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prime jasper
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Ye I am in Israel

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Stuff is different around here

storm osprey
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ohh

prime jasper
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But 650 nis is very good

storm osprey
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how much is a 560?

prime jasper
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615*

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645

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It’s at the same store too

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560 is more expensive

storm osprey
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pretty sure 1050ti doesnt need power cable and its definitely better than a 560

prime jasper
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Power draw?

storm osprey
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apparently 1650 dont need power either, but i really dont know how much those are

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75w for 1050ti

prime jasper
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Noice

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I think 2650 will bottleneck my cpu

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1650*

storm osprey
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what is cpu?

prime jasper
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Pentuim g630

storm osprey
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yea 1650 is overkill

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1050ti is probably overkill too

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but i wouldnt really recommend anything less than that

prime jasper
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Ye so idk what to do

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are you trying to play this game on it?

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I might as well upgrade the cpu

storm osprey
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yea

prime jasper
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What is the socket type?

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Nvm I’ll just google it lol

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Brb

storm osprey
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unless you find something crazy used i really doubt youll get a cpu worth upgrading with the same mb

prime jasper
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I’ll find a more powerful cpu with the same socket thing

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Mb?

storm osprey
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motherboard

prime jasper
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Ye il see

storm osprey
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if you plan on keeping your motherboard, that determines which cpus it supports

prime jasper
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yeah thats a sandy bridge family board, thats definitely not going to support anything better than maybe a 2600k

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Well it’s better them my current amd e2 3800 apu

storm osprey
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considering the cpu in it, and if it even had a gpu in it, i would suspect the psu to be very low watts

prime jasper
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210 wats

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Watts*

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Hm

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I’ll build a new pc

storm osprey
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sounds like the best route honestly

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which a ryzen 2200g could do you good depending on what you want/can spent

prime jasper
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for this game a 2200g is insufficient

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I want something good that lasts good

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if your buying a graphics card anyway an APU is pointless

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I’ll try to spend more

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at least a 2600 is the best bet

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Which ryzen?

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3 or 5?

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ryzen 5 2600

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Ok

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depending on budget you can go up, Im not sure how things are priced over there

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but a good b450 board shouldnt break the bank

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I’d say stuff is priced reasonably

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Most stuff is a 100 nis then the usd price

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More*

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Most ryzen 5 2600 are 700 nis

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194 usd

storm osprey
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yea its gonna be a pain helping you with a build because of price difference and availability

prime jasper
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Yep

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Rn I play bf2 on 1080p 20 FPS lol

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Scaling down a bit gets you 60 FPS

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ouch

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Ye lol

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It’s fun though

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Wonder how it will be to play bf5

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Mods. Asking it more fun

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Making *

latent light
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BFV is a lot more CPU demanding than BF1

grizzled apex
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^

latent light
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need at least 6 cores for a stable experience

grizzled apex
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The new update actually made the game more stable for lower end software I think

prime jasper
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Any of the newer bf games

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Bf2 is very limited

grizzled apex
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I’m noticing a huge difference ~20 FPS gain

latent light
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Ryzen 5 2600 is great for BFV

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stays under 80% usage the whole time

prime jasper
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While I suffer with my bad pc any good games that will run on it?

grizzled apex
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What specs?

prime jasper
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runescape

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minesweeper

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Doom

grizzled apex
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Minecraft

prime jasper
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Amd e2 3800 apu

grizzled apex
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😂

prime jasper
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Minecraft java is hell no

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well thats a laptop so....

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I tried

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It’s an all in one

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might be able to upgrade in that case, but not worth it lol

latent light
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if it can't run minecraft java then it won't run any new games

prime jasper
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I don’t want new games

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That’s why I have fun with bf2

latent light
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the original battlefront 2

prime jasper
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Battfield 2

latent light
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is there servers

prime jasper
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Yes

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There’s something called bf2hub that host bf2 servers

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And mods are cool

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I can run Minecraft bedrock though

supple bane
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i dont think that thats even known

prime jasper
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probably the 2400g

supple bane
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i dont think people buy a apu for it to perform well

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they buy it so they dont have to buy a gpu too just to browse the web like wise

storm osprey
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pretty sure the 2400g is the only igpu that people mention when talking about igpus

latent light
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2400G iGPU is like 50% better than the 2200G

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raw performance wise

storm osprey
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doesnt 2400g get like 60 fps on low for overwatch?

latent light
storm osprey
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if a 750 ti is comparable to performance a xbox one or ps4 provides, the 2400g is slightly worse than a 750ti

latent light
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750 is more like the launch xbox one while a 750 Ti is like a PS4

storm osprey
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crazy

prime jasper
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a one x is far better though

supple bane
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i dont understand how they get games to run at 60fps< on a gpu like that

latent light
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2400G can do over 60 fps on Overwatch in 1080p all medium settings

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consistent too

supple bane
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jeese, i could play games on my dads pc when i finally get around to build it for him

storm osprey
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idk prices in pounds or euros

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whatever that is, normally

supple bane
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thats 350 dollars

storm osprey
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that aint a deal here

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2600x is 190ish here, no deals

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a 570 is going for 150, with div 2 and world war z included

supple bane
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is that dollars or pound ?

storm osprey
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dollars

supple bane
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the 2600x is like 240 usd here GWseremePeepoLife

prime jasper
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whats the intel sphere like?

supple bane
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even worse

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intel is like off the charts expensive

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thats why im not buying an intel cpu ever again

violet plank
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anyone got a samsung s10 by any chance?is the battery life really that bad?

storm osprey
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god bless america

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🇺🇸

supple bane
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i wish i could punch you rn

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xD

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jk jk

supple bane
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eyy its demo ranch

storm osprey
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thats a hate crime

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im reporting you to modmail

supple bane
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fyi, that guy has a yt channel called demolition ranch... you probs know. but if you dont

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you cant do that with my fist in the side of my face Chag

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you probs could tbh

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you probs like 2x my height

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considering that muricans are massive

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im 5 foot 4

storm osprey
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lol muricans are massive

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o

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ok yea

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im 5'10" 220 pounds

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(not of muscle)

prime jasper
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fatties of the world unite!

supple bane
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im pretty skinny too,

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100 pounds...

prime jasper
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wew lad you need to eat a damn cheeseburger

supple bane
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you dont think i try NotLikeThis

storm osprey
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im not 2x your height, but more than 2x your weight xD

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man i feel fat

supple bane
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well im only 14....

storm osprey
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im also double your age...

supple bane
prime jasper
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skinny zoomers will never know whats it like to walk around in winter wearing shorts because of your natural insulation :^)

supple bane
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well you lot are known here for being fat tbf

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theres like a stereotype that muricans are super fat

storm osprey
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it ranges

supple bane
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well ye, same as every country

storm osprey
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i mean, it ranges drastically lol

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like, yea it ranges else where

supple bane
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at least america use on measurement type heh

storm osprey
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but its a much smaller range i would imagine

supple bane
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we use every type here

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we merge metric and imperial

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we use foot and inches, and meters and cm, and kg and litres

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and we use gallons, but only when it comes to fuel...

prime jasper
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that doesnt make any sense lul

storm osprey
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id hate that

supple bane
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we dont use pounds tho

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at all

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we also use stone.

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which is a weird weight measurement

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there is 12 pounds in a stone

latent light
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I wanted the Red Dragon RX 570 that has 3 fans

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it's only $140

storm osprey
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does it come with the 2 free games too?

latent light
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went with my RX 580 instead because more memory but worse cooling and noise lol

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yeah it does

storm osprey
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damnnnnn

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essentially 20 bucks for a gpu

latent light
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1320 MHz boost clock as well which makes it very close to the 580 in terms of performance

steep gust
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yeah you can always sell the keys if you don't want them

storm osprey
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im thinking of doing that just because

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can you MAKE money off of this

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sell the games and gpu..

latent light
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lol

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World War Z and The Division 2 included though...

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both good games

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if I were to buy those games, I'd get that bundle instead

storm osprey
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and sell gpu

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such a good deal

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that i feel i should take advantage of it somehow

west elm
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wow

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never playing dx12 again

little comet
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Why are images not allowed?

coarse nimbus
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only trusted and above members can embed images you can still use like imgur to link them though

little comet
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Eh

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Well my computer says error loading operating system

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If blue screened

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Then does it every time

lofty light
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Sounds like a corrupt windows install

lofty light
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Actually wouldn't be bad for my pc

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Seeing as my old mobo doesn't have a nvme slot

maiden pawn
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anyone else not being able to unlocked the mastery assignments for de lisle??

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Assignments have been buggy since update for me

jade tangle
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yeah

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not that but it gave me a lvl 10 tromboncino

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so i dont think i can unlock anything with it

prime jasper
minor turret
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world war z a good game 🤔

grizzled apex
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Yeah, I heard the reviews were pretty good for the Co op campaign, not so much the multiplayer

chilly edge
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mastery assignments are buggy for zh-29 too. Since release i cant unlock the last gold assignment for zh 29

storm osprey
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its not like im scowering for opinions on world war z but it seemed like its good, better than anyone expected, doesnt have any major downfalls either

supple bane
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anyone else having issues with crashing after the last update ?

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both me and a friend are crashing without an error message frequently

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i have had it twice in less than 24 hours \

jade tangle
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verify cache?

storm osprey
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i was crashing in firestorm

prime jasper
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sure your cat isnt blocking the intake?

storm osprey
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i dont let the cats up when im gaming

prime jasper
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its not nice to sit on them

jade tangle
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animals would die in a week in my household

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i mean

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robots*

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haha

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tech amirite

storm osprey
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my robots are furry

grizzled apex
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Too bad my house still has landline

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And not a single store near me sells Rj11 to Rj45 adapters

prime jasper
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says its currently unavailable lol

latent light
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probably sold out

grizzled apex
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Just get an Acer GN246HL

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180$ 1080p monitor

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I own one myself and the thing can pull some pretty serious colors with a durable bezel and LED backlight

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Too bad it doesn’t have DP

jade tangle
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what are advantages of dp?

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does it matter in lower resolutions?

grizzled apex
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WeSmart Not really, that’s why I use DVID

storm osprey
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dp is needed for gsync

coarse nimbus
storm osprey
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my god

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wtf is going on in this video

grizzled apex
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It’s called USB killer 3.0

steep gust
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Its called super basic

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the tldr is high voltage low current and just fry everything in its path

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basic current

latent light
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We probably won't see 5nm TSMC until Zen 4

latent light
desert bear
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Wtf...

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xD

steep gust
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$550 per 1080ti

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not amazing

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for cards that mining ones

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I have nothing against mining cards, but you shouldn't price their the same as cards used for just gaming

It can easily wear out the fans

latent light
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do mining cards operate at 100% utilization?

steep gust
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generally yes

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but they are undervolted to reduce heat

molten bramble
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Some mining cards don't have connectors for outputs. Interesting they would spend this much on these, when they could get the Chinese variant for cheaper without outputs.

steep gust
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Those are normal GPUs

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The mining GPUs are pretty much just Asian markets

latent light
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AMD getting rid of polaris stock

grizzled apex
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How is that tech @velvet willow

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It’s a music video...

velvet willow
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@grizzled apex don't U worry. U can still listen

coarse nimbus
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nice troll GWseremePeepoThink

velvet willow
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thats how dump U are

grizzled apex
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Still... if it’s not tech... it doesn’t belong here...

velvet willow
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..band me for this...and stay as U are

grizzled apex
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That’s fine, I’m too tired to type anymore xD

broken forge
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@velvet willow Please don't post youtube videos that are not related to #technology here, and be polite.

velvet willow
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@broken forge never ever

latent light
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someone on Quora asked me for a good PC build under $800 that can run Skyrim at ultra settings 1080p....

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I'm like... um... Athlon 200GE, 4GB ram and maybe a GT 1030

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1030 might even be overkill idk

prime jasper
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skyrim se? lol

velvet willow
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@latent light someone cut his broadband please and give him snake game nintendo?

molten bramble
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@velvet willow If you don't have anything useful to add to the conversation related to #technology as the topic, then take the commentary to #general.

latent light
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skyrim SE is more demanding graphics and ram wise

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maybe 8GB and a used GTX 950

velvet willow
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@molten bramble 800 dollars : 1070/16GBram DDR42400/SSD240/MSI370/EVGA650GOLD/ what ever U want

molten bramble
broken forge
forest token
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doesn't include case

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*checks budget cases* I might need a new case soon, my case doesn't support usb 3 by default, and looking at getting a zen 2 processor

latent light
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I like to call this build "getting your foot in the door"

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also, the Cougar MX330 is a great budget case

latent light
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added an RX 570 to it just so it can play AAA games

prime jasper
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Ew, amd

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Get a 1080ti

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Much better :3

latent light
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that's a budget oriented build though

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1080Ti costs over $100 more than that whole build lol

prime jasper
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Then, save more money so you can get a good pc instead of a crappy intro one?

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Lots of them have payment plans too

latent light
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not everyone wants to blow $700 on a single computer component

prime jasper
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Like $250 a month

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Much easier for a much better pc

latent light
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subjective

prime jasper
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Plus, it helps your credit rating

latent light
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lol

prime jasper
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That's what I said when you suggested amd :p

latent light
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what's wrong with AMD

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they make amazing products

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Ryzen is great

prime jasper
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They have problems with nearly everything

latent light
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like?

prime jasper
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Like...nearly everything. Old and new

latent light
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you're not describing anything

prime jasper
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9/10 times there's a update for amd cards because they can't handle something correctly

latent light
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maybe back in 2013

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I've got an RX 580 and never have to update my drivers, although updating drivers is good for new releases but that's also apparent on Nvidia cards too

prime jasper
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Not updating drivers is a bad thing

latent light
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for example, both Nvidia and AMD launch new drivers when a new game comes out for optimization purposes, you don't have to but usually you'll get a small bump in performance

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ummm.....

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I can use a driver from 2 years ago and be completely fine

prime jasper
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You do realize there's more than just game optimizations in those drivers right?

latent light
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obviously

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old drivers does not mean bad though

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hell, you know new Nvidia drivers have been fucking up CPU utilization recently?

prime jasper
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I'm not understanding how that is a brag....that seems worse. As in they haven't improved or changed anything in 2 years

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I have a 1080ti and I'm fine

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So no, I don't know that

latent light
prime jasper
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I mean, probably if you're stupid and install everything even if you don't need it

latent light
prime jasper
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Yeah, it'll have problems

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Should only install what you need and do a clean install too

latent light
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yeah I always use DDU

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in safe mode

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just to get it as clean as I can

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anyway the point is, older drivers aren't bad

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I'm using a driver from november 2018 currently

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and it's flawless

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you should be skeptical when installing new drivers because there's always a chance of new problems rising

prime jasper
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I assume the problem was on pcs that weren't updating or low tier hardware

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  1. It doesn't specify who had the issues and 2) my computer is completely up to date and I haven't experienced that
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I install new drivers like it's a bottle of water in the desert

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Because they always fix things. IF somehow there is a problem, I can fix it myself

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Older drivers could have security vulns too

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I literally can't understand how or why people will use old drivers and then complain about problems

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Hell, can't understand people using old drivers period

latent light
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Intel CPUs have multiple reports of new security vulnerabilities but you don't see many people complaining

prime jasper
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If I'm using a 7 month old graphic driver...please kill me

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Because it's not me

mystic leaf
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In battlefieldtracker i cant see my region or country's friends region, why its?
Should i change my country to US on Origin?

supple bane
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i have nothing on my pc that is worth getting hold of anyway, so go ahead... hack me LUL

grizzled apex
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That’s depressing

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1650 gets 51 FPS while rx 570 gets 68

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On ultra

jade tangle
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those low end Gpus suck anyways go all in or go home

molten coral
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How do they suck? They are great value for the money.

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Especially the 580

jade tangle
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2 months later youre going to buy a new one because its not good enough

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for the newer games

vernal parcel
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hey i need some help

molten bramble
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Would probably help to specify. See the pinned messages above.

vernal parcel
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my framerate is dying

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@molten bramble

molten bramble
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... yes?

broken forge
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👀

vernal parcel
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can you help me figure out why my framerate is dying please

molten bramble
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I told you above to specify. You've provided nothing for anyone to help you with, only the vague description that the framerate is dying. That could be any number of things, you need to elaborate on what in particular you're experiencing as well as your setup of what you're running.

vernal parcel
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okie dokie then

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framerate is around 30 for some reason i did the 10 hour play trial to test if my pc could handle the game which it did fine then. I have a FX-8320 OC to 4 ghz and a 1060 6gb and 16 gb of ram

molten bramble
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Since the latest patch, there have been complaints from the community that they had frame rate reduction on previously 60+ fps machines. It doesn’t appear that it has been pinpointed the source yet, probably because it’s sporadic and doesn’t impact the majority of the community. Have you checked EA Answers HQ yet?

vernal parcel
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hm. No i havent checked that yet

jade tangle
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why do you have a fx 8320 with an 1060

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did it run on 60 fps before?

molten bramble
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What DX are you running as well?

vernal parcel
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i got like 80 during the 10 hour play trial

molten bramble
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Are your cores throttling when you play? Could try HWMonitor and watch how things run while playing the game.

vernal parcel
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and dx11

jade tangle
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on ultra?

vernal parcel
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no high

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now i cant get higher than 35 on all low

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and cores are fine

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i use HWMonitor

jade tangle
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i wouldve said you should get a new cpu. but as it seems the cpu runs better than my 6700k. lmao

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wtf

vernal parcel
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oof lol

jade tangle
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how does that cpu get 90 fps

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on ultra

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i barely get 90 on low

vernal parcel
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idk

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thats why idk why my frames are bad now

molten bramble
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Considering the 1060/6Gb card, that should be enough to run on high. I believe the minimum VRAM reqs are 2Gb, but I could be wrong.

jade tangle
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id blame the game

molten bramble
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Did you update drivers between the trial and the game?

vernal parcel
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im sure i have yes

molten bramble
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Everything I am reading via Google supports that card at a minimum of 60FPS with the game. So it could be the game patch hosing you, or settings you haven't identified here, or a video driver that has monkeyed something up. Do you have this issue with any other games?

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Obviously something as graphically intense for comparison.

vernal parcel
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no every other game is good except for dcs world but that game is tougher to run

jade tangle
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what driver did you update to?

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was it a beta driver?

vernal parcel
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no

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it was one of the GeForce Experience ones

jade tangle
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you could try a rollback to the previous driver

molten bramble
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Yeah, I've had to do that before.

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At this point, it's a process of elimination. Might help to screenshot your game settings for us and send them to me to post here.

vernal parcel
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ok

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gimme a min

supple bane
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sooo, i just ran user benchmark, and it says that my ram is super below average.. is there a reason for this ?

jade tangle
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what ram is it?

supple bane
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16gb 2133mghz corsair vengeance

jade tangle
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what mainboard do you have?

supple bane
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that wont make a difference to my ram performance but its a asus h110m-k

jade tangle
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mostly it says your ram is super below average if you use ram with higher freq than your mobo supports

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are you sure its 2133

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because your mainboard only supports up to 2133

supple bane
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im the one that brought the components yanno xD

jade tangle
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well if you start so i wont even try to help you

supple bane
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fine dont...

molten bramble
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@supple bane Do not use that word here, thanks.

supple bane
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sowy

molten bramble
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@supple bane Also, you'd be surprised how many folks come in here asking questions without understanding component compatibilities. The question @jade tangle was asking you was legitimate to narrow down the possibilities of what could be causing issues for you and why your performance rating on the ram could be impacted. The response you gave them wasn't nice, they're just trying to help because you're asking for help. Be kind.

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Userbenchmark also has some negatives to it, take their results with a grain of salt and cross-check against something else.

supple bane
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i understand. and i used a word that isnt allowed here, but its not like i was being nasty, i was just telling him in a banterish way that ik what im talking about

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but yes if that word isnt allowed here i will take my lumps

molten bramble
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Passmark and Memtest86 might be worth looking at.

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@supple bane I understand what you're saying, but noone in here would know that would they? They only know what you relay to them.

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It's just the process of elimination in most cases. Next time, you might want to include that you did/checked A, B, and C prior and then the result.

supple bane
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i understand, maybe if i didnt use such a harsh word in my first part maybe both prsn and your self would understand that ik that i had the right names etc

molten bramble
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I gotcha, consider it resolved, but maybe worth giving them a 'hey..' and sharing that.

supple bane
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@jade tangle

vernal parcel
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my game is crashing over and over now

stiff merlin
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Hey I'm playing on Xbox and every time i try and join a game i get "failed to join game session An unknown error occurred. error code: 1

vernal parcel
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im having a hard time understanding why an xbox one gets better performance than a pc

steep gust
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it doesn't

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but ok

coarse nimbus
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there are many more potential combinations of components for a pc compared to an xbox 1

vernal parcel
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im talking about rn my xbox is preforming better than my pc

steep gust
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then buy a better PC

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I can beat out an Xbox one with about $250 worth of hardware

supple bane
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ye all xbox's are the same, yet with a pc you can have parts that are better than some

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you more than likely have a pc only good for general surfing, not any special hardware

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to put it simply. a console will never out perform a "gaming" pc as with pc gaming there will always be another step up in terms of performance

steep gust
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or like magnitudes better

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The Xbox One doesn't even have separate system memory and VRM

latent light
steep gust
#

uh

#

they do realize that "Xnm" is a generational manufacturing listing and not a size marker?

latent light
#

that's the comment that adored talks about

steep gust
#

quit reading leaks

#

ez

latent light
#

TSMC's 14nm process was really 1.5 nodes between 28nm and 14nm

steep gust
#

Entirely different nodes

#

Intel doesn't seem to care about yields

latent light
#

he talks about it on that video at 6:10

#

TSMC's 16nm and Samsung's 14nm were hybrid nodes

frosty perch
#

Hello everyone! I was wondering if the "Origin Access Refer-a-Friend" thing is back up - i know it was disabled for a while after Anthem came out.

latent light
#

lmao at the end of that video Adored says "By this point though, I'm believing nothing and if I were you, I'd do the same"

#

he also said "60 compute units on Navi will perform slightly lower than 60 compute units on Vega 20"

#

which is realistic, Navi isn't likely to match the Radeon VII

minor turret
#

oh ye of little faith

#

navi will match 2080 ti and cost 250 usd

#

and ryzen 3850x will oc to 5.5ghz

supple bane
#

amd are bout to own

latent light
#

Navi will open the flood gates on the low and mid-range though

#

I can see the GTX 1660 and 1660Ti being irrelevant when Navi comes out

minor turret
#

tbh if it matches vega 64 performance at 250-300 usd i would surprised

supple bane
#

i can see nvida and intel in general being irrelevant soon

latent light
#

wasn't there a Vega 64 on sale for like $300 not too long ago

minor turret
#

but more likely vega 56 performance for 250

#

you sure that wasnt vega 56 on a big sale?

latent light
#

Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 is going for $300 right now

minor turret
#

i know amd put v56 on huge sales to disrupt nvidia 1660 launches

#

to like 250-275usd

latent light
#

right now Gigabyte Vega 64 is $380

#

but it's Gigabyte so it's not good

#

found the miner

warm junco
#

30-45 days warranty for Sapphires?

#

Wtf

#

monkaS should I go with an ASUS Arez Strix model instead?

latent light
#

tbh the dude is lying

#

he said Asus has a good warranty but even Gamers Nexus says Asus warranty is one of the worst out there

warm junco
#

Lol

#

Classic

#

Gotta do a lot of research to get a balanced view

#

As per usual

latent light
#

I've heard that customer service is always hit or miss with any company

#

but there is always an average for who is the worst

earnest willow
#

I need help with bf3

supple bane
#

what seems to be the problem

regal bone
#

I’m level 13 engineer, but can’t get ap mines and drilling

thorn zephyr
#

!support

junior ploverBOT
#

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Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
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jolly steppe
#

hmm

#

does non max-q 2070 mobile worth to buy to play bf5?

grizzled apex
#

It depends. What’s the laptop @jolly steppe

night igloo
#

hello my BF V just updated and now it is no more starting

#

i tried to repair the installation but not worked.

#

i can run other games on origin, its just BF V after the last update.

jolly steppe
#

aorus 15x v10

#

i7 9750H and 2070 laptop ver

#

its from gigabyte

steep gust
#

do you need battery life?

jolly steppe
#

hmmm

#

over 50W?

#

'

#

but the aorus is 46W

steep gust
#

Its more of any gaming laptop with big CPUs and a GPU have bad batteries

#

period

jolly steppe
#

hmm.

#

but i will use power cables so

#

maybe I dont need that big

latent light
#

gaming laptops are almost pointless

#

you start a game and your battery life drains 5x faster than just regular browsing

#

high-end gaming laptops will only last 1 to 1.5 hours when gaming

#

32 Vcore phases for a quad core

molten bramble
#

@night igloo

#

!support

junior ploverBOT
#

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

grizzled apex
#

Grim is right. Besides, why spend 2000$ on a laptop when you can build a desktop width much better hardware that can handle better titles at higher resolutions and frames

sour meteor
#

For some people a laptop is a better solution, a laptop with a proper thunderbolt 3 port with 4 pcie lane is the best choice in my opinion. Give you the oportunity to use an external video card and a smaller laptop.

steep gust
#

uh

#

external GPU is straight ass

sour meteor
#

not for people with limited space,or people who need to constantly carying their laptop with them

#

everyone got different need

steep gust
#

Yeah so they want to pay $200 for a box

#

to lug around

#

that needs an external PSU

#

That also greatly limits their performance of that GPU and introduces latencies?

prime jasper
#

at that point just get a one x lol

sour meteor
#

personaly i use a full tower,still one of my friend use a the razer external gpu as a dock home and its quite decent

#

and im fucking drunk cant aim properly nor write

jolly steppe
#

yay

#

just bought a laptop

molten coral
supple bane
#

is there a reason this is so expensive ?

#

i saw it on part picker and i cant get my head around why it costs so much

jolly steppe
#

maybe 6gb/s

supple bane
#

no thats the speed of a sata cable

jolly steppe
#

oh i see

#

read 500mb/s?

#

why is it that so expensive?

supple bane
#

thats slower than my drive which is the same capacity of that and is 400 pound cheaper

#

ok it has 200 gb more

jolly steppe
#

1.2tb

supple bane
#

but that should not = 400 pound more

jolly steppe
#

yes

supple bane
#

it must have something about it that makes it so expensive.

warm junco
#

A seller that's full of shit

supple bane
#

typical intel

#

but thats like, overly expensive, im pretty sure that that does something that a normal solid state doesnt do/ cant do

minor turret
#

its 300$ on amazon

supple bane
#

I just got a Logitech g502 GWsetmyxPeepoEvil

jade tangle
#

During endurance tests, Intel ssds are known to kill themselves (lock into read only mode) before any sector reallocations as to reduce the chance of corruption. No other SSDs do that (or do it after acceptable sector losses), it seems reliability, perhaps in business applications, is a high priority. --qwerqmaster 211 Points. Source Reddit

#

prolly the ssd is also so expensive because its discontinued

minor turret
#

From a sample of one intel SSDs are god tier

#

mine has lasted for 7-8 years

winter ridge
#

do you guys prefer

#

new AMD

#

over intel?

#

not only for gaming

#

I mean overall

minor turret
#

no one likes a monopoly so amd ofc

supple bane
#

ye i would take amd overall

steep gust
#

@supple bane no stock

jade tangle
#

is this good to play bf5 with on 30 fps?

steep gust
#

Its a threadripper CPU with worse memory support

supple bane
#

it should get you 30 fps ye

minor turret
#

doesnt it have glorious 8 channel memory or something?

steep gust
#

ye

#

I hope the PS5 is thicc and uses a proper PSU so its not greatly power limited

violet plank
#

i hope the ps5 is not louder than my vac cleaner...

supple bane
#

no console is loud i have found

violet plank
#

my first ps4 was loud af

#

could even hear it trough headphones

#

5m away

supple bane
#

you must have had a faulty fan

#

mine was silent

violet plank
#

nope

#

was a certain series that was that loud

#

can't recall which

supple bane
#

i just had the normal ps4 and that was silent

violet plank
#

after i got another revision it was like silent af lol

#

it wasn't that loud on all games

#

only the most demanding ones like the last of us remastered

#

the noise was a mix from the drive and the fans

#

here,that's how my first ps4 sounded

#

and that's the noise lvl you could here 5 m away!

steep gust
#

having one faulty fan

#

=/= all

crude storm
#

origin servers down 😄

violet plank
#

again?

crude storm
#

again!

jade tangle
#

what does nb frequency mean in cpuz? it show 4000 mhz on my porgram

steep gust
#

cache

jade tangle
#

cache?

steep gust
#

yeah

#

CPU cache

jade tangle
#

is that the same as the clock speed of my cpu?

latent light
#

PS4 uses blower fan ofc it's loud

#

PS4 Pro is even much louder

jade tangle
#

nb is northbride and the northbridge is the chip on the motherboard which controls the i/o on the mobo right?

#

"Modern Intel Core processors have the northbridge integrated on the CPU die, where it is known as the uncore or system agent. "

violet plank
#

my ps4 pro is silent,can't hear a thing from it about 2 m away

prime jasper
latent light
#

Sony did make a quieter PS4 Pro sometime last year

coarse nimbus
violet plank
#

never seen any loud ps4 pro,mine was/is from the first batch that shipped

#

after launch

supple bane
#

@coarse nimbus this is a really good system for the price

#

and the monitor is a good bonus

steep gust
#

$800 isn't bad

#

the 970 can be sold

minor turret
#

depends on area

#

i would value gtx 970 at 70-80 dollars

#

ram is a cl 16 kit so you can get that 100-150 usd new

supple bane
#

the gpu isnt even that bad just to keep

#

it will play all games

minor turret
#

doesnt list monitor though

#

could be dogshit aoc or something similar

crude storm
#

i sold my gtx 770 2 month ago for 80 euro on ebay 😄

grizzled apex
#

That’s not too bad for the price, though I’d sell the card and get a 1660 or a rx 580

#

8gb

minor turret
#

I could buy a 2600x with similar ram, mobo, ssd for around 400-450 usd, it depends on how much you value the accessories

#

and thats new

steep gust
#

That RAM is like $100

#

at best

minor turret
#

that ram is 100 usd new

#

its less used

jade tangle
#

cl16 ram 🤢

steep gust
#

uh that is pretty standard

minor turret
#

id say 550-600 if i add cheap psu and case with airflow

jade tangle
#

i know its standard

steep gust
#

No reason to gatekeep ram

jade tangle
#

but is it b-die

#

thats the question

minor turret
#

if you value monitor, mouse, keyboard, earphones at 400 usd i guess its an okay deal

steep gust
#

You need binned B-Die for it to be good

#

I have cheap B-Die and it clocks like ass

minor turret
#

stabilized mine at 3333 cl 16-17 haHAA

jade tangle
#

cl14 or go home

minor turret
#

actually 3333 cl 16-8-17 etc

grizzled apex
#

The 2600 just keeps getting cheaper

#

And it’s a good time to be a consumer

minor turret
#

they are gonna lower flash production so i guess its time to buy 3600 cl15/cl16 bdie for 3700(x)

jade tangle
#

b-die is eol

#

i learned that by watching that stream someone posted for 5 minutes

supple bane
#

is there a reason that i have been logged out of origin

#

?

#

i kinda forgot my password and it wont let me do the reset my password

wispy tapir
#

EAs Servers are Down

supple bane
#

ok ignore that, i logged in

haughty terrace
#

my origin wont work

supple bane
#

servers are down

latent light
#

3rd gen threadripper could get delayed

#

maybe not even come out

minor turret
#

ayy rip silicon yield i guess

#

too bad for threadripper

#

rip b-die, much beloved by consumer but not so much by samsung

#

say hello to dual rank? m-die

latent light
#

they might have problems with 3rd gen threadripper on the X399 chipset

steep gust
#

@minor turret m8

#

that article is straight bullshit

#

B-Die is not getting scrapped

#

They are no longer going to sell OEM B-Die

minor turret
#

Oh i trusted toms

#

My bad

steep gust
#

oh and it counts x16 b-die i guess

#

but who knows

molten bramble
minor turret
#

navi leak suggesting 2 pin power connector and upwards to 300w tdp Chag

#

time to get hyped

#

vega 64 power draw on smaller node

steep gust
#

navi leaks are worthless

supple bane
#

seriously, what are ea even doing, transferring all there data onto punch cards reeeee

#

why is this taking so long

steep gust
#

because its sunday?

#

and servers are complicated?

little comet
#

Rx 580 good?

supple bane
#

yes

little comet
#

Nice

#

On sale and I'm planning to build a PC

supple bane
#

one of the best price to performance cards out there

little comet
#

$290

steep gust
#

USD?

little comet
#

Probably CAD

steep gust
#

oh

#

yeah $290 USD is bad

#

idk about CAD

molten bramble
#

Most major service providers at the tier of EA have failover/redundancy built in, so for it to be down this long means something probably broke badly. It happens.

little comet
#

On memory express, usually 400

#

My friend recommends amd 5 2600

supple bane
#

yes, also a good recommendation

#

i would recommend the amd ryzen 5 2600x personally

#

it has more performance and overclocking capability's but is slightly more

little comet
#

Yeah mine has ryzen in the name but no x

molten bramble
#

I don't know much about Ryzen, but I've seen that very recommendation a lot.

little comet
#

I want to play battlefield 1 lol

molten bramble
#

!specs

junior ploverBOT
supple bane
#

with those specs, you will play bf 1 with no problems in the world

molten bramble
#

If it meets that, it'll handle BF1.

little comet
#

My current PC is outdated and it's hard drives got beaned recently

#

Gts 450, amd phenom 1090t

#

I have talked here before

#

It's functional, so hopefully I can get some money back from it?

prime jasper
#

wont be much

little comet
#

Yeah

#

They have been used a while

#

But worked reasonably well

steep gust
#

sell it as a basic computer

little comet
#

Could manage battlefield 1 in certain maps, but poor fps

supple bane
#

i could probs go on ebay for a normal surfing computer,

little comet
#

Also tx 750 power supply which I think is pretty alright

#

Maybe old?

#

But that just means slightly less efficient

steep gust
#

old PSUs are not less efficient

#

a lot of older PSUs are straight dangerous

supple bane
#

i would be more scared of it making my pc into a huge bomb

#

not its resale value

little comet
#

Heh

#

True

#

I had 4 raid hard drives so 2 TB total and they got fucked up somehow

steep gust
#

fun fact

#

raid 0

#

means one drive fails

#

they all lose information

little comet
#

Oh really

#

I thought it meant they were mirrored, so one fails the other can replace it

prime jasper
#

thats raid 1

little comet
#

Oh

#

Idk which kind I have

#

I thought it was just raid

steep gust
#

raid 1 doesn't add storage

#

it causes one of the drives to be a duplicate

#

aka you lose storage

little comet
#

Yeah

#

I think that's what I have

#

Or rather had

minor turret
#

You guys think the new a-die and possibly m-die will clock well?

#

On samsung

fiery ferry
#

yet I still play with an i3 2100 pretty fine

#

lel

lofty light
latent light
steep gust
#

late

#

by like 3 weeks

latent light
vernal parcel
#

im rubber banding really bad

#

with stable ping

lofty light
#

Packet loss to the servers

#

Happened to us Aussies in the last days of bf1 notoriously

little comet
#

You mean past few days or the final days of bf1?

lofty light
#

Final days before BFV

#

And by that I mean like 4 months before

#

Then they went to AWS and it was a lot better

latent light
#

anthony > linus

lofty light
#

GN>>>>>>>Anything else

fiery ferry
#

Good night?

#

I wish I could my hands on an i7 3770

latent light
#

depending on your motherboard, you could update the BIOS and get a 3770

#

since you got i3-2100

fiery ferry
#

Which is why I want it

#

It's an amazing CPU that works just as well as the newer generations

latent light
#

have you ever done a bios update before?

fiery ferry
#

It's the best thing that could fit my motherboard

#

Not me, but a guy after I installed more RAM

#

He told me updated the bios

#

and that was many years after I purchased the pc

#

There are used i7 3770s

#

But I'm afraid

#

I found someone who sold an i7 3770 but he was selling it for way too high price that I should just buy a new cpu and a new motherboard

latent light
#

wouldn't pay over $120 for a 3770

fiery ferry
#

He was selling it for like 250$

latent light
#

you can get a 3770 for $100 on ebay

fiery ferry
#

I live in Egypt

#

I don't have a credit card

#

So unless that someone can send it to me and pay cash somehow

#

I'm all for it

latent light
#

damn you probably won't find a 3770 anywhere there

#

for sale at least

#

damn RTX 2060 is $450 usd in egypt

#

a single 8GB stick of ram is $70

fiery ferry
#

lol

#

yup

#

how much is it for you?

latent light
#

8GB is $45 here

#

RTX 2060 $350

brazen spindle
#

now i have 8gb ram, will another 8gb improve my fps?

supple bane
#

is it single channel or dual channel

#

?

#

so do you have 1x8gb stick or 2x4gb stick?

brazen spindle
#

@supple bane i have 1x8gb

supple bane
#

that is single channel. bfv hates single channel ram. and so do some other games, i would highly recommend that you get another 1x8gb stick or return that stick and buy 2x4gb. you will see in some cases like a 30fps increase if you do this

brazen spindle
#

@supple bane so one more 8gb stick will improve my fps, even if im gonna habe 2x8gb ram, right?

supple bane
#

yes, it will

brazen spindle
#

i have i5 6600k and gtx 1070 is that enough?

#

@supple bane i have i5 6600k and gtx 1070 is that enough?

supple bane
#

yes, that is plenty

#

thats ironic, i was speaking to someone irl who had the exact same system specs as you OMEGALUL

#

that video is a comparison of having 2 ram sticks over having 1

brazen spindle
#

@supple bane wait man, noooo

#

@brazen spindle i do have 2x4gb ram LOL

#

i just notice

supple bane
#

ah ok then

#

there isnt any need to upgrade to 16gb then

#

it wont give you that much of a performance boost

brazen spindle
#

but i do have fps drops

#

and cant get over 100

supple bane
#

yes that seems about right for those specs

brazen spindle
#

but, what if i buy one stick of 8gb, what do you think

supple bane
#

a.) it wont work as you have to have the ram all the same size usually, so like all sticks have to be the exact same. b.) upgrading from 8gb to 16gb wont give you a huge fps increase

#

well for me it hasnt at least

brazen spindle
#

are you 100% sure?

supple bane
brazen spindle
#

@supple bane so what do you think, new cpu?

supple bane
#

what fps are you averaging ?

#

also btw you dont have to @ me everytime

jade tangle
#

if you want over 100 fps that cpu isnt good enough

#

i have an i7 6700k and i play with low everything and cant barely get over 100 fps

supple bane
#

^

jade tangle
#

you should get an 8 core cpu

supple bane
#

4 cores isnt enough in bf

jade tangle
#

like ryzen 2600x or 2700x

#

2600x is 6 core

supple bane
#

what is your monitor ?

#

because if it isnt 144 hrtz there isnt any point having over 60fps

#

or 75

brazen spindle
#

i have and 60hz monitor

supple bane
#

ye so there isnt any point you having over 60fps

#

i would reccomend you turn on v-sync and that should help with the frame drops

brazen spindle
#

yeah but, input lag for mouse is huge

supple bane
#

eh?

brazen spindle
#

not input lag

#

the fuck

#

my aim feels weird with v sync on

jade tangle
#

yeah vsync is trash tbh

supple bane
#

what ?

jade tangle
#

do you have future frame rendering enabled?

supple bane
#

vsync doesnt change your aim

#

all it does it cap the fps

jade tangle
#

it increases the input lag

#

i also feel a big difference when using vsync

#

its feels spongy

supple bane
#

i have never had that

#

but ok

#

well i would recommend that you just cap your fps to 60 then,

#

if you dont want to use v-sync

brazen spindle
#

future frame rendering, what about that

supple bane
#

that will increase fps but increase input lag with it on

brazen spindle
#

when it is off i do have more drops with off

supple bane
#

yes

jade tangle
#

i play with it switched on

#

the input lag is barely noticeable

brazen spindle
#

i really don feel input lag

#

when it is on or off

jade tangle
#

yeah

#

on increases fps

#

so you might just let it on

brazen spindle
#

mhhh, and do you guys use raw input on mouse settings, on or off?

jade tangle
#

on

#

there are also some great guides on youtube which show you how you can get the most fps out of your game

#

i dont know if youre very competetive but if the lags annoy you just put everything on low

brazen spindle
#

it is all on low

jade tangle
#

oh

brazen spindle
#

only mesh

#

quality on med or high

jade tangle
#

texture quality could be set to ultra that might put stress of your cpu

brazen spindle
#

that to out on ultra?

#

put

jade tangle
#

yeah

#

game also looks better then

brazen spindle
#

and what about fps with than set to ultra?

jade tangle
#

try it

brazen spindle
#

do you have any link that did help you mate?

jade tangle
brazen spindle
#

dx 12

#

on or off

jade tangle
#

i use on

#

i dont really notice much difference

brazen spindle
#

im gonna try some of those, see ya in bit

grizzled apex
#

Now that’s gonna be something. Intel confirmed an I7 10700k

finite torrent
#

That face is just, well I guess I'll just die.

grizzled apex
#

Nah

#

It’s me and my dog bro,

finite torrent
#

No I mean the video you posted @grizzled apex

grizzled apex
#

Oh xD

#

Yeah. It’s something pretty interesting though. I never knew intel was invested in RT before nvidia

supple bane
#

i dont know if it might be time for an upgrade or not. like in that conquest game i was averaging like 50 fps, yes that feels silky smooth for me and i cant notice any stutter, but still,

#

but this is on the lowest settings possible

prime jasper
#

if youre happy, youre happy. if you arent...

supple bane
#

exactly,

#

i guess i will wait a little longer and see what happens

#

maybe im just having an unlucky day or something

#

my cpu is sitting at 100% the whole time so ik that it is my cpu causing the low fps

#

but again, for me at least, i dont think it is low enough to warrant an upgrade

minor turret
#

if 50 fps works for you then thats fine

#

i have played with some good people in firestorm that run 40-70 fps

zinc cosmos
#

I am going to upgrade my CPU from a 4 cores and threads to 6.I read that 6 cores is good for battlefield,right?My current one is at 100% all the time.

minor turret
#

holy shit fuck origins anti bot image things

#

so obnoxious, click like 5 pictures in a row before it accepts

fiery ferry
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WHat cpu @zinc cosmos

zinc cosmos
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Current one or my upgrade? @fiery ferry

fiery ferry
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upgrade

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and what's ur current one eitherway

zinc cosmos
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i5 9400f

fiery ferry
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ur current one then

zinc cosmos
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i5 6600k

finite torrent
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Of damn boy it's sannic

fiery ferry
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Wtf

minor turret
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9400f is pretty much the same as 8400 which is absolutely smashed by ryzen 2600(x)

fiery ferry
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You don't need a new cpu

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What the heck

zinc cosmos
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it's still in development didnt order it yet

fiery ferry
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Your cpu is just fine and even better

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but not better than 9400f

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But ur cpu's way too good

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You're saying it's stuttering bf?

zinc cosmos
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yeah

fiery ferry
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It's not suppoed to at all

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There's soemthing else wrong

minor turret
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6600k lacks hyperthreading which causes stuttering in mp

fiery ferry
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it still won't stutter

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Wait unless alex is talking about a 1 second stutter every 1 hour

zinc cosmos
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nah,I'm not dumb 😅

fiery ferry
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it's something else stuttering ur bf

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your gpu

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ur ram

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ultra 4k configuration

zinc cosmos
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1060 6gb 16gb ram ddr4

minor turret
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6600k most likely has shit ram with it so ram is probably nr 1 issue

zinc cosmos
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1080p

minor turret
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what is your ram clocked at

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and timings

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6600k will still suffer from stutters in mp, but less with good ram

fiery ferry
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his ram is 16gb like hory heck

zinc cosmos
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yeah,that is the thing,my mobo only supports 2133 and my ram is 2400,fuck the guy that made my PC,back then I didnt really know about PC parts and stuff

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i want to upgrade my motherboard too

jade tangle
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is it the mobo ? the 6600k also just support 2133

minor turret
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well then your mobo is not a z170 or whatever that model was

zinc cosmos
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it's a gigabyte g1 sniper b7

minor turret
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@jade tangle all cpus support like max 2666 even with newest stuff. higher ram profiles are technically OCing

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but you can have higher on 6600k too

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could theoretically run 4000 mhz ram though im not sure about mobo quality

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b150 boards do not support OC, get a new mobo or a new rig if you want improvement

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6600k is a waste on it

zinc cosmos
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yeah

jade tangle
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mobo looks dope doh

zinc cosmos
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should've learned about PC parts before the guy made my PC,its kinda my bad too 😅