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vital zephyr
supple bane
i would do that then
supple bane
msi afterburner is an option
vital zephyr
is there any built in option ?
supple bane
not that im aware of
steep gust
@vital zephyr make sure you aren't using the iGPU if you enabled it in your bios 
HwInfo64 for temps imo
supple bane
ok
vital zephyr
and isnt there a way to see without bios
which gpu im using
i see the gtx 970 in the afterburner thingy
latent light
make sure monitor is plugged into graphics card, not the motherboard
supple bane
and then enable cpu temp. gpu temp, and also cpu usage, and gpu usage
if your cpu usage is through the roof and your gpu usage is very low, it will mean you are using the igpu
supple bane
and if your temps are super high, you are thermal throttling
vital zephyr
well
latent light
reason some people get high temps is because they remove the cooler and don't reapply new paste
seen a few people do that
vital zephyr
i got a prebuilt since i was scared building my own pc
and i didnt touch it
Grant can i pm the photos of the cpu temps?
steep gust
Someone in a different server literally just maxed his vcore and bclk and can't understand why its bad
supple bane
@latent light you and i both know that message was aimed at me 
steep gust
This is a repeat of the dude from yesterday
who ran 1.9v into a 9900k
and then killed the iGPU
prime jasper
roflmao
steep gust
and had to do 1.5v and 1ghz
prime jasper
wtf
steep gust
and then couldn't understand why it died
prime jasper
the fact it didnt just go up in flames is nothing short of a miracle
steep gust
and he tried to do a warranty claim through Intel
oh CPUs degrade not die generally
Eventually they do 00 but it takes some time
prime jasper
perhaps 2v is the explosive degradation limit 
steep gust
not enough current to explode
prime jasper
theres only one way to find out 
steep gust
I know people who tried to get CPUs to die
supple bane
im in vc with him, and it is definitely that it is using the igpu not the gpu
but for some reason he cant get into bios
and he has video called me and it is exactly right, spam delete while it boots...
does anyone know why this might be
prime jasper
some mobos are del or f12
supple bane
ye he is in the bios now
so what is it that i am looking for,
like, what would the option be called
if you would have to take a guess
prime jasper
something about onboard video/vga most likely
supple bane
aight
random flax
steep gust
reset the bios to default
steep gust
iGPUs are disabled when a dGPU is detected
clear the cmos battery
if not
Its under some advance tab
supple bane
he has reset it to defaults
steep gust
yeah but via BIOS is disabling it on a hardware level
scarlet pond
See all the GPUs and then disable the integrated one
Of course, but if you don't see it…
Might be another solution
storm osprey
just to make sure, does he have his cable plugged into the gpu?
supple bane
no its fixed
latent light
I thought plugging your monitor into the GPU would always disable the iGPU
supple bane
clearly not
supple bane
Once he reset it to defaults it worked perfectly
He also said that he hadn’t touched the bios
Which I can confirm considering he didn’t know how to get into it
neon vine
does anyone know how to fix the stuttering issue on bfv and bf1. i dont mind the in game stutter but it seems to interfere with my discord. everytime it stutters my discord lags out for a solid 15-30 seconds.
storm osprey
sweet spot 3733
latent light
3200-3600 sweet spot for that 69 
sacred walrus
did you change your name grim?
latent light
yes
sacred walrus
coolio
storm osprey
3600 cas 16 cheapest ram i see on pcparpicker is 140 bucks
latent light
3600 CL16 is binned
storm osprey
wonder what the fps difference is
long sphinx
0.0003 fps
storm osprey
worth
long sphinx
indeed
storm osprey
good thing im patient and can wait for benchmarks to come out
steep gust
@latent light 3600 cl16 is pretty good
long sphinx
holy shit so many 1 stars https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-vega-56-gv-rxvega56gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932030
steep gust
CL17 3733 weak asfk
long sphinx
wonder if those are fake reviews from the competition
long sphinx
yeah but who monitors that
latent light
gigabyte vega 56s die everywhere
long sphinx
the card looks well built
steep gust
Looks mean nothing
latent light
seriously though, gigabyte gets some of the worst batches
long sphinx
that could be it
latent light
I know a miner that bought 12 gigabyte rx 580s and 7 of them were DOA
long sphinx
oof
latent light
then he bought 14 sapphire nitros and nothing was wrong
long sphinx
where are the zotac vegas
latent light
it's probably not the chips but something happening in the manufacturing process
steep gust
DOA happens to everyone
long sphinx
wait zotac only makes nvidia cards?
latent light
yes
long sphinx
well shit
latent light
Zotac, EVGA, PNY are Nvidia exclusive
long sphinx
huh
latent light
btw that gigabyte vega 56 has the VRMs on the back, being passively cooled by the backplate
steep gust
long sphinx
weights over a kilo wtf
steep gust
uh that is pretty normal
long sphinx
not used to that
latent light
a card with 210W tdp will have a heavy heatsink usually
long sphinx
thats why they make the metal pci e slots i guess
long sphinx
palit still alive ayy
latent light
tfw 1050ti is still selling above $150 which is how much the gtx 1650 costs
uninformed people still probably buying them
long sphinx
so the question is
which gpu wont bottleneck the 3700x?
as its compared to the 9700k iirc
which gpu fits best the 9700k? rtx 2080/1080ti?
no 3rd party
fair enough
1080 is awesome
steep gust
which doesn't exist 
long sphinx
oh it exist
steep gust
Really?
I bet if you had better memory
Your FPS goes up
or in some games your CPU gets hit harder than your GPU due to shit optimizing
long sphinx
some old ones yes
long sphinx
bfv forget about it i installed it with free origin access last week ran like shit lol
long sphinx
bf4 perfect 50% 50% ratio
bf1 perfect 95% 95% ratio
old means less cpu use
extreme case crysis 80% gpu use 20% cpu
steep gust
So I feel like you don't understand that there is a lot more involved in games than just percent of CPU and GPU usage
You can use 8 threads really poorly (BFV) and get similar performance to running on 6 threads
long sphinx
ofc but i care about the gpu and cpu the most
also about yesterday i dont mean that next month clock speeds will no longer be relevant
ofc not
long sphinx
long sphinx
lol this has nvidia all over, review of the gigabyte vega 56: " Just like the rest 4/25/2019 1:08:37 PM
Pros: Looks nice
Cons: Everything
Other Thoughts: This is ridiculous AMD should be ashamed i am a huge AMD fan and to see all these people with the same issue I was hesitant but I took the chance because there was a refurbished model so I figured issues would be fixed...NOPE just got it this morning and spent the last 8 and a half hours trying different drivers and reformatting my whole PC also losing some of my personal stuff out of frustration and not paying attention. In getting the same exact issues as the rest no matter the driver no matter the fan, undervolting, overclocking nothing helps...most my other parts are new. I get one of three things and all happen at random times either idle or in a game or browsing the web. I get either just a black screen have to restart or I get just a hard lock and need to restart or I get a bsod...come on guys your giving AMD a bad name...I am sending this back but I'm demanding a different model because this one is plagued with issues that they just cant fix."
5 out of 34 people found this review helpful
xD
long sphinx
these cards were like 800 bucks last year during the mining craze
the person that introduced this "silent mode" on gpus cutting off the fans... is messing up a lot of people pcs
iirc the msi gtx 970 was one of the first
steep gust
Semi passive fan modes are perfectly safe
long sphinx
its the same as a locking mechanism for a gun
it may work on paper
but it can fail
specially when there are so many variables like shitty mobos no airflow etc
the only way the fans should be off is if they are manually turned off
steep gust
Well considering that I haven't heard of a GPU dying from a semi-passive fan mode in a long time
lofty light
I mean I haven't had ant issues with the fan stop mode, and I swap my GPUs fairly regularly
long sphinx
lol we always talk the same way just change the topic
steep gust
yeah because a company isn't going to set its fan curve
to crash your card
in any workload
long sphinx
yes i know how they work im using a custom curve now
thats my point
another way for companies to brick cards
lofty light
If a company set their fans to purposely brick cards that would be a HUGE thing
steep gust
and you know how many people don't buy a company after one bad product?
now imagine if everyone's cards were dying
lofty light
In fact, if they wanted to go the planned obsolescence route I'd assume they'd go with crappy components
steep gust
^
lofty light
Not a bogus fan curve that can be changed in 30 secs
steep gust
have a mosfet fail after X hours under high load in a 20-25C ambient
not hard to do
Hard af to prove you did it
Also if the low side fails the core is almost certainly dead so no epower
lofty light
And a fan curve is very obviously bad when your card is thermal throttling freaking heaps
steep gust
low side fails and 12v to ground
GPU core and rest of the VRM is probably dead 
Since it could draw your entire PSU's 12v rail down one path
and 12v 30-50+ amps will destroy a GPU's PCB
latent light
past parrot
Welp game still unplayable for me
cosmic warren
how come when you have game on another drive it just fucking deletes the whole game if you hit cancel on downloading when it shouldn't even be downloading it should just recognize that your games there like steam origin app is piece of crap.
now i have to redownload the whole game because EA doesn't know how to make a good app like Steam.
lofty stratus
If anyone need help tech stuff I’m the guy
past parrot
No matter the settings I have huge fps drops and what's even more weird is the fact that sometimes, even at 60 fps, I have a lot of stunterring
I was hoping the patch would fix these issues but nop
Basically haven't been able to play for 2 months
This is my last Battlefield if it stays that way
rigid knoll
Byan, to get rid off most stuttering go for dx11 and disable future frame rendering
Somehow stuttering has only gotten worse since launch
past parrot
I'll try
rigid knoll
You might get shitty fps though, I'm down to 60-70fps with those settings, but at least it's mostly smooth
past parrot
I mean this game is so badly optimized
I would take 60/70
It works more thanks
Still poor performances tho
prime jasper
disable vsync if thats on
past parrot
If was off
And as soon as I play a 64 players gamemode
It starts being shit again
Unplayable
rigid knoll
Your cpu, gpu, ram, resolution, quality settings?
past parrot
Ryzen 2600x
1060 6GB
8GB ram
1080 res
Everything in mid/low
I used to be able to play in high/ultra btw
prime jasper
RAM is at minimum spec, but you said it was worse on dx12?
past parrot
Yeah DX12 was literally unplayable
prime jasper
you would get considerably better performance with a dual channel 16GB kit
rigid knoll
A while ago I saw in a conversation that it's known issue that the more content is added, the slower the perf gets. Anyone know if there's any truth to this, because that's what seems to be happening. But it doesn't sound right, why would any content outside of currently loaded ones slow down your perf.
prime jasper
also update windows to build 1903 if you havent yet
past parrot
I mean I wouldnt mind but I used to be able to play easily before
The patches destroyed the game for me
rigid knoll
Killa, does that actually do something good for a change?
prime jasper
it can
its always worth a shot
along with updating BIOS/chipset drivers if you havent in a while
rigid knoll
Tbh, I don't think I've ever updated those on my current setup. Closing in 3yrs
prime jasper
ouch
supple bane
@past parrot , is your ram 1x8 or 2x4gb?
past parrot
it's 1x8
supple bane
theres your issue
past parrot
Oh?
supple bane
that is single channel, bf hates single channel
prime jasper
yes, dual channel works much better for both battlefield and Ryzen in general
past parrot
I guess i'll have to buy some RAM then
supple bane
past parrot
Not that I mind too much, i had to anyway
supple bane
just get another 1x8 stick that is the exact same as yours
on average, you will get an extra 70 fps for having dual channel ram in bf
compared to single channel
past parrot
I'm a PC noob
So that's good to hear
i'll just go buy 8gb during the week
Thank you for the help 👌
supple bane
np
prime jasper
make sure its the same make/model
supple bane
^
prime jasper
never mix n match
supple bane
it SHOULD work if its a different model but the same speeds. but i wouldnt recommend it
rigid knoll
But apparently devs have said the stutter is not specific to any hardware setup
rigid knoll
Yes ofc. I mean, I'm closing on 100fps with ffr on, but quite unplayable with the stutter. Around 60-65fps without ffr and pretty smooth
supple bane
but bryan's issue is defiantly the ram
rigid knoll
Probably yeah
scarlet pond
More RAM won't give you more FPS, is not what RAM is used for
That's CPU power and GPU
supple bane
scarlet pond
CPU to elaborate the process
supple bane
why dont you read the messages i sent above
and maybe watch the short vid i sent
prime jasper
I have no time
but I can spam nonsense in the bfv discord tech channel
supple bane
scarlet pond
I saw the video. To upgrade ram when you system can already go above 60 FPS, at least for my opinion, is useless
prime jasper
just because it cracks 60 doesnt mean its smooth
supple bane
so he needs more ram
scarlet pond
Maybe in BFV is more convenient because that's the structure of the game
storm osprey
yea because you want a smooth 30 fps
prime jasper
steep gust
and RAM can give you FPS
Not sure what you think stores the files / commands needed by your CPU once cache runs out 😩
storm osprey
smooth 30 fps > avg 120 that varies
steep gust
That's a little extreme
storm osprey
average doesnt matter though
storm osprey
who knew consoles had it right this whole time
rigid knoll
How do you lose trusted btw?
prime jasper
recolored from white....to white?
supple bane
no from grey to white
prime jasper
oh....the horror
supple bane
ik, its a tragedy
storm osprey
i have ptsd from it
(according to mods)
580 still comes with world war z and the div 2
scarlet pond
@supple bane you know what it was wrong in what you said? That dual channel gives less possibility to go in bottleneck, so then the system can run smoothly. This I'd caused because the system is not perfectly balanced, maybe because there's an high end CPU with a low/mid level CPU. In that case, more RAM will help the CPU to process, and so give a little bit of more FPS
supple bane
ok
wanna know what is wrong with what you said ?
that is completely not true...
wanna know how i know this ?
because if you paid attention to the vid i sent
he doesnt have more ram
supple bane
yes.
scarlet pond
I didn't say dual channel with double the total of RAM
supple bane
scarlet pond
In every case, with double the total of RAM or the same amount, the dual channel will always help the CPU to calculate the process
I wrote wrong
You right
With more RAM, you understood more amount
My fault while writing
I meant the same amount, but with more stick
steep gust
RAM doesn't help anything calculate
storm osprey
cheapest 1600 ive seen other than microcenter prices
steep gust
Higher bandwidth (dual channel) decreases the time your CPU has to wait to access system memory
supple bane
but it doesnt mean that the cpu will bottleneck the system because of the ram
the cpu doesnt get any less powerful
its just you will get lower fps
scarlet pond
@steep gust Sayd it right. I expressed my self wrong when saying "help the process"
steep gust
But even extreme systems can benefit from the extra bandwidth
I know someone who planned to run a 3175x with 8 cores and no hyperthreading with dangerous voltage on his RAM just for that last 5% from memory bandwidth (and latency)
That plan hit some issues and won't happen anymore but it still shows in normal benchmarks of the 3175X vs 9900k
scarlet pond
No one sad that if you already have an high end system, can't get benefits
frank crag
They should have a gamemode dedicated to conquest on halvoy but only using some parts of the map and instead of the normal out of bounds it will be the storm
supple bane
great idea. but #battlefield-legacy-titles would have been a better chat for it
frank crag
#battlefield-legacy-titles They should have a gamemode dedicated to conquest on halvoy but only using some parts of the map and instead of the normal out of bounds it will be the storm
How’s that
storm osprey
LOL
supple bane
prime jasper
storm osprey
!!jumbo
silent oasisBOT
frank crag
And I’m not being sarcastic I actually ment hows that
prime jasper
supple bane
click on the blue #battlefield-legacy-titles
storm osprey
thats fucking hilarious
frank crag
I don’t quite know how discord works yet
frank crag
Ok thanks
storm osprey
youre in #technology chat right now, youre talking battlefield, so granty is saying go to the #battlefield-legacy-titles chat for this
frank crag
<@&174949751152836608> <@&140941611415633920> You should have a gamemode dedicated to conquest on halvoy but only using some parts of the map and instead of the normal out of bounds it will be the storm
supple bane
quaint topaz
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latent sapphire
frank crag
Cool thanks @north crow
elfin scroll
ping
frank crag
Not sarcasm
elfin scroll
pong
prime jasper
lmao
north crow
supple bane
also, maybe read the rules especially rule 5. guess you are new to discord so it isnt as big of a deal
storm osprey
!!r5
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latent light
There's this guy in war thunder discord with a 1200W psu but only has a 4770K and GTX 970
Is that a problem
violet plank
maybe 1 of the 12v rails kills itself out of boredom
red trellis
@steep gust yes is VPPM, i post the image previusly with the voltages https://imgur.com/a/ij3yxH0
but i think is asociated with the ram i not sure
spark falcon
Anyone else's game freeze every time they get a kill? On Xbox? It's happening to me every time and it's v frustrating. 😩
red trellis
also my ryzen 1600, is overclocking auto some cores are up to 3.8
molten bramble
Tried doing a hard reset on the XB1? There are about a half dozen detailed walkthroughs and/or videos on doing that.
hazy veldt
I’ll give it a go thanks
latent light
Very awesome
Playing a game in 1080p on a 4k monitor won't be a blurry mess with integer scaling
noble trout
Hello, I am new here and have a weird problem. I have a gtx1080 and a ryzen 7 2700x and play battlefield 5 on ultra in 1444p.
Sometimes, when i play for more than about 30 minutes I like to change the settings to low (because on ultra I have
100% GPU usage), because I want my GPU to get a rest. But still, on the lowest setting (still in 1444p) my GPU works on 100%.
Is this normal? I dont want my GPU working on 100% everytime i play, is there a way to fix this "problem" ? Thanks in advance !
supple bane
that isnt a problem
it is perfectly fine
its the fact you are playing in 1440p that is making the gpu so stressed
if you put it on 1080p it wont be
but like i said, it is perfectly fine for your gpu to be on 100%
steep gust
You will never see 100% CPU usage in task manager playing BFV
Since BFV doesn't use 16 threads to 100%
and task manager shows the average thread usage as CPU usage
storm osprey
isnt he asking about GPU not CPU
supple bane
^
noble trout
GPU
storm osprey
also, a game like bfv and if you have no fps cap you should see high gpu usage all the time
noble trout
I have an fps cap on 60
so the 100% GPU usage on ultra and 100% GPU usage on low is not necesarely the same equivalent of stress on my graphics card?
supple bane
seriously, dont worry about it
supple bane
it wont damage it being at 100%
noble trout
ok, thanks guys 😃
supple bane
i wonder why spotify on pc is so good compared to mobile. like on mobile you only get 6 skips and hour, you cant listen to a certain song, you cant skip to a part in a song, but on pc, you get all those things 
storm osprey
hmm, i always thought you had to pay either way to play what you want
supple bane
nope, on pc without premium,the only thing that shows i dont have premium is that i get ads
the rest is acting like i have premium
supple bane
we had this discussion before, i really cant tell the difference between high end quality and "normal", same goes for hz, i seriously cant see the difference between 240 hz and 60
like, honestly
maybe the audio thing is because i have never really tried high end audio stuffs, only
these headphones i have now are as far as im aware the best i have ever had,
hyper x cloud stingers
prime jasper
audio is dependent not only on your headphones/amp, but also the quality of the source file
supple bane
yup ik
so i guess i cant really say that i cant tell the difference in terms of audio, as i have only heard this quality that i am using rn
yes i have played games very briefly with high end headsets. but not long enough to properly test em with music
storm osprey
with my work setup i did a sound quality test and got 5/6 right
the problem is that it takes intent listening to really tell a difference, its not like from going to tape to cd
supple bane
i decided to try and code my own personally pc part picker... worst decision of my life. this useful little compatibility checker has turned into a program that i have been hammering for a week and still isnt close to be complete 
also @storm osprey how would i go about completing that ?
the test i mean
storm osprey
supple bane
ye i give up already
they all sound the same
i got to 5 and they all sounded the exact same
so i rage quit
storm osprey
LOL
i mean, my work set up msrp is 420 bucks
and even then it takes some intent listening
supple bane
storm osprey
schiit stack modi/magni and hd 6xx
supple bane
wait
i just noticed that my headphones are into my monitors port
maybe if i use my pc!!!
i could tell the difference
storm osprey
lol dont think that will help much
prime jasper
unless you mean usb
supple bane
no i mean, monitors 3.5mm or front io of pc 3.5mm
storm osprey
headphones themselves are the biggest factor
prime jasper
why not the rear i/o? straight into the mobo
prime jasper
lul
storm osprey
nice
storm osprey
amps arent necessary
supple bane
i guessed all of them 
storm osprey
good guessing, quick take a test if you have to
prime jasper
50 pounds? those some heavy ass cans you got
supple bane
hyper x cloud stingers broskies
storm osprey
bleh
prime jasper
your neck must be a mangled mess with that weight
supple bane
oh i am not supporting these headphones in anyway shape or form lol
they are ok for the price
storm osprey
get superlux with a pad replacement
supple bane
but do feel very cheap and light weight
storm osprey
those headphones are awesome
supple bane
really. 30 pound ?
they seem...
cheap.
how would you compare them to the Philips one ?
storm osprey
the build quality is meh, but hardly anyone will say for the price that the sound is way good
shp 9500 are more comfortable, more musical, better build
supple bane
i would rather spend some more for a little extra i think
supple bane
100 dollars for the phillips and 40 bucks for the other ones
so its a 40 pound difference
in my language, they are 30 pound and 80 pound
storm osprey
so depends what you want, its been a while since ive listened to the 2, but sound quality there wasnt a major difference so if thats your main concern i wouldnt pay twice as much to get the shp unless comfort and better build quality are worth the added cost for you
superlux are brighter, light on bass, better soundstage
shp has slightly more bass, but not bass heavy by any means, smaller soundstage
for gaming i would go with the superlux, for music shp 9500
storm osprey
how far out the sounds are
supple bane
ohh
prime jasper
someone once explained to me that a bad soundstage is as if all the instruments/sounds are sitting in your lap
rather than being fanned around you as it would be in person
storm osprey
for example a close soundstage seems like there are two speakers on each ear vs open actually listening to the music in a room
supple bane
the thing is right, i want to listen to them to see if i can actually notice the difference
and the only way to do that is to return them
and i cba for all the effort
storm osprey
return the superlux or shp9500 to see the difference between the 2?
supple bane
well either that or decide which one i want, and if i cant tell the difference between the one i use now and them return them
prime jasper
well whats the most you would be willing to comfortably spend?
storm osprey
get both and A/B them and return one or both
prime jasper
perhaps see whats available online for that price and see what comes up?
storm osprey
decent pads are cosmos pads that cost like 10 bucks
supple bane
well thats the thing killa, i litterally have no idea what i am looking for
it feels like a needle in the haystack
prime jasper
yes but on amazon you'll get a list with your price ceiling
supple bane
how much is that mic
storm osprey
70 bucks
supple bane
ill have a think about it
i should go to a pc place with headphones on display and try some super nice ones just to confirm i can tell the difference, because as far as im aware im fucking deaf
storm osprey
in audio, ignorance is bliss
supple bane
the thing that worries me is that i have super cheap headphones that i use to run in, and i cant tell the difference between my main headphones and them. that can mean 1 of two things, my cloud stingers suck some fat ass or i am deaf
storm osprey
oh, if you plan on using these on the go or not in a private scenario, i would get the shp9500
storm osprey
any open back headphone will
supple bane
frail sapphire
Fix echo on a cheaper headset? Tips anyone?
latent light
echo can be internet related
frail sapphire
yo
lofty light
Dawg
latent light
lofty light
Yes
wraith tartan
was cleaning through my house and found a disc copy of 1942 and vietnam I had and I installed them on my windows 7 computer and they both installed fine but when I try to run the game it does not launch. any fixes how to get it to work I tried using google and said to use windxp service pack 3 compatible mode but it did not work out. would love to play these games once again
serene glacier
I have really huge problems playing bf5 without framerate drops. I thought it was because my old gpu, so I upgraded and bought a rx580 in sale for full hd gaming only. My cpu is also a bit older, its a fx 8320e. But in my internet research I found out that the cpu should be fine with bf5 on full hd and 60 fps. But I cant even play on very low without huge problems. Conquest is impossible, I think because of the huge map and the amount of players. I want to upgrade my cpu soon, in 2-3 months. I also have 8gb ram, and I so a video from Testing Games, that shows how games performes with 8gb, 12gb or 16gb ram. Bf5 was running horrible with 8gb ram. So is my 8gb ram for bf5 too slow? Should I upgrade for 16gb ram. I just want to play with average 50-60 fps. Sorry for my bad english, but I really need someones help.
crude storm
tbh check forums, bfv is not running well, even on top hardware
8gb ram is not enough imho
bfv seems to like dual channel ram
unborn forge
@serene glacier It's your shitty cpu and single channel memory
crude storm
serene glacier
thankss
supple bane
Ye single channel ram is the main cause of your problems there
serene glacier
but I have dual channel. two 4gb
prime jasper
8 just isnt enough
crude storm
yeah, we are all eager awaiting these
latent light
@serene glacier yeah fx-8320e won't even get console performance, you should wait for the Ryzen 5 3600 though and get DDR4 16GB 3000 or 3200 MHz ram dual channel
serene glacier
if the ryzen 5 3600 really will be that good
latent light
The 2600 is already amazing for the money, 3600 is said to be even 20-25% faster
prime jasper
b450 isnt expensive at all
slim carbon
anyone know what really good amd motherboards out there i have acheap one i got for like 60 bucks do more expensive ones make that much of a difference.
supple bane
that wont make your system faster. no
slim carbon
hmmm mine hasnt had any problems recently so maybe im good with what it is
supple bane
the only thing a new motherboard will give you is maybe some better overclocking performance and more expandability
slim carbon
occasionally bf v crashes and assassins creed odyseyy and shadow of the tomb raider cause my pc to reboot but no other games have caused that to happen
supple bane
that sounds like an overclock issue,
slim carbon
I replaced psu and it didnt fix it one of the only parts i had from my original buiild in 2015
what could i do to work on it
i have a ryzen 7 2700x and a 1050 ti
supple bane
do you have an overclock enabled ?
supple bane
never mind then
slim carbon
lol
prime jasper
update your BIOS and chipset drivers
supple bane
you can google how to do that
slim carbon
Its only ever rebooted while playing assassins creed odyseyy and shadow of the tomb raider would those games specifically be able to trigger something nothing else has?
ill try updating the bios i havent tried on wither of those games in a few weeks
prime jasper
outdated drivers can cause very strange issues
slim carbon
and i have played shadow of the tomb raider before and then i played odyseyy and then it started doing it to shadow of the tomb raider
but ill try that and test it out
prime jasper
update windows too
slim carbon
ive done that since ive tried playing them so that should be good
prime jasper
build 1903 is the lastest so if you arent on that
slim carbon
for windows?
prime jasper
yes
slim carbon
how do i check my build
slim carbon
yup im on 1903
steep gust
QVO 
latent light
QV
prime jasper
qlc?
frosty lion
i need help here i buy bfV and im gettin 40fps on ultra or low no matter what map or server im playing ...
i have i5-6600
16gm ram
gtx1060
prime jasper
your processor is minimum spec
frosty lion
yea i know but i play bf1 on ultra on 60-70 fps
prime jasper
indeed....which has lower minimum specs
frosty lion
idk are the game so much complex to play
frosty lion
its suprises me that is such difference beetwen 1 and V
i thought okay maybe i could atleast play on med or low ... NOPE
prime jasper
Im guessing youre at 1080p which leans more heavily on your cpu anyway
prime jasper
that makes it even more heavily cpu bound
frosty lion
should i try on 1440?
prime jasper
I mean you can try but your GPU will be sweating on that too
frosty lion
yea i guess its shame that i cant play it ... and all the cool content are gettin out rn
prime jasper
planning to upgrade soon?
latent light
@frosty lion sadly BFV needs more than 4 cores to run stable
frosty lion
then u need 300€+ cpu
prime jasper
a used 7700k is 300+?
latent light
you can get a 6 cores/12 thread CPU for like $100 these days
storm osprey
1600 was 90 bucks the other day
latent light
R5 1600 has been $80 at microcenter for months
frosty lion
i dont want tu buy used cpu
latent light
I'm waiting for the 3600 though, should be a decent 25% jump from my 1600
storm osprey
i dont have microcenter =[
frosty lion
microcenter is in usa
latent light
based on leaked benchmarks, a stock Ryzen 5 3600 should match a stock i7-8700K
frosty lion
what socket does ryzen has
latent light
AM4
prime jasper
and new RAM
latent light
nah
i5-6600 uses DDR4
but yeah since you're on that chipset, your biggest upgrade can only be the i7-7700K
prime jasper
probably ddr4-2133 or 2400 at beast...not ideal for Ryzen in any case
frosty lion
like i said i need to invest at least 200+ to play this game ...
latent light
yeah BFV is very CPU demanding
even if you do get a 7700K, you will still see some performance drops occasionally
Intel 6th and 7th gen CPUs have aged terribly
probably the worst of any previous gen
remember how future proof the i5-2500K and i7-2600K was
frosty lion
its the problem in this game only
i play r6s high bf1 ultra hunt high wildlands high ...
latent light
do you have single or dual channel RAM
storm osprey
@frosty lion im usa, we just dont have them in my state, AZ, we have frys electronics though
frosty lion
what that mean i have 2x8gb
latent light
yeah that's dual then
frosty lion
is that good or bad
frosty lion
i think that was in bf1 too i rather play 16-40 game modes it runs smoothly but 64 sometimes it droped
latent light
more players = more CPU usage
and it's not only the players themselves but the actions they are taking too
like blowing stuff up or driving vehicles
molten coral
💥
frosty lion
well im just happy they destroyed start of this gam ewith shit trailers and feminits bs that i didnt preorder and give 60€ for game that i cannot play 😄
frosty lion
i played 1942 , 2 ,3 ,bc2, 4,1
the old are awesome
even singleplayer when u play vs bot was awesome
supple bane
is it possible to sell ps4 accounts ?
i have my ps4 account with a few games on, but i dont play on it
so i wanna know if its possible to sell it
storm osprey
that would have to be on a trust system and probably have no sense of legality behind it
i doubt its against the law but possibly against some TOS
supple bane
@storm osprey , i might be able to get these for free second hand, should i take them?
storm osprey
i mean, its free
most logitech products are fine, but not worth the cost (other than mice)
supple bane
but like, my cousin said he doesnt want them, and he said if i want them have them, other wise he will bin them
and he said either is fine
i guess i may as well take them and if they arent any good i can just bin them myself
storm osprey
being a slight audiophile seeing "logitech headphones" and "wireless" kinda make me cringe
supple bane
so they are no good then ?
ill still take them and see what i personally think of them, and again, if i no likey ill bin them
storm osprey
most logitech headphones are meh all around, its just the price that makes them not recommended, so for free i wouldnt pass them up myself
supple bane
aight
the reason he wants to get rid of them is because they are uncomfortable
for him at least
he is having a complete setup make over, including the pc, he went and got 2 32" curved 1440p monitors yesterday, so he is making me really jelly
supple bane
the thing is right, he is moving out soon, so now he has is own place he has more room for his setup, so he is going ham on it
and he is going to be living a 5 min bike ride from me, so its gonna be great having game nights round his
storm osprey
ayy that works out
supple bane
that gave me an idea, imagine a bf lan party, 
. ik it would never happen, it would just a cool thought
would suck for me, considering i would have to ship my pc across the pond and all
steep gust
@supple bane no selling accounts
storm osprey
i mean, he can sell them, he just cant advertise it here and you dont condone it
supple bane
well ye i didnt plan on advertising it here
storm osprey
i figured, just betrayed made it sound like you simply cant sell it
steep gust
and its not for discussion here
storm osprey
from what i just saw on forums you can sell it, its not illegal, but it does break TOS and can get the account banned
i dont see how the discussion is against any rules here but whatever, convo is done either way
storm osprey
just had a co worker say "yea thats the motherboard right there, a s u rock"
prime jasper
ass rock lel
supple bane
is it bad that i am genuinely concerned that i might wake someone up because of my god damn keyboard
stupid blues
storm osprey
aliaz 65g ftw
supple bane
i might use my old membrane just to mitigate this for tonight
latent light
my razer greens were loud
supple bane
i wish i had like a decibel counter thingy
i still wouldnt usually complain about this kb tho
i love it to bits
its stylish, feels well built
and if you want you can have it in reds which i think would have made it even better
supple bane
im not sure if i prefer linear or tactile
supple bane
i still cant decide
frozen fractal
dont know where to ask for this, but is bf5 making a whole pc crash and reboot a problem for others ?
latent light
does it happen in other games?
prime jasper
weird bf1 glitch https://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1-1a8064bdf9fd.gif
frozen fractal
no
latent light
@frozen fractal what is your hardware
frozen fractal
gigabyte aorus master
i9-9900k, 4.7 ghz, 80c max
rtx 2070 msi gaming z, running at 63c max
ram 2x8 gb 3866 mhz, cl 18,
sitting at 1080, been locking my framerate to 100fps with rivatuner, only a slight stutter because of assignments in game,
3d mark, timespy stress test i passing with a 98.3%
steep gust
reset your overclock
frozen fractal
have been reset many times
steep gust
or test if its actually stable
supple bane
just try remove the overclock and see what happens
because chances are the overclock is what is causing the crashin
steep gust
BFV has AVX in it
Lots of people love to skip testing AVX because its hot and unstable
latent light
yeah overclocks are still pretty unstable in BFV
frozen fractal
thanks, will do some testing with avx later
steep gust
I had zero issues with my overclock in BFV
because I tested it in the harshest scenarios
Prime95 Small FFTs w/ AVX is 👌
frozen fractal
how long does that test take ?
steep gust
Now it will get hot
steep gust
like if you are pushing 80C in BFV it will thermal throttle 
frozen fractal
will see,
fans and voltage is on auto right now, so have a lot of leverage on the oc
its just on bios, multicore enhancement
frozen fractal
so, have a LOT of room to make things stable
sorry 😄
taking the easy way because i been very busy since i upgraded 😄
latent light
my only next upgrade is going from my current Ryzen 5 1600 to the upcoming 3600
frozen fractal
nice, im really looking forward to amd giving intel some pressure
latent light
that's if gigabyte releases a BIOS update for 1st gen motherboards
frozen fractal
not with gaming,
steep gust
rEaL wOrLd GaMiNg
frozen fractal
but overall value for the money, they have 😄
frozen fractal
hahaha
i never owned amd cpu,
went from pentium 4, qx9650, i7-2600, and now this 9900k
latent light
tbh, I'd never pay more than $200 for a CPU, rather put most of my money towards graphics card
latent light
You could of got the R9 3900X for the same price
latent light
G-sync is Nvidia, not intel nor AMD
supple bane
the 9900k is gonna be irrelevant once zen 2 comes out
frozen fractal
nevermind
steep gust
ray tracing is garbage 😩
frozen fractal
ye
latent light
9900K isn't a good buy as of right now
steep gust
It might be useful in like 5-10 years
frozen fractal
i know
frozen fractal
nope, but after going through a bigger life crisis, i didnt care about the price to performance, just wanted what i been saving up for all year
latent light
if I were you, I'd gotten the 8700K for roughly $350 and use that $130 towards a better graphics card
supple bane
well if i was you i would have got the 2700x and have even more towards a gpu
latent light
because at the end of the day, 8700K and 9900K will get similar performance in games
frozen fractal
the plan is to upgrade gpu every gen from now on, so would rather use more on the 9900k
steep gust
that's a
Considering that if the SUPER leaks are true (most won't be) you just dropped $1200 on a GPU for it to get replaced by a refresh less than a year in
frozen fractal
1200 USD?
steep gust
yeah that's the normal price of a 2080ti
supple bane
he has a 2070
frozen fractal
i bought a 2070
latent light
yeah the super leaks are showing that the new 2080 super will have the same chip as the current 2080ti and the new 2080ti super will have a whole new chip
steep gust
It would make more sense to buy a used high end card for the same price
The 2080ti super would be the unlocked TU106 core used in the RTX Titan most likely 😩
latent light
frozen fractal
😄
steep gust
but like
latent light
we should find out on July 2nd
steep gust
if I buy a 1080ti when Turing was announced for $500
frozen fractal
we have a 25% tax here in denmark, ended up giving 640 usd for my 2070
msi gaming z
steep gust
That's better performance than a $500 2070 and I can then buy the next gen high end card used again once its replaced
I have been thinking about buying a second 1080 for SLI just for benchmarks
frozen fractal
hahaha 😄
steep gust
It wouldn't even be that expensive
latent light
someone on facebook selling a 1080 for $300
steep gust
yeah $250-300
latent light
steep gust
Would probably buy the same card i have just to make it easier on my life if I buy waterblocks
supple bane
let me re word that
steep gust
latent light
1660ti or 2060 or the upcoming RX 5700
steep gust
Depends on the resolution
supple bane
1080p
latent light
Ryzen 5 2600 would be perfectly enough at 4K and even 1440p
steep gust
yeah well 1440p 144hz is a more demanding GPU than 1080p 144hz
frozen fractal
1080p masterrace ❤
supple bane
1440p is probs best tbh
supple bane
best balance between detail and performance
latent light
you can't play BFV in 4K 120 fps with a single 2080Ti unless you play on low settings
steep gust
and I don't care about the inferior 4k 120hz monitors if you are buying 4k 120hz you go balls to the wall 😩
4k low > 1080p ultra with 'ray tracing'
latent light
4K 27" PPI 😩
supple bane
meh
latent light
4K at 27" is crisp
latent light
24" is pretty small monitor
supple bane
i love 24"
latent light
27" at 1080p is bad
frozen fractal
im not playing bf with raytracing, stutterfest for ages
latent light
iirc 22" 1080p and 27" 1440p have same pixel density
frozen fractal
quake is fun thou
steep gust
its not really actual ray tracing unless you use the demos 😩
frozen fractal
4k for phone or get out
latent light
yeah 1080p is plenty on phones, don't know why companies try to push 1440p or even 4K when higher res just means less battery life
😔
frozen fractal
because "more is better"
supple bane
but you get less battery
frozen fractal
ye, but if you are marketing high res or high battery, high res win over the average user
supple bane
i think i would take the higher battery
frozen fractal
me too
but just remember a lot bough the xbox one x and ps4 pro because of 4k gaming
marketing is everything
latent light
PS4 Pro played most of everything at like 1440p, Xbox One X was at like 1800p
both systems would only do native 4K on sports and indie games
frozen fractal
yep
and then we have tekken ._.
tekken 7 is 1080p on pro,
720, on base xbox one, with removed depth of field, and ambient occlusion
dont seems like tekken 7 is not enhanced for the X, so same setting <.<
supple bane
is there a way i can make like a system similar to what game straming services like shaow use
my dad said instead of me building him a system, is there a way i can do something similar to what shadow do with my pc and his old latop
im basically trying to say can i make a virtual machine, but it being on my laptop and the host being my desktop
molten bramble
Sounds like you’re attempting to setup a thin-client system, but in a virtual container.
It’s doable, but on Windows as I recall you need Windows Server.
You also need a network to support that, and preferably that’s hardwired.
supple bane
my plan was to make a virtual machine, and then remote into the vm using the laptop
molten bramble
Yeah, that’s basically a thin-client (though they tend to not have storage and instead use the quota assigned them on the server).
supple bane
ye i think it would just be easier to build my dad a system
you need windows 10 pro and shitt
all stuff i dont have
steep gust
remote desktop requires pro / server
You might be able to run linux but remote desktop like that even over the same network has its issues
west elm
what the actual hell is about to happen with nvidia
nvidia is about to release new gpus that will lit up the pc master race
undone badger
hi
my resolution scale is greyed out
i got a pretty crappy graphics card but i played at solid 60fps during beta with resolution scale on 80%
just got the game today
storm osprey
ill just tell you right now, youre not gonna get the same performance as beta
beta imo was the best time for performance for bfv
undone badger
ah
storm osprey
its only slowly gotten worse
undone badger
but I'm getting 45 atm, still not too bad
but i feel like if i can reduce res scale, it might be a bit better
its greyed out for some reason
storm osprey
idk if this matters but try full screen if youre not in it
undone badger
Yeah already on fs
west elm
don't believe in me?
take a look at this
https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForce/status/1144591280338395137
prime jasper
i need help
i downloaded bfbc2, go into vietnam, and it asks for the serial key, i enter the one i got at purchase, and it doesnt work
i tried without/with dashes and still
west elm
did you redeemed it on origin?
prime jasper
ah, ok
nope, not valid 😦
it says invalid when i enter the bfbc vietnam one, says already used when i enter the bfbc2 one
says code in use for the bfbc2 one
latent light
