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prime jasper
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a 6600k is the minimum spec for this game

zinc cosmos
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^

jade tangle
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I cant use Visual Studio anymore because it needs a License now? Do I need to use Code now If I dont want to spend money? I think they changed that with the 2019 version.

minor turret
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there are a lot of people with 2133 ram on 6xxx gen that cry that they get 30-50 fps

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and call bf unoptimized

zinc cosmos
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I searched around and I see that the 6600k only supports up to 2133 DDR4 memory

minor turret
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not true

prime jasper
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yeah a 9400f would smash it regardless

minor turret
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SPD is 2133

prime jasper
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its not a ram issue, the cpu is just not enough for the game

minor turret
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its what they guarantee but xmp profiles go a lot higher

jade tangle
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i also bought a b mobo with my 6700k so youre not the only one

zinc cosmos
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so the motherboard upgrade is set in stone because that too only supports 2133,same as the CPU which I am still taking suggestions for

jade tangle
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it has been 4 years

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yeah but do you really want to upgrade a 6th gen mobo ?

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id rather buy a whole new cpu

prime jasper
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the chipset is dead so yes you have to upgrade the mobo/ram too

minor turret
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theres still a used market and z170 is so little attractive that there might be some deals

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especially if you want to wait for next gen CPUs

prime jasper
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whats the top like a 7700k on there? good luck finding a used deal that isnt more than say a 9400f/2600x

minor turret
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9400f is literally 8400 with a tiny clock boost

zinc cosmos
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this is the motherboard I want to upgrade/change too->GIGABYTE AORUS B360M PRO

minor turret
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doesnt fit with your current cpu

zinc cosmos
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yeah

prime jasper
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b360 doesnt support overclocking just fyi

zinc cosmos
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that is why i want to change the CPU too

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i dont want to play with OC anyway

minor turret
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i would much rather go AMD than intel for current gen unless splurging for 9700k/9900k

zinc cosmos
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i was thinking about AMD too,

prime jasper
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b450/2600x is a tasty combo

minor turret
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2600x has more threads, could clock higher, and is not a dead socket for future upgrades

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intel changes after socket is reused twice

jade tangle
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wait wasnt there the rumour that am4 isnt used for the next gen ryzen?

minor turret
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am4 is literally guaranteed to 2020

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so ryzen 3xxx and 4xxx is apparantly on AM4

prime jasper
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zen2 is coming out q3 this year, then probably another year for zen2+

minor turret
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5xxx could be a change

warm junco
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@prime jasper that's my combo

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Pretty gr8

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235 euros

zinc cosmos
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the 2600x looks tasty

prime jasper
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oh it is, this game loves all dem threads especially on dx12

minor turret
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b450 tomahawk would fit well with a 2600x though uncertain whether it will be able to run 3xxx OCd

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at least 8 core and up

warm junco
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@prime jasper got the regular 2600 tho

prime jasper
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depends on the TDP @minor turret

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@warm junco thats still fine, I have the 2700x myself but regardless I'll probably upgrade next year to 4th gen

minor turret
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yes but higher power draw is right to assume unless thinking of upgrading to another 6 core

zinc cosmos
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is a 2600x cpu and a 1060 6gb a good pair?will they bottleneck each other?

minor turret
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and even then higher power draw is likely if rumoured 4.6-5.1 ghz clocks are to be believed

prime jasper
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5.1 is a bit optimistic unless they pull another 9590 and crank the TDP lol

minor turret
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its not all core on stock

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its a single core boost from rumours

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and on top end bin cpu

prime jasper
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eh, rumors will be revealed to be true or false soon enough. @zinc cosmos decent pairing, the 2600x can certainly keep up with better GPU's

minor turret
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depends on whether 60 or 144 fps gaming

prime jasper
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that too, above 1080p is more GPU dependant

minor turret
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for 1080p 144 fps 2600(x) is not enough

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8700k/8086k/9700k or better required for 144 fps 1080p

prime jasper
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maybe a 9600k, especially with OC

zinc cosmos
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144fps is nice but I am not to bothered by it,as long as it's above 60/70 i am happy

minor turret
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6c6t 🤢

supple bane
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you havent seen my reality

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4c4t

prime jasper
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RIP in peace

minor turret
supple bane
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its good enough for me

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and gets me 60fps in most cases

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i would still like an upgrade tho

minor turret
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you can get decent average fps but then there are the dips during firefight and random physics shit

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no ty

zinc cosmos
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F

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I am looking at AMD ryzen cpu's and they look tasty but unfortunately I am still stuck with this internet mentality that AMD is bad and stuff which I want to get rid off

prime jasper
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leftover from the bulldozer days lol

jade tangle
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i look forward to that 3850x

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16 cores

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oof

zinc cosmos
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ok,i am looking at the 2600x,lets say I get it,what would be a good cooler for it?i dont want liquid cooling

prime jasper
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it comes with one

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works quite well for stock clocks

zinc cosmos
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oh yeah,i just looked at the product page

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stock cooler included

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:))

jade tangle
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doesnt it have rgb too?

zinc cosmos
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oh no

jade tangle
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oh yeahhh

zinc cosmos
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i hope it does

prime jasper
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Im not sure if it does, easy to look up though

zinc cosmos
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Kappa

prime jasper
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the one that comes with the 2700x is an rgb cooler

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I dont think the smaller coolers with the 2600x do though

zinc cosmos
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omg it does

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it's a red ring

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oh no it doens t

storm osprey
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pretty sure all wraith coolers are rgb

zinc cosmos
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nah

storm osprey
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nvm, its certain ones

zinc cosmos
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same page now lul

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i am on

storm osprey
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thats what it says from 2600x page on amazon

zinc cosmos
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ok,i think i am gonna go with a AMD CPU,i am thinking about the 2600x or the ryzen 7 1700 WoahThink

supple bane
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is it possible to overclock on a amd stocky ?

storm osprey
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yea

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supposed around 4.0ghz can get done on stock coolers

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i think 3.8 is common

zinc cosmos
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is the 1060 6gb and 2600x a good combo?

storm osprey
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for

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?

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1080p 60fps at med/high settings yea

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id check the price differences for 2600 vs 2600x and difference of 1060 vs 580/1660

zinc cosmos
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yeah,1080p med high,above 60

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i already have the 1060 btw

storm osprey
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gotcha

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yea 2600x will be good, but unless its close to 2600 price, i would get the 2600

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looks like a 5 fps increase for 2600x when OC

finite torrent
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Hey @storm osprey

storm osprey
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ayo boi

hybrid sentinel
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I just got a 2080 recently (in fact I got the deal where you get BF5 bundled with the card). The game gets decent frames on ultra settings (about 100), but I'm also getting a weird hitching that seems unrelated to frames... Is that more likely to be a cpu problem?

prime jasper
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what cpu are you using? how much RAM?

hybrid sentinel
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16gb ram

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I have an i7 from a couple years ago

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im trying to look up the model

storm osprey
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did you try dx 11 and dx 12?

prime jasper
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^

hybrid sentinel
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not yet. I can give that a try today

prime jasper
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also turn off vsync and make sure dxr is off if you try dx12

hybrid sentinel
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what's the default?

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dx12?

prime jasper
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dx11, at least it was for me

hybrid sentinel
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k

prime jasper
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go into nvidia control panel and make sure your card is set to run your max refresh rate and turn g sync on if applicable

grizzled apex
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@hybrid sentinel do you know the model? The older I7s are getting a small bottleneck on the game. It needs at least 6 cores to run stably

hot carbon
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my GPU is used in other games only BF5 does that

grizzled apex
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What are your desktop power settings?

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Are they set to balanced, power saving or max performance?

hot carbon
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on sec

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one

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normal

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should i put performance and try ?

grizzled apex
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If you set to performance it should deviled more power to the motherboard and should result in better performance

hot carbon
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trying in perf now

grizzled apex
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In balanced, the power supply will only supply enough power to have basic functions working without using much power

hot carbon
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i just found out that my RTX where in OC mode

grizzled apex
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Performance gets rid of the gap and increase the power

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😛

hot carbon
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still the same

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2%

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@grizzled apex

grizzled apex
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Hm,

hot carbon
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...

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just find out disabling direct X 12
fix it
last update fucked it up ig

grizzled apex
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Wait, you were using DX12?

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Probably should have told you that was a possibility. DX12 is meant for newer hardware

hot carbon
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got a 2070

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rtx

rancid tendon
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my game hasn't yet fully installed

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will it improve on fps once it does?

lofty light
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Possibly

molten bramble
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I am sort of on the fence as to whether I want to keep this 1660Ti or return it pick up a 2070/2080 now that the FPS bug has bitten me. LUL

latent light
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Damn

warm junco
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h0t

prime jasper
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zen 4 already? rumor mill getting an early ass start

fiery ferry
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Guess I decided on an i3 8100 to upgrade from my i3 2100

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It seems awesome for a budget

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Now I need a budget motherboard to go with it too

prime jasper
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currently 135 on newegg...not a great deal comparatively

fiery ferry
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I live in Egypt

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It's the cheapest I could find

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for 2300 egp

prime jasper
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what are ryzen 2600 and i5 9400f going for?

fiery ferry
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2600 to 2700 for ryzen 2600

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3700 to 3750 egp for i5

prime jasper
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ouch

fiery ferry
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And they're both from shops I have no access too

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Or rather far

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The i3 8100 is very nice for me as I still have to buy another budget motherboard

prime jasper
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ordering online isnt an option?

fiery ferry
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nope

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Ordering online woud require shipping

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and shipping costs 200+ dollars

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😄

prime jasper
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wow

fiery ferry
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depending on the items

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the i3 8100 has little stutters on dx12 bf5 multiplayer on ultra settings

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I don't intend to play like that

prime jasper
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as far as amd/intel goes compare the price of the b450 to the intel b360 boards. you should be using dx11 on a quad core anyway

fiery ferry
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with some tweaking there shan't be stutters hopefully

prime jasper
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dx12 is better on at least 6 cores

fiery ferry
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I don't see any difference between dx 12 and 11

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so grpahics don't really matter fo rme that much

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I just need no stutters

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bf1 multiplayer on an i3 2100 is messed up

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stutters on 720p lowest settings

prime jasper
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oh its not a graphical difference no, just how the hardware is utilized which affects framerates

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but yeah a dual core isnt gonna run great on much of anything

fiery ferry
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Nah the i3 2100 is running greatly

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just not on online game slife bf

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and GTA 5

prime jasper
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exactly. the 8100 will be a nice improvement. maybe someone is getting rid of their mobo/cpu nearby and you could find a nice deal too

fiery ferry
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also

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Most of the b360's cost from 2100 to 2500

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except mortar and bazooka msi from 1800-1900

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There's an msi h310m pro vdh for 1200

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which once

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one*

prime jasper
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Im guessing the cheaper boards are micro ATX vs standard ATX for the higher price

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really depends more on your case and how many fan headers and SATA ports you need

fiery ferry
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2 HDDs, 1 GTX 1050 MSI gaming X, 2 fans, 1 rear out and 1 side intake. 1 PSU and 8gb (2 stick of 4 gb)

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and that's pretty much it

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I just need to change the i3 2100 and the motherboard

prime jasper
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oh I just found this, I forgot h310 is also a different board than b360

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you'll need new RAM too

fiery ferry
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why would I need new ram o_O

prime jasper
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because the new processor/board will require DDR4

fiery ferry
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oh mine's ddr3

prime jasper
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yup

fiery ferry
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dangit

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now it'll cost even more

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ffs

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rams are way too expensive here

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for 2 sticks of kingston valueram, it'll be 1000 egp

prime jasper
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thats unfortunate, maybe someone is selling something locally that is used but more powerful than what you have then. have to hunt around for those deals sometimes

fiery ferry
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I could just end all this misery

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if I fin a damn i7 3770

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I found many, but they're so far away and used

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I7 377 for 2500 egp

prime jasper
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all are used yes, but seems they should at least be cheaper than a new 8100 lol

fiery ferry
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not here

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Is this legit?

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650 egp

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that's cheap af

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could even buy it right now and contact him

prime jasper
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depending on your board, you MIGHT be able to put a Xeon processor in it from a decommissioned server which could be plenty cheap

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just make sure your board is compatible with that 3770, cant read a damn word on that page lol

fiery ferry
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I have an h61m s2p

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gigabyte

prime jasper
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keep an eye out for those too

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but a 3770 is almost the best you can put in there too

fiery ferry
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It's h61m-s2p rev2.0 so yes I just searched and found it supports 3770

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Yes, I've always wanted ot buy for years

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something doesn't make sense

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it tells me it only supports from 1-4 cores

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yet it says i7 3770 is supported

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????

prime jasper
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well a 3770 is quad core so yes?

fiery ferry
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I thought it was 8 cores

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o-o

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Wait no nvm

prime jasper
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4 cores 8 threads

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lol

fiery ferry
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yes

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lol

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it's just when I was viewing benchmarksof it

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there were way mroe than 4 cores displayed CPU 1 to like 10 or something

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It has hyperthreading so that means as if it's running 8 cores right?

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Because my i3 2100 displays 4 CPUs working during benchmarks even though it hs 2 cores

prime jasper
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because its 2 core 4 threads

grizzled apex
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^

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The processor has two cores but on the machine each core has 2 virtual cores per physical core meaning 4 virtual cores

supple bane
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just a question, streaming is basically impossible for me, but what is it that is needed more to stream, i mean like gpu or cpu?

prime jasper
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well if you have an nvidia card then nvenc makes it easier

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also depends on what resolution you plan on streaming out

supple bane
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720p

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30fps

prime jasper
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it will tax the gpu certainly, but the CPU is also important so really you need a balance especially with a game like this. I have a 2700x and an rtx2080 and streaming at 720p/30 drops my fps about 20 ish

supple bane
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yeeeeeee

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that throws that idea out the window

prime jasper
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since I play at 1440 my gpu is already loaded up lol

supple bane
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i think i still need an upgrade tho, idk when but im pretty sure that 4 cores wont be enough for the next bf game that comes out

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4 cores is only just about enough now

prime jasper
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I remember the days when a dual core with 4gb RAM was able to max out anything sippppp

supple bane
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or i may wait for the next gen of amd to release and see what happens with that

prime jasper
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missing something?

supple bane
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eh?

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you mean in that list ?

prime jasper
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yes

supple bane
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nope

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not as far as im aware

prime jasper
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RAM lol

supple bane
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ye my ram works

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with that mobo

prime jasper
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oh, thought you still had ddr3

supple bane
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you underestimate my power

prime jasper
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forgive me, Lord Palpatine

supple bane
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you are forgiven

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heheh

storm osprey
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i think for streaming the cpu is more important

supple bane
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man, i cant decide if i should upgrade to those specs i sent earlier

storm osprey
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dont upgrade anything till amd plays its cards

supple bane
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pros:
i need it, i cant even screen share on discord, and my fps is super low on bf v and ark, on bfv its low enough that if i move my mouse fast i can see the stutter
cons:
not like i HAVE to stream and the fps is just above the point where i cant play, its not like huge frame drops or anything

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also yes, i want to see what the next gen of cpu's look like

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im going to go do some research on the nest gen of amd, as i know nothing apart from that it is coming

storm osprey
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amd is already better for streaming dollar for dollar

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with zen 2 its i expect them to only increase that lead, while also closing the gap on pure gaming fps vs intel

supple bane
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i just need to know the price hehe

storm osprey
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i doubt we will see amd match intel with stock numbers, but amd cpus coming unlocked you probably can

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i mean, expect the 3600 to be around 200 bucks

supple bane
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because if it is keeping up with the 9900k no doubt about it its going to be wayy too expensive for me

storm osprey
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idk if the 3600 will keep up with a 9900k

little comet
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Someone making star wars references?

supple bane
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i think im getting confused or you mis understood me heh

storm osprey
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me?

supple bane
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ye

storm osprey
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probably

supple bane
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i just watched the ces 2019 and they showed that 3rd gen ryzen dont know which one was out performing the 9900k

storm osprey
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oh yea we dont know either

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err

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wait

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maybe it was the 3600

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i think they said the c/t count

supple bane
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no it was a cinebench test

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wait ill find the vid

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^

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that

storm osprey
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yea i remember the test

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i just dont remember what cpu info they gave

supple bane
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yup, thats what im saying, unless amd has really worked magic, no cpu performing the same as a 9900k is going to be affordable for me

storm osprey
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well for workloads amd is usually the better option and cheaper

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in the video after the benchmark she shows the cpu and says its 8c16t

supple bane
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i would have expected more cores tbh

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i missed that part

storm osprey
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so thats either ryzen 7 or threadripper

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unless there is a core count bump up and its actually a ryzen 5

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(doubt)

latent light
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lol AMD said they're never releasing an 8 core threadripper again

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the 1900X wasn't good

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also, core increase is likely because of the 8-core chiplet design

supple bane
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intel is going to have to step up their game, according to this then are going to own the high end work station and the gaming/ price to performance market

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with 3rd gen being the high end and 2600(x) etc. being price to performance

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i cant believe they got 64 threads in the next threadripper

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if im being honest i havent been listening to any of the amd stuff going on. but now i have looked at it im kinda amazed

vale current
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Anyone having a problem with bf ? My menu screen appeared to stuck at 30 fps

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I cant fix it

grizzled apex
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And considering you can build a Rysen 5 pc for under 600$, that pretty good

vale current
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I tried overwatch and its 150~ fps like other days

grizzled apex
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Just shove a 1660 ti in there and a good hard drive your good

steep gust
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@supple bane next threadripper has yet to be announced

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so we don't know if it will use the Rome EYPC CPUs but rebranded

prime jasper
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guys i am getting fps drops at bf1

supple bane
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wait

prime jasper
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i have ryzen 2600 and rx 590 sapphire nitro 8gb ram

supple bane
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well what is the threadripper that has 64 cores that ltt did a vid on ?

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was that last gen?

prime jasper
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i get fps drops even at high

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at multi*

supple bane
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try changing from dx 11 to dx 12 or vice Versa

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and when you say FPS drop. What is the average and then what does it drop to?

steep gust
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The 2990WX?

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That was 32c 64t

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and had many fucking issues

prime jasper
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@supple bane i play with v-sync

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and it is stable at 60

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but i get drops that i don't know why

storm osprey
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ew dont use vsync

prime jasper
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does it cause drop

storm osprey
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no

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but it causes input lag

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which is horrible for reacting and accuracy

prime jasper
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Even 580 doesn't get drops i have 590 and i get drop to 50 55 fps

storm osprey
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settings?

prime jasper
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@supple bane it wasnt out performing the 9900k, the one your referring to is also extremely high lantency and going to be identical as zen+ in gaming.

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Zen 2 is a dud

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Unfortunately

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based on rumors? that seems like a stretch

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Based on actual benchmarks we seen

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4.4ghz boost with 91ns lantency

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Almost as bad as threadripper

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But in workloads its alright

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But games.... it's really rough

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Also almost the same architecture

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Just 7nm

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if thats true the leaked intel roadmaps must have some credence too, looks like 14nm isnt going anywhere anytime soon

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Yee 10nm is only coming out on laptops, looks like 10nm desktop isnt this year

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Good for me tho

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Good for AMD aswell

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Keeps them somewhat relevant

storm osprey
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but the link shows the new amd processor outperforming the 9900k, just not in gaming

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"no it was a cinebench test"

prime jasper
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It's not out performing on anything

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The 9900k still beats it

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Even the video shows it

latent light
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no one here knows anything about zen 2

storm osprey
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amd is on the right side...

prime jasper
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I do

latent light
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nope

storm osprey
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in cinebench the amd cpu was barely faster

prime jasper
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Yeah lol, we legit seen actual benchmark for single core

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I'll even link it for you

latent light
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all we know is that it's 7nm

storm osprey
latent light
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well I/O is 14nm and the core chiplets are 7nm

storm osprey
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right side is amd cpu

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looks like outperforming to me

prime jasper
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@storm osprey screenshot the numbers

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100ns

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Sorry

storm osprey
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numbers for what?

prime jasper
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@storm osprey 9900k showing bigger score

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Than the zen2

latent light
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that's userbenchmark though

prime jasper
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Yeah

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What about it

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Cherry picking?

storm osprey
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score vs rendering faster

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i wonder which is better

prime jasper
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Score

storm osprey
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score < fps too?

latent light
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also it's an engineering sample and I remember seeing that back in November

prime jasper
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So looks like your video still showed the 9900k having a bigger score

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Zen 2 lost that one

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What's next?

storm osprey
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you basically are saying "trivial shit vs real life scenarios"

prime jasper
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@latent light es still dosnt do 100ns

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That's insane

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Even Intel es is within 50's

latent light
storm osprey
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"i get more fps than you"
crusader "yea but i get a better synthetic benchmark score"

latent light
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Ryzen 8-core engineering sample = 2057 score
9900K = 2040 score

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it looks like

storm osprey
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damn so ryzen even wins in his metric

prime jasper
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@storm osprey what? I get more fps and benchmarks than you on every lvl

latent light
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also consuming 45 watts less

prime jasper
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I'd hope so for 10nm

storm osprey
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my god, are you trolling?

prime jasper
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Sorry 12

latent light
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be funny if the 8-core Zen 2 CPU is really a Ryzen 5 and we end up with 9900K performance for only $200

storm osprey
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i coudlnt see score because my monitor resolution at work is shit

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thanks for showing it though grim, even though hes now ignoring it

prime jasper
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And why 14nm Intel is still fast. 10nm Intel is 30% faster than fake 7nm AMD.

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Had to get an actual scale to show you

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But good luck on fake 7nm AMD beating 6th gen intel

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In games

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Bet money I can take a hasewell 4 core and beat zen 2 flat out in every game

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2013 CPU

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@steep gust mark my words

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I'm doing this

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Just to shit all over amd

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Again

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And again

storm osprey
#

We can tell

#

Why are you @ ing predator? You're losing it dude

latent light
#

performance difference between Ryzen 1000 and Ryzen 2000 is bigger than Ryzen 2000 and Coffee Lake when compared at equal clock speed

steep gust
#

@prime jasper fun fact 7nm TSMC is different than Intel 10nm OMEGALUL

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@latent light under clocking a GPU is kinda shitty for comparisons don't you think?

I mean an 1800x doesn't boost to 4.0ghz stock, and I'm pretty sure a 2700x stock is 3.9ghz across all cores Thonk

prime jasper
#

@storm osprey Because we know each other

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and he know's me in other tech discords

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he know's what im saying is legit asfk

steep gust
#

I'm never met this man before Kappa

#

You'd think after the amount of rants Buildzoid has gone on about "7nm" and "10nm" you wouldn't compare them directly FeelsMeowMan

prime jasper
#

tbh I don't listen to buildzoid

#

I respect him. But I have my reason's

#

Yeah if 8700k was at it's stock 4.6ghz

#

that gap

#

would be fucking massive

steep gust
#

TSMC is building a node with good yields and multiple applications

Intel can build their node for just CPUs and doesn't give a shit about yields

#

yeah the 2700x generally does 3.9-4ghz out of the box across all cores, so locking it to that is overclocking

A 1800x certainly doesn't do 4.0ghz stock

#

So you are comparing overclocked CPUs to an underclocked

prime jasper
#

I mean if they want to compare that, my 4.5ghz 8086k at 0.8v that does 80ish watts in prime95 small, would prob do 60watts at 4ghz. I guess zen 5 is already here?

steep gust
#

Your 8086k also was chilled and golden

prime jasper
#

God, imagine my 8086k on this new build

#

jesus

#

Prob 5.5ghz 1.2v

steep gust
#

You are going like -50C right?

prime jasper
#

-110c

steep gust
#

Hm

#

What kind of power draw for that tho haHAA

prime jasper
#

pretty high

steep gust
#

If you would do direct die and can keep the CPU steady, - 80-100C is like LN2 range (under load)

prime jasper
#

Under load my phase heads are the same temps

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from idle

#

that's why this build is special

steep gust
#

Well head temp and die temp are different

prime jasper
#

true

steep gust
#

Because LN2 does -190C and even fullpot on low power stuff doesn't do that

#

They just ain't that great at heat transfer

prime jasper
#

Yeah the ln2 is trash at transfer

latent light
#

Lol

prime jasper
#

It's actually hard to get ln2 to be actually good at transfer

steep gust
#

That is why there isn't any long benches on LN2 lol

latent light
#

Is buying a copper IHS worth it

steep gust
#

depends

#

do you want a flat IHS without lapping your current?

latent light
#

Does it make a tiny difference

steep gust
#

yes? then spend $15

#

yeah a few degrees depending on how uneven your current is

latent light
steep gust
#

I don't want to lap my current IHS

#

so I'm going to eventually buy a copper IHS

latent light
#

IHS made out of tungsten carbide Kappa

prime jasper
#

All the copper IHS I had were bent

#

I had to flaten them out

steep gust
#

See I eventually plan to have more chips and so having the original IHS intact is ideal for figuring out what chip is what

latent light
#

Is copper the best thermal transfer or is there another solid metal that's even better

steep gust
#

ye gold is better

latent light
steep gust
#

IIRC

latent light
#

8086k is gold plated isn't it

steep gust
#

no

latent light
#

Oof

steep gust
#

oh I guess gold slightly loses to copper

#

silver is better than copper

#

slightly

#

and diamond wins

latent light
steep gust
#

but good luck getting a diamond to the shape of an IHS

#

direct die is even better

#

For thermal transfer distance is also really important

#

delidding and having a floating IHS is ideal because it removes the glue and gets the IHS even closer to the die

latent light
#

"If you take the 160 fastest supercomputers today, that's the capability of this machine"

#

$600 million computer

forest token
#

better not run out of stock Sad

prime jasper
#

They are allowed but little people notice, all the other countries arn't allowed

#

Like legit

#

it's banned

#

US govern's intel to sell to china atm

#

There super computer is much faster

#

but this has been years long wait

steep gust
#

generally super computers are built for one compute task in mind anyways

prime jasper
#

If there was no bann

#

this cray super super PC would take 200th

#

spot

steep gust
#

The ban is there because China doesn't give a shit about property

#

Let someone else do the work of designing the CPU then copy it am I right guys

prime jasper
#

China bought the cpu's

#

from intel

#

US said no

latent light
prime jasper
#

China threatened US

#

So many fucking times

#

But it's in the law

#

You can only be within a percentage of US super computer

#

if your nearing 2x faster, your banned

#

for a bit

#

and regulated

#

I guess AMD has a chance because no one really took amd serious before for a serious compute power

#

But what's weird

#

china's super computer is 8 billion

#

soooooo 600 mill pc is def not passing it

#

mabey for compute cpu

#

mabey

#

but no overall

#

That's like saying you won the physic score on firestrike but got 12k points overall while china has less physic's score but overall at 42k points

steep gust
#

does firestrike support multi CPU

prime jasper
#

no

steep gust
#

fuck

prime jasper
#

wait

#

I know back then the dual x79 eons

#

did

#

so yeah

steep gust
#

Firestrike stops scaling at like 20 cores right

prime jasper
#

Something like that

#

yeah

steep gust
#

and I haven't see anything about the 3175X in Xeon scalable boards

#

people say it works

#

but zero sources

prime jasper
#

It dosn't

#

it even says on intels site

#

3175x has the dual cpu mode off

#

Other than that it's just a overclockable 8180

#

with hair less ram

#

Which is this

latent light
#

the price difference between the 8170 and 8180

steep gust
#

You can find the 8180 for like $10,000

prime jasper
#

Yee I know, im just turning it into a big deal

latent light
#

buy a used one

#

2head

steep gust
#

good luck

#

Its currently the top of line Xeon-S CPU

lofty light
#

But why would you get xeon when you can get EPYC? Kappa

prime jasper
#

I want single core within this decade

#

and a cpu that can OC

grizzled apex
#

Single core in 2019 be like: LUL

#

Just go AMD

#

intel doesn’t cater to consumers, they cater to corporate

lofty light
#

Can you even get single core anything anymore?

#

Pretty sure even smartwatches are like quad core now

molten bramble
#

The abuse of that carriage return though... thonk

sacred walrus
#

Fx 6300

hybrid sentinel
#

@grizzled apex finally looked it up; it's an i7 8700K I believe. 6 cores, 3.7ghz

gritty flame
#

anyone on here have a 1660ti?

latent light
#

@grizzled apex does

molten bramble
#

@gritty flame I do.

candid rover
#

1660ti

grizzled apex
#

Well now I have to save to buy a new pc

#

My desktop will blue screen every time it turns on now

#

Isn’t that grand

prime jasper
#

ouch

#

could just need an OS reinstall or something like that

grizzled apex
#

Nah,

#

Or it could be my hard drive

#

...hm

#

Or a virus

#

Still, my systems getting old

#

I’ve had it for about 6 years now

prime jasper
#

chkdsk and sfc are you friend

grizzled apex
#

I think it might be my memory and if that’s the case, I might need a new system in general

#

Could it be possible windows is going to not support DDR3?

#

Just like how apple updates its software to make you upgrade to the most recent phone model?

#

Oh yeah, I’m upgrading soon

#

It took my desktop about 2-3 minutes to shutdown

prime jasper
#

lol well my buddy runs win 10 on a machine with first gen i7 so...

grizzled apex
#

Yeah but I got a refurbished CPU (4790k

#

The motherboard and ram are fairly new but the gpu is the newest

warm junco
#

Doesn't Apple provide pretty much top of the line support for its older gen iPhones?

#

Like 5 years or smth

#

Oh, unless you mean those cases where they artificially had the CPU throttle

#

To make the phone lag lul

grizzled apex
#

iPhone 5s used to be good. Now even the 6s sucks

violet plank
#

support yes,but what is it good for if the throttle it,and they do that

#

and agreed,i got a 6s,my last iphone,just sucks,will be replaced now by android,no more apple

storm osprey
#

moto master race

violet plank
#

since you get 3 years security updates for pretty much any android phone,there is not much left speaking for iphones anymore

grizzled apex
#

And that’s why flip phones will make a comeback

#

Because touchscreen phones suck

violet plank
#

like the motorola razr 2019 for 1500 $ ? haHAA

#

let's hope it does not break like the galaxy fold so easy lol

grizzled apex
#

^

#

XD

prime jasper
#

@grizzled apex Intel greatly caters to there consumers, the w3175x is a perfect example, they took a 10k$ chips that couldnt accept the exact amount of ram and they sold the thing for 1/4 of the price. I mean. That's pretty fucking cool

latent light
#

$3000 cpu
$1800 motherboard

storm osprey
#

thats why they stood to incremental cpus increases until amd came and made them bump up their core count on the spot?

latent light
#

coffee lake was scheduled for 2018, they launched it only 9 months after kaby lake to compete with Ryzen

prime jasper
#

Intel wasnt doing it purposely lol. It's really hard

#

AMD wont know because they dont even make there own chips

#

@latent light you can run that CPU on a 480$ board

#

It's just a 3647

#

The 1800$ board is meant for the fastest possible for the edge

#

So it has everything

#

3k$ for that chip is really good deal

#

Like that's cheap

#

Asfk

storm osprey
prime jasper
#

Theres a reason why they keep getting sold out

#

And the dominus

#

I mean, you could wait 5 more years for AMD to catch up?

#

Or buy now

#

For massive chips

latent light
#

thing is only 0.08% of the consumer market targets $3k CPUs

#

minority

prime jasper
#

Still a big consumer and it's a much bigger number than that

latent light
#

There's a reason Ryzen has been outselling Intel 2:1 in Europe and that's because value always wins

prime jasper
#

Were talking about performance now

#

Not value

storm osprey
#

i thought we were talking about catering to consumers...

latent light
#

but you like Intel because of their monopolization of the market for the past decade?

#

and taking advantage of consumers' money?

prime jasper
#

How are they taking advantage?

#

In what way

latent light
#

selling their products for much more than what it costs to produce them

storm osprey
#

for someone as seemingly educated as you are, theres no way you are oblivious to this

prime jasper
#

That's because Intel is selling the chips for really good price

#

It's not expensive at all

#

There not even going with inflation

#

For the past 10 years

#

They can totally sell i7's now for 1200$

#

And gey away with it

storm osprey
#

so now we are talking value?

prime jasper
#

@storm osprey asked you a question, now follow through

#

Lol

#

Now I'm telling you

storm osprey
#

your sentence there makes no sense...

grizzled apex
#

I’m not criticizing intel, it’s just intel doesn’t do a good job of delivering better cpu power at lower prices. At which AMD excelled since their 1700x is in similar performance to the Newer I5s at 2/3 the price

prime jasper
#

@storm osprey yes because you love to go around anything I say because of your lack of knowledge

#

Just because you hate intel

molten coral
latent light
storm osprey
#

your sentence structure suggests i asked me a question and i should follow through...

molten coral
#

If i7's were going for that price fuck Intel then i'll get AMD in an instant.

prime jasper
#

@storm osprey if you cant catch up, why bother joining the conversation?

storm osprey
#

i asked me a question, now follow through...

#

?

grizzled apex
#

The 4790k literally goes for the same price as it did when I got mine 4 years ago

prime jasper
#

You kept wanting to talk about your subject and asked you why Intel on pricing. Then we were talking about the reason and you then went back on what you were saying

grizzled apex
#

Now tell me what’s wrong with that?

prime jasper
#

Because you dont know

grizzled apex
#

Yeah, idk what I’m doing

#

I’m trying to get off a study break from calc 😛

storm osprey
#

ironic

prime jasper
#

@grizzled apex that's used

#

4790k was stopped being made years ago

storm osprey
#

you literally said we werent talking about value, then maybe 3 messages later you talk about value

grizzled apex
prime jasper
#

Because you wanted to lol. Dude you cant corner me

grizzled apex
#

600$ actually and it’s on sale

prime jasper
#

It's not going to work

storm osprey
#

ive only pointed out that you have said one thing and done another

#

no, its not gonna work on you

grizzled apex
#

Ok

prime jasper
#

Again. If you cant keep up, then dont bother

storm osprey
#

youll never be wrong

prime jasper
#

Simple as that

#

Dude, you dont even know the answers what I'm asking, your only frustrated

#

All it is

storm osprey
#

i dont even know the question you are asking

#

youre so scatter brained

#

it seems like english isnt your first language and you cant form coherent sentences

grizzled apex
#

Can we not criticize each other based on language and keep the topic about TECH on

latent light
storm osprey
#

its not a criticism, it just seems thats the case

prime jasper
#

Out of all our conversations you never once actually contributed lol. Dude its obvious

#

Stop

storm osprey
#

i only speak english, respect for people that know more than one

prime jasper
#

Just, dont answer if you dont know

#

You only look like a troll atm

storm osprey
#

yea, the dude that says a 3k cpu is a deal and that intel caters to its consumers and intel can charge 1200 for a cpu is less likely to be trolling

prime jasper
#

First thing people do when they dont know what the conversation is about is attacking Gramer. Typical lol. You must be young and think there smart

storm osprey
#

ive pointed out your illogical conclusions to what intel does in the first place

gritty flame
#

@molten bramble which 1660ti do you have?

storm osprey
#

i only pulled out grammar when it seems you cant convey what you are trying to say

#

more as a reasoning behind why i dont understand what you are even asking

#

if i was attacking grammar alone i would point out its "grammar" not "Gramer", and "their" not "there"

prime jasper
#

Then why bother on such a small brain person like myself? Oo it must only mean the big grammar boi must be correct, right?

storm osprey
#

i hinted earlier that you are educated

#

you just have weird conclusions

#

or like i said, seems you cant say what you mean

prime jasper
#

Dude I have delt with this exact situation in other discords with new tech kids or college kids that know nothing about tech and they only built 2 AMD rigs in there life.
It always ends up toxic and the admins just ban them from the conversation going no where.

So yeah I'm gonna get triggered at stupid shit like this because that's where it always seems to go when grammar kids appear.

#

So fucking tired of it

storm osprey
#

stupid shit is saying intel can sell a cpu for 1200 and get away with it

#

or that i hate intel

#

(ive never owned an amd build)

#

or that 3k isnt expensive

#

these are not logical statements

prime jasper
#

Because you dont even awknoldge inflation lol. Automatically think Intel is the bad guy yet the i7's been the fucking same price the past 10 years

storm osprey
#

and then you dont make sense when YOU say we arent talking about one topic, then literally 3 messages later YOU are talking about that said topic

prime jasper
#

You only want to see your logic stand point on this

#

No one else's

storm osprey
#

completely ironic

#

theres been what? 4 people here not agreeing with your statements

#

but somehow its just me that "only wants to see my logic stand point"

prime jasper
#

They dont want to join in on this shit show you made.

storm osprey
prime jasper
#

Dude. If you truly were concerned, you wouldv PM'd me and not do it in here full knowing that this would happen. But you dint, because you dont know and will only attack due to lack of tech knowledge and try to make yourself big on this.

#

Seen the same shit.

#

Banned the same people

storm osprey
#

does that mean youre not truly concerned either?

prime jasper
#

I'm just playing your game so people can see how you play

#

Your the only one digging the hole

storm osprey
#

and you banned people like me in previous convos?

prime jasper
#

Yea if you are in any tech discords or forums, you would know how toxic shit like this can get with people. So most definitely we ban this.

storm osprey
#

sounds like something you would do given how much of a power trip you seem to be on, and then you wonder why people question you with statements like "intel can sell an i7 for 1200 and get away with it"

prime jasper
#

Yes continue on the never ending attempt.

#

It's getting this tech channel far

storm osprey
#

idk if ive ever seen you help anyone here actually...

prime jasper
#

Because your new

storm osprey
molten coral
#

I agree with Nyphon tbh, nothing you have said so far did really make sense.

storm osprey
#

especially the im new statement

#

but it seems logical conclusions arent this guys strong suite 🤷

prime jasper
#

You did say you never seen me here help anyone. So yeah I'm gonna have to say new because that's not even true.

storm osprey
#

i wish you could do !stats still

prime jasper
#

Yes to show how much time you spent on this discord but not the tech channel

storm osprey
prime jasper
#

Seems legit

#

Were only going to bash heads if you think your going to free roam in here

#

Sorry m8

storm osprey
prime jasper
#

Weird, never seen you before in here the past couple months

#

You take break?

storm osprey
#

for a new guy i surely passed you quick

molten coral
prime jasper
#

For someone that talks in here so much, not much knowledge was attend in tech help

storm osprey
#

sure bud 👌

prime jasper
#

grabs some marshmallows

#

For real lol, it really dosnt seem you know much

molten coral
prime jasper
#

Inb4 you PM the admins, nacho and (I'm sure the mods are here) scroll up

storm osprey
#

...

#

wtf does that sentence mean

#

im gonna chalk every conversation with you up as a big miscommunication

prime jasper
#

@steep gust I been a bad bad boi, silly me has made grammar mistakes while on phone. Bann hammer plox banhammer

flint locust
#

what is this guy on about

molten coral
#

No clue

grizzled apex
prime jasper
#

@storm osprey fair enough

storm osprey
#

thats oddly tame considering your tone before

prime jasper
#

squid my name is psycho and I'm addicted to hardware

storm osprey
#

welp im off work, was... something?

#

idk what that was

#

either way, adios

prime jasper
#

Bai honny bunny's

molten coral
#

cringe

prime jasper
#

That's what hardware does to you

#

Sniff the capacitors 2 long

#

Stuff happens

latent light
#

got my TR 2990WX overclocked to all core 9.2 GHz on a 35W rated passive cooler

prime jasper
#

you should probably not bake your tendies in the same oven you cook your cards and boards in

#

Actually technically I can in my new case

latent light
#

are eATX cases only good for custom loops

#

well

#

full tower

prime jasper
#

I seen alot of people with the corsair 1000's on air

#

Just nice to have room

#

I could store all my food in my case (atmosphere o2 removed and air at -20c)

#

at least that makes more sense than stuffing a bunch of anime figures in it

#

I mean..... I was thinking about it

latent light
prime jasper
#

Shal tear bloodfallen from overlord

#

Have her in my case

#

Just so expensive

molten bramble
#

@gritty flame MSI

latent light
minor turret
#

2021 💀

violet plank
#

2021 paper launch,real launch in 2031 haHAA

latent light
#

7nm laptop chips in 2021

fiery ferry
#

Soon, 1nm brain chips haHAA

storm osprey
#

one day

latent light
#

dude selling an i7-4790 + 8GB ram + motherboard + case for only $100

#

I'm going to buy it and get a 1TB HDD, 450w PSU and a GTX 1660Ti and turn it for $300 profit

storm osprey
#

thats cheap

#

might as well as do a 1660

latent light
#

why not give the i7-4790 a chance to give it's potential

#

i7-4790 + 1660Ti(or 1070) is a good combo

supple bane
#

i might start doing that if i find a good deal around

storm osprey
#

can probably put in a 1660 and sell it for the same price

latent light
#

this is the deal

latent light
supple bane
#

but i mean, 1 pound, if he isnt lying, i could make some money just selling the parts

#

would only be a tiny amount but still

storm osprey
#

(if wanted)

#

no mate, i wont take a free motherboard, ram, or case

latent light
#

he doesn't know too much about computers

#

the seller

#

it's an OEM PC

#

with a i7-4790

storm osprey
#

man, i wish i could find deals like that

latent light
#

the dude selling that i7-4790 looks like a hitman

storm osprey
#

do it

#

now im more interested

latent light
#

gonna bring a M247, M2 browning, 50AE deagle, Scar, maybe a tank idk just incase the sale goes bad

storm osprey
#

id bring my mom with me

latent light
#

"mom... can you call the doctor for me?"

#

22 years old

storm osprey
#

moms dont care about your age

#

youre still her baby

#

and dont you ever forget that

latent light
#

I could bring my mom, she's pretty lethal with a chancla

storm osprey
#

la chancla

#

thats all the protection you need

#

a mothers love, and her chancla

gritty peak
#

hey guys have a quick question

#

been struggling with trying to link a battlelog account to my xbox live account and was wondering if i can get any help to link them

#

if anyone can help me that would be dope

storm osprey
#

hopefully someone can help you, but that doesnt seem like something we would really do here

gritty peak
#

yikes oh ok

storm osprey
#

assuming you are followed the steps correctly, that sounds like it would be some support issue with battlelog or xbox live

gritty peak
#

i tried to sync with origins and the add friends tab but there was no way to sync up xbox accounts on the origins site

#

ok so i made an ea account wit my microsoft outlook email

#

dk if dis will work or not but imma see if i can log into battlelog because the microsoft acct that i put in is the email that is used for my xbox

#

nope still not synced

#

poigejpieikgbnklb

#

so anger

#

i give up

#

(for now i guess ion know i jus wanna be able to do the phantom assignments)

molten coral
#

@gritty peak Try contacting EA support, they can help you with this problem.

#

!support

junior ploverBOT
#

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gritty peak
#

tthanks @molten coral , ill give them a shot

molten coral
prime jasper
#

chews really loudly

steep gust
#

Corshit WoahTea

latent light
#

Hynix CFR (c-die)

steep gust
#

uh

#

Its CJR

#

not CFR

#

and its perfectly fine

latent light
#

WiFi adapter was overheating so I took off the plastic case

steep gust
#

did you try adding airflow

latent light
#

Ima buy a 140mm fan for it

#

It sits out in the open on a desk

#

The plastic case is completely closed

grizzled apex
#

Or just buy power line

#

Or better yet just get a landline to Ethernet adapter

lofty light
#

@latent light I'm not kidding I just had a school almost throw out a PC with those specs

#

Ended up talking them into keeping it

latent light
lofty light
#

One very lucky teacher swapped from an athelon II with 2GB RAM to the 4790 with 8GB Yikes

grizzled apex
#

Now that’s a worth while upgrade

#

Though I’d prefer DDR4 over DDR3

lofty light
#

Not choosy when you're coming from DDR2 though 😛

molten bramble
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Gamers Nexus... the dude... I can't even about the guy... Mutefacepalm

lofty light
fallen harbor
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guys

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what was the amd competition for the 750ti?

lofty light
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Oof that's going back

latent light
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@fallen harbor I think the R7 360

fallen harbor
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ty

latent light
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hell it could of been the R9 270

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wait nvm

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r9 270 is like 30% better than the 750ti

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or more

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R9 270X was supposed to compete with the 760

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and R9 280X with the 770

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R9 290X with the 780Ti

lofty light
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Main thing 750ti had going for it is it only needed pcie power

quaint topaz
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OnePlus 7 series launch event in 4 days

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I'm excited.

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Might upgrade from my OP6 next year

latent light
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I don't like the camera thing

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probably will break easily

quaint topaz
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Yeah

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I hate how manufactures are adding moving mechanical parts

latent light
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it's tech month Happy

quaint topaz
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Imagine having to use WD40 on your Galaxy Fold hinges

latent light
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new CPU and graphics card roadmaps

lofty light
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The huawei mate X looks much better than the galaxy fold tbh

quaint topaz
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Think of it this way. If Apple charges you $549 for a back glass replacement then expect to get the same prices replacing delicate parts like the motorized camera

latent light
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yeah

quaint topaz
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Who even started with the motorized camera trend

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i dislike it so much

lofty light
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Motorised camera?

quaint topaz
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the one that pops out

lofty light
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Ah, is that the one that gets rid of the notch?

quaint topaz
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ye

lofty light
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Holy fuck that phone looks awful

quaint topaz
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I use snapchat a lot so I expect that camera to break fast.