technology

[prime jasper]

i remember ive stopped playing bf1 when pubg came out, and then when ive returned few months later, that thing happened

and i couldnt be bothered to play on shit fps so i just stopped again, but now i kinda miss it and really want to play it

but whenever i try its just so.. yikes

any other game runs like it should, bf3, bf4, battlefront, pubg, apex

but bf1

[steep gust]

disable vsync

Check the NVidia control panel

disable adaptive sync, and vsync if its there

Disable any frame sync if your monitor has it

[prime jasper]

its all disabled

[molten bramble]

Since the latest patch, a bunch of folks have been saying they're experiencing similar issues. I suspect it will get worked out at some point.

[prime jasper]

Yeah looking back at it, it’s a pretty silly question to even ask 🤦‍♂️

[grizzled apex]

i mean its a laptop, what did you expect?

Yay, my 1660 ti is coming tommorow!

[steep gust]

bet

usps is gonna send it away

[latent light]

@grizzled apex you got the black didn't you

[prime jasper]

dude

i just said that i didnt have any of those issues before

its just came out of nowhere

besides i doubt i will see any bf1 patch any time soon

i lowered my screen scale to 75%, works slightly better but now it looks like garbage

[grizzled apex]

Yes

It’s supposed to arrive at like 9PM tommorow... which is a bit late for a package

Plus my power supply might be in by tommorow too given

Being without a laptop in college is SO PAINFUL

[prime jasper]

back in my day...

[grizzled apex]

I had to lower my 1060 3gb to 80% resolution on low... yet somehow I’m still a god at BF5 given the other team isn’t cough unbalanced severely cough

[grizzled apex]

https://youtu.be/pNlkBNJpBq4

30 FPS on 10k that’s pretty good

Thanks again to whoever credited me to be trusted. ✌️

[flint locust]

😉

[grizzled apex]

😁

Still, pushing 30 FPS on 10k battlefield 4? That’s got to be some glorious gameplay

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/deepcools-new-liquid-cooler-has-anti-leak-tech-to-avoid-drenching-your-pc/?utm_content=buffer2e047&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb&fbclid=IwAR2txeNf4jSKbxoUbpU4LRo3qsVvbwdKgGB4_KS9WmNe7jmH6DKxzhuGfq0

[prime jasper]

Oh la la

Looks sexy

[grizzled apex]

Who would be interested in doing a comparison video? I will be comparing my old gtx 1060 3gb to my new 1660 ti 6gb by doing various tests involving gunfights, air based combat and tank based combats on a slightly larger scale

I’ve got to work on this mess this weekend

[prime jasper]

I don’t even bother working with the cable management. Too much work

[grizzled apex]

It’s not as bad as it looks but it’s still pretty bad

[prime jasper]

Mine is somewhat worst

[grizzled apex]

Oh no, I’ve got to fix it because I’ve almost pulled out my power cord more than a few times

Plus the inside of my pc needs loving too. The fans are getting very dusty too fast

That and I probably should have ordered thermal paste from amazon as well 😂

I barely used any moving my I7 from my old gigabyte board to the ASrock board

[storm osprey]

For dust cleaning don't buy canned air, get an xpwer air duster

[grizzled apex]

I just use a microfiber cloth

Gotta get the dust off and make sure it won’t accumulate back fast

I’m more worried about my hard drive fan, that thing gets too dusty, my computers gone

[prime jasper]

Do you have an air compressor?

[grizzled apex]

I do but it’s too high psi

I’d risk breaking the gpu if i tried to

Or something else sensitive

[latent light]

I got a big air compressor that lets me change the psi

[grizzled apex]

It’s an older 90s model

We have had it for a VERY long time

Since our house was built in 03’

The thing puts out over 16000PSI

And it’s so powerful that we have to put a secondary valve on the connector hose to prevent it from destroying itself

[steep gust]

Comparisons have been done

It wouldn't be very unique of a video

[grizzled apex]

What about with older hardware?

I don’t think I’ve seen one with an i7 4790k and 16gb DDR3 ram

[craggy bridge]

is anyone with a 1060 6gb and i5 6400 2.7 ghz getting to run their game smoothly with no frame rate drops?

i cant

any advice for how to get it to run smoothly?

[supple bane]

Try to change between dx 11 and dx 12

wait what game even ?

[jaunty sonnet]

Bfv probably

[supple bane]

bfv is a cpu intensive game and that isn’t the greatest cpu to ever hit the market, it might sound crazy but increasing the resolution might help you as that takes the strain of the cpu and puts it in the gpu, maybe try that

Also @grizzled apex you got the trusted role

[grizzled apex]

😄

[prime jasper]

hello

guys

[grizzled apex]

Hello

[latent light]

@craggy bridge that i5-6400 will have trouble with frame drops since it only has 4 cores and a fairly low clockspeed

[lucid pollen]

thats the base clock though

bfv needs moar cores

[grizzled apex]

Man DDR4 memory kits are cheap. I saw them go as low as 65$

[grizzled apex]

It’s here!

Can’t wait to try it out

[prime jasper]

single fan? might be loud

[storm osprey]

iirc its the evga black 1060ti which is the 3 slot single fan gpu

[supple bane]

Jesus amazon over there are good

they don’t do shit like that over here

If you not in they give it to the neighbours or they throw it over the fence

usually breaking it

[storm osprey]

give it to the neighbor? that doesnt sound.. legal

[minor turret]

hm i know aero in the past could force vsync if you ran in windowed border mode so that might explain it

[vale current]

Anyone here lives in frankfurt am main? Please pm me!! I need some information about high end computer/laptop local stores

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-super-power-power-gif-5051810

[latent light]

@grizzled apex my advise is not get too excited, you don't know if it's defective yet

[grizzled apex]

True, the box was a bit damaged at the corners but i have faith in it

[latent light]

man I hate having damage on boxes, I like collecting them

[grizzled apex]

At least amazon shows that the package was delivered and showed a picture

[latent light]

I collect CPU and GPU boxes

[thorn zephyr]

Does anyone know any decent external graphics cards

I'm looking at this mostly

https://www.amazon.com/XG-Station-PRO-Thunderbolt-External-Graphics-Space/dp/B07CP36KHH/?tag=amazongs-20

Price point is as high as it goes

Nothing ridiculous looking if possible

[latent light]

that's just a case

with a power supply

[thorn zephyr]

Yeah I'll grab a card too

[latent light]

what specs are your laptop

[thorn zephyr]

Asus Laptop UX550VE ZenBook Pro

1050ti

[latent light]

RX 570 or GTX 1060 would be a nice boost to performance

wouldn't recommend any card with over 150W TDP on that

[supple bane]

make sure not to get the 1060 3gb tho

[thorn zephyr]

Probably sticking with GTX stuff mostly

Yeah no low ram is a big red flag

[latent light]

get a GTX 1660 or a 1660Ti

[grizzled apex]

That is one THICC cooler

[latent light]

the 1060 looks better

[supple bane]

thats the exact card i have heh, the 1060 i mean

[thorn zephyr]

What about 1070 or the 20 series

[supple bane]

i dont think that the 1070 is worth it if the 1660ti is around

and if you want 20 series you gonna want 2070=<

[latent light]

that ASUS station has only a 330W power supply so I wouldn't suggest any card with over 150W tdp for it

RTX 2060 and under

[supple bane]

how come leaving such a huge gap ?

[latent light]

you don't want to get anywhere near your PSU max wattage

shortens its life

says in the specs "330W internal power supply delivers support for your graphics card and laptop/tablet"

[thorn zephyr]

So anything under 2060s including the new ones between 1050ti and whatever new numbers they've come up with

[latent light]

maybe you can power the laptop with the AC adapter that came with it without the power supply trying to power it

if both your laptop and the graphics card gets powered by that 330W psu, problems could occur

[thorn zephyr]

My current one for reference

[grizzled apex]

Well this is a great start

[latent light]

oof

[prime jasper]

Rip

[latent light]

did you uninstall the old drivers

[grizzled apex]

No

[latent light]

that's the issue

[grizzled apex]

Probably should have

:/

[latent light]

that's more important than the new card itself

xD

[grizzled apex]

It’s boring up at least

Booting

It was a memory crash thankfully

[latent light]

download Driver Display Uninstaller

[grizzled apex]

Which is leading now to my next issue xD

[latent light]

and let it boot you into safe mode

[grizzled apex]

At least nvidia recognizes the card

Now I got to be very patient

[latent light]

your system notices that it is certainly a graphics card

but because of your old drivers conflicting, it won't recognize what model it is

[grizzled apex]

At least I have GeForce experience

Just a quick clean driver install and I’m set

[latent light]

not going to uninstall the 1060 drivers?

[grizzled apex]

It booted into 600x900p for some reason

Probably because of my ignorance

[thorn zephyr]

@latent light you're gonna have to explain this whole power thing to me

I'm the least tech person possible

Saw this one review complaining about power delivery

[latent light]

get a 1660Ti and there will be no problems

[thorn zephyr]

No idea what that means

Aight

[latent light]

idk about RTX 2060 power consumption but I know it's a lot more than 1660Ti

[grizzled apex]

That’s good news right there

[prime jasper]

Yup

[grizzled apex]

At least GeForce recognizes the card

[thorn zephyr]

Yeah I just want things that'll last me a while

3 years preferably

By then the laptop is probably bust

[grizzled apex]

Too bad the 3gb 1060 wasn’t a 4gb, I would have kept it

[supple bane]

what difference does that 1gb make ?

[grizzled apex]

Pretty big for battlefield

Less stutter and more room for playing around with settings

[supple bane]

fair,

also @latent light you said that the ssd was only slightly faster than the hdd, now i have time to play around with it, windows boots so much faster now

and so do my games

im not having to wait around for as long basically

[storm osprey]

windows boot goes from like 1 minute to 20 seconds with an ssd

games just vary dramatically depending on the game

but generally, its not worth getting an ssd to replace an hdd for just games

[thorn zephyr]

Hm

I got 4 1660ti here

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAAS16601/ASUS-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-Dual-OC-6GB-GDDR6-Graphic
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAGBV12061/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX1660-Ti-Windforce-OC-6G-Gaming
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAEVG1263/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-XC-Gaming-6GB-GDDR6-Graph
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAAS16602/ASUS-ROG-Strix-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-OC-6GB-GDDR6-Gr

Which one should I pick

[storm osprey]

msrp 1060ti

[grizzled apex]

The evga one is very overbuilt so I’d get that one

[prime jasper]

I always go with EVGA

[storm osprey]

if youre market is like mine, getting an expensive 1060ti is close to a 2060, at that point, get a msrp 2060

[grizzled apex]

^

[thorn zephyr]

Only one fan though

[grizzled apex]

Is the 1060 ti the one with GDDR5x?

[storm osprey]

gigabyte has 2 fans

but yes, evga is the general gpu go to

[prime jasper]

But awesome customer service

[grizzled apex]

^

That and the cards look really nice

[thorn zephyr]

We don't have 1060ti here

Only 1060

[minor turret]

i dont think anyone in the world has a legit 1060ti

[storm osprey]

there is no 1060ti

[thorn zephyr]

Oh

[grizzled apex]

Is the 1060 ti the one with GDDR5X?

[thorn zephyr]

LOL

[grizzled apex]

I think I know what your talking about

The 1060 and 1060 ti do exist

1060 has GDDR5, while the 1060 ti has GDDR5X

[storm osprey]

if you hear anyone say 1060ti, they are probably word playing the scenario where newer 1060s are not the same as old 1060s

there is no official 1060 ti

[grizzled apex]

^

There is a Zotac 1060 on Newegg with 6gb of GDDR5X

For 219.99$

USd

[thorn zephyr]

I already have a 1050ti though

[minor turret]

1060 gddr5x is within 1% of 1060 performance from a quick look at benchmarks

[thorn zephyr]

Looking for something that'll last me a bit longer

[grizzled apex]

Go with the 1660 ti

[storm osprey]

a 1660ti will destroy a 1050ti

[grizzled apex]

It’s a 1070 at half the cost

[thorn zephyr]

Aight

[grizzled apex]

And better than actually

[thorn zephyr]

Saving up it is

[storm osprey]

just get the cheapest 1660ti you can, otherwise you should get a 2060

[grizzled apex]

I’d get it on amazon though if you can Newegg, sells it for like 289.99

[minor turret]

0.23% better performance than 1060 6gb in witcher 3

its literally the same card

[supple bane]

damn you kb!!! i just noticed that now i have an american layout kb there isnt any fooking pound signs

[minor turret]

performance wise

[supple bane]

so now if i want to say the price of something im going to have to look at the conversion then put dollar

cries in corner

[storm osprey]

or you can type "pound"

[supple bane]

oh ye

ur smort

[storm osprey]

[minor turret]

and funnily enough it does 2.7% worse than gtx 1060 6gb regular in bf1

[grizzled apex]

Hm, 60 FPS on high seems a bit off

[supple bane]

vsync?

[minor turret]

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/KFA2/GTX_1060_6_GB_GDDR5X/7.html

[supple bane]

i get better than that with my 1060 3gb

i think that you have something wrong there @grizzled apex

[grizzled apex]

Maybe

[supple bane]

what causes a gpu to under perform tho?

[grizzled apex]

It shows as a 1660 ti

[minor turret]

heat and cpu/ram bottleneck

[supple bane]

do you have dx 12 enabled now or something ?

[grizzled apex]

Nevermind it getting gmbetter, saw into the 100s

[supple bane]

maybe it was just something you looked at

also i cant get used to the smaller enter on the american kb reeeee

i always put \ at the end of my message, the uk layout has a much bigger enter key

i guess it will take time, because its not like i cant just get some new key caps because the keys are all differently shaped

[latent light]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/radeon_navi_gpu_specifications_leak/1

[supple bane]

does anyone know much about the tracker network and how to get up on the leaderboards?

[storm osprey]

for this server?

[supple bane]

when ever i click on join leaderboards it takes me to the geo page, i set my location and go back to the leaderboards and the join leader boards is back

no i mean the web site its self

there is like a leaderboards option

im just going to wait a bit, i saw a forum that says you have to wait 30 mins for your account to be verified or something like that, if it still isnt done after that i dont know what to do

[storm osprey]

i have no idea what youre talking about honestly xD

[supple bane]

ok dont worry about it

ill figure it out

[storm osprey]

so youre talking bftracker site?

[supple bane]

https://thetrackernetwork.com/

this

then on the bf tab theres a leader board...

[grizzled apex]

heres a quick peak of my gameplay test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXIjI-43ZpI

[storm osprey]

that takes you to bfvtracker

[supple bane]

yes ik that

wait, can i screen share with you to show you what i mean ?

[storm osprey]

DM me sure

[slim nova]

why does origin cripple my download to 2mb/s even tho i put no restriction in settings for download while running another game in origin?

[storm osprey]

origin sucks like that

[slim nova]

feelsbad

[supple bane]

its because thats mega bit not mega byte,

so in megabyte a second its like 16

if its not that then its you hdd that is bottle necking it

[latent light]

8 megabit = 1 megabyte

mbps = megabits per second
MB/s = megabytes per second

idk why they made this so complicated

[rigid knoll]

Mbps*

[eager owl]

Hey I have a question.

So, can I link my PS4 BF1 account to my PC so I have all my progress?

[supple bane]

i dont think so

because that would mean ps4 and ea would have to make some deal and ye, too complicated,

[eager owl]

reeeee

ok thanks,

i guess i have to start again on pc.

is the premium still free in bf1?

[prime jasper]

No

[storm osprey]

its 35 bucks for the game and premium

[prime jasper]

But I think it’s worth it

[supple bane]

why is it worth it ?

i would say it is 100% not worth itt

[storm osprey]

game is active still

thats a lot of game for 30 bucvks

[supple bane]

there isnt any point spending more money on something when you dont even get anything for it

[storm osprey]

but i got it for 10 xD

[supple bane]

oh bf1

oh yes it is worth is on bf1

100%

[solar pike]

i have this weird audio issue

where i can only hear the loudest sounds

and everything else works

spotify

earrapes on yt

[supple bane]

i have no idea what you are trying to say

[solar pike]

smh

i can only hear the loudest sounds in bf5

gun shots

my solider or nearby ones calling

and that's pretty much it

no bullets flying past me, no walking sounds, driving, etc

[supple bane]

update the audio drivers,

try a different headset

un-install re-install

[solar pike]

why would i

if it worked fine

[supple bane]

i had an audio bug and re-downloading it fixed it

[solar pike]

and now it just randomly mid game stopped working

[prime jasper]

troubleshooting, thats why

assuming you already did a reboot and such

[solar pike]

restarting the game worked

so weird

[steep gust]

bugs happen

[supple bane]

anyone know a way to make your mic louder without having to use boost ?

because my mic is like really quiet and if i make it louder it gets a fuzzy static background noise

only thing i can think of is just fuck it and get a snowball

[prime jasper]

is the mic fully turned up in windows sound settings?

[supple bane]

rolls eyes im not that dumb m8

XD

[prime jasper]

youd be surprised lol, especially since all these gaming mobos have their own audio enhancement suites and software

[steep gust]

Windows settings

might be a grain control tab

also use push to talk

[supple bane]

no

NEVER!!

[steep gust]

I know Discord cuts out static better than most games

[supple bane]

i try to use it but i always forget to use the push button and i end up talking to my self for ages before someone asks where i went

[steep gust]

well

the static will always be there

unless you greatly increase the "loudness" required to enable voice activity

forget the word

So that your mic shuts off and cuts out background noise

[prime jasper]

the input sensitivity perhaps

[steep gust]

yeah there you go

Forgot the name

[supple bane]

But sometimes I speak at different levels, like sometimes if I’m consecrating I almost mumble and it won’t trigger the input volume

[steep gust]

Then you need to learn to speak at the same volume

Trust me it fucking sucks to talk to someone who changes their volume a lot using a mic

Because you turn them up when they are quiet, then they get loud and rip ears

[supple bane]

if my mic didn’t suck ass I wouldn’t have to

all the reviews I saw before getting the headset said the mic was great so now I’m disappointed

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afs3nFd5eiE

[unborn pebble]

who cares, Sony even won't attend E3. It's finished

[latent light]

it will have 3rd gen Ryzen CPU with 8 cores

[unborn pebble]

Xbox is the way to go

[latent light]

xbox got no games

🤷

[unborn pebble]

what, so u gonna buy ps4 just for Detroit and Death Stranding?

[latent light]

well certainly not buying an xbox for sea of thieves

[unborn pebble]

this game is shit anyways

[latent light]

so far the PS5 is known to have a Ryzen 3000 series CPU with 8 cores, Navi GPU, and ray-tracing support

we don't know if it will have SSD storage

[prime jasper]

as if the Xbox wont be similar? we know they both are using Ryzen guts

[latent light]

yeah it will be similar

fast traveling in Spiderman took the PS4 Pro 15 seconds
it only took 0.8 seconds on the PS5

definitely an SSD

[prime jasper]

hopefully SSHD is the minimum on these things

[storm osprey]

did that dude really try to bring up detroit and death stranding?

the best xbox exclusive is cuphead. ohh wait...

[molten coral]

[lucid pollen]

lol

[latent light]

tbh, Xbox Two will probably have better hardware than the PS5

[lucid pollen]

maybe they will have nvmes for ssd storage

[storm osprey]

while thats cool, doesnt mean anything if it gives us crackdown 3 as an exclusive once a year

[latent light]

PS5 is rumored to be $500 USD on launch, each unit being sold at a $100 loss

[molten coral]

Would be cool to have the last of us 2 as starter game on the PS5.

[prime jasper]

doubtful they'll be willing to use nvme considering that would further raise the cost of the console. m.2 sata is more likely

[storm osprey]

^that would also piss me off though

TLOU as ps5 launch

[molten coral]

Well of course they are selling it at a loss.

They are making more profit on games and deals.

Was pretty much the same with the PS4

[prime jasper]

No way in hell there going to use nvme

[storm osprey]

that thought has passed my mind too, that tlou part 2 will be on ps5

[prime jasper]

If they did use nvme, they prob going to use it's cache for games

(Which actually helps)

Buts that's some custom shit

just like the ESRAM shit on the xbone lol

[storm osprey]

theres no way in hell they are jumping from hdd to nvme in 1 generation

[steep gust]

@latent light Imagine this

Rumors

are FUCKING wrong

99% of the time

The product hasn't even been announced yet

[latent light]

Playstation lead architect revealed it

[steep gust]

very little

[prime jasper]

I heard sony is teaming up with ryzen

[storm osprey]

consoles and AMD are pretty common connections

[latent light]

Xbox Two and PS5 are going to use 3rd gen Ryzen and Navi

[steep gust]

We knew that

like a year ago

[prime jasper]

*2 years ago

[steep gust]

even better

Also the load times mean nothing because if its an SSHD

They had it cached

[latent light]

if Mark Cerny reveals something, it's true

[prime jasper]

Wait..... this was officiall?

[steep gust]

Some of it

[prime jasper]

[steep gust]

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

Radeon GPU

[latent light]

Mark Cerny is the LEAD ARCHITECT

[steep gust]

• Zen 2 8c

rest is advertising shit about load times

like two whole paragraphs on ray tracing tho

[prime jasper]

guys n gals, let's pray 2 fucking jesus him self this console is expensive asfk...... because if it is.... PC games wont be held back as bad anymore

[steep gust]

There is till zero games that have proper ray tracing

like

6 months later?

[latent light]

yeah why do companies think we care so much about ray tracing

[steep gust]

It will be probably $450-500

[latent light]

$500 at a $100 loss per console

bet

[steep gust]

we won't know the lost

[prime jasper]

I hope the console cost 1500$

[steep gust]

but yeah they always do sell at a loss

[prime jasper]

So our games can actually look like 2019

[latent light]

I think the first xbox sold at a $70 loss

or something like that

[prime jasper]

lol have you seen what the steam hardware surveys look like? its definitely not like most of them are looking anything like 2019

Ps3 was the console that lost alot of money (it was little to ahead of it's time)

[storm osprey]

1060 is by far the most popular gpu

1080p makes up 60% of the resolution

[prime jasper]

I just want an actual game that looks real. Probably self fish for me asking... but I'm ready for da future

[storm osprey]

the future is never in consoles

[prime jasper]

hell you can still mod old shit like Oblivion to look great even nowadays

[storm osprey]

games dont look real on pc either

[prime jasper]

Tbh I still play gmod......

Yeah I seen the mods for skyrim

But skyrim dosnt like sli

[latent light]

the Xbox 360 had a better graphics processor than the PS3 though

[prime jasper]

Wut

The CPU on the ps3 was insane

[latent light]

Xbox 360 could run all games at 720p while the PS3 run some games at 720p but many at only 640p

[supple bane]

consoles are just too limiting imo

everything about them are restricted

[prime jasper]

The ps3 was almost double the raw compute power

[latent light]

it had a stronger CPU, in which it definitely needed because of the media use it had

[lucid pollen]

complex cpu too

[prime jasper]

Ooo yeah... forgot about that

Alot of it was hidden

[latent light]

my biggest problem with the PS3 were the servers lol

[prime jasper]

The servers did suck ass

[supple bane]

I’m sure I saw something where a company made a super computer out of PS4’s

[prime jasper]

Free servers always sucked

[latent light]

I remember lagging like ass a lot but not having that issue on my 360

[lucid pollen]

hopefully emulation of ps3 gets to a point where it's stable

[prime jasper]

@supple bane it was ps2?@

*it was ps2

It was the military

And it worked

[supple bane]

no it was 100% Ps4

Either that or the ps2 looks very similar to the Ps4

[prime jasper]

Nah it was the ps2

it does

[storm osprey]

werent xbox and ps3 both on p2p connections?

[prime jasper]

I remember the scare back then

[lucid pollen]

I just want backwards compatibility

[supple bane]

Ok we are both wrong ..,

it’s ps3

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.amp

33rd fastest computer in the world made out of consoles, who would have known

this was in 2010 tho. Im sure that 2 9900ks would compete with that

[latent light]

PS5 CPU gonna beat 9900K in singlecore

[supple bane]

press x to doubt

well we will see I guess

[latent light]

[steep gust]

it won't

[latent light]

I really think that the CPU will only boost to 3 GHz max tbh

[steep gust]

Generational improvements don't work like that

yeah the PS5 will be thicc

or power starved

Hopefully thicc

[supple bane]

probs both

[latent light]

I did the like the size of the launch xbox one because it had good cooling

and was quiet

[supple bane]

I mean, the only argument for that console gaming is better is that it is cheaper... but it isn’t !

[steep gust]

uh what

Tell me how selling products at a loss is not cheaper to the consumer

[latent light]

xbox and ps give free games from their paid online service

[supple bane]

for ps you have to buy ps + which is like 100 a year

[latent light]

wtf

[supple bane]

On top of the 400 base

[latent light]

on xbox you get free games with gold

[supple bane]

then the more expensive games

so In a few years of having a ps, you would have paid for a very nice gaming pc

[storm osprey]

ps+ is not 100 bucks...

[molten coral]

It's like 50 bucks a year

[storm osprey]

i think msrp is now 60 bucks

[latent light]

do you get free games on PSN?

[storm osprey]

with ps+ yes

[prime jasper]

I'm just sitting here wondering if the ps7 could beat me

[storm osprey]

xbl got the idea from ps+

[solemn tusk]

The PS7 is a transformer

[supple bane]

Ok

Why the fuck did I think it was so expensive

[storm osprey]

ps+ is constantly on sale for 40-45

[supple bane]

[storm osprey]

no idea xd

the games for ps+ have been poo lately

[latent light]

on games with gold, I got the borderlands collection for free

also forza horizon 3

[solemn tusk]

They also gave out Battlefield 1 awhile back

[latent light]

yeah

[storm osprey]

the last good thing ps+ gave imo was bloodborne

[supple bane]

Currently my ps is a black box that sits and gathers dust

[latent light]

games with gold has better games tbh

[supple bane]

I haven’t turned it on in a year

[storm osprey]

idk about anymore, but before it was always back and forth

ps usually has more exclusives to fall back on

[solemn tusk]

As far as Subscription based services go, Xbox is way above Playstation. Between Games with Gold, Xbox Game Pass, and EA Access. I remember Sony didn't want EA Access on there because "it wasn't a good value" for their customers or something. But Playstation has a lot of great exclusives, especially for weebs.

[supple bane]

I can’t believe I actually used to have good aim with a controller

it’s amazing

[latent light]

Microsoft just showed off an all-digital Xbox One S that doesn't have a disc drive

[storm osprey]

they did that with the 360

[supple bane]

well I wouldn’t be able to aim on a controller now, but back in he good ol days of bo3 I was good

[storm osprey]

blops 3 the old days...

here i am thinking unreal tournament

[supple bane]

bo3 was one of my fave cod’s tbh

[storm osprey]

mw2 for me

[supple bane]

it just had good chemistry for me

[solemn tusk]

Microsoft is probably having their machine learning division going nuts on their next gen console now that Sony has revealed their hand and the all Digital is just a filler of some sort.

[prime jasper]

god I miss Enemy Territory

[storm osprey]

ms can do all they want, their game lineup is generally lack luster

and paying for time exclusives doesnt cut it anymore

people caught on with tomb raider

[supple bane]

i miss when fornite first came out when it was actually fun

[solemn tusk]

Maybe so, but that's why they're relying on other platforms, between their very odd relationship with Nintendo and allowing their "exclusives" to be on PC now

[supple bane]

well pc is usually windows so it’s Microsoft so they ring giving it to other company’s

so it’s understandable

[storm osprey]

youre not gonna sell a console outside of brand loyalty if you dont offer exlusives

[supple bane]

forza is the only reason I would get an Xbox

But I have a pc so I don’t need to

[storm osprey]

^

halo is the only thing of interest, but its an interest at most

everything else is on pc

[supple bane]

one thing i dont like about pc is that alot of things can go wrong, like drivers and usually more glitches and crashing

[storm osprey]

i must be lucky, ive hardly had problems

[supple bane]

i always have problems it seems like

[storm osprey]

my front room pc is a problem child, but thats expected

[supple bane]

i never had a single issue with any of my consoles but this pc alone has had a few

[storm osprey]

front room pc i built

[solemn tusk]

I don't get a whole lot of problems with my pc, but when I do it's always problems that are almost unique to me. Like for some reason Garry's Mod does not pick up my mic when I'm playing on this computer, but it does on my dad's desktop

[supple bane]

ok that is fucking awsome

[latent light]

I thought it was bad to mount a motherboard on anything that isn't metal

[storm osprey]

(i work at a cabinet shop)

i have my mb spaced from the wood

[latent light]

All-Digital Xbox One S

[supple bane]

the issues i have had is that my ram blew up and my audio became very messed up and it took me all night to fix it

and console i have never had any issues

[storm osprey]

ouch that sounds annoying

[supple bane]

it took me a week of diagnosing to figure out it was the ram

my hole pc crashed then woudlnt re-boot, then i got it to boot once and it crashed again, then for some miracle i decided to take one ram stick out and that was the problem

also that xbox sounds like something from hell, but also no disks to store so thats fun

[storm osprey]

i dont have a pc troubleshoot hell story yet

[solemn tusk]

Xbox SAD E

[supple bane]

lucky you then

i honestly think that something on the ram melted

i was on like a 5 hour ark session and we all know what that fooking game is like

[steep gust]

I had one of my CJR sticks shit itself

or my motherboard

[storm osprey]

actually, i had a bad mb i got and that was annoying to troublshoot

[steep gust]

and would randomly BSOD and then not boot

The settings were fully stable

I'd get into the bios

and no boot drive

reset at jedec, same thing

Eventually it showed up but I'm still at fully stock settings on my CPU and RAM

[supple bane]

just a question, does anyone know if the corsair vengance ram metal cooler actually doesn anything ?

[steep gust]

It should on paper if you have good airflow

[supple bane]

i may have asked that question before actually

[steep gust]

Corshit expoys the heatspreader on

So you won't get it off anyway

[supple bane]

well i have metal case protecting my ram if it doesnt help

i dont know why i would drop my ram but you never know

as we are on the topic of annoying pc stuff, that ssd was giving me the most annoying and simple problems ever

for example i wanted to have it behind my mobo, but because the sata power cable had been tied in a ring, the wire was moulded to that shape, so when ever i un-coiled it, it would coil back up again, so as i tried to stick it to the back it would just fly back off as the wire was like a spring

then i couldnt get the back on as there was one little dick head plug that i couldnt fit anywhere

[latent light]

would a Ryzen CPU only clocked to 2 GHz be faster than an Fx CPU at 4 GHz?

talking about single core obv

[steep gust]

uh not a yes or no

FX was built for a certain workload

[lucid pollen]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-FX-8350-Eight-Core-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/1780vs3243

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-FX-8350-Eight-Core-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1200/1780vs3029

[steep gust]

bad site

[lucid pollen]

wym?

[steep gust]

Its not using very public benchmarks

and only one benchmark

[lucid pollen]

they have a ton of cpus tested more than any other

margin of error is low

also has anyone killed their gpu using furmark?

[latent light]

no

[storm osprey]

Oh yeah?

[latent light]

8K graphics, maybe the dashboard

[minor turret]

8k video maybe

if there was some special shit used like the cpu in ps3 for GPU part

then somehow it might be viable for 30 fps

but they are using amd

[latent light]

3rd gen Ryzen CPU, could be capable of 100+ fps depending on clock speed

knowing consoles though, 60 fps lock

[steep gust]

uh

I think my iGPU supports 8k?

[prime jasper]

no

only 4k

Also ps5, ps6 will not play 8k

ps5 mabey play 8k video

on youtube

that alone will actually push its limits

People honestly don't understand how hardcore 8k is

that's 4 times 4k

Your rendering 4k

4 times

that's rendering 1080p 16 times

16

To play 8k games, you legit need AT LEAST 10k$+ PC, just the pc alone

Im not talking 60fps

Like really playing 8k

100fps

atm there's only 3 PC's I seen through out all hwbot and 3d mark, youtube that can play 8k legit as it gets

[steep gust]

There is one 8k 60hz monitor anyways

[prime jasper]

exactly

But

there is 1 8k 120hz monitor

with really bad lantecy

but it's real

5 display port cables must be plugged in

or 2 fiber optics

[steep gust]

gib link

[prime jasper]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14199/sharp-demonstrates-315inch-8k-120hz-hdr-monitor

You know what's sad

[steep gust]

Its not a real product yet

We have been waiting on 3440x1400 200hz HDR for like 3 years now

[prime jasper]

I have the only PC in the world that can power this monitor. and I can't even afford the monitor

[steep gust]

Its not even a possible to buy if you could afford it

also rip vram

like big rip vram

[prime jasper]

My vram goes to my ram after being filled, but the game is ALREADY on my ram so my fps dosn't tank as bad.......... Oh wait I forgot to tell everyone that

I can keep going up res until my actual ram is full

The texture's won't load as fast

but fps will be there

just fine

Also with 6 channels on dual rank performance to 12 sticks.... Good luck trying to bog my ram down

system is good up to 16k

past that will fill my ram until I get titans

then brings up to 18-20k

res

@steep gust that was my trump card

that's why I went with this socket

Don't say anything

BUT this all could blow up in my face

and I could be dead ass wrong

LOL

The system it self in theory would work

the cooling it self in theory would work

this entire build is just an experiment

[steep gust]

yeah I feel like your RAM to VRAM might be flawed

because it still has to load the textures into VRAM

It won't be as noticeable as from an SSD, but your frametimes will spike for a few frames

and the titans will perform leagues worse than a 2080ti goc

[prime jasper]

They would but past 16k, the extra vram would save me

[steep gust]

with what monitor tho

[prime jasper]

[steep gust]

Playing at 8k would already be upscaling the textures

Sometimes a lot

[prime jasper]

tbh I would still frame cap 95% of games at 8k ultra with msaa

Im waiting for 8k 120hz

or 8k 100hz

[steep gust]

Ultrawide 2160p

[prime jasper]

YES

[steep gust]

But 120hz+

The 4k ultrawide that exists is only 60hz

[prime jasper]

I have pretty bad tunnel vision tho, so prob would stick to normal 21:9

Sorry I don't mean to flex... Just really excited for this to work. just.... this thing is so far ahead of it's time lol

[lofty light]

I'm pretty happy with 3440x1440 at 120Hz for the moment, only screen that would make me wanna jump is those HDR2 200Hz ones they teased years ago but never got into production

[jaunty sonnet]

is a gtx 1660ti 6gb good for BFV

[lofty light]

@jaunty sonnet yus should be, at 1080p?

[jaunty sonnet]

yeah

[lofty light]

More than enough really

[jaunty sonnet]

coolio 😃

[lofty light]

BFV is more CPU bound

[jaunty sonnet]

ahhh i have i5-2400

[lofty light]

Oooof

[jaunty sonnet]

what

[lofty light]

That may be a bottleneck

Actually I dare say it will be

I had a 6400T and that limited my bf1 fps to like 20

[prime jasper]

yeah that GPU will outrun that processor for sure

[jaunty sonnet]

https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti/intel-core-i5-2400-3-10ghz/

dosent look that bad on there

[prime jasper]

just dont be surprised if your frames tank in gunfights and huge open areas

[grizzled apex]

https://youtu.be/yOVrnymvb60

Oh god

Microsoft made a disc drive-less Xbox one S

[steep gust]

yes

[lofty light]

There goes the only reason for me to buy an Xbox (Bluray)

[steep gust]

uh buy a ps3

way cheaper

[grizzled apex]

What’s the point though? ITS literally the SAME PRICE as a disc drive Xbox one S

Now I understand why I went to Pc

[steep gust]

bigger hdd iirc

also just because its the same price now

doesn't mean it will remain that way

[grizzled apex]

Microsoft will probably drop the price marginally... but not by much

I got a launch Xbox One in September 2015 and the power supply in 4 months exploded and Microsoft said the warrenty was invalid

Or something BS

[latent light]

was it used?

or refurbished?

[grizzled apex]

Nope. Brand new from toysrus

When it was still open

[prime jasper]

Ps4 had a similar fate at launch with the blue light of death

[latent light]

also being loud as a jet engine

[prime jasper]

That idk tbh

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lqiAD8ySBU

it's like the blower fans on reference Radeon cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6__TvBzAVj8

jesus

[storm osprey]

My PS4 pro gets loud af too

Just make it a fatty box for cooling

[steep gust]

the size of a ps4 pro

[prime jasper]

I use my PS3 as a foot warmer 😏

[steep gust]

I could do a max level PC

9900k + 2080ti easily in that footprint

[prime jasper]

Wished I could afford the 2080 ti

[steep gust]

I can't

[storm osprey]

But that is also without a disc drive

[steep gust]

Well I could but it would be a very unbalanced machine

yeah disk drives are big gay

[prime jasper]

Well I should be happy with 2080

Only thing I should be worry about is my ram

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uEeChn5aKE

[latent light]

https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-50th-anniversary-edition-processor-leaked

[forest token]

not even 3000 series/zen 2

[supple bane]

geforce experience is being a douche again

it refuses to record anything

like i use the replay feature i press the keys and nothing happens

its almost like geforce experience never fucking works !!!!

[quaint topaz]

finally arrived.

[lime pollen]

Are those

is that

is it

the hyper x

[quaint topaz]

yes

pretty comfortable

[lime pollen]

my pair is still comfy

after 2 and a half years

[supple bane]

the cloud stingers arent that good imo, actually the headphones are great and they are super comfy, but the mic sucks hairy bollocks, and thats enough to put me off them

im thinking about getting a snowball to replace the mic this thing has

[quaint topaz]

@lime pollen do you use 7.1?

[lofty light]

I got my sis a pair of hyper x headphones for her first PC, they've lasted way better than my logitech ones

[tepid storm]

Hello everyone, tell me how to understand that after buying the premium it started working?

[quaint topaz]

@tepid storm What started working?

what game?

[tepid storm]

bf3

[lime pollen]

@quaint topaz no that's a joke

[quaint topaz]

i am trying it rn

[lime pollen]

7.1 is just emulated through the headphones and even then it's very poorly emulated

[quaint topaz]

i dont feel as if it's accurate

[lime pollen]

It's not

the speakers in your headphones are placed a bit near the back of your ear

and they're too small to have the range to really emulate 7.1

[quaint topaz]

ahh

i do like the USB dongle though

i plug and unplug it whenever i want without having to reach to the back of my pc

[lime pollen]

mhm

I hate using the jack so

thank god for the dongle

[quaint topaz]

I have the worst memories with headphone jacks

[lime pollen]

yeah same

I have trouble putting in speakers when friends come over

since I don't try to remember the right ports

😔

[quaint topaz]

i love them, but a long time ago when I had an LG G4 I dropped my phone and the headphone jack snapped inside of my phone

[lime pollen]

that's a fat oof

I try to use wireless buds and stuff but they're wonky af

[quaint topaz]

meh

not a huge fan of wireless

[lime pollen]

yeah the ones I got

really irritate the ears

[quaint topaz]

The samsung buds or airpods are a nice gimmick but i dont think ill ever use them.,

[lime pollen]

speaking of samsung

my s10e got scratched somehow when I went to that concert

big big oof

[quaint topaz]

OOF

[lime pollen]

samsung won't do anything about it unless the phone is cracked

welp

time to throw my phone into a goalpost

[quaint topaz]

The Samsung galaxy fold is now available

fucking meme

[lime pollen]

The s10e is lit though

only issue is the fucking scratch now

[quaint topaz]

I had an S7 Edge.

[lime pollen]

[quaint topaz]

it's okay

but I hate the samsung theme they slap on

[lime pollen]

mmm

what version did they have?

I think it was either oreo or marshmellow

I don't like oreo

[prime jasper]

there arent many phones that have stock android themes anyway

besides the pixel the Moto phones are quite close

[quaint topaz]

Not sure, but I did have the Exynos version of the S7

[lime pollen]

interesting interesting

[quaint topaz]

I'm extremely happy with my OnePlus 6

not stock android, but very damn close.

I love Oxygen OS. Gives you the ability to lock apps, use parallel apps

[lime pollen]

mm

was gonna get the 6t but

I liked the s10e design

plus I don't like big phones and the note 5/s10e were big enough

[quaint topaz]

My favorite phone of all time

after the OP6

is the Galaxy Note 3

[latent light]

I had a note 3

[quaint topaz]

I absolutely loved it. As much as I started to "unlike" Samsung, the S-Pen is a great invention and I don't see competition for smart pens around.

Forget about the apple pen.

overpriced piece of plastic

[lime pollen]

mhm

I don't recall what I had in the beginning of high school

but it was either the note 2 or s2

and switching over to the note 5 was like

good phone

I miss the fucking thing tbh

[quaint topaz]

I remember editing pictures with the S Pen, making memes

it was good

[lime pollen]

mhm

I drew a lot on it

wrote notes

good times

[quaint topaz]

The newer models are also interesting. Bluetooth enabled S pen

[lime pollen]

lul

soon the S pen will charge other phones

:^)

[quaint topaz]

can be used as a camera trigger

still blows my mind

old ass technology, i was so fucking shocked when I saw that my phone can detect the S Pen when it's hovering the screen

[jovial drum]

lol

[lime pollen]

lul

[prime jasper]

I cant be the only one who remembers having an original Moto Razr...shit was so cash

[quaint topaz]

is that the modular phone?

speaking of which

[prime jasper]

not even close

its a flip phone that was cool like 12 years ago

[quaint topaz]

what the hell happened to this project?

OHHHH The Razr now I remember that

[lime pollen]

LOL

[prime jasper]

lmao that vaporware

In The End plays softly in the distance

[quaint topaz]

I was actually excited for that modular phone

can't believe I fully forgot about it lol

[prime jasper]

reeeee Im still assblasted that nobody besides blackberry makes keyboard phones anymore

[quaint topaz]

Blackberry

you mean the phone with the screen that has no adhesive and falls off with some pressure?

[prime jasper]

bruh that trackball though

I remember using it on my dads phone like 10 years ago and was so jelly

[prime jasper]

Google killed proj Ara. Dunno why

[supple bane]

is anyone here an expert at taking apart a kb?

you can do a cheap diy mod for my kb that makes it look like 100x better, but im not too sure about taking it apart, is it hard to do ?

[prime jasper]

seems it would highly depend on the KB in question lol

[supple bane]

motospeed k87s

it has a clear plastic bottom and the mod is that you take it of and spray it with frosty glass and it makes it much nicer to look at

[storm osprey]

yea mostly depends on the keyboard you have

[supple bane]

so taking a kb apart isnt similar amongst all the kb's ?

[storm osprey]

not sure how to answer that one lol

from what i can tell you gotta take off the keycaps, switches, then top plate and that should be it

but, switches is a pita

especially if they are not modular

[supple bane]

another thing, having a white kb really shows how dirty these fuckers get XD

[storm osprey]

ive seen boards that have a bottom plate that you can take it off from there

[supple bane]

i have had it for like 3 days and it is filthy

[storm osprey]

yea i wouldnt get white

[supple bane]

i mean dont get me wrong, it is a sexy looking kb

but the dirt is real

[storm osprey]

yea, i got a white mousepad, and its like... gross

[supple bane]

i have a feeling that im going to need more compressed air

[storm osprey]

buy an xpower air blower

[supple bane]

i am not spending 50 pound on something that farts for me XD

[storm osprey]

oh, you have an air compressor right?
not like canned air

[supple bane]

no canned air

[storm osprey]

but youll spend more for canned air

at least here for a 3 pack of canned air its around 10 bucks

[supple bane]

i have some bicycle pumps, i might try those

[storm osprey]

lol

fuck that

[supple bane]

why?

i know a few people that do it

[storm osprey]

pumping like a madman to get little poofs of air

[supple bane]

ok makes sense

that made me laugh for some reason XD

[storm osprey]

i just got that air duster i said earlier and now i use it to clean electronics/dust around the house/clean my car

[supple bane]

i do have a air compressor but it is like the size of a small car and if i would use that on my keyboard it would send the whole keyboard flying down the street, not just the dust

well the size of a small car is a but of an exaggeration, but its fucking big

[storm osprey]

you dont have a nozzle that you can control the air flow?

[supple bane]

well i do, but the slowest one is still too much

i can try it, but im strapping my kb down to make sure XD

[storm osprey]

put it on the floor and put the nozzle like 6 feet away from it xD

[supple bane]

i have a story that this reminds me of, i was cleaning my bike with the pressure washers at the gas station, and some foreign dude asked me to fill his cup that had antifreeze in it still wish water to clean it, and ik what it was going to do.... he placed it on the floor i just tap the trigger and his little plastic cup was no more

i laugh about it every time i think aboutt it

i was so evil to do it without warning him of what was going to happen

[storm osprey]

lol youre a monster

[supple bane]

ik i am

it was still one of the funniest moments of the year tho

[twilit pine]

hey does somone knows how to get more FPS in Battlefield 5

[supple bane]

lower your settings, try both dx 11 and dx 12,

[twilit pine]

I have a relative good pc and im playing in 20fps

[supple bane]

what are the specs of your relatively good pc ?

[twilit pine]

PC: GTX 1070 X 8G OC ; AMD Ryzen 5 1600X OC ; 1T HDD ; 8GB Ram... I think that the most important thing is the ram

So i have to do a upgrade to my ram

[supple bane]

is it single or dual channel ?

so do you have one or two sticks

[twilit pine]

single

[supple bane]

there ya go

thats your problem

bf hates single channel

[grizzled apex]

^^^

Battlefield also uses about 8Gb of ram and your system uses about 3-4gb just to run

Depending on the applications running or whatnot

[supple bane]

12 or 16gb is a good place to be with bf v

[grizzled apex]

12gb is kind of a strange setup though

[storm osprey]

so if you can find the same exact ram just buy another stick and hope it works

[grizzled apex]

Ram is pretty cheap on Newegg

[supple bane]

anything more than 16gb isnt necessary

[twilit pine]

I can almost play every game in at least 60fps... I know that my ram is very small so i propably buy a better one

[storm osprey]

whats the ram frequency?

[twilit pine]

When i started playing Battlefield i had about 60fps but now "nothing"

[supple bane]

you just need to get it dual channel, 8gb is good enough to play, just not with single channel

[twilit pine]

i think 3200 Mhz...

[prime jasper]

now it will only run at about 2133 unless you are pulling the DOCP/XMP profile in the bios

it doesnt do that by default

[storm osprey]

just get 1 more 8gb stick of the same brand, speed, and timings

[prime jasper]

easy to check this by going to performance tab of task manager

[twilit pine]

I cant see anything...

there is no Mhz

[prime jasper]

click on the memory part and look just below the graph

[supple bane]

go to performance, then memory, then its on the right side under speed

[twilit pine]

2400Mhz

[prime jasper]

either you arent remembering your memory correct or it indeed is running at stock ddr4 speeds

[twilit pine]

I cant remember

[storm osprey]

just pull out the ram and read the sticker on the side

[twilit pine]

What does DIMM mean? Is it something like ddr4?

I just wanted to play but with this FPS it doesn´t makes fun...

[supple bane]

the only thing you can do for now is play on ridiculously low settings to make fps easy to get

[twilit pine]

i already play on low

[supple bane]

no i mean the resolution

well infact, lowering the reso increases cpu strain, so it might even need more ram

dont quote me on that tho

[latent light]

BFV will get around 30-50% higher performance from dual channel RAM

A.C. Odyssey, Forza Horizon 4, Shadow of the Tomb Raider also benefits a lot from dual channel RAM

[twilit pine]

I think i will upgrade my ram to 2 x 16gb and i will also buy a ssd 500gb, where im going to save my game files