

supple bane
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that isnt just on bf anyway, any game/application isnt speed dependent anymore tho

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but what does that have to do with a guy who underclocked his i7?

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im litterally next level confused

swift eagle
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that speeds doesnt matter much

storm osprey
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i think thats his point, we are moving to more core dependant than speed

supple bane
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oh

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yes

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i agree

storm osprey
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a point to consider to support that is that consoles are following that as well

swift eagle
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if you can get now 8c/16t cpu for 300$ now its good

steep gust
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@swift eagle Not really, BFV has a limitation on its scaling and runs like shit on low frequency stuff

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We are moving back into frequency

supple bane
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well i didnt know that tbf

steep gust
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It gets exponentially harder to make an application use more threads

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And most people still use 4c 4t stuff

swift eagle
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my i5 have same speeds like my old i3 but have 2 more cores and i can say it almost doubled fps

steep gust
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Yes well it's not that simple

supple bane
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it would help if you said the type of i5 too

swift eagle
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3570

steep gust
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8600k / 9600k

supple bane
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alot of i3's will out perform an i5

steep gust
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The only 6c i5

storm osprey
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i asssume 4c vs 6c

steep gust
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Yeah and a i3 7350k is better than a 3570

supple bane
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but those cores arent the only thing that would have boosted fps

steep gust
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DDR4

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Frequency

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IPC

supple bane
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you may have had better single core performace too

steep gust
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Probably more RAM overall

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Hell yeah skylake has better single core over uh

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That's Ivy right

swift eagle
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i think

steep gust
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Yeah ivy bridge

swift eagle
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it have boost but on my some very bad mobo it never hit max speeds

supple bane
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that isnt to do with the mobo either, that is most likely the cooler you hvae

swift eagle
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it can be

supple bane
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very unlikely.

swift eagle
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temps are 85-90 so yeah

supple bane
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well yes

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that is why it isnt getting to max boost

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not the mobo

swift eagle
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it stop on 3.6GHz on all cores

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sometimes even 3.7

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but i think i never saw 3.8

steep gust
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3.8 is the single core boost

supple bane
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my advertised boost is 3.9. and i have only ever seen it reach that once

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and it was for like a second

swift eagle
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i never saw 3.8 on even one core

quartz isle
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my game still doens't launch, anyone know how to fix ?

crude storm
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my game still does not update

crude storm
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327682:0 for f sake ...

violet plank
latent light
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I got my 1600 at 3.8 GHz all core with stock cooler

storm osprey
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IN texas

latent light
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supposed next gen consoles CPUs leaked

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Navi 10 lite, maybe won't even see RX 5700 performance on next gen

coarse nimbus
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you seem surprised consoles wont even have midrange performance GWlulurdMmmYea

storm osprey
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5700 isnt mid range performance anymore

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its mid range price

supple bane
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isn’t that aimed at 1440p ?

storm osprey
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but performance of these cards were high end a couple years ago

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5700 should at least be on 1080 144hz

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even then i would say its probably overkill unless you need max graphics

supple bane
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I was watching ltt’s most recent video and i was so confused

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you would have to watch it to understand but he had same ram and cpu as me, but instead of a 1060, a 1660ti

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but in bfv only got around 5-10 FPS more WoahThink

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same settings as what I run too (all high)

storm osprey
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honestly idk the difference between 1060 and 1660ti

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performance wise

latent light
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30% difference

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1660ti compares to 1070

supple bane
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strange

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I do run with a relatively high clock rate on my gpu so I don’t know if that has anything to do with it

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2.1 ghz

storm osprey
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i would assume his test was not OC

latent light
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overclocking with normal cooling doesn't make a big difference

supple bane
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How come ? Because you can’t get enough thermal headroom to pump the clocks high enough to make a difference ?

latent light
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usually in the range of 5-8%

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lol articles are saying the new MSI B450 MAX boards are available but I don't see them anywhere

latent light
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B450 max boards will have a new BIOS chip and better memory support

sour ivy
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welp

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me getting the new ram didnt help performance

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game still runs like shit

prime jasper
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you're positive you installed them in dual channel? you set teh XMP profile?

sour ivy
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no xmp

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i forgot

prime jasper
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yeah that will help

latent light
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@sour ivy does your board have 2 or 4 ram slots

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If you have 4 slots, you have to put both sticks in the 2nd and 4th slots

sour ivy
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@rough gulch is slot 2 closer or further from the cpu

prime jasper
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@sour ivy consult your motherboard manual

sour ivy
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thats a lot of work

prime jasper
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...

coarse nimbus
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are they color coded...

sour ivy
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black and grey

coarse nimbus
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black is one channel and gray is another

steep gust
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not always

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You get random companies that do random stuff so you check the manual every time

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Not hard or time consuming to do

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sour ivy
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yeah its the right most one

latent light
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Looking from left to right, its the 2nd and 4th slot

sour ivy
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yup

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thanks brother

upbeat crypt
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thinking about getting Samsung 970 PRO M.2 NVMe 512GB Internal SSD
and trying out Windows 10
hmm CPU AMD FX-8350 20 °C Vishera 32nm Technology RAM 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 936MHz (11-11-11-28) Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 R2.0 (Socket 942) 25 °C Graphics VX238 (1920x1080@59Hz) SAMSUNG (1920x1080@59Hz) 8176MB ATI AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (ATI)

sour ivy
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8350

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yikes

prime jasper
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lol it will help

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I have no idea what else you run a 5700xt on

latent light
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@upbeat crypt that graphics card will be completely useless because of the CPU bottlneck

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Fx-8350 will even bottleneck a GTX 1060

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if you plan on keeping that CPU, just get a RX 570, that's the most you can get out of that CPU

prime jasper
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it wouldnt be terrible at 1440p though

latent light
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any Fx CPU will still have pretty bad 1% lows at higher resolutions

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@upbeat crypt one last thing, that motherboard doesn't support M.2 NVMe

upbeat crypt
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running W7 for the last few years

prime jasper
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yeah you'll have to move on soon, win 7 is almost dead

latent light
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I recommend anyone to not buy M.2 SSDs because you can get SATA SSDs for the same price with double the storage

upbeat crypt
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well im not interested in storage i have 4 sata's already

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just trying to see if i can squeak out more speed

steep gust
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8350 is fine for overclocking

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that's it

upbeat crypt
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without going all out with a new mobo and cpu

steep gust
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and not even for overclocking a daily

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Literally just overclocking hard for benchmarks

latent light
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ye

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most users can only run 4.5-4.7 GHz daily

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sometimes not even that

upbeat crypt
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4.2 ish currently

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Core 0 4213.3 MHz x 21.0 200.6 MHz 2407.6 MHz

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but meh

latent light
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it boosts to 4.2 out of box

steep gust
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Someone managed like 5.8ghz on air with one

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super not safe voltage

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but still

prime jasper
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you can also overclock the HT link

upbeat crypt
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(i have liquid cooler)

steep gust
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This was also a binned 8.5ghz+ reject

prime jasper
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oof yeah youre missing out

latent light
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if you plan on getting the RX 5700XT, I hope you plan on using it with a future CPU

upbeat crypt
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i already have the 5700xt

latent light
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oof

upbeat crypt
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this is from speccy

latent light
upbeat crypt
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i also have a 2070 geforce lol but it was doa anyway

latent light
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damn

upbeat crypt
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returned it lol

latent light
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did you get a full refund

upbeat crypt
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yes

latent light
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so got your money back and got a RX 5700XT without paying extra

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fair deal

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although you got the reference 5700XT which has a weak cooler

latent light
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your 5700XT is only running at like RX 560 speeds because of the huge CPU bottleneck lol

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even the RX 570 gets bottlenecked by the Fx-8350

prime jasper
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if you really dont have the money to upgrade you need to get overclocking that sucker

latent light
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and only get 3-5% more performance lol

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not worth the extra heat and noise

prime jasper
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better raid the piggy bank lol

latent light
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he's playing on 1080p 60hz monitor

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5700XT is future proof for 1080p 60 fps

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but the Fx-8350 struggles with 60 fps in most new games lmao

prime jasper
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yes indeed

steep gust
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5700XT is garbage with the stock heatsink

latent light
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his is probably running below 50% utilization anyway

lofty light
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I mean it's easy enough to get a water cooler for the 5700XT down the line for a hybrid mod

prime jasper
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or buy a busted 290 and bolt the cooler on LUL

sour ivy
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If I drop my red scale down 1

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Will it be more cpu bound?

prime jasper
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...what?

latent light
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red scale lmao

sour ivy
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Res

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Autocorrect is autistic

prime jasper
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keep it at 100

latent light
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yeah dropping resolution scale puts less load on GPU and more on CPU

charred geyser
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Anyone know why Origin is saying my BFV update is 31GB? That can't be right can it?

latent light
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gotta love the new rumors

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128 CU vega

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that would be ridiculously powerful

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considering Radeon VII only has 60 CU

swift eagle
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@charred geyser it only check your 31gb of game files update is 5gb or something

glad saffron
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Anyone using a founders edition RTX? Do the fans always run or can you cut them completely on low load?

supple bane
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I can’t get my gpu to seat properly in this new case

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there is something blocking it

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That’s as far in as it will go

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There is no where for them to go, they just hit the motherboard tray

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Anyone know why this is ?

upbeat crypt
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@latent light @steep gust @prime jasper @sour ivy @lofty light I mean. If I was to upgrade to a lower end to mid range $$ wise mobo and a CPU that would actually be able to run the 5700XT properly, what would it even be? So many options man. and I wonder could I still run by 32GB of 1866 DDR3. I literally built this PC 3 years ago. Hard to say how its so outdated already. Originally I had a 390x gpu in it. But getting a new mobo and having to get all new ram and shit. Just not in my price range right now... Hmmm. Are there even any Mobo's for DDR3 that I can even get that would accomodate a more recent CPU? Also I am going to look into some Overclocking guides for this 8350. Sigh. Wish at the time I had of just got a board that wasnt AM3+, DDR3 etc. but I honestly did not know any better. lol.

molten bramble
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There are DDR3 motherboards from China that can, but buyer beware.

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@supple bane your motherboard standoff screws that it is mounted to maybe were too short, so the card can’t fit in the pocket? That’d be my guess. No real way to exceed tolerances, it either fits or it doesn’t.

supple bane
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@molten bramble thanks for the advice, i just had to bend some flap out the way with some extra pliers

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We lookin sick so far, just need to do some more cable management

lofty light
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👌

charred geyser
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@swift eagle yeah I just let it be for a while and it went down to the normal 5. Thanks!

sour ivy
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But my cpu is a lot better than my gpu why not drop it down @prime jasper

worn blaze
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Bfv and sli, is it officially possible?

steep gust
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Yes

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@upbeat crypt Yes there are some DDR3 Skylake boards, but its gonna be cheaper and easier to just buy ddr4

random flax
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i update bf v and its finalizing over 20 mine

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is that meant to be like that?

slate ivy
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Let it run, finalizing can take a bit sometimes, if it really gets completely stuck, try clearing your origin cache (tho this could potentially result in having to redownload)

prime jasper
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@upbeat crypt if youre really in a pinch you can look on ebay for mobo/cpu combos for ddr3 that are used, but basically any intel i7 or xeon would be better for gaming than what you have

steep gust
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There is like

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3 Z170 boards with DDR3 support

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but its really niche support for some kits

prime jasper
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@steep gust the older chipsets can sometimes take 6c/12t xeons which are much cheaper usually than HEDT equivalents

steep gust
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and have shit gaming performance LUL

prime jasper
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better than 8350 lol

upbeat crypt
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🤔

steep gust
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That whole buy an Ivy / Sandy / Even older Xeon for a cheap gaming rig works great

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up until you realize performance is literal shit

upbeat crypt
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I live in shit ass CANADA too where everything is 1/3 to double the price of everything thats half the problem

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Not really a good deal to be had

steep gust
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uh even in CAD Zen / Zen + is getting really cheap

worn blaze
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Yep in Canada everything is more expensive.. I can only agree, not to mention the shipping..

prime jasper
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@upbeat crypt you try looking for used z97 chipset boards and seeing what comes up, they will take ddr3 and maybe they'll come with a decent cpu too

steep gust
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Z97 is not cheap LULW

prime jasper
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hell if I know what the used market in our hat is like compared to new

steep gust
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Any CPU from that era is gonna cost a lot

prime jasper
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old decommissioned server xeons are all over ebay

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much cheaper than EBIN GAYMING I7 BUY NOW

steep gust
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again

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those xeons are literal ass for gaming

prime jasper
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bruh how is a 4c/8t xeon any worse than a 4c/8t i7 at the same clocks?

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even on teh same arch

steep gust
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architecture

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and they don't clock the same

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and yes a 4790k is not a good experience to game on anymore

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and I think they are locked in that generation

prime jasper
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sure beats an 8350 though

steep gust
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Maybe the fact it costs $200-400 in USD?

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Its the same cost of a 4790k

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and that was never a good budget cpu

upbeat crypt
supple bane
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i fried my mobo

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dont ask me how because i cant tell you

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but there was smoke

random flax
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my gtx 1070 died so i replace him as rtx 2060

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and it better the the gtx 1070

supple bane
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yes. yes it is. but only by a bit

random flax
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ik

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ik

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i m playing at ultra no problam no even 1 lags drops only first luanch and that it its smooth

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smooth

sour ivy
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Yes sir

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If 1600 people donate me 25 cents I can buy a 2060 super clock

molten bramble
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@supple bane Looks solid!

supple bane
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@molten bramble did you not see the message i sent about my motherboard ?

molten bramble
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Oh shit!

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Nah, hadn't read down that far yet.

supple bane
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oof

molten bramble
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So I am guessing you weren't grounded?

supple bane
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no

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rgb bit me back

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my rgb header went boom

molten bramble
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That sucks man.

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Did you buy a warranty on the board?

supple bane
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idk, if i can claim for it

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becaues it was most likely user error

steep gust
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never hurts to try

molten bramble
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Some retailers will take it back regardless, they just mark it as factory fucked essentially.

steep gust
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wait

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Did you plug a higher voltage RGB cable into one of the low voltage ones

supple bane
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not as im aware

molten bramble
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I mean, I wouldn't offer up a lot of information on the return. They might be willing to work with you.

steep gust
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That's called RMA fraud

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and is uh agaisnt discord ToS to discuss

molten bramble
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It's not fraud ding-dong, that's not what is being discussed.

supple bane
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agreed

steep gust
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You killed it

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You avoid telling them you killed it

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That's called fraud

supple bane
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like you said, its worth a try i guess

molten bramble
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You're looking to deep into things.

steep gust
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no I'm not

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He KILLED it

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He can't return it

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period

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Don't be fucking shitty to retailers

molten coral
molten bramble
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What I am saying is it's not worth going into the details of everything as to how you got to that point. Just explain that you plugged it in, it went poof, and you are wondering if you can get a replacement.

#

That's not fraud.

#

That's what happened.

steep gust
#

Most likely he plugged the wrong cable in

#

and fried it

#

which is user error

molten bramble
#

We don't know that, he clearly doesn't know that.

#

If the retailer cares, they'll ask.

molten coral
#

If that would happen to me and I know I was at fault I would still try it.

steep gust
#

well its glad that y'all have great standards

molten bramble
#

I took two different mobo's back to Microcenter, one was my fault for cooking it, the other came that way.

#

They didn't give a shit, took it right in and replaced it.

steep gust
#

Learn to accept you killed something

molten coral
#

I mean money is money and the end you still get fucked by retailers because they buy everything cheap and sell it for 50/80% more.

steep gust
#

not retailers

#

retailers have shit margins

molten bramble
#

You realize that a return doesn't impact their margin long-term right?

steep gust
#

You realize that its ILLEGAL

molten bramble
#

That's not how supply-chain logistics works.

steep gust
#

I don't care about how you think it works

molten bramble
#

LOL

#

Okay.

molten coral
#

lmao

steep gust
#

You kill something

#

That means the warranty is gone

#

You claim it just all the sudden died or something when you plugged it in

molten bramble
#

Anyways @supple bane just be real about it--there are any number of reasons the board cooked, not necessarily your fault. Just explain what happened and they'll make their determination. Hence what I said about seeing if they will work with you on it.

steep gust
#

The only way you kill something via RGB cables

molten coral
#

So who cares if it's illegal? I've done it a million times and saved hundreds if not thousand of euro's thanks to that but anyways

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

steep gust
#

is via plugging the wrong voltage one in

#

Again Nacho

#

against discord ToS

molten coral
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

steep gust
#

and glad to see you have some uh

#

morals

molten coral
#

I could care less

molten bramble
#

@steep gust You're the only one that assumed someone was advising someone else to do something illegal.

#

Even after it was said that wasn't the case, you're still arguing the point.

#

LOL

steep gust
#

You do realize there are different voltage RGB cables?

molten bramble
#

Oh God..

steep gust
#

Your motherboard headers

#

don't give a shit

molten bramble
#

I'm done.

steep gust
#

I can draw 100v

#

it'll fry the board

#

but the header will let me

#

Now this might be hard for you to realize

#

But its damn easy to plug the wrong cable in

#

Which makes its USER error

#

and now the warranty is gone

#

That's hard to understand I guess

#

If you go and tell them exactly what happens, and then still get a new one. That's not illegal

If you go and tell them "oh it died IDK how" that's fraud

molten bramble
#

@supple bane So what else did you buy for the machine? Did you have anything else plugged in when the mb cooked?

sour ivy
#

Officially listed my old components

#

😃

molten bramble
sour ivy
#

Wtf my 6500 already sold

#

5 minutes

storm osprey
#

6500?

sour ivy
#

85

#

I5*

steep gust
#

I bought an Accelero 4 for $2.25 on ebay yesterday

#

Lets buy the mounting hardware missing and sell it for $40

latent light
#

only $270 for a 12 core threadripper

#

would be a great buy for people who want to jump on the platform

molten bramble
sour ivy
#

Yes

steep gust
#

Unique look

storm osprey
#

looks like recycled burned marshmellow

molten bramble
#

^ LUL

sour ivy
#

Wish I could post photos here

#

Y’all censor me

#

Y’all holding me

steep gust
#

its basic for any server with nearly 50k members

sour ivy
#

Smh

#

I should be owner of server dude

molten bramble
#

You can, just go create one.

sour ivy
#

No u

supple bane
#

@molten bramble @steep gust turns out the board was damaged

#

After a close look I found two little things that I don’t know the name of, I would assume resistors, but they are completely melted and the pcb around them is burnt

steep gust
#

Check the rgb cable you plugged in

supple bane
#

Ik what I did

#

And I’m not going to say it as I will make my self look like a moron

#

ok

#

in laments terms, I plugged my power supply directly into my rgb header

#

I’m not going to explain how

#

As it is a long story

sour ivy
#

It just happened

steep gust
#

wait

#

4 pin to molex fan adapter into a rgb header?

latent light
supple bane
#

fine I’ll tell the story as fast as possible

#

I put the fans into the rgb header on the motherboard but they weren’t being detected in fusion and I had already been at this for a few hours and I was like fuck it I’ll just use the wired controller, but when I was gathering all the led connected at the back of the pc to put them into the wired controller, I also grabbed the one that went straight into the mobo and I didn’t notice

#

Turned it on

#

boom

#

it was sata power btw not molex

#

Because deepcool have a way to stop you using other products with their hubs and splitters with shit

#

So to use the led splitter, you need a special deepcool cable that goes from the motherboard into the splitter, but the end of that cable is the exact same as the ends on the leds for the fans

#

So I grabbed it expecting it to be a fan

steep gust
#

All i have to say is

#

oof

latent light
supple bane
#

I have a 240 mm rad to cool an i5 7400 now WoahThink

#

full load I’m at 43 degrees WoahHappy

steep gust
#

and yeah you kinda killed the board there blobfingerguns

supple bane
#

yup

#

Would you say the cpu would be dead ?

#

all the other components survived

#

I just can’t test the cpu as I don’t have a board for it and im like super anxious

latent light
#

Corsair might make motherboards and become a GPU partner in the future

mystic crystal
#

Hey guys i got a question

#

There is a GTX 1070 Zotac edition with 8gb 256bit and all the things the 1070 has

#

and a 1660 ti 6gb which is even slightly expensive

#

so according to performance the gtx 1070 is better

#

is it true?

#

and which one should be better off buying

prime jasper
#

@woeful crater

#

what is the manufacture and where did you find it

#

is it a msi gtx ore azus

mystic crystal
#

GeForce GTX1070 Zotac IceStorm 8GB GDDR5, HDMI/DP/DVI-D/256bit/ZT-

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and

#

GeForce GTX1660Ti Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC 6GB GDDR6, HDMI/3xDP/192bit/GV-N166TWF2

steep gust
#

@supple bane CPU should be fine

#

vcore traces don't intersect the RGB stuff

dusty lake
#

i lost my breath looking at this for the past

latent light
#

someone selling a NZXT N7 Z370 motherboard for only $60 on facebook

supple bane
#

i didnt even know nzxt made mobos WoahHappy

cosmic warren
#

anyone know easy way to have origin recognize installed BFV on my other drive?

#

without it redownloading my whole game which its done like 4 times wince I swap computers so much.

#

like it sees that i have the files installed and says ha I'm about to ruin this guys time and redownloads the whole bfv again

#

oh nvm thanks for everyones help

#

you can just right click locate and locate the game now like steam but even faster process then steam thank god.

#

i dont have to wait 1 hour 30 mins to download this piece of shiite game

molten bramble
median cloak
#

anyone having a weird twinkling or shiny graphic error in bf5 rn? everytime i boot it up it looks like theres twinkling stars everywhere

supple bane
#

that might be an issue with your gpu

#

weird effects and glitches tend to happen when you gpu is dying iirc

median cloak
#

figured it out. oc was too high. ty though

steep gust
#

@supple bane they don't

#

Its an OEM board with their logo and some plastic shit on it

latent light
supple bane
#

fair enough

steep gust
#

At least everyone else does some mild custom stuff

#

PCBs are cheap

latent light
#

how expensive is a PCB with PCIe 4.0 quality connections

random flax
#

does dx12 should be on with rtx 2060

#

?

steep gust
#

DX12 works on uh

#

Maxwell and above iirc

#

@latent light Its the switches that is expensive

supple bane
#

erm. so. i killed my motherboard. and i need a new one, any suggestions, needs to be am4 in micro atx form factor. under 120 dollars

#

oh and it needs to have an rgb header

violet plank
#

i hate this guy,really lost so many hours studying his tables LUL

#

and still can't decide on a mobo lol

latent light
#

@supple bane get a B450 MAX motherboard when they come out

latent light
#

So apparently you can't use a USB drive with more than 32GB to flash a BIOS or boot into an OS because anything above 32GB can't use FAT32

coarse nimbus
#

take that 1%ers of flash drives 😤

steep gust
#

just uh

#

make a partition with fat32

supple bane
#

@latent light whats the release date on that ? and could you link me to a vid or something, im struggling to find anything

steep gust
#

Do you need Zen 2 support out of the box?

supple bane
#

atm. i think my most likely choice is the ASRock B450M Steel Legend

#

no

#

i have a 2600

steep gust
#

Then don't worry about the B450 max boards

supple bane
#

the steel legend matches my needs perfectly

latent light
#

B450 max will be priced the same as regular B450, so why not

steep gust
#

its a bios update

#

better cost the same

latent light
#

also better memory support

steep gust
#

That comes with Zen 2 CPUs + new BIOS

latent light
#

yeah because Zen 2 IMC right

#

"And while the original motherboards officially housed DDR4 memory modules up to 3,466 MHz, the latest MAX motherboards can support memory speeds up to 4,133 MHz."

#

I wouldn't be disappointed if they labelled these B450 MAX boards as B550 lol

steep gust
#

well its not LUL

latent light
#

B550 won't be much better

#

probably the same memory support

#

there is also small cosmetic changes between some B450 and MAX boards

#

color of the heatsinks

violet plank
#

bleh,availability of good 2x16gig sticks is such a pain in the ass

supple bane
#

but why do you need 32 gb of ram?

#

are you just gaming ?

violet plank
#

look at bfv,using already 12 gigs

#

for the game only

#

maybe in a year or 2 won't be enough anymore for some

supple bane
#

rn 32 is too much for a usual gaming system

#

16 is plenty for gaming and streaming

violet plank
#

and i do photo editing and on some rare cases video enconding

#

i don't stream tho

#

no idea if that sucks any more ram

supple bane
#

but even then, your never going to use 16 gb of ram

violet plank
#

lol have you ever edited raw photos ?

supple bane
#

no but im assuming it wont use 16gb

violet plank
#

32 gigs is like not enough LUL

#

or the bare minimum

#

those files are huge

#

and for some reasons 32 gigs is cheaper than 16

supple bane
#

ye there is something wrong there m8

#

you are probs looking at different speeds LULW

violet plank
#

like if you double the 16gig price

#

i just want 2x16 gigs 3600 cl 16 16 16 34

#

hard af to find here

#

preferable without rgb lol

#

that's even harder to find,anything has rgb NotLikeThis

#

like really anything lul

#

and i'm using an isolated closed case

supple bane
#

i do buy rgb stuff, but i dont have it on like, gay pride mode, my theme is white and cyan, my case is white, and all my fans and my pump is on cyan

#

i also have a white keyboard with the backlights on syan

#

and some led stips under my desks on cyan

violet plank
#

well i can't see anything in my case,no windows at all,so wasted money with rgb

latent light
#

your motherboard isn't white

supple bane
latent light
#

I really hope they come out with a B550 tomahawk arctic

steep gust
#

@violet plank 3600 16-16-16-36 is not a common bin

violet plank
#

4x8 would be easy to get,but there is only 1 x570 t-top board,and that sucks

steep gust
#

yikes that heatsink

latent light
#

isn't it 16-18-18-38

steep gust
#

That would probably be cjr

#

but yeah no reason to pay a bunch for b-die

#

if you ain't gonna memory overclock

latent light
#

16-18-18-38 3200 is very common

steep gust
#

The difference between 3200cl14 and 3600cl16 is uh

#

not a lot

#

but in price it is

latent light
#

my motherboard can't handle my memory at stock

supple bane
#

thinking about it now you said it grim, i should see if i can find an arctic mobo haHAA

latent light
#

don't get B350

violet plank
#

the qlv is 16 16 16 36

latent light
#

although B350 is the only white Ryzen boards out there

violet plank
#

of the boards i'm looking at

supple bane
#

what is wrong with b350?

violet plank
#

price difference is actually about the same here

steep gust
#

QVL is worthless

violet plank
#

some 3600 are even cheaper lol

steep gust
#

Everyone but Corsair uses the same general PCBs

latent light
#

B350 just doesn't have good support, bad overclocking in general

steep gust
#

and everyone uses the same ICs

violet plank
#

i never ever buy corsair ram haHAA

latent light
#

B350 can only do 2933 MHz memory

#

some can only do 2800

#

and some unlucky people can do only 2666

supple bane
#

you do realise i only have 2133 OMEGALUL

latent light
#

2133 with ryzen

#

why

violet plank
#

enable xmp !

supple bane
#

i did!

#

and it didnt do anythign !

violet plank
#

so you did it wrong

supple bane
#

i am for some reason stuck at 1000 mhz

#

and i cant get past it

violet plank
#

or you really have crappy ram ?

supple bane
#

ironically

#

crapsair ram

violet plank
supple bane
#

this is what i am stuck at

violet plank
#

now that sucks lol

latent light
#

1066x2 = 2133

#

so you are running at 2133

supple bane
#

hmm

#

i didnt know it worked like that

violet plank
#

that's low in 2019,like lowest of low for ddr4

supple bane
#

no no

latent light
#

yeah that's like 800 on DDR3

supple bane
#

some ddr4 goes into high 1ghz

#

like 1900 or some crap

violet plank
#

there is nothing below 2133 for dd4 iirc

#

that's the base spd speed

supple bane
#

there is, i promise

latent light
#

starts at 2133, ends at 4600

supple bane
#

well i have been lied to by amazon

violet plank
#

exactly as grim says

supple bane
#

im not gonna mess around with my bios on this temporary board to try and get the clocks up

#

because i might have to do it again

#

if you dont know, i blew my motherboard up. quite litterally, so im using a temporary one

#

a mini itx mobo in an atx case

#

looks stupid

violet plank
#

2 x 16 gig 16 16 16 36 cheaper than 2 x 16 gig 14 14 14 34 ,but both out of stock and no info on next delivery NotLikeThis

supple bane
violet plank
#

well,2-4 weeks,that's like,we don't know,just wanted to put something in there

supple bane
#

its cute!

#

doesnt even cover the motherboard tray as you can see on the right of it

violet plank
#

it's small

supple bane
#

i stuffed the 24 pin down the hole the motherboard is meant to cover

violet plank
#

i always go for big towers,i need space,and it's under my desk anyways

#

that kinda looks like a cube

steep gust
#

@supple bane DDR literally stands for double data rate

latent light
steep gust
#

2133 is the effective clock

#

@violet plank There is an 1866 JEDEC bin IIRC

steep gust
#

its not great

#

solid front panel

#

I can't do side intake since my computer sits beside a wall

supple bane
#

there is very complicated too

#

i like simple

#

thats why i like the h500 so much

coarse nimbus
#

top mount psu...what is this the 90s? GWsetmyxPeepoWeird

supple bane
#

i know people that wont buy a case if it doesnt have a disk reader

strange lichen
#

I can't find a good case with a proper front panel

supple bane
#

well. what do you mean by propper front panel

strange lichen
#

The NZXT cases have their USB and power buttons on the top and have no external bays

#

But they look really nice

supple bane
#

kinda like every single case on the market ? haHAA

#

almost all cases use that design

strange lichen
#

You mean USB on the top instead of the front

supple bane
#

well on the top corner yes

strange lichen
#

I have my computer on my desk

#

So having USB on top of the case would be inconvenient

supple bane
#

well good luck finding one that has a different design

#

oh wait, i do know a case thats front io you could move around the side panel, but i dont remember the name of it

strange lichen
#

What do you mean move around to the side panel

#

That's not what I'm saying

#

I'm saying that I want front io that's on the front panel instead of the top panel

supple bane
#

No I’ll try to find it

strange lichen
#

The NZXT cases have their io on the top

supple bane
#

It will work for you trust me

#

cooler master master box q300p

#

look at a pic

#

You can see the front io is kinda on the side

#

And you can take it off and move it to top, left, bottom etc

strange lichen
#

I don't need that

#

I just need front io on the front instead of on the top

steep gust
#

then buy a case like that

sour ivy
#

Best case under 45 dollars?

#

Or 50

supple bane
#

Cases that cheap are going to equally suck

#

just get the one that looks nicest

sour ivy
#

Mines front ports don’t work anymore

latent light
#

my friends 3600X only gets to 47C under full load stock with 360mm AIO

#

that's with PBO enabled

#

when he turned boost off, it's at 3.8 GHz at only 1.1v and max temp under full load is 34C

steep gust
#

3600x should only do like 140w max

latent light
#

it seems to reach it's max clock speed at stock

#

he can't get higher manually overclocking

#

it goes to 4.3 GHz all core stock

#

his cinebench R15 score is 1645

#

with CL16 3200 ram

latent light
#

dude pulled the cooler off and it took the CPU with it, assumed it's designed like that

prime jasper
#

lmao its convenient

supple bane
#

They should start making low end internet browsing chips like that tbf

#

With it just built into the stock cooler

#

Also grim that cinebench of the 3600x seems low

#

my 2600 got 1500 iirc

pallid silo
#

Saw that the ryzen 7 1700 when overclocked uses a lot more power is it worth to OC it

#

Not gaming only streaming and premier pro

night igloo
#

hello guys i am getting connection lost to the server issue.

#

even my ping is good

#

any solution ?

#

its not even connecting for the 1st time

sly portal
#

do you guys think that the r5 3600 will bottleneck a RTX2080??

supple bane
#

no

violet plank
#

Asrock x570 Taichi,fail by design,seriously,what were they thinking NotLikeThis

dawn linden
#

are 2 cpus TOO POWERFUL

steep gust
#

Dual socket boards are generally garbage for gaming

#

and a lot of other workloads

steep gust
#

with how cheap TR4 got

#

The only time you need to go dual socket for a lot of cores is heavy budget

#

You can buy 15c Xeons for $80 off of ebay, and a $150-200 dual socket board

#

60 threads for $500-600

supple bane
#

but as it has been demonstrated before. more doesnt always mean better when it comes to cores and threads, especially in gaming, and in work loads too

steep gust
#

yes well if all you need is a VM box

#

then its great

#

No one is buying dual socket boards and xeons for gaming

random flax
#

umm i have rtx 2060
i switch my gtx 1070 bc its was broken
does i need to enable settings in bf v? like dx12 or somthing like whice settings

#

?

supple bane
#

no

random flax
#

cuz idk i have the gpu memory on

#

idk if i should turn of or not

supple bane
#

you cant just turn your gpu's memory off

#

ill assume you mean gpu memory restriction. and to that i say, it doesnt make a difference at all

#

all it does is lower the chances of a crash. but even then. it doesnt really do much of that either

random flax
#

ok

#

XD

supple bane
rigid nacelle
#

Interesting, usually mobos can detect a random surge of power like that and shut down but I know what you mean, my AIO is from Deepcool as well

supple bane
#

what one you got ?

rigid nacelle
#

Captain 240Ex RGB

supple bane
#

oh ye, i have the gammax l240

steep gust
#

@rigid nacelle He put 3.3v down something that is only suppose to supply voltage

Motheboards do not have any kind of OVP on headers, you can draw 100v through one if you want

supple bane
#

well i doubt that, it would just melt

#

i have seen 16v make metal glow lol

steep gust
#

It would trip PSU OVP

#

but your motherboard would allow it

supple bane
#

yes it would allow it, but it still wouldnt survive on any means

#

im glad that the resistor did fail tbf. because if it let that power pass it could have done so much more damage

#

that was what caught fire btw, a resistor

rigid nacelle
#

Most modern motherboards do, yes. ASUS mobos since like 2014 do, and they also have the OVP post codes on most mobos

steep gust
#

uh this is headers

#

not some fancy magical thing, they supply what is drawn

#

I know I can easily overload my fan headers on both my Asus boards

supple bane
#

well i have 6 fans on one header atm

#

so

steep gust
#

If you plug the wrong RBG cable into a header, it will destroy the cable / header

rigid nacelle
#

What I’m saying is most motherboards will still alert you to this, which is why the OVP post codes exist lol

steep gust
#

OVP applies to CPU, etc

#

I know this because my motherboard throws OVP if I set 1.56 vcore

#

1.55 works

supple bane
#

im just super anxious of my cpu ffs

#

i couldnt sleep last night thinking about it

#

lol

steep gust
#

and I just checked my Asus manual, no post codes on any of the protections

#

The CPU should be fine*

supple bane
#

but its the SHOULD that worries me

#

like you said, the rgb track doesnt intercept the cpu tracks but still

#

3.3v to a cpu would be insta death if it did somehow get to it

steep gust
#

The power planes shouldn't intersect at all

#

So unless something really fucked up

supple bane
#

we are talking about giggle byte here just saying lol

#

i dont understand why the whole mobo is dead from one resistor tho

#

like, i understand the rgb not working lol, but it doenst make sense for everything to be dead

steep gust
#

A lot of VRM controllers start up on 3.3v

#

If you blew the rail stuff won't start

supple bane
#

well i have a pretty cool story to tell and a trophy to go with it i guess OMEGALUL

#

i say cool like im not a fucking idiot

#

i blame it on deepcool for making all the connectors the same

#

fooling me into thinking it was a fan

supple bane
#

i think something else got damaged, my pc just keeps shutting down and rebooting as soon as i try to play games

#

anyone know why this might be ?

#

i either think that it is my ram or it is my psu

violet plank
#

i had a psu that blew up once,guess it was sending a last surge through my mobo,everything fried on it including ram and cpu

#

well not everything,the gpu survived somehow lol

#

tested the ram modules on another machine with memtest 86 afterwards,2 of 4 sticks not readable at all,the other 2 just calculated garbage

#

if you can boot to windows check your ram with memtest86

#

my guess,your mobo has some fried circuits

#

if your cpu was damaged it wouldn't even boot

#

and you can read out your power flows of the psu in the mobo bios

#

a good bios would alert you anyways if there was something wrong

#

with voltage or whatever

#

like unstable

latent light
#

Intel underhand paying UserBenchmark it seems

violet plank
#

so does nvidia 😏

supple bane
#

hahahhah

#

lol

violet plank
#

what's the quality of msi motherboards these days?haven't used one since ages

supple bane
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i think i may have found my issue btw

violet plank
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i'm so pissed that they fucked up the asrock taichi layout ... NotLikeThis

supple bane
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i had a super high overclock on my gpu

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i completly forgot about it

violet plank
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omg LUL

supple bane
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i am yet to test it, but fingers are crossed

violet plank
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did you hit yourself for that at least ? LUL

supple bane
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i took my rad off and everything so i could swap out ram

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when i was changing it i realised i had an overclock and i screamed ffs i am an idiot

steep gust
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your GPU overclock doesn't stop from booting

supple bane
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it was booting

steep gust
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Depends on how you did it

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Driver or software level

supple bane
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as soon as i launched a game it would just instantly crash

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but like

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whole pc crash

reef pasture
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F

supple bane
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ok it wasnt overclock

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i crashed again as soon as i launched bf

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it seems to be only bf

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im gonna try a bunch of other games, one sec

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ok i lied

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everything seems to be crashing

violet plank
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install cpuid hwmonitor

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i bet you didn't check your voltages yet as i told you

supple bane
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I’m doing the more obvious stuff first back off for a sec

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every time I want to try a different ram slot, I have to take my radiator off due to clearance

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So it’s gonna take a while

violet plank
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did you ran memtest86 ?

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so much you can do before even touching any hardware

supple bane
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i took out a ram stick and got this pop up

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what would this mean ?

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and as soon as i sent that message i blue screened

steep gust
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unstable memory

supple bane
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ok thanks

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so my issue is most likely ram ?

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or like 100%ram?

steep gust
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It could be RAM

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could be CPU

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Sounds like RAM

supple bane
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ik the cpu works

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aight

steep gust
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use that

supple bane
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aight, will do

tropic pebble
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Guys im having a lot of lagg after i updated the game is so horrible i cant even play too much lagg its like im playing on a 2005 pc. What happened?? And how can i play it like i used to? I need to fix this. Any suggestions?

latent light
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repair game files

violet plank
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i told u hours ago to use a mem tester Picard

supple bane
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ik you did

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and i quote, "im doing the more obvious stuff, then ill try all this" and im still doing that" i was just trying to be nice and not just rejecting his help

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i have narrowed it down to either a ram stick or a motherboard slot

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but im done for the day now, ill continue in the morning

prime jasper
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upbeat crypt
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So my new build is coming in the mail. Excited to put it together!

• ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Mobo
• AMD RYZEN 7 3700X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.4 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W
• Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 PCI-E HDMI / TRIPLE DP (UEFI)
• Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD
• Cooler Master MasterBox MB530P ATX Mid-Tower w/ 3 x Tempered Glass Panel
• Corsair Hydro Series, H115i PRO RGB, 280mm CPU Cooler
• Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)
• Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1000W 80+ Gold PSU, Full Modular, 135mm FDB Fan w/Hybrid Fan Control

$2700 CAD.

Plus I just have some regular Sata drives for storage from my previous PC.
(FX-8350, R9 390x, Asus M97a R2.0, NZXT Lexa S, Kingston HyperX Predator M.2, 32 GB of Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866 etc.)

Anyways, stoked. After posting here someone said I was really bottle necking with my old CPU and Mobo so.
You know, I told myself my next build was going to switch to Intel. But idk man.

But I gotta say, it really errks my how fast time flies, and, in how short of a time computers become so behind tech wise. I dropped like $3500 on my old build just 4 years ago... to me thats a lot. I'm poor and have to save up for months for this haha. Then I'm seeing CPU's for $900 and want to cry. hahahhaa. I wish I was rich.
Anyways excited to finally run BFV smooth as butter. It actually doesnt run all too badly already even with 2015 tech lol.

lofty light
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Same mobo as I'm getting, looks real good man 👌

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Actually same ram too

upbeat crypt
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@lofty light great minds 😉

supple bane
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Build sounds top notch man

supple bane
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i personally would have waited for the 3rd party version of the 5700xt as the normal one has a sucky cooler

lofty light
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Same, unless I had a spare AIO to stick on it

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I love water-cooled cards

hoary ember
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guys i have rx 590 and r5 2600

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i want to upgrade my gpu next year

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should i upgrade my cpu too

supple bane
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no

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well, what do you plan on upgrading too ?

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and why lol? the 590 is perfectly fine

hoary ember
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someone is going to give me 2k monitor

supple bane
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oh.

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cough 5700xt

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that gpu is 1440p beast mode

hoary ember
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u sure 2600 can handle it

supple bane
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let me tell you something. a.) 2600 is a great cpu and will handle 1440p np b.) the higher resolution you go the less cpu power you need and the more gpu power you need. if you are going to 1440p you arent going to need all that much cpu, but tons of gpu

hoary ember
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oh ok bru

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thx

upbeat crypt
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@supple bane im gonna watch temps. maybe an aftermarket gpu cooler when one is available for this gpu?

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i also only run 1080p

quaint topaz
supple bane
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does look pretty sweet

untold sluice
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Narrowed down a budget video card for my small upgrade. Anyone have opinion on the follow two cards?

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vs.

molten bramble
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I don’t use Radeon, bad experiences in the past with performance, couldn’t help ya there.

untold sluice
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the MSI RX 570 vs. XFX RX 570

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ahh ok

molten bramble
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I am sure someone here can though.

untold sluice
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I was considering 1050 ti, but lots of the review sites compared 1050 ti with RX 570 and found 570 more cost effective

prime jasper
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yeah rx570 is definitely the better pick of the two

molten bramble
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I have the 1050Ti as a secondary card now, but you’re better off picking up the 1660Ti—definitely worth the difference in price.

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Like, night and day difference in terms of performance.

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There is a site that compares GPUs by performance and value with a sort of live pricing index. I’ll see if I can find the link in a bit.

untold sluice
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I thought about 1660TI, but my CPU is i5-3570K and 8 GB of ram - I feel like 1660TI is probably going to be dragged down by the rest of the system

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I will bump the memory to 16 GB too with this upgrade, but if I want a better CPU I will have to change MB

prime jasper
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really at that point you should probably be saving for a cpu/mobo/ram combo, which you can get for about the same price as a gpu upgrade

molten bramble
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^

untold sluice
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yes that is true

molten bramble
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I’d start with the base system first.

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pcpartpicker site can give you an idea on how far your money can take you

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Lot of budget builds on that site.