technology

[broken forge]

Thing is, I'm going to USA in some weeks maybe, so things are cheaper there than where I am living

[prime jasper]

probably

[broken forge]

So I gotta take advantage of that

[latent light]

I can't wait for AMD to launch a full RDNA card with 64 CU and a huge power delivery

[steep gust]

@broken forge USA is generally cheaper for electronics, so definitely keep an eye out

[violet roost]

Yo! Quick question. Do you guys know a good M.2 SSD, preferably 500GB?

[steep gust]

HP EX900 / 920

Assuming you meant NVMe

[violet roost]

Yep, NVME. :)

[violet roost]

Thanks btw :D

[latent light]

Ryzen 3 CPUs aren't going to come out since 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen 5 pretty much take their place

who would buy a 4 core Ryzen 3 3200 when you can buy a 6 core Ryzen 5 2600 for the same price

if they do make Ryzen 3 3000, I hope it has 4 cores and 8 threads

[lofty light]

@steep gust sorry for the tag mate but thought I'd ask, I'm looking at getting the cheapest possible setup for a 3900X upgrade where I don't plan on OC at least for a good while (can get a better mobo down the line for that) and have ended up with this. You have any thoughts on this with a 3900X? https://www.ple.com.au/Products/632883/MSI-B450-Gaming-Pro-Carbon-AC-AM4-ATX-Desktop-Motherboard-

[steep gust]

should be fine

a stock 3900x is ~100amps (140w total) max

[lofty light]

Was also looking at X470 but honestly I don't want the hassle of updating bios

Ah sweet

It's the one Buildzoid reccomended 😛

[steep gust]

ye if buildzoid recommends it, its generally good

I talk to him semi-often and he wouldn't recommend something you can't fully utilize the chips on

[lofty light]

👌

[lofty light]

Also you know if these are any good? Going the cheapest possible whilst still being 3000-3200 https://www.ple.com.au/Products/620611/Corsair-16GB-Kit-2x8GB-DDR4-Vengeance-LPX-Black-C15-3000MHz

[prime jasper]

I really like my ryzen 5 2600 😁

[jagged citrus]

I am going for a ryzen 3 2200g with a rx580 and 8gb ddr4 at 2666

Rx580 with 8gb vram

[lofty light]

That's a bit of a mismatch imo

A fairly weak CPU with a good midrange GPU

[prime jasper]

Belive it or not 2200g single core is the same and sometimes beats the 2700x and has stronger imc.

[prime jasper]

yeah I dont believe that lol

[vestal falcon]

You okay there famarino? @prime jasper

You from a different dimension? I'd love it if the 2200g was up to par with a 2700x

[prime jasper]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit

[prime jasper]

@vestal falcon yee it achieves 478 cpuz with 3200mhz dual rank dimms

The 2700x is 480 with the identical kit

Margin of error

single core meme in 2019

even so, its still 4c/4t trash

I mean I did say single core

[vestal falcon]

Synthetic benchmarks though

[prime jasper]

Single core is single core, but if you want gaming bench Mark's, then I guess well circle jerk around Intel

why? I dont have time since both my hands are occupied with Ryzen and Radeon

Damn that sucks

You do you, Dr. Su is my kind of suck

[coarse nimbus]

Nice to see you're learning the ways of how to act in tech

[supple bane]

could someone run me through how the rgb works on fans and shit, so far ik that the motherboard has a led header, and the fan must support your motherboards thingy, in my case rgb fusion. from what i can tell, my motherboard only has one led header, does this mean i can only have one rgb product? and what program would i use to customise it all if and when i get it working ?

[prime jasper]

the program would be company specific...Asus, MSI, etc all have their own software

[supple bane]

and what about the header situation ?

damn you can tell i have only been in pc gaming for little over a year

[prime jasper]

sounds like it would support only one RGB then, but you could use a splitter to get more attached to it.

[supple bane]

so lets say i dont connect the rgb cable that comes with the fan, they will all be on one set colour right ?

[prime jasper]

by default yes, until you get the syncing software up and running

or it may do some default rainbow pattern or some such like my board did

[supple bane]

ill look through my motherboards manual and see if i was right in saying that it only has one led header

its confusing as i can clearly see it says *LED-1

so the -1 would make me think there is more

but i cant find any

oh heheheh, there is 3, but one is hidden under my cooler, and the other is hidden behind a ram stick

[prime jasper]

lol

[steep gust]

@prime jasper 2200g in Zen, the 2700x on Zen+ has a better imc

[prime jasper]

Then say that to my boi that got dual rank hynix 3200mhz kit to work flawlessly at cr1 on his 2200g

[steep gust]

so 3200 16-16-18-18 1t?

That's not very good

[prime jasper]

At dual rank?

Yes

It is lol

[steep gust]

That means the IMC is shit

[prime jasper]

Wut? Dude most 2700x shit them selfs at dual rank 3200

well mine hasnt so I must have missed the memo

@prime jasper 32gb 2 stick kit works at 3200mhz cr1 on your 2700x?

oh I dont have a 32 kit, mines a 16 (8x2)

Dual rank is 16gb stick

It's much much harder on ryzen

Specially on cr1

Most cant pass 2933mhz

If they do its cr2

That's why I said, 2200g is actually good

Is on par with a tunned 2700x in games that dosnt use more than 4 cores

Which is 98%

Of games

well Im assuming anyone posting in this channel is going to be playing BF on it, in which case lol

[steep gust]

or you don't buy dual rank sticks to run on a 2200g

$150+ in RAM on your $50-80 CPU

[prime jasper]

I thought the same as well but seeing alot of AMD owners in here, I cant decide if there here for tech or bfv due to intel favoring bfv immensely

[steep gust]

2200g is garbage for gaming

4c 4t is not an enjoyable experience anymore

[prime jasper]

For some of todays games

Some

But for the majority

It's still king

And mostly used

[supple bane]

@prime jasper if i wasnt to use the rgb headers with the fans, would all default profiles they are set at be the same/synced ?

[steep gust]

they should all use the factory setting

[supple bane]

ok, would they be synced?

[prime jasper]

if they are the same brand/type then yes they all will be synced to the same factory settings

[supple bane]

cool, thanks

ik which fan and cooler im getting now then,

deep cool l120 and deepcool rf120 (x 3)

[prime jasper]

lol

[supple bane]

[jagged citrus]

Do you realise that not all of us can afford a 1-2k pc, right?

2200g is a great cheap cpu, one of the best

[prime jasper]

huh? theres a huge gulf between a 2200g and a 3900x

the fact is a 2200g is just bad for gaming, especially on BF

[jagged citrus]

3900x is fucking 500+

2200g is 80

We are talking about high end vs low end cpus here

Ofc 3900x will take a shit on 2200g

[prime jasper]

are you planning to play BFV on it? youre in for a world of hurt if so. something like a 2600 would be far better for that

[jagged citrus]

Went and bought them already, keeping the game at 100+ fps on very high

Its enough for me, I had a fix budget

[prime jasper]

@jagged citrus nice man, people need that. People have no clue how good the 2200g is

"Trash at gaming" litrally 2200g fucking ass rapes 2700x in most games

Not on bfv, but on his budget, it's perfect

within margin of error = assraping
really activates my almonds

Price 2 performance

Remember ayymds

Double edge sword

4c/4t dosnt take anything to cool it down

[storm osprey]

would be best to mention price to performance instead of a general statement

[steep gust]

remember that is comes with pretty much the small heatsink

and a 2700x isn't hard to cool

unlike all of Intel's offerings

[prime jasper]

Still need a beefy aio to beat a 2200g

@storm osprey google 0.3 seconds of your time

Shouldnt even be worth mentioning

[storm osprey]

being articulate could help

you said one thing when you meant another

you had to clarify

[prime jasper]

Are we just going to argue?

K

[storm osprey]

nothing to argue

[prime jasper]

Then stop

lets just leave it at the regular parade of people coming in here with some 4c/4t cpu (intel or amd) and complain about stutters and framedrops galore

On bfv

Yes

[storm osprey]

tbf they are talking about their BFV game in particular

[prime jasper]

right, hence where we are which is why Im saying what Im saying

[storm osprey]

but because there are thousands of old games and indies doesnt mean that a 4c/4t cpu is better than another cpu because it "rapes in most games"

case by case basis per usual

[prime jasper]

old games and most indies dont need more than 4c/4t so that is fair but yes if your aim is AAA games youre gonna get dusted

[steep gust]

@prime jasper you made the claim the 2200g beats the 2700x (or gets damn close) you have to find the benchmark to support it

[prime jasper]

https://www.ecrater.com/p/33790211/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-quad-core-35?gps=1&id=81021520219&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrK1juyDZ8B5zmgTSrbCkE-8zSp6FQjRVp68X1Jafii9_xje2RQZRmsaAnWtEALw_wcB

Heres a 1 second search

Of price 2 performance

60$

[steep gust]

uh

benchmark

[prime jasper]

Get the fuck off my screen

[storm osprey]

id pref pay the 35 bucks more for a 2600

[prime jasper]

https://www.ecrater.com/p/33790211/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-quad-core-35?gps=1&id=81021520219&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrK1juyDZ8B5zmgTSrbCkE-8zSp6FQjRVp68X1Jafii9_xje2RQZRmsaAnWtEALw_wcB

I gotta post again

Ffs

[storm osprey]

no idea what ecrater is

[steep gust]

You gotta find a benchmark to support your claim

[storm osprey]

with that, im not gonna use ecrater

[prime jasper]

So that's only a 45 min deal

200$

2600

[steep gust]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F

[storm osprey]

for 200 might as well get a 3600....

[steep gust]

$200 2700x

[prime jasper]

bro wtf https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F

Dont stop there, 230$ gets you a future performance of 9600k

how could that be the same price as a 2600

[steep gust]

9600k

[storm osprey]

2600 arent 200

[steep gust]

How's your shit thermals

[storm osprey]

havent been for a long time

[prime jasper]

@steep gust thermals are really good

Just 9900k is shit

[steep gust]

You are running a mora3

[prime jasper]

9600k on air

[steep gust]

Thermals better be fucking ambient

[prime jasper]

Air

Still gets 600 cpuz

Water is 664

Way faster than zen 2

For 30$ more

[steep gust]

and my 8600k can do 5.5 single core

so

and gets crushed in any multi threaded workload

[prime jasper]

Cool, we are talking about games

Not your 5 min work loads per month

[steep gust]

Cool games use more than one core

[prime jasper]

No shit, that's why theres 6

[steep gust]

and I can get 6c 12t

for the same cost

wait

cheaper

[prime jasper]

6c 12t slow cores

[steep gust]

motherboards are cheaper

[prime jasper]

[steep gust]

don't need a heatsink

So that's ~$100 saved

[prime jasper]

Hey double edge sword, remember the point I was making about price 2 performance

With the 2200g

Check mate

[steep gust]

I want a benchmark

They are hard to find aren't they

[prime jasper]

Yeah because ayymds dont want true price to performance

[steep gust]

Find me a benchmark of a 2200g vs a 2700x

[prime jasper]

You know that's not going to happen, you know we are in overclocking discord and your only trying to prove your point

In front of your friends

[steep gust]

This is the Battlefield server

not /r/overclocking

[prime jasper]

lmao

[steep gust]

You make the claim, you need to back it up

[prime jasper]

Betrayed if you dont know about the 2200g on single core

You need to step it up

[steep gust]

I couldn't find anything on the 2200g vs the 2700s

[prime jasper]

FUCKING LOOK

Fucking look

[steep gust]

I did

I got 2200g vs 2400g

2200g with a 1030 vs a similar intel machine

[prime jasper]

LOOK AT THE SINGLE CORE, I BACK UP MY SHIT ALL THE TIME AND YOU FUCKING ONOW IT

QUIT YOUR FUCKING SHIT

[steep gust]

Man I didn't want to do this

[prime jasper]

Fucking do it, we all can tell how edgy your getting

For 0 fucking reason

[steep gust]

More of the rules

[prime jasper]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3958vsm441832

And a ayymd post a user benchmark

Shits getting hysterical

[steep gust]

userbenchmark yikes

[prime jasper]

no idea where else youre looking

[supple bane]

tbf, for what the price is the 2200g is kinda good

[prime jasper]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3186vs3238

single thread rating there doesnt line up either

@prime jasper you gotta overclock it

That's why

Since low heat, memory controller scales

Its just basic knowledge of zen and betrayed knows this

[steep gust]

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/1

[prime jasper]

But for some reason he's ignoring

[steep gust]

417 2200g

466 2700x

[prime jasper]

Again, overclocking

Ffs

[steep gust]

most people don't overclock

That simple

[prime jasper]

Still does it

[vestal falcon]

[storm osprey]

so another condition is added "has to be overclocked"

[prime jasper]

well PBO does just that with zen+, manually overclocking is a different story

[steep gust]

Psycho should we compare your 4.9ghz 9900k

to a 5.3ghz 9700k?

[storm osprey]

went from "2200g beats 2700x for most games" to "in price to performance" and "has to be overclocked"

[prime jasper]

@storm osprey that was the argument the entire time

Just you never caught up here

[storm osprey]

that was your implied argument

[prime jasper]

I guess I need to explain it much much much much more simple for people since I'm not used to speaking in none overclocking discords

Forgot people dont know ryzen

How it works

[storm osprey]

its just a matter of what you said not lining up with what you meant

[prime jasper]

The less heat can accept faster ram, this is a main issue with ryzen

Was a clue I was hoping people picked up

[steep gust]

Psycho the only Zen CPU you owned was a 1920x

[prime jasper]

I owner way more

@steep gust you litrally dont know all my hardware

[steep gust]

The only one you seem to have used*

[prime jasper]

1950x, 1800x, 1920x

[vestal falcon]

I guess I need to explain it much much much much more simple for people since I'm not used to speaking in none overclocking discords

[prime jasper]

That's my ryzen line

[vestal falcon]

This golden

Statement

Of the century

[steep gust]

So threadripper and a garbage halo product

all on Zen

[prime jasper]

@steep gust I said it many many times

[steep gust]

Any Zen+ CPUs?

[prime jasper]

No since it's the same shit

[steep gust]

Its not

The IMC on Zen+ is way better

[prime jasper]

And my 1920x fucking destroyed all 12 core ryzen in hwbot

Same shit

[vestal falcon]

@steep gust Every time I look here, its always trolls/idiots talking to you

You okay famarino?

[steep gust]

Your 1920x you ran on chillers

[vestal falcon]

[steep gust]

[prime jasper]

Theres did as well

[steep gust]

also doesn't that 1920x now have a degraded imc

Since you rammed voltage

[prime jasper]

@vestal falcon we know each other and I'm far from being a troll

Fam

[storm osprey]

could have fooled all of us

[vestal falcon]

doesntruleouttheidiotaspectthoughreeeeeee

[steep gust]

Also isn't the 3900x taking all the 12 core globals on hwbot?

Outside of CPU freq

[prime jasper]

Only on a ninch 12 core hedt

Which no one binns

That's like winning the special Olympics

[steep gust]

you mean the one

That Splave got given from Intel

[storm osprey]

even predator suggests you are trolling

[prime jasper]

Hes just trying to protect me

[steep gust]

yeah uh

[prime jasper]

Because people dont pick up on things

Quickly

[steep gust]

a random 3900x

beat Splave's binned 7920x

by 6% in R15

[prime jasper]

Was his results from how many years ago? And this is 1 cpu correct?

[steep gust]

its 14nm

[prime jasper]

1 cpu from intel that we dont know if it was binned

[steep gust]

Its Splave

and looking at other 7920x runs

Its fucking golden

It beat Dancop's one by nearly 100mhz

Luumi's by 200mhz

[latent light]

[steep gust]

AIO in the custom loop case

yikes

[prime jasper]

That a x570 board? @latent light

on todays episode of 'overkill olympics'

[latent light]

[steep gust]

blower gpu

yikes

[latent light]

[steep gust]

360mm AIO

[storm osprey]

definition of a for the memes build

[steep gust]

big yikes

nah people legit do builds like that

[storm osprey]

i feel like they know its a meme/parody though

at least i hope

[latent light]

can you leave VRMs bare on a RX 580

[steep gust]

Depends

but wouldn't recommend

[latent light]

what if I put a fan only 1-2 inches away

[steep gust]

should be fine at stock

[pallid silo]

people are offering 250 pounds on ebay for my gtx 1080 is that what its worth? msi armour OC edition

[steep gust]

check sold ebay

I'm so glad I don't have money to waste

or I'd end up buying like 50+ CPUs off of ebay every other day for like $10 total

[latent light]

[random topaz]

ummm

what do we have here

[prime jasper]

[storm osprey]

they were asking for pc help in #general i think they just found the chat they really wants

[long sphinx]

holy shit https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3924703

fuck dem bios flash im getting dat

thats like the msrp of the cpu

[forest token]

not bad

[long sphinx]

still that board has the ALC892 which people says is really shit compared to 1221

wish buildzoid talked about this...

[steep gust]

That's not a great board

dude

do you really need someone to tell you?

Buildzoid isn't perfect and find information from more than one source

I mean if you can find the VRM component names you can do exactly what BZ does

[long sphinx]

he recomended that board thou

he loves to recomend msi products just sayin

correction he recomended the gaming pro carbon

[lofty light]

That's the one I'm getting

Because of his recommendation

[steep gust]

He won't recommend a bad board

but still gotta do your own research 😛

[lofty light]

That's true...

You know anything about RAM @steep gust?

Got a set I'm looking at for Zen 2 and not sure if it's good

[long sphinx]

get this https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331248

[lofty light]

I'm getting the cheapest stuff I can

Otherwise I wouldn't bother asking

[long sphinx]

id say thats a very good price quality ratio

[lofty light]

This specifically https://www.ple.com.au/Products/620611/Corsair-16GB-Kit-2x8GB-DDR4-Vengeance-LPX-Black-C15-3000MHz

Newegg postage is a killer for me

[long sphinx]

i see

[steep gust]

Its uh

CJR maybe

or AFR

IIRC

Corsair doesn't use Rev. E in their 3000cl15 kits as far as i know

[lofty light]

I know nothing about RAM at all

[steep gust]

its RAM

its fine

not a great bin

[lofty light]

But it's the cheapest stuff there that reaches 3000

[steep gust]

Its probably CJR

but if you are in the USA its not a great price

oh that's aus

oof

[long sphinx]

🙃

[lofty light]

THEY'RE COMING! FINALLY!!! https://www.ple.com.au/Products/636805/ASUS-ROG-Swift-PG35VQ-35-Ultrawide-QHD-G-SYNC-Curved-200Hz-2MS-HDR1000-VA-QLED-Gaming-Monitor?utm_source=frontpage&utm_source=web&utm_source=newproducts

These have been teased for what, 5 years now?

[steep gust]

Not enough bandwidth tho

You have to use chroma sub sampling

For 200hz

$3400 for a subpar experience

3440x1440 200hz with HDR pls

Displayport please stop being an slow

[lofty light]

That's somewhat disappointing then

But hey, the panels are here so we just need the port to catch up

I won't be buying one for many years anyhoo

[steep gust]

A 2080ti cant drive that

So you need a serious GPU setup

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 2600 only $120

doubt there will be a Ryzen 3 lineup with those kind of prices

[lofty light]

There are a couple Ryzen 3 APUs

[latent light]

Ryzen 3 3200G

[lofty light]

Ye

And the 3400G

[latent light]

12nm

[steep gust]

They aren't bad APUs

4c 8t with a not bad iGPU for $150 is a deal for a browser / older games system

[latent light]

emulator and home theatre too

[prime jasper]

I hear lots of people complain that emulators run like poo on AMD for some reason

[latent light]

emulators optimize for Nvidia because of popularity

Radeon cards will have stuttering issues on Cemu emulator

[violet plank]

great,seems like x570 fans are lottery,same brand/model/bios,one is quiet,the other loud AF

[latent light]

they should just release B550 already

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG8Bs2XmcZ8

there's speculation that Threadripper 3000 series will launch in October

[neat lion]

is origin down or is it just me ?

[wind laurel]

Still working for me.

[steep gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/600851237721735189/intel-comet-lake-lga-1159-1200-news-again-2.png if this is real

big oof

[latent light]

Q1 2020 AMD will already unveil a 4th gen Ryzen CPU

[lavish dagger]

14nm++++

[prime jasper]

does anyone know a fix for low fps in bf3 on a 2080 and i9 9900k?

[wanton prairie]

My friend suggested the gtx 1660 ti

[violet plank]

intel should fix their security holes first (the big ones at least) before throwing any shitty refresh's on the market...

think i'll buy a cheaper x570,rip out the chipset fan and replace it with a noctua

[supple bane]

@prime jasper define what your FPS is ? like what FPS are you actually getting

[violet roost]

Yo, I might have a small or complicated tech question.

For whatever reason, since this morning, is the rear (surround) speakers sound of my 5.1 set are coming through the subwoofer of my system.

I haven’t changed anything. Windows doesn’t show anything regarding driver change or other weird stuff.

Does somebody know what might be causing the issue?

[prime jasper]

reboot, try again

[steep gust]

Make sure everything is plugged in

[violet roost]

Yep, tried that multiple times.

I even reconnected the whole setup, and for some reason it still doesn’t want to work.

[supple bane]

maybe one of the cables is dead

[violet plank]

https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562838482/F4-3200C14D-16GTZN-Specification

release now

plz

[prime jasper]

that doesnt look any different than the kit I got last year

same speed and timings

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/167/1536717320/F4-3200C14D-16GTZRXTrident-Z-RGB-(For-AMD)DDR4-3200MHz-CL14-14-14-34-1.35V16GB-(2x8GB)

[storm osprey]

the 2 tone color though

[steep gust]

3200 14-14-14

lul

how about 3600 14-15-15-35 1.4v

Gonna be pricey but that's probably the best binned b-die

[violet plank]

the neo uses a new pcb design,if it's worth it,dunno

3200 cl14 and 3600 cl16 have the same performance so far,sweet spot

above 3788 the interfabric changes down to 2:1 clock rating

if i got that right from my memory

[latent light]

can 3rd gen ryzen run 3600 cl14

[steep gust]

yes

[storm osprey]

is that what they said is the "Sweet spot"

[steep gust]

3733cl16

was the sweet spot

the difference between 3600 cl16 and cl14 is tiny from people I talk to

I want 3600 cl14 to yeet volts into for 4133+ 12-11-11-28

[supple bane]

anyone know why my discord is automatically almost muted in the volume mixer everytime i boot my pc ?

its super annoying, and i have to change it everytime i come on

everytime i boot it is like this, so i have to change it all the time

[violet plank]

but you fuck up your memory latency going beyond 3733 @steep gust

or did i miss something

drops to 2:1

https://premiumbuilds.com/ram/best-ram-for-ryzen-3000/

[steep gust]

you can control the IF ratio

and control the actual speed of the IF (FCLK)

[violet plank]

but will it be stable ?

sounds like a lot of time for testing

[steep gust]

not really

[latent light]

Nvidia said there will be no 2080Ti Super

[steep gust]

doubt

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKkCVHtpKRU

did you see the 5700XT overclock with a waterblock

got to 2.2 GHz

turns out that the rumor for a 64 core Threadripper is likely going to happen

[wanton prairie]

Is the gtx 1660 Ti any good

[storm osprey]

yes

prices are kinda in a big shift though

[supple bane]

i would wait and see what happens with the prices

[storm osprey]

i saw a 2060 close to msrp of the 1660ti recently since the 2060 super came out

but that doesnt mean there wasnt a 1660ti sale that made it a better deal at the same time

[latent light]

wait a couple months for AMD to release lower end Navi

then maybe we will see price drops for the 1660ti

[supple bane]

the 2060 is still the same price here

[latent light]

5700 is 20% faster than 2060 for the same price

[supple bane]

even a mini card is 315 pound

[wanton prairie]

I'll go for the 1660 Ti for its performance

[supple bane]

it would be honestly better getting the 5700

[latent light]

5700 offers basically 2070 performance for only $350

even a lot more if you play BFV

[supple bane]

[storm osprey]

just wait for gpus from nvidia/asus/msi/etc for the 5700

if you on a budget under 350 then sure, 1660ti should be fine, but i would still be looking for sales

[supple bane]

i meannn, you could also get something second hand

you could get a second hand 1080 for the price of a new 1660ti

[storm osprey]

jesus christ that link

its 250

[wanton prairie]

Try and find me the same one but on amazon

[supple bane]

https://www.gumtree.com/p/video-cards-sound-cards/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-ftw3-11gb-gaming-graphics-card-black/1346515326

see, second hand is always an option

there is so many good deals to be had

[latent light]

what games do you plan on playing

[storm osprey]

beautiful time for pc gaming

[wanton prairie]

I play BFV

[storm osprey]

cheap ass ram, cheap ssd, gpus are competitive, cpu got a mix up

only thing is that psus are slightly higher than before right?

[latent light]

lol 5700 will match a 2080 in BFV

[storm osprey]

@wanton prairie budget?

[latent light]

BFV loves AMD

[supple bane]

they seem pretty much set on the 1660ti

[wanton prairie]

I'm saving up

[storm osprey]

well until we know budget we cant recommend really

[wanton prairie]

I guess £250

Budget

But It can go higher

[storm osprey]

and needs to come from amazon?

newegg doesnt charge tax for me, thats why i buy big ticket items from them

[wanton prairie]

Probably the best place to buy from

[violet roost]

Oh I fixed my speaker setup btw

I just gave it a good whack on the top and it worked... 👏

[prime jasper]

After viewing a benchmark the 5700 does in bfv, it clearly lost to the 1660

not the 1660ti

but the 1660

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_rx_5700_and_rx_5700_xt_review/5

bfv wasn't a big fan of amd for gpu's and specially cpu's

Why I was always confused why alot of amd people in here when bfv loves intel and nvidia

[steep gust]

because bfv bad

and you should be able to max fps bf3 / bf4 without a problem

[prime jasper]

5700 appears to trade blows with 2060 super on that graph

the radeon 7 is an atrocious showing, I have a hard time believing that

[steep gust]

radeon 7 should beat vega 64

5700xt should beat vega 64

and why is there like 5 different 2080ti

[prime jasper]

inb4 ayymd's says this graph is rigged

also recent drivers are slower in games

so you gotta wait for another patch driver for 5700

@wanton prairie 1660ti is the much better choice

oh Im not saying its rigged but the 5700 is in the thick of it at its price point

not a bad deal

and a shit cooler at that

[coarse nimbus]

how does a 5700 even ship with a shit cooler...did they not stress it at all

[steep gust]

AMD went deaf after the 290x

[forest token]

well I'm seeingh reviews where the 5700 xt is beating the rtx 2080 in bfv

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

guru3d, techspot, techpowerup as examples, so that oc3d result is confusing

[vestal falcon]

$400 GPU beating NGREEDIAs $700 card? NICE

Am I reading that correctly, & seeing these benchmarks right?

I sure hope so, because if so.. AMD has my money, been waiting for a high tier card that isn't massively over priced since the start of the year

[steep gust]

uh

one game

[vestal falcon]

2080 is still winning in these games, but for what it costs vs what little boost the 2080 gives for its price.. 5700XT all the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l9FjSLf6sg

[latent light]

Vega 56 matches RTX 2070 in BFV

https://youtu.be/en_2h9NnXHM?t=240

RX 5700 beating RTX 2060 Super in BFV by around 15%

[vestal falcon]

OOF, why is the Ryzen 7 3700x now $400+ ?

I thought it was $329?

[coarse nimbus]

high demand low supply?

[latent light]

yeah they pretty much sold out

they are $330 at best buy

and B&H

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5pHUHGZ7hU

[hardy void]

bfv will not stop throwing me in empty servers fuck this piece of shit game

[supple bane]

im glad you think that

now @hardy void , go cry somewhere else, this isnt your personal complain server

[steep gust]

It's also tech

[vestal falcon]

Looks nice but the chance for stuff to get in the mouse & get stuck seems too large

Meanwhile I'm just waiting on my new Naga Trinity mouse to get here
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0788MCRGC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[storm osprey]

hole mice have been around for a while now, technically for a long time, but finalmouse made them popular. i havent heard complaints

[vestal falcon]

I have a RGB Sabre which is about 100 grams currently, only 33 grams heavier, & it feels perfect for me, but oh well

It does look nice though

[storm osprey]

33g is a lot

[soft pecan]

Hey guys it may sounds weird but the apex legends changed the RBG light settings on my cheap mechanical kb with RBG LED and it doesn't have software to change it back or format the memory. Some keys didn't light up now which is a bit annoying. Does anyone have a solution?

[supple bane]

my friend ordered a model O

it will be here in a few days

@soft pecan if it doesnt have software, then probs not

[storm osprey]

tell him to cancel and get the small one

[soft pecan]

ok thanks bro

[storm osprey]

https://wccftech.com/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-5700-challenger-series-custom-navi-graphics-card-launch/

[long sphinx]

yellow? u srs?

just the right gpu for my DFI board

[wind laurel]

Didn't even know ASRock did gpus lol.

[latent light]

look at how many heatpipes there are under the fans

you can see gaps in the heatsink fins though

just from looking at the back of the card

[steep gust]

gaps are required for proper airflow

and making the gap super small makes manufacturing cost a lot

[solid summit]

hey. new player here. is there something specific i need to do for BFV to get rid of the bad framerate icons? i have a 1060 3gb, 16gb of RAM, and an i7-6700k and can't really play because of the frame rate on lowest settings. advice?

[storm osprey]

uhh theres no bfv bad fps icons

thats network shit

[solid summit]

yeah its several frames stacked. https://i.redd.it/bsb1tow82hb21.png

i'm getting both the latency ones occasionally and the low framerate one consistently

[rain quartz]

Anyone else think number three is the only practical one?

[wind laurel]

Nah, go with 4: submerge the entire thing in icy cold water.

[coarse nimbus]

be like the people at linus' channel and hook up a closed loop to the faucet so the water is constantly refreshed and cool

[steep gust]

closed loop

uh having the faucet constantly dumping water through the loop then dumping it into the other sink isn't closed

[coarse nimbus]

Shocking you would have to be smarmy about this

Perhaps I used the term closed loop because its easy to understand whats being talked about

[steep gust]

its also wrong

They were using what

120L/Hr?

[coarse nimbus]

Well you would know about being wrong

[safe meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531070409152397324/601562648571543573/76f9275.gif

[lofty light]

I really really want to buy a server cabinet for my house, just so my networking setup looks good

And a rack mountable case for my server, which is an additional $250 on top of the $350 for a cabinet

[lost venture]

just dew it

[lofty light]

But I just bought a 3900X and mobo/RAM so I'm poor

[lost venture]

[lofty light]

Pulled the trigger on these though

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/601706722117287956/20190719_052725.jpg

friends 3600X is at 1.44v stock

[lofty light]

Oh god

What mobo

ASRock?

[latent light]

yeah

X570 steel legend

[lofty light]

I feel good that I got ASUS then

[supple bane]

surely that would be dangerous if someone who didn’t know their shit got one of them, does it come with a stock cooler? if so a normal user could just use the stock cooler and fry the chip, I highly doubt stock would keep it cool at 1.4v

[lofty light]

They all come with stock coolers

[latent light]

It's just spiking to 1.44v

[lofty light]

And they're pretty good actually

[latent light]

It goes between 1.1v and 1.44v

[lofty light]

Is that spike with that performance boost thingy GN covered yesterday?

[latent light]

It does 1.1v at 3838 MHz

Yeah performance boost

[lofty light]

Ye

Like NVIDIA GPUs but on an AMD CPU

[slate rivet]

Need recommendations for a monitor with built in speakers

Please @ me

[supple bane]

eew, built in speakers

[prime jasper]

probably looking for more of a business class monitor anyway

[prime jasper]

anyone got recommendations for cpu im upgrading from 5820k was looking at i9 anyone got alternatives? pros or cons?

depends on your budget and intended use

gaming + a bit of streaming/recording and im uk so up to £500 for cpu

i only need cpu and mobo gona use ram that i have

the only alternatives to an i9 are Ryzen equivalents

ok which ones? i was curious about ryzen never used amd

Im not sure how prices are over there

[mortal nacelle]

rip

[supple bane]

the ryzen 9 3900x is probs the best.

it will shred any i9

and is half the price

[prime jasper]

ok cool ill look em up

[supple bane]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3900x

according to userbenchmark it is the second most powerful cpu on the market

[storm osprey]

pure gaming intel wins, start streaming or doing anything else, amd wins

i personally would get the 3700x

[prime jasper]

ok cheers

there's no new releases coming up is there? affecting price?

[supple bane]

not for a while no

iirc next main bunch of chips will be intel in 2022, but dont quote me on that

[storm osprey]

theres no rumors that i know of outside of a couple years from intel

[prime jasper]

ok that sounds good then gonna read up an what you guys have said thanks for the help

maby next month ill be upgrading gpu to match lol

[supple bane]

if you get the 3900x, good luck getting that lol

jk jk,

that was an over exaggeration

i made the switch to amd too, so im a huge fan boi now

[prime jasper]

well im trying to be open minded iv always been with intel but just want best for my cash

with either option you'd get better performance with RAM faster than you have

[supple bane]

what ram speed does he have ?

[prime jasper]

considering its a 5820k Im guessing not great

i have corsair vengance 3000mhz but i cant use xmp on my currant setup so i guess its running 2000mhz or somthing

ah ok, then it should be able to run 3000 xmp on a newer board

its probably at 2133 jedec now

i could never get it to work and didnt want to mess with timings manually

[coarse nimbus]

@latent light didn't Jay have a video about how the asus board they had...had all the voltages fucked up and way too high?

[cloud lake]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdQ7d6 any good NOT going for DDR4 just yet got some DDR3 ram recently and VR then board decides to die @prime jasper sat on it so I blame them 😛 hides from flying knifes

[storm osprey]

137 for an 8350

oof

you can get a 2600 for cheaper...

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gHD4KB

@cloud lake

id spend the 15 bucks more and get MUCH better stuff

sell that ram you just got to offset

[latent light]

yeah double the fps

[steep gust]

uh

I can find 8350s for way cheaper than 137

[latent light]

yeah lol

used ones for like 30

20-30

Ryzen 3 1200 only $60

damn bruh

rip Pentium

[steep gust]

I might buy a bunch of 8370s and a crosshair 5 formula

go for 8ghz

[prime jasper]

stocking up on ln2?

[steep gust]

LN2 is cheap

Buying a pot and finding a rare board is the most expensive part

[prime jasper]

lol Mad

you wanted to buy a VR, hell thats like another system needed from DDR3

[latent light]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L832tg

~$450 build

[steep gust]

You can get 16GB for like $10 more

[latent light]

will it be fast

[cloud lake]

I brought VR @prime jasper cheapish for a vive lol had some stuff saved up in vouchers

[prime jasper]

its a whole nother step up of PC

nothing on my rig now deserves to be on that PC I would need for the next gen

needs a totally new setup

[storm osprey]

dont need to upgrade all at once

[cloud lake]

@prime jasper just buy the cheap stuff first then save up for big stuff later on

[steep gust]

Nah

The cheaper stuff generally gets cheaper (RAM, etc)

While old Zen / Zen+ CPUs will sell out eventually

Polaris GPUs are probably out of production

[prime jasper]

yeah exactly

[steep gust]

Also if something is DOA

And you have to wait months

[prime jasper]

thats why I said, my whole rig needs a ground up upgrade

[storm osprey]

whatever you do, dont get the first link

[steep gust]

You will eventually be sol

Also I generally recommend you spend more on a PSU

Buy a good one with some headroom

[prime jasper]

even the PSU

[steep gust]

Keep it for 10-15 years

[prime jasper]

my monitor is 8 years old

its got to go

[steep gust]

Power draw has mostly gone done for hardware

So big PSUs aren't really needed

[cloud lake]

my PSU is 850watt corsair got it cheap a few years back they wanted to get rid of the stock

[supple bane]

anyone got opinions on the SteelSeries Siberia Elite?

[cloud lake]

8 year old screen damn, you can sell that if u where in england to CeX for some £££ back but NEVER BUY from them brought phone 2 years ago there kept crashing and they refused to deal with it

[latent light]

a 450W bronze psu is $50....

I got my 650W for $40 a few years ago and it wasn't even on sale

[storm osprey]

psu the only thing going up in prices atm it seems

[latent light]

RAM and SSD prices are about to go up by 10-15% because of trade embargo between Japan and Korea

[prime jasper]

Everytime I try to record in 4k HDR on my ps4

I always get hit with this message "colors may appear differently due to HDR"

How do I fix this?

turn off hdr?

It would reset back to 1080p

[lofty light]

@prime jasper sorry for the late reply mate, but I just bought a 3900X to upgrade from my own 5820K

[alpine haven]

@latent light And the fire that bricked a factory.

[quartz whale]

So I've made sure my 9600K @ 4.9 was stable at 1.365 passed realbench for 8 hrs then this appeared in my event viewer: A corrected hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Corrected Machine Check
Error Type: Internal parity error
Processor APIC ID: 6

The details view of this entry contains further information.

No BSOD nothing only showed 1 CPU internal error in HWINFO ..

[latent light]

might need more voltage

so only 1 core

[quartz whale]

1.370 for 4.9 yuck such a shit chip I have here.

[latent light]

I seen a 8700K that couldn't get to 4.8 GHz before

[quartz whale]

Really?

What voltage?

[latent light]

think they tried 1.4v

[quartz whale]

Jesus

[latent light]

I remember sandy bridge had a lot of bad lottery chips

[quartz whale]

Yeah sandy did

What LLC should I use I have it set too turbo rn

[latent light]

my brother's 8700K does 5.2 GHz at 1.36v

[quartz whale]

Lucky

[latent light]

it's also delidded and has a copper IHS

[quartz whale]

I set 1.370 sometimes goes to 1.380 but mostly hovers around 1.368 is this good?

[latent light]

if watercooled then yes

or have a big air cooler

[quartz whale]

I have D15

[latent light]

yeah that's a really big cooler

[quartz whale]

So normal?

I'm guessing so yes

[latent light]

yes

[quartz whale]

@latent light couldn't I do core by core testing? Maybe some can handle 5ghz then some cant?

[latent light]

yes

if your motherboard lets you clock each core

[quartz whale]

Yes I can

[prime jasper]

I can smell some NERDS here!

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

NERD ENTERS THE CHAT

[serene gull]

anyone know why my mic cant be picked up

on bf v

literally it works and everything but i cant talk in bf v

[supple bane]

are you pressing the push to talk key ?

[serene gull]

yes

pressing left ctrl

no speaking

coming out

i made sure the headset thing on my mic isnt muted

[supple bane]

unless you rebound it, it isnt less ctrl, its left alt

[serene gull]

i meant left alt

mb

[supple bane]

check audio setting , there may be an option to disable voice

also how do you know that there isnt any sound coming from your mic ?

do you have a friend telling you ?

if so, he may have voice disabled in his settings

[serene gull]

i can tell because theres no volume button next to my name

in the game

[supple bane]

well then thats an issue with the push to talk button

[serene gull]

my mic etc works in discord all my other games

yet not this hmm

[supple bane]

because as soon as you press the ptt the little icon appears, even if no sound comes through, so that means your ptt isnt working, you mic is fine

try rebinding the ptt to something else

[serene gull]

ok ill try rebinding it

rebinding it didnt work

[supple bane]

i tell you, your mic is fine, if the little icon isnt appearing it means you arent activating the in game voice,

just google it, "when i press the ptt button, the volume icon doesnt appear bfv"

or

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[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAGQwWDyURI

[lofty light]

Ah, so I should buy that one then

[latent light]

radeon anti-lag tested

[steep gust]

Wow that's uh

5-10ms

Misleading asfk from amd

[latent light]

waiting for linus to test it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/602260748885950486/20190720_180902.jpg

how do you keep AIO tubes from touching top fans

[steep gust]

Flip the pump / block

So the tubes bend the other way

[latent light]

I told him to put the top fans on the bottom as intake

and turn the radiator fans around and make the AIO into exhaust

[latent light]

I got all of these small 6x6mm copper heatsinks on each mosfet on my motherboard, even put some on the RAM phases even though pointless

[steep gust]

When you advertise your board is designed in Taipai

[latent light]

gigabyte

[coarse nimbus]

that heatsink fan...what is this 1999

[quartz whale]

@latent light yeah did it again litterally passed in realbench for 8 hrs

cuz i litterally passed realbench for 8 hrs with 0 errors.. been happening ever since gigabyte pushed this microcode update..

[steep gust]

RealBench isnt exactly a hard stress test

[fossil dune]

anyone know how /why im getting these red packet loss and high latency popups while having 30ms in game on fibre connection, game is unplayable, stuttering everywhere

running 2700x 16gb ram and 2080 on ssd

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/602323417915719681/20190720_221802.jpg

don't understand this

new drive

and there's files on it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/602324780972113944/20190720_222329.jpg

did they put malware or maybe bloatware on it?

it's a totally new drive

just unboxed it an hour ago

nvm that 9GB is just windows

ok wtf

It says it contains files from a previous installation of windows

[quartz whale]

@steep gust how?

[quartz whale]

I've ran prime95 for hours on end small FFTs and no errors

[latent light]

well shit

entered BIOS and looked at memory timings, my Command Rate is stuck at 1T again...

I change it to 2T, save and exit, HWinfo64 and CPU-Z tell me it's still at 1T

[latent light]

probably just going to throw away this Gigabyte motherboard

it gives me the option to change settings but when I change them, it automatically changes it to something else

Try to enable XMP, turns it off and puts memory at 2133 when I save it

manually put timings at 15-15-15-35, BIOS puts it at 16-17-17-40

[solar lily]

@latent light Probably it can't boot with what you have set, and it resets the BIOS to be able to boot. Did your PC restart a few times before it booted?

[latent light]

nah

I managed to get to 2666 MHz even though this is a 3000 MHz set

16-15-15-35 at 2666

it's supposed to do 15-15-15-35 at 3000

lmao

last Gigabyte product I ever buy

I'll go OEM before them

got a defective Gigabyte RX 580

and got a defective Gigabyte AB350 motherboard

not too long ago I was running at 3000 MHz at 15-15-15-35 timings because the command rate was 2T

now that the command rate is stuck at 1T, it's all fucky

[violet plank]

didn't you want the gigabyte x570 extreme board @latent light ?

[crude storm]

i bought 63 gigabyte ud5h in 2013/14 i think, after only 1 year, i had to rma 9 of them, today i have 37 of the initial 63 left 😄 GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ 4 – Insist on an Ultra Durable Motherboard

[fallen harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/FId9xiJ.png

anyone knows why i dont have any 24bit option?

[prime jasper]

drivers not installed?

[fallen harbor]

they are

[prime jasper]

try updating

[fallen harbor]

kk

[prime jasper]

im trying to put together a pc that i could build im trying to stay around 1000-1150 USD or thereabouts what would be a rough draft of a pc (idc about rbg) also whats really important

The pc would mainly be used for gaming

please feel free to explain what each part does im pretty new to this stuff, I have been told to stick with intel instead of other options

also idk if this helps or not but i would mainly be playing battle fields

are you building this yourself?

also http://www.logicalincrements.com/ will help explain the parts and comparisons @prime jasper

[molten bramble]

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=VENGEANCE®+LPX+64GB&i=electronics&rh=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A9559992011&dc&qid=1563749217&rnid=673240011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_five_browse-bin_1 hmm.. choices, choices.

[prime jasper]

what are you, poor?

[molten bramble]

LOL, Imagine having a website that doesn't conform to different browsing platforms in 2019.

[prime jasper]

lmao fixed

[molten bramble]

😉

[prime jasper]

stupid word got pulled in

[molten bramble]

Shit happens

No worries, how long has this site been up?

[prime jasper]

years? fuck If I know exactly lol

[molten bramble]

😃 Being able to sort here would be helpful--say on the header.

I like the color coding.

[prime jasper]

perhaps you should send him an angry email calling his website a pile of shit?

Can I ask a dumb question

I might have a dumber answer

What does the Xbox One S compare to when it comes to PCs graphics wise

See

Dumb question

[molten bramble]

Not dumb.

Googlable though.

[prime jasper]

also yes would be building myself

[molten bramble]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/98gzkh/what_is_the_equivalent_of_xbox_one_graphics_in_a/

[prime jasper]

yeah check the site I listed, then you can use pcpartspicker to get deeper into the particulars of prices and such

[molten bramble]

Hmm.. G.Skill also has some comparable memory.

[latent light]

if you're wanting good BFV performance for only $1000-1200, I recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX 5700XT build

RX 5700XT gets RTX 2080 performance in BFV

nvm, RX 5700XT beats the 2080 in BFV

[prime jasper]

rly ?

what about in bf1

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/_l9FjSLf6sg?t=60

timestamped

1 minute in

[prime jasper]

ok

thanks

[latent light]

wait for RX 5700XT partner cards

they come out in August

[prime jasper]

whats that

[latent light]

custom cards with better cooling

[prime jasper]

ah

ok

[molten bramble]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ram,4057.html

whhaaa? Patriot?

[prime jasper]

before i was thinking something along the lines of rtx 2060 zotac and a 6 core i5

97

[latent light]

6 cores without HT

[prime jasper]

?

[latent light]

6 cores and 6 threads

Ryzen 5 3600 has 6 cores and 12 threads

[prime jasper]

wth does that mean

ik nothing about pcs

[latent light]

usually, a 6 core with 12 threads will get similar performance to an 8 core

[prime jasper]

ah

[latent light]

2 threads per core

[prime jasper]

makes sense

[molten bramble]

Hmm... I can purchase two of these kits and still come in under a 4x16Gb kit: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2x16GB-2666MHz-PC4-21300/dp/B0134EW44S?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJMXJ2YFJTEDLQMUQ&tag=digitren08-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B0134EW44S&ascsubtag=1563750836808tg6o

[latent light]

has anyone seen PSU prices lately

disgusting

$70 for a 550W bronze

[molten bramble]

tf?

[latent light]

$100 for a 650W gold

[molten bramble]

Something burn to the ground?

[latent light]

lol

[molten bramble]

Who was the resident memory aficionado?

Where is Betrayed Predator when you need him... 😄

[coarse nimbus]

practicing his snark?

[latent light]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtcxyX @prime jasper

that sapphire RX 5700XT is just a placeholder

next month there will be custom cards

[molten bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/336368729917095937/602302738193186837/Screenshot_20190720-195534.png?width=1630&height=917 Damn, this dude watercooled his consoles.

[latent light]

[coarse nimbus]

Now it looks like a PC

[rain quartz]

consolemasterrace?

[molten bramble]

CMR!

Oooohhhh rreeeaallllyyy

not sure the H80i would keep temps low enough, but good to know the headroom is there.

[latent light]

my brother's 8700K is at 5.2 GHz all core only at 1.36v

[molten bramble]

What's the cooling solution he's using?

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/M6tgXL Not a bad build for ~$1,200.

[latent light]

he's got a mini-itx build with custom waterloop, glass tubes he had to heat up and bend

[molten bramble]

Ah

[molten bramble]

Jeez... https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2x16GB-2666MHz-PC4-21300/dp/B01EI5ZBXS?SubscriptionId=AKIAJMXJ2YFJTEDLQMUQ&tag=digitren08-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B0134EW44S&ascsubtag=1563750836808tg6o&th=1 For two sticks of 32Gb total right now.

@latent light What am I missing between these two kits, I am not seeing the difference-- https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMK64GX4M4C3200C16-Vengeance-PC4-25600-Desktop/dp/B07CZ6Q7VT and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016ORTUIA/ref=psdc_172500_t1_B07CZ6Q7VT

[latent light]

they are the same

both are 64GB 3200MHz CL16

[molten bramble]

That's what I thought.

Boom... pulled the trigger on the 64Gb. I'd have liked the 2x32Gb kit, but the price point just wasn't there.

[lofty light]

I just pulled the trigger on 2x16gb dimms myself, was cheaper than 4x8 somehow 👀

[molten bramble]

Nice

What'd you go with?

[lofty light]

Some fairly cheap Corsair ones at 3000Mhz https://www.ple.com.au/Products/633345/Corsair-32GB-Kit-2x16GB-DDR4-Vengeance-RGB-PRO-C15-3000Mhz

[molten bramble]

Ah, I saw those earlier on Amazon.