technology

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9t7u5pM1cE

9700K, and i5 owners rejoice

Intel: i7 is better because HT
also Intel: losing HT is no big deal

Zombieload is a new vulnerability that seems to be more malicious than all previous ones and it's known to only affect Intel CPUs as of now

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mds-vulnerability-immune-intel,39367.html

[supple bane]

intel is falling down the shitter

seems amd have made a comeback

[violet plank]

ugly?black and white,i'm sold!

full white would be my dream board

shouldn't on the right bottom corner be the active cooler ?

if this is indeed a 570 board

[latent light]

I want a solid white Ryzen motherboard

well there was the MSI B350 tomahawk arctic

but it was only B350

[violet plank]

yeah,i want the the full chipset,not so cutback

[violet plank]

some

this with a white liquid custom loop 😍

[latent light]

MSI B360 gaming arctic

would be good with a i5

[violet plank]

what a beauty,but wrong chipset

maybe the zen 2 B boards will have more sata ports this time?but i doubt it

iirc they had only 4 ?

i need at least 6 sata ports :/

full bandwith

and ofc m.2 same

[latent light]

my B350 has 6

[violet plank]

but aren't you missing lanes for the m.2 then ?

or was that intel only shit ?

z170/270/370

on some ports you can't use the full bandwidth cause of not enough lanes

if you wanna use them all

[latent light]

yeah I have a NVMe drive that disables 1 sata port

which leaves me with 5

The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated with a SATA M.2 drive, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.

[jade tangle]

guys how do i update my bios

BaseBoard Product B250M Pro4

AsRock

[latent light]

go to your motherboard manufacturer's website and go to support

[jade tangle]

it doesnt work

[latent light]

so ASRock's website

[jade tangle]

it says my mobo isnt supported

or like

"the bios file does not support this model"

[latent light]

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B250M Pro4/index.asp#BIOS

did you get it from specifically here?

[violet plank]

usually you can update the bios within the bios itself

[jade tangle]

ye

but i used windows

should i use instantflash?

[violet plank]

or most vendors provide a software tool

for windows

never had an asrock,dunno about them

normally i flash in the bios itself if it does provide a backup/fallback option,otherwise i use the software and/or do a manual update with an usb stick

dual bios that is

[steep gust]

You have to rename your BIOS file

[violet plank]

well if i read the page,can't get more detailed than that

https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS9

[jade tangle]

but can i not break a lot with that?

[violet plank]

no

just do as they say on that page

[jade tangle]

why are there like deals for a bios update which cost like 40 dollars

[violet plank]

to scare you so you pay money ?

only thing that usually happens when you flash the bios is that it resets to it's default settings

like overclocked stuff goes back to normal

[jade tangle]

ok lol i did it

what do bios updates do

[steep gust]

update your bios

[violet plank]

security update for a few of those 10000 intel leaks

rest is done trough windows which cost you 10+ % performance

[steep gust]

uh

you do realize that AMD doesn't have a bounty program

so finding exploits for AMD is a waste of time

when you can find them for Intel and make up to 100k or more

[violet plank]

it's not worth it yet

and all,or almost all of them don't affect amd anyways

intel x86 architecture is so ancient,they really need a full redesing

and usually those security flaws only get public if the bounty program is not willing to pay you

everyone does that vs everyone

[steep gust]

uh

You do realize Intel owns x86?

and that AMD uses the exact same x86 as Intel?

and if there is speculative execution (literally any modern CPU)

you have a massive security flaw

[prime jasper]

so, why dont those flaws also affect AMD cpus?

[steep gust]

because AMD isn't paying people to find flaws

and some of them do

Some haven't been confirmed nor denied on AMD

but AMD will have its own share of exploits

[latent light]

Ryzen is immune to MDS

Fx isn't

Ryzen is also immune to RIDL and Fallout

I do think people are overreacting to the vulnerabilities though

[prime jasper]

its the fact 99% of businesses use servers with xeons thats the problem

if that data is exploited then holy hell it could get bad

[latent light]

AMD's market share in China is going to skyrocket in the next few months because of the partnership with Hygon, which is who AMD are licensing Epyc processors to

Last year, AMD’s revenue from China rose by 58% and it now accounts for over 30% of the total revenue base.

[steep gust]

until AMD gets banned from china

[violet plank]

all that ban shit will just backfire,in any war there are just losers on both sides

except the rich ofc

[steep gust]

everyone loses in a trade war

[coarse nimbus]

amd tech will just get stolen and rebranded anyways

[prime jasper]

AMD = 💩

[lofty light]

Ryzen=pree good

[prime jasper]

[latent light]

Ryzen 3rd gen and Navi announcement in 23 hours

[forest token]

switch to ryzen this year or next year when they upgrade the zen 2 processors coming out 🤔

or see what intel releases

[latent light]

7nm+ EUV started mass production on friday

which is going to be on Ryzen 4th gen that comes out next year

well, Apple is going to get those chips first

[forest token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ-kR12kr4

Dice have the technology for hair now

incoming performance drops

also those bangs are

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofTwl_km9DM

PCIe 5

Intel servers to have PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 memory in 2021

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-2-6-core-cpu-benchmark-leaked-faster-than-ryzen-7-2700x-in-geekbench-4/

Imagine releasing $100 6-core that beats your own $300 8-core

Even if that's true, that's not a good move by them

[lofty light]

Time to just wait for the official benchmarks

Been ignoring the leaks

[jade tangle]

i also had a leak this morning

[supple bane]

if those leaks are true, i think im going to be owning one of those

[forest token]

am excite

[loud apex]

waiting for navi

[prime jasper]

@latent light DDR5? Well shit...

[latent light]

Likely see DDR5 for regular consumers in 2022

Maybe the same with PCIe 5

[prime jasper]

:3

[lime pollen]

DDR5 soon

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-amd-navi-3080-4080-5080-trademarks,39435.html

hopefully this happens

I want to see Navi be the RX 600 series or maybe something entirely new

[jaunty sonnet]

What’s the I5-9400f like with the GTX 1660 TI

[latent light]

i5-9400F is about to get stumped by value from Ryzen 3rd gen

6 cores and 12 threads for only $100 and 15% increased IPC

I assume the R3 3300 will have at least 10% better single core speed than the i5-9400F

[steep gust]

uh

Ryzen is not going to beat coffeelake / coffeelake-r in single core

[latent light]

it already is

[steep gust]

source?

because its not

[latent light]

15% higher IPC from 2nd gen

[steep gust]

source?

AMD keynote is today

and IPC is entirely reliant on what workload

[latent light]

there's a Zen 2 6-core being benchmarked that beats the 2700X in every scenario

and it's only running at 4 GHz boost

[steep gust]

leaks

[steep gust]

=/=

source

[latent light]

it might as well be true at this point

9 hours until announcement

[steep gust]

Also beating the 2700x

=/= beating intel

[latent light]

it will at the same clock speeds

Zen 2 at 4 GHz will be faster than Intel at 4 GHz

[steep gust]

uh

Sure if you want to believe that

fanboys are going to be very disappointed

[latent light]

Zen+ single core performance is only like what, 7% behind coffee lake at the same clock speed?

[steep gust]

depends on the workload

anything memory sensitive and it loses hard

[supple bane]

soo, i was kinda put off from streaming as i was thinking that my pc wouldnt be able to handle it, turns out it can, but now after a few tests, i found that the audio on the steam was super delayed from the video, what am i doing wrong here ?

[steep gust]

What are you using to stream?

[supple bane]

obs

[steep gust]

Assuming you already went through the audio settings?

[supple bane]

no, i literally have just selected the window and started

other than the stream key, i havent touched any of the settings

[fair ember]

So i keep getting super small stutters in my mouse when playing bf1/bf5

idk what to do

[supple bane]

is it just poor fps ?

[fair ember]

no

i get like 60ish fps

but my mouse just slows down randomly

not by a large amount

but it doesnt happen in other games

only bf

[supple bane]

there is an option called mouse acceleration, make sure that is off

[fair ember]

im pretty sure its off

[supple bane]

is your mouse on a proper surface, like a mouse pad ?

[fair ember]

yea

wait i cant find mouse acceleration

Is it in advanced controls?

oh wait

Its raw mouse input

[prime jasper]

computex in 2.5 hours

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

god I wish I had that emote

[fading kelp]

hello.
i need help
i bought RTX 2060 and the seller said u will get Battle Filed / Anthem code
from nvidia and i dont know how to get it and its not in the product box

[vagrant quartz]

write the seller an email

ask them how it works

[fading kelp]

the seller said u wont get it from us

u will get it from the company (Nvidia)

[vagrant quartz]

yes, i understood that. ask them how it works

[coarse nimbus]

you should have a promo code

that you enter in at the nvidia site

[fading kelp]

i live in egypt(alexandria) and the seller in cairo
i wont go to cairo again to ask him

[coarse nimbus]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/redeem-instructions/

[fading kelp]

and where i can get the promo code?

[coarse nimbus]

on your proof of purchase? does it say something

[fading kelp]

do u mean the bill (i dont know what it exactly mean)?

[coarse nimbus]

your receipt?

i would imagine somewhere on there it would have a code

that you have to enter

[fading kelp]

ok i will go to check it

[fading kelp]

now i have to create an origin account right?

[prime jasper]

yes

[drifting helm]

Also congratulations on your new graphics card.

[cosmic warren]

is dx12 good on dis game

[prime jasper]

tends to work better with Ryzen

[cosmic warren]

you have amd gpu cpu

is it good

[steep gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/582376956390146048/unknown.png

[prime jasper]

yum

AMD GPUs = 🤢

[steep gust]

yep

unless you want a low-mid tier card

Then NVidia GPUs are literal shit

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0Q75xCwDU

[steep gust]

be prepared to be disappointed if you are a hardcore fanboy

Since the leaks are mostly bullshit

[latent light]

Navi won't be impressive

[steep gust]

no duh its mid range

[latent light]

so many asians

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-gif-4440581

[latent light]

[steep gust]

Asian country

Asian event

move on

English is a fucking hard language

[latent light]

Lisa sounds like my aunt

[steep gust]

She sounds like an Aunt

[prime jasper]

I wish she was my aunt

tfw no gold plated Ryzens

[latent light]

data center

I use data center to run BFV at 8K 240 fps

I can't even watch a stream in 360p

[prime jasper]

B R O T E I N
R
O
T
E
I
N

[steep gust]

That fucking comparison

256 threads (64c CPU * 2)

compared to two 28c

112 threads vs 256 muy fair

[latent light]

you compare by price

[steep gust]

no prices announced

[latent light]

RDNA

probably an alternative to GCN

[prime jasper]

the pcie 4 meme has arrived

[muted aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ2zSsgnCMo

[latent light]

RX 5000 series

so 10% more performance than RTX 2070

sounds like what was expected

no price shown though

[prime jasper]

better be cheaper

[quartz whale]

beating 10%
in strange brigade
i fucking sleep

[steep gust]

uh

Strange Brigade favors AMD

and zero actual info shown

[latent light]

X570 announcement

that Asus X570 Prime looked nice

Lisa said she wasn't satisfied with 2nd gen Ryzen

[prime jasper]

based Aunty Su

[latent light]

doubled the Cache size

[prime jasper]

15% ipc increase

big if true

[latent light]

2nd gen was only 3% increase over 1st gen

but that was just a refresh

[prime jasper]

36mb cache holy hell

[latent light]

36MB

[prime jasper]

65w tdp

8c/16t

[latent light]

3700X 15% faster single core over 2700X at same clock speed

[prime jasper]

here comes the cinebench

[latent light]

65 watts on a 8 core

Ryzen 7 3800X with 4.5 GHz

dude said pubg is best game in town

[prime jasper]

lmao

that was a strange benchmark

[steep gust]

Alright

TDP

is for BASE clocks

so its useless

zero 12 core or 16 core announced

[latent light]

Computex lasts 5 days

[prime jasper]

one more thing?!

[latent light]

beyond 8 cores

[prime jasper]

RYZEN 9

[latent light]

Ryzen 9

[prime jasper]

three chiplets

oof Im getting sweaty

[latent light]

omfg

all those chiplets

dual chiplets

[prime jasper]

12c/24t 4.6ghz boost

[latent light]

4.8 GHz

[steep gust]

12 core

[prime jasper]

70 megs of cache wow

[steep gust]

and 3.8ghz base

You had the numbers flipped

[latent light]

oh she was standing in front of the numbers

no prices

[prime jasper]

yet. let it marinate

105w tdp on a 12 core

wew laddy

[latent light]

for base clock

[prime jasper]

still impressive

[latent light]

3700X $329

3800X $399

[steep gust]

3900x or whatever the 12 core for $499

[latent light]

impressive

[prime jasper]

really going for the throat with that one

HEDT is just about dead if they dont shape up

July 7th, woo

[latent light]

where muh Ryzen 5

[prime jasper]

that will trickle down eventually

or just not get any fanfare

[steep gust]

uh

HEDT isn't dead

[latent light]

is that dude really carrying around a powered on PC

[steep gust]

and AMD / Intel always do med / low tier later

[latent light]

Gamers Nexus already revealed the launch date hours before the keynote

now I want to hear all Youtuber's opinion on it

[prime jasper]

you wont have to wait long...

[steep gust]

https://i.redd.it/ahllaovudo031.png

Supposedly from AMD's site

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/582415268618174466/17GBzVr.png

Remember to ignore leaks

https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/1132853418987536384?s=19

AMD Ryzen (@AMDRyzen)

Push the high-performance envelope with the world’s most advanced desktop processor: 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen desktop processor. Available in 6, 8, and 12 core models July 7. https://t.co/OgLHoqWv9T

Likes

175

Twitter

Available in 6, 8, and 12 core models July 7

[latent light]

they wouldn't be able to get rid of 1st gen and 2nd gen stock if the leaks were true about the core counts

I really wanted to hear the memory support

[steep gust]

leaks about core counts?

we got core counts

[latent light]

that sentence says "if"

35MB cache on a 6 core

what's that going to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkSTp_tJI2o

already

BIG VRM. BIG OVERCLOCK.

[lofty light]

You guys all gonna buy the 9900KS?

[prime jasper]

lmao no

[steep gust]

A lot

Cache is good

[latent light]

my 1600 has 16MB

[lofty light]

I reckon I'll buy a 9900KS and cool it with my stock Intel cooler

[latent light]

I hope AMD puts SMT on the Ryzen 3 line

4 cores and 8 threads

would be nice

[forest token]

They showed off a single chiplet 8 core cpu and there was room for a second chiplet so people assued 16 cores 32 threads would be possible, and Lisa Su confirmed that a second chiplet was possible here

https://youtu.be/jy0Q75xCwDU?t=6479

[latent light]

nah, get the 9900KT, 35W TDP

[lofty light]

Later release maybe

Lol, the T series cores.....

I've got a steam machine that has the 6400T

One of the weakest CPUs I've ever had the displeasure of using

[latent light]

yeah, single core is like Fx level on T series

[steep gust]

T exists for a reason

Low power is important

[lofty light]

It is, but it also sucks

[steep gust]

Yeah well Intel is great

[latent light]

it's for people who want something simple and doesn't make noise and doesn't get warm

[lofty light]

How about S CPUs

[latent light]

iirc, S is slight lower power consumption than regular ones

[lofty light]

T's seem to mostly be in those tiny PC's that connect to the back of a monitor

[prime jasper]

correct, T is for micro machines and integrated computers

[latent light]

why does intel sell the F CPUs at the same price

integrated graphics is important to a lot of people

[steep gust]

Because they can

[latent light]

couldn't even lower the price by $10-20

[steep gust]

Don't ask why

9900k is generally $20-40 cheaper

Due to more stock

9900KFs dont clock any different

That is an R0 vs P0 issue not the iGPU

[lofty light]

Fs might be cooler?

[steep gust]

Nope

Same amount of silicon

iGPUs get disabled with a dGPU

[lofty light]

I guess it may just be a cheaper price for manufacturers then or something

[steep gust]

Unless you enable them and it's still very little

It's the reject CPUs

[latent light]

MSI X570 motherboards have 11 watts on chipset, also there's options to enable/disable the chipset fan and change the RPM

[steep gust]

9900KFs have a bad iGPU that doesn't pass the cut

That use to mean getting scrapped

[latent light]

that means they can supply more 9900Ks then

[lofty light]

Good for them as supply is crap anyway

[latent light]

I could imagine the issues AMD would have if they tried to put Vega iGPU on all their CPUs

[lofty light]

Honestly it isn't a bad thing they didn't, although it caught me by surprise as I wasn't thinking about it

Luckily I have a box of GT710s from old servers I've cannibalized

[steep gust]

Well vega IGPUs

And Intel iGPUs are different

[latent light]

sucks that Ryzen APUs are always a gen behind

3200G and 3400G aren't going to sell nearly as much as the 2200G and 2400G did

due to the small increase

[steep gust]

Depends on power draw

3400g could be great for a budget small system

[latent light]

3400G is 4.2 GHz iirc, 2400G can do 3.9 at best

but the iGPU isn't different

might be slightly higher clocked idk

[steep gust]

3400g wasn't announced

Zero info on any APUs

[latent light]

3200G 4 cores and 4 threads

3400G 4 cores and 8 threads

I seriously hope to see 3rd gen Ryzen 3 with 4 cores and 8 threads, considering quad cores without multithreading are becoming the new dual core

[supple bane]

do you think the the 3300 will sell ?

i think that it is going to one of if not THE best budget gaming chip

faster than the 2700x for 99 bucks

[cosmic warren]

anyone have Ryzen 5 1400 and RX 580 and plays this game?

BFV

i wish they would just do away with Quadcores and just make it 4 cores 8 threads the whole time.

[turbid verge]

Ryzen actually better then intel

[jade tangle]

ooff

guys

new ryzen is lit

but no 16 core

[supple bane]

there is rumours about a 16 core

it will be ryzen 9 i think

[cosmic warren]

@prime jasper Got eeem

[prime jasper]

yes I hope he is properly deterred from a life of crime

[cosmic warren]

no entiende

[iron canyon]

I'll wait until we see 3rd pay benchmarks before I say who's better than who (although that price difference...)

[violet plank]

i7700k vs i9900k @4.8 Ghz all core with at 1080ti at 2100Mhz/16GB DC RAM i see ZERO difference on framerates in bfv @ 1440p (or other games i own/play),why does everybody want that many cores for gaming only?

cinebench is hole other story,i do encode/recode a few movies a week,but is that worth it an upgrade?

reason for me wanting a ryzen 2,TDP!

[jade tangle]

can someone buy me the new am4 motherboard with the 12 core ryzen?

[latent light]

so MSI A320, B350 and X370 motherboards won't work with 3rd gen Ryzen, MSI cheated its users

[violet plank]

is it only MSI ?

[supple bane]

they basically said... ye everyone, you can use your am4 mobos to house our new chip, HAha gotcha, your pc is now a flame thrower

[latent light]

I mean, if the chipset power is the reason for forcing users to upgrade to a new motherboard, why not just sell adequate chipset coolers for like $20

[supple bane]

im pretty sure that its just the whole motherboard cant handle the power draw of zen 2

[latent light]

any 1st gen motherboard could handle the 3800X

I mean, the R7 1800X is still the highest power consumption AM4 CPU if you don't look at the 12 core R9 3900X

and there's videos of people putting the 1800X on a A320 motherboard and it hits boost just fine

[supple bane]

hmm

linus has been telling fibs then

maybe over clocking ?

[steep gust]

A320 wont support it, move on

Dont put a $500 CPU in a $40 board

[violet plank]

omg those VRM

https://videocardz.com/press-release/gigabyte-announces-x570-aorus-xtreme-motherboard-with-16-phase-vrm

[latent light]

hopefully people aren't buying Ryzen 7 with a motherboard like that

looks overkill even for a 16 core

@steep gust lmao the Ryzen 9 3900X is two 6 core chiplets, would of been better if it was a 8 core and a 4 core chiplet

I guess they are trying to save as many of the 8-core chiplets as possible for Epyc

[steep gust]

uh

you want the same size chiplet

different size means a whole lot of issues with multi threaded workloads

[latent light]

what if a game or app needs more than 6 cores and has to jump the bridge to other chiplet which will have latency issues

[steep gust]

latency won't be much of an issue

just like on the current threadripper

[latent light]

so not even MSI X370 boards will support 3rd gen Ryzen

waiting to hear from other vendors on the topic

[swift eagle]

Guys I have question

i have gtx 1050 and I5 3570 and mine fps in bf5 are so low

and what i should upgrade gpu or cpu

[covert patrol]

hey folks, since the last update bfv has been unplayable. I have tons of rubber banding and then the game disconnects. This happens in conquest and firestorm's lobby (even with very few players in the hanger) although I was able to fly a plane on fjell once. I don't experience any problems with Overwatch.
I've tried repairing the game and resetting my router but have had no luck. I'm reinstalling right now. Any other advice?

[latent light]

I think a recent patch broke the game for many

[steep gust]

@swift eagle both

[swift eagle]

and what would be best for 1080p and 60fps on high/ultra?

[latent light]

RX 580 + Ryzen 5 2600 (or wait for the 3600)

my RX 580 gets 80 fps on ultra

[supple bane]

im really excited to see the r3 3300

[latent light]

I hope to see R3 with SMT enabled

[supple bane]

that looks like its going to be one of the best budget chips

[mortal nacelle]

Maybe better then Intels lineup

Untill 2021

[latent light]

Ryzen 3 with 4 cores and 8 threads would be awesome budget

TSMC will have 5nm EUV by 2021

[mortal nacelle]

1nm by 2030

[safe meteor]

Gonna go all in on that cpu

[latent light]

eh, idk if under 3nm is going to be possible

will have to see

[safe meteor]

12cores 😩

[mortal nacelle]

120cores 1nm ny 2030

[safe meteor]

Lol

[mortal nacelle]

By

[safe meteor]

Let's see if we need quantum computing by the time we reach 1nm

[mortal nacelle]

10Ghz Per core

[steep gust]

not sure how many times I have to explain this

[mortal nacelle]

Power 2kilowatt

[steep gust]

but "xnm" has nothing to do with transistor size

[latent light]

it has to do with performance and effeciency gains though

[mortal nacelle]

Ruben i Might check in 2021 to see if 9700k need upgrading

[latent light]

hence why 14nm to 7nm sees a big jump

[steep gust]

14nm TSMC and 14nm intel are entirely different

Intel isn't know for its efficiency

[latent light]

this will probably be the best X570 motherboard

no place for a video output, so I guess iGPUs aren't an option

[mortal nacelle]

10gbit

❤

[steep gust]

yeah buts its a $500 board

and eatx

[latent light]

https://imgur.com/I3THPhW

X570 ITX

[steep gust]

ugly board

[latent light]

that fan is so small

will the chipset run a 11 watts at all times or only when you are utilizing PCIe 4 bandwidth

because Gigabyte, Asus, MSI BIOS have options to turn off the fan

which could only be for people who want to put a waterblock on the chipset

[steep gust]

11w is weak

X58 was what 25w?

[latent light]

25w chipset

Steve said the X570 chipset fans may not be necessary for many users

[steep gust]

it won't be

[latent light]

11W is small

have you seen the passive heatsinks for 35W CPUs? small af

[steep gust]

25w also only managed under max load across the entire chipset

So unless you are saturating the lanes, USB, etc it won't hit 25w

[latent light]

so let's say if you have a X570 and only have an 8 core 3700X, any GPU really, SATA SSD and HDD, USB being populated by mouse/keyboard/headphones, you probably won't need chipset fan

[jade tangle]

is that a watercooled soutbridge?

[latent light]

yes

[jade tangle]

is that a thing?

[latent light]

rare these days

no reason for it

[steep gust]

Southbridge doesnt exist nowadays

[latent light]

^

what replaced it

[steep gust]

it got integrated into the CPU

[latent light]

lmao damn

there's some dude saying to go ahead and get the 2700 because it's more futureproof than the upcoming 3600

[jade tangle]

1400 is more futureproof

[pine linden]

If anyone can help me with my Issue, I would be more than grateful. I stopped playing bf5 for a while to play bf1 instead and upon reinstalling bf5 for whatever reason I've been having massive problems with it as no matter what gamemode I played whether it be conquest, TDM or Firestorm the Low Fps symbol won't dissapear and my game constantly freezes for about 500-1000ms I've lowered my settings from Ultra to Low and it didn't help I was able to run BF5 on Ultra and have smooth frames with no issues no matter what the in-game situation was now I can't play the game at all.

[violet plank]

last patch messed up a lot of things for a lot of people

tons of ppl have huge framerate drops

dunno why or a solution

[pine linden]

It's horrible I can't play the game at all

[violet plank]

you can try a bugreport

[pine linden]

And my PC turns loud as hell too and it can't be my hardware failing or anything because I can play other games that have crazier cpu/gpu usage without an issue

[violet plank]

yeah,i know,it's only bf

my fans keep spinning up to 100% sometimes for no reasons,they never done that before

[mortal nacelle]

wireless LED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsUsByrOveE

.O

[pine linden]

I just want to get myself the Anti-Material Rifle

[jade tangle]

did you repair bf5 already? do you have origin in game disabled? cloud storage off?

[violet plank]

all you can try is a bugreport i guess

[mortal nacelle]

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!support

[junior plover]

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If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
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[mortal nacelle]

is the place to report

[wispy pecan]

yeah

[latent light]

imo, this is the most competitive AMD and Intel has been ever

AMD did have a lead in the early 2000s, then Intel took the slight advantage in 2004 and then by 2007, they took a big lead and kept it until now

Even when AMD was in the lead, people still bought Intel because Intel paid retailers to only sell their CPUs

which is why Intel got fined $1.45 billion by the EU in 2009

also in 2009, Intel had to pay AMD $1.25 billion for antitrust settlement

[swift eagle]

btw what would be better in bf5 ryzen 7 1700 or 5 2600

bcs they are in almost same price

[latent light]

almost equal

2600 will have like 10% faster single core though

[swift eagle]

but for the long time use a 2 years or more

go for 2600 or 1700

[latent light]

what refresh rate

[swift eagle]

60

[latent light]

doesn't really matter then

[swift eagle]

bcs for me 1700 seems better

[latent light]

2600 will run cooler

[swift eagle]

but dont know how it work in game

[latent light]

2600 can maintain 120 fps in most AAA games

[swift eagle]

i dont worry about temperatures mine I5 go for 90 deegres sometimes now

[latent light]

2600 has higher boost clock and lower power consumption, 1700 has more cores/threads

[swift eagle]

and thats why i dont know what to choose

idk battlefield will use all 8 cores

[latent light]

6 cores is enough for BFV

6 core/6 thread i5-9400F does good in BFV, I'm sure the 6 core/12 thread R5 2600 will do good as well

[swift eagle]

so i should aim for 2600 or 1700

only those two

and look which one is cheaper just

[latent light]

do you plan on streaming?

[swift eagle]

nah

[latent light]

2600 then

do you have a specific motherboard

[swift eagle]

nah

[latent light]

a B450 motherboard will do fine

[swift eagle]

i think i will go for one cheaper motherboard bcs i dont want to oc it or something

maybe very little but much can do it

[latent light]

also, get either 3000-3200 MHz ram

[swift eagle]

ye i have 1600mhz only now

but i will get it later 12GB is not that bad

firstly cpu and gpu

[latent light]

you could just wait for the 3600

[swift eagle]

when it will come out?

[latent light]

July 7th

[swift eagle]

that would be good deal

[steep gust]

I would just wait

Launch date has not been announced

it was just july

[latent light]

they Said July 7th for Ryzen

but only said July for Navi

[swift eagle]

btw 1660ti would handle it at high?

btw 1660ti would handle it at high?

[latent light]

BFV? easily

BFV? easily

my RX 580 does 80 fps on ultra

[supple bane]

ultra even

[swift eagle]

so there is no reason to pay more for 2060?

[supple bane]

No

not at all

[swift eagle]

good to know

[supple bane]

the 2060 only has a very small performance gain over the 1660ti, and in some cases the 1660ti is better

[swift eagle]

and what PSU for 1660ti and new ryzen?

[supple bane]

550 watt should be fine

I wouldn’t say anything more is needed

[swift eagle]

i have 200w or 250w now so i need to change it most

[supple bane]

ye 100%

the gpu alone draws half of that

[swift eagle]

i think it cause lags a bit

[latent light]

what gpu you have now

[swift eagle]

gtx 1050

but low profile

[latent light]

oof

[supple bane]

F

[swift eagle]

no extra power needed

[latent light]

75W GPU on a 250W PSU is already testing its limits

[swift eagle]

i dont even know what psu i have

[latent light]

also considering a PSU like that is low quality

[swift eagle]

its builded in case

[supple bane]

ye, make sure you have a fire extinguisher on stand by

[swift eagle]

i already have

[supple bane]

heh

[swift eagle]

90 deegres on cpu

[supple bane]

Jesus

What cpu do you have?

[swift eagle]

I5 3570

on stock cooler

[supple bane]

ye, have you checked to see if that is clogged with dust or anything

[swift eagle]

nah just this cooler is too bad

i changed the cpu from I3 and dont changed the cooler

and i think i pushed my MOBO to its limits

it had GT 610 and I3 3240 at start

[supple bane]

I too use a stock intel cooler and yes it’s loud but it does an amazing job at cooling

I think there is something wrong with that cooler

Maybe the thermal paste was done bad or something

[swift eagle]

it was done good

[supple bane]

Hmm

[latent light]

77W CPU, 75W GPU, 30W motherboard, 5W ram, that 250W PSU is wanting to commit seppuku

[swift eagle]

i dont even want to repair the cooling

if i get new ryzen i will get better

[supple bane]

he ryzen stock cooler is very good, even small over clockw are possible on it

[steep gust]

what motherboard draws 30w

[supple bane]

his one I guess

[swift eagle]

why i thought that I5 will be good for bf5

[supple bane]

It is

[steep gust]

well my 8600k handles bf5 fine

use product names

[swift eagle]

i know the k version of mine can handle even 4k with good gpu

[steep gust]

no not really

[latent light]

he has i5-3570

[steep gust]

the 3750 even overclocked isn't very gret

[supple bane]

ye not today it isn’t

[latent light]

he has a locked one

[steep gust]

4c 4t is bad always

doesn't matter the freq

nowadays

[swift eagle]

heard it can be done to 4GHz but mine mobo propably cant

[supple bane]

And also, 4K gaming isn’t very cpu based, so on a game that isn’t cpu intensive it should be capable, but that is very rare

[swift eagle]

and can someone explain me that

i have almost same fps on lowest and high/ultra

[latent light]

BFV will use more than 4 cores even at 8K

[swift eagle]

but its just higher cpu gpu usage

on lowest it use 60% gpu and cpu with 40fps

and on high/ultra still 40fps but 100% usage of both

[supple bane]

Hmm that’s weird, I have 100% cpu usage from bfv constant

I thought that a cpu like that would have been even worse

[swift eagle]

when im driving a tank and every enemy plane on map bombard me

it drop to 15 fps no matter of settings

and i can only see how cpu go 100% whole time

[latent light]

1050 2GB probably wouldn't even maintain 60 fps on low settings

[mortal nacelle]

sems like you need a new pc

thats not in specs is it

[supple bane]

my 1060 3gb can’t hold 60 FPS on low m8

on squad conquest it can

But conquest or grand ops or something

Nah not happening

[mortal nacelle]

BATTLEFIELD V RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
OS: 64-bit Windows 10 or later
Processor (AMD): AMD Ryzen 3 1300X
Processor (Intel): Intel Core i7 4790 or equivalent
Memory: 12GB RAM
Graphics card (NVIDIA): NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 1060 6GB
Graphics card (AMD): AMD Radeon™ RX 580 8GB
DirectX: 11.1 Compatible video card or equivalent
Online Connection Requirements: 512 KBPS or faster Internet connection
Available Disk Space: 50GB

[latent light]

1300X recommended

[swift eagle]

worst thing is i cant even play this game normally

[latent light]

[swift eagle]

sometimes enemies dont even render XD

or render in that low quality i cant see them

[mortal nacelle]

well you computer dont meet the specs

[swift eagle]

i do 4 specs

[ocean gazelle]

you need all

[mortal nacelle]

you need it all

[ocean gazelle]

as a minimum

[swift eagle]

ram, disc specs, internet and direct x

[steep gust]

1050 supports dx12

[mortal nacelle]

well then cpu and gpu is the most importen ones

[supple bane]

the thing is, to upgrade you are going to need a new everything expect drives and fans

[steep gust]

most people's connection is fine

[mortal nacelle]

just face it pingoo it is time to upgrade cpu and gpu

for you to be able to play the game

[swift eagle]

mobo and psu

much things

most expensive ones

[supple bane]

and ram

[swift eagle]

ram is ook

[mortal nacelle]

yep but thats pretty much what you need

[supple bane]

Yes but different mother boards need different ram

judging from the rest of your pc

[mortal nacelle]

only if it changes from ddr3 to ddr4

[supple bane]

You ram is probs ddr3 so it more than likely won’t be supported

[steep gust]

You pretty much need a whole new system

[mortal nacelle]

just face it pingoo you need a new system

just buy a cheap amd

[supple bane]

except drives and fans, which is what I said

[mortal nacelle]

system

[supple bane]

ye, wait for the r3 3300 to come out

[mortal nacelle]

stuipid if he no money have

[supple bane]

the r3 3300 is 99 bucks

I love that from this sever I have almost learned how to convert pound to dollars

I can make a rough guess now

[mortal nacelle]

i'm still team blue

[swift eagle]

i just got it how my mobo is very bad

[supple bane]

really ?

[swift eagle]

i was doing gpu oc

[mortal nacelle]

not really

[supple bane]

have you seen what zen 2 can do?

[steep gust]

I would buy a SSD

[swift eagle]

i have SSD for system and hdd for games

[mortal nacelle]

yeah bfv need ssd

[ocean gazelle]

oof

[steep gust]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

BFV doesn't need an SSD

[swift eagle]

why

[mortal nacelle]

@swift eagle can you link all of you system specs here

[swift eagle]

i dont saw any issues with loadings

[steep gust]

BFV doesn't need an SSD

[swift eagle]

i can

[steep gust]

Honestly depending on how Navi goes

You can build a whole system for like $500

[mortal nacelle]

might just be worth for you to upgrade you gpu . ofc if you have a old old old old cpu

that will conflic

[supple bane]

wait, are allll 3rd gen ryzen needing 3 ghz + memory?

[steep gust]

no

[supple bane]

Oh ok

Goo

[steep gust]

do you know the difference between "supported" and "required"

It supports the 3200 JEDEC bins, which are 20-22-22 and 22-22-22

might be a third one I forgot about

[swift eagle]

I5 3570
GTX 1050 Zotac Low Profile OC
motherboard Asrock H61M-VG3
DDR3 8GB and 4GB 1600MHz
2TB HDD and 60GB SSD
@mortal nacelle

[mortal nacelle]

@latent light you are pretty good at chepa amd builds

[supple bane]

ye eint no motherboard supporting ram for that now

unless you don’t want to upgrade that is

[swift eagle]

btw mobo block GPU oc

[mortal nacelle]

wit @swift eagle are you running 1 8gb stick and 1 4gb stick ?

[swift eagle]

yes

i only have 2 slots for ram

[mortal nacelle]

well thats a problem

you are lossing out on dual channel

[steep gust]

not on Intel

[swift eagle]

wanted to go 2x for 4GB but recommended is 12GB

[steep gust]

4gb + 4gb is dual channel and the other 4GB is single channel

2x8 is cheap af for DDR3

hell I think I have three or four worthless 8GB sticks

That I pulled from old systems

[mortal nacelle]

you should go for 2x8gb @swift eagle

then you get dual channel

[swift eagle]

i dont even want to put more money in this pc

[supple bane]

I mean

[mortal nacelle]

maybe it is just better to build a total new system 😄

[swift eagle]

i think same

[steep gust]

Just build a new system

You will be replacing almost every part anyways

[supple bane]

just salvage things you can and the price will be brought down

[swift eagle]

• i dont have to buy discs

[steep gust]

and sell the old system on facebook

as a browser system for like $350-400

[supple bane]

Do people buy second Hand systems?

[mortal nacelle]

just keep case psu HDD and ssd @swift eagle

[swift eagle]

case is mini-atx

so dont

[supple bane]

no don’t keep case

[mortal nacelle]

yeah for media server and such @supple bane

[supple bane]

Psu I mean

He has a 200 w psu

that’s not a psu more like a bomb

[mortal nacelle]

where do it say he have 200w psu ?

[supple bane]

he said earlier on

[mortal nacelle]

ah that i didn't know

[swift eagle]

i need new case bcs the bigger card like 1660ti wouldn't even fit in it

[mortal nacelle]

yeah

you are right

then hide you ssd + hdd

[swift eagle]

wanted to go for cheaper used 1070 but for 25$ more i can have new 1660ti

[mortal nacelle]

and then everythink new

i not looked up the new 1660ti

are the anygood ?

[swift eagle]

same as 1070

sometimes better sometimes worse

and it have 6GB VRAM

[supple bane]

ye but they are like 250 pound

So like half the price of a 1070

[swift eagle]

new 1660ti is like used 1070

[mortal nacelle]

so 1660ti compare to what other gpu ?

1060 or 1070 ?

[swift eagle]

1070

[mortal nacelle]

ah

just hide away with his 2080ti

if you should get a ryzen now

wich one ?

[supple bane]

all of zen2 are good

[mortal nacelle]

wich one of them

if you are building cheap

[supple bane]

R3 3300

100 bucks

[mortal nacelle]

dude

NOW

not in like 2414014 days

[supple bane]

Oh now

ermm

2600

2400g

[mortal nacelle]

x versiion just meen you can overclock right

@swift eagle

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tyC7tg

i'm not good at building amd setups

[supple bane]

the 2600x is slightly better

but is also more expensive

[steep gust]

Just get rid of the entire system and build a new one

and wait for Zen 2 to come out

[mortal nacelle]

yeah @supple bane made him a setup

[steep gust]

Also that PSU is garbage

[mortal nacelle]

i'm just not a big amd builder

[steep gust]

$100 for something with less than proper protections

"x" is binned harder on AMD, and PBO / XFR2 to auto overclock itself once you enable it

alongside a better stock cooler (IIRC)

[mortal nacelle]

if you such a king of tech build one you self

[steep gust]

Wait a month or two

for Zen 2

[mortal nacelle]

other then just yell about Oh this is shit

this is bad

[steep gust]

It is

[mortal nacelle]

then build you self

[steep gust]

G2 / G3 are shit PSUs

period

[mortal nacelle]

or just shhhhhh

😄

[steep gust]

I know multiple people who had them fail

[mortal nacelle]

ok mr i know it all

but dont bring anythink to the table

[steep gust]

why price something out

when prices change every day

and you still have a nearly two months

[mortal nacelle]

why just sit here and shit talk people who ask for advice , and not just help them build a system wich can play games

[steep gust]

The advice is to wait for Zen 2

and Navi

[molten bramble]

I have the MSI 1660Ti. It’s solid.

[mortal nacelle]

nice hydra

[steep gust]

You want to waste your money with competition is right around the corner?

You do that

I will not recommend it

[molten bramble]

Expect your power draw to increase substantially.

[mortal nacelle]

luckly not my pc

but atlest i'm trying to help this dude

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-16-core-zen-2-cpu-leak-overclock-benchmarks/

16 core will come out Q4 I bet

[steep gust]

Can you not post sources that have been wrong for the past 6 months

wccftech is clickbait

[mortal nacelle]

its ok i trust @latent light 😄

[steep gust]

wccftech and adoredtv were wrong about every part of Zen 2

The naming, the clocks, core cores, and prices

[supple bane]

can you please stop shitting on everything people say in here

[steep gust]

Can you post actual sources?

[supple bane]

Ik you just helping but it comes across as kinda offensive

[steep gust]

Because wccftech is literally quoting someone else who is saying something

doesn't even have a image or video

[supple bane]

like he is just trying to start a convo and you take a massive shit on him

[steep gust]

I'm tired of the leaks

[mortal nacelle]

thats how he is pretty offensive

[steep gust]

How many leaks were right about Zen 2?

0

[mortal nacelle]

but yeah if enough people report him to admin team the might get rid of him

[supple bane]

I’m not saying they were right

[mortal nacelle]

but this a tech place so lets talk tech 😄

[steep gust]

tech not rumors

[mortal nacelle]

who cares if its rumors or not

its still a convo

[supple bane]

yes but it’s rumours about tech

[mortal nacelle]

about tech

^^

[steep gust]

which aren't right

[supple bane]

it doesn’t matter if it’s rumours or not, it’s just a fun thing to talk about, if you don’t like it don’t input, simple, instead of shutting people down

[mortal nacelle]

indeed if you cant join in with inputs or anythink not negativ you should really not talk

[steep gust]

There is a difference between discussing rumors with metric

and talking about clickbait from a source that is known for clickbait

Pretty sure wccftech said no Threadripper 2 when it was removed from the 2019 investors roadmap, but no one at AMD said that

[mortal nacelle]

v0v dude you do you we do us

pretty good leak rumor lets hope its true @latent light

[latent light]

Linus and Steven Burke said a 16 core is coming

[mortal nacelle]

yeah i sew the video

of him saying buy amd stocks 😄

[steep gust]

You can guess a 16 core is coming

When Intel responds

but nothing about specs

[latent light]

it could not happen if Intel doesn't respond to the 12 core tbh

[mortal nacelle]

lol 😄

[latent light]

then that would just mean more 8-core chiplets for Epyc lol

[mortal nacelle]

intel just gonna make new cpu wich is the same as 9900k just with minal changes

cooking on the same stuff again

[latent light]

all Intel can do now is make another refresh of Coffee Lake

[mortal nacelle]

^^

[steep gust]

or 10nm?

like they said are coming out this year

[latent light]

10nm laptops are already coming

[steep gust]

Everyone is all "they are saving the 8 core chiplets for EYPC" but in reality is literally just AMD waiting for competition

[mortal nacelle]

why laptops

[steep gust]

You don't play all your cards at once

Laptops are were the money is at

Laptops and servers

[mortal nacelle]

fuck laptops

buy a ipad pro

problem solve 😄

[tough egret]

But it is a better thing more ppl will hug high powered laptops because they are scared of a pc

Lol

[mortal nacelle]

its not the same

gaming on a laptop

[latent light]

doesn't the RTX 2080 for laptops match a desktop RTX 2070

nvm it only matches a desktop 2060

[mortal nacelle]

thats a place where i have never been

but i dont think so

A right

[latent light]

so, 3900X has 6MB L2 cache and 64MB L3

https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

[mortal nacelle]

😮

but base clock is still shit

[latent light]

stock coolers they come with

[steep gust]

base clock is fine

5.0ghz wasn't going to happen on Zen 2, anyone with reasonable dreams could have saw that one

[latent light]

yeah 4.6 looks like the limit

unless the 16 core will have 4.7 single core boost

[steep gust]

which is expected

200-400mhz gains per generation is normal

[latent light]

I'll probably upgrade to the 3600 from my 1600, should see 20% performance increase

[steep gust]

I'm going to Zen 2 if Intel can't do anything

[latent light]

Intel will launch 10nm by Q1 2020

possibly

tbh 6 month from now, Zen 3 leaks will be surfacing and stirring the waters

[steep gust]

adoredtv is already starting to plan out his zen 3 leaks

6ghz on air