#technology | Battlefield | Page 206

lofty light May 10, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I never use my camera so it works for me

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I might also switch to a Google Pixel

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The Pixel 3a is pretty cheap

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impressive camera but the tech inside is like mid range

flint locust May 10, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Can we just stop taking selfies so front cameras aren't needed

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:44 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3DHfYNqwc

YouTube

Nadine Graciella

calculator selfie vine

original here: https://vine.co/v/izjljaVAl65

▶ Play video

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:45 AM

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guys

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what are some new low tier gpus

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:45 AM

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price range?

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:46 AM

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like a similar price as a 750ti

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how much is that one

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:46 AM

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There's the GTX 1660 Ti but never bothered to check it's performance

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:46 AM

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where u live

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i mean

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really low tier

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:47 AM

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the 1660 Ti is like $230

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:47 AM

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poor budget style

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gotta be lower

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maybe there isnt any

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just asking

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a friend has an old pc with an fx4300 and wants a gpu for it

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a new tier gpu would be a waste

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i suggest a 750ti but im not sure

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:49 AM

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could go for a GTX 960 or 970 but i expect the cpu to bottleneck the living hell out of them

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Can find GTX 9 series cards pretty cheap atm

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:51 AM

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is the regular 960 one 4gb?

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or 2?

latent light May 10, 2019, 4:53 AM

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@fallen harbor check out a RX 570

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$120 USD

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also comes with 2 games

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GTX 970 performance

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although will be bottlenecked by a Fx-4300

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LUL

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would be a good GPU to buy though even if there is a bottleneck

lofty light May 10, 2019, 4:57 AM

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In future you can get a better CPU for it too

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I've seen CPUs better than that chucked weekly in my job

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:57 AM

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is the 960 2gb or 4gb

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ti= 4gb?

lofty light May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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It's either

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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huh

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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960 has 2 versions

lofty light May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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The extra vram shouldn't matter btw

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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i just want to know what v ersion it is

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because the price differs

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also for benchmarks

lofty light May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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GN did a test and it's only going to effect like 2 games

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Get the cheaper one

quaint topaz May 10, 2019, 4:58 AM

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There's both 2GB and 4GB for the same card just read the description before buying

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Jesus... if only I could fix this disconnect issue.

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:14 AM

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@fallen harbor how much is your friend looking to spend

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 5:14 AM

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local prices are a lot different

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so i really dont know how to tell

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:15 AM

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if he gets a low tier GPU now and upgrades CPU/motherboard/ram in the next year, then that GPU he bought this year was a waste

fallen harbor May 10, 2019, 5:16 AM

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he doesnt plan on upgrading the rest any soon

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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he's kinda poor

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tbh

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ngl

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like legit

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:16 AM

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that sucks

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Fx-4300 won't be able to run any new games soon

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even at 10 fps

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Rx 570 pretty good

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For low budget

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:17 AM

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yeah RX 570 is the best value, but even if that's too much, get a RX 550 or maybe a used 750Ti

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:18 AM

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@little comet palpy, you're not dead!

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Life a gtx 1050 but cheaper, more power consumption

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Hello

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I just built a pc

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:18 AM

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RX 570 is on par with the GTX 1060 3GB

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performance wise

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Ah

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:18 AM

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also has 4GB of vram which makes it even better than the 1060 3gb tbh

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I used to be named Chiang Kai shrek

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And kinda clueless

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:21 AM

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-4300-vs-AMD-Athlon-200GE/2879vsm592714

UserBenchmark: AMD Athlon 200GE vs FX-4300

Based on 30,804 user benchmarks for the AMD Athlon 200GE and the FX-4300, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,157 CPUs.

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Athlon 200GE is $50 and 26% faster than Fx-4300

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also, Fx-4300 says it has 4 cores but it really only has 2

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Rx 570 has crazy deals

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There was one of 120 dir rx 570 and 2 games

latent light May 10, 2019, 5:23 AM

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yeah

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The Division 2 gold edition and World War Z included

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$120 worth of games and a free GPU basically

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LUL

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Yeah

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You could call the rx 570 the ak 47 of gpus

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I got an rx 580 oc for mine but that's more expensive

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I didn't get either Yikes

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:28 AM

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haHAA

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But I can't play bf1 until Monday because I need to get it an OS tomorrow then leave for cabin

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FeelsMeowMan

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Oh damn man

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Should get win 10 and never license it

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Lol

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My friend found a sketchy site

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:30 AM

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You have the watermark and can't change the colours but who cares about that tbh

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:30 AM

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My old pc had unlicensed windows 7

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Win 10 for $20 cad (14 usd)

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I bought mine for $80 AUD but didn't bother licensing my server yet

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Aussie/

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Yuss

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Thank you Australia for plastic money

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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canadan

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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It's so good

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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It pree great

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Yeah

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I accidentally 'wash' my wallet a lot so it's nice

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Canadans are from canadia

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Yea

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Lol

little comet May 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Canadianians

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I am from Naboo

lofty light May 10, 2019, 5:40 AM

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I took a ride down to Naboo, cause queen amadana wanted to

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:43 AM

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how many fps could I expect when I run bf5 on gtx 970 and i7 4790?

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Not good

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JK idk

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For reference my rtx 2080 runs bf5 at 120 fps all ultra if that helps

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Without overclocking

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And my friend who has a GTX 1060 runs bf5 at about 100 fps

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On high and medium

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@rich willow

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:49 AM

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ok thank u

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Maybe 60 fps medium but like I said before never used it

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:49 AM

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i would like to run it over 100fps to feel a bit smoother on 144hz

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Yt videos probably will tell you

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:49 AM

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yes i watchd them. between 70 to 90 fps

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Oh ok

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That's not too bas

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Bad

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:50 AM

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yes i will see how it will run on low settings

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Mhm

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:50 AM

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but i don't want to reduce the scaling

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then it looks like trash xD

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Srry for my english btw i'm german

latent light May 10, 2019, 6:51 AM

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might get some small occasional stutter from the i7-4790, 4 cores/8 threads is the limit for BFV

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Just buy a rtx 2080 ti to for 2 grand ez

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Right lads

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Forgot to add ti lol

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:53 AM

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rtx is a bit expensive and for me, a student, this is way too much Happy

exotic plover May 10, 2019, 6:56 AM

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:P

rich willow May 10, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Sad

latent light May 10, 2019, 6:57 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/cdbc497255ecd00b7ab1016b5686497a.png

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RX 570 stomps the GTX 970

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https://i.gyazo.com/c9a02f10f43b0ae996341cd2e44e79fb.png

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I think R6 Siege is AMD optimized

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Thonk

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:11 AM

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why should i play bf5 on such high settings?

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I think it would be better to have more fps and lower the quality

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Thonk

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:13 AM

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that's just a comparison chart

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RX 570 gets around 15% more performance

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you probably need a card in the range of RX 580 to GTX 1660 Ti performance tbh

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for your monitor

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:15 AM

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yes this is the Problem. I can run bf4 on 200 fps and now everything will be killed xD

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:19 AM

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RX 580 gets around 90 fps with all settings on high

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120 fps average with everything low, stays above 100

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although could vary depending on CPU

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:22 AM

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yes i heard about it

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:22 AM

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GTX 970 to RX 580 is only a 20% upgrade though lol

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well, like 30% in BFV due to the game liking AMD cards for some reason

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:23 AM

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120-20%

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xD

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so i will get around 90. i will see if i downloaded it with my trash wifi

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:24 AM

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when I play on everything ultra, I get 80 fps average with dips into the mid 60s

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I've got a 580

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and a Ryzen 5 1600 at 3.8 GHz

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on low it seems around 120 fps average with lows down to 100

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:25 AM

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i got an xeon e3 1231 v3

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xD

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its like an i7 4790

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:26 AM

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between a 3770 and 4770

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tbh

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:27 AM

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no I think it is even better then 3770

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Happy

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:27 AM

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roughly 3% faster than 3770 and 4% slower than 4770

jade tangle May 10, 2019, 7:28 AM

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just use linux for gaming iTs tHe FutUrE oF GaMiNg

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where every game runs like shit

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talking to palpatine

rich willow May 10, 2019, 7:28 AM

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cloud gaming WeSmart

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Xeons seem a bit... bipolar when it comes to gaming

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LUL

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can yours use quad channel ram?

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nvm it's only 2 channels

lofty light May 10, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I can quad channel but I don't damn_DABniel

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:38 AM

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it would only be a 10-15% fps increase in BFV

jade tangle May 10, 2019, 7:39 AM

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thats a lot tbh

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well not if you have 1fps

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WeSmart

lofty light May 10, 2019, 7:39 AM

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I've already got more frames than my monitor can put out on max tbh

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:39 AM

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yeah 140 fps to 160 fps difference

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quad channel also has more stable frametimes

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but not by much

grizzled apex May 10, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Also I would not recommend a 1660 ti with DDR3 16gb and a 4790k. It’s a 7% decrease in performance easily

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 3:44 PM

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my lord ram and ssd prices are dropping

grizzled apex May 10, 2019, 3:50 PM

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and Rysen prices

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probably will go up in us because of china trade issues xD

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 3:55 PM

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yea heard about that

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fun

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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RAM is actually super cheap now compared a while ago

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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its literally half the price

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Ye

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I remember paying 400 Euro for 32GB haHAA

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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jesus christ

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yea, the most popular sticks of ram on pcpartpicker at the highest price was 204 bucks, its now 90 bucks

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Did buy the G.skill trident z

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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RGB?!

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Yesss

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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lets see price for that

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220+ before

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is now 110

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:12 PM

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📎 20181207_024657.jpg

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:12 PM

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orange?!

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Eh its a pretty bad picture

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Orange/red

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Still need to get a new cooler though

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 4:13 PM

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well those are addressable by the motherboard

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I have those too lol

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:14 PM

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for my next build i want to do some rgb, but idk how

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I kinda want a new cooler but the thing is that I don't really wanna spent any money on my setup for a while

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 4:16 PM

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why would you need a new cooler?

molten coral May 10, 2019, 4:17 PM

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my 8700k gets really hot and this cooler is alright but there are better ones/

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:18 PM

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has 4790.... non k

supple bane May 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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@storm osprey, the best way to do rgb is not to really have that many rgb parts, yes have them obs, but mainly have strip lights at the top of the case, when i went to insomnia (british gaming festival) the pc's that where on t he game booths had an rgb cooler and rgb ram, and rgb fans. and they had some super bright strip lights at the top, and this made a really cool effect

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they had the parts on blue and the strip lights on pink and it looked amazing

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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oh i definitely dont want that

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i just want some pops

supple bane May 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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oh...

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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right now only my gpu rgb

supple bane May 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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just throw on some rgb fans and an rgb cpu cooler

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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rgb mobo, ram, and cooler. bam youre done

supple bane May 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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nah, ram doesnt look that good in rgb imo

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I have all mine syncing up with aura to show temps so they all change in sync anyway

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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im only gonna replace my cpu, ram, and mb

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i have 7 cougar fans that i love right now

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not gonna buy new fans just for rgb

supple bane May 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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fair enough

latent light May 10, 2019, 7:46 PM

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📎 image0.png

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/201285614139817/

‎Facebook Marketplace‎

Gaming PC

Processor: AMD 8350
RAM: 8.0 GB
Storage: 1TB
Graphics card: EVGA Geforce 1070ti
Works great never had any issues out of it. Message me for more details price is 600 OBO

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Fx-8350 and 1070Ti

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LUL

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 8:02 PM

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sure, it'll play games. 600 though....yikes

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 8:06 PM

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600?!

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you can build better for free games for slightly more...

supple bane May 10, 2019, 8:07 PM

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tbf i bet the 1070ti is most of that

latent light May 10, 2019, 8:10 PM

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it is

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used Fx-8350 goes for like $40

supple bane May 10, 2019, 8:11 PM

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well a 1070ti is 810 usd in the uk

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so that says something

latent light May 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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lol just get a 2060

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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is that just a huge heatsink? weird ass cooler

supple bane May 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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a 2060 is 400 usd here

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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you can get a 2600 for 145, a 1660ti for 280

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2600 comes with 2 games

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(idk if these deals are live atm)

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425 right there, 175 to fill out the rest of the components to match that ad

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what a horrible deal

latent light May 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Ryzen 5 2600 on sale for only $145 on amazon

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2600X $160

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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WITH 2 free games

latent light May 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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2700 $195

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They are getting rid of Zen+ stock

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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oh yea

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im guessing zen 2 is gonna be good

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Man, I tell you what, for what it is, the 1660Ti has significantly helped the gameplay.

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Still looking at taking it back this weekend and picking up a 20* series card.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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uh

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1660ti to 2060 isn't much

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I was looking at the 2070 tbh

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No founders types, but they did have an MSI.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:16 PM

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2070 is a decent buy

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don't buy the founder's edition anyways

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I would see if they have of the binned GPUs one

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paying an extra like $30 can easily net you a solid gain in freq

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Link me to the type? I'll check.

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Little faded at the moment, office sip-session. 😄

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:17 PM

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I forget the exact

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but its pretty much having a boost freq >1850mhz or so

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Okay, that's what I thought. I could have sworn they had one. I'll talk to the dude up there tonight and see.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:18 PM

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yeah stuff with boost clocks around 1600-1700mhz will be the non-binned (so the non -A) GPUs

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:18 PM

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unless youre playing at 1440p or 240hz 1080p, i dont see a 2070 being much help

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Its like a 1080

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and my 1080 sometimes hold me back at 1080p 144hz

molten coral May 10, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Cries in 1070

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Right now, the 1660Ti @ 144 can be sporatic with the FPS. Way better than the 1050Ti by miles, I'll admit.

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Back in a bit.

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:20 PM

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i can only see a 1080 holding back in an unoptimized game like bfv at ultra settings

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:20 PM

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yeah well BFV slams both my CPU and GPU to 100%

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or it did

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I haven't played in 6 months

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:20 PM

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CSL is heavily unoptimized, and the 1660Ti is a workhorse with it.

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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i use a 1080/4790 for 1440p gaming on low and sit around 100-120 fps

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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If you want really stable FPS I would go with a higher GPU than you need

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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R6S is hugely better in terms of FPS and texture with the 1660Ti.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Its why I went with a 1080

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Also 1080p 240hz monitors are getting pretty cheap

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I might pick one up at a later date, but the 144 @ 27" is doing superb.

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I either stay with this for a hot minute and pick up a high-end 20* series card later, or I pick up a 2070 now and wait even longer for the next gen.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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27" 1080p?

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big oof

molten coral May 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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49'' 1080p

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Gawdamn

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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ppi at 27" 1080p NotLikeThis

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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27" 1080p is stretched

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I was looking at the ultrawide Samsung, but it still needs to come down off that price before I even consider the purchase... and even then, as counterintuitive as it may seem, I like compartmentalizing my apps to smaller scales.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I kinda want a ultrawide monitor

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but at the same time having a 240hz monitor for competitive games sounds nice

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:26 PM

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@steep gust Not to disregard the coolness of it, but I think it would agitate me more than compliment my workflow.

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:26 PM

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PPI of 22" 1080p is identical to 27" 1440p

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:26 PM

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ppi doesn't help stretching

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:26 PM

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yeah 24" and under is best for 1080p

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funny there's phones with a 5" screen at 1440p

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kinda useless

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:28 PM

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On the 27", I'm 2560x1440 in-game, with no tearing which is incredible compared to the previous.

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:29 PM

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109 ppi with 27" 1440p

92 ppi with 24" 1080p

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my brother has a Acer Predator X34 which is 3440x1440 at 34"

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and I thought the pixel density was garbage

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even compared to my 24" 1080p

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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You want pixel density

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buy 4k

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yeah, also known as 'girth' 😄

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j/k

molten coral May 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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@molten bramble The super ultrawide from samsung?

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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@molten coral yeah man, I was checking that out the other day

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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except 4k is not reasonable

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

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4k 60hz isn't hard to do

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

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my RX 580 could do 4K 60 fps at lowest settings haHAA

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:34 PM

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@latent light So now you're better than us, huh? 😄

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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consistent frametimes and pixel density is my preferred experience

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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i dont want absurd jaggies, and i want a smooth experience

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Anyone else buy V8 juice in bulk? Gets me some vitamins and a heavy dose of sodium. Think if I poured it on this GPU I'd get better frames? Asking for a friend. 😄

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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RX 580 can manage 30 fps on high settings preset 4K in BFV

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LUL

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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i fucking hate v8

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i hate tomatoes

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Racist.

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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what about V8 fruit juice

storm osprey May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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v8 is the devils juice

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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No! Vegist.

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😄

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@latent light Tried it, but it was too concentrate and fucked with my reflux.

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:38 PM

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WoahTea

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Also, dropped frames. #ijs

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I'm shocked with utter amazement when I see a B350 motherboard running 3200 MHz memory WoahTea

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or is that not impressive

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FeelsMeowMan

sacred walrus May 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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fx 6300

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I could only run 1866 MHz on my Fx-8350

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RIP

sacred walrus May 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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1050ti

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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DDR3

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is different than DDR4

sacred walrus May 10, 2019, 10:43 PM

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16GB ram

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1600mhz

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:43 PM

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yeah that cpu be pretty bad

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Ddr3 is differnt than ddr4 this whole time!?!?!?!

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monkaGIGA

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:44 PM

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no

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same thing they just charge you more

molten coral May 10, 2019, 10:44 PM

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If you don't have anything to add to the conversation why even say anything

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:45 PM

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haHAA

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:45 PM

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No kidding got old quick

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:45 PM

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just realized there was DDR3 3200 MHz sticks

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WoahTea

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what platform would you need to run DDR3 at 3200

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Z97

molten coral May 10, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@molten bramble But I got the 49'' ultrawide from samsung and I freakin love it. It's kinda expensive but for me the biggest thing is: no more hassle with a monitor frame in the middle.

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:46 PM

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So I think it's about time to start experimenting with this board/memory to OC.

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:46 PM

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DDR3 3200mhz isn't even the good ICs

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:47 PM

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I only got my ddr3 to 3000mhz on dual sticks. It's pretty fucking hard.

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:48 PM

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📎 bbacae3a1a270aff50a99283b1e79cfe.png

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GWqlabsKek

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1.65v toasty

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:48 PM

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@molten coral I remember the pic of your setup, I am thinking one 27", two 24" and a 32" TV.

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:48 PM

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That's actually really little

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For ddr3

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Safe volts is 1.85v

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Past that is sketch

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:49 PM

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watercool the ram once you get to 1.85v

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Good luck on a CPU that will run that daily

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Not really needed till 2v

latent light May 10, 2019, 10:50 PM

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or use a.... chiller GWahreeVampySmug

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:50 PM

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DDR3 has different safe voltages

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for each IC

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and so does DDR4

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its just no one tests it

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Pretty sure my CJR degraded at 1.45v

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but I'm too lazy to test it

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Also I dont even know anyone that actually did 3200 cl9 on ddr3

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Let alone that clock speed in genral

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:53 PM

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It should be possible cold

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Out of the box

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Tho

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Like

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feelspepospin

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Would be more believable than seeing someone at 5100 cl18

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For daily

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:54 PM

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5100 CL18 isn't possible

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:54 PM

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That's what I'm saying

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:54 PM

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on a daily system

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:54 PM

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For daily

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:54 PM

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also its Corshit

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They probably just binned the sticks to that and knowing Corsair it can't even do it properly

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Daily.

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Hell I was at cl12 to get 3000 to work for ddr3 and that's with really gnarly hyperx

steep gust May 10, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Gotta have that PSC for cold scaling NotLikeThis

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Yeah well I dint do subzero in 2013

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brainlet

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Wish I did

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Intel i7 8700K w/ Corsair LPX 3200 32Gb.... let's take bets what I can get out of the setup? LUL

steep gust May 10, 2019, 11:05 PM

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well

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Depending on the board

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You can easily do XMP

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 11:09 PM

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MSI MEG Z390 ACE

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The next step was GODLIKE, but I wasn't looking to drop $ on that.

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I haven't yet enabled XMP, been babying the setup making sure everything worked properly before I started switching things up.

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So far it's been pretty damn stable.

prime jasper May 10, 2019, 11:11 PM

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People dint like that name but that name... fucking beautiful alzabene

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"Godlike"

steep gust May 10, 2019, 11:12 PM

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godlike is such a shit board tho

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Should be like $400

molten bramble May 10, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Part of the reason I didn't buy it, wasn't much of an advantage over the ACE

little comet May 11, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Woohoo new PC is awesome

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Runa bf1 smoothly on ultra

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Unfortunately can't play multiplayer until Sunday but still happy

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RX 580 oc + amd ryzen 5 2600

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16 gb RAM

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 4:56 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-lord-gif-7488750

shut zephyr May 11, 2019, 12:19 PM

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You now have: unlimited power GWbratEvilkermit

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GWcorbinTopKek

jade tangle May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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anyone here well versed with unity ?

raven blade May 11, 2019, 3:19 PM

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i5-9600k or i7-8700? Trying to decide for my upcoming build

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 3:57 PM

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For bfv, 8700k wrecks it

raven blade May 11, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I'm not talking 8700k, just 8700 locked

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I don't really have the extra 70 bones for the K

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The 9600k has 6 less threads but performs around the same as the 8700 and is around 60 bucks cheaper. With the reduced thread count I'm not sure

supple bane May 11, 2019, 4:27 PM

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if you just want it for the gaming side of things and you dont want to do any work on your pc then the 9600k would be better as it is cheaper and as far as im aware thread count doesnt matter that much for bfv,

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why not the 2600x anyway ?

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that has more threads, basically the same clock. and is loads cheaper

warm junco May 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Because mobo

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Probably

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Ah, upcoming build. Nvm then ig

supple bane May 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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slowly nods head

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heh

raven blade May 11, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Because in multiple tests I've seen even the AMD 2700X is significantly slower in gaming than any of the newer Intel chips

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The 2700x is up to like 40 fps slower than the i7-8700k

steep gust May 11, 2019, 4:58 PM

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uh

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You realize max FPS is worthless

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If you have a 1080p 144hz monitor

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150fps vs 200fps is the same

supple bane May 11, 2019, 4:59 PM

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i said 2600x anyway

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but yes, the 2700x is slightly more powerful than the 2600x

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but is still 100 pound more

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Except with my GPU it's the difference between 110 fps and 160

steep gust May 11, 2019, 5:00 PM

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You can't compare different CPUs and GPUs

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directly

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I'm not

steep gust May 11, 2019, 5:00 PM

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One variable at a time

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I'm saying with my gpu these two CPUs push different fps to support it. The AMD 2700x with is about 30-35 fps slower than the i7-8700 paired with a RTX 2070

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And they are the same price

supple bane May 11, 2019, 5:01 PM

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what is the fps tho

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yes it is slower, but what is the fps

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as like what predator said, there isnt any point having an fps< than your monitors refresh rate

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I already said, it's the difference between me hitting 144hz or not

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With the 8700 I'll be hittinf around 150 fps on ultra as for what I've seen on my friends 2700x he gets about 105-110

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 5:03 PM

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are those those tests you are looking at on dx11 or 12?

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that can make quite a difference

steep gust May 11, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Friends is worthless

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You want the exact same setup to compare

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:04 PM

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This is with directx11 I believe

supple bane May 11, 2019, 5:04 PM

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with that gpu you want dx 12 as far as im aware

jade tangle May 11, 2019, 5:04 PM

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dont

supple bane May 11, 2019, 5:05 PM

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oh ok

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:05 PM

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I would be using DX12

jade tangle May 11, 2019, 5:05 PM

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dx12 is trouble in bf5

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 5:05 PM

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my 2700x/rtx 2080 loves dx12 so I cant argue with it

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the people who have trouble seem to have lower spec hardware aka less than 6 cores

supple bane May 11, 2019, 5:05 PM

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well you have to have which dx your system supports

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it isnt going to be the same for every system

raven blade May 11, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I'm going to ask Linus Tech Tips because I also am pursuing a career in video editing which would benefit from a powerful CPU especially multicore

steep gust May 11, 2019, 5:06 PM

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what

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKEgqZv1SgE

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Live: AMD Ryzen Extreme Overclocking Past 5GHz, ft. Bearded HW

We're finally doing it! This livestream intends to overclock AMD Ryzen CPUs (R7 2700X) past 5GHz on liquid nitrogen, ft. Bearded Hardware. Ad: Buy Gigabyte's...

▶ Play video

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 5:18 PM

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lmao they have the opposite amounts of hair

supple bane May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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haHAA

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 5:24 PM

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and I have that mobo, sweet

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:14 PM

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@prime jasper actually ironically dx12 issues are with higher end cpu's

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Dx12 helps more with a CPU that has bad single core

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Hench the 2700x

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The RTX 2080 has equal performance to the 1080 Ti. Change my mind

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I thought that was the general consensus

forest token May 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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encoder performance is better on 2080

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mind changed Happy

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Well let me ask you

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does the encoder make graphics look better w/ little frame reduction?

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tbh I don't know what the encoder is

forest token May 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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x264 nvenc encoding on the gpu

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:30 PM

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um ok

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You know if I had lots of money, one thing I'd get is the Titan RTX

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That thing is a beast good god

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If you wanna play with Raytracing with absolutely no frame reduction, go for that lmao

forest token May 11, 2019, 6:30 PM

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looking for a link

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:34 PM

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The 2080 beats the 1080ti out at stock

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and even more once overclocked

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Why do you say that

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Also the RTX Titan loses to the 2080ti while gaming

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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What makes it beat 1080 Ti out of stock

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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because it has higher performance?

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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False.

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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a 1080ti at stock settings loses to a stock 2080

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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No it doesn't lol

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What makes it lose

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:36 PM

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worse performance?

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3365-nvidia-rtx-2080-founders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti

NVIDIA RTX 2080 Founders Edition Review & Benchmarks: Overclocking...

It’s more “RTX OFF” than “RTX ON,” at the moment. The sum of games that include RTX-ready features on launch is 0. The number of tech demos is growing by the hour – the final hours – but tech demos don’t count. It’s impressive to see what nVidia is doing in ...

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wow took 30 seconds

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:37 PM

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All the research that has been done shows the 1080 Ti and 2080 have equal performance, even in 4K. I have a FTW3 Elite model 1080 Ti and I can run 99% of my games at 60FPS (and higher) with 4K and I'm not even overclocked.

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:38 PM

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uh

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the FTW3 is factory overclocked

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Thonk

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:38 PM

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No it's not wat

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I know someone IRL who has a 2080 and his 2080 literally performs almost equal to my 1080 Ti. Not to mention the "fancy" features that the 2080 has (DLSS & RTX) SIGNIFICANTLY hinder the frame rate in games.

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If you want good frames and RTX/DLSS you need to get a 2080 Ti :p

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:40 PM

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a stock 1080ti has a boost clock of 1582mhz and draws 250w

a FTW3 has a boost clock of 1683mhz and draws something like 350w once you increase the power limit

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So yes, a 1080ti FTW3 is factory overclocked

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and I know someone IRL who has a bunch of bloatware on their PC and runs RAM at JEDEC

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:41 PM

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My mind is not changed :p

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Anecdotal evidence is meaningless

forest token May 11, 2019, 6:41 PM

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https://unrealaussies.com/tech/nvenc-x264-obs/

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:41 PM

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You have zero sources

forest token May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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https://unrealaussies.com/tech/nvenc-x264-quicksync-qsv-vp9-av1/

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I have provided soruces

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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You provided one source

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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you have zero

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1 > 0

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4026vs3918

UserBenchmark: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti vs RTX 2080

Based on 397,089 user benchmarks for the Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti and the RTX 2080, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 613 GPUs.

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There's my source

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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userbenchmark is not a source

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Sure it is

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Its crowd sourced

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which means its not reliable

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Due to every person have different hardware and settings

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:43 PM

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3307439/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-vs-gtx-1080-ti-which-graphics-card-buy.html

PCWorld

Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 vs GTX 1080 Ti: Which graphics card should...

Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2080 and GTX 1080 Ti perform similarly. So which graphics card should you buy? Here's what you need to know.

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Very similar performance

#

Almost equal

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:43 PM

#

I can run my 1080 with just PCIe power (75w) and userbenchmark treats it as if I let it draw 500w

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fun fact

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"almost equal" and "equal" are different

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:43 PM

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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-05-08-rtx-2080-vs-gtx-1080-ti-benchmarks-performance-features-7001

Eurogamer.net

GTX 1080 Ti vs RTX 2080: Which should you buy?

Benchmark performance, value and feature comparison included.

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:44 PM

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wow you googled "2080 vs 1080ti" and pulled the first 3 pages

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without really reading into them

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:44 PM

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No I read them. I've made this argument before lmao

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

at stock, a 2080 beats a 1080ti by a few percent generally

Once overclocked, the gap widens

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

One of my friends made the argument that the RTX 2080 is better because it has DLSS & RTX

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Until I showed him the frame reduction when running those features hahayes

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

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still not the argument

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DLSS is part of the RTX features and is garbage anyways

coarse nimbus May 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

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GWqlabsSigh

steep gust May 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

#

blurry AA = good right

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you know you don't have to worry about edges if everything is blurry Kappa

violet plank May 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

wtf,any 1080ti i have ever seen/owned runs easy af over 2k clock stable

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

Mine does lol

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I can run 2100Hz while still being under 70C

violet plank May 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

atm running a crappy gigabyte at 2.1k

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

*MHz

violet plank May 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

same,under 70

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atm running a crappy gigabyte at 2.1k

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might be the reason why nvidia took them out of the market so fast 😏

steep gust May 11, 2019, 7:08 PM

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uh what

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Pascal lasted like 3 years

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They took them out of production because they were being replaced

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also I know people who's 1080ti can't even do 2000mhz, so again, anecdotes are worthless

warm junco May 11, 2019, 7:57 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWRJFYe845g

#

:l

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:03 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrVZ1Yi6gq4

YouTube

RedGamingTech

EXCLUSIVE | 12 Core Matisse Is 5GHz | Zen 3 4-Way SMT| PS5 Price |...

AMD Matisse Engineerning Sample with 12 cores and 24 threads is floating about motherboard vendors, and according to my sources the clock frequency for this ...

▶ Play video

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12 core 5GHz

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GWcorbinFeelsDabMan

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wtf does 4-way SMT mean

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

Wait someone just now was arguing a 2080 = 1080

#

forsenKek

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God damn its crusading time @steep gust

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meguSmug

#

@prime jasper a under clocked 2080 would ass rape a heavily overclocked 1080 on any time of the day

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

does 4-way SMT/hyperthreading mean 4 threads per core?

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Thonk

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Never heard of that, if I had to guess, it's for 2 chiplets dual controllers

#

That's my guess

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If there was 4 threads per core

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Then in cinebench jeebus

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:15 PM

#

Cine🅱ench: eyes glowing

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Would be a dirty move of AMD but smart

#

Since all that "cores" on dual channel is pretty ooof

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But let's see

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

went to my brother's house last night and he has a delidded 8700K with a copper IHS and it's a mini-ITX build, he got it to 5.2 GHz stable on all cores

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Thonk

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:16 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreading

Simultaneous multithreading

Simultaneous multithreading (SMT) is a technique for improving the overall efficiency of superscalar CPUs with hardware multithreading. SMT permits multiple independent threads of execution to better utilize the resources provided by modern processor architectures.

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I thought they did that on Sun boxes ages ago?

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"Simultaneous multithreading (SMT): Issue multiple instructions from multiple threads in one cycle. The processor must be superscalar to do so."

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:17 PM

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8700k'a early and late models are super easy to OC @latent light

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

his 8700k is used

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WoahTea

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

And?

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

he got it for $250, he got it from someone that said it "overclocks very well"

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

@molten bramble grim wasnt asking about what is smt, talking about 4 way

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It's something pretty new

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"4 way smt"

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Dosnt make sense on the slightest but since am4 is now a mini threadripper

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Who the fuck knows what they did

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:19 PM

#

I thought 4-way would mean 4 threads per core because currently we are on 2-way

#

imagine a 4 core with 16 threads

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:19 PM

#

Huh? No it isn't. It's new for consumer chipsets maybe. Otherwise, it's been existing since the '90s.

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:19 PM

#

GWragMonkaS

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Double threads per core since the 90's on what cpu? @molten bramble

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Never heard or seen of this

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:21 PM

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I want to say IBM was doing it, maybe with the RISC platform, but dunno off hand. The concept is not new though.

#

The technology catching up, perhaps.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Smt is basically the same as hyper threading

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

Hyperthreading essentially multi-homed.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

There hasn't been multiple threads per core

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Ever

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Ok.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:23 PM

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If there is as you say, please any link or anything

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So I know were not being trolled

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

btw, after a little bit of research, 4-way SMT means 4 threads per core

#

they could add up to 40 threads per core if they wanted to, just like GPUs do

#

WoahThink

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I wonder if a CPU exist with this

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

"The Blue Gene/Q Compute chip is an 18 core chip. The 64-bit A2 processor cores are 4-way simultaneously multithreaded, and run at 1.6 GHz. Each processor core has a SIMD Quad-vector double precision floating point unit (IBM QPX). 16 Processor cores are used for computing, and a 17th core for operating system assist functions such as interrupts, asynchronous I/O, MPI pacing and RAS. The 18th core is used as a redundant spare, used to increase manufacturing yield. The spared-out core is shut down in functional operation. The processor cores are linked by a crossbar switch to a 32 MB eDRAM L2 cache, operating at half core speed. The L2 cache is multi-versioned, supporting transactional memory and speculative execution, and has hardware support for atomic operations.[38] L2 cache misses are handled by two built-in DDR3 memory controllers running at 1.33 GHz. The chip also integrates logic for chip-to-chip communications in a 5D torus configuration, with 2GB/s chip-to-chip links. The Blue Gene/Q chip is manufactured on IBM's copper SOI process at 45 nm. It delivers a peak performance of 204.8 GFLOPS at 1.6 GHz, drawing about 55 watts. The chip measures 19×19 mm (359.5 mm²) and comprises 1.47 billion transistors. The chip is mounted on a compute card along with 16 GB DDR3 DRAM (i.e., 1 GB for each user processor core).[39]"

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Ah thank you

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:27 PM

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That project started in 1999.

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It was based on concepts from the early-to-mid '90s, but I don't think anyone had a working concept until then. I could be wrong.

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I am guessing what they've done here, however, is bring something to the consumer market that isn't bleeding edge and hemorrhaging cash from the the consumer's wallet.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

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That chip looks super specific and not really a CPU

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

Holy shit.

📎 440px-LLNL_BGL_Diagram.png

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

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More of a compute stick to assist

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I wonder if it would run Battlefield V? 😄

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Not to be a total dick, but pretty sure this isnt really considered something to run in a os

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At all

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:31 PM

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did you see the mini-ITX LGA 3647 board

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from asrock

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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That wasn't what was posited though. The point is, the concept existed for a long time. They've just figured out a way to bring it to the masses.

latent light May 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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https://wccftech.com/asrock-mini-itx-lga-3647-motherboard-intel-xeon-28-core-cpu-support/

Wccftech

Hassan Mujtaba

ASRock Releases Mini-ITX LGA 3647 Board That Runs 28 Core Intel Xeon

ASRock Rack has released a new M-ITX, small form factor motherboard based on the LGA 3647 socket that can house up to 28 core Intel Xeon CPUs.

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LUL

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Wow.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Yeah I seen it

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@molten bramble that still works more like a GPU if anything

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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I don't disagree.

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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So I should be more specific, there hasn't been multiple threads in a actual CPU

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squid better?

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Or bootable

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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What's the intent of that SFF/mITX board?

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Cpu

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To roast

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forsenKek

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Lot of power for something so small. The thermals...

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Yeah!

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LOL

prime jasper May 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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This board wont even support my CPU at stock

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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cleaned the rig

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the annual desk cleanup

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OMEGALUL

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Got the goo out of the keyboard eh @quaint topaz ?

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😄

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:35 PM

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📎 IMG_20190511_233030.jpg

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:35 PM

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How's the music going?

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Or has it been relegated to a soundboard?

iron canyon May 11, 2019, 8:35 PM

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nice keyboard /jk
nice whatever-board 😛

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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i just mix random sound assets together to make something

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i never publish whatever i make

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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@iron canyon It basically works inline with Ableton.

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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got a lot of free ableton audio packs

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Nice

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Is this what freedom feels like

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Dunno, you get to Miami yet? 😄

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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not knocking over 2 beer cans when i move my mouse

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Fried_Joy

molten bramble May 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Haha

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Okay, back to this paper... 😦

quaint topaz May 11, 2019, 8:40 PM

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f

cold cave May 11, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Wait

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you've got a bottle in your PC

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well two bottles

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FeelsAnalMan

quaint topaz May 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Outside of it on top of a Starbucks collectors mug box

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Holiday card covering it

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FeelsMeowMan

forest token May 12, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I see voicemeter potato

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🥔

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and the bf1 frontline pack

latent light May 12, 2019, 4:46 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxUQcfq9vo

YouTube

Benchmark

NVIDIA Gimping 10 Series? GTX 1050 Ti: Old vs New Drivers

Driver1: 378.66 WHQL Release Date: 2017 Driver2: 430.64 WHQL Release Date: 2019.5.9 GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC CPU: intel core i7-8700K Games: 1-Assass...

▶ Play video

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OMEGALUL

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only tested new games

molten bramble May 12, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Interesting.

random kiln May 12, 2019, 4:54 PM

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1 or 2 fps hardly gimping

latent light May 12, 2019, 5:00 PM

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should of tested csgo, witcher 3, bf1

steep gust May 12, 2019, 5:09 PM

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1-2fps is literally margin of error

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 5:30 PM

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battlefield 5 won't go full screen!! I have tried almost every thing now i cant get the game to stay in full screen! I select it in the menu and when i go back in to the game it goes straight back to windowed border less. Please does any one know how to fix this ?? PC

jade tangle May 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

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verify game?

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I have tried that as well 😦

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Does no one else have 2 screens with this problem ?

molten bramble May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I can't say that I have, sorry.

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Maybe check

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molten bramble May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I've seen FPS chatter and such on there, might be a tidbit about windowing.

supple bane May 12, 2019, 7:25 PM

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wait do you mean that when you launch the game it appears in the top left in a window not in a full screen ?

jade star May 12, 2019, 8:25 PM

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@outer basalt launch the game then hit alt+enter

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when you're in the menu screen

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 8:28 PM

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@jade star That does not work when i am in game playing and i push escape my mouse can go onto my other screen if i use alt + enter my mouse stays on the screen until i go off the menu (in game) and i push escape again to go onto the menu my mouse can again go onto the other screen ?

jade star May 12, 2019, 8:28 PM

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alt+enter forces fullscreen

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Not borderless fullscreen

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aka, toggles fullscreen on/off

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in almost every game

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 8:29 PM

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it does not work man i have tried

jade star May 12, 2019, 8:29 PM

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seems like a driver issue then

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 8:29 PM

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soon as i push escape to see if it is border less my mouse goes on to my other screen

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how do i sort out the driver ?

jade star May 12, 2019, 8:29 PM

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contact ea help as above, and advisor will help you further

outer basalt May 12, 2019, 8:30 PM

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sound will do cheers for the help[ man

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😃

jade star May 12, 2019, 8:30 PM

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maroblep

split storm May 12, 2019, 11:37 PM

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They're together @wicked forum

wicked forum May 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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May be a bum router unable to keep up with the data

steep gust May 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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probably not

wicked forum May 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Bfv is moving a good amount of information with destruction, vehicles and bodies

steep gust May 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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games don't send much data

wicked forum May 12, 2019, 11:39 PM

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More than crusader kings that they don't have issues with ping wise

split storm May 12, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Eeeh..

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Crusader kings is also pretty demanding

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Armies, every character in the game needs to be processed, every country, every action by every nation

wicked forum May 12, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Think that is a load on your CPU

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4x games run a grip of simulation data

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network load would be marginal after the CPU does the work

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And it isn't exactly tit for tat fast input data like a fps

split storm May 12, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Well I have to send this data to his PC

steep gust May 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

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which is minor

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Most of it can be stuck to basic bytes

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"x character at x,y,z"

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"x action"

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repeat

grizzled apex May 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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I could argue rust is pretty demanding

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Even on a 4790k, 16gb DDR3 and 1660 ti, I maybe get 80 FPS on medium

split storm May 13, 2019, 3:00 AM

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That times about a million

ionic frigate May 13, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Rust the survival game? Or a different rust?

jade tangle May 13, 2019, 11:41 AM

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1v1 me rust

ionic frigate May 13, 2019, 12:05 PM

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No

icy mist May 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Which motherboard can you suggest for i7 9700k?

vagrant quartz May 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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what RAM would you guys suggest for Ryzen? gonna build a new rig soon, dw will wait for ryzen 3000 and navi, just reading into it

jade tangle May 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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good ram ;)

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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@icy mist A Z390 board of some flavor most likely, I use a MSI MEG Z390 ACE myself that can accommodate it, but I run an i7-8700K.

jade tangle May 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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3000+ id suggest

icy mist May 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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ty very much

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ycL48d/gigabyte-z390-designare-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z390-designare or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MWL48d/asus-rog-strix-z390-e-gaming-atx-lga1151-motherboard-rog-strix-z390-e-gaming aren't bad picks either

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@icy mist If you're deadset on getting that CPU, make sure you don't skimp on the liquid cooling solution for it. Do it right the first time, they run hot.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 2:53 PM

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i mean, i wouldnt get a water cooler for it imo

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get a nice cooler

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more affordable and the performance gain is minor

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I've got an h80iv2 currently on mine, and under load it gets up there, so I'm going to have to pick up another AIO.

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That's with an open case as well.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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my cpu under load reaches 60 at most on a intel stock OMEGALUL

icy mist May 13, 2019, 2:55 PM

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@molten bramble I was going to buy hyper 212 evo. Im going to edit some 1080p video

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I use my build for half the time.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 2:56 PM

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What gpu do you suggest? I'm thinking to postpone gpu for while and use cpu only

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Good question, I just picked up a new 1660Ti myself, runs great. However, I might take that back for a RTX 2070.

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I'm on the fence on that.

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check out pcpartpicker, there are some pretty great builds on there, most using the same family of GPUs.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 2:58 PM

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does 1660 support hardware acceleration in premiere pro?

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:01 PM

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You're referring to NVENC/HEVC? That's been supported since the 1050Ti.

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Specifically, 1660Ti will handle H.264 / H.265.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I don't exactly know but I see it in forun discussion.

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they were mentioning cuda

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also

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:05 PM

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CUDA is just a platform/API for developers at the software layer which expedites instructions/usage of the GPU. I wouldn't worry about that, you're not going to have to deal with that as it's already baked in for your particular applicaton.

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It's been raining here for four straight days, all variants of it. Not sure where all this came from, but the east coast is getting swamped.

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:08 PM

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i live in az and its been pretty rainy here too

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especially odd for this time of year for us

jade tangle May 13, 2019, 3:09 PM

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excuse me but i doubt that rain is a technology 🤓

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:09 PM

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it is if you believe in the government made a weather machine to control the environment

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:09 PM

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It's the original liquid cooling technology.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:10 PM

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@molten bramble thank you very much for information

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yeah bud, be sure to check out that site and see what other folks are doing with their builds. You'll start to notice trends, might save a buck or two.

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Does MSI Dragon Center seem laggy to anyone else since the last update when diving into profiles?

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Build is like this
Intel Core i7 9700K 1151P
Asus Prime Z370-P Intel Z370 2133MHz DDR4 LGA1151 USB 3.0 ATX
Hyper 212 EVO for cooling ( I will look at liquid cooling setups too)
VENGEANCE® LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C16 Memory Kit
Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB SSD, NVMe M.2
AEROCOOL AE-CYLN-750 Cylon RGB 750W 80+ Bronze Case

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:29 PM

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dont get that ssd unless you absolutely need it for something work related

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using that as a consumer or gaming wont benefit you much at all, but it costs a hell of a lot more

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:31 PM

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For video editing?

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:31 PM

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im sure it will help there, but i doubt its gonna be a dramatic difference

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970 is just so effin expensive

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Is there huge differecen between normal ssd and nvme for video editing?

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:32 PM

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i dont video edit or know anything about it

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so i really cant say, but ssd is just save and load times

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:33 PM

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nvme benefits only with loads of small files

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:33 PM

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if editing is long on those ssds will help, but the difference on most tasks between sata and nvme ssd isnt amazing

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I have the 970 EVO + NVMe drive @ 500Gb and it was a night and day difference with Adobe's suite.

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:34 PM

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windows and games benefit like zero on a nvme,but if you wanna save space,it's a good option imo

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:34 PM

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@molten bramble Do you know ıf normal ssd will be enough? I'm on low budget and due to usd price everything is too expensive

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:35 PM

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going to ssd from hdd is gonna truly be a huge difference

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:35 PM

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I used a normal SATA SSD for a long time before this. You'll be fine. I ran the Samsung 860 Evo.

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They're as cheap as $70 atm

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:36 PM

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i still got a samsung 830 evo running 🐏

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:36 PM

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If you can find a Pro version, even better.

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:36 PM

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as a dump drive,that thing just won't die

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:36 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-512GB-V-NAND-Solid-MZ-76P512BW/dp/B07836C6YV

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Honestly, for $139 though for the pro version, you could buy the 970 EVO +.

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:38 PM

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as a private user there isn't really a reason to use the pro version

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Pro version is expensive than the one I want to buy

jade tangle May 13, 2019, 3:38 PM

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m2 is 5x faster than a ssd why would you get one if you can?

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wouldnt*

violet plank May 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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with normal programs it isn't faster

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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IF buy m2 I can't buy normal 2tb hdd for now also I have to cut bugget from graphic card

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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@icy mist You need to look at the pins above, as this discussion can become circular.

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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we talking m.2?

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:39 PM

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https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/422598689928773632/569554353506222097

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:40 PM

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m.2 isnt faster, its a form factor that supports nvme, which is faster

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you can get a sata m.2 drive that is the same exact speeds as a 2.5m ssd drive

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@icy mist https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/422598689928773632/569554353506222097

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$69.99 f/ 250Gb!

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S1T0B/dp/B07MG119KG?th=1

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@molten bramble ok ty. My budget is 1700 usd.

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Holy shit

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Dude, I spent like right under a grand on my machine.

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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you can get a crucial bx500 250gb ssd for 25 bucks though

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Not including the monitors.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:43 PM

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@molten bramble yes. I bought the monitor. LG 29 inch ultrawide monitor

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:43 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S1T0B/dp/B07M7Q21N7?th=1 I paid $179 for mine I recall, could have waited a month and a half and saved.

Amazon.com: Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 500GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 In...

Amazon.com: Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 500GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V7S500B/AM): Computers & Accessories

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I just realized my mb will do max 128Gb memory... thonk 😄

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Looks like I'll be buying some 32Gb sticks in the future.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Nice. Price of ram going up too. I had to play Battlefield V with 8 GB stick for 3 month before I could buy one.

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:49 PM

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ram prices are going down

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Yeah, I'm waiting for some bottoming.

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Does Corsair Vengeance not come in 32Gb sticks? Interesting.

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Seems like they'll go max 64Gb across 4x16Gb sticks.

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Same with G.Skill it seems.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Well for me, price of everything going up. I live in Turkey now 1 USD is equal to 6 turkish lira. I bought GTX1070 1 year ago now its 1.5x expensive than the price I bought.

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 3:54 PM

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1070 should be going up in prices everywhere because its a last gen gpu that should be running out of stock and is replaces by the 1660(ti) and 2060

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Even Crucial doesn't offer anything more that 16Gb dimms. Now I need to see if anything has actually put 128Gb of anything into this mb.

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@icy mist https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/ there are some solid builds in there, one of those with your CPU.

icy mist May 13, 2019, 3:58 PM

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@molten bramble ty very much. I will take look at them.

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 3:58 PM

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"MSI is claiming their Z390s can now handle 32gb JEDEC DDR4 Modules on all their boards. Claim you can have up to 128GB of Ram on the ACE. I have yet to see a bios yet though. https://www.msi.com/news/detail/f668...78e24829cddba9"

MSI Global

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In all honesty, I'm just going to up this to 64Gb.

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I am curious though about the 128Gb debacle.

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https://gnd-tech.com/2019/01/all-msi-z390-motherboards-ready-for-the-latest-jedec-standard-of-ddr4-32gb-memory/ They were talking about it in January, but I am guessing it's just not there in the manufacturing lane at the moment.

GND-Tech

strudinox

All MSI Z390 Motherboards Ready for the latest JEDEC Standard of D...

MSI has just announced that they will be the first major motherboard vendor to fully support the latest JEDEC standard memory for 32GB memory modules for its current MSI Z390 motherboard lineup.

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https://gnd-tech.com/2018/10/core-9th-gen-desktop-processors-to-support-128gb-ddr4/

GND-Tech

strudinox

Core 9th Gen Desktop Processors to Support 128GB DDR4 – GND-Tech

Intel has confirmed the new 9th-gen desktop processors due later this year will fully support a maximum of 128GB of DDR4 based on recently leaked information.

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"Now that we’re seeing high density modules in the 32GB flavor emerging from companies like Corsair, G.Skill, and Kingston, there is no wonder Intel has upped the official support capacity for the 9th-gen processors to 128GB." Umm.. where? lol I just went to their sites.

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Only Kingston seems to have a 128Gb kit.

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and I believe that's still 8x16Gb

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Not 4x32Gb

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Same goes for Corsair

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=128gb+4+x+32gb+2666mhz+ddr4&i=computers&rh=n%3A172500%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A16955287011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A9559993011&dc&crid=1H16OWFC4VC4P&qid=1557765599&rnid=673240011&sprefix=128Gb+(4+x+32Gb)%2Celectronics%2C108&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_five_browse-bin_1

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That all appears to be for iMacs.

latent light May 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Yeah that only works for iMacs and certain laptops

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 4:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?N=100007952 600418367 601190338&IsNodeId=1&Submit=ENE Looks to be the same situation.

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Though that's more server than much else.

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So either 128Gb (4x32Gb) is on a delayed launch, or it was a marketing pipedream... thonk

latent light May 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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📎 20190513_122801.jpg

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WiFi adapter was overheating so I put it in case and taped it in front of the intake fan

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OMEGALUL

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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now that some quality redneck engineering

latent light May 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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need new wifi adapter

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FeelsMeowMan

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I like this one because it doesn't use software or an install wizard and it works instantly when you plug it into any computer

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Arent most usb adapters just plug and play?

latent light May 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Netgear ones aren't

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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or just get a pci-e card and unlock maximum power

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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wired is maximum power

latent light May 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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family doesn't want a ethernet cable running across the hallway

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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thats why you buy those wall clips

grizzled apex May 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Or just get landline to Ethernet

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Or better yet. Go power line

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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or get a long wire with wall clips

grizzled apex May 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Could risk connection becoming worse

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If it bends too much

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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if the wire bends?

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never heard of that one

supple bane May 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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could someone explain to me what the hell a power line is in the context of networking ?

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i have heard of the sacred power line adapter before but i have not a clue what it is

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444

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those things. allow you to plug an eithernet into an adapter that plugs right in and connects to your wifi

supple bane May 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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so there still isnt a wired connection between the router and the pc ?

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it goes from wifi to ethernet ?

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:48 PM

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exactly

supple bane May 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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that sounds.. dumb..

prime jasper May 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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works better than usb adapters and some devices have no usb so you have no other options anyway

supple bane May 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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ooohhh

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just watched a vid on it

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that makes so much more sense hahah

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:51 PM

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@molten bramble The rated limit is almost never the limit

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I know people running 96GB on 8th gen

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Hm?

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:51 PM

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8th gen is rated to 64GB

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9900k has the strongest IMC on the market

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It will have zero issues with 128GB

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:52 PM

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I don't recall saying it would?

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What did I miss here?

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:53 PM

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You are making it sound like its not possible

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9th gen is not the first generation to support over 64GB

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I did nothing of the sort. I said that memory manufacturers don't have 128Gb (4x32Gb) kits for the 4-slot Z390 board.

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I went to four manufacturer sites and two reseller sites. Noone is offering them.

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And the only ones I did find were for servers and for iMacs.

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:54 PM

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That because 32GB non ECC RAM sticks don't exist

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Outside of one proprietary garbage by Asus

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:56 PM

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That's what I am saying, but as early as Oct 2018, reviewers (based on marketing by companies like MSI) were touting such kits already in the field. Here we are in May 2019, still don't exist. So I have a MSI MEG Z390 ACE capable of handling 128Gb, but the max that can be found on the market is 64Gb kits.

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Its not really on the board to run 128GB

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:57 PM

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So, for these consumer boards, it's either delayed or just not gonna happen.

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4x32Gb

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:58 PM

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That page is about how it will support 8x2048 standard

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I see a bunch of 8x16Gb kits though

steep gust May 13, 2019, 7:59 PM

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yeah because 32GB sticks don't exist outside of one proprietary PCB for non ecc

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You can buy 32GB sticks that are ECC but Intel is Intel

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 8:00 PM

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exactly

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So, in essence, whether it supports the JEDEC standard or not at this point, to the consumer, is inconsequential and potentially marketing fluff... because there is just nothing to buy DDR4-wise that will accommodate someone doing that.

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That and a price point for over $1K in memory alone is probably going to keep that out of mainstream for most people anyways.

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Its entirely marketing fluff

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The IMC will run not enjoy running 4x32

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I don't disagree

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Reminds me of ASUS's marketing for LGA775 boards like the P5K-E that were touting support for DDR3/performance, but only supported DDR2.

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Misleading at best.

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In any case, for me, 64Gb on this build is plenty.

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Threadripper is cheap

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if you really need a lot

latent light May 13, 2019, 8:26 PM

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tfw no 3rd gen threadripper coming

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FeelsMeowMan

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:37 PM

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yet.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:39 PM

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i knew that i had an account for a CAD program through my school that will last me for another 3 years, but i didnt realise that said program would have cost 1500 pound for that time if i purchased it my self

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Chag

storm osprey May 13, 2019, 8:41 PM

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cad is stupidly overpriced

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they are trying to make it a cloud service too

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:41 PM

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cad is a priceless tool tho

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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CAD for business use is fine for its price

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:46 PM

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but i mean someone like me who is kinda thinking of a career in it, its would be impossible to get practise without being at schhol

wheat copper May 13, 2019, 8:46 PM

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can i post the name of a website with some pretty cool products?

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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is it legal?

wheat copper May 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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its just gaming stuff

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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If its promoting something not directly related to tech

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it doesn't belong here

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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i dont think that it isnt allowed just maybe ask in general if it isnt tech

wheat copper May 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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yeah they have pc stuff

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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well then

wheat copper May 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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so idk how its not related to tech

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they have meeces and storage. and headsets. i believe shroud iss apart of it as theres a huge video of him being featured

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:52 PM

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That sounds more promotional

wheat copper May 13, 2019, 8:53 PM

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i personally dont have affiliations with it. maybe i should dm you the site so you can see for yourself? dont want to break any rules so ill let you decide

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nvm mind. sorry for clogging the caht. im just stupid. haHAA

latent light May 13, 2019, 8:55 PM

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12 core Zen 2 CPU spotted running at 4.55 GHz all cores

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haHAA

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:56 PM

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damn

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im sort of getting my head around the marketing of amd now heh

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but still confused by it a little

latent light May 13, 2019, 8:56 PM

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apparently MSI, Biostar and Gigabyte got the 16 core and 12 core Zen 2 samples

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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just to confirm, zen 2 is the generation of chips that are coming out later this year right ?

latent light May 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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well they get announced in 2 weeks

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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oh

latent light May 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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and come out in either June or July

supple bane May 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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well at least i got something right for once heh

steep gust May 13, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Engineering samples are worthless

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Remember the 9900k that was doing 5.3ghz on air?

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I remember

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I thought that was just a single core oc though

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I don't think so

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but Chinese engineering samples that can't be verified are not to be trusted

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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noctua D15 could do overclocking better than a 360mm rad

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haHAA

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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uh

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not unless you have shit fans

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Also AIOs above 280mm have pump issues

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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oof

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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nowhere near enough flow

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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personally I think that an air will be better in most cases

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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240mm or 280mm optimal

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I prefer the looks of water

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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also, you probably need a custom pump for 360mm

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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or just have companies put a bigger pump into AIOs

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not hard

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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lol

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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if you would go to the effort of having a custom pump it isn’t really an aio anymore, just a water cooling loop

steep gust May 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Also not possible with AIOs

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cus its not really all in one then

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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would make a cool yt experiment, take an aio, cut a pipe and slap a pump on there and see what happens

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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@supple bane Autodesk / 3DS or?

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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By the way, Biostar showed off their X570 motherboard

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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fusion 360

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I have that as well.

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It's good for components and what not, not as much for artsy modeling.

latent light May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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https://www.techspot.com/news/80055-biostar-leaks-flagship-am4-x570-motherboard-details.html

TechSpot

Biostar leaks flagship AM4 X570 motherboard details

AMD is expected to announce its much anticipated Ryzen 3000 series of processors at Computex 2019. Along with that, we also expect to hear about its new flagship chipset, the rumored X570 platform. However, thanks to Biostar, we can get…

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LUL

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https://www.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2019/05/2019-05-13-image-6.png

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I’m still only dabbling my toes in the animation and like the making bearings move for example, something i want to learn

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Yeah

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Fusion 360 is good to start with, the UI is very forgiving a well.

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Comparative to it's big brother 3DS, it's very easy to use.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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one thing I hate about it, or I just haven’t figured it out, THERE ISNT A FREE CAM, i want to be able to go into a mode and left click like moves me around the “world” so to speak, not just to rotate the camera around a pivot

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Hmm, there is a freewheeling rotation mechanism across the plane(s), but I am not sure about a freestyle cam.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Here’s a situation which I’m trying to get at, I have a flat wall, on that plane I want to make a very small but precise box that extrudes off it, so I’m thinking “right let’s zoom in to hell and back” but it zooms into the wrong area of the plane and I can’t see the area I want to place my other box, and it just feels like I’m in mission impossible trying to get my camera in the right place,

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Hmm, I think the only way to do that is sketch inside the wall.

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You'd select your placement and then set the sketch point. The camera should focus there

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:15 PM

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hmm, I’m sure there is a simple way around it that I haven’t figured out yet,

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I do need to do some research on the moving parts side as that would open way more opportunities

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I learned how to use the tool from this series: https://academy.autodesk.com/course/126271/introduction-3d-modeling?reload=1

Design Academy

Introduction to 3D Modeling

Good designers and engineers know how to explore and iterate their designs. Thankfully, computer aided design (CAD) allows you to do just that—explore and iterate your design—until the model suits your needs. However, this iteration process isn’t as easy as it sounds. I...

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It's free and informative. Throw it on one screen and follow along on the other.

supple bane May 13, 2019, 9:19 PM

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ye I learned the basics the same way I found a bunch of powerpoints that showed you how to make really simple things but explaining all the tools you would need as it went along, the first thing I did was a key ring, so it taught me extruding and text, also some other sketch tool that I forget the name of heh

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I don’t look at the names now I just know where all the things are off by heart heh

molten bramble May 13, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Nice