technology

[latent light]

Broadwell-E was such a terrible choice

[crude storm]

intel was always a bad choice 😄

but there were no good alternativ

[steep gust]

not buy HEDT?

Broadwell-E was never a consumer platform

[latent light]

https://www.digit.in/news/gaming/playstation-5-benchmark-leak-suggests-its-4x-more-powerful-than-ps4-at-par-with-nvidia-rtx-2070-gpu-48849.html?fbclid=IwAR2E413vQ43eRNCEe2zkdaLWCa_biDnRdGqKTveFgo1xf2e6ipRdAHTObrY

PS5 gpu on par with RTX 2070

microsoft or sony should give der8aurer an unlocked console and let him play with the clock speeds

[steep gust]

The console hasn't even really be officially announced

Also it only shows the final score so you can get carried by a CPU

So bad leak

[latent light]

microsoft said the xbox will have an 8-core Zen 2 CPU, they didn't share clock speeds though

considering how power efficient 7nm is, it could be 3+ GHz

[steep gust]

Don't both the XB1 and PS4 use an 8 core FX CPU

That is garbage since it was already garbage

then they power limited it

[latent light]

yeah

[steep gust]

They aren't going to have a 300w+ console

[latent light]

any generation Ryzen CPU would be a massive improvement over the Jaguar CPU current consoles use

yeah I think they'll only have the CPU limit to 25-30W and have the GPU at around 150W

[steep gust]

25w might run the SOC

[latent light]

[steep gust]

It would be better to have a dedicated GPU

instead of shared memory

[latent light]

microsoft said their new console will have NVMe SSD as virtual ram

[steep gust]

uh that isn't fast enough

It won't be PCIe 4.0

due to costs and power draw

[latent light]

inb4 the consoles launch with only 500GB storage

let's say the consoles retail at $500 and can really play games at 120 fps, do you think a lot of budget oriented PC gamers will move onto the new consoles?

[steep gust]

not with 500GB of storage

Also playing with a controller

[strange sandal]

Wait, you wanna say nvme benefits in games and oc startup?

1-3 seconds tops

Will PCI-E 4.0 change much?

[steep gust]

no

not for NVMe on the average user

[storm osprey]

nvme for games was typically less than 1 second difference in loads

[latent light]

RTX super lineup final specs leaked

[latent light]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2473188512916759/

$50

[prime jasper]

mfw you laugh at consoles potentially launching with only 500GB but you run a 500GB ssd in your pc

same here, at least its easy to upgrade

[coarse nimbus]

yes...I run a 500gb ssd for my OS drive and a couple games then have two 1tb hdds for storage...whats your point?

[atomic atlas]

@prime jasper Coming from console myself, you can literally run an external storage unit from a console while still using the HDD inside the xbox/playstation

If people are such Pc elitist and only support PC as a whole, not supporting anything else, they need a reality check, or need their ego fixed.

[coarse nimbus]

consoles are fine...they can be used as monitor stands

[atomic atlas]

How dare someone not have the money to blow on a $3,000 PC

[coarse nimbus]

if youre spending 3k on a pc youre doing it wrong

or buying everything in Australia

[prime jasper]

Dive need to get there shit together my game keeps on crashing

[coarse nimbus]

and getting whats basically a macbook from 2011

[atomic atlas]

not my fault we get paid more in my country

[prime jasper]

@atomic atlas You live in Aus right?

Or am I wrong?

[atomic atlas]

yes

[prime jasper]

Ok so realistically for me that isn't as much as it sounds

£1700

And like $2100 USD so I don't see the big deal that it is spending that amount

[atomic atlas]

you can buy a console for less

[prime jasper]

thats like 2080ti and 360mm aio money

[atomic atlas]

and play the same games

[prime jasper]

Yes

[atomic atlas]

"lower frames" legit who cares

It is not as bad as people make it sound trust me

[prime jasper]

ngl i don't notice a big difference in 60fps vs 144fps

[atomic atlas]

@prime jasper 2080ti here sells for roughly 2.2k

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-ouch-michael-scott-steve-carell-lip-bite-gif-11838665

wew lad

[atomic atlas]

and most people do not have that sort of money just sitting there

[prime jasper]

neither do most of us burger munchers

[atomic atlas]

I mean you can if you budget

[prime jasper]

just stop being poor bro

[atomic atlas]

But i only recently spent 24k on a car

Yeah how dare i not have money

[prime jasper]

pc MaStEr RaCe AmIrItE gAmErS?!?!

lolpoor

[latent light]

720p 30 fps

[prime jasper]

pc mustard race

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

Well now

[atomic atlas]

@latent light 1080p 30fps*

[prime jasper]

1080p 60fps vs 720p 30fps is where I can tell the difference

[latent light]

BFV runs at 900P on base PS4 and Xbox one

[atomic atlas]

people still use base xbox one?

The xbox x is out

[prime jasper]

What about FPS? Seems like 60 to me but idk

[latent light]

only console that hits 60 fps is the One X, but it gets dips to the low 50s commonly

[prime jasper]

base Xbox One is borderline terrible imo

No?

[atomic atlas]

its alright

[prime jasper]

PS4 hits 60fps lul

[atomic atlas]

if you dont care about graphics etc

[prime jasper]

one x has hdr and freesync at least

[atomic atlas]

some people get home from work, sit in the couch for an hour playing a game they bought, thats it

[wind laurel]

My Xbox has turned into nothing but a streaming box.

[atomic atlas]

^

[prime jasper]

Xbox has torrent capability afaik

[atomic atlas]

only went back on mine for read dead 2

that shit was so fun

[prime jasper]

Sold Red Dead 2

[latent light]

PS4 hits 45 fps on BFV at 900p, PS4 Pro around 50-55 fps but while also at 1440p

[wind laurel]

I was gonna go back for Kingdom Hearts 3 but the performance is bad.

[atomic atlas]

[steep gust]

I really doubt the PS4 Pro runs at 1440p

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCDaNJwuzzU&

[atomic atlas]

love how it says beta in the top right hand side

[steep gust]

I want something that isn't a dude running around with a graph on his screen

How is he recording his FPS

How is he making sure the runs are the same for each console

etc

[prime jasper]

PS4 runs 60fps with many frame drops

[atomic atlas]

pro doesnt run 1440p

[latent light]

then it's not 60 fps

[atomic atlas]

no way

[prime jasper]

It is 60fps?

[atomic atlas]

if thats true, im selling my pc for a pro

[prime jasper]

As long as it hits it it technically counts

It's great how people don't expect frame drops when the game is 32v32 or just 64 players in a highly realistic, large landscape shooter with vehicles added on top

[steep gust]

I don't get FPS drops that impact me in any way

[prime jasper]

What do you play on?

[steep gust]

but PC

[prime jasper]

Yeah I mean PS4

[steep gust]

Going from 180fps to 150fps doesn't impact me on a 144hz monitor

[prime jasper]

Yeah, I'm aiming to get a PC but pretty pricey

Mainly the GPU, I already have a spare 3.2ghz CPU

[latent light]

one thing thats sucks about PC is that games aren't made on discs anymore for it

everything is digital

[prime jasper]

Doesn't affect me, Steam has a library which carries across devices and has a Verifying Files system

[wind laurel]

I'm cool with that as someone would always break my CDs.

[latent light]

steam doesn't have battlefield

[prime jasper]

ik that

[latent light]

last battlefield game on steam was bad company 2

[prime jasper]

But I only really use steam

I wasn't gonna get Battlefield on PC cause it runs fine on console anyway 🤷🏻

[steep gust]

BC2 is on origin

you buy it on steam

you get a code to origin

[latent light]

oof

[prime jasper]

[supple bane]

i would argue againts 50 fps meaning "it runs fine "

[supple bane]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gigabyte-Radeon-RX-VEGA-64-GAMING-OC-8GB-HBM2-Graphics-Card/113794730668?hash=item1a7eb1caac:g:SkEAAOSwcuZdD3oC

seems like a decent deal

oh wow, ebay has some amazing deals on gpu's rn

250 pound for a rog strix triple fan 1080

[steep gust]

Most strix cards are triple fans

[supple bane]

hey well, doesnt hurt to have details

im so fuking tempted to jump on that rn

[molten bramble]

Think someone was asking the other day about write cycles in comparison to age of SSDs for eventual drive failures--TLDR, errors/failures occur typically before write-limits are reached due to the age of components that makeup the drive. REF: 2016, Lagisetty/Merchant @ http://0b4af6cdc2f0c5998459-c0245c5c937c5dedcca3f1764ecc9b2f.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/23105-fast16-papers-schroeder.pdf

[pallid silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/96028420848230400/594594705619157003/unknown.png does anyone know how to make the windows store filing system neater? 😛 as it just made folders EVERYWHERE!!! 😛

[steep gust]

pick install locations?

[molten bramble]

^

[maiden bone]

Why does my game crash 2/3 of the time when I try to load into a game a conquest?

[latent light]

AMD confirmed that DDR5 won't come out for 4th gen Ryzen

which is pretty obvious

DDR5 will require a new CPU socket

[steep gust]

new socket is already expected

you don't need a new socket anyways, just CPUs to support it

same amount of pins as ddr4

[latent light]

I'm predicting 5th gen Ryzen will have DDR5 on AM5 socket, on 5nm, AVX512, and will launch on 5/5/2021

[latent light]

insane how the RX 560 still retails for $110-120 when you can get a RX 570 for only $10 more

[steep gust]

AMD will be first to DDR5

Calling it

[prime jasper]

[steep gust]

Not the right channel @bitter umbra

[supple bane]

if you know then why would you post it in that chat ?

[molten bramble]

@bitter umbra As noted, not the right channel. Ask in the appropriate channel, #battlefield-legacy-titles, and make sure to follow that advice going forward. Your posts have been removed. Thank you.

[marble pumice]

Buying used gpu from ebay isn't good tbh

[steep gust]

Its perfectly fine

If you have quantifiable evidence against it, please provide

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhdIU3RayI

[molten bramble]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/western-digital-stock-heads-for-best-week-in-nearly-7-years-as-power-outage-seen-as-boon-2019-06-28

Toshiba / WD NAND production drop--expect price fluctuations in the coming months.

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-x570-godlike-motherboard-expensive,39769.html

Doesn't even have the best VRMs

😔

[violet plank]

i wouldn't be surprised if most bencher/reviewers/testers will recommend 470 boards for zen2

buying a board that is 2-3 x the price of the cpu itself is just ridiculous

[lofty light]

Depends on what you need

The fact that the new boards have better VRMs and most importantly PCIE 4 is a huge boon, what with the higher core count CPUs pulling a lot of power

[prime jasper]

Im literally getting 10 fps on a 2010 game on lowest graphics, my cpu, gpu and ram are at around 30-50% usage, and my laptop temperature is normal

any help?

[supple bane]

what are the specs of your laptop and what is the game

[prime jasper]

Game is BFBC2, My specs are AMD Ryzen 3 2200U, Vega 3 Graphics and 8gb ram

[supple bane]

sounds about right for those specs

[prime jasper]

hol up, let em see if its like it on all games

really?

[violet plank]

only usable thing with pcie 4 atm is nvme ssd,which does nada for gaming,and if you need that speed you will go for hedt anyways

[supple bane]

ye crabdul that is probs about right

you dont have a gpu so i dont know what you would expect

[prime jasper]

Roblox is getting it too, and my old pc didnt have a gpu, had a worse cpu and only 4 gigs of ram and worked better

😦

[supple bane]

that laptop isnt meant for gaming, its built for light work loads and browsing

[prime jasper]

yeah true, but shouldnt it still run better than my old laptop from 2012, which was also designed for light work?

[violet plank]

only thing you can do is try to allocate more memory to the igpu

if the bios has that option

[prime jasper]

how do i do that? @supple bane

[supple bane]

well i cant say if you dont give me the specs of the old laptop

[prime jasper]

@violet plank

sorry wrong person

hold up

[supple bane]

i wouldnt even bother tbh

[prime jasper]

looking for old specs

[supple bane]

it still wont run any games

maybe minecraft

vega 3 is like, unholy bad

[prime jasper]

4 gigs of ram and an i3-3227u CPU, 1.90 GHz

[violet plank]

go into the bios and look for any option that says shared memory for graphics or smthing like that

[prime jasper]

how do i go into bios?

[violet plank]

look it up on google with your laptop model

[prime jasper]

ok

thanks

[violet plank]

but i doubt it will change anything

[supple bane]

^

seriously

dont bother

[prime jasper]

😐

[supple bane]

you wont get anything from it

[prime jasper]

thanks anyways

[rain quartz]

Hello! I'm wondering if anyone could help we with Battlefield V crashes. My hardware should be more than enough, but even at mid-low settings I will be getting around 58-62 FPS. The game will also crash randomly- CPU temps are within 80c, GPU is usually around 60c. Any advice? Note: I reset GPU OC with no success, same with CPU.

I'm running an 8700k, 16 gigs of ram, and an 8 gig 2070.

[rocky whale]

Fix the game plz

[rain quartz]

?

[rocky whale]

Update broke it af

[rain quartz]

thats true

Never had problems before

[supple bane]

@rocky whale we arent dice, and you cant just "fix a game" you need to realise it is more complicated than that

@rain quartz do you have an overclock enabled ? have you tried reinstalling your drivers, try to repair the game files,

[rain quartz]

I do.

Just crashed when I died in a single player mission...

This game is so broken :/

[odd goblet]

I still don't know how I should upgrade my PC, my budget just got a big increase tho

[steep gust]

everything

buy a new monitor

[odd goblet]

I hate not being able to copy and paste my specs from system or dxdiag

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100T CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
System Manufacturer: MSI
Model: MS-7971
GFX: Radeon RX550/550 Series

[steep gust]

CPU first

[odd goblet]

i5 I assume?

[steep gust]

Wait on Zen 2

[odd goblet]

How much would that cost?

[steep gust]

buy a 3600 for $200, some X470 / B450 board that supports it out of the box, and 16GB of DDR4

[odd goblet]

$200 looks cheap for how good that seems

[supple bane]

all of ryzen cpu's are cheap for what they are

like. every single one of them

@odd goblet what is your budget now ?

[odd goblet]

Right now about $450-$500

[supple bane]

usd right?

[odd goblet]

ye

Even though I am in Pangaea, we use USD

[supple bane]

ill make a pc part picker list for you of what would be a good option

obvs i cant include the 3600 in a pc part picker yet, so i will find a cpu that costs about the same, so in your mind replace that with the 3600

@odd goblet do you know what the speed of your ram is ?

[odd goblet]

Not really

[supple bane]

open task manager. then click preformance then memory, and then it is here

[odd goblet]

Not listed

[supple bane]

eh?

what do you mean by that

does it litterally say " not listed " ?

[supple bane]

ah your on windows 7

hmm, i guess i will have to throw some ram in there anyway

[steep gust]

@supple bane just custom part and put a 3600 for $200 in

[supple bane]

oh right

[odd goblet]

Still looks really cheap for being about as good as an i9 or so

[supple bane]

the 3600 wont match an i9

it is like 7700k performance

[odd goblet]

I guess Google is giving me shit results lol

[supple bane]

maybe a little more

[odd goblet]

That or clickbait

As two video results say it will 'dominate' the i9

[steep gust]

Its not beating a 9900k

6c 12t < 8c 16t

[odd goblet]

Yeah that's hella clickbait

[steep gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/354433588919271435/588032998620921878/image.jpg

Now for $200

It crushes anything on Intel's side

[supple bane]

hold up, im not seeing the custom part tab, and im not stupid, i have used it before, it is just fucking gone

[odd goblet]

Fucking discord resolution

[steep gust]

bottom

[supple bane]

ik its at the bottom

[steep gust]

and you have to be signed in

[supple bane]

ah

and i forgot my password

[odd goblet]

[supple bane]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k697zY

it just scrapes over 500

[odd goblet]

This is practically a whole new computer 👀

[supple bane]

but that is average for those parts, you can get them cheaper if you look hard enough

pretty much ye

[odd goblet]

Also, I haven't heard anything good from Gigabyte... ever

[supple bane]

i have that motherboard, and there isnt anything i can complain from it

[odd goblet]

Everytime I hear Gigabyte in a conversation, it's negative

Just my personal... hearing I guess... third-hand experience... whatever term lol

[supple bane]

i mean, the motherboard doesnt really matter too much, not unless you plan on making some killer pc with 10 fans and 100tb of hdd space

and some may be better for oc's

[steep gust]

Gigglebyte has fine Z390 boards

I would go for 2x8

spend the extra $40

[supple bane]

hmmm

i would say 12 is probs best,

[steep gust]

12 is a terrible config for ram

[supple bane]

because i rarely go past 13

only game i have seen gobble more than 13 gb of ram is ark

[steep gust]

Its still not expensive

and if you do anything in the background you want 16

[supple bane]

~~ he means chrome~~

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TsTPjy

there

tbh, you could probs get all that and still be under 500

because like i said, pcpartpicker doesnt get its prices from the cheapest sources

like the gpu you could even get second hand

[latent light]

@prime jasper since you only have 4GB ram, you're going to run into issues when gaming considering that 4GB has to be shared between system and the integrated graphics

[prime jasper]

@latent light nah my old PC had 4 gigs my current one has 8, idk what the problem was, but it's fixed (for now) and I'm getting 50-60 fps

[latent light]

What did you do

[prime jasper]

Nothing, really, restarted it, had a ryzen controller and edited some values as suggested by someone on reddit

But changing the values only worked sometimes

[latent light]

Did you reserve more RAM for the integrated graphics?

[supple bane]

even if he did, vega 3 wont be playing many games

[latent light]

It will play 2010 games

[prime jasper]

@latent light no, couldn't figure out how to do that

[latent light]

Have to enter your BIOS

[prime jasper]

I'll try it later and search more about it, not on my PC later

Rn*

Thanks

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-070-super-vs-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt,39772.html

Heavily Nvidia optimized game btw

[crude storm]

and not something i would consider a benchmark

[latent light]

Ye

[random flax]

m i the only 1 who have update 32 gb

?

[supple bane]

thats not the update, thats a process that happens before the update

notice how the speed that it is going up is wayyyy more than the speed of your internet

[random flax]

oh

yeah its kinda fast

[latent light]

apparently a stock Ryzen 9 3950X shouldn't pull more power than stock Ryzen 7 2700X

could be true considering it probably doesn't have a high all-core boost

my Gigabyte B350 got the BIOS update for full 3rd gen Ryzen support

gonna stick a 3950X in and overclock to 5 GHz

4 sub-par Vcore phases = ez

[supple bane]

i just realised, its a true fact that you dont need as much cooling here as you would in texas for example,

usually, i get an average of 70 degrees with my overclock on my gpu

today

90

its like 25 degrees C outside

and that is hot for me

just something that popped to mind

[steep gust]

a 3950x is drawing more power than 2700x

TDP is base clocks and a cooler spec

[latent light]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6svy1a/tdp_vs_tdp/

first comment on this post is an AMD employee that explains TDP

2700X draws 105 watts stock on torture test, 8700K draws 160 watts

[steep gust]

Sounds about right since that 8700k is not following intel spec

[latent light]

8700K does go up an entire GHz on boost though

from 3.7 to 4.7 single core

all core is 4.4 or 4.5 iirc

[steep gust]

AVX load

[latent light]

power consumption when playing witcher 3

[quaint topaz]

Amazing tool.

[crude storm]

i want to know if my asrock x470 taichi and my asus x470 prime pro can hold the 3950x but i think this will be early october

[latent light]

taichi will easily

[crude storm]

i somehow suspect that the r9 only will be compatible with x570

[latent light]

it will be supported on even B350, just not a good idea lmao

my B350 got a BIOS update that literally says "Ryzen 3rd gen full support"

[crude storm]

i saw that

[steep gust]

If your VRM throttles

You get shit performance

[broken prism]

guys does any1 know how to reset nahimic so i could change the output from speaker to headphones?

[supple bane]

google it

[broken prism]

I tried a lot but no luck and i even posted in msi forum

Does nobody uses it?

Then why every msi onboard audio driver comes with modified realtek which works with nahimic

[crude storm]

You can reset your current profile to default settings by clicking on the small arrow at the bottom right of the audio page (or microphone page, depending on what you want to reset). ?

@broken prism

[broken prism]

Im using nahimic 3, I don't see any arrow at the bottom right

[prime jasper]

are the drivers up to date?

[broken prism]

@crude storm

[crude storm]

@broken prism sorry, i just did a google search on my end, i find that it differs often depending on the country you search

https://storage-asset.msi.com/file/pdf/Nahimic_User_Guide_EN.pdf maybe something in there

[marble ginkgo]

Anyone having problems loading into certain maps

[nova pulsar]

I can't hear anyone in voip

But they can hear me

[supple bane]

do you have other audio? Like can you hear YouTube, your game etc

and are you on pc or console ?

[nova pulsar]

Yea

I can hear everything except voip

PC

It's really annoying lol

[prime jasper]

hah!

I already have one

[lofty light]

Why get a 2080 when you could be poor and have a Titan RTX?

[prime jasper]

Why be poor when you could have a gt 1030?

[lofty light]

[compact cave]

Anyone else have problems with high CPU usage and under 100% Gpu usage?

[steep gust]

Normal?

task manager shows the average thread usage

games don't use 100% of every thread

[nova pulsar]

My voip wont work well they can hear me but i cant hear them. Do you know the fix for this @steep gust

[lofty light]

Sounds like your output device on discord is selected incorrectly @nova pulsar

[nova pulsar]

On discord?

I'm talking about in game

[alpine haven]

Could be the same in-game.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00TKFD51M $389.99US for this mouse. Better give me a hug and call me special in the mornings for that kind of money.

[lofty light]

👀

I used to have the non RGB version of that mouse, was $40

[molten bramble]

lol

[lofty light]

It's older though so might just be rarity

Pretty sure it cost like $90 or something at the time for that one

[steep gust]

Its like $80

unless you want to buy the super stupid variant

[lofty light]

Actually a good mouse, real comfy and light

[prime jasper]

I just orderd a I9 9900k because my I7 9700k can't handle Battlefield 5 without getting 90-100% percent usage what is causing a lot of lags .....😳

[sour meteor]

you have another issue ,your 9700k should handle it just fine

clock that sucker to at least 4.8 all core with a decent cooling

and you will be fine

[lofty light]

Sorry, you're thinking the issue is with a 9700k?!

[sour meteor]

its thermal throtling or something else grinding your cpu in the background

[lofty light]

Also 100% usage isn't necessarily a bad thing, it means it's being used

[sour meteor]

usually my 9900k run arround 50% in game

but i run it at 5ghz all core

[lofty light]

What's your card? There must be a bottleneck elsewhere

[sour meteor]

2080ti

no botleneck

[lofty light]

My CPU is a serious bottleneck for my card

2080ti on water plus a 5820k

[sour meteor]

3440x1400p 120 fos stable

[lofty light]

Same here actually

You got an Acer X34P?

[sour meteor]

yup

[lofty light]

Ayyy

[sour meteor]

your cpu on water or air?

[latent light]

getting a $500 CPU just to play a shit optimized game

[sour meteor]

some people spend more on hooker and blow

to each is own

[latent light]

everyone experiences stutter in BFV

it's unavoidable

[sour meteor]

been pretty lucky it dosent append to me to often

[latent light]

LevelCap and Jackfrags have videos talking about their experiences

[lofty light]

@sour meteor got a 240 on the CPU and a 360 on the GPU

[latent light]

I hope after pacific maps come out, Dice goes full into working on optimization

[sour meteor]

how much did you manage to get out of your cpu?

[lofty light]

Was going to go with a 240 + 120 for the CPU but somehow I broke the 120 so went screw it

Not that much, tbh I haven't overclocked it too much at all

[sour meteor]

go for it

it might just be the push you need to get rid of your botleneck

[lofty light]

Eh, I'm probs gonna get Zen 2 when that comes out

[latent light]

apparently having Windows 10 version 1809 or newer and playing on DX12 will remove most stutter

[sour meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DD8C3bIjY

pretty much none on my end

[latent light]

yeah I'm going to get a Ryzen 5 3600, should be a nice upgrade from my current 1600

[sour meteor]

but im lucky in a way,living in a remote area with extremly fast internet and not to many people

[lofty light]

Looking at that sweet 12 core

I live in the literal worst suburb in my city and have bad 50mbps

[latent light]

I got the BIOS update for my B350 motherboard that has full 3rd gen compatibility

[sour meteor]

you gonna want to put some heatsink on the vrm

or a full water block

[latent light]

I'm sure the Ryzen 5 3600 will consume less power than my 1600

[lofty light]

3600 shouldn't be too bad

[latent light]

TSMC 7nm is 40% more power efficient than their 14nm

[sour meteor]

tdp 65 watt stock nice

[lofty light]

It's the high core count ones that are gonna need those true 14 phase ones (and by need I mean I really want one)

[latent light]

the 16-core will reach an ultimate peak of 200 amps of current, which could kill a decent 8 phase lmao

the 12-core will be between 150-175 amps

[sour meteor]

im pulling 140amp at full load lol

on my 9900k

[latent light]

8 cores at 140 amps

Ryzen 7 2700X only goes to 100 amps max

[sour meteor]

192w

[latent light]

yeah a 9900K on boost clock will run at 180 watts

[sour meteor]

5ghz all core

[latent light]

then again, boost clocks often use more voltage than they need

[sour meteor]

manual clocking all the way

[latent light]

my brother has a 9900K at 5.2 GHz, but he has a custom loop

[sour meteor]

i wish

but my living room is at 25c right now lol

custom loop as well

[lofty light]

Just make a roboclocker

[sour meteor]

i should install a damn ac

[lofty light]

Custom LN2 loop

[latent light]

I used to have a i5-4690K that ran at 5.25 GHz for 2 years until I sold it to my friend

[lofty light]

That was my first CPU actually

[sour meteor]

haha ln2 would be dope

would need probaly the truck park at my door for a complete day of gaming lol

[lofty light]

4690k as my first, then went to a 5820k and haven't changed since

[sour meteor]

intel kinda got lazy lately

i love my 9900k but really its almost like they where not trying

[latent light]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6968339

my friend's benchmark for the i5-4590K I sold to him

he has it at 5.25 as well

[sour meteor]

nice

let me give it a try real quick lol

[latent light]

it's going to be insane if the Ryzen 9 3950X at 4.7 GHz boost will be able to match a 9900K at 5.3 GHz

I can see enthusiasts buying it to disable half the cores to get higher clocks

[sour meteor]

ill wait next year to upgrade

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18044351

got to be reasonable

[lofty light]

I wonder if you'll need to run a "game mode" like with threadripper on the 12 and 16 core ones

[sour meteor]

dont think so

the good sign is to see all the board at launch

mean they believe in the product

[lofty light]

Yups, means I can pick out a replacement for this beauty beforehand

[sour meteor]

nice

[lofty light]

It's actually the nicest thing ever, fills me with happiness every time I see it

Like whoever designed it thought of exactly what I wanted aesthetically

[sour meteor]

i like my maximus x code as well

i just wish asus worked a bit more on the ai suite

what a cancer

gave it a try at start,nope no thanks

[lofty light]

I'm thinking of just uninstalling it tbh

But can't be stuffed

[sour meteor]

my fan curve are set in the bios

[lofty light]

Same

[sour meteor]

and for my monitoring simply using good old hwinfo64

[lofty light]

Tbh my fan curve is a straight line of full blast

I prefer to never have to worry about heat than noise

[sour meteor]

had to gave a curve to mine, genius me bought some industrial noctua for 2 of my rad

[lofty light]

Noisy? I was gonna get those actually

[sour meteor]

at 3000 its pure madness

[lofty light]

Ended up getting Maglevs recently

Oof

[sour meteor]

if you can hide them the NF-A12x25 are crazy

[sour meteor]

2000 rpm no noise

nice

[lofty light]

Noice

[sour meteor]

whats that case?

[lofty light]

Corsair Obsidian 500D I think

Lots of glass and thick aluminium/steel frames

Front fans aren't Maglevs as I had two 140 mm ones in the front of my old case not three 120's

[sour meteor]

nice

https://imgur.com/a/Jtug9Bx

here mine

that channel wont let me paste picture

damn i should have clean the glass first lol

[lofty light]

Whoa noice! What case?

[strange sandal]

Can't even upload

[latent light]

[supple bane]

wait, boosters can’t post images

That’s. Dumb

you would think effectively paying to represent the server would give you at least the perks that a regular gets

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/silicon-lottery-amd-ryzen-3000,39774.html

[prime jasper]

aka how do we rebrand Celeron tier chips

[prime jasper]

means thrown away or rejected

so in the past, CPUs that get made and dont make the grade get assessed and sold as Celeron or whatever label, now days I guess they just dont bother to grade the rejects

[sour meteor]

@lofty light lian li pco11 rog edition an older case

[loud pagoda]

Hello guys is someone running a 1070 sli pc here ?

If so , is it worth or not ?

[prime jasper]

sli generally isnt worth it

[loud pagoda]

So i should sell my current one and buy 2070 maybe ? I only play on 1080p and 144hz monitor

So idk if it's overkill with 2070

[prime jasper]

a 2070 will definitely be a noticeable upgrade. the new radeon cards are coming out in like a week so you could wait for benchmarks comparing them

[loud pagoda]

isent amd's card shit?

[prime jasper]

its not out yet

hence wait for benchmarks

[supple bane]

@loud pagoda all of amd's card have better price to performance over nvidias cards

the only thing that nvidia have over amd is their professional cards

like Quadros and shite

that goes for the same in cpu's. everyone of amd's cpus are better in price to performance than intel, and they practically own the editing space

[storm osprey]

one week will launch

[shy tapir]

What about Drivers for AMD GPUs? Nvidia basically offers drivers for more or less every new AAA game and it's involved in quite a few games while developing. Some drivers really improve performance of some specific games sometimes. I own an old radeon HD card (still good enough for csgo and non demanding games) on my second computer. And there definitely wasnt many driver updates over the years. Atleast not per game. Did they improve on that? I'm curious how it's nowadays.

[prime jasper]

they are updated much more regularly nowadays

even my old APU still gets updates

[steep gust]

Pushing updates for every large game doesn't do much

driver to driver performance is generally pretty small

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=0

AM4 VRM list, take it with a grain of salt but its pretty useful for Zen 2

[shy tapir]

yeah, i know. But sometimes performance gets greatly improved. Most of the time stays the same tho 😃

[sacred walrus]

How much of a performance boost would I see going from an FX6300 and 1050Ti to an R3 2200g with a 1660 Ti in bf5? I play at 1080p.

[supple bane]

such a massive one that it is off the charts

[prime jasper]

tbh I wouldnt bother with the APU since you are using dedicated graphics

4c/4t isnt going to be very smooth anyway

[supple bane]

ye it isnt the best cpu

just spend like 40 pound extra and get the 2600

[latent light]

yeah 2600 will be a massive improvement

[supple bane]

but that will still be plenty for gaming

maybe not 144hz

but it will play most titles

you can even still get the motherboard you planned on getting as they both use the same socket

[storm osprey]

@sacred walrus get a 1600 if you can get one around the same price as the 2200g

[supple bane]

oh ye, i didnt think of those tbch

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prAaADB9Kck

PBO got further improvements

[sacred walrus]

Yes I see that but I don't want to spend a ton on my CPU

[sour meteor]

spending a bit more sometime mean spending less down the road

[supple bane]

like nyphon said, the 1600 is about the same price

[latent light]

yeah Ryzen 3 2200G will stutter in BFV

[supple bane]

and wont bottle neck the 1660ti like the 2200g will

[latent light]

yeah 1660Ti will only get 1060 performance if you have only a 4 core CPU

[supple bane]

although the 2200g WILL play . you are spending money on a very capable gpu, to then hold it back with the cpu

oof

great minds think alike if yanno what i mean

[sacred walrus]

ok

thanks

[sour meteor]

wait 2 week anyway

[storm osprey]

@sacred walrus do you have microcenter near you?

[sour meteor]

im sure lots of sale will append

[sacred walrus]

Im building around this time next year

[storm osprey]

...

[sacred walrus]

no

Sadly

[storm osprey]

things will completely change in a year

[sacred walrus]

Yes

new gpus and cpus

[storm osprey]

you shouldnt talk about a build until youre building in that month

[sacred walrus]

I still like to look ahead

[prime jasper]

well its rather hard to look a year ahead lol

[storm osprey]

no point, things will be different

[sour meteor]

computer move to fast to look ahead

6 month ago ram was almost double the price it is today

[storm osprey]

yea, the only thing i would say is to get ram soon, especially if prices start to increase

but absolutely anything else is probably a bad idea to look at atm

ssd prices keep dropping, new cpus/gpus/mbs are coming out in a week, let alone who knows whats coming in a year

[sour meteor]

got the feeling we will see monster video card again because of amd

dual gpu on 1 card lol

[latent light]

if only they could make a dual GPU card really run like a single GPU

every previous dual GPU card ran in SLI or crossfire

[sour meteor]

with the extra bandwith with pcie 4 i think its defintly posible

[latent light]

the Vega II Pro used in the new 2019 mac pro has 2 GPUs on a single card and they are connected via infinity fabric like Ryzen uses

[supple bane]

i feel like the dual gpu on one card isnt too hard to get, its getting drivers and what not to make it at least close to it being double the performance of just one of the chips

[latent light]

mac pro GPU

[sour meteor]

nha nvidia nvlink scale really great actually

@latent light wont surprise me to see them release it next year for pc

[latent light]

RX 5950 that beats 2080Ti

[sour meteor]

the market is there,

[storm osprey]

considering 1060 is the most popular card i think AMD should focus on the mid tier like they are doing

[sour meteor]

i love my 2080ti but rtx i use it only to impress people lol

[latent light]

RX 5700 and 5700XT are only Navi 10

Navi 20 will be revealed CES 2020 which is in January

[sour meteor]

i think its worth they both work on mid and high tier

[latent light]

should see a 5800, 5800 XT and 5900, 5900XT

[sour meteor]

more competition will make better deal for us

and better performance

[latent light]

Navi 10 is GCN + RDNA hybrid and Navi 20 is full RDNA

[sour meteor]

dont forget de gddr6

[supple bane]

would a 2400g need case fans? or would it be good with just the stock cooler and no case fans ?

just wondering for when i build my dads system

[latent light]

all cases need at least an exhaust fan

[supple bane]

aight

[sour meteor]

check gamernexus

for good review on case and airflow

[latent light]

always need a fan that can exhaust the warm air that builds up inside the case

[supple bane]

makes sense

@sour meteor i already know what case im getting him

[sour meteor]

what case you plan to get?

[storm osprey]

unless he wants a tiny case, even a micro build will have at least 1 intake and 1 exhaust

thats what i always recommend

[latent light]

Xbox original, Xbox 360, PS2, PS3, Gamecube, Wii all didn't have intake fans but they had at least an exhaust fan

[supple bane]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Mid-Tower-Quiet-Gaming/dp/B07KGSBWJP/ref=asc_df_B07KGSBWJP/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310773493424&hvpos=1o16&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15251531439452799951&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006524&hvtargid=pla-639428904697&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

[latent light]

Xbox One has a 100mm exhaust fan lol

[sour meteor]

they are not great for airflow\

[supple bane]

it doesnt need air flow lol

im not building him a gaming system

its having a 2400g and thats it

im using the igpu from it

[sour meteor]

you might want to consider matx case then

[storm osprey]

id still get 2 fans just because

[latent light]

wait 1 week because that's when the 3400G comes out for $149 msrp

[storm osprey]

cheap, youll hardly hear them if at all, will keep everything definitely cool

[latent light]

3400G will be even cooler than the 2400G as well

[supple bane]

well the price of the 2400g might drop from that tho

[storm osprey]

doesnt 3400g NOT use 7nm?

[latent light]

12nm

[storm osprey]

what makes it cooler?

[latent light]

2400G max turbo is 3.9 GHz, 3400G goes to 4.2 GHz

[supple bane]

oh that case i sent above comes with 2 fans

sorted

[storm osprey]

most cases do

[latent light]

if you downclock the 3400G to same frequency as the 2400G, it will draw a lot less power

[storm osprey]

youd have to get something super budget to not get 2 fans

[latent light]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2425022114398192/

pretty good budget

$380

[storm osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3QwNQ

for 150 more (minus legit windows) you can get similar for brand new

well, you get more ram, ddr4 vs ddr3

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423889256633860106/595325685208186898/7e465b7.png

what AM4 motherboards will be able to handle which 3rd gen CPUs

damn B450 Tomahawk can handle stock Ryzen 9 3950X

the Tomahawk is easily best 4 phase board

[prime jasper]

yeah Im curious to see how it handles PBO, that is a hell of a chip for a 4 phase

[latent light]

PBO scales with how well the motherboard's delivery is

[prime jasper]

holy hell look at that VRM cooling

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Impact/

[rain quartz]

Does battlefield v have a benchmark?

[prime jasper]

nope

[rain quartz]

ok

[latent light]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/3937vs4041

first benchmark of the 3600X, 6% faster than i7-8700K

[lofty light]

Not even, it's the Ryzen 5 so midrange

I'm keen af for the Ryzen 9

Something like that, they had like 3920x etc as well so I lost track of names

The 16 core is gonna be late though

Gonna go with the 12 and have less heat issues

All of the mid to high end are 2 threads for one core

[scarlet pond]

Guys, I've a problem. I've reinstalled Windows on my SSD. On the HDD is installed Origin with BF4 and BF1

If I start Origin, it wound find the files of BF4 and BF1

I've already changed the path for installation, but still doesn't find the already installed games

[glass dove]

Will a gtx 1050 and 7700HQ run firestorm and battlefield 1?

[violet plank]

Official zen 2 NDA falls 7.7 13:00 UTC

[quaint topaz]

https://youtu.be/bnEPBcCkM2Y

They will discontinue the RTX 2070 and 2080 to replace them with the Super cards.

[rigid knoll]

While hiking up the prices even more?

[violet plank]

ofc,it's nvidia 😏

[rain quartz]

@scarlet pond try to verify the games. There should be an option to do something like that in the same menu as uninstall.

[scarlet pond]

Ok i'll see

Thanks

[rain quartz]

If that does not work, then try uninstall-reinstall. I assume you are tried restating as well?

[steep gust]

@lofty light 3900x is the 12c, 3950x is the 16c

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/354433588919271435/588032998620921878/image.jpg

This was pre 16 core announcement

[storm osprey]

these ram prices

[rain quartz]

REEEE

bfv just crashed again

[supple bane]

do you have an overclock applied ?

[rain quartz]

I thought stability was fixed...

[storm osprey]

HAHAHAH

ha

good one

[rain quartz]

Yeah, but I have tried downclocking it to no avail.

And do you mean to cpu or gpu

[supple bane]

well just put it on stock speeds

i mean both

[rain quartz]

It did not help when I tried it yesterday.

[storm osprey]

bfv is also just a game that crashes

[rain quartz]

Thats true

[storm osprey]

if youre not crashing in other games just blame bfv

[rain quartz]

it's just crashed in this same spot 7 times

I cant get past it in war stories

[storm osprey]

id suspect theres a problem with that part of the game in specific

can try to verify or reinstall

[rain quartz]

Ive done both twice

maybe i dont have enough RGB

[storm osprey]

probably

is it set to red for performance?

[rain quartz]

its set to a blue/white.

its now red.

[lofty light]

@steep gust ah thanks mate, what with their naming being so damn the same as Intel I get confused

Btw you need a better gaming chair, not RGB

[steep gust]

XX20x is threadripper stuff

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpzf0uHuCc

[steep gust]

ugly asfk

[latent light]

RTX 2070 super only 3-5% behind 2080 on average

[supple bane]

what are the prices like real quick

dont have time to watch the vid rn

[latent light]

$500 for 2070 super

[supple bane]

and 2060?

[latent light]

$400 for 2060 super

[supple bane]

hmm

doesnt seem toooooo bad

[latent light]

$350 for regular 2060

[supple bane]

how much better is the super verison tho

[latent light]

2060 super is 11% faster than regular 2060

[supple bane]

neat

[latent light]

i already said it

$50 more for 11% more performance

[storm osprey]

did not know these were coming out today

[steep gust]

NDA dropped today

Cards aren't out as far as i know

[storm osprey]

ahh, basically trying to steal amds thunder

when is amds NDA over? they launch in a few days

[violet plank]

nda drops 7.7 13:00 UTC

for zen 2

[storm osprey]

for navi gpus

id assume the same then

[violet plank]

no idea

[storm osprey]

NDA on launch day ehh? thats usually sketch

[violet plank]

got that date/time from a vendor

for zen tho

didn't mention navi

waiting for navi 20 anyways,10 would be a downgrade for me

[storm osprey]

my 1080 is still holding strong

[violet plank]

1080ti here,no need to upgrade at all

atm at least

[latent light]

there's probably going to be a price reduction on the RX 5700 series right after launch

I could see them drop the 5700XT to $400 and the 5700 to $330-350

[violet plank]

really wanted an amd gpu,but there isn't even a side grade for me atm

[finite abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fitnjURTEIQ

i just spent 7 hours doing this

trying to get it to work

[latent light]

did you have to bind each button?

I remember when I tried to play an emulator with my xbox controller and I had to spend an hour or two binding the analog sticks

had to perfectly move them in certain directions

was annoying

[steep gust]

@violet plank Radeon 7

get a waterblock and it'll near a 2080ti

[violet plank]

they do @steep gust ?and how much W will they draw?like 400 ?

iirc it underperforms pretty bad in 1440p

the 7 vs the 2080

[steep gust]

300-400w

[violet plank]

that's a lot

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gigabytes-next-gen-pcie-40-ssds-go-up-for-preorder-starting-at-dollar259/?utm_content=buffer6de01&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb&fbclid=IwAR3zJwSXra-jQkZyBhkIVgczqZ6aUdYcKENXq_pZ_asc2mP9YfX3TKhgYVo

5,000 MB/s

[supple bane]

jesus fooking christ

will be interesting to see the boot times on that thing

[prime jasper]

I doubt it'll be much better

[supple bane]

ik i was kidding

[steep gust]

5000 MB/s?

weak asfk

pretty sure PCIe 4.0 x4 is 6400 MB/s cap

[molten bramble]

That thing will be limited by the standard Aorus software to 4MB/s :p

[steep gust]

buy the pro variant of the firmware for only $50 a month!

[latent light]

Gigbyte

[prime jasper]

Assr ck

[supple bane]

c rsair

[steep gust]

Corshit

[supple bane]

hey. you leave corsair alone

[storm osprey]

Nyphn

[supple bane]

i have corsair fans, corsair psu and corsair ram

dunno what you talking about ?

[storm osprey]

what are you talking about?

[steep gust]

How's your garbage ecosystem

[supple bane]

fucker

anyone who didnt see that whole thing is gonna be so confused heh

[prime jasper]

falling for the ecosystem meme

[storm osprey]

[steep gust]

smh

I only use DiabloTek

[prime jasper]

I prefer Biostar tbh

[steep gust]

I prefer EVGA's AMD boards

[marble shell]

What do I do when I start my new PC for the first time and it says Check Signal Cable?

[steep gust]

check the cable?

[marble shell]

I did

Nothing works

[violet plank]

you mean the vga cable ?

like hdmi or dp ?

[marble shell]

Hdmi

[violet plank]

ew

use a dp if you can

higher bandwith

check if you you got multiple ports on your graphic card/monitor,and if the monitor is set to hdmi

[steep gust]

it makes zero difference unless you are using a few monitors that need the bandwidth

[violet plank]

depends

[marble shell]

The monitor switches between hdmi and analog

Searching for the monitor

[violet plank]

analog?like an actual ancient vga plug ?that monitor must be like 15 years old lol

[latent light]

I prefer Chevrolet Ryzen motherboards

[marble shell]

Samsung LC27F396FHUXEN

I dont think its that old

[rigid knoll]

Try different hdmi cables? Another monitor?

[violet plank]

wow,that thing really has a vga port

[marble shell]

Different hdmi doesnt work

[violet plank]

can you disable it on the monitor menu ?

[marble shell]

There is a menu

In hdmi mode it still doesnt find the pc

[violet plank]

weird

you got more than 1 hdmi port on your gpu ?

[marble shell]

I got 2

[rigid knoll]

Actually, my X34 does that very rarely, and randomly. The trick is to have the monitor completely unplugged for a while, and it works again

[violet plank]

guess on both ports the same ?

[rigid knoll]

And I mean unplugged from pc and power

[marble shell]

You need to know thar I started it the first time today @rigid knoll

[violet plank]

yeah you can try that

[marble shell]

I think its the same

Tried both

[violet plank]

what gpu do you use ?

[marble shell]

GTX 1060

[violet plank]

is power saving disabled on the monitor ?

[marble shell]

How can I find out

[violet plank]

monitor menu

disable anything

[marble shell]

There is nothing

[violet plank]

that should be the user manual for your monitor ?

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201906/20190618104444943/BN46-00552H-Eng.pdf

[marble shell]

Yeah

[violet plank]

check it out,gtg now,good luck

you have a manual and a auto detection for the source signal

one of the 2 must work

[marble shell]

Ok bye

[plain bone]

can a rtx 2060, i7-8700 (non-k), 16gb ram run this game on high?

[latent light]

yeah

[rain quartz]

Lol, same specs here but 2070

I'm really sad I gought my GPU 6 months ago

would get the super now

[storm osprey]

such is the way with tech

[rain quartz]

Indeed

[storm osprey]

you got 6-12 months till theres a better deal to be had

[rain quartz]

yeah

I built er last xmas

[storm osprey]

nice

my build getting kinda old

[rain quartz]

specs?

[storm osprey]

4790, 1080, 16gb

[rain quartz]

1080! you call that old!

[loud pagoda]

Yall think it's worth to uppgrade from a GTX 1070 8gb to a RTX 2080 ''SUPER'' ?? The price seems nice tho. Just wanna hear yall opinion

[rain quartz]

Upgrade to the 2070 super

[storm osprey]

1080 is 3 years old now

[loud pagoda]

I have a i7 4790K

Will that bottelneck?

[rain quartz]

I'm not farmiliar with that CPU- cores, clock speed?

[storm osprey]

uhh 2080 super isnt out

[rain quartz]

yeah it is

[storm osprey]

4790k is 4c8t

[prime jasper]

1440p and above? no bottleneck really

[rain quartz]

2060, 70, and 80 super

[loud pagoda]

iam a 1080p guy, as far as im not geting a better moniter. But im glad with my 144hz atm'

[rain quartz]

Ive got a 75hz 1440p

I like it quite a bit

[storm osprey]

is there an reviews or any release date?

only thing i heard on 2080 super is that there is gonna be one

[loud pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnEPBcCkM2Y

[rain quartz]

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/294403-nvidias-new-super-rtx-2060-2070-gpus-offer-better-performance-at-the-same-price

first thing i found when googling new nvidia super cards

all 3 are out

[storm osprey]

none are out

isnt NDA just lifted

[rain quartz]

oh

[loud pagoda]

BRB

[storm osprey]

(i asked same thing)

and iirc 2080 super is coming later, hence no benchmarks

[rain quartz]

ah

[storm osprey]

but they know the price and expected performance

[rain quartz]

Maybe micro center will accept a return of my 2070...

2070 super here I come

[long sphinx]

2 rx 5700s should match a 2080ti

anyone tried crossfire lately?

[rain quartz]

ew red team

[storm osprey]

probably going red team for cpu in a month or so

[long sphinx]

i used sli and for some games were a pain in the ass

[storm osprey]

ill stick with my 1080 for a while longer though

[long sphinx]

with inspector

[prime jasper]

sli is pointless, why get 2x 2070s when you could get a 2080ti at that point?

[long sphinx]

i like that amd doesnt need a dumb bridge

[rain quartz]

there is no SLI for 2070

[prime jasper]

nvlink, same shit different smell

[rain quartz]

not that either

[long sphinx]

nvidia became too greedy i wont give them my money

black friday would be the best choice to pick a navi for like 280 maybe? who know

[wise grove]

Honestly may as well wait for next gen

[long sphinx]

thing is i have a gtx 970

[loud pagoda]

Why cain't i drop screen pictures in here

[long sphinx]

and if i upgrade cpu i cant wait a year more

[loud pagoda]

can't*

[long sphinx]

i think 2 rx 5700 should pair really well with the r7 3700x

no bottlenecks

[rain quartz]

get a 2060 super

from now on im just gonna abbreviate super with "s"

[long sphinx]

jensen wouldnt like that

[rain quartz]

who's that

[long sphinx]

the leather jacket pimp

getting the hos in line for dem benjamins

[plain bone]

the 1080 is still fuckin booming

the ti especially

[latent light]

think 2080 super comes out in a couple weeks

[latent light]

https://tenor.com/view/glue-adhesive-ultra-durable-thermal-paste-gif-13451884

[loud pagoda]

I will sell my gtx 1070 and buy a 2080 super

[rain quartz]

lol

[storm osprey]

thats gonna be quite the upgrade

[steep gust]

@long sphinx Navi won't support crossfire

as far as I know

and multi GPU is garbage just buy the fastest GPU instead of two slower

[long sphinx]

but a 2080ti is like 1000 dollars

3 zeros

fuck that

[steep gust]

$1200

and two $550 GPUs is uh