technology

[molten bramble]

I prefer the aforementioned tools over Blender tbh, the UI is a mess.

[latent light]

[dusk trench]

is anyone german here?

[steep gust]

I learned CAD in Inventor

not fun

[odd goblet]

Tell me the ultimate build for being like... a streamer and editor

[steep gust]

ultimate build?

3175X

[odd goblet]

Holy fuck

[latent light]

on a budget? Ryzen 7 2700X, although waiting for 3rd gen will turn out to be a better option

[steep gust]

Zen 2 is announced at computex

[latent light]

inb4 $600 for a Ryzen 7 3700X

if 12 cores is true

[odd goblet]

I don't see myself getting a $3k processor

There's probably someone out there with a $12k build now that I think about it

[latent light]

I wouldn't if I could even afford it, it runs too damn hot, would need air conditioner running 24/7

3175X puts out as much heat as a Vega 64

[odd goblet]

My computer is just a particle accelerator at this point :v

[latent light]

what do you have now

old i7?

[odd goblet]

i9

[latent light]

i9-7900X?

[odd goblet]

Just kidding, I only have an i3.

[latent light]

oof

i3-7350K?

[odd goblet]

6100

[latent light]

damn

[odd goblet]

VR Ready

[latent light]

Ryzen 7 2700X, even a Ryzen 5 2600X would be a big upgrade

[odd goblet]

kek, couldn't be farther from the truth

That could be yeah

[prime jasper]

6 hours ago

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16910589

shitty 3800x

[latent light]

they are fucking around with those userbenchmark scores

I can set my 1600 to 2.0 GHz and run a benchmark

[prime jasper]

it's 1600x2

so 3200mhz

[latent light]

pretty obvious that they aren't going to set it at final clockspeed

[prime jasper]

Yee but we guessed it's turbo at 4.4ghz

Which makes sense

[latent light]

hell, it could be a underclocked 1920X renamed

[prime jasper]

The single core is to high

but this is my math done if it was at 4.4ghz maxxed out turbo

SC int: 140

SC float: 166

SC mix: 151

9900k: SC Int 151
SC Float 159
SC Mixed 153
While the 9900k is at 41ns
3800x is at 79.8ns

So it comes close

but in gaming

it's still pretty weak

due to the high latency

both on the same ram

supposdly people are saying this is on jedec

but it's the same performance as 3200 cl16

almost cl15

But now zen 2 has entered 7th gen

[latent light]

Zen+ was like 3rd or 4th gen IPC

btw, 10nm Intel won't even run at 4.8 GHz

maybe not even 4.5

which is why it maybe released only on laptops

[prime jasper]

I heard about that

10nm will clock like shit

[latent light]

may never see desktop 10nm

unless

they create low power desktop 10nm chips

Intel's node design progress was the best in business until they started working on 10nm

and they could be stuck at 14nm still while TSMC creates 5nm EUV for Apple and AMD

Apple is going to be the first to have access 5nm

[prime jasper]

eats popcorn while on OP xeon

[latent light]

there's more rumors about that 4-way SMT shit, they're saying a Epyc CPU will have 64 cores and 256 threads in 2020

[prime jasper]

Wouldn't be surprised

But that won't run in windows

so linux

it is

Like almost all benchmarks can't use that

[latent light]

even cinebench?

[prime jasper]

Could cinebench run that many cores and threads?

[latent light]

idk, never checked out 2990WX scores on cinebench

which is just 64 threads

[prime jasper]

It use's all of it's cores

[latent light]

even on windows?

[prime jasper]

no

on windows it has tons of issue's

[latent light]

NUMA

https://tenor.com/view/headphones-gif-4714741

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/975ahh/windows_is_rubbish_for_high_core_count_2990wx/

I doubt we will see a fix for this on windows soon

[prime jasper]

Wendall from youtube

manual fix these issue's

Which helps

but it's not global fix

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UrTzMg2RU

mid-range X570 tbh

nothing big

[forest token]

can game developers abandon windows now?

[prime jasper]

Lol honestly I wouldnt mind to move to linux

I'm sick of windows

[quaint topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgVtg3iVUAg

[storm osprey]

intel 660p 1tb for 93 bucks now

corsair vengeance 16g 3000 78 bucks

prices just keep on dropping

[safe meteor]

Wtf for 78 bucks

Might consider getting 32gb soon

[finite torrent]

Hey @storm osprey

[storm osprey]

yo boi

[finite torrent]

Cali and ayla got mod trainee.

[storm osprey]

i saw

and pow gone

[finite torrent]

Ya

[storm osprey]

crazy times in the BFD

[finite torrent]

Indeed

[quaint topaz]

OP7 Pro is fast as fuck

[steep gust]

@storm osprey 660p is QLC tho

[prime jasper]

for the typical consumer/gamer that presents no issues worth mentioning

[steep gust]

Its still important to mention

[storm osprey]

i feel the people that need to differentiate something like that already know that

[steep gust]

Most people don't know the difference

and just assume it will be like the TLC SSDs

[storm osprey]

for average consumer is TLC vs QLC a meaningful factor still?

[steep gust]

ye

about half the speed and worst sequentials / latencies

[prime jasper]

since were talking about NVME I dont think thats going to be noticeable to load up your ebin gaymes

[storm osprey]

i really doubt whatever the difference is is actually going to equate to a relative load difference

cant find anything supporting this

but is the TLC drive gonna load twice as fast as the QLC drive? doubt

[prime jasper]

maybe in a massive sustained load/transfer...aka what 99% of people dont do or require

[forest token]

Main thing I care about is endurance

[steep gust]

uh

Most drives have like 150-300TB

You need to be writing hundreds of gigabytes a day for a noticeable harm

and just look up a benchmark for the 660p

It loses to any TLC drive in every metric

[storm osprey]

well duh

whats the difference for loading a game?

[prime jasper]

might need to load 4k anime .6 seconds faster

[steep gust]

Not much difference considering SATA vs TLC NVMe is already not much

[storm osprey]

so again, for basically anyone not wanting to show off their benchmark peens it will be close

[latent light]

doesn't QLC have lower life span

[storm osprey]

yes

which is still a long ass life span for the average consumer

[steep gust]

So again

Its fucking IMPORTANT

To mention the DIFFERENCES

If you are buying a $100+ product without being informed on it, I got something to sell you

[prime jasper]

@latent light its rated to 200TBW and a 5 year warranty so you good

[storm osprey]

thats still ignoring that the people the difference matter to wouldnt already know that

[steep gust]

That is ignoring the fact that most people are fine with a SATA 2 drive

[storm osprey]

which "If you are buying a $100+ product without being informed on it, I got something to sell you" that backs up

[latent light]

QLC (Quad Level Cell) is cheaper to manufacture than TLC (Triple Level Cell), with SLC (Single Level Cell) being very expensive for consumer storage requirements. QLC is also much slower and less durable to constant writing than TLC (hence the difference in cost), but QLC NVMe SSDs like Intel's 660p has SLC cache on which is super fast. Combining the QLC and SLC can match or exceed the speed of TLC drives.

[steep gust]

I love marketing

Having a cache doesn't make a slower drive faster

TLC drives also have a DRAM cache, which happens to be a lot faster than any storage drive

DDR4 JEDEC is what 35000Mb/s read / writes?

[vagrant quartz]

do you guys think there will be a navi card competing with the 1660 ti in price and performance? i suppose and hope so, kinda hyped for the 27th

also ryzen 3000

[storm osprey]

yes

[vagrant quartz]

niiiiice

gonna build a new rig in the summer and i had the idea of a 1660 ti but ill probably just wait a little longer until the navis are released

[storm osprey]

thats what i would do

[vagrant quartz]

btw which ssd would you suggest over the intel 660p

[storm osprey]

if anything 1660ti would drop in price in fear of competition

[latent light]

Crucial MX500

maybe a WD Blue NVMe

[storm osprey]

^

crucial mx500 is my go to

[vagrant quartz]

pros cons?

[steep gust]

You don't need PCIe lanes

[storm osprey]

its basically what 97% of the population needs with a good warranty at a good price

[vagrant quartz]

and its tlc for the same price, i see

i had no idea about the tlc/qlc thing, TIL

thank you very much

[storm osprey]

660p is 93 bucks atm

im seeing the mx500 for 120

[steep gust]

I would go for a SATA 3 drive for most people

Easier to not deal with M.2 slots if you plan to upgrade

[storm osprey]

is that worth the near 30 dollar price difference though?

[latent light]

yeah M.2 disables other SATA ports

[steep gust]

Depends on the board

Also depends on the user

I wouldn't buy a 660p, since my board has one NVMe slot and I want a nice 970 evo or something

[vagrant quartz]

it doesnt disable all sata ports though, i bet, right?

ok so apparently only 1 or 2 sata ports will be disabled on most boards

[latent light]

Gigabyte lacks quality control

they have the worst reviews on Newegg and amazon

[prime jasper]

feeling comfy over here in EVGA land

[steep gust]

uh

reviews are worthless

Also EVGA had the cards that exploded

Ignore the fact it wasn't their fault, but they exploded

[latent light]

Gigabyte has the most negative feedback on both websites though

[grizzled apex]

Everyone can agree gigabyte in general sucks

Some of their products are ok. Most everything else is terrible

[steep gust]

Gigglebyte has perfectly fine products

The bandwagoning that goes on with products is why Asus can charge more for less

[grizzled apex]

Eh, even Asus products are pretty bad

My power supply from them blew up after literally only using it for a few months

[prime jasper]

didnt even know they made psu's. now they have AIO's with OLEDs on the water block, seems kinda cool

[latent light]

Nvidia is going to launch cards with 16 Gbps memory soon

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/turing-gpu-16gbps-gddr6

[delicate igloo]

Rip ppl who bought 2080s

[prime jasper]

rip anyone who buys anything in this world, everything gets dated at some point but at least 8GB VRAM is quite enough for now

[storm osprey]

"reviews are worthless"

because professional reviewers are buying hundreds of cards to test them for QC for us

[slate rivet]

is there a javascript that could run one code but if it fails show something else? I can only think of Python...

[jade tangle]

I want to purchase a laptop but I dont know what to take around 700 Euros. With good colour accuracy

[prime jasper]

that would really depend what you plan to use it for

[jade tangle]

mosty for game dev in unity and later for sys admin stuff

[prime jasper]

well a desktop would certainly be better for game dev lol

[jade tangle]

only low demanding 2d stuff

[storm osprey]

unless you NEED portable get a desktop

if you need portable but can split it

[jade tangle]

I have a desktop I just want something portable. Ill still mainly do that on my desktop

At work we use lenovo but mostly they have shit displays

[storm osprey]

idk anything about laptops, dont think many here do

[latent light]

laptops have pretty shit displays

[prime jasper]

well yeah idk about prices in Europe either so cant help there lol

[jade tangle]

🤷 well

ill find something

[latent light]

1366x768 laptops still going for $400 these days

[jade tangle]

yeah fuck laptops tbh id just take my desktop everywhere but it weighs 30 kg

[latent light]

get a SFF build

[jade tangle]

i just bought my desktop

and then i would still need a monitor

[prime jasper]

he doesnt carry his desktop around in a backback linked to a UPS and his monitor strapped to his chest with a rollout keyboard/mouse tray
lol never gonna make it

[latent light]

it would be badass if there was SFF motherboards for Ryzen, imagine a 2400G

[jade tangle]

https://www.amazon.de/Dell-Inspiron-13-5379-Convertible/dp/B07D5V45GZ/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=Dell+Inspiron+2-in-1+Laptop+LED-Backlit+Touch+Display%2C+i7-8565U%2C+8GB+2666MHz+DDR4%2C+256+GB+m.2+PCIe+SSD%2C+14"%2C+Silver%2C+Alexa+Built-in+(i5482-7069SLV-PUS)&linkCode=gs3&linkId=ccc41efc4454233b2d54850957fb19a0&qid=1557939152&s=computers&sr=1-1-fkmr0

i have this

anyone has experience with it?

[latent light]

good CPU

[jade tangle]

yeah it also support up to 16gb

[latent light]

4c/8t up to 3.4 GHz single core boost

[warm junco]

hey folks, if I do a clean reinstall of Windows, is it guaranteed to delete all my graphics drivers as well?

or should I use DDU before reinstalling Windows

[prime jasper]

yes, formatting the drive wipes off everything

[warm junco]

alright, cheers :)

[civic pecan]

@quasi sparrow I didnt actually know the homepod existed

[quasi sparrow]

@civic pecan no the HomePod is actually incredible

it's the most underrated Apple product by far

[civic pecan]

Well it could be the best thing ever but I didnt know it existed lol

[quasi sparrow]

you can't find a speaker with its tech for less than several thousand dollars

[civic pecan]

I'll have to have a look at it

Yeah

[quasi sparrow]

two HomePods in sync will likely blow away any <$10000 setup

it's that good

Apple's audio engineers are actually top notch

[civic pecan]

Yeah Apple for audio in general is probably the best they have going for them

[quasi sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7wwtqy/apple_homepod_the_audiophile_perspective/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
@civic pecan

[civic pecan]

Thanks

[quasi sparrow]

this guy gets SCIENTIFIC with it

[civic pecan]

That sounds epic

[quasi sparrow]

like some of the engineering in the HomePod almost redefines what the audio community thought was possible

they bought out the father of THX

[civic pecan]

Oh shit

That's interesting

[quasi sparrow]

the thing with high end speakers is that you need to tune them and position them perfectly in a room for optimal sound

the HomePod actually tunes itself in reference to the room

so anywhere you put it is an optimal position

[civic pecan]

That's pretty fuckin good actually

[quasi sparrow]

you can't buy a speaker that does that for less than five figures

actually the Google Home speakers do it now, but not as well

[civic pecan]

Hm

Yeah I'll have to have a look at them

[quasi sparrow]

but when the HomePod released, the only other speaker that did that is a five figure monstrosity from Bang and Olufsen

[civic pecan]

Would they be better for general listening?

Oh yeah, Bang and Olufsen exists

[storm osprey]

wish i had that last name

[civic pecan]

Forgot about that company, last I heard of them was actually in 2017

[quasi sparrow]

my only qualms about the HomePod are connectivity

wifi only and you basically need apple products

no easy way to use them with your TV or PC

you can work around it, but it's not easy

and no Bluetooth or 3.5mm AUX

[civic pecan]

Yeah, my whole family basically uses only apple

[quasi sparrow]

which again, can be worked around, but you need an adapter

I'm thinking of getting one for my room

also they're loud as fuck

they're really small but ludicrously loud

without distortion

speakers that small aren't supposed to get that loud without distortion

[civic pecan]

So they dont phase

How the f

[quasi sparrow]

Apple somehow got small diameter drivers to have high excursion

[civic pecan]

How bassy are they?

[quasi sparrow]

very

[civic pecan]

Oh shit

[quasi sparrow]

the 4" woofer performs like something much bigger

each of the 8 drivers in the HomePod has its own amplifier

which is how the automatic positioning works

in conjunction with the beamforming mics

[civic pecan]

I'm so like

Bewildered

It sounds too good to be true

[quasi sparrow]

Speaker companies who have not figure out beamforming it even room correction should start worrying. A single HomePod, for the size and price, slaughters most speakers under $1000. I had a hunch that HomePods in Stereo would give my KEF X300A’s a run for their money... now it’s confirmed. Apple briefly demoed stereo for me, and I was quite floored. When Stereo is enabled via software update, a pair of HomePods may be the best under $1000 setup you can get.

normally you want high displacement for accurate sound at high volume

and normally for high displacement, you need big ass drivers

bc displacement = area (size) x excursion (how much the driver fluctuates)

idk how, but they solved this with low area but insane excursion

[civic pecan]

Its really fascinating

I kinda want one but I dont think I'd use it enough

Right now I just want really flat monitors for my room

[quasi sparrow]

yeah, if you take the time to set them up properly, good monitors are still better

[civic pecan]

I would need to properly insulate my room as well though which I cant really do

I might settle for cheap studio headphones

[quasi sparrow]

@civic pecan sennheiser is so unstoppable rn for the price

[civic pecan]

Can that be bought in stores or online only?

Actually dumb question nvm

[quasi sparrow]

Australia's kinda tough for shipping

but go online

Massdrop HD 6XX is unreal value

[storm osprey]

even audiophiles dont talk shit about the 6xx

it really is a good headphone

[quasi sparrow]

yeah it's not the end all be all headphone

but undeniably good for $200

[civic pecan]

Yeah

[grizzled apex]

Rx580 8gb pricetags right now: 😎

I’m seeing some as low as 100$

[civic pecan]

[storm osprey]

@grizzled apex link?

with 2 free games promotion thats one fucking hell of adeal

[grizzled apex]

It’s on eBay and I live in us so it might vary

https://www.ebay.com/i/183776965803?campaign-id=90001&run-date=20190515101000&templateId=e93300ba-9567-4a1f-8418-9da93f983028&templateVersion=362&co=10&placement-type=mfe.rt&user-id=44997095922&instance=1557940200&site-id=0&trackingCode=32TE76001_T_AGM_ORMNP&placement-type-name=mfe.rt&mfe-Id=100887&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F2%252F0%252F8%253Fbu%253D44997095922%2526segname%253D32TE76001_T_AGM_ORMNP%2526crd%253D20190515101000%2526mpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fi%25252F183776965803%25253Fcampaign-id%25253D90001%252526run-date%25253D20190515101000%252526templateId%25253De93300ba-9567-4a1f-8418-9da93f983028%252526templateVersion%25253D362%252526co%25253D10%252526placement-type%25253Dmfe.rt%252526user-id%25253D44997095922%252526instance%25253D1557940200%252526site-id%25253D0%252526trackingCode%25253D32TE76001_T_AGM_ORMNP%252526placement-type-name%25253Dmfe.rt%252526mfe-Id%25253D100887%2526ch%253Dosgood%2526url%253Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fi%252F183776965803%253Fcampaign-id%253D%2524%25257BcampaignId%25257D%2526run-date%253D%2524%25257BRUN_DT%25257D%2526TemplateId%253D%2524%25257BtemplateId%25257D%2526TemplateVersion%253D%2524%25257BtemplateVersion%25257D%2526co%253D%2524%25257BlinkOrder%25257D%2526placement-type%253D%2524%25257BplacementType%25257D%2526user-id%253D%2524%25257BENCRYPTED_USER_ID%25257D%2526instance%253D%2524%25257BINSTANCE_ID%25257D%2526site-id%253D%2524%25257BSITE_ID%25257D%2526TrackingCode%253D%2524%25257BTrackingCode%25257D%2526placement-type-name%253D%2524%25257BplacementType%25257D%2526mfe-Id%253D%2524%25257BmfeId%25257D%2526osub%253D0%2526sojTags%253Demid%253Dbu%252Csegname%253Dsegname%252Ccrd%253Dcrd%252Curl%253Durl%252Cch%253Dch%252Cosub%253Dosub%2526srcrot%253D0%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253Dbcd4226b16a0a68bb9c46fd7ffb2c003&ul_noapp=true

That’s one log ass URL Xd

[storm osprey]

whaaat the fuck

ahh used

[rigid knoll]

Just for BFV.. 2080 or all the way 2080ti?

[prime jasper]

lol depends on resolution

[storm osprey]

resolutions, settings, and what you want

and refresh rate

[quasi sparrow]

^

2070 is fine for high res high refresh rate if you dgaf about settings like me

[grizzled apex]

Still, even 180$ used for 1070 performance is really good

[feral hull]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 6102MB RAM i3-3250 CPU
is my pc sepc enough to play the game on low

[junior plover]

:information_source: Battlefield V: System Requirements
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[feral hull]

donkes't help me

[storm osprey]

i deleted mine so it looked like you did the command xD

[feral hull]

iwant a humans opinion

[prime jasper]

the short answer: no

[storm osprey]

if youre gonna play 1080p with low settings expect like 30 fps

at best

[prime jasper]

during firefights it will probably be more like powerpoint

[feral hull]

wut

[storm osprey]

maybe out in the open youll get 60 fps

[prime jasper]

thats optimistic on a dual core with 6gb ram lol

[supple bane]

ye hahah

[storm osprey]

youre gpu paired witha good cpu gets 45-60 fps, but you have a dualcore

[supple bane]

a 4 core isnt enough for this game really, so a 2 core... ooof

[storm osprey]

id fully expect 30 fps average

dips to 20-25 fps in hectic scenarios

[feral hull]

do i just need to ugprade my CPU in future

[prime jasper]

well more like now if you want to play

and your RAM is low

16gb ddr3 is cheap cheap

[supple bane]

you need to upgrade the entire thing really to play modern AAA games,

[storm osprey]

your entire system is lackluster

[supple bane]

but if you dont want to play modern titles, your system should be ok

[storm osprey]

the weakest link is probably your cpu

[supple bane]

the thing is, you are litterally going to need a whole new system to upgrade to something decent , except for drives, your gonna need:
new gpu
new cpu
new ram
new motherboard
and im gonna assume a new psu considering how old the other parts are

[rigid knoll]

Aiming for 2560x1440, 144Hz/fps

[supple bane]

...

nice, i guess?

[prime jasper]

tbh depending on the board he might be able to get a 6 core xeon in there

which would work quite well

[supple bane]

maybe

chances are tho that it is a no no

[rigid knoll]

Idk if my 6500k would bottleneck me anyways with 2080/ti

[prime jasper]

all depends on chipset

[feral hull]

my Dxdai doenst' show motherbord...

[prime jasper]

use cpu-z

[storm osprey]

@rigid knoll what settngs are you planning on playing with?

[rigid knoll]

Willing to bargain on those. Currently going pretty low on 1070, but would nice to go to medium/high where it makes a difference

[prime jasper]

aint happening on a 6500k lol

[storm osprey]

didnt see that

[supple bane]

hmm, i have never heard of the 6500k, only the 6600 and the 6500

[prime jasper]

well regardless...the 6600 is minimum spec

[rigid knoll]

It's actually 6700k, my bad

[supple bane]

ah, makes more sense

[prime jasper]

much better lol

[supple bane]

im pretty sure that you will get some bottle necking from that

it is only 4 cores, you need at elast 8 imo to get those sort of settings

and the game is really cpu intensive the gpu doesnt help,

[prime jasper]

at 1440p you are gpu bound so at least its not all on the cpu there. but yeah 144fps is highly unlikely at high

[storm osprey]

i think hell get it

[odd mountain]

not with 6700k

[supple bane]

i only have a 1060 3gb and it sits a 50%, so that shows how easy it is on the gpu

[storm osprey]

i play at 1440p with a 4790 and a 1080 on low settings for around 110 fps

[rigid knoll]

Stable 100-110fps wouldn't be bad either

[storm osprey]

you got ddr4 and a newer cpu

[supple bane]

what is your current setup? or is it the 6700k and the 2080ti?

[storm osprey]

i imagine JUST throwing a 2080/2080ti into my system would get me to 140 fps with low

[rigid knoll]

1070 & 6700k

[supple bane]

i would say upgrade cpu imo

[storm osprey]

i think 130fps is easily obtainable with his system and a 2080/ti

[prime jasper]

cant, dead chipset

[odd mountain]

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-6700K/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti/0Fn12nlu/

[supple bane]

take that with a pinch of salt

[rigid knoll]

Yea, needs new mobo too. Got to do it at some point, but figured I'd go gpu first

[storm osprey]

i would do gpu first

bfv one of the few games that hits an entire system

[odd mountain]

true

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-HMTbyS1HA

[supple bane]

hmm, mine only hits cpu

[storm osprey]

looks like 100 fps average with a 2080 and 6700k at ultra settings

[supple bane]

ram and gpu it goes super easy on

[rigid knoll]

Oh, that's nice

Thanks guys

[storm osprey]

[feral hull]

can i earn the tides of war content from past season

re earn

[odd mountain]

you can buy some of them , not fire axe

[storm osprey]

earn them?

not buy?

[feral hull]

ah... fornite route past content is gone forver

maybe ill just buy the game when its 10$ chirstmas...

no ponit in wasting 15$ just to play the game while i can't even earn the content form pass tides off war

[light quail]

CANT HEAR YOU NITRUS

[prime jasper]

So i have this issue where everytime I try and join a session and this goes for both bf4 & bf5 it says "You have lost connection to the session" and I have reinstalled both games x3 along with repaired & updated both games and have gone through both of the games file and reinstalled what I thought was the problem. I still cant connect to a session and all I want to do is play as I have never played any battlefield on PC before.

[storm osprey]

either something up with your networking or something bf/origin/ea related

i forget whic nat type was the most compatible but i think it was nat type 2

[prime jasper]

Do you think there is anything around it. As I have not had any networking issues lately

[storm osprey]

do a firmware update to your router

[grizzled apex]

Do apple routers require firmware update so

Or do they do it automatically

[storm osprey]

idk anything about apple products

if they are doing firmware updates automatically for a router thats pretty cool

[little comet]

Imagine buying a 1tb ssd for $500

[grizzled apex]

That... is very expensive

They go for at least 120$

I’ve never seen one go over 160$

[pine rampart]

quite cheap

[steep gust]

I have

1TB SSDs use to be thousands

[coarse nimbus]

Wow imagine new technology being expensive

[lofty light]

I bought my 1TB SSD for 450 because it was on super special

Now they're practically giving them away

[molten bramble]

When the first consumer HDDs hit the market, they were thousands for megabytes worth of space. Prior to that, we were using 5 1/4 floppies x2 drives.

Here is an interesting site about cost per gigabyte 1980-forward: http://www.mkomo.com/cost-per-gigabyte

[lofty light]

Made me remember when Moore's Law was a thing

[quasi sparrow]

mfw Moore's Law is still a thing

bc it's about transistor count/density, not performance

[prime jasper]

here we go again

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/zombieload-attack-intel-what-to-do,news-30082.html

[supple bane]

right, i want to run a cinebenchtest as i have never done one before, and im checking to make sure i dont have a background process eating my cpu, and it says that my cpu is at 100% but when i scroll through there isnt anything that is using my cpu

is this just a glitch with windows ?

[prime jasper]

reboot and see if its still there

[supple bane]

im just going to leave it for a few mins as it is fluctuating, sometimes dropping to 80% but then coming back up, ill see if it drops back to the usual 5% or so

ye after a while it dropped down, i ran it and got 1.1k cb, i dont know what that compares to... can anyone judge that please 😃

they could at least make a tab which opens out and shows you what cpu's you compare to, instead of just having like 5 cpu's that are no where near your score

[storm osprey]

im gonna have to buy ram soon if the prices start to increase even though im not building for months

does streaming benefit from ram at 32gb vs 16?

[prime jasper]

probably not, unless the the system is eating up all the RAM before the streaming even starts

Is it only for me my game crashes when I'm in the menu after the latest patch?

[indigo shoal]

Hey, I've got a question. Yesterday I bought battlefield 3 on pc (Since I loved it on ps3 back in 2014) I played one match yesterday and everything worked fine. Today I tried to launch the game, but it crashed. The launcher said "Joining server" -> "Initialising" and then crashed. I tried reinstalling, repairing game and cloud storage turned off, but nothing seemed to work. Does anyone know how 2 fix?

[prime jasper]

are you overclocking?

[indigo shoal]

nope

[prime jasper]

perhaps try running it in compatibility mode

[indigo shoal]

Already tried that, doesnt work either

[jade tangle]

is your windows up to date?

[quaint topaz]

big big news

https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1129072821945212930

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[storm osprey]

is this an out of season april fools joke?

[prime jasper]

o.

thats very bad

we need the competition

[prime jasper]

Is it better for me to play at 1200- something at 75HZ than 1080p at 60hz on pc?

My monitor support 75hz but only on lower resolutions

And idk if overclocking a monitor is safe so I don’t want to risk it

[storm osprey]

why isnt the opposite of install outstall or unstall?

[prime jasper]

@storm osprey OBS dosn't use ram what so ever, even under placebo mode

It only use's 6gb max

Normally 3gb

i changed my ram mhz to 3000 from 2933

but didn't change my voltage thing

will it be a problem

[jade tangle]

did you pc explode?

[prime jasper]

Nope

[latent light]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-threadripper-ryzen-3000-cpus-wont-replace/

Rip threadripper

[orchid cargo]

AMD has always ended up failing, in the long run or long fight, in my personal opinion. It's been this way for the last 25 years with AMD. Why would anyone spend that kind of money on a product from a company like AMD?

intel has it's own issues too, the vulnerabilities my goddddd

so i guess their market for threadripper is people that dont want intel but want high end

[prime jasper]

failing would imply bankruptcy, which hasnt happened. They are outselling intel 2 to 1 on Amazon and probably other places too. AMD is undoubtedly the king of value right now, and is making money hand over fist

[orchid cargo]

they certainly have picked up in the fight over the last 2-3 years, A LOT

and yes, they do offer value

but thats the point

so much focus on value, why have a high end product

i wonder wwhat the threadripper sales look like

Imagine another company doing the same thing, like a KIA building a super car

[prime jasper]

wouldnt surprise me if they did, just like good old Honda

[orchid cargo]

well, technically honda doesn't have a supercar

in reality they do, the NSX, but its western world branding is acura

everywhere else its honda 😄

lexus LFA all the way if you're going japanese supercar

[prime jasper]

lol I dont think Ive ever seen one in person

and looks like AMD is now fortune 500

http://fortune.com/fortune500/advanced-micro-devices/

[orchid cargo]

i bet they're killing it in emerging markets

[storm osprey]

wasnt amd the go to choice for a while?

[orchid cargo]

in the early 90s maybe

[storm osprey]

ive only started pc gaming since 2013

[prime jasper]

yeah they were consistently better until core 2 quad came along

[storm osprey]

but i thought i read that amd had a strong hold on the cpu for a long time

[prime jasper]

and they were the first to get a 1ghz desktop chip

[orchid cargo]

yeah in the 80's and 90's

they make a decent product, i've owned several of them

but i personally want the best bang for my buck and i feel that intel offers that more for me as a gamer that wants the most FPS possible for what I can afford

i consider AMD a compromise

[prime jasper]

you can only hope that these continuing security exploits and their mitigations wont drop the gaming performance, otherwise you're screwed

[storm osprey]

^

just read about some zombie named flaw was found

on top of the previous, what? 3?

[prime jasper]

more than that. but all the previous ones have been patched out in OS and microcode updates so far

this new one will require another round of it

[orchid cargo]

its crazy

[storm osprey]

werent specific flaws at the chip design that couldnt be fixed?

[prime jasper]

at the hardware level, yes thus requiring new chips with mitigations built in

[storm osprey]

i vaguely ready this stuff, its mostly over my head

[prime jasper]

this is why AMD hasnt been affected the same way, their architecture is totally different

[latent light]

zombieload affects Intel CPUs all the way back to 2011

[prime jasper]

wouldnt it affect all core series chips? I dont get why it would only affect ivy bridge and up

[storm osprey]

realistically, are these flaws something consumers should care about

[prime jasper]

depends how much you dont care about security updates in general

[icy mist]

hi

[storm osprey]

hello

[icy mist]

can someone help me with motherboard problem. There is light and cpu fan is turning but nothing on screen

[storm osprey]

is this first time putting together build or did it randomly stop working?

[icy mist]

First time putting together a build

[storm osprey]

do you have gpu?

[icy mist]

No I don't have

I bought i7-9700k. I think it has build in gpu?

[storm osprey]

i think it does

[prime jasper]

yes it does

[storm osprey]

yea it does

[icy mist]

There is EATX12 V pin socket for powering cpu. I have 2x4 pin cable from powersupply and another 1x6 pin 1x2 pin cable. It write PCIE on it

[storm osprey]

thats not right

[icy mist]

Which one should I plug into EATX12V socket.

[prime jasper]

yeah thats not right at all

[storm osprey]

should have cable that says cpu

pcie is like for a gpu

[icy mist]

Motherboard is Asus Z370-P

[prime jasper]

did you update the BIOS to accept the 9th gen processors?

[icy mist]

No I didn't

[prime jasper]

but also yes you need to have the correct mobo 24 pin atx power connector

you PSU should have one unless its really old or the wrong type

[latent light]

@icy mist Z370 motherboards dont always have out of box compatibility with 9th gen Intel CPUs

Which is what's probably happening in your case

Have to update the BIOS which requires an 8th gen CPU

[icy mist]

This is the psu. http://www.highpower-tech.com/turkish/product_page.php?class=20110831163239&id=20130814134445
@latent light I think thats the problem

[latent light]

750W 80+ Bronze shouldn't have a problem but I never seen that brand before

[prime jasper]

see the 20+4PIN? @icy mist thats what needs to be plugged into your mobo

[latent light]

Also, if all fans are spinning and all lights are on, then its not the PSU

[storm osprey]

plug in right cpu cables, if that doesnt work, probably gotta update bios

those are your steps right now basically

[latent light]

9th gen intel CPU won't have instant compatibility for a Z370 motherboard that hasn't been updated

Your only options is to return the motherboard, get the retailer to update it for you, or buy the cheapest 8th gen Intel CPU to update the BIOS yourself

[icy mist]

I have i5-7600 at home. Can I update bios with it?

[latent light]

No

That's 7th gen

Only works with Z270

and Z170

Although Z170 needs a BIOS update for a 7th gen lol

Intel motherboard compatibility lasts for 2 generations, the 2nd gen for the motherboard chipsets will always require a BIOS update

[storm osprey]

CAN YOU PLUG IN THE RIGHT CABLES FIRST

[latent light]

Yeah check the 24-pin connector

The biggest connector on the right side of the motherboard

[icy mist]

that is connected

I'm going to find a service to upgrade bios.

[storm osprey]

rereading it now, im confused what you had where, did you have a pcie cable for your cpu?

[latent light]

@icy mist you could return that motherboard and get a Z390, which is 9th gen

But idk if you can return where you live and where you bought it from

[icy mist]

Sorry guys for late reply. My boss kinda freak out until I explained him what's going on. I'm going to update it monday for 10$

[latent light]

is it a work pc?

[icy mist]

Yes it is. For editing videos mostly

This is the cable I have for cpu
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQWyWE3u-Lh6YkGUDmxZNm1FQmwViYMbM1P3yb6ttTCedcJX847

@latent light So h270p or z270p motherboard will support i7 9th generation?

If I update bios?

[latent light]

@icy mist Z390 will support 9th gen without any extra work, Z370 needs a BIOS update

Z270 only works with 6th and 7th gen

the best thing you can do is find someone or someplace that can update the BIOS for you

[icy mist]

Thank you. I was thinking to change my i5 7600 at home. I changed my mind for now. Its going to cost too much with new motherboard and 8th or 9th gen cpu

[latent light]

haven't you already bought a Z370 motherboard and i7-9700K though

[icy mist]

Yes that is for work. It's not mine. I found service to update bios for 10 dolar.
I also have 2 year old system at home. I was thinking to upgrade it but it going to cost more than I thought because I had to change motherboard too. When I collect my first pc setup I didn't know Battlefield required a lot of cpu power. I just bought i5 7600 and gtx 1070

[latent light]

yeah Battlefield V loves CPUs with more cores

[prime jasper]

unless you can find a cheap 7700k to slap in it

[latent light]

i5-7600 is only a 4 core and 4 thread CPU that will get many frame drops in BFV

although it wouldn't have issues in BF1 lol

[icy mist]

I get 60+ fps sometimes I have stuttering. Especially when in action

[latent light]

yeah the stuttering is because you are running out of cores

BFV needs 6 cores, or at least 8 threads to stay consistent

[prime jasper]

yeah benchmarks show a 6700k or better can keep up

[latent light]

CPU needed for stable experience

• 4 core/8 thread
• 6 core/6 thread

basically Ryzen 5 2600, i7-7700, or an i5-8400

[prime jasper]

@icy mist look for a used 7700k and see if you can get one for a good deal, that will help greatly

[latent light]

yeah, just make sure you don't use the stock cooler from your i5-7600 with it lol

[icy mist]

@latent light I did use it with stock cooler, I just recently bought another cooler to reduce temp from 76 to 65

@prime jasper I will check it. Thanks

[latent light]

wait, if you upgraded to a 7700K, you need to make sure your motherboard has an 8-pin connector for the CPU, lots of cheap motherboard out there found in prebuilts only use a 4-pin which is enough for a 7600 but not for a 7700K

[icy mist]

I have Asus z270p at home. I think it has 8 pin connector

[latent light]

this?

[icy mist]

Yes

[prime jasper]

nice board, should be fine

[icy mist]

I wish my only problem were fps stutter. I have bad internet connection. My ping is always high or have spikes. I have 16mb download 1mb upload connection and thats the maximum I can get.

[latent light]

wifi?

or ethernet

if you can directly plug into a modem/router, that would be optimal for stable connection

[icy mist]

I have cable. I have ping between 68-80 but whenever I shoot at someone my ping spikesvto 120-130

Sometime I use my mobile data with 90 ping atleast It doesn't have spikes.

[latent light]

damn mobile data more stable than home network

[icy mist]

until someone call you or send a message 😆

[prime jasper]

Share some big tech news

BIG

[storm osprey]

tesla got a new update

[crude storm]

navi is going to be a huge

[steep gust]

@latent light A 7700k will work fine on a 4 pin

ATX spec is super generous with the cables

[latent light]

Navi is going to match RTX 2070 performance at best

lucky to hit 2080 or Radeon VII tbh

well for at least this year

[crude storm]

so a huge power hungry disappointment 😄

[latent light]

Navi is supposed to be way more power efficient than Polaris

like RX 580 performance at 75W tdp

is what they are aiming for

[steep gust]

leaks are terrible for accuracy

[latent light]

why doesn't AMD just sell Radeon to Intel for like $5-10 billion

Intel has plenty of money to R&D a graphics card that would wipe out Nvidia

[steep gust]

uh

because that isn't how you make money

[storm osprey]

selling stuff sounds like a way to make money

[steep gust]

short term

[storm osprey]

still makin money

💸

[little comet]

what Nvidia GPU has performance equivalent to an RX 580 OC?

because my RX 580 OC kicks ass in bf1 at least

[steep gust]

uh

like a 1060 6gb

its in that performance range

[little comet]

hmm ok

so nothing too crazy I guess?

idk them too well

[latent light]

RX 580 is like a GTX 1660 in BFV

[little comet]

ok

well it runs bf1 cleanly at max settings

for me @ least

[sacred walrus]

@latent light my fx 6300 works quite well on bf5 still

[prime jasper]

@latent light That board is good

My bud can do prime95 small with a 9900k with that board.

[steep gust]

Just the VRM doesn't make a board good

Building a like 250a VRM is pretty easy

[prime jasper]

The vrm's on that board is shit

but

the ram OC is pretty ight

can't pass 3466 for shit but accept's 3200mhz cl12

So not bad

[lofty light]

Got a 360 rad from them and this came in the parcel too

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

Hello! Excuse me guys, I am currently downloading Battlefield V, and I am having an issue. I downloaded 31% of the game, and when I try to start it, it never starts.
It said "Playable at 22%"
And when I try to join it through BF 1, it says "Purchase the Game".

try support as well

!support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[viral pulsar]

Hello, just wanted to drop a small info in regarding AMD drivers and BF4. Maybe some of you already know it or it was posted on a different channel...anyways. AMD removed Mantle support from their newest 19.5.1 driver, so you can't play BF4 with the activated Mantle option. Luckily you can simply copy the following Mantle files from the previous 19.4.3 driver directly into the BF4 mainfolder to make it work again: mantleaxl64.dll mantleaxl32.dll mantle64.dll mantle32.dll amdmantle64.dll amdmantle32.dll

[hollow oriole]

Hey guys, I'm wondering how you guys do the set roles channel.

[coarse nimbus]

@hollow oriole click on the icons for the corresponding roles you want?

[hollow oriole]

Yes,

I've got a little discord and I'm just curious.

[supple bane]

oh you mean how you actually do that if you are a moderator on a sever ?

you need the bot

i think its mee6

correct me if im wrong

[latent light]

Navi 20 gonna be Radeon VII + 50% performance

[steep gust]

@hollow oriole That's done here with Zeppelin, which is a private bot

[supple bane]

welp, there is your answer

interesting to see what the price is going to be for all these new amd stuffs that are coming out

both navi and the 3rd gen cpu's

well, if that is true and if userbenchmark is someone accurate, it will beat/ be on par with the rtx 8000

In terms of 3d stuffs not workstation stuffs. It deffo won’t beat the rtx 8000 in the workstation factor

[steep gust]

It won't beat the RTX 8000 at anything

because userbenchmark is shit

The RTX 8000 is what a server rack RTX Titan?

[latent light]

[molten bramble]

@hollow oriole Try the Aperture bot.

It's based on rawgoat, works very well.

[flint locust]

Don't think rawgoat can do reaction roles

[prime jasper]

Can you use mouse and keyboard on Xbox BFV?

[steep gust]

no

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/klevv-cras-c700-rgb-ssd-m2,39365.html

[steep gust]

ugly

[finite torrent]

[coarse nimbus]

rgb ssd...which heats up?

[steep gust]

LEDs get hot

So lets put something hot

ontop of something hot

[latent light]

T-Force RGB SSD doesn't get hot

[steep gust]

yes it does

all NVMe drives do

[prime jasper]

really liking this new BIOS, Asus stepping it up for the launch

https://valid.x86.fr/1a4l5h

[bleak crag]

hey

sombody know how to fix a bug

its a black screem but the game is still on

[supple bane]

can you see the hud but the map is black?

[bleak crag]

i can se nothing like it totely black when i starte the game but the game is running in the back grunde

[mortal nacelle]

Do you meet the specs for What the game needs ?

[bleak crag]

yes but how manye hz do you need to play

[jade tangle]

how much hz do you have?

[bleak crag]

60

[jade tangle]

that enough

[bleak crag]

ohh

[supple bane]

what refresh rate your monitor has doesnt effect if you can play or not

[bleak crag]

i am just tirit of cant play bf5

and i am raedy to buy every thing

[supple bane]

do you know what your pc specs are?

[bleak crag]

its more than enoth

[supple bane]

that doesnt help...

[bleak crag]

can i speak wiht you

mabye i can shere scremme

[supple bane]

not right now no

[bleak crag]

okye

[jade tangle]

write you specs in here

[bleak crag]

i need to go i will be back

[jade tangle]

[supple bane]

try to launch the game as admin

or maybe try to do a fresh install of your gpu drivers

but seriously, knowing what specs you have in your pc will help

[bleak crag]

i got a gtx 1060 16gb ram and i5procescer

[supple bane]

you say that you cant play bfv right ?

[bleak crag]

yes

[supple bane]

so why are you playing the game ?

[bleak crag]

what

[supple bane]

your telling me you have been looking at a black screen for 22 minutes ?

[bleak crag]

i goes in black scremme but the game is still roning

it

[supple bane]

have you tried just restarting the game ?

[bleak crag]

yes

and downlode it 4 times

[jade tangle]

do you have the latest drivers?

[bleak crag]

yes

[supple bane]

if you do uninstall them and re-install them

then run both origin and bfv as administrator

[jade tangle]

do you have your monitor plugged into you gpu?

[bleak crag]

yes

[jade tangle]

do other games work?

[supple bane]

ok i can screen share now, i just cant talk atm

[bleak crag]

dude i need to go i will be back in a hour 1

[supple bane]

also im having an issue where i cant get into a lobby on most steam games

and it is pissing me off

siege and ring of elysium are just a no go for me, unless im playing with someone, i cant play them as i just queue and queue and queue

does anyone know why it might do this ?

[bleak crag]

hey

@supple bane can you help me now

[supple bane]

im having issues of my own atm m8

[bleak crag]

ohh

can you help me after

[supple bane]

yes

[bleak crag]

thx

you are a legende

[pastel sequoia]

BFV PC, anyone else getting crash to desktops for BFV?

[bleak crag]

yeet

[pastel sequoia]

does anyone have a work around?

[cold cave]

When I go onto the video setting in bfv my screen resolution is 2560/1440p but the refresh rate is 143.86 hz

?

it's set to 144hz in Nvidia control panel

[jade tangle]

jeez

that doesnt matter at all

its never true 144 hz

[supple bane]

ye you wont get it to exactly 144 m8

@pastel sequoia try the other dx from the one that you are using

and i am also having crashing problems with this new update. or the new drivers, i would try go back to the old driver and see how it goes

[bleak crag]

hey man how is it going granty

[supple bane]

im doing a clean install of windows

screen share to me, now

i cant talk though

[bleak crag]

yeet

thx @supple bane so much my game finily works

[jade tangle]

what did you do?

[supple bane]

litterally nothing, the fullscreen mode was glitched and when he screen shared to me, we could see the game on the stream, so he just used that to navigate to settings and change it to borderless

[jade tangle]

lmao setting my drawing program to realtime priority and then drawing crashes everything for a second until my line is finished drawing

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-amd-ryzen-3000-pcie-4.0-x470,39377.html

[steep gust]

uh

That isn't Gigglebyte

That is AMD doing it

Any X470 board with a Zen 2 CPU can make the top x16 slot PCIe 4.0

[latent light]

[steep gust]

But

Your chipset will hate you

PCIe 4.0 clearly draws a decent amount of power

[latent light]

which explains the chipset active cooling on X570 boards

[steep gust]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4158384_adata_xpg_memory_frequency_ddr4_sdram_2868.8_mhz

[violet plank]

iirc the active cooling for x570 (which is mandatory from AMD side) is because of changes N/S Bridge,correct me if i'm wrong

hope they make the fans adaptive,so they can switch off on low usage

[latent light]

why were Intel CPUs like i5-2400 and 2500K then they went to 3470, 3570K, 4440, 4460, 4570K, 4690K, then back to 6400, 6500, 7400, 7500, ect.

why did the 3rd number exist on 3rd and 4th gen

[supple bane]

because intel

and their shitty naming skills

[lost mason]

10th gen

i7 10700K for example

wtf

[latent light]

yeah i7-10700K coming

[supple bane]

why not just a mouth full

They should just have had it super simple. Like i7 one / i7 1 or i7 2 etc

[steep gust]

@violet plank Northbridge is integrated onto the CPU now, and southbridge (chipset) is PCIe, etc

[pastel sequoia]

@supple bane I have tried that and many others. Made a post on it here https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/187742/bfv-crashing-to-desktop-without-an-error#latest

[supple bane]

guys, im trying to make a bootable drive and it keeps saying that it fails to run t his tool, but when i go to the drive i selected, it looks to have all the files that i need on there

will this boot even tho it said that it failed ?

[jade tangle]

what program do you use?

[supple bane]

media creation tool?

[jade tangle]

oh

so for windows boot

[supple bane]

yes

[jade tangle]

did you do diskpart before?

[supple bane]

im just going to boot off it and see what happens

also no

[jade tangle]

if it doesnt work try formatting it with diskpart before

[supple bane]

ok, i just formatted it

lets try again

yup it failed again

as im doing it tho

i keep getting alerts that tell me that there is a problem with this device

do you think that has something to do with it ?

[jade tangle]

what is it formatted as?

[supple bane]

wait let me set it as boot priority and see how it goes

OKKK

that didn’t work

[molten bramble]

http://video.arstechnica.com/watch/megabots-born-to-smash-anything-in-their-path Only a matter of time before Skynet becomes self-aware and these mfers are running around, lol.

[quartz whale]

https://youtu.be/KL2L2dbpFVA anybody have any idea why my mouse seems to skip as shown in the video it’s a bit weird I always seem to have this problem with wireless mouses

[molten bramble]

DPI vs surface?

[orchid cargo]

whats the surface?

[quartz whale]

What do u mean

[orchid cargo]

you're using the mouse on top of a surface

what is the surface details

material

etc

colour

the issue appears to be the laser not reading

therefore no action being done on screen

[quartz whale]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mouse-pads/g240-cloth-gaming-mouse-pad.html

[molten bramble]

What's the mouse?

[orchid cargo]

DPI?

also the make / model of the mouse as hydra mentioned

[quartz whale]

800

And Corsair harpoon wireless

[orchid cargo]

windows 10?

[quartz whale]

Yep

[molten bramble]

Hmmm, haven't used that mouse. Maybe a weak laser?

[orchid cargo]

compatibility checks out

id start looking into system issues

[molten bramble]

I have a much more porous surface than that pad with no issues.

[orchid cargo]

too much running, resource issues, etc

[molten bramble]

^ might be system stutter--paging file? not enough memory? throttling?

[orchid cargo]

does a wired mouse work fine?

[quartz whale]

Yeah a wired one does

[orchid cargo]

and you've tried a different wireless mouse recently?

with the same issue?

[quartz whale]

Yeah I had the same issue with a G305

[molten bramble]

hmm

[orchid cargo]

its the system in some form

lets start big

time since last format?

and how many people use this system?

im leaning towards just an overload on the system

conflict somewhere

[quartz whale]

It’s just me

[orchid cargo]

same issue in windows as in the game?

[quartz whale]

I haven’t really like honestly noticed it in windows

[orchid cargo]

test it pls

now im leaning towards cpu overheating

or gpu

or as hydra mentioned, memory

not enough of it, or all in use, etc

can you check your temps in game

when the issue occurs

[quartz whale]

Yeah I can

[orchid cargo]

application called core temp is good for cpu

https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

[steep gust]

Hardware info

[quartz whale]

I have HWINFO64

[steep gust]

begone with that useless only does one part

[orchid cargo]

if the issue doesn't occur outside an intense application like a game or rendering, then it may very well be cpu/gpu related

does it occur on more than 1 game as well?

[shut zephyr]

imagine trying to save minecraft builds with your USB but your craptop crashes

[orchid cargo]

in any troubleshooting, we want to isolate the problem as best sa possible

[quartz whale]

@orchid cargo okay GPU is 53c and the max the cpu hit was 61c

[orchid cargo]

so its not overheating, temps are great

does it happen in more than 1 game?

[quartz whale]

I haven’t but I can real quick

[orchid cargo]

gotta figure out whats broken

is it the mouse?

the game?

the system?

try the mouse on another computer

do things to eliminate possibilities

as a last resort, i'd say format the system and reinstall windows

if you know what to do, takes 12 minutes

[quartz whale]

The thing is when my G305 did this I tried it on my brothers system and it never had a problem

[orchid cargo]

right, so it sounds like its something on your system

go through applications, start uninstalling useless things

things you dont use anymore

[quartz whale]

Yep and it’s doing in another game

[orchid cargo]

things that might be running for no reason

reinstall the mouse software

[quartz whale]

Alright

[orchid cargo]

computers might not have moving parts, but the OS certainly needs TLC sometimes to operate at its peak

[quartz whale]

Also my specs are 9600K @ 5ghz RTX 2070 16GB RAM @orchid cargo

Reinstalling mouse software now

And the issue is present @orchid cargo

Still

[steep gust]

Make sure you don't have other drivers

[orchid cargo]

ill look into some things to try

and let you know

im sure others have the same problem

theres gotta be a solution

your pc sounds and appears to be running fine temp wise, so id look into conflicting software

[jade tangle]

if its a wirless mouse there is a chance that there are conflicting signals. if you have wlan or a handy lying around that could be a problem i think

[quartz whale]

@orchid cargo I think I might of fixed it running it on usb 2.0

[orchid cargo]

wrong port, ahhhh

i was thinking it might need 3.0

[jade tangle]

na i think its other way around he was running it on usb3

[orchid cargo]

why would that cause a problem

[quartz whale]

Nah I had it on 3.1 before

[jade tangle]

usb 3.x can cause issues with input devices

e.g not even responding when stearting your pc etc

i had that problem a lot when i had my mouse or keyboard on usb 3. it didnt respond when i started my pc so i needed to plug it in and out

[molten bramble]

Which is quite odd since it's backwards compatible.

[quartz whale]

I don’t wanna say I completely fixed it but I will keep u guys updated

Also when I first got this mouse and plugged it in last night I got a error of USB controller resources exceeded

I re plugged it in and the message seemed to go away?

[jade tangle]

depends on how much stuff you have plugged in to a usb3 port

[orchid cargo]

cameras use a lot of usb bandwidth

[quartz whale]

I don’t have a camera

[orchid cargo]

have a camera hooked up on the same set of ports?

what else is plugged with it

[jade tangle]

usb ports only have a specific in and output so you might have reached that

[orchid cargo]

my DSLR has to be solo or it exceeds

[jade tangle]

my tesla too

[quartz whale]

I only have 3 things plugged in to my USB 2.0 ports is my headset keyboard and now the wireless mouse

[jade tangle]

what headset uses usb

wtf

ok new stuff

im a 3.5 guy

you could try front usb for the headset since that uses another header i think

[quartz whale]

Well it seems to happening but less frequent now

Maybe interference?

[jade tangle]

you use wlan?

[quartz whale]

WLAN?

[jade tangle]

wireless or cable?

for your internet

[quartz whale]

I’m wired

[jade tangle]

ok

idk

i have no clue about wireless mice

maybe your pc is too far away

[quartz whale]

It’s like right behind my monitor so it’s not that far away

Like a few feet away

[grizzled apex]

Your mouse must be very close to the wireless adapter to work.

That or the mouse may be dead

[quartz whale]

It is very close I’d say 1 feet or so

[steep gust]

what kind of garbage wireless mouse are y'all using

[prime jasper]

maybe the mouse needs new firmware

[sacred walrus]

fx6300

[prime jasper]

lol wut

[storm osprey]

I assumed this was a previous conversation, scrolled up and saw nothing

[quartz whale]

I figured out what it is my router is near my computer and could be interfering with the mouse which uses 2.4ghz wireless

[latent light]

AMD stock was only $2 in Q1 2016

now it's $28

[prime jasper]

couldve invested that...kill me now

[quartz whale]

but it uses slipstream tech which finds the best channel so im guessing i have too RMA..

[steep gust]

uh

Your router and a bluetooth mouse will never interfere

[lofty light]

Microwave will if it's a 2.4 wireless mouse though

[steep gust]

only in close distances