technology

[latent light]

RX 570 > GTX 1650

[grizzled apex]

Honestly, nvidia is very desperate now. They know they are losing

Also geforce optimization is pretty reliable

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt use it personally

geforce experience used to be shit and mess with your files, never looked towards it since then

its easy to set up the game how you want to play

[buoyant junco]

My 1050ti is Asus Cerberus. It comes with ASUS GPU Tweak II app. How about Gaming Mode and Gaming Booster settings? Do these tricks really work? I'm an inexperienced Gamer, i didn't get a lot.

[storm osprey]

i assume those are auto OC and generally they get the job done

of course its better to OC manually

[buoyant junco]

@storm osprey unless you don't know how to do it. Tweak wil set it for best as it can i think.

[storm osprey]

OC is not hard

theres like 5 things to consider when OCing

it just takes a while to run stability tests

[buoyant junco]

@storm osprey @grizzled apex @latent light Thanks for the help !

[latent light]

in BFV, RX 570 will get around GTX 1660 performance

[storm osprey]

570/580 are definitely best bang for bucks for bfv and in general

[daring swallow]

Hey! I need some help with my discord, almost any voice chat in any server i join i get >10% packet loss (usually 50-100%). Why is this? How can i fix it?

[thorn zephyr]

What region is it set to

[storm osprey]

my best friend plank

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/plank-ed-edd-neddy-gif-9936376

[solid nest]

@storm osprey It seems like my brother loses access to my steam library after a couple of days/a week. So every time this happens we need to set up the whole thing again, with him logging into steam with my account details. Do you have an idea what could cause this?

[pallid silo]

so i currently have a ryzen 7 1700 with a x470 msi carbon mobo and SLI GTX 1080 😃 I use nvidia profile inspector for all my games as thats how i force SLI when ryzen 3rd gen comes out i will be reinstalling windows does anyone know if resetting windows will mess up my nvidia inspector settings? 😃

[cunning junco]

@pallid silo give me your pc ??

[prime jasper]

right for the jugular

[storm osprey]

@solid nest sorry to say i havent had that issue, my friend does lose access to my account sometimes, but its like.. once a year. since its not that often for me i havent looked for a solution

[pallid silo]

@cunning junco xD i got my 1080s on ebay

[cunning junco]

how much?

[grizzled apex]

Used 1080s go for like 300-400$ if your lucky

Well? Are you punk?

[minor turret]

more like 300

and 1080ti for 400-430

[storm osprey]

different region difference?

[grizzled apex]

Probably American eBay

[prime jasper]

yeah that happened to me once, a little holy water fixed it

[supple bane]

holy water in the super soaker fixes everything

[steep gust]

I hate Tumblr with a passion

[supple bane]

How come?

[steep gust]

Its obnoxious "Haha funny joke > hahaha funny joke > hahaha not fucking original joke in the same premise" with no fact checking

Its like Reddit

but somehow worse?

[prime jasper]

+1

i need help

with overclocking my gpu

i boosted clock and memory speed

and game closed itself

means your overclock isnt stable

[steep gust]

Well is this a hd 7870 or a Pascal / Turing card?

because we need more information

[prime jasper]

rx 590

[steep gust]

What exactly did you change

[prime jasper]

can i send pic

[steep gust]

Power limits, voltage, freq / mem offsets ?

[prime jasper]

i only

maxed gpu clock and memory clock

[steep gust]

yeah

So that will never work

Period

even under LN2

[prime jasper]

there is gpu voltage and power limit thing

[steep gust]

Max the power limit

Leave voltage alone for now

and download Superposition to stress test

[prime jasper]

power limit is %0

should i make it 100

[steep gust]

max the slider, increase the core freq by 25 or so till its unstable

then go down until its stable again

Test in games

[supple bane]

I would just watch a video on it

jaystwocents has a good one

[steep gust]

yeah overclocking videos have a bunch of questionable information sometimes

[prime jasper]

power limit's max is %50

[supple bane]

I followed his steps and I haven’t had a crash from it yet and I have gained like 10 FPS in some areas

[steep gust]

It will be +50%

Not 50% of total TDP

Unless you forgot to plug something in

[prime jasper]

there is -50 too

%0 is in the middle of the bar

[steep gust]

yeah so its an offset

[prime jasper]

i think i should watch a video :D

[steep gust]

You want that maxed if you can keep it cool

[prime jasper]

hm

get it

[steep gust]

Yeah I would watch Jays video

I do recommend Superposition over Heaven benchmark tho

You will learn in games quickly enough if Heaven didn't stress enough I guess

[prime jasper]

i did furmark

[steep gust]

Don't

FurMark causes you to just slam into the power limit

So frequency will drop

Also can cause some VRM issues

[prime jasper]

oh.

[steep gust]

Now if you didn't buy the cheapest possible card your VRM should be fine within stock overclocking

[prime jasper]

i got sapphire nitro+ rx 590

[steep gust]

but FurMark on a custom BIOS can easily cook cheaper cards VRM

Since they aren't built to handle like 350 amps constantly

That card looks fine

[prime jasper]

Now i am going to do heaven benchmark thing

[steep gust]

Not the greatest cooler

but should be fine for someone not going hardcore

[prime jasper]

It's a good partner for ryzen 2600

I am curious about navi series

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHALv7fpb54

[steep gust]

requires 6 pin

nice

[latent light]

this launch is almost as bad as the gt 1030 ddr4

[storm osprey]

thats rough

and sadly people will buy it

[steep gust]

well the gt1030 ddr4 was ok

because it was super cheap

and did its job

of being able to display a monitor while being passive

[latent light]

Navi will show 2080 performance on a 75W card 💪

bad time for memes

[prime jasper]

but its always a great time for memes

" No power connecter is this things only saving grace. So, good for you, Optiplex gamers. " lel

[latent light]

there's 1650 models that require a 6-pin

no one should be buying RX 570s or 1650/1660s right now because Navi is close

🤷

[supple bane]

why do i never hear about these things ?... i feel the uk doesnt get any news about tech stuff

i only found out about the 16 series on the day they released

[warm junco]

The 1650 looks like a joke

[forest token]

nvidia is desperate? they have like 80% of the market

amd isn't competitive

[latent light]

even though AMD is better in the sub $200 market, people will still buy 1050 Ti and 1650

it doesn't matter if AMD competes or not

people will still buy Nvidia

even if AMD had a card that was 50% faster than the 2080 Ti and cost half as much

[grizzled apex]

It is pretty competitive. If nvidia loses customers to AMD in terms of its graphics cards, it’s stock value will go down pretty hard since their product will become more and more unpopular. Not saying it won’t entirely but at 350$ just to get raytracing for a game like battlefield? It’s a bit much

Especially since at the way the market demands, things should be becoming cheaper, not more expensive

[steep gust]

rofl

phones show that if one company charges more

everyone will

So yeah fuck you apple

[grizzled apex]

^

Apple used to be a good company... until you realize capitalism makes it so that companies can become stronger and stronger the more obscure you are to seeing the want your money

[little comet]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137256

any good for running battlefield at low-medium settings?

specifically bf1

probably not buying right now, more likely in the future or in the summer

[grizzled apex]

Depends, what is your system specs?

[little comet]

well I know I have a shit CPU

so I plan on trying to find an upgrade to it

AMD phenom 1090t

like 10 years old

[grizzled apex]

Mother of god

[little comet]

I forget my power supply

sorry I'm not very computer

[grizzled apex]

Yeah... I think it’s time you save for MORE than just a new GPU

[little comet]

is RX 570 good?

[grizzled apex]

Like a new... everything

I mean it’s good but that CPU will bottleneck the hell out of it

[little comet]

any good relatively low budget CPUs

preferably sub or around $200?

[steep gust]

didn't you ask this before?

[grizzled apex]

I’d try the Ryzen 5 2600

[little comet]

yeah

[steep gust]

I know someone with a Phenom asked before

[little comet]

I think it was me

[grizzled apex]

Which requires not only a new motherboard but also ram

[steep gust]

I would wait for Zen 2 to come out to drop the Zen prices

[little comet]

you responded with an omegalul

[grizzled apex]

A phenom in 2019

[steep gust]

Then looked for a used 1700 / 1700x / 2600 / 2600x

[grizzled apex]

I mean still, a 2600 is still pretty good

[steep gust]

and yeah you waited 10 years already

[little comet]

newegg a good site?

[steep gust]

What is a few more months

ye newegg is nice

[grizzled apex]

Most of the time. Summer is a good consumer month

[little comet]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113497

that one?

[grizzled apex]

I’d also watch for DIY combos too. Saves a lot

[latent light]

RX 570 is amazing in battlefield games

beats a 1060 6GB

[grizzled apex]

I mean if you can afford it, go for it but buying a rysen chip will require new ram and a motherboard

[little comet]

hmm

how much total price would you say?

[grizzled apex]

Especially since the phenom is over 10 years old

[little comet]

yeah

thats what my friend said

[grizzled apex]

Try the bundles and see a price that works for you

[little comet]

he kinda recently got into PCs

he spent $2500 on his PC lol

[grizzled apex]

That’s pretty good

That’s about right for a mid-high end system

[little comet]

but he said his graphics card cost almost $750

[grizzled apex]

I’m on an I7 and it’s getting to that point with 4Th gen I7 cpus are getting obsolete

[little comet]

he also is giving me his cooling system

[grizzled apex]

750$ gpu? WTH he buy? Founder rtx 2080 ti?

[little comet]

in terms of price its roughly Cooling<PSU<motherboard<GPU<CPU right?

I think yeah

or 2060

a really recent one

so I think that an RX 570 will probably be a bit better for me

[steep gust]

I paid $650 for a 1080

[grizzled apex]

Eh, you can kind of skip on a expensive motherboard unless your overclocking or planning to expand. The cpu, and gpu are the most important

[steep gust]

$750 for a GPU is normal for highend machines

[grizzled apex]

280$ for a 1660 ti

That’s the sweet spot

[steep gust]

Get 16GB of RAM

[little comet]

it can be really low for RX 570 right?

[steep gust]

Should be like $80 for 16GB nowadays

[grizzled apex]

For that price, you can’t beat it

[little comet]

thats the kinda low budget reliable one

[grizzled apex]

Rams getting cheap again.

[steep gust]

RAM is sometimes getting to the cheapest its ever been

[grizzled apex]

I remember ram getting expensive into the 80$ for a 8gb stick

[little comet]

also my graphics card is GTS 450

[steep gust]

I paid $170 for 16GB 3000 16-18-18-36 in December 2017

[grizzled apex]

[steep gust]

I can find that same kit

for probably $90

if that

[grizzled apex]

True

[little comet]

GTS 450 is really bad yes?

[steep gust]

and that was "cheap"

yes

[little comet]

do you know how much power?

I forget my PSU

[steep gust]

I would buy a new PSU

[little comet]

yeah

they aren't a whole lot right?

[steep gust]

It'll be like $60-80 for a good one

If you want modularity

[little comet]

ok

[steep gust]

You will only need 550w

Hell you could get away with a 350w but they don't really sell them

[grizzled apex]

Honestly a good system would be a Rysen 5 2600, an rx 570 and 16gb of ram plus a SSD if you can budget it

[little comet]

sorry to ask stupid questions, but are PSU,GPU,CPU,motherboard,RAM, and Cooling, and shell all the parts of a PC?

[steep gust]

yes

and storage

[little comet]

yeah

but storage doesn't really need to be updated does it?

[steep gust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/X77Ycf/great-amd-gamingstreaming-build this is a good start

You have a what

[grizzled apex]

SSDs are becoming fairly cheap

[steep gust]

SATA 1 drive?

I mean 10 years ago a 1TB HDD was a lot

[grizzled apex]

Can go to MC and get a 240gb SSD for 25$

Now a TB HDD is like 40$

[little comet]

where do I check how much storage?

[steep gust]

That is personal choice

if you mean what you current hardware has

[grizzled apex]

You can check in your systems files under my computer

[little comet]

hmm

[steep gust]

go to >this pc in file explorer

[little comet]

acording to file explorer it says 1.81 TB

[grizzled apex]

...

[little comet]

OSDisk

[steep gust]

Its probably an HDD still

[grizzled apex]

That’s... a bit overkill

[steep gust]

So you will want an SSD

[grizzled apex]

2Tb hard drive?

[steep gust]

and probably Win10 if you aren't

[little comet]

yeah

I'm on Win 7 right no

[grizzled apex]

Yeah, keeping HDDs around are nice as they significantly increase losing times by as much as 33%

[little comet]

and also I think Its not updated

[grizzled apex]

Windows 7 was the best OS to exist

[steep gust]

meh

[little comet]

so I really should deal with that

[steep gust]

Win7 had its issue

[little comet]

I don't have a code

[steep gust]

and its telemetry

[little comet]

If I don't have to, I would rather not upgrade to 10

[grizzled apex]

Wait... it doesn’t have a license

[steep gust]

Well Win10 is only like $100 for 10+ years of support

[little comet]

yeah lol

I think it must be infested with viruses

[grizzled apex]

Or just buy a key online

[steep gust]

and you can strip win10 and make it look like win7 easy

no key resellers

[grizzled apex]

Also anti virus software is pretty cheap too

[steep gust]

big legal gray area that is leaning more towards illegal

[grizzled apex]

Whops

crap, I hear the fbi at my door I’ll be back... not

[steep gust]

KGB open up

[little comet]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819113496
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137256

what kind of power supply would I need for those 2

[steep gust]

It will draw like

[grizzled apex]

A good sweet spot is 600w

[steep gust]

350-400w at max load across both CPU and GPU when overclocked

I would go with 550w

[grizzled apex]

550W is pretty uncommon though

[steep gust]

eh not really

Or at least not anymore

[little comet]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139229&Description=550W&cm_re=550W-_-17-139-229-_-Product

hows that

[grizzled apex]

It’s a good thing to note that having extra Power left ina. PSU allows you to power up things like the fans, motherboard and the hard drives

[steep gust]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/ @little comet use this

[grizzled apex]

It’s a good non modular one

[little comet]

and 60 dollars

[grizzled apex]

You want one that’s certified though

At least bronze

[steep gust]

80+ certified isn't a quality standard

fyi

but yeah every decent PSU is 80+ bronze at a min

[little comet]

whats that mean?

[grizzled apex]

Corsair is a good company, EVGA as well makes good power supplies

[steep gust]

Its an efficiency rating

[grizzled apex]

Means the efficiency of the power deliver to the system

[little comet]

for not destroying the environment kinda thing?

[grizzled apex]

The supply’s will only use the maximum power to keep the system going

[steep gust]

a PSU will only supply what is being drawn ^

[little comet]

ah ok

so it doesn't matter if I go overkill

I'm just wasting money

[steep gust]

yeah but it cost more

and if you go too overkill it can harm the psu

because if you only draw 200w on a 1600w PSU its doing a lot of work to get it that low

[grizzled apex]

Having more power in a system is good if you want to add another hard drive or upgrade a new part

[steep gust]

HDDs don't draw much power

[little comet]

hard drive = memory?

[grizzled apex]

Hard drive is a storage drive

[steep gust]

and you will never be under max CPU + GPU + HDD load

[grizzled apex]

Memory is completely different

Memory takes the processes the processor takes and storages it temporarily in there and transfers that to the hard drive or the OS

[little comet]

well RAM is basically the really quick to access memory right?

[steep gust]

kinda

[grizzled apex]

Well, unless you system has a virus xD

[little comet]

and HDD is storage, as in all your files and shit

[steep gust]

https://www.lehigh.edu/~inimr/computer-basics-tutorial/ramvsdiskspacehtm.htm good enough

[grizzled apex]

shutters after having multipul on a MacBook 2002

[steep gust]

shutters in managing to get viruses

use ublock origin

[little comet]

RAM comes in the form of things you attach to your motherboard right?

[steep gust]

ye

[little comet]

little chips?

[grizzled apex]

More demanding tittles use more ram. Having more or faster ram, means more performance

[steep gust]

The chips are on the sticks

[little comet]

lmAo yoU doWnload Ram FroM the InteRnet

[grizzled apex]

They are DIMMs which are the offical name

[little comet]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[grizzled apex]

Jk

😛

[little comet]

yeah

[steep gust]

I could go into more detail about RAM but that is more than what most people care

[grizzled apex]

This is the tech channel right?

[little comet]

my friend has these really Xtreme™ looking ones

[steep gust]

RGB

[grizzled apex]

I mean write your heart out man

[steep gust]

yeah but like

compared to some people

i still know jackshit about RAM

I just have a "I know what it does and why it does"

Not a "How it does that"

[little comet]

so RAM is kinda shorter term stuff like your clip tray or stuff typed into a running document

[grizzled apex]

ah, so more a basic knowledge that a advanced knowledge of the subject

[steep gust]

Like I can explain most of the timings but how those timings do that is beyond me

because its fucking black magic

[little comet]

RAM is like your backpack, while HDD is like your shelfs at home

[steep gust]

if you lose everything on your backpack when you set it down

yes

[grizzled apex]

That’s one weird analogy xD

But a good one at that

[little comet]

hmm ok

I get it

[latent light]

that's fucking weird, a low wattage system can damage a high end psu

[steep gust]

I would say RAM is like studying the night before

You can access the information for short term when its needed quickly

but beyond that its gone

[grizzled apex]

Ram is like hammering something. When you don’t have a hammer, nothing is running. If you hit a nail with a hammer, that simulates ram holding a task.

[steep gust]

"damage" is wrong in the sense it won't do anything quickly

[grizzled apex]

Until you put down the hammer

[little comet]

alrighty

[steep gust]

but its still not good to be running a ultra high wattage PSU at super low loads

[grizzled apex]

That’s and it doesn’t look good on your electric bill xD

[little comet]

so RX 570 pretty good GPU, AMD 2060 pretty good CPU, 16GB ram kinda cheap, I already am probably getting an ok Cooler

[latent light]

RX 570 nets around GTX 1660 performance in BFV

[steep gust]

the 2600(x) has a good stock cooler

[little comet]

550 ishW PSU

and thats about it

[steep gust]

You want an SSD

Its the biggest jump

[grizzled apex]

Unless your getting a cooler master cpu, I wouldn’t go with anything else

[little comet]

for storage?

[latent light]

500+ watt PSU, no more than 650 tbh

[steep gust]

yes

for your OS at a min

[little comet]

my friend said he learned it by watching PC build videos

[grizzled apex]

I mean ideally you could also find a motherboard with an M.2 slot

[steep gust]

Most do

[little comet]

but, being the strange person he is, he refuses to give me any suggestions for where to find them

[steep gust]

but NVMe cost too much to bother with on budget builds

[little comet]

any suggestions?

[steep gust]

for PC builds?

[little comet]

also SSD isn't entirely necessary right?

[steep gust]

PCPartPicker has a lot of guides

[grizzled apex]

It’s a storage slot that acts like SATA but it’s a smaller form factor and doesn’t require two cables and is much faster

[little comet]

just an improvement

[steep gust]

M.2 is a form factor

[grizzled apex]

Yeah, it’s a nice have

[steep gust]

not a speed rating

[little comet]

just a heads up I'm a teenager with around $400 from the one job I have very briefly worked in

so like

low budget hours

[steep gust]

I would say an SSD would net you some of the biggest overall improvement in daily usage

[grizzled apex]

As long as your not overclocking your fine

[steep gust]

Its almost summer

wash cars

[little comet]

I am hoping to get a job this summer

[steep gust]

or something

[grizzled apex]

Also I’m a college student so I feel your pain bro

[little comet]

college students have, like, negative money right?

[grizzled apex]

Somehow I was able to budget a 1660 ti

It’s not that bad first year

[steep gust]

lel I'm in school and am a athlete so I feel the pain

[grizzled apex]

3rd year... 🤯

[steep gust]

fucking waking up at 5am to not get back until 6pm

[little comet]

damn

[steep gust]

because morning and afternoon practices

[little comet]

I am basically unconscious from 7:00 to 7:20

[steep gust]

Makes getting a job 👌

[little comet]

when I'm supposed to get up - when I get up

[grizzled apex]

Wake up at 5, go home at 3 work for 5 hours until 9 and work until 11:30

Try that

[steep gust]

yeah well I was getting up to jump in a coldass pool

So I was very quickly awake

[grizzled apex]

All to upgrade a desktop

[little comet]

damn

[grizzled apex]

Yet somehow I ended up a computer nerd

[little comet]

sounds fun

[steep gust]

Y'all want to hear about the tech behind $400 swim suits

let me tell you it was worth it

[little comet]

I am kinda making the jump from private school to public school

[grizzled apex]

What does it do. Let you drink your own urine

[little comet]

private school was good for the first year or so

but then it collapsed

I would rather have gone to public last year and had the money go to a PC lol

[grizzled apex]

People don’t understand the stress of private school. You gotta teach these kids to grow up before they can learn

[steep gust]

It compresses pretty much everything in your thighs

while repelling water

[little comet]

yeah

[grizzled apex]

Otherwise they remain kids the rest of their life’s

[little comet]

going to public school was quite a jump

[steep gust]

like it doesn't absorb water at all which is trippy to get out of a pool

[little comet]

I did really bad first term

3 C+s

but then I made a comeback

[steep gust]

also fun fact

[grizzled apex]

😅

[steep gust]

$400 swim suits are hard af to get on

and people believe "smaller = better"

[little comet]

my socials mark went from 68 to 87

shitty canadian ww1 unit to kinda alright ww2 unit

[steep gust]

social marks in public school

[little comet]

I hate socials curriculum

I'm a bit too pationate about those kinda things

[steep gust]

oh social studies

[little comet]

but its all about Canada

[steep gust]

You should take AP US History

best high school class ever

[little comet]

you want to know how many canadians died in ww2?

[steep gust]

def won't make you want to die

[little comet]

around 40,000

you want to know how many chinese died?

[steep gust]

a lot

[little comet]

over 20,000,000

China wasn't even MENTIONED

[steep gust]

but WW2 got cool planes

[grizzled apex]

No one will ever understand how hard of a person you need to be. I’ve had my wallet stolen 4x, keys stolen once and beaten up 3 times and I have the scars to prove it. I ended up getting As and one b in high school and graduated as a high honor student

[steep gust]

so like

WW2 best world war

[little comet]

bro ww1 planes

ilya muromets

dreidecker

and airships too

[steep gust]

yeah but did WW1 have flying wings

[grizzled apex]

Now, I’m currently a gamer in college, getting by barely

[steep gust]

Negative so it wins on the tech side

[little comet]

did ww2 have airships?

[steep gust]

no

airships bad tech

[little comet]

airships are cool tho

[grizzled apex]

...unless you consider bombers airships

[steep gust]

yeah

[little comet]

I love them quite passionately

[steep gust]

until you consider

moving super slowly

in a massive target

Its why stealth bombers are big

[little comet]

no airship = lighter than air

passenger airships are awesome

[steep gust]

You won't hear a B12 until its already dropped its bombs

[little comet]

military not so much

I wish they were still around 😢

I have a model graf zeppelin in my room

[steep gust]

Like if you tried to use an airship as a bomber

you would hear in from really far away

and its super fucking obvious

[little comet]

that one served almost 10 years

[steep gust]

also can an airship ever go supersonic

no

[little comet]

as a passenger ship abviously

they suck as military vehicles of course

[steep gust]

Can we bring back the Concord

after I get rich (gotta get rich first)

I'd like to fly to Europe for lunch

The ideas of how to bring back supersonic passenger planes is neat

but I doubt it will work

cus fucking sound barrier

[little comet]

anyways

moving way back in time

[steep gust]

WW1 also had lame tanks

[little comet]

RX 570
AMD 2060
~550W power

good?

and you suggested 16GB ram too

[steep gust]

ye

also its a 2600

you will need a new motherboard

[latent light]

you could wait another month for next gen ryzen and gpu announcement

[little comet]

well I probably won't have it until the summer

[steep gust]

yeah I would wait

and just budget out as much as possible

[latent light]

yeah the new gen comes out in the summer

[little comet]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Skimlinks-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=12087162&PID=5431261&SID=31026X886738Xaeb48169cd2ee13f5d834b2d85fc69d7&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Skimlinks&cjevent=495457d9663f11e9801d02790a1c0e0f

thats the link I was given by a tech news ish kinda site

[steep gust]

You can go with a 4GB

a RX570 with 8GB of VRAM is kinda a waste

[little comet]

that one is a 4GB

for 130

[latent light]

https://www.windowscentral.com/new-razer-blade-15-mid-2019?utm_source=wc_fb&utm_medium=fb_link&utm_content=64252&utm_campaign=social&fbclid=IwAR226JZCjI1Pai2gDNqEAkj4HOhgyoaTOWN9dm9Yo4WJX8zIMHq0xWDaFM8

240hz on a laptop is just weird

[prime jasper]

wonder how long the battery will last in reals

[cosmic warren]

anyone know how to make this game launch

wont launch anymore.

is this server for technical support or sharing tech products lol?

[cosmic warren]

damn thank goodness I talked to EA advisors and they helped me figure it out after I told the guy to tell me what the last guy I spoked to a week ago told me to do lol

now my dumb bfv works yeS!

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI2XSQqasK4

[crude flint]

anyone used 430.39

nvidia drivers

[supple bane]

is it just me or does discord have a new theme

everything looks different

the writing looks like it stands out more and the vc cap has a different theme

kinda sad that im talking about that tbh

[humble prism]

@crude flint 🙋

[supple bane]

im in the process of downloading it rn

[crude flint]

Any good

[supple bane]

there isnt any difference

like all the drivers

[grizzled apex]

Now that’s sad

[cosmic warren]

still waiting for gtx 1650 ti

bb

[grizzled apex]

896 cuda cores

[cosmic warren]

1060 3gb or maybe better than rx 570 performance. But the price probably won't be worth it I'm only happy about it because the 1650 ti SFF will be good for SFF builds

[grizzled apex]

That performance gap is terrible

Its more expensive than an RX570 but costs more

[supple bane]

the 1650 is just everything about it

crap

there isnt a single thing that is good about it

its super expensive for what it is, it is super weak,

and many more

also, that just shows how much difference the cpu makes on bf, i would never dream of getting fps like that on ultra

all because my cpu is pants

[brittle talon]

I don't even understand the diagram

what does 100 1% mean

[supple bane]

dont pay attention to that, just look at the average fps

so the vega 64 will get 131 fps on average on ultra

[brittle talon]

My problem is way bigger than average fps anyways 🙃

[supple bane]

whats your problem ?

[grizzled apex]

@brittle talon that 1% on the graph is the minimum FPS they saw on their test bench, that is 1% of the time

[brittle talon]

Mmh I see thank ya

I can't even run BFV at the minimum settings, that's my problem

[grizzled apex]

I know that feeling. I remember trying to run bf1 on a 750 ti

1 bad idea later

[supple bane]

@brittle talon if you are super desperate to play bfv, just lower the resolution all the way down to the bottom, that should make it play able on almost every system that is decently new

[prime jasper]

put the game on a SSD

you can drop screen resolution to 1380 x 768

drop the game resolution to 50%

set up the GPU to use tearing or ripping frames

set up the pre rendered frames to 4

absolutely kill any programs / processes using GPU/CPU

never thought to try that sort of setup. but at that point I'd rather just use a console lol

[supple bane]

^

or just not play games, go for a run in your spare time or something

[prime jasper]

just saying its possible

[supple bane]

i mean, im pretty sure you could play bfv without a gpu if you do all that

provided your cpu is semi decent

[prime jasper]

yeah

also for any GPU its very good practice to do a clean reboot before starting the game

all of those practices will lessen bottlenecks

[supple bane]

would be nice for someone to make something that allows you to use the apu as well as the gpu in like an sli sort of format, wont do much but it would be a nice little push

[bright sigil]

can anyone help me

[supple bane]

whats up ?

[bright sigil]

i have 1050gtx, 8 ram, i5 7300HQ and i have 40 - 45 in medium settings

i cant play will

and sometimes i got 30

[supple bane]

thats about right for those specs

and only thing you can really do is go to low

lower the resolution to 720p

[bright sigil]

but i cant see anyone

if i do it low

[supple bane]

you can on those resolutions

the lower you go the easier it is to see people

or

try this

play on 60 htz and lower your fov

fov is a killer for frames

and finally make sure you are playing on dx 11

[bright sigil]

i have dx 12

is that okay

or put it on dx 11

[supple bane]

with a 1050 you are going to want dx 11

i think

also monitor your temps, laptops are known for getting hot, so your laptop may be thermal throttling

[bright sigil]

mine i soo cold

[supple bane]

what is it in degrees tho ?

both gpu and cpu

[bright sigil]

i cant choose dx 11

it says enable dx 12

yes or no

[supple bane]

ye ur on dx 11 then

lower your fov

and then put everything on low/off

that should put you up to like 50 fps

[bright sigil]

its so hard to play with 720

[supple bane]

as far as im aware that is below the recommended specs specs so there isnt anything you can do about it

[bright sigil]

i cant see where is the fov

[supple bane]

video

then field of view

[bright sigil]

make it what

[supple bane]

dont put it on the lowest

just lower it by like 10

and if thats not enough go down another 10

and still not enough then you are just gonna have to live with it or lower your resolution

Make sure your on low

[bright sigil]

its low already

[supple bane]

ok

try with that then

[bright sigil]

i did every thing let me try

i did 1400 x 1050

is that okay

[supple bane]

should be

let me know what fps you get now

[bright sigil]

i got 70

[supple bane]

ahh there you go

[bright sigil]

thanks

i played the story

let me try it online

[supple bane]

you could try to up your resolution a little as well if you would like it to look a bit nicer

also, enable future frame rendering

that will give you more performance

[bright sigil]

i did

[supple bane]

cool

[bright sigil]

i do it 200

enable future frame rendering where is it

[supple bane]

video.

then advanced

[bright sigil]

is it the frames limit

[supple bane]

no

go to video

then at the top press advanced

and its the 6th one down

[bright sigil]

i make it ultra

[supple bane]

eh?

no

ok, im gonna call you and screen share with you to show you were it is

dude why didnt you say....

[bright sigil]

iam SRY

i thought its the same

[supple bane]

this is a bfv chat, so i just assumed you were playing bfv

well i dont know much about optimising bf1 so i would just recommend staying with what you have

70 fps is enough

[bright sigil]

thanks for helping me

[supple bane]

np

[bright sigil]

do you have bf1 chat

[supple bane]

if you want to talk about it, if you go to #battlefield-legacy-titles then thats fine as im pretty sure thats for all of the bf games, and if you want to play with people use #lfg-pc to ask for people, just say something along the lines of what imma put below

pc
europe
bf 1
bf1 squad 2 voice chat

[bright sigil]

thanks very much

[supple bane]

no problem

[bright sigil]

😍

[supple bane]

im inventive !

i noticed my hand was getting super sweaty on my mouse

so i took one of the panels off the top

now my palm can breath, the mouse is lighter in weight, and it still works fine and is just as ergonomic as before

its a win win

[bright sigil]

what mouse do you have

[supple bane]

tecknet raptor pro

its the best cheap mouse on the market

and imo its the best mouse ever made

i have played with 200 dollar< mouse, and i would take this one every day

[bright sigil]

i have logitech 502

[bold shell]

g502 isn't bad as well

if you have right DPI and you have right sens, its perfect for flicks

[bright sigil]

man its so hard to kill people with lower ping

[bold shell]

its not that bad

[bright sigil]

iam playing with 140 ping

[bold shell]

oof

I sometimes play at 80-100 ping on east servers

west servers too toxic > : (

[bright sigil]

iam eu

[bold shell]

oof

[supple bane]

well i did get 15 ping constantly but then they got rid of the uk servers

so that has doubled

[bold shell]

oof

[bright sigil]

how can i find my right dpi and sens

[bold shell]

I use 550 DPI

[bright sigil]

with logitech 502

me 1000

[bold shell]

Slower is better for some people, but if you want faster, you can go with 1200 DPI with low sens in-game

[bright sigil]

i do that

1000 in my mic and 31 in the game

[bold shell]

the current settings I have rn are perfect for me lol

550 DPI like I said for me, and I think a bit of high sens

[bright sigil]

i want to get new aim but i dont know to set that

[bold shell]

wdym by new aim?

[bright sigil]

sry, i mean to find a perfect dpi and sens

[bold shell]

ohhh

Just experiment with DPI settings and in-game settings

its all about finding the right settings and feel for you

[supple bane]

once you found one tho

dont change it

[bold shell]

keep it like that

[supple bane]

its one of the worst things you can do

keep changing it i mean

[bright sigil]

with assault its good but with snipers its to fast

i cant hit my enemy with sniper

but in any game else its to easy

idk why

iam reinstalling the game

2:30 hours to finish downloading

do you know how to get new weapons

fast

[bold shell]

ez

[finite torrent]

@bright sigil play the game

[bold shell]

that, and follow the lines easiest to do

never go for middle (unless it's a fairly easy one to do)

especially with this Tide of War chapter, the middle line is just bad

get 1,500 dmg with sidearms -.-

[prime jasper]

you can do stupid things like that in CA

[bright sigil]

ok

thanks

[storm osprey]

g502 is a general gaming mouse, its not an fps mouse

and ideally the best depends on a couple of things, but generally the lowest you can go comfortable (and do at least a 180 with a natural swipe) is considered the "best"

i set up ever game the same, about 19 inches to do a 360 in game

[supple bane]

also you said that i have a fast sensitivity. my friend plays on 2400 dpi and an ingame sensitive of 10

[storm osprey]

idk what that equates to, but that sounds absurdly high

[supple bane]

he also has stupid good aim

like, he gets accused of cheating alot

[storm osprey]

whats his resolution?

[supple bane]

a.) what does that have to do with things,
b.) i dont have a foocking clue

im gonna guess 1080p

[storm osprey]

resolution changes with dpi

[supple bane]

eh?

why ?

[storm osprey]

https://superuser.com/questions/769955/relationship-between-mouse-dpi-screen-resolution-and-screen-size

[supple bane]

ahhhh

that makes sense

[storm osprey]

so for example, i have a 1440p monitor, so my dpi is 800, when i played at 1080p i used 400 dpi

400 dpi at 1440p was unbearably slow on desktop

[prime jasper]

lol yes it is

[prime jasper]

!lfg

[junior plover]

:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[storm osprey]

already taken care of

[prime jasper]

this aint gonna last long https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131745&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Video+Cards+-+AMD%2FATI-_-N82E16814131745&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl8aBYh2918AimqALetghvo_VWYA6f_Cu_TziisO-clhn_RSz1z5rd4aApjiEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

vega 64 LC for 350

Should I change my graphics card to high power management? In the nvida settings

[grizzled apex]

Yes, your gpu May notice a small but noticeable performance boost

[prime jasper]

Ok done

[grizzled apex]

XD

[prime jasper]

I want 7nm

[steep gust]

pro tip

"Xnm" is not a performance marker

[grizzled apex]

It’s just the size of the chip under he heatsink

[steep gust]

Its just a number given

10nm is the next big jump in architecture and manufacturing from 14nm

that isn't a refinement

[grizzled apex]

Still. Just to think, we will go from technology that’s this size to in the next 10 years smaller than a thumbnail

[steep gust]

I mean

The actually die area on CPUs

is like the size of your thumbnail

The silicon above it is just to protect the die

Since it can't be 3D

yet.

[cosmic warren]

yeah my computer I assume is having ram issues hence why BFV keeps fucking crashing and pretty much every other game I attempt to play.

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-lisa-su-50th-anniversary-2700x,39165.html

[lofty light]

Not sure how I feel about that

I finally got around to buying a domain to point to my privately hosted christian minecraft server, any pointers for making sure I don't accidently give the world my IP?

[delicate igloo]

Give the ip to people, let them experience the christianity

If it’s private you won’t gain anymore christian followers

[lofty light]

That's true I guess

[prime jasper]

Hey tech lords

[grizzled apex]

👋

[prime jasper]

howdy

[slate rivet]

awkward meeting at 4...

[supple bane]

eh?

[slate rivet]

got to be in a meeting where we sack someone.. me and 1 other person... oh joys

oh this is tech

[supple bane]

ye thats why i was confused

[grizzled apex]

I’d sack nvidia for their obvious cash grand cough 1650 sucks ass cough

[prime jasper]

basically the replacement for the gt1030 as it doesnt require a 6pin on some models

Bro how much Nvidia rtx2080ti cost?
In over country it's 750$.
Don't know about US

thats really, REALLY cheap for a 2080ti

minimum 1k here

Why US sucks?

supply and demand is a bitch. people keeping buying them so the prices stay up

[supple bane]

what would be the best way to get windows on the pc im going to build my dad ?

should i make a boot drive from my pc and then go buy an activation code ?

or is there a better way ?

[storm osprey]

i personally have a students copy of windows on disc that i install onto new comps

can just activate it later

[supple bane]

but i dont have a disk reader...

[storm osprey]

havent done usb, but im sure its not hard

[prime jasper]

yeah making bootable USBs from .iso isnt hard at all

[lofty light]

Who needs to activate tbh

But I have a couple of USBs I've made from an ISO using cmd

[storm osprey]

i activated my main pc when it went on sale

havent on my front room build though...

[prime jasper]

Bill Gates would like to know your location

I have pirated version of Windows

Just download KM Spico and Activate your Windows

I'm not advertising any app, I'm just helping

[violet plank]

https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-mobile-cpu-roadmap-leak-14nm-comet-lake-10nm-ice-lake-tiger-lake/

lmao

no 10nm til 2022

[prime jasper]

another coffee lake refresh at the end of this year? yikes

Really?

Just a small upgrade.i know

[latent light]

I thought 10nm would be out next year lol

some leaks say 10nm mobile chips come out this year

[prime jasper]

AMD is building thier 7nm chip while Intel is stuck with 14nm

10nm mobile chips are already out...as the i3

Does Intel processors support 5G in mobiles?

[violet plank]

no

they never will,they gave up that stuff

[prime jasper]

I heard that Apple buying processors from intel

Bad news for Apple if Intel processors doesn't support 5G.

[prime jasper]

hi
Is theris supporters for Bf3 here?
hi
Is theris supporters for Bf3/Multiplayer servers here?

@prime jasper No.

!support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[finite torrent]

@prime jasper I don't think that's what he meant

[prime jasper]

!warn 568411533953204224 [DM] You are being rude and inappropriate, furthermore you do not tell people looking for help in this channel to "get off" This is your final warning to obey our rules.

[junior plover]

:ok_hand: warned Afridi#3926 ([DM] You are being rude and inappropriate, furthermore you do not tell people looking for help in this channel to "get off" This is your final warning to obey our rules.) - The user has been messaged in English.

[prime jasper]

!r2

[junior plover]

:information_source: Rule 2

Keep it appropriate. Includes, but is not limited to: No hate speech, insults, abuse, threats, offensive/sexually explicit content. No religious/political discussion & platform bashing.

[prime jasper]

!r4

[junior plover]

:information_source: Rule 4

Be polite and kind. Respect others if they have a different opinion. If you disagree with someone, you are free to do so politely, but don't make it personal and become hostile.

[finite torrent]

Damn you got your hammer ready dont ya @prime jasper

[prime jasper]

Got em

Sorry

[grizzled apex]

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper I am teen and immature

[finite torrent]

I'm a teen but I'm pretty mature.

[prime jasper]

Is Celestine black a bot?

no I am not

Then why you don't understand me?

[finite torrent]

Maybe Because your grammar sucks

And nothing you say makes much sense.

[prime jasper]

I'm Asian

[finite torrent]

[prime jasper]

😢

Why I'm still here,just to suffer

[finite torrent]

Idk why you are still here either

[prime jasper]

im not going to discuss this here, just play it cool and you will be fine, obey the rules.

[finite torrent]

OBEY OR BE PURGED IN THE HOLY FLAMES aka get banned/muted.

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper I think you have a stone heart

[finite torrent]

I wouldn't say stuff like that.

[prime jasper]

I got banned from many servers just because I have kids behavior

[finite torrent]

Then stop.

[grizzled apex]

can we keep this on the subject of technology please?

[prime jasper]

if I have a stone heart then why do I keep giving you a chance?

[grizzled apex]

just to stop this from turning uninto a general discussion?

[prime jasper]

Ok I'll be careful next time, please don't warn me, please

anyway please stop this, leave it, learn the lesson, this was your final warning

[grizzled apex]

so excited for 10nm rysen 3000

how about that 8 core rysen 5 3600

[finite torrent]

Really

[grizzled apex]

what? its hard for me to change subjects 😛

also, apparently asus laptop chargers have a tendency to get hot after only 10 minutes of usage

its like a personal space heater

[finite torrent]

[grizzled apex]

macbook chargers be like, im bigger than one power slot

[finite torrent]

[odd burrow]

Is this for getting help for techincal things about BF?

[finite torrent]

Anything tech related so yes.

[odd burrow]

Basically

When I launch BF4 I get the WebHelper notification I accept it then nothing happens

BF4 won't launch no sign of it

[finite torrent]

@grizzled apex your good at this stuff

[grizzled apex]

?

[finite torrent]

↑↑

[grizzled apex]

??

[finite torrent]

Someone has a problem

[grizzled apex]

oh, xD

[finite torrent]

Yaaaaaay

[grizzled apex]

i was a bit confused on this

😛

im in the middle of class so give me some time

[finite torrent]

Sorry for the confusion

@odd burrow

Just give big E a bit and he can help you

[grizzled apex]

is he trying to run the game through the in game launcher or through the website?

[odd burrow]

Man I uninstalled Origin the hard way like I wanted a empty slate and BF4 too

[finite torrent]

Idk this 100% you now.

[odd burrow]

I was hoping to get the new server tab not the web

[grizzled apex]

shrug

[odd burrow]

Man it's a long story

I can't play BF4 because of this for a year now

[grizzled apex]

just let it all out man, ill see what i can figure out but im trying to type notes for class as well, give me about 20-40 minutes please

im very busy with this being the end of the college semester and having a laptop charger thats on the verge of blowing up

[odd burrow]

BigE thanks man. You can do your work. I appreciate it

I will try my luck in EA chat support

Then if i still have a progblem

I'll come here.

I know the feeling of the school work man no way im asking help now hah

[grizzled apex]

ill say this for the time being, have you tried the following:

try to delete the game files folder and reinstall it

try to repair the game?

check your internet drivers

[odd burrow]

Internet drivers. No.

Every error I have in all games

[grizzled apex]

it could be an outdated driver

[odd burrow]

It says on the internet check your drivers. It's never been a problem with my drivers in my life

But ill check thanks

[grizzled apex]

you could try a speed test on a web browser

if the issue is internet related, it could be the internet dying

[odd burrow]

Alright Biggy E

I will try it

[storm osprey]

biggy e

i love it

[grizzled apex]

i should change my name to that later

when your so tired from typing essays you slur words in discord 😛

👍

[finite torrent]

Big eazy

[latent light]

supposedly Intel is going to stick with 14nm into 2021

[grizzled apex]

@odd burrow how did it go?

[latent light]

Tiger Lake 10nm in 2021

[prime jasper]

what happened to cannon lake?

[latent light]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3391210/upgrade-your-pcs-graphics-with-the-overclocked-sapphire-radeon-pulse-rx-vega-56-for-300.html

[prime jasper]

same price as a vega 64 reference now

[steep gust]

@latent light That could easily be a 'leak'

that is fake

Since its Sunny Cove

[latent sapphire]

Idk if this is the channel to complain about it but BFV either doesn't launch or takes like 30 minutes to load one map even after I just repaired the game

[storm osprey]

no other games having this problem?

[supple bane]

is the game on a really old hdd ?

[steep gust]

even then

unless its dying

Try a fresh install

[storm osprey]

well if other games on the same drive load slow, id suspect drive

[steep gust]

Repairing just checks to make sure all the files are there

[latent sapphire]

I'll see before I go to work

Or rather after I get back

[grizzled apex]

I mean your the mod, shouldn’t you know that? XD

[supple bane]

just a question, is it bad that i dont have a clue what all the different lakes mean with intel, like i dont what they actually mean ?

[prime jasper]

its just code names for the 'families' of processors

so if somebody says kaby lake, you know they mean 7th gen. Sky lake is 6th gen...etc

[supple bane]

oooooh

ok

well i have no idea which lake matches to which gen

[storm osprey]

yea neither do i

[supple bane]

i think ill just stick with saying 7th or 8th gen or what ever

[storm osprey]

^

i honestly think people go with their code naming or whatever its called to try to be cool

[prime jasper]

just like how AMD calls their Zen chipset 'promontory'...just a fancy word

[supple bane]

the letters that intel use is stupid as well

like why does there have to be so many

[prime jasper]

different designations for different types of chips
C – Desktop processor based on the LGA 1150 package with high performance graphics
H – High performance graphics
K – Unlocked
M – Mobile
Q – Quad-core
R – Desktop processor based on BGA1364 (mobile) package with high performance graphics
S – Performance-optimized lifestyle
T – Power-optimized lifestyle
U – Ultra-low power
X – Extreme edition
Y – Extremely low power

[storm osprey]

where is F?

[prime jasper]

F is without igpu

[supple bane]

like why is Y extreamly low power

at least some of them actually match to what they mean

that is just random

[prime jasper]

AMD used the E suffix some time ago for their low power chips

8320e for example

[supple bane]

they should just give it a name, like a normal name, and then have the power usage in the description and stuff, instead of confusing everyone with seemingly random letters

[steep gust]

nah its fine

@supple bane Its the generation names for X lake

The past 4 have had lake

That 'roadmap' going around

Doesn't have Coffeelake-R which is the current generation

and its only a support roadmap

not a product release

[odd burrow]

@grizzled apex MAN ITS WORKING BF4 IS WORKING FOR NO REASON HAHAHAHAH

[latent sapphire]

@grizzled apex no

I'm tech illiterate