the 10 extra fps isnt worth another 70 bucks
#technology
storm osprey
unless you want to game at 1080p 144hz with higher settings and want to make sure youll hit your fps, i would get the 1660ti instead
math wise, the performance increase doesnt justify the cost increase
storm osprey
1660ti and 2060 are both good 144hz gpus
sour ivy
I'm expecting 144 consistent in r6 tho
latent light
1660ti not so much
sour ivy
Is that realistic?
latent light
at low settings maybe
storm osprey
2060 is slightly better for a moderate price increase
latent light
a game like AC odyssey, you won't even hit 100 fps at lowest settings
sour ivy
Aight
storm osprey
granted idk your other specs
its really a pick what you want scenario imo, i would personally probably get the 1660ti, but if you or anyone else got the 2060 i wouldnt feel they wasted their money
storm osprey
just looking at that (assuming you have the 1060 6gb) the 1660ti doesnt look like a worthwhile upgrade
damnit, thats the a non ti video
seems like a slight upgrade, i would probably go 2060 in that case if you really want to upgrade
sour ivy
Aight
Thanks nyphon
@storm osprey ok so I just get terrible performance, what's the best way to analyze what's going on
Because I've gotten new everything other than psu
So either I'm tripping or the psu is causing lag
sour ivy
Every game I feel like it's worse than it should he
steep gust
uh well a PSU won't cause lag
sour ivy
Be*
steep gust
Most likely you have something running in the background
sour ivy
Its impossible?
supple bane
maybe you are thermal throttling ? do you have good cooling ?
sour ivy
No thermal throttling
steep gust
Its impossible for your PSU to cause lag
Its entirely job is to literally covert AC to DC
and if that fails, your system shuts off
storm osprey
what happens if he doesnt have enough wattage?
supple bane
he crashes
storm osprey
theres no fine line where hes just not getting the performance he should?
steep gust
it trips OCP
and shuts off
If your system draws 400w on a 350w PSU, it might handle that short term until it hits OTP or OCP (random numbers)
Which just means it powers off
sour ivy
Is there a way to check if my shit is getting enough voltage
steep gust
What is your PSU?
sour ivy
Erh
I dont know it off the top of my head
Its corsair or evga
Like 550 w or 500
It's like 4 years old max
supple bane
just open your case and it will usually have the name plastered over the side
steep gust
maybe on the rear
sour ivy
1060 is like 1.5 years old
Ryzen 2600x is a year old
Not even a year
Mobo same age as cpu
And my ram is 3 or 4 years old
supple bane
ye your componets wont age just yet
steep gust
Have you tried a clean windows install?
sour ivy
Ye
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strong breach
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static lodge
yes, BUT i just fixed it. i never selected the resolution that had the high hertz stamp on it. my bad
steep gust
Its not suppose to
but yes
efficiency also goes to ass at higher temps, so its a positive feedback
latent light
I like to buy PSUs that have 200W over what my system pulls
I got 650W now, it would shut off underload back when I had an overclocked Fx-8350 and GTX 770
now it's fine with my R5 1600 and RX 580
steep gust
And 8350 and 770 shouldn't draw 650w 
steep gust
9590 says high
latent light
I had a beefy air cooler for my 8350
think it was 6 or 8 heatpipes
dual fans
lol I think this is the exact heatsink design that cooler master used for ryzen stock coolers
I like those kind of coolers because VRM airflow
did you see that dual pump cooler
at computex
steep gust
I love patents choking the market
latent light
whose patents
Intels?
or cooler brands
all I want is a low profile cooler with a copper vapor chamber
I like this cooler but it's only on par with the Wraith Prism iirc
this one too
steep gust
For Europe
Which is why their are brands that aren't selling their AIOs in the US
Because the patent is based in the USA
steep gust
and a bunch of other companies
steep gust
custom loop is my next cooler
way more efficient over time
just buy a new waterblock for a new socket, instead of a brand new cooler
prime jasper
I dont trust custom cooling loops
My biggest fear is leaks D:
I'd rather just get a prebuilt CPU cooler and a Hybrid GPU model
little comet
liquid coolers are only really needed for really high end graphics cards right?
prime jasper
the last time i using cooling loops,its kill my vga,so i stay away from custom liquid
violet plank
there is no real need for liquid cooling,learn basic thermodynamics,e.g correct airflow of your case and you are good
get a noctua d15 or likewise and you outperform pretty much any aio watercooler
for custom loops,it's about showcase,little bit better oc,if you wanna hardcore oc you go other ways 
and custom loops are expensive af,and ofc the maintenance,keeping the loop clean,enough liquid and so on
i used to build custom loops as a hobby,huge and expensive timesink
jade tangle
steep gust
@prime jasper That sounds entirely your fault 🤔
@little comet Heatpipes have a physical limit (thanks thermodynamics), and so more and more GPUs will be hybrid as power draw goes
AIOs tie a D15 because of shit pumps, bad blocks, and not great radiators
A custom loop can easily keep a 300-400w GPU at 30-40C
with GPU Boost and a custom BIOS, I could probably get another 100mhz out of my GPU if I dropped 30C off load temp
prime jasper
@violet plank The more heat a CPU has is a factor in CPU life depreciation. Liquid cooling not only helps this, but liquid cooling also allows for the transfer of heat more efficiently. Also what Betrayed said, heatpipes have a physical limit.
I'd personally have my CPU running at 55C under load than 70-80C.
steep gust
IIRC its around 300-350W that heatpipes shit themselves and just become copper tubes in terms of heat transfer
prime jasper
lmao
violet plank
@prime jasper true about custom loops,but not about aio,never seen a cpu under full all core load run cooler on an aio vs high end air cooler.my 7700k for example runs on 4.8ghz all core max temp 55-60C,isolated case,but perfectly optimized airflow.in the same system is a 1080ti running @ 2.1ghz around 60-65C under full load.whait aio do better than air coolers is getting a bit better idle temps.
latent light
Custom loop would seem to make your GPU live longer too because the VRMs are getting nice cool waterflow
violet plank
i've never seen a gpu or cpu die cause of heat (within specifications)
not even of old age
latent light
I've seen a GPU die because of VRMs overheating
violet plank
brand ?`
latent light
It was a GTX 480
violet plank
evga ?
what i see a lot causing heating problems,thus system problems is fucking dirty rigs,either by smoking or/and dust,never ever getting cleaned,those rigs die a lot after a year or so under heavy use
disgusting af if you open such thing btw
at the end it's a question of money and time you are willing to spend,i'm past that,specially the time thing
i sold my last custom loop i made for 6k$,but the time i spent building that thing...
once i had a psu that literally exploded (my guess faulty fuse),that killed the mb,cpu and gpu with it,for some reasons the ram survived 
@steep gust even lower,don't think that there is any high end air cooler that can go past 250W,or at least none that fits in any standard case lul
jade tangle
will there be eatx boards for 570 chipset?=
latent light
yes
well I think there was one shown by Asus
and there's the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme which is EATX but costs like $500-600
jade tangle
what do those 500-600 boards do that makes them so expensive
steep gust
Branding
X570 as a whole cost more than it should
And plenty of older hardware can randomly just die
You can expect the same of cheap Pascal GPUs without VRM heatsinks in the coming decade
earnest marten
Anyone has a GTX 1070Ti ? Because I do and I'm only getting an average of 70fps with everything on low, I feel like it's not normal
latent light
what CPU do you have
earnest marten
Intel i5 6500
latent light
there's the problem
you need more than 4 cores for higher fps in BFV
that CPU is a bottleneck
jade tangle
haha
latent light
also, putting graphic settings on low just puts more load onto your CPU
earnest marten
Really ?
latent light
yep, low settings will cause more stutter on that CPU
although your i5-6500 is limiting your 1070Ti to begin with
earnest marten
Do you know the reason why low graphics would produce more load ?
latent light
need at least a i5-8400/Ryzen 5 2600 or better to get 100+ fps
earnest marten
That doesn't really make sense to me
latent light
low settings takes the work off the GPU and puts it on the CPU
and your CPU is already a bottleneck to begin with, no matter what settings you play with lol
earnest marten
I know what i need to buy next then
earnest marten
I was saving money for it anyway
jade tangle
i want threadripper
latent light
also, what ram do you have and is it single or dual channel
earnest marten
I had originally 2x4, but last year I bought 2 more so I have 16GB in total
latent light
4x4 has higher average but worse 0.1% lows
which indicates more frametime spikes
also known as stutter
but that could be margin of error
latent light
jade tangle
hope i have enough saved up for that 3900x and a decent mainboard
latent light
you don't really need the 3900X, 3700X is perfectly enough
jade tangle
i dont know i want to go full amd. but i dont think the navi 7 is worth the money
latent light
AMD GPUs do beat Nvidia equivalent in BFV
Vega 56 beats GTX 1080
RX 580 beats GTX 1660
earnest marten
I didn't know about BFV
latent light
Frostbite loves AMD GPUs
earnest marten
That's cool
latent light
I get 80 fps average on ultra settings with my RX 580
latent light
I get close to 130 fps on low
I got my RX 580 for like $180 and 2 games came with it
latent light
1070Ti gets around 90-95 fps average on ultra settings
when paired with a good CPU and RAM
earnest marten
I doesn't bother me to play on low
jade tangle
yeah i play every game on low too
earnest marten
Yeah but I "only" have a 144Hz monitor
jade tangle
can you get 240 fps in bf5?
latent light
with 2080Ti overclocked maybe
earnest marten
Maybe if you play in 480p
jade tangle
that would be next level
earnest marten
Or with the RTX titan
jade tangle
4x 2080 ti and threadripper
latent light
tbh there isn't a big difference between 144 and 240, I think even 60 to 75 would be a more noticeable margin than 144 to 240
earnest marten
I'd love to test the difference, can someone by me a 240Hz monitor to see 
jade tangle
its an ips panel so i dont know how much latency that has
but also prolly has great colours
latent light
60hz is 16.7ms per frame
75hz is 13.3ms per frame
144hz is 6.9ms per frame
240hz is 4.2ms per frame
earnest marten
Yeah that's not much of a difference
latent light
going from 60 to 144 is bigger than going from 30 to 60
it takes 13ms for an image to reach the brain and takes roughly an additional 150-250ms for someone to take a physical action to interact with said image
reaction time varies
steep gust
@jade tangle monitor response time is a marketing term
Since it's never accurate to real world conditions
violet plank
i doubt you can even get a stable 144 fps with at 2080ti all the times in low settings?
i get 144 fps with at 1080ti when no much is going on,but when there is like a shitload of action happening at a very small spot it drops to 120 and sometimes even down to 90
curious how the new rx5700 will perform
too bad i got a gsync monitor :/
didn't knew frostbite favors amd cards,was that always that way ?
forgot to mention i always play in 1440p,guess in 1080p 144 should be easy
latent light
about to give my brother an old Power Mac G4 for a HP desktop with a i7-2600 in it and 8GB ram
short crypt
Just got the g pro wireless awesome mouse man
molten coral
@short crypt How big is it compared to the G502?
wind laurel
Not going to lie, I need a new mouse and I've been thinking of going wireless with that one.
steep gust
G502 lightspeed but its not $150 pls logitech
They could steal the honeycomb design to drop the weight like most mice do
wind laurel
Having a hard time justifying it's price. 😂
short crypt
@molten coral I never had the G502 but it’s abit smaller I think I love the size in comparison I have a glorious model o and rival 600 all good mouses but there’s something about the wireless !! 😃
latent light
@steep gust my Dad wants my old gtx 770
molten coral
latent light
nitrogen = dry ice 
short crypt
What mice/keyboards do you guys got ?
steep gust
uh you can do a 2080ti in a 7L case
I'm sure you can do a 770 in mATX if you don't have shit airflow
latent light
nah this case we're talking about is basically a dell optiplex and only has a 300W psu
steep gust
fun
wind laurel
@short crypt How is that rival 600?
steep gust
2600 and 8GB of ddr3 is like $20
short crypt
It’s okay it’s the one I been maining before I got the glorious model o and now the g pro
latent light
short crypt
But also depends on hand sizes etc
jade tangle
i have really big hands and im using the g403
as long as the sensor doesnt spin out i dont really care. i had a bad mouse before which just spun out everytime i flicked
short crypt
How can u post pictures here I can’t
molten coral
He has earned the trusted role, you can earn this by being friendly, active and helpful against other people on this discord server. @short crypt
short crypt
Ah fair enough 👍
vagrant quartz
opinions on model o and gmmk?
steep gust
@latent light bad ddr3 is worthless tho
jade tangle
no he is trying to extract gold out of it and get rich
supple bane
But like
jade tangle
get a fritzbox
supple bane
ok.
How would I go about setting up a modem
Ik what they do,
Just don’t know how you use them, like do you have to use that AND a router
steep gust
uh
supple bane
Don’t start arguing now haha
steep gust
You do know what you plug a router into?
supple bane
I still have more questions
..: I get that that router can do all special stuff like assign channels and shit, but what actually gives it the speed?
like, what hardware wise does that differ to my current router
And do I still just pay the company I pay for internet like usual even tho I eint using their router anymore
steep gust
You have firmware differences and then physical hardware differences
Firmware is the stuff like assigning channels
and speed is mostly dependent on what version of WiFi it supports and the hardware inside of it
supple bane
yup I get that
steep gust
If you are going to ask "how" i say black magic
supple bane
so is it the hardware inside that gives it the extra 900 megabit in my case?
steep gust
yes
but that is theoretical maxes
You will never see that unless you want to pay a fortune to your ISP
supple bane
well then, what will I see?
because that’s what I assumed
My internet can only be as fast as my line lets it be
So I would have to upgrade with the company I pay, not just as simple as buy a new router
steep gust
Buying a new router if your's is super dated has its own advantages
supple bane
well mine isn’t out dated and isn’t slow in anyway
steep gust
Security, better channel usage and other fancy networking shit
supple bane
So I would see a very small improvement from the better channel stuffs then?
I’m guessing maybe an extra 50 mega bits or something along those lines?
steep gust
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jade tangle
QoS stuff
prime jasper
being poor
latent light
if they don't have 500 series motherboards under $100, it will kill them
prime jasper
please god, no more a320 trash
steep gust
good luck making a good VRM under $100 for Zen 2
The current draw is probably going to be insane
latent light
What makes the current high
Most people who buy a ~$100 motherboard also buy a ~$200 CPU
steep gust
high core counts
and low operating voltage
If you draw 200-300w yet only have a core voltage of 1.1v
That means something like 200 amps
latent light
I'm gonna laugh at the people who buy the 3900X for their X370 and B450 motherboard
I'm going to get the 3600
Kinda subjective tbh, B450 could handle it stock
so what are the voltage limitations to 7nm
1.35v?
steep gust
We don't know until we have access to them or AMD says
long sphinx
so which x570 board did you guys find the best?
this one seems like the best bang for buck https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-rev-10#sp
steep gust
I'll just ping Buildzoid randomly in the server I'm in with him he loves that
long sphinx
i really want to know the msrp for this one thou https://www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10
hope it will be around 250
welp not happening i guess https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-aorus-x570-ryzen_3000-motherboards,39504.html
prime jasper
Crosshair 8 should be tasty
long sphinx
for the eNthUsIAstS
latent light
I'm predicting the 16-core CPU will be called Ryzen 9 3920X
and there will be a Threadripper 3950X
umbral vine
@jade tangle good luck with that LMAO
zinc cosmos
I recently switched to a AMD 2600x cpu and battlefield keeps crashing with no error,I have msi afterburner on and the cpu temps,gpu temps,usage is all fine,there is no reason for it to crash 
supple bane
do you have an overclock on your gpu ?
supple bane
try the other dx from the one you are already using
like if you are using 12 use 11 and vise verca
zinc cosmos
I tried DX12 but it just wouldn't get past the opening screen(kept crashing)
Had to go into the games documents and change the DX12 enabled from 1 to 0
steep gust
@latent light Its not the first monoblock motherboard and it won't be the last
silver ravine
guys do you think e3 1230 v5 cpu can still handle bfv or not? since this cpu with a 2070 cant make the frames higher than 50 in 2k. Is it about time to upgrade my cpu?
supple bane
its not worth it.
its way too expensive for gaming
a 2600x will out perform it in every situation, and it much cheaper
oh wait
do you already have the e3?
or do you want to upgrade to the e3?
silver ravine
@supple bane i already have it, i bought it in 2016, but i dont think it can make the frames higher than 60 now for bfv, do u think it's the limitation of e3 that make the frames so low?
supple bane
yes
no doubt about it
just wait until july 7th and get the ryzen 5 3600
well actually
what would you budget be for an upgrade ?
silver ravine
ummm，im not sure yet ,maybe $350-400 for the cpu?
silver ravine
yep, thats also what im concerning about lol
long sphinx
new psu
silver ravine
650w
silver ravine
16g 2133 i think
jade tangle
smol mainboards are cute
silver ravine
it's like buying a brand new pc lol
supple bane
well apart from the new case, ram, psu, gpu, drives, coolers, fans, cables... yes it is a new pc
silver ravine
cant imagine the lowest requirement for gaming in battlefield changes so fast
silver ravine
lol
silver ravine
that's neat, it's time to save money for a 3700x maybe
turbid verge
lofty light
Finally got my new case set up 😃
turbid verge
lofty light
Imagine seeing Intel 10nm before you die
grizzled apex
Is 70$ cheap for 16gb DDR4 ram from Corsair?
grizzled apex
Sweet. I’m planning on driving up to microcenter soon
Rysen 2600, asrock AB450 pro4 and that ram for under 300$
steep gust
There is a lot more than just wattage in terms of PSU
supple bane
well what other factors could mean that that psu wasnt suitable ?
steep gust
OCP, actually being able to supply rated wattage, OTP, OVP, and other protections
prime jasper
again .. isn't like 2 kw what a small motorbike puts out?
steep gust
well one hp is like 700w IIRC so
swift eagle
guys 350w psu will be good for 1660ti and ryzen 3600?
supple bane
ye sure if you have a fire extinguisher and dont live in a 10 mile radius of any other buildings that contain fuel or valuables.
in other words
no
supple bane
yes
swift eagle
btw its good idea to change ssd to m2?
i want evo 970 500GB
and now have only ssd 60GB
supple bane
if your motherboard supports it, then yes
swift eagle
im gonna get Tomahawk B450 or any msi
need to upgrade fast Xd
i got bf5 on christmas and still didnt played it bcs of pc
supple bane
just make sure that the motherboard you get has an m.2 slot
swift eagle
im gonna check
it even have 2 slots
and one more
there is 25$ discount if i buy the 2600 and this motherboard
and i will get 2 games for 50$ each
and i should wait for 3600 or buy this one
supple bane
wait for the 3600
swift eagle
ye there propably would be even better discount for 3600 at premier
latent light
@swift eagle you can get a 1TB SATA SSD for the same price as a 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD
so it's either more SSD storage or compact design
prime jasper
Guys is the RX 580 nitro plus any good
steep gust
@swift eagle 350w is more than enough
Its more of any 350w PSU isn't really going to be good
970 evo is not worth the cost when I can buy a similar performing drive with double the capacity for less
latent light
Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660Ti, I recommend a 450W PSU at minimum
steep gust
We have no numbers of power draw of a 3600
steep gust
TDP =/= power draw
latent light
although it doesn't make sense why it would have the same TDP rating as the 8-core 4.4 GHz 3700X
latent light
I thought it was base clock for Intel and AMD uses some math formula to get their TDP
steep gust
yeah I can buy a EX920 1TB for $130
Get similar performance to a $217 970 evo 1TB
Both Intel and AMD has worthless TDP ratings anyways
prime jasper
My question
supple bane
it doesnt consume that, it devourers it
steep gust
when your motherboard doesn't want to follow Intel spec
jade tangle
how much will x570 mobo cost?
steep gust
$250+
prime jasper
Well fuck me then
steep gust
but you don't need X570 for Zen 2
latent light
the X570 Aorus Elite is $199
steep gust
Most companies haven't released pricing much less anything related to cheaper X570 boards
jade tangle
i want the eAtx board
jade tangle
because i have a full tower
latent light
^
jade tangle
it doesnt have a windows. im trying to build a wolf in sheepmantle build or however its called
steep gust
so a sleeper build?
jade tangle
ye
supple bane
ye
jade tangle
well shit
latent light
aren't sleeper builds done in old cases
steep gust
Sleeper builds can be done in a lot of stuff
The yellow tint is because of the cheap plastic
supple bane
ik
steep gust
which makes mods hard
latent light
yeah it used to be brighter but it gets dirty overtime
you can clean it
AMD "accidentally" confirmed the 16-core
steep gust
We all know the 16 core exists
latent light
latent light
don't know
steep gust
probably 96mb
steep gust
It took longer for me to download and flash a windows iso
Then to install windows, and purge it of all the bullshit
remote basin
Hey is someone having low fps since Mercury lunch?
steep gust
normal
remote basin
I dont know what could be happening then, the game performance was greatly afected after launch
remote basin
I rly hope so, becouse its no fun to play like this
it takes ages to change from hip fire to scoped
mortal nacelle
Force updating windows is no fun
its hella slow
wtf
just found out my plex was running 1609 win 10
thats how much i login to it 😄
prime jasper
ouch, that shit was EOS ages ago
prime jasper
"Pre-X570 boards will not support PCIe Gen 4. There's no guarantee that older motherboards can reliably run the more stringent signaling requirements of Gen4, and we simply cannot have a mix of "yes, no, maybe" in the market for all the older motherboards. The potential for confusion is too high. When final BIOSes are released for 3rd Gen Ryzen (AGESA 1000+), Gen4 will not be an option anymore. We wish we could've enabled this backwards, but the risk is too great."
quaint topaz
If a good phone comes with that technology then I might consider buying it.
I dislike the motorized cameras
steep gust
Time for Xiaomi to get banned
slate rivet
prime jasper
Hi im curious as to how well my pc might handle bf1 as i have a gaming laptop so definitely not even close to the best in the world, but the pc is a dell inspirion 7577 with a nvidia geforce gtx 1060 max q and a intel quad core i5 that is 7th gen. The main problem im worried about is either not having enough fps or overheating, also i dont if this is the right place to put this.
it should be good for 1080p60, maybe not maxed out though
ok
thank you
molten bramble
!specs
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prime jasper
lol wrong game
molten bramble
Doesn't matter, if it can handle BFV, it can more than handle BF1.
Man, I come back from a trip and I've got nothing, but a host of driver updates to address. 😄
prime jasper
the ride never ends
storm osprey
im having audio cut out all of a sudden, i use a soundblaster z soundcard that i have had for probably 4 years now, i updated absolutely everything, took everything out and reseated it, cleaned out my system, ran troubleshooting, etc
still happens, ive read online that soundblaster soundcards can get hot and cause cut out, dont know a way of checking my soundcard thermals alone or what is even bad
(its not headphones i swapped out between 3 pairs)
prime jasper
drivers?
jade tangle
doesnt you mobo have audio ports?
supple bane
ye, check to make sure that it is the sound card causing the issue,
molten bramble
Did you disable the on-board audio?
storm osprey
on board audio disabled, might have to check that again if windows did an update
i updated all drivers
molten bramble
I have had devices re-enabled from a Windows update before, entirely plausible.
storm osprey
i know a windows updated turned on onboard before, but when it did that the soundblaster card just wasnt working at all until i disabled onboard and put soundblaster as default
prime jasper
hm only thing i lack is a good graphics card and ram according to this image i only have 8gb
jade tangle
storm osprey
yes mobo has audio ports, but i didnt try that since i dont use them
and they are supposed to be disabled
jade tangle
well are you sure the soundcard isnt broken?
storm osprey
well now i gotta see if onboard got turned on somehow, if thats not the problem im gonna guess the card itself is messing up
im not home so i wont be testing any of this any time soon
jade tangle
storm osprey
i thought i fixed it last night, but it started happening again, i just went to bed and remembered just now when i got to work
prime jasper
jade tangle
would really like to know if that works
jade tangle
if i understood correctly you need to give the person a new pc otherwise
verbal pelican
Hallo. Ich habe folgendes Problem: Häufiger habe ich einen kurzen freeze im Spiel und werde dann direkt auf den Desktop geschmissen....manchmal kann ich aber auch ohne Probleme stundenlang spielen....woran liegt das? Schon ziemlich nervig....Graka-Treiber ist aktuell, System stark genug....
storm osprey
!r1
junior ploverBOT
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storm osprey
english only @verbal pelican
supple bane
nur Englisch bitte @verbal pelican
that was google translate so i have no idea if its correct haha
verbal pelican
oh sorry 😃 i have a problem with running bfV
in game i have a "freeze" and then the game crash to desktop.....
supple bane
remove any overclocks
storm osprey
do you have an OC applied?
verbal pelican
no overclocks and all actual drivers
supple bane
the game is having lots of issues with stability
verbal pelican
i have try to change dx, but nothing happens....once a time i could play for hours
crazy
my system must be good enough
supple bane
it is most likely just bf being dumb
like i said
it is having issues lately
just a waiting game for them to fix it
verbal pelican
thats really bad...when you not have the chance to play a game (full price) with a recommend system
prime jasper
you can try updating to the latest windows 10 build
verbal pelican
sorry, but i have tried so much and i'am really tired to try more and more..... it must be able to play a game when every driver and system (win 10) is actually
prime jasper
what build of win 10 are you on?
verbal pelican
win 10 v.1809
prime jasper
1903 is the latest build, you can always try that and see if it helps
verbal pelican
good to hear that i'am not the only one
really crazy
okay.....but my update service said, that everything is okay
molten bramble
New Mac Pro is being shown, supposedly modular
Uses Intel Xeon w/ 28-cores
300w PSU
prime jasper
just enough to run chrome
steep gust
and the 3175X draws a lot more than 300w at stock
quaint topaz
Apple Cheese Grater
molten bramble
Radeon Pro Vega II
supple bane
new from apple for the small sum of 799 dollars!!!
steep gust
Because the supply for the 3175X is tiny and its a halo product
I know someone who had one and getting a replacement because his was doa was hard
supple bane
well i have no idea what that thing is, so im going with the theory that its a cheese grater
molten bramble
FPGA "afterburner" card
steep gust
The motherboard on the right is currently the one for the 3175X
So i want to see what custom garbage apple is using for that mac
molten bramble
Seems like the afterburner card is a stand-alone encoding/decoding card, freeing up the CPU/GPU.
molten bramble
latent light
I knew it
you can't make a motherboard support PCIe 4.0 with just a firmware update
prime jasper
boy I really need a desktop
i have an Alienware laptop
does your ping go high if your pc heats up
latent light
no
prime jasper
so
latent light
maybe if your WiFi adapter does
prime jasper
my internet sucks now
latent light
do you use WiFi or Ethernet?
prime jasper
WiFi
steep gust
@latent light yes you can
It was only going to be the top x16 slot that was directly linked to the CPU
prime jasper
shut up im talking to him
steep gust
The issue is that not every motherboard has the tolerances for PCIe 4.0
latent light
"signal integrity" and PCIe 4.0 is not just a firmware update, the traces on the board have to support a minimum amount of specs
steep gust
and some probably do
prime jasper
ok
latent light
PCIe 3.0 signals are not enough
prime jasper
aaaaa
steep gust
This isn't tech support fyi
latent light
^
prime jasper
guys what can I do to get my ping down
latent light
this is a tech discussion channel
prime jasper
shut
latent light
no u
prime jasper
no me
storm osprey
@prime jasper play wired
prime jasper
what’s wired
storm osprey
buy it
prime jasper
how much it cost
storm osprey
varies length, what cat type, and region
prime jasper
i am us region
storm osprey
prime jasper
ok thanku
storm osprey
idk if you need 100 feet, but thats what i got
latent light
@steep gust Funny thing If they did enable PCIe 4.0 on previous gen motherboards, and customers started experiencing random crashes and instability, they'd blame AMD and/or the board manufacturers for poor products. You can have PCIe 4.0 work on 3.0 supported boards but it will not have the prolonged integrity to handle it.
prime jasper
can someone send me a video on how to download bf1 on pc and a link to the best place to buy it ? im super paranoid ¯_(ツ)_/¯
origin
download it
its free
supple bane
origin...
supple bane
its a launcher
prime jasper
yeah
supple bane
its owned by ea
prime jasper
ive never downloaded a game that wasnt free before
theres alot less games tho
ah
no battlefield isnt free the launcher is
ik
ive only had free games before
oof
ok
storm osprey
origin is official launcher for bf1
prime jasper
just search up origin download
storm osprey
its nothing shady
prime jasper
its the one with the orange sprial thing
ok so i have to download origin to
hmm
then folow all the instructions
and there ya go
so origin is like steam kinda ?
and thanks
yea
but alot less games
ok
and then buy it by going to games then battefield category then click the one you awnt
supple bane
yes
prime jasper
mk
supple bane
it says windows 7 OR LATER
supple bane
once you have downloaded it, go to a supermarket, and get an origin top up voucher, and then enter the code on that voucher and buy bf 1.
prime jasper
whats a top up voucher out of curiousity ?
supple bane
you buy those. and they have a code on the back, you enter that code into origin, and it gives you the amount of money that is on the front, so in that case you will have 25 pound in your wallet
prime jasper
allright
prime jasper
oh thx
does bf1 have tax
in terms of
would i be better buying a 50$ card or
is this the same thing
yes
ok thank you guys very much for your help
supple bane
just get it off origin
you can put paypal and stuff like that in if you want
that also works
credit cards work too
prime jasper
would i still get the whole crates and all the dlcs and premium etc
if bought off origin
supple bane
if you get the premium pass for bf 1 yes
there is base game, and for the dlc bf 1 has something called premium pass, you have to buy that
prime jasper
oh from that website u get all the dlcs premium etc for 40$
how much is it off oriign
supple bane
i cant check as i have already purchased bf 1
prime jasper
i need to quit asking questions or else im gonna be labeled as dumb
prime jasper
ok sweet
supple bane
but ye, download origin, and get bf1 from there
there is a search bar in the top right once you are on origin and search for bf1
supple bane
app
supple bane
once you have the app you shouldnt need to use the website again
prime jasper
ok
shut ocean
why do i get godlike fps in shooting range then i go into a game and it my pc turns into a nuclear reactor
prime jasper
hmmm
what about CA or war stories?
wait hold up for being battle field premium is that a 1time purchase or is it monthly
it looks like i can only buy battle field 1 for 20$ and thats basic
but then there is a premium thingy that says 14.99 a month
wind laurel
It's a one time purchase the premium pass.
You're looking at Origin Premier or whatever it's called however.
prime jasper
yeah
wind laurel
Ignore that thing.
supple bane
just a question before you buy bf 1
prime jasper
sure
supple bane
what are your specs ?
prime jasper
inspirion 7577 intel quad core i5 7th gen nvidia geforce gtx 1060 max q
and 8 gb of ram
latent light
what i5 is it
supple bane
go to task manager, and go to performance, cpu, then its in the top right
prime jasper
a quad core i5 7th gen is most likely a 7300hq
dual cores are the U series
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7300HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz
Base speed: 2.50 GHz
Sockets: 1
Cores: 4
Logical processors: 4
Virtualization: Enabled
L1 cache: 256 KB
L2 cache: 1.0 MB
L3 cache: 6.0 MB
Utilization 6%
Speed 3.32 GHz
Up time 0:00:42:31
Processes 193
Threads 2492
Handles 89938
alright that's not too bad
prime jasper
how bad is too bad
latent light
well that can achieve 60 fps pretty easily on BF1
prime jasper
main issue im worried about is getting to 60 fps and overheating
s
and thanks grim ace
ill just download origin and see where i go from there
thanks for the help guys
brisk plank
Can anyone help me plz
prime jasper
no, we can't help you distill your moonshine
storm osprey
in that case, bfv performance is shit and thats probably the problem
brisk plank
Well I can connect to ea just fun can go to the server browser and see all the servers most of them with good ping around 59 to 79 ping as soon as I click join on any of the servers it will kick me back to home screen but still connected to the ea server
I’ve even tried port forwarding
prime jasper
reboot your computer and router, try again
brisk plank
Done that as well only thing I haven’t done is delete the game and reinstall
wise glade
Did you try a repair?
brisk plank
How would I go about doing that
molten coral
How to repair your game via Origin
Go to your library> click on the game> settings> repair.
molten bramble
steep gust
molten bramble
^ That's helpful advice right there.
molten coral
I'll edit the message a bit.
molten bramble
K
molten coral
@brisk plank see the message above.
brisk plank
yes i did it still doesnt work
molten coral
That looks pretty good
lofty light
I'm quite happy with it
Only real thing that went wrong was the CPU cooler ended up dying when I cough tried to take an AIO apart, so I ended up having to go back to my old one
steep gust
AIOs are not meant to be taken apart
lofty light
But but I was moving it from a 120 rad to a 240 
lofty light
And overall it looked like the loop was going great BUT it seems something was blocked internally as there was no flow and the CPU went to 90C instantly
There was a strong smell of cooking thermal paste
latent light
is there any problems to putting a case fan on a rad
latent light
what do SoC VRMs do
lofty light
Socket on chip I think is what it stands for?
Normally that's a CPU that's soldered to the board permanently
Oh, could be soldered on chip
lilac grove
I get severe fps drops in the game, I fired up the game yesterday having last played it back in Dec. Is my computer not upto the task for 60fps BFV on low settings?
Core i5 4570
GTX 970
16GB RAM
prime jasper
@lilac grove other people reported similar issue's with quad cores aswell very recently. Your PC will run it alot better on bfv if you optimized your windows.
rigid knoll
Anyone up-to-date with the latest monitor news/rumors? Is PG279Q still viable purchase? It's about 3yrs old by now. But I guess still pretty solid at 2560x1440/144 (165)Hz IPS
prime jasper
this is half the price with similar specs https://www.amazon.com/Dell-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-S2719DGF/dp/B00N2L5CXO/ref=sr_1_4?qid=1559657007&refinements=p_89%3ADell&rw_html_to_wsrp=1&s=pc&sr=1-4
rigid knoll
Hm, tn panel. Pretty limited availability on Dell gaming monitors around here
prime jasper
I have no idea where you are then, I guess that will determine what you get then
rigid knoll
Yeah. Well partly why I asked about that Asus monitor
north crow
PG279Q is still very viable
though it probably has more competition now than a few years ago
blazing widget
does anyone else's sound feel a bit muffled after the patch
also end of round music playing the whole round
steep gust
@lofty light system on chip
Its everything that isn't the core, ie the IMC
@prime jasper Everyone has been having issues in BFV since mecury went live
I lost like 30fps (went from 140-150fps average on ultra to 120fps on low) from the update
prime jasper
I gained fps
But
I only gained from using 4 sticks
Not 2 sticks
Well actually
I gained little with 2 sticks
@steep gust also the people that reported to me were all 4 cores
Everyone else was fine
Ryzen 6 cores should also be effected aswell
steep gust
I'm on an 8600k
Let me apply my overclock again and see, zero overclock should not have dropped 30%
steep gust
ye I was cus fresh windows install that has been stripped now
prime jasper
That's why
Try to pull out of 4.8ghz and try again. Bet you 20$ PayPal it will be near fixed
prime jasper
It's also reported bfv use's more cores
If so that should be total 14 cores bfv can use now effectively
If you have the right GPU
This poor 9600k is 100%
The 3900x in bfv is going to be brutal. Just that dual channel sucks
marble pumice
steep gust
You need a lot more pins to do quad channel
marble pumice
getting really bad fps in games recently only occured about a few weeks ago
anyone got ideas
steep gust
Replace the thermal paste
prime jasper
@marble pumice what CPU and what clocks
marble pumice
look at imgur
steep gust
3770 3.7ghz
The 750ti is hitting 95C
which if its using stock thermal paste, means it needs replaced
marble pumice
any ops on thermal paste brand?
steep gust
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I use Kryonaut which is some of the best but it cost way too much to use on a 750ti
marble pumice
k ty
other people have been saying about redoing the paste
so maybe it can last another year atleast
steep gust
My strix 1080 had pretty medicore paste on it 😩
steep gust
marble pumice
if i was to buy new it would have to be new everything
marble pumice
if you have pc build for about £500 that is better than my current then yea