Going with Ryzen now so went for highest speeds at cheap ass price
#technology
lofty light
molten bramble
$259.97 there with Prime.
lofty light
Oof
lofty light
That US though?
molten bramble
Maybe, not sure.
I skipped the RGB, they didn't have 3200Mhz in stock anyways. Most interested in the workhorse than the lighting myself.
lofty light
I like both, although I'd prefer to have it just blue tbh
molten bramble
Yeah, the only lighting I have in the machine is set to blue.
lofty light
Noice choice 👌
steep gust
I paid more
For a 2x8 kit
Just under two years ago
And it isnt even binned as well
lofty light
Yeah my current ram I bought just before the huge price hike, was actually still cheaper than what I'm paying now 
broken forge
i bought 8gbx2 3200 cl16 for 80, i guess thats a decent price?
lofty light
I was watching the ASUS one of that just then
Seeing as I bought the TUF Gaming mobo on his reccomendation I wanted to feel I made the right choice 😛
molten bramble
@broken forge Found that for $60 earlier today. how long ago did you buy?
broken forge
like 4 days ago
molten bramble
Oh shit.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=LPX+16Gb+3200&qid=1563770297&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677429011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A16955285011%2Cp_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-11 $73 now, looks like the price went up
supple bane
@molten bramble that’s most likely because you looked at it twice or even more, amazon has an algorithm that ups the price of products that you are interested in iirc
latent light
My friend has the X570 Steel Legend but he can't disable CPU boost clock
He's trying to set a manual clock speed and voltage but the CPU turbo won't let him
There's no option at all to disable boost
lofty light
The wonderful early adopter days
rigid knoll
You're probably tracked via your amazon account so vpn doesn't help
lofty light
And this is why I never buy from Amazon 
rigid knoll
Quite a while ago some flights portal was caught showing iDevice users higher prices
supple bane
i mean, take what i said with a grain of salt, this is just what people have told me, im cant say that it is fact
supple bane
i had the side panel of my pc off to clean the dust out and a fly flew into one of the fans
just turned it into fly soup
steep gust
The whole amazon changes prices works until you realize other people see the same prices and website track them
prime jasper
what?
sour ivy
Is your performance worse or better than the launch
Mine is much worse
It feels like the game stutters constantly
storm osprey
damn, ram prices jumped up quickly
steep gust
Yes that's how price fixing goes
supple bane
!!r3
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supple bane
@sweet prairie do us all a favour and delete that please, because once a mod sees it it will get deleted anyway.
sweet prairie
@supple bane sorry
supple bane
storm osprey
look at granny being all helpful
hoary ember
Guys
my ryzen 2600 getting a worse scıre
score
than a 1600
why
it goes up to 72 celcius in stress test
why
prime jasper
check your cooler/paste
hoary ember
ı think the stock paste is like the dentalish
cuz people's 2600 work at 35 40 celcius mine is 46 while it does nothing
stressing it now
went to 73
i think i need a paste
latent light
is it using the paste that was already on the cooler
hoary ember
@latent light yes the company which i bought did the thermal paste thing
but they are using cheap ones
supple bane
what cooler are you using ?
supple bane
and are all the "other peoples" on stock coolers ?
hoary ember
i think so
supple bane
so you dont KNOW ?
hoary ember
nobody would use a custom cooler on 2600
supple bane
lol
that is completely incorrect
most likley those people hitting 35 on idle just have after market coolers. now moving onto your bad score... what are you using to bench mark it ?
like what software?
supple bane
ok, dont worry about it until you go past 85
hoary ember
while the 1600's score is 3100 my 2600's score is aroun 3000
storm osprey
youd have to test it on your own rig to get rid of any other variables
otherwise you have to question a bunch of things like thermals, other components, etc
supple bane
mate, there is nothing wrong
storm osprey
even so, 3100 vs 3000...
supple bane
the 1600 benchmarks mostly will have overclocks on them, thats why the scores are high compared to your stock speed
what you are seeing is perfectly fine and normal
storm osprey
uhh ryzen is ram dependent for gaming
i assume that carries across other application
hoary ember
i have single channel 8
supple bane
oof
supple bane
that will be one of the things that is lowering your scores
storm osprey
yea ill assume thats hindering your score even though i dont know the test
hoary ember
right...
supple bane
its passmark nyphon
supple bane
lol
hoary ember
lul
i made tests cuz
my pc is getting frozen like for 5 or 6 seconds while i play games
hoary ember
no
storm osprey
because if thats the case blame bfv
hoary ember
apex, forza and cs go
storm osprey
sorry, that just usually covers 90% of the problems people come in here for
hoary ember
it is strange to get fps drops and freezes in this games for me
cuz that never happened before
supple bane
how frequent are these mini crashes happening ?
supple bane
ram wont cause games to freeze like that
storm osprey
he does have single stick
hoary ember
i mean
it freezed and when it got dissolved
the game continued while i see and did nothing
prime jasper
update drivers/bios
prime jasper
drivers/bios are all on the manufacturers website
hoary ember
is it risky to update bios
supple bane
nope
prime jasper
your graphics card driver is on either amd/nvidias site
hoary ember
gpu drivers are the latest
supple bane
re install them then
aslong as you get the bios from the manufacturers website its perffectly safe
also dude you worry too much
prime jasper
well if games are freezing for several seconds at a time theres definitely an issue lol
supple bane
well he worried about his cpu being at 70 degrees under load, and that he was getting like a tiny bit less than average on passmark
thats what i am saying
hoary ember
i thought freezes was connected with these
supple bane
the things that you mentioned arent even a problems like i said, they are all normal
storm osprey
hell you can have problems because gpu isnt seated correctly
(idk if it would cause those problems in particular)
supple bane
ye before you pass out from fear 
hoary ember
funny
supple bane
and let me guess, its like 10% more expensive ?
latent light
$700 msrp
supple bane
how much is the 2080?
supple bane
i live in the uk
i didnt do any research on the supers at all, they dont interest me, i the new amd cards have my heart atm
supple bane
thats why didnt do any research on them
i kid you not, i havent watched or googled anything about them
storm osprey
ahh
i have
basically if you want the nvidia features you get those, if you want pure fps you get amd
supple bane
im gob smacked that the 2080 is double the price here than it is in the us
is it possible to use a vpn to buy shit from america then just have it shipped to the uk ?
prime jasper
lel that would be epic
supple bane
im not supprised
the only area intel own now is mobile and server
imo amd dominate everything else
steep gust
it fails to beat it in 1% and 0.1%
latent light
Epyc Rome is about to dominate server
steep gust
which is the only numbers that matter for csgo
prime jasper
playing csgo
2020-1
prime jasper
Just Wait ™
supple bane
i cant think of something that an intel fanboi could say to defend them selves now
prime jasper
and only 1080p at that
once you move past that its just no contest
either your GPU is good or it isnt
latent light
I can see the Ryzen 5 3600 being the most sold CPU ever within a few months from now
watch them drop it to $150 in the holidays
supple bane
i would have got one, its just i would have been such a waste getting such a powerful chip and my poor little 10603gb not being able to keep up with it
steep gust
HEDT isn't dying
supple bane
its like, i am paying the extra 100 pound and i would have seen any fps increast
steep gust
People quoted that without realizing that quad channel is really important for a lot of workloads
prime jasper
lmao whatever you say, those prices are a joke and the performance doesnt even come close to justifying 2x the cost of an AMD 12c/24t
supple bane
remind me, da fuq is hedt ?
prime jasper
wait for the 3950x
supple bane
oh
latent light
you can buy a 12 core 1920X for only $270 which has quad channel
steep gust
and that has all the issues of first gen threadripper
prime jasper
Im talking 3900x, which is far better than still not even close to the cost of the intel equivalent
supple bane
i am the only one that makes me wonder WHY the intel chips are so expensive? like ye i get you can have better warrenty or different materials and all that other crap. but like, half the price in some cases for more performance, there must be something that intel does to make the chips so expensive, or are intel just a scam ?
latent light
also threadripper has more PCIe lanes than anything Intel has to offer
steep gust
ah
good old AMD advertising chipset lanes as total lanes
@supple bane X299 has never been designed for consumers
The 9980XE exists for people who need high core counts with a lot of performance, when time is money and it shaves 5% off your render time you can ignore the cost
supple bane
i was mainly aiming at the 3600 in that.....which i guess i didnt specify
steep gust
The 3950x will not topple the 9980XE
It doesn't have the feature set of an HEDT CPU
steep gust
Mostly stuff on chipset
RAM
PCIe lanes (part of chipset)
Expandability
X299 / X399 has way more storage options
latent light
steep gust
so well over double the lanes of X570 + 3950x on the CPU alone for both
prime jasper
9980xe currently 2 whole stacks on Amazon, wew laddie
steep gust
I know someone who bought a 9980XE for $1300 recently
if you pay $2000 you are getting ripped off
You can't use more than 2 GPUs on any consumer platform
SLI doesn't work with x4 lanes and most boards only have 3 x16 slots
You generally don't need SLI for rendering, etc but x4 is still bandwidth starved to hell
prime jasper
Im gonna double your lanes in a minute
prime jasper
latent light
probably the smartest tech youtuber I know
or at least goes way deeper than any other tech channel
forest token
I think this was in here before as an image, here is more info about it
"Combines a PS4 Pro, an Xbox One X, a Nintendo Switch and a high-end gaming PC onto one chassis"
watercooled
forest token
latent light
prime jasper
Vega and Polaris and Sea Islands are all fine on Linux, for example.
lofty light
Not surprised, they've had time to work out any kinks with the software
cursive marten
Doesn't Radeon VII work on Linux?
steep gust
It should
latent light
1080Ti to 2080 Super
2 year difference
10-15% performance increase
Same $700 price
-27% VRAM capacity decrease
supple bane
UP THE AMD!!!
latent light
if you play BFV it'll be an upgrade
considering AMD equivalent GPUs are usually 20% faster in BFV
RX 5700XT already beats the 2080 in BFV actually
supple bane
is it a bad idea painting the shroud of a gpu ? as im getting a h500 and some white psu cables, its tempting to make my gpu shroud white too
supple bane
it worries me as my gpu has some very complex things i would have to paint around
yanno, just so it isnt a white box
latent light
it's easy to remove a GPU shroud
latent light
put tape over the logo
storm osprey
^
violet plank
replacing my 1080ti with a 5700 would be huge downgrade
bf is not my most played game
anymore
supple bane
the thing is, look on the right, you see how the part i want to paint extends down into the decal. kinda splitting it in half ?
violet plank
still can't decide which x570 mobo i should get
supple bane
i want it to look good!
storm osprey
tape everything that isnt matte black and spray paint it
painter tape and exacto knife everything
violet plank
buy a white card
supple bane
no thanks, im not made of money
if those decals where stickers this would be so much easier
saying that, i would spend like 3 days getting them perfectly back aligned once i take them off
storm osprey
tape exacto knife!
supple bane
i have the art skills of a dog with no paws
storm osprey
its not art, you jut follow lines
supple bane
i wouldnt really say its a worthy change tho
your gonna pay hundreds of dollars for the sake of a couple fps
and even a downgrade in some places
prime jasper
its almost the same
violet plank
i play on 1440p @latent light
latent light
results are basically the same at 1440p
violet plank
well that's nice for bfv,what about all the rest
i know bfv hugely favors amd cards
latent light
1080Ti will still be ahead in games like Fortnite, GTA V, Witcher 3, PUBG
by roughly 10-15%
violet plank
i get more fps on 1440p as on those charts
latent light
those are Nvidia titles though
violet plank
oh wait,my bad,looked on the wrong one
latent light
I can see the 5700XT getting better performance over time like Polaris and Vega did
just from drivers
violet plank
true,still waiting for the navi 20 i guess
can't build my ryzen 3000 setup cause no fucking ram available here
latent light
1060 was marginally better than 580, now 580 is marginally better than 1060
1070 was marginally better than Vega 56, now Vega 56 trades blows with 1070Ti and 2060
I think AMD is a great option for people who like to keep a PC for 2-3 years because they will get better performance over time from driver updates
supple bane
or for people that want to save some money
prime jasper
what do you have now?
sour ivy
Is amd optimization bad tho? My friend told me that
latent light
no lol
prime jasper
certain games run better on AMD, some run better on Nvidia, its always been that way
latent light
even the regular 5700 is a big step up from the 1060
@sour ivy what cpu do you have and what games do you play
sour ivy
2600x
Battlefield and r6
I’d like to get 144 FPS in both
I was also looking at picking up a used 1070ti for around 300
Right now I’m suffering with around 75 FPS average on Bfv
With huge dips
@latent light
prime jasper
what resolution?
sour ivy
1080
prime jasper
yeah you wont be getting 144 on that setup, but it will definitely be better than what you are now
prime jasper
1080 leans more heavily on your CPU
sour ivy
And my cpu is good I thought
sour ivy
Yeah but on low I wouldn’t get 144 1080p
prime jasper
maybe on low
latent light
@sour ivy BFV has bad optimization
prime jasper
definitely not high/ultra
latent light
Jackfrags and Levelcap complain about performance on every video they make lately lol
latent light
stutter will always be present
getting a better graphics card will give you higher average fps though
5700XT can do 130-140 fps at ultra settings
maybe a little higher
sour ivy
What about 1070ti
latent light
1070Ti isn't worth it at all
probably worst GPU anyone could ever buy for the price
unless you find a used one for $200
Also, Vega 56 will destroy the 1070Ti in BFV
sour ivy
Ok
prime jasper
you should also be using dx12 which favors Ryzen @sour ivy
sour ivy
Oh really
I wasn’t
So that’s good to know. Maybe I’ll get stable FPS on that and won’t need to upgrade 😃
By stable I mean more stable than this
prime jasper
worth a shot
light portal
I keep trying to join squads and every time i join a squad that is clearly 3/4 it kicks me from the server for some reason and it says the notif (Squad is full) is this another bug or do I just restart BFV if i want to get rid of this bull
sour ivy
I don’t know if this is tech related 😛
prime jasper
a restart might help
sour ivy
But ya restart
hoary ember
need help
my gpu usage is stuck at 60 percent in forza horizon 4
that's why it is freezing i think
latent light
what's your hardware specs
hoary ember
r5 2600 and rx590
latent light
is forza the only game with problems?
latent light
Ryzen with single channel ram is a no-go
latent light
try different GPU drivers?
prime jasper
What settings do you think i can run BFV on? I got a AMD RX 580 8GB, AMD Ryzen 5 1400 CPU, 8GB RAM (plan to get another stick in future)
Med/High?
storm osprey
you can run whatever, just depends what fps you want
sour ivy
Ram gonna fuck you
supple bane
probs med/low
mostly because of the ram
once you get more in dual channel, you will play high maybe ultra
sour ivy
Download more ram
latent light
@prime jasper if you only have 1 stick of ram, wouldn't even bother
sour ivy
What about 3 sticks of ram
latent light
single channel would struggle to even get 60 fps
sour ivy
What
prime jasper
guess i will wait on getting bfv then
sour ivy
Game is trash either way
molten bramble
😮 This isn’t what I bought, it’s actually the one with the upgraded airflow fan as well. Amazon done fucked up, got me more for $200 less. 😁
molten bramble
Very nice.
lost venture
steep gust
@molten bramble You aren't exactly suppose to keep them unless they tell you
Generally they tell you if you can keep wrong packages
storm osprey
afaik you have no obligation by law to return products that were sent to you whether you paid for them or not
found/read this
seems like hydra could even say they never delivered his item, and ask for it sent
if they point out the ram he just got from them he can classify it as an "unconditional gift"
molten bramble
Amazon owes me about $580 in merchandise or refunds over the last three years... I'll consider this part of payment due.
😉
storm osprey
how tf do they owe you 580?
molten bramble
I have a number of at-length missing items and disputed items. Long story.
I had to threaten eBay with a notice from my attorney one time to get them to settle a payment issue as well.
storm osprey
i always get sent the correct shit, while nice since im not having the hassle of getting a lesser product, i always hear of people getting better shit
molten bramble
For the most part, I have had good service from Amazon, but the most recent issue that I had to get a refund for was a license plate holder for one of my vehicles that screws into the tow-ring--turns out it wasn't the vehicle it was for, but that was more of the manufacturer's issue than Amazon's.
storm osprey
had a friend get sent 2 expensive monitors instead of 1
molten bramble
We have a lot of packages go missing around here as well, big theft ring.
storm osprey
ouch
i thought i lived in a sort of bad neighborhood, but ive never had a package go missing in 5 years
and i get probably 2 packages a week
molten bramble
My neighbor ordered two brand-new $1,200 bicycles. Never arrived.
storm osprey
ouch
latent light
Never heard of packages being stolen where I live
But everyone here has a massive yard
You can't even see my porch from the road
storm osprey
oh ye youre in texas
prime jasper
steel
storm osprey
everyone has a fucking gun there
thats right, they turned the package into steel killa
prime jasper
he doenst have minimum 3 guns per member of the household
you might as well revoke your citizenship, aint doing you no good
steep gust
@storm osprey Its still manslaughter in texas
You can't shoot someone in any state for robbery or trespassing
storm osprey
im sure there is some defend your ground bs
steep gust
You have to have a threat to your life
prime jasper
some states allow you to use deadly force to stop a felony in progress....robbery would definitely be up there
storm osprey
its texas, everyone has a gun
prime jasper
lol
latent light
A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.
the Texas law
prime jasper
well thats yeehaw there
storm osprey
there it is
yeehaw
i mean, all those trespassers will be shot signs probably have some legal backing
and texas proves that
prime jasper
muh guns, muh heat, muh dont mess with texas!
storm osprey
so we learned betrayed doesnt know about the laws
prime jasper
considering every state is different its damn near impossible to keep up with that
storm osprey
its texas
prime jasper
its a mess
storm osprey
how could you not assume they have some super friendly human hunting laws
latent light
I think there's some countries in Africa that allow people to hunt poachers
to protect endangered species
storm osprey
good
coarse nimbus
Poach the poacher 
latent light
prime jasper
Im pretty sure if you yeet some poachers in the backwaters of Africa aint nobody gonna find out
coarse nimbus
also id say package theft is a high enough occurrence to warrant that former NASA dude on youtube to build the anti stealing rig
storm osprey
just saw a zebra shot them
prime jasper
@coarse nimbus I saw that video, that was damn funny
storm osprey
hes lucky they didnt keep the 4 phones he put in them
coarse nimbus
glitter is scary af though..unless they have changed it from back in the day I remember being in like third grade art class and the old teacher there would tell us dont get it in your eye because it will fuck you up
latent light
It’s illegal in Texas to shoot across a road, but if you are on your land, and they are on your land, and there’s no public road between, the act of taking a shot wouldn’t be illegal (under state law, local law may have noise or other ordinance).
coarse nimbus
"well theres no law against shooting the bastard but were gunna have to give you a ticket for not using a silencer"
prime jasper
thats exactly why you have a healthy stock of solven--I mean suppressors 👼
latent light
basically if a thief is on a public road near your property, it's illegal to shoot them
latent light
it's illegal to shoot fleeing trespassers
coarse nimbus
just had a piece of grass from your yard that you can pull up to them...then its your property 
prime jasper
lmao perfect
latent light
but if they steal something, you can shoot them, until they are on public property
storm osprey
so if they drop package, you shoot them, just move the package next to their body
latent light
storm osprey
or just carry around a package that you place next to all the trespassers you shoot
prime jasper
now thats some powerful autism, I like it
storm osprey
yeehaw
prime jasper
on todays episode of "Unethical Life Pro Tips"
storm osprey
i wish that youtuber dude was my uncle
prime jasper
I wish you were my uncle
storm osprey
lol i feel like youre older than me
prime jasper
thats not the right attitude, Uncle Nyphon
molten bramble
Badaboom.
storm osprey
dayumm
latent light
only running at 2133?
molten bramble
Dayum son, I just installed these fuckers
Can I get shit going first? Maybe make sure I don't crash? 😄
latent light
prime jasper
xmp breh
molten bramble
Well that's good. Running stable, no hiccups.
steep gust
@molten bramble check your vccsa / vccio voltages
Also 2t that's an oof
or soc if on ryzen
latent light
my command rate is stuck at 1T
can't change it back to 2T
so I can't run at 3000 MHz anymore
molten bramble
@steep gust recommendations?
steep gust
1.15v VCCIO / VCCSA
steep gust
If you want
molten bramble
Okay, I'll switch it up. I don't see any reason not to. This is still being incrementally upped anyways as I make sure nothing breaks.
molten bramble
Didn’t like 1.15V, 2x crash—going to push it to 1.2V.
molten bramble
This is 3200
molten bramble
It was sitting at 1.36V earlier.
molten bramble
However, Anandtech got everything at 1.2V until the 5Ghz range OC.
molten bramble
MSI MEG Z390 ACE Overclocking Performance.JPG 1,202×690 pixels
It might be unsafe, but that was the auto profile for 4.6Ghz loaded to bios.
Comes from MSI that way on Game Boost 4.
Okay, it seems happy at 1.25V atm. I'll keep observing.
Nope... just crashed. LOL
Just going to reset to auto for now, deal with it tomorrow. I have work to do.
latent light
Undervolting my RX 580 from 1150mV to 1050mV gave me a minor performance increase
How does that work
molten bramble
Fucking A Windows 10 is now shitting itself every 60 seconds into the load.
lofty light
latent light
molten bramble
LOL, imagine breaking in safe mode.
steep gust
@latent light thermals allow it to boost higher
@lofty light wait a second, is the CPU idle voltage lower than load voltage?
That's fucking bad
lofty light
It's like the undervolting for the new Zen 2 processors is meant to boost perf by a couple percent
molten bramble
Okay, remember this as the baseline with generic BIOS GameBoost 4 and XMP enabled. Everything is running stable again for the moment:
Posting just in case I need to come hunting for it later.
steep gust
I would look into doing a manual OC instead of auto motherboard
It's not terribly hard, just time consuming
supple bane
what are the "audio subsystems" in discord voice and video settings ? just wondering what they change
prime jasper
youve got something wrong then
wouldnt be surprised if you had DXR on which would murder your fps
sour ivy
Is that ray tracing
prime jasper
yes
sour ivy
I have a 1060
sour ivy
Alright I’ll check
prime jasper
make sure vsync is off too
sour ivy
It’s the same lag when on or off
prime jasper
also Nvidia just released a new driver, make sure its up to date
also turn on "gpu memory restriction"
sour ivy
Damn the game really using 6gb of vram on low settings?
prime jasper
aint that the truth
sour ivy
But it would probably still stutter
supple bane
wait, whats your issue and whats your specs ?
sour ivy
Just shit FPS and lag spikes
supple bane
and specs ?
sour ivy
2600x and 1060 6gb
supple bane
ram?
prime jasper
thats...odd
sour ivy
Yes it is
prime jasper
Im guessing they arent matched
sour ivy
2 of them are
supple bane
that might be the issue tbf
sour ivy
😉
supple bane
do you have them in the right slots on your motherboard to engage dual channel ?
prime jasper
that doesnt matter if its a mix n match
thats causes issues especially with different speeds/timings
it forces the JEDEC defaults
supple bane
maybe
supple bane
yes that would be better
prime jasper
yes, dual channel matching is going to be better
supple bane
and make sure that they are in the right slots to use dual channel
what motherboard do you have ?
prime jasper
make sure you pull the xmp profile as well
supple bane
ok, so make sure you put the ram 2 and 4th slot
sour ivy
Bet
prime jasper
Asus calls xmp something different. Under your 'AI tweaker' settings in bios you will see a drop down for 'AI overlclock tuner'
use that to select the RAM profile which you will see
sour ivy
So even though it’s an extra 4 gb of ram it’s making my performance worse?
supple bane
i have never enabled xmp. ik that it changes your timings, but iirc doesnt it only really make a difference on high end ram ?
yes because your timings are most likley out of wack
prime jasper
and if you arent pulling the XMP profile you arent running at their factory rated speed
sour ivy
The slowest ram in the setup is 2400
supple bane
wait so the 3 sticks of ram dont even have the same speed ?
prime jasper
yikes
sour ivy
Sorry the matching kits are 2133
prime jasper
did you carry those over from an old build?
sour ivy
Other one 2400
prime jasper
either way you really need better RAM
sour ivy
No it was my original ram
sour ivy
Oh shit ram is cheap now
prime jasper
this list is a good start, its the QVL from the manufacturer https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/TUF_X470-PLUS-GAMING/Memory_QVL_For_Ryzen_1st_Gen_Processors.pdf
sour ivy
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YYgoDb4RR1CR5
Is this ok
prime jasper
look at the list I sent you, see if it matches
supple bane
wait, @prime jasper should i enable xmp then, i have never bothered as i thought it only mattered on high end ram
prime jasper
@supple bane RAM by default runs at it JEDEC which is 2133/2400 usually
supple bane
well mine is 2133 mhz
prime jasper
the factory overclock doesn not apply unless you set it at the BIOS
supple bane
thats why i didnt think it applied to me
prime jasper
but yes in that case it doesnt
sour ivy
Ok it’s compatible
prime jasper
I assumed you had better
supple bane
nope
sour ivy
So like how much of an FPS boost should I expect do you think
prime jasper
it will be much more stable if nothing else
just ONLY have that matching pair
nothing else in it
supple bane
you do have dx 12 off right ?
sour ivy
I’ll selll the ram then
prime jasper
again, make sure you follow my instructions to pull the XMP @sour ivy , you must set it yourself in the BIOS
prime jasper
nice
prime jasper
yup thats a big oof
sour ivy
Didn’t realize it was that important
Just thought it dropped the speed to the lowest ram stick speed
prime jasper
for watching videos and playing minesweeper? doesnt matter
for gaming? its crucial
it does drop the speed, which is terrible for games, especially on Ryzen
prime jasper
will certainly help
sour ivy
When I say stable I mean as stable as everyone else is
Cuz ik this game has crazy drops for everyone
prime jasper
even I still get stutters and hiccups, its apparently being smoothed out a bit in the next patch
azure scroll
Battlefield 1
Low settings lagging really hard
Any solution?
sour ivy
Specs? @azure scroll
azure scroll
Ryzen 3 1200 OC to @3.7ghz
GTX 1060 3GB OC
8gb ram @2400mhz
Getting average of 18fps
sour ivy
Are you on dx12 @azure scroll
azure scroll
Nope
sour ivy
Motion blur?
azure scroll
Nah
sour ivy
HDR?
azure scroll
Nope
sour ivy
What’s render scaling at
azure scroll
Tried various scales
sour ivy
200% is unplayable for a 1060
azure scroll
It lags the same on 50%
storm osprey
you do 100% scale
azure scroll
Ryzen 3 1200 OC to 3.7 ghz
azure scroll
Around 60
sour ivy
Under load? Or is that a guess
azure scroll
Yeah
azure scroll
Off
sour ivy
Just send me a screenshot of your settings
sour ivy
??
latent light
do you have single or dual channel ram
azure scroll
Single
latent light
that's probably why
Ryzen doesn't do well with only 1 stick of ram
single channel only provides half the bandwidth
sour ivy
Use gyazo
latent light
also, playing on low settings with a fully adequate GPU creates a huge CPU bottleneck
azure scroll
Look the links
latent light
try playing on high settings
sour ivy
It wants me to sign in lol
azure scroll
Worse on high settings
latent light
my old Fx-8350 and GTX 770 build could run BF1 on medium settings and get over 60 fps lol
latent light
try this: repair game files
azure scroll
I reinstalled the whole game
latent light
maybe a file was corrupted in the download/installation process of the game
latent light
download MSI Afterburner with RivaTuner
azure scroll
I have those
latent light
RivaTuner comes as a checkbox during the install of Afterburner
what's your CPU, GPU and RAM usage
it's very evident your GPU usage is low if you're only getting ~20 fps lol
steep gust
lots of reasons for that one
azure scroll
Cpu 99%
Gpu:-
Around 45% in game
Sometimes 75%
sour ivy
Well there ya go
azure scroll
Mostly 45%
sour ivy
Yup
azure scroll
Or 50
latent light
I think having 8GB single channel is the biggest problem
latent light
weird because 4 cores is enough for BF1
even a 2 core 4 thread CPU like the Pentium G4560 gets respectable performance in BF1
azure scroll
So what can I do now?
I'v seen many people running with the same processor and 8gig ram smoothly on ultra
And getting around 60fps
primal geyser
Origin launches but doesn't load anything
I tried clearing the cache
but still
Has anybody experienced this before?
I'm afraid that I am not going to be able to update Battlefield V.
azure scroll
@primal geyser
It happened with me
primal geyser
I guess it happened with everybody before
azure scroll
Uninstall origin
Run windows cleanup or clean master
Then reinstall
latent light
https://www.userbenchmark.com/ @azure scroll go here and download it, benchmark your PC, make sure to have nothing else open when running the benchmark
just using this to find out more about your PC lol
post the info when you're done
primal geyser
@azure scroll What is windows cleaner?
azure scroll
It will clear all Ur temp files
azure scroll
just type disk cleanup in search bar of windows
primal geyser
It's about Origin
azure scroll
@latent light
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18691699
latent light
that 120GB drive
is it an SSD
because based on its speeds, it's slower than your HDD lmao
having an OS or a game on a slow drive can impact performance
something is definitely wrong with that 120GB drive though
whatever it is
azure scroll
No drive issue for sure
azure scroll
What else can I do to fix?
prime jasper
update all drivers/bios and update windows
swift eagle
Guys 5700 XT or the one not XT
And ryzen 3600 can run this game on ultra on 1080p and 1440p? With 60 fps
prime jasper
more than 60 lol
swift eagle
Btw with how much i5 3570 and GTX 1050 should have FPS on low with 1080p? Because i have 30-40 but with much drops and i dont think its ok
sour ivy
Less than 30
swift eagle
I need to get money first
So i can wait
And something is wrong with overclocking my gpu
I overclock it menu in game work normal
prime jasper
youre below minimum spec on that setup
swift eagle
But when i want to join game screen turn off and graphic fans go very sloe
Slow
Nice job by my parents then
prime jasper
lol
serene glacier
Can someone help me out? I have a fx 8320e 4.2 Ghz and a rx 580, but I cant play bf5 with normal fps. Sometimes I have just 40 fps. Its horrible.
swift eagle
They gave me this game as gift and dont even interest do the game work
swift eagle
Ye
prime jasper
@serene glacier you can try dx12 and see if that gets you anything more
swift eagle
They bought me this i5 only for 50$ because they thinked it will work
serene glacier
I tried already everything but I cant find a good spot
prime jasper
yeah both of you have CPUs below minimum spec, bummer
serene glacier
future frame rendering and so on
swift eagle
How much ram you have? Mine use 9gb on lowest graphic
serene glacier
16
prime jasper
this game also highly favors dual channel memory
swift eagle
I have 8 and 4 stick so i dont think dual channel even work better for me
prime jasper
yeah not on that sort of setup, you just need a whole new rebuild
swift eagle
I even have too bad psu
prime jasper
not surprising lol
swift eagle
I used calculator and i need 360w atleast but i have 350
prime jasper
even if you had a better PSU you're still way below specs
prime jasper
gift it back to your parents
prime jasper
whats your dad gonna play? minesweeper and bingo?
prime jasper
lmao my dad would have a stroke if he tried to play this
swift eagle
My dad like to Play games but dont have time
prime jasper
youre parents would have been far better off getting you a console
swift eagle
It was 250$ with game and it would work better
prime jasper
much better
swift eagle
Maybe 30fps too but on medium and without drops
prime jasper
sure beats 10 lol
swift eagle
In most need moments like when enemies shoot me these drops are insane
I can lower resolution but game will be unplayable and all these lags are because cpu
prime jasper
both your cpu and gpu suck
even if your cpu was fine the gpu couldnt keep up and vice versa
swift eagle
Why they didnt bought me an i7 and problem would be gone
prime jasper
your chipset has been dead for years so something tells me they didnt have much choice
swift eagle
Because i can have 3 gen Intel only
U dont know how much re salles of i7 3770 there is
prime jasper
depending on your board you might be able to get a xeon in it
but still you need to upgrade your gpu/psu even then
the whole system is lacking
swift eagle
Still mobo need to it have DDR3 RAM and 1600mhz max speeds
And i already have those 1600
prime jasper
but not even a matching set. 2x8 would be preferable
not worth the money though unless you can get these things dirt cheap
swift eagle
I dont even want to waste more money on it
swift eagle
Good think i can sell it for 300$
It will gave me money for new CPU and cooler atleast
prime jasper
thats hopeful but see if somebody bites
300 gets your a cpu/mobo combo
maybe RAM if its a great deal
swift eagle
I saw 250$ for pc with i5 2400 and 8gb of ram
swift eagle
With same card
I can even say card is new i bought it year ago and it have warranty still
prime jasper
thats good
sour ivy
I’m boutta sell my old i5 6500 and 960
prime jasper
oh, sounded like you were on a tight budget
swift eagle
i need to change cpu as fast and possible
this wont stay long
on these temps
so still i can get all the parts and use this 1050 for sometime
prime jasper
it aint gonna work too hot, but you might just get 30 with a better setup
sour ivy
1050 is tuff
swift eagle
btw i3 and i5 had other box coolers?
prime jasper
huh?
prime jasper
the coolers always sucked, it could be a paste issue too
prime jasper
the form factor of the mobo has nothing to do with the cooler being shit
you should have at least one exhaust fan though
prime jasper
no fans...ouch
prime jasper
doesnt make a difference when you have nothing but the pressure of your farts to push the hot air out of the case
prime jasper
lmao no surprise
prime jasper
better case and cooling will certainly help, just dont expect too much of a card thats minimum spec for the game
swift eagle
on lowest cpu is most time 90% and so much times hit the 100
and 60% on gpu usage
i tried the high settings the gpu gone 100% and cpu was 100% always
with i think 20-30fps
prime jasper
yup, normal especially with how weak the CPU is
the GPU will stay 100 with a new ryzen but the CPU load will be much lower
swift eagle
1050 is still better than my old gt 610
the worst thing you can imagine
freaking cs:go on lowest and 800x600 lagged sometimes
prime jasper
sell your soul for a new gpu lmao
prime jasper
lmao you better be playing at 4k with that
swift eagle
good thing i dont need to buy discs for new pc
prime jasper
wew yeah
swift eagle
BF V dont need to be on ssd right?
prime jasper
would be preferable
swift eagle
i have it on hdd now and dont have any problems
prime jasper
hoo boy youre gonna really enjoy putting it on an SSD then
swift eagle
i have ssd but only 60GB for OS
prime jasper
ouch