technology

[warm junco]

Including pressing down on it with like half my bodyweight

Won't move.

I've tried that ;-;

Will try again

I'd send a pic but am still missing permissions

[latent light]

send them to me

and i will post them here for you

[warm junco]

Tyty

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564815368489664514/IMG_20190408_154552.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564815402375315477/IMG_20190408_153226.jpg

so you can't get that latch to unhinge??

[molten bramble]

ouch, the tolerance looks like severe.

[warm junco]

I've tried pushing, pulling, everything

Just console peasant things

[molten bramble]

It must have a edge that is unfinished on the rear, catching on the tooth.

[latent light]

this is why china shouldn't make all of our computer components

[molten bramble]

lol

[warm junco]

@molten bramble tolerance?

[molten bramble]

Can you unscrew the entire back of the https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422598689928773632/564814105626804225/8f671568fc517afc7ac0043473146af7.png ?

Like, the entire back panel.

Give yourself some room to shift the card forward from the cradle?

[warm junco]

No, I can't. Those metal strips between the screws are integrated into the case

[molten bramble]

Jeez...

[latent light]

you can't push the card back into the slot right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564816474238222356/IMG_20190408_161851.jpg

[warm junco]

Like so

No, I've tried :(

[latent light]

also, is the only problem on the card with a fan?

[molten bramble]

Only other thing I can think of is to pull the entire mobo with the card on it... not the best solution.

[warm junco]

Yeah

[molten bramble]

I think you really have to reseat the card, pull it forward a little with the unlatching, and then up.

[latent light]

tbh, I'd already just broke that latch off by now xd

[warm junco]

@latent light that + in Wattman the fan monitor always shows 0rpm

So the entire fan uhh control seems broken or smth.

[latent light]

ah so either dead fan or the fan isn't plugged into the GPU's board correctly

[warm junco]

Even when one fan is spinning it says 0rpm

[latent light]

damn

[warm junco]

@molten bramble ugh

Been tryin

Guess I'm gonna have to suck it up an see a specialist or smth

Lest I break everything ;_;

[molten bramble]

I only had one card once that was jammed that bad. I literally had to disassemble a portion of the case around the card and pull the board with the card on it.

[warm junco]

Damn

At least I feel a little less banned r-word now.

Seems like a fairly common issue / mistake.

[molten bramble]

So the other day, I had an issue with an NVMe stand-off... I had to take a break from it. Came back later, and put another effort into it.

Sometimes the frustration clouds something simple in front of us.

Maybe take a step back, go grab a Yoohoo (that's what I do :p) and come back to it.

[latent light]

that pci-e latch is unfinished

although, in those pictures the GPU is slanted at an angle which is likely the reason the latch won't come undone

[warm junco]

I fucking did it

I got it back inside

The slot

[latent light]

did you accidentally try to remove the card without unhinging the latch?

oh shit

[warm junco]

Yes

Poggers

Dude

[latent light]

does the latch hinge now?

[warm junco]

These silver things had moved like 0.5mm outside

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564818966426550297/IMG_20190408_162843.jpg

lol

[warm junco]

They were what prevented the slot from sliding in

Jesus

[molten bramble]

Ah, the faceplate jammed you up from reseating?

[latent light]

silver things? the I/O shield of the graphics card?

[warm junco]

Yes

By like a mm

Or less

It wasn't visible

Lmao

[latent light]

oof

[warm junco]

YES

Okay

[latent light]

can you remove the card now

[warm junco]

GPU is now securely plugged

I will try

Gonna work on the hinge first now

[molten bramble]

When you do, shift away slightly from the latch as you unlatch.

[latent light]

you just press down on it tbh

[molten bramble]

He did that before

Or she

I dunno

[latent light]

[molten bramble]

I think the leading edge tolerance of the card or the slot on the latch edge has caught that card somehow.

[warm junco]

He :P

It worked ;-;

GPU removed

[latent light]

tbh, the way you install a GPU into a PC has been the same process for over 2 decades now, they need to come up with an easier way soon

[warm junco]

Holy hell

Hinge moved just fine after some pressure this time

[latent light]

yeah it takes about the weight of your arm lol

[molten bramble]

Is it out?

[latent light]

ye he got it

[warm junco]

Yes

[molten bramble]

YAY!

Patience pays off. 😉

[warm junco]

🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌

[latent light]

check the GPU pci-e connector and make sure it didn't get damaged

[warm junco]

Thank you so much guys

This internet stranger appreciates ur effo4t

effort*

[molten bramble]

No worries, hope everything is still in order.

[warm junco]

Just hoping I didn't break anything in the process >_<

But we'll see

Seems gucci

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564820758648455199/IMG_20190408_163554.jpg

[molten bramble]

Seems fine from that shot. Where did your screwdriver strike when you tried that?

[warm junco]

I hope this pin on the right isn't broken

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564820978014748684/IMG_20190408_163641.jpg

no that pin is normal

[minor turret]

uuugh computex is almost 2 months away

[latent light]

it's supposed to be shorter

[minor turret]

i want my 5ghz 16 core already

[molten bramble]

Pin is fine

[warm junco]

Good~

[molten bramble]

Either way, you're swapping that via RMA right?

Good riddance, card is cursed.

[warm junco]

Not the best shot, but it struck on the board to the right of the big blurry hinge.

Where those black squares are

No visible damage tho

(Pic will come soon)

[molten bramble]

ok

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564815349766160419/564821274359234571/IMG_20190408_163742.jpg

this is what the pins on my RX 580 looks like

[warm junco]

I see!

[latent light]

has the short one

[warm junco]

I'm glad :)

[latent light]

SK Hynix made the memory chips on my RX 580

no wonder I get artifacts

[quaint topaz]

Let's hope that decision was good

[latent light]

that's some long shipping time

[molten bramble]

He lives in a far away land.

[warm junco]

@latent light rip

Where can you check that btw?

Out of curiosity. Hoping my Vega will have B-die. That said, I'm hoping I'll get a replacement in the first place :/ so far the retailer only asked me to send the card back.

[latent light]

I took the cooler off my RX 580 to find out

it's the only way tbh

[warm junco]

Oh I see.

Or thru OC testing

Something I haven't fiddled with yet

[minor turret]

amd doesnt show memory type in gpu-z?

like nvidia

[latent light]

what memory chips your GPU uses depends of what that manufacturer had available to them on that day

ripped the stock thermal pads

[molten bramble]

lol

[latent light]

tbh, I'm probably not going with another gigabyte GPU again until they improve their customer service

[molten bramble]

eff their customer service, I won't buy one again because of this shitass software

[latent light]

I told them that my RX 580 artifacts on cold boot and I did a windows reset, tried about a dozen different drivers

and they want me to send them my whole PC to diagnose it

that would be like $50 shipping

[molten bramble]

tf?

[latent light]

and I wouldn't have a PC for a month

gigabyte customer service is comparable to Apple's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxFxENP1AM

this is what the artifacts look like

only happens on cold boot and I have to restart the PC to remove them

[molten bramble]

Apple's CS has always been phenomenal for me.

So I don't get the comparison.

I've had three iPhones and two MacBooks replaced or repaired at no cost.

[latent light]

yeah they are responsive but, trying to send them back a broken MacBook and they will charge you more than what you paid for it in the first place

Louis Rossman has atleast 100 videos on Apple's customer service and repair team

[molten bramble]

Never been charged, was always sent free shipping boxes from them. You had AppleCare+ or what?

They replaced a mainboard that was about $900 for free on one of the MBPs.

I used them on two continents as well, no difference in service for me.

[latent light]

I enver owned a macbook, just an iPhone 4 and a 5S

[molten bramble]

Oh

[latent light]

I'm just saying what average consumers face

[molten bramble]

Weird, never heard that (and most of the people I hang with own Apples).

[steep gust]

@warm junco B-Die is DDR4 16x 512Mb ICs IIRC

You don't want DDR4 for vram

[molten bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhoqIJ7VZM

[steep gust]

Adding another level of thermal material

[molten bramble]

[steep gust]

Just because its samsung memory doesn't make it better

[latent light]

tbh, the memory problem on my 580 could be that the memory chips need to be resoldered into place

I have all the tools to do that but it's easy to make a mistake when you aren't experienced in that

my dad can do it but he's only replaced BGA CPUs from laptops and phones and has never touched a dedicated graphics card before

even though he's been reballing stuff for many years now, I don't think he would get it right on my GPU

[warm junco]

@steep gust the Vega has HBM memory tho, doesn't it?

Is that still DDR?

[latent light]

HBM2 is much more power efficient and has larger bandwidth than GDDR

[warm junco]

That's what I remembered

Ok, brought the card to the post office.

Hope the retailer will replace it without issues

This is my first time doing this. Thus slightly on edge

[latent light]

you put a shipping label on the box and everything?

[warm junco]

Yep

Even included the RMA number and everything on a piece of paper

[molten bramble]

You take picture of it? I had a manufacturer claim I'd damaged something when sending it in.

I sent them the pics and threatened them with a lawsuit for trying to defraud a customer.

A lot more involved with the backstory on that, but it's the basic jest of it.

[zealous moss]

you guys talking about gpus and what not? because i'd bought a rx560 few months ago and it arrived dead, artifacting non stop

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt recommend a 560 anyway

570 at least imo

[zealous moss]

i was saving 6 months to replace my gtx670 and the 560 was basically all i could afford without going over $250

[storm osprey]

ive seen 580s for less than 200

[zealous moss]

of which my 670 died from a driver update

yeah but i live in canada

everything cost more

[storm osprey]

oh right

[zealous moss]

yeah and the 560 was 150 usd and was 220 cad and after taxes came to 252

[latent light]

PowerColor RX 570 is going for $200 cad

on Newegg.ca

[zealous moss]

would be nice if i had the 200 for that

decided to pick up a 750ti for $120 cad

[latent light]

have you tried to RMA your 560?

[zealous moss]

i returned the 560 after a week of having it

and then i ended up using that money on bills

[latent light]

damn went from a gtx 670 to a rx 560 to a 750 ti

[zealous moss]

im pretty annoyed tbh

[latent light]

670 is a lot better than a 750 Ti

[zealous moss]

ive been using my integrated graphics for 7 months

ive never actually found a 670 that's either a scam or not $600

[latent light]

also, when going from Nvidia to AMD or vice versa, it's highly recommended to download DDU and boot into safe mode to do a clean driver uninstall of the old card

[zealous moss]

i did that the day my 670 died 7 months ago

ive long since gotten rid of every single thing nvidia from my pc

[latent light]

I'd say the best value card for you is the RX 570, although Navi is going to launch in 2 months or less

[grizzled apex]

Or if your gonna spend a bit more than 200$ get a 1660. It is basically a glorified gtx 1060 6gb that’s 80$ cheaper

@latent light ANY card is better than a gtx 750 ti

4 years ago it kicked ass but it sucks now

[latent light]

RX 570 is $200 cad

1660 is $300 cad

not even the same price range

[cold radish]

$200

[warm junco]

Rip

Yeah I'm always jelly of US prices too

German prices are basically 1:1, just in euros

But I can't complain. At least I don't live in like AUS or Singapore or Brazil

[safe meteor]

Too late

I guess people just dont want an RTX card when there's barely rtx featured games out there

And a 1660ti is also pretty cheap for its performance

Around the same as a 1060 6gb

[molten bramble]

They've done that with almost every new iteration of cards... then it takes 2-3 years for stuff to actually support what it can do.

Been that way since the '90s

[steep gust]

Dont buy Pascal new

[molten bramble]

CUDA was a hype at one time, but it took years for people to actually put it to use.

[steep gust]

CUDA had potential from day 1

RTX features don't

A 2080ti doesnt have anywhere near enough compute to do proper real time ray tracing

In 5 generations maybe

It takes a server rack full of multi thousand dollar GPUs for movies to render ray tracing

And that isn't realtime

[safe meteor]

From what I can see, rtx cards are basically just cards that can handle 4k without the raytracing lol

Provided you have a cpu that can go with it

[steep gust]

Ray tracing is just proper reflections currently

And isn't really true ray tracing

Yet rendering a bunch of proper reflections brings even the most powerful GPUs to their knees

[molten bramble]

CUDA had potential, the hardware at the time had a ways to go.

Same thing here.

[safe meteor]

We'll get to photorealism graphics soon

[molten bramble]

lol SOON(tm)

[steep gust]

CUDA had potential outside of gaming

[molten bramble]

Indeed

[steep gust]

RTX features really don't

[molten bramble]

We'll see

It's rare for a company to invest a lot of cash into something for no benefit. Maybe it has AI applications since that's the direction the company is moving and their SEC 10-K seems to support some heavy investment.

That's not to say it doesn't happen, but ya know..

[steep gust]

Meh movies will move onto path tracing instead of ray tracing and RTX features wont matter then

Rendering wants raw compute (more cuda cores that are faster)

[latent light]

why don't games just do what Cryengine does

[wanton ember]

cool

[latent light]

https://press.cryengine.com/crytek-releases-neon-noir-a-real-time-ray-tracing-demonstration-for-cryengine

can be done any any GPU

[steep gust]

There are a few engines with the ability to do almost photorealistism

And it is using the DX12 api that nvidia uses

[latent light]

DXR in BFV isn't that good at all, reflections completely disappearing whenever a small object moves over the reflection surface

[steep gust]

Witcher 3 was a stunning game when it came out and I'm expecting CDPR to captilize with cyberpunk 2077

TES6 should look like Witcher 3

Biggest issue with skyrim is the graphics tbh

[safe meteor]

You make TESV look good with mods + a lot of time tweaking if you can be assed

So I hope TES 6 would be a huge improvement

[latent light]

TES 6 still going to be locked at 60 fps

because of the engine

[safe meteor]

Yeah lol

Unlocking it brings out the best of glitches

[steep gust]

I would take 60fps

If the game looked stunning

[safe meteor]

^

[steep gust]

Skyrim had some seriously half assed textures

That ruin the atmosphere

[safe meteor]

I wouldnt mind dropping a little bit below if it's singleplayer

Or if it's Minecraft Path Tracing

[steep gust]

Like when the most popular mods are literally just high res textures

You know you fucked up

[safe meteor]

Tbf TES V was released in 2011

[prime jasper]

lol I remember the first thing I did with Oblivion was download high res outdoor textures because the draw distance was so shit

[steep gust]

Witcher 3 was 2015

Lots change in 4 years

They will have 9

Fallout 4 had the same issues and fallout 76 wasnt that great looking

[grizzled apex]

Fallout 4 rocked

I have like 100+ hours on the Xbox alone

[steep gust]

Graphically its nothing special

[grizzled apex]

Shrug

[latent light]

Witcher 3 had amazing DLC

especially the Blood and wine one

[storm osprey]

wtf is that?

looks like a bad anime mmorpg

[prime jasper]

Blood and Wine lol its not a mod

its a 'fairy tale land' kinda thing

[storm osprey]

looks horrible..

[prime jasper]

its only temporary for a mission

its intentionally over the top

[storm osprey]

interesting

[prime jasper]

look at the mission objectives in the top right of the pic lol

[grizzled apex]

1060 6gb has 13.3ms response vs gtx 1660 it’s 10.7ms 👌

Now that’s what I call a win

[zealous moss]

so, ive been having an issue with bf4 literally all day long

As the windows open to launch bf4, it just locks my computer and i have to force reset

[tall creek]

1660ti should be a beast at 1080p.

[supple bane]

amen

[storm osprey]

1660 ti is a beast at 1080p

its a 1070, so you can do some 1440p gaming off of it

imo the 1660ti is the perfect 1080p 144hz gpu

[tall creek]

6GB vram is more than enough, and a 2000Mhz OC might make it even better.

[supple bane]

jesus nyphon, your profile pic never stays the same does it XD

also yes

its a great gpu

[storm osprey]

lol no

pow changed it(not directly)

then someone drew me this tank, and then another user drew me some nazi cat

im rotating between the nazi cat and the tank

[finite torrent]

I'm keeping the cat alive tho.

[storm osprey]

and yea theres version 2.0

[supple bane]

i made mine on photoshop and i love it so i dont think ill change it

[storm osprey]

i want to draw my own some day, but i dont, people always draw something for me

[supple bane]

hang on a minute

[storm osprey]

ok

fuck are you drawing me something now?

[supple bane]

clicking on nyphon 2.0 reveals a lot

[finite torrent]

What

[supple bane]

giggles

get out of here boi

ya fake

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-youre-abig-fat-phony-gif-11361132

[finite torrent]

I'm not impersonating him, I'm merely a newer version of him.

[supple bane]

i honestly thought that it was just an alt account

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-hide-gif-4983317

[storm osprey]

only trusted and above can post gifs/images

[supple bane]

ye i figured

wow, love how im listening to ispy and other rap songs and fooking bitch lasagne comes on next in the playlist

im going to murder who ever made that play list

[storm osprey]

bitch lasanga is fire

i looked that up assuming it was music

nothing

[steep gust]

1070 1440p?

[warm junco]

^

[storm osprey]

it does it at low fps, unless you turn down settings, you can actually get decent fps, though i dont recommend it

wait... i think it does 60 fps 1440p at decent settings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6mnQ8wu6TI

ultra preset at 1440p on a 1070 gets 80 fps on hamada...

thats not bad at all

[stark creek]

[warm junco]

BF5 seems surprisingly not GPU hungry actually

(I don't have it)

but I see mid-range cards running it on ultra without problems

[latent light]

my RX 580 gets 80 fps average on ultra 1080p

[warm junco]

that's nutty

[steep gust]

BFV slams both CPU and GPU

ultra 1080p is like 120-140fps for me

on a 1080 / 8600k @4.9ghz

[warm junco]

I don't know what I get

[storm osprey]

low 1440p around 100-120 on 1080/4790

[warm junco]

[latent light]

I got ryzen 5 1600 at 3.8

[warm junco]

is low 1440p better than high 1080p tho?

🤔 can't imagine it is

I'm a total newb tho

[storm osprey]

depends what you want

i get better PPI

and i play "comp" settings for best visibility

[warm junco]

I c

[storm osprey]

graphics change how things look, resolution changes how sharp they look

[warm junco]

a 1440p monitor is gonna be my next big buy I guess.

I have a 6 year old BenQ

runs like a charm tho

120hz 24" 1080p

[storm osprey]

ehhh, going up in resolution is hard for me to justify to others

you dont NEED 1440p

(in the sense of needing gaming)

[warm junco]

[storm osprey]

see, you can perform the same on a 1080p monitor for much less

[warm junco]

yeah, but for the coming 5 years, 1440p is probably a great investment

for what I want

[storm osprey]

imo, if you really realy want a 27" monitor, then get 1440p

[warm junco]

👌 so I'm gonna keep an eye out over the summer

and work a part time job LUL

[storm osprey]

if not, then 24" 1080p is perfect

imo, you should get 144hz and gsync before 1440p

[steep gust]

ultra 1080p with max AA

is harder than 1440p low

[storm osprey]

i hate AA

[steep gust]

1440p 144hz gsync

ez

[warm junco]

right, the screen size vs resolution dilemma. 27" is probably not ideal for competitive games

[steep gust]

or freesync

[warm junco]

while 1440p is prolly a waste on 24"

[steep gust]

24" 1080p

[warm junco]

[storm osprey]

yep

[steep gust]

27" 1080p is stretched

[storm osprey]

27" 1080p is uggglyyy

so pixelated

[warm junco]

can imagine

[storm osprey]

tbf, my friend has a 24" 1440p monitor, and you dont see any pixels

its like perfect

[warm junco]

ideally I'd like a nice 27" 1440p monitor for games like Witcher, Dark Souls and RTS

and 24" 1080p for stuff like OW, CS:GO

[storm osprey]

i played OW on a "semi pro" team on my 1440p monitor, its not going to hinder you

gsync is worth it for anything

[warm junco]

@storm osprey 27"?

[storm osprey]

yep 27"

[warm junco]

nice

[storm osprey]

gsync just stops screen tearing and stuttering

i guess stop isnt correct, but it nearly eliminates it

[warm junco]

what was your SR? Or is top 500 an automatic given even for semi pro teams?

[storm osprey]

i said "semi pro" because we were a team of mostly friends and some randoms that just wanted to play together but try to do good

we played vs semi pro teams and a couple of future pro teams

we beat a few semi pro teams

and we only practiced for like 6-8 hours a week

vs the people we played against practiced and ran reviews for 20+ hours a week

[warm junco]

would semi pro be Contenders now? or below Contenders

[storm osprey]

@plain vessel thats why i went 1440p, at the time the prices were oddly close to eachother

@warm junco err im not sure what contender is. OWL?

[warm junco]

@storm osprey yeah Overwatch Contenders

[storm osprey]

but my sr floated around 4k

[warm junco]

I see

[storm osprey]

i played solo ranked though

[warm junco]

my peak was 3950, when I lived and played in Korea

[storm osprey]

support "main"

[warm junco]

same

[storm osprey]

i was flex.. but you know what that means

[warm junco]

master of none

Ana main here

[storm osprey]

no it just means that no one else wanted to play support

[latent light]

I want ultrawide curved

[storm osprey]

so i ended up supporting

[warm junco]

ah lol

[storm osprey]

yea i mained ana too

i hated lucio

and mercy

too passive

[warm junco]

same

Ana's my bae

Moira was fun too

[storm osprey]

i would play DPS till masters, and then tank till GM

and then i would flex

[warm junco]

but I haven't played since season 8. And only recently finally assembled my first PC.

so I might start tryharding again

[storm osprey]

pfft, ive stopped since season 4 or 5?

true

[steep gust]

1080p 144hz freesync

don't bother with paying extra for gsync

[storm osprey]

oh right, i keep forgetting freesync is supported

[warm junco]

tfw my BenQ monitor is from the pre-freesync era

[steep gust]

module vs software

[warm junco]

price

[steep gust]

gsync is physical

[warm junco]

[storm osprey]

was supposed to be one was for AMD and other was Nvidia

of course different implementations

but they both do the same thing, reduce tearing and stuttering

basically v sync without input lag

[warm junco]

one day I went to favourite PC bang and there was suddenly horrendous input lag, had never been there before. I talked to staff about it an tried to xplain it to them in Korean

I even let them play in the testing range

the filthy casuals didn't notice it and looked at me like I was dumb

[storm osprey]

LOL

[warm junco]

then I saw that they had turned V-sync on by default, maybe after an update or something

turned it off and everything was fine again

since then I had to turn it off manually every time I went to that PC bang cuz it was default LOL

[storm osprey]

thats annoying

its crazy how many people dont know settings that are making their performance worse

[warm junco]

try playing Tracer with like 50ms input lag

yeah

it's also crazy how legit casual players literally don't notice that delay

[storm osprey]

and have high sensitivity settings with enhance pointer precision on

DPI max because "its more accurate"

[grizzled apex]

having a higher dpi doesnt make you more accurate, it just makes your sensistivity higher, but for things like sniping, it makes no sense to have a higher dpi

[storm osprey]

i was making fun of people with higher dpi and claimed it was more accurate

i keep all my sensitivities the same

consistency is key

[steep gust]

use the dpi native to your mouse

[storm osprey]

i know that was a major thing before, but is it anymore?

[steep gust]

probably not as bad

but you still should

[storm osprey]

it sucks theres no scientific backing on this

[quasi sparrow]

someone pls fix my performance issues 😭😭😭

BFV y u do this to me

I haven't had issues like this with a game since like launch BF4

[zealous moss]

i spent all day trying to get bf4 to launch without locking my pc

[vagrant ruin]

I got a 1920x1200 Monitor and I'd like to set it to 1920x1080, but the monitor stretches if I take it. Is it possible to Set it to 1920x1080 with black bars above and below?

[latent light]

if someone wants to use a thermal pad for the CPU, do they get the thinnest one possible?

[steep gust]

yes

[latent light]

or could just get thermal tape lmao

my 1mm thermal pad came in today

now I just need the 1.5mm

[vagrant ruin]

As a replacement for tape?

What

paste

my brain isnt working rn

[latent light]

I heard graphite thermal pads can do as well as paste

[vagrant ruin]

Why not just use paste tho

[latent light]

pads can be reused

[vagrant ruin]

Ah

Fair point

Ill remember that for the next time I build a PC

or change my CPU

[latent light]

nah, don't get a pad for your cpu

[vagrant ruin]

on an i7-4770

I think it's reaching its limits here with BF V

[steep gust]

graphite pads are pretty ass

They are okay for low power stuff

[latent light]

graphite pads will usually be a few degrees higher than good paste

they are great for ~50 watt CPUs

[steep gust]

The second you hit a like 100-200w CPU

It becomes a thermal bottleneck

and starts to hotbox your cpu

[storm osprey]

Free sync is way cheaper, make sure it's compatible

[latent light]

I want a curved ultrawide

[steep gust]

uh

as long as the freesync isn't some dumb shit

It will work as long as the gpu has a displayport on any pascal / turing nvidia gpu

idk if maxwell got the driver support

[prime jasper]

it sure is

[steep gust]

Your GPU needs displayport

not your mobo

[mystic leaf]

Hi guys.
More than 22 hours ago and im getting: DisplayName Field Missing from Registry.
Too many accounts has accesed to my account. That i need to try later, almost 24 hours ago and still same.

[steep gust]

fuck

I type faster than I generally think

[mystic leaf]

Any help about?

[steep gust]

change your password

missing registry files are fun, i think windows has a tool to check

[mystic leaf]

I had the same on Apex, but on 15 hours it worked well, but BF5 wont.

Not, it was not the same account xD

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[mystic leaf]

Yeah i did, i just uploaded their files about MS info, dxdiag, UO Trace etc... still waiting for their reply.
But i ask here to know if someone can give me some tips about.

[storm osprey]

Yeah idk the specifics on free sync working on nvidia

[steep gust]

you turn it on via the same way as gsync

[storm osprey]

🤷

Just read up on it, apparently of the 400 freesync monitors only 12 are certified by Nvidia.

[steep gust]

certified

=/=

works

The certified means its functional gsync which is hard af to do from software

since gsync supports 1hz-whatever monitor refresh rate is

[lime pollen]

^

[steep gust]

Most freesync panels are like 40-144hz or something like that

[lime pollen]

We can get from this however is that anything that AMD had in terms of technological competition could be altered to be used my Nvidia

which sorta underlines competition between the gimmicky sync monitors smh

[steep gust]

Freesync is VESA adaptive sync

[lime pollen]

ik

[steep gust]

which AMD doesn't own

[lime pollen]

But the average consumer doesn't know that

[steep gust]

the average consumer is

nvidia good

amd bad

[lime pollen]

^

and now that nvidia is using the technology at a sudden point without any real complication involved

they basically lied through their products

pseudo competition

[storm osprey]

Non certified are not guaranteed to work, Reddit is making a list that do work though

[coarse nimbus]

amd good, nvidia bad, ea and dice evil, ubisoft gods?

[steep gust]

ARM best x86 CPUs

[mystic leaf]

@steep gust It worked to change pass, but i put 2 way confirmation as well, now BF5 force me to play intro lmao

[steep gust]

better than not playing

you can skip the intro

[mystic leaf]

cant, trying

😄

[steep gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/564976679202586627/v9ySucy.png

Asus why did you do this

[prime jasper]

because weebs

[lofty light]

RADE-ON!

[latent light]

HD 4870 was the best GPU of its time

[grizzled apex]

Looks like my old 9800gt

[lofty light]

The average consumer is "NVIDIA good, AMD bad" but the average tech geek is "NVIDIA evil, AMD saintly"

[grizzled apex]

I really don’t have anything against AMD, I’m just not used to their software unlike nvidia a

[lofty light]

NVIDIA experience

Unfortunately I have to use it now because I got a Shield

It's actually pretty good to play games on the tv with, got a wireless bridge through the house that it runs on and it still has no lag

[dusty grail]

^

[lofty light]

Only issues are when my network dies because I'm on trash copper

[grizzled apex]

How olds the copper?

[lofty light]

Probably very, it's fibre to a node down the street then copper to my place

Currently getting 50/20 on it

[grizzled apex]

Powerline?

[lofty light]

Na phone line

[grizzled apex]

How does that work?

I have a phone line in my room and I can’t connect it to my computer

[lofty light]

They swapped over the old landline copper to NBN

You need a router that supports it and changes on their end

[grizzled apex]

What about a phone line to rj45 converter

[lofty light]

Na it has to have a router that supports that style of input

I made that mistake at first

[grizzled apex]

So I can’t use Rj11 to Rj45?

[lost venture]

Does any know of a good joystick for under 100 USD?

[grizzled apex]

Joystick in battlefield 5 😂😅

[lost venture]

Warthunder*

For simulator battles

[grizzled apex]

Ah, I had to say. I’m not personally into that kind of stuff

[lofty light]

@grizzled apex had to get a router with the rj11 input

[grizzled apex]

Too bad there’s no simpler way to hook up rj11 to rj45

[lofty light]

You can get adaptors but you need the signal to actually be internet in the first place, and something that can read it

[quasi sparrow]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14182/hands-on-with-the-56core-xeon-platinum-9200-cpu-intels-biggest-cpu-package-ever?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
what an absolute unit

a half pound CPU

56c/112t

[prime jasper]

So, what the fuck is going on here

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/408265486

im not watching 3 hours of recorded stream. Whats the problem?

25:15

@prime jasper

k thanks

Have you ever seen anything like that?

[minor turret]

@prime jasper im pretty sure that if someone uses spotting flare everyone gets spotted

[prime jasper]

Dude.

The entire fucking map?

[minor turret]

i didnt see 45-50 dots

[prime jasper]

Watch it again

25:10. Those are not dots, those are clumps of enemies.

[minor turret]

ye when looking over its viable that after spawning people flare up but there are solo players and the dots staying up in last fight

[prime jasper]

Then someone has found a way to glitch spotting flares.

[thorn zephyr]

@storm osprey it's here

And it's good

Thanks a bunch for the recommendation

[solid nest]

Is someone here familiar with Roccat products and the AIMO lightning effect?

[lofty light]

I got a roccat mouse and haven't really used it

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-and-intel-core-cpu-market-share-q1-2019/

Ryzen 5 2600 is the most popular CPU right now, followed by the Ryzen 7 2700X

[forest token]

*laughing in zen 2 or new intel arch*

[sly portal]

*cries in first gen ryzen 5 1600 *

[forest token]

[grizzled apex]

Should I drive to go pickup a gtx 1660 ti or order one online? I’m trying to save as much money as possible (yes, I’m getting the ultra edition from evga grimace) 😉

Because I’m worried that taxes and shipping are gonna make the cost of the product more than the 310$ MSRP

[latent light]

depends on your country/state sales tax rates

I live in texas so 7% tax

which would total out to be $331

[grizzled apex]

6% Massachusetts. It’s just hard to try and save when your spending this much on a card

[latent light]

so it would be $330 for you after tax

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-06G-P4-1267-KR/dp/B07NBHXKK6?th=1

3 different EVGA cards to choose from

dual fans means less fan noise

[worthy timber]

Is it really that big of a difference?

[latent light]

the XC ultra only has 15mhz higher boost clock than the XC Gaming

XC Black - 1770 MHz - one fan - 3 slot card
XC Gaming - 1845 MHz - one fan - 3 slot card
XC Ultra - 1860 MHz - two fans - 2 slot card

@grizzled apex

how thick the card is

the XC black and the gaming

@grizzled apex just get the black or the gaming

even though they have 1 fan, they have a thicker heatsink which makes up for it

[grizzled apex]

Maybe, but I mean it’s just one fan as well

[storm osprey]

@thorn zephyr the pc37x?

[storm osprey]

@grizzled apex can you use newegg and get no taxes?

[latent light]

@steep gust gigabyte used some kind of glue under the VRM thermal pads on my RX 580

using alcohol and a razor to get the glue off

[grizzled apex]

It shows it with taxes

Which is like 20$ extra because of new laws requiring taxes on online purchases on places like steam, Newegg, Amazon, etc:P

[storm osprey]

laaaame

[grizzled apex]

Tell me about it. American poltics have made my life worse by making me pay more than I should

[latent light]

all countries have taxes

hell finland has 24% sales taxes

buying something worth $200 there and end up paying $48 in tax

[grizzled apex]

It’s like what’s the point of buying something online if it is going to cost more? Isn’t the supposed to be the opposite

[storm osprey]

supposed to, but its not the rule

[prime jasper]

Enjoying free education and healthcare but don't like paying taxes? lol..

I'm spending 25k a year at school in the US so all of you can just quietly stfu 😃

[latent light]

you're going to the wrong school then

🤷

I can go to UT Tyler and pay only $7k a year up to masters degree

[storm osprey]

my gf spent so much going to a nice school for an animal science degree, she is now a vet tech.. i went to school to learn acad drafting for 2k in classes for a certification and we make about the same...

[prime jasper]

yeah if you arent sure about your career prospects but go for it a degree anyway it probably wont pay off lol

some degrees are worthless as anything except a stepping stone to Masters/Phd programs

[supple bane]

@mortal nacelle , i finally got streamable to work heh. only took days

[grizzled apex]

8k a year undergrad at UMASS Dartmouth 😛

Yet somehow I can afford a new 280$ graphics card

[minor turret]

thats because debt repayment hasnt started yet

[grizzled apex]

That is true

But I’m not in debt... yet

[latent light]

Intel took another AMD engineer

[storm osprey]

them deep pockets

[latent light]

nvm wasn't an engineer

[storm osprey]

they took the janitor?!

[latent light]

was a marketer

[grizzled apex]

Knowing intel, it probably was a janitor 😂😂😂

I have convinced someone to go team green

[supple bane]

nice

[grizzled apex]

Also that’s another reason I’m getting a gtx 1660 ti is because it’s great for streaming

And video recording

I don’t do it often but it’s nice to have

[supple bane]

also, i never realised how much bang for the buck you get with the 970

it just seems an sli beast

tis a shame sli is so bad

[minor turret]

once upon a time when SLI was more hyped

i had 2x gtx 660

never again unless its something like 2x 2080ti and you cant get better

[grizzled apex]

Doesn’t the 970 have 3gb is Vram?

[minor turret]

3.5gb fast, 0.5gb shite ram

[supple bane]

well it is compared to the 1060, and having 2 of those for a max of like £300, it is theoretically amazing, but sli sucks so in the real world it isnt that good

[prime jasper]

nvlink is better anyway

[minor turret]

970 is considered so low end its like 70-80 euros used

even if its old now

[storm osprey]

970 is not low end, its the essential 1080p card

[supple bane]

its the best bang for the buck card imo

[storm osprey]

low end is like 750ti

[supple bane]

ik someone who has an sli of 2 980 ti's, and i think that they the 980ti is a rip off, never mind having 2 of them

[storm osprey]

970 was within 5 fps of the 1060

[supple bane]

i would rather have the 1660ti, than pay 200 more for something that only has a small performance boost

if having 2 cards didnt suck so much, i think that is a very viable route to go,

having 2 970's

its just, the money you save on the gpu price to performance, is wasted in having to buy an extra beefy psu

[turbid verge]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3vHlBIWwAApy6y.jpg

[prime jasper]

hello

[turbid verge]

😂 👌

[grizzled apex]

That sums up Best Buy gaming desktops

[prime jasper]

who uses hdd in 2019

[grizzled apex]

^^

[supple bane]

me

very cheap

[prime jasper]

ssd is dirt cheap

[minor turret]

lel, must be in muricah. We have 9600k/9700k, 2080, 16gig 2666-3200 ram, dogshit mobo, and barebones psu

[prime jasper]

already

[minor turret]

for like 1500

[grizzled apex]

Just glad I’m getting a 1660 ti

1060 3gb can barely run above 80 FPS on medium xD

[prime jasper]

@grizzled apex get the 2060

[supple bane]

no dont

its not worth the extra money

[prime jasper]

2060 = 1070ti

[steep gust]

get a 1660ti

[prime jasper]

so...

[steep gust]

or a 2070

2060 is not a great buy

[prime jasper]

@steep gust why

[supple bane]

you do realise that more power isnt always better right

[steep gust]

The price increase

is not worth the performance

[supple bane]

^

[prime jasper]

wut 2060 requires 500 watts power supply

[steep gust]

it doesn't

[prime jasper]

who the hell plays with less than that

[steep gust]

NVidia recommends more than required

[storm osprey]

msrp 1660ti is 280, 2060 is 350, for 70 bucks more you are getting generally 15 more fps... that doesnt sound worth it

[minor turret]

also whoever claimed that 970 is like 3% slower than 1060, in bfv benches its more like 30%

[steep gust]

plenty of people

[prime jasper]

@steep gust exactly

[steep gust]

You can get away with a 350w even on a higher end rigs

[storm osprey]

@minor turret https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGAYdJXvBM

[supple bane]

my gpu isnt even 200w

[minor turret]

unless of course talking about 1060-3gb which no one sane would buy

[steep gust]

Not that I would recommend it but hardware is efficient

[storm osprey]

3gb is fine for 90% of games

[steep gust]

just solder more vram on

[supple bane]

hides in box @minor turret

[prime jasper]

BUT WHO THE F MAKES GOOD SMALL POWER SUPPLIIES

[steep gust]

SFX do

[prime jasper]

THEY FOCUS ON BIG ONES

[pale wren]

Be quiet

[prime jasper]

LIKE 1000 WATTS TITANIUM

[steep gust]

Even the biggest SFX PSUs are like 750w

[supple bane]

YOU DONT HAVE TO WRITE LIKE THIS

[prime jasper]

OK

[steep gust]

uh the difference between the best PSU and a great PSU is very little

[pale wren]

Be Quiet

😂

[steep gust]

Be Quiet has mediocre PSUs

[minor turret]

and yet it benches ~15% slower than 6gb in bfv

[steep gust]

BFV is not the only game

[supple bane]

^

[pale wren]

come on guys

[pure raven]

hi, only PC here???

[supple bane]

anyway, the 2060 is dog shite in price-performance

[storm osprey]

@minor turret yes, there will be variance between cards on different games, such is the nature of things...

[pale wren]

I have GTX1060 6GB and Be quiet 600W and im running Battlefield on Ultra and Maximum Graphic

@pure raven kind of

[storm osprey]

if you have a 970, youre a moron if you went to 1060

[supple bane]

^

[prime jasper]

with ray tracing no doubt right ?

[minor turret]

There are plenty of good makers of PSUs down to 450w

[prime jasper]

:p

[storm osprey]

no one is negating that 1060 isnt better

[supple bane]

dont mention rtx

[minor turret]

you will still pay a premium

[storm osprey]

just that.. its not that much better

[steep gust]

RTX features literal trash

[supple bane]

its the worst thing to happen to the world

[pale wren]

im going to 2060 @storm osprey 😛

[storm osprey]

from?

[pale wren]

Evga

[prime jasper]

dxr is good if done right to the game

[storm osprey]

evga is a brand

[supple bane]

no it isnt

its never good

[pale wren]

oh yeah=?

[supple bane]

there isnt a singel example of it being good

[steep gust]

DLSS = blurry AA

DXR = fuck your fps for accurate reflections that do nothing

[storm osprey]

which gpu, like 970?

[pure raven]

I want to ask whoever has a console (Xbox One) @pale wren

[minor turret]

not even metro is a good example of RTX on vs off because they didnt put proper dev resources into non-rtx lighting

[prime jasper]

@supple bane just say no to every argument

[pale wren]

EVGA RTX2060 is very good

Change my mind

[storm osprey]

its good, but 1660ti is better use of money

[pale wren]

[steep gust]

not in price to performance

[prime jasper]

@pale wren it is good

[supple bane]

when you are putting out shit arguments of course im going to say that it isnt correct ya goof

[storm osprey]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html
its not bad in price to performance either

[pale wren]

@pure raven sry but you know PC players usually talk about the specs

[steep gust]

Compared to a 1660ti, its not worth the cost

Might as well save up for a 2070

[pure raven]

ok ok @pale wren

[pale wren]

@steep gust 2090

[steep gust]

That was funny once

[supple bane]

if you have any issues or questions tho, dont me scared to ask for help @pure raven

[pale wren]

RTX 2090

[prime jasper]

@supple bane i said 2060 is better value for the money than 2070 dumb

[supple bane]

ok

[minor turret]

if living a proper first world country with consumer laws, used 1080ti > RTX

[supple bane]

find me that message

and even if you did say that it is still wrong

[steep gust]

Are they using 3D Mark for price to performance?

[pale wren]

only people who don't no anything about Gaming say :

[prime jasper]

@steep gust they are probably

[pale wren]

RTX only Fix one mini pixel in Game

[steep gust]

That is what it looks like

[pale wren]

[storm osprey]

not really sure what they use to gauge price to performance

only site i know that does a chart like this

[steep gust]

I see a "G3D Mark score"

which sounds like the graphical score from 3D mark

which is a terrible metric to compare GPUs with

[prime jasper]

actually you should look at the memory bandwidth and clock speed

[storm osprey]

if thats the case, yes i agree, but as i said, this is the only source i know of that does a price to performance chart

[prime jasper]

and some other factors

[storm osprey]

only thing that really matters is FPS

[minor turret]

passmark has its own benchmark tool

[pale wren]

just laughing my ass off my friend whos jealous of me for getting RTX said:
It waste of money , it only Fix mini pixel

[minor turret]

but its equally synthetic

[prime jasper]

wtf is a mini pixel?

[supple bane]

^

[storm osprey]

you literally stumped the tech chat with that one

[pale wren]

@prime jasper that it make the graphic little bit better

[prime jasper]

oh

[minor turret]

RTX is so awesome that it fixes future pixel 3 mini

[pure raven]

@supple bane I just wanted to know if there were more users with XBOX who had problems with hanging the game randomly.

[storm osprey]

not that tech chat is only for pc, it just happens most users here are on pc

[pale wren]

@pure raven i play on Xbox but if you have problems with your xbox better call the Xbox Hotline

and PC

[supple bane]

most people on here have a pc because the pc population need a place to flex their specs

[minor turret]

not sure if talking to a dude in india will be very helpful tbh

[prime jasper]

@minor turret exactly

[pale wren]

no there is Hotline for Countries

[supple bane]

make sure not to give him your credit card details

[pure raven]

No no, @pale wren is not problem with the xbox is with BFV

[prime jasper]

and they use white names

[pale wren]

@pure raven coming back to you in second

[prime jasper]

with clear indian accent

[pure raven]

ok no problem man

and to know if there is a good video configuration in BFV for the console, I understand that there is not the same amount of options as in PC; but there must be something

[minor turret]

Ah yes, if you call german hotline indian dude will introduce himself as Günther

[pale wren]

@minor turret in Germany , France , etc. have own Hotline

you can call them and get fixed very fast i did more than a time

and speak German with me OFC

[supple bane]

ye, @pure raven . i would try your luck with the hotline, if not, then try here again maybe ?

just a question, what is the best pressure to have in the case, i only have 2 fans, and atm i have them both intaking, what is the desired way to have they setup?

[steep gust]

postive

[supple bane]

so both intaking ?

[minor turret]

that hotline is well hidden on their website for sure, gotta do many clicks until you get to it

from what i could tell

[steep gust]

depends on how your case is laid out

[supple bane]

its the cooler master master box lite 3.1

[prime jasper]

you have no exhaust fan?

[supple bane]

no, i have 2 fans, just wondering how to have them setup

[steep gust]

can you get more fans?

[supple bane]

not really

[steep gust]

They aren't very expensive

[supple bane]

im already using one adapter

[steep gust]

buy a $10-15 hub

[prime jasper]

my gpu gets up to 70 degrees celcius while playing games is that good ?

[steep gust]

If you could get another fan

I would do 2 intake in the front

one in the back

[storm osprey]

you want 1 intake and 1 exhaust at least, ideally 2 intake 1 exhaust

[pale wren]

Cooler Master and everything is good

[steep gust]

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I something like this

double sided tape behind the mobo

[supple bane]

isnt there a fan which is like usb or something along those lines ?

[steep gust]

ez

[storm osprey]

you mean you used all your mb fan slots?

and dont have a way of plugging in 1 other fan?

[supple bane]

but like, i literally just got the adapter, so bringing my self around to dash more money out would feel hard

@storm osprey yes

[storm osprey]

im confused

[supple bane]

i have a 1 to 2 ,4 pin adapter rn

[storm osprey]

you didnt have at least 2 case fan slots?

[supple bane]

nope

only the one

[prime jasper]

ouch, whats your mobo?

[supple bane]

hm110m-k

dont bother telling me its shite

ik XD

atm i have an adapter that gives me 2 fan headers

[steep gust]

Hell you can buy a basic PWN fan for like $10 that is pretty good

but once fans hit ~2000rpm they are all loud

[supple bane]

idc about sound

everything i have is at 100%

it doesnt bother me

[storm osprey]

i would just buy 2 Y splitters xD

or molex adapters

[pale wren]

what is better

[storm osprey]

performance will be the same

molex would look way cleaner

[pale wren]

AMD or Intel

[steep gust]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0F9H8A/?tag=pcpapi-20

[storm osprey]

amd for budget

[steep gust]

easy $10

[storm osprey]

intel if you dont have a budget

[pale wren]

lol what you mean

[steep gust]

Make sure your fans aren't drawing a ton of amperage through one header

[storm osprey]

i mean what i said

[supple bane]

for now, as one of my fans has a higher rpm than the other, i will have that intake, and the other slower one exhaust

[pale wren]

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT ?

[steep gust]

Most fans draw like 0.3amp so once you get to 3-1 splitters, you should really buy a splitter with sata power

[storm osprey]

generally speaking, amd is better under like 250 bucks, intel is better above 250

[pale wren]

oh that what you meant

[storm osprey]

thats just considering gaming only

[steep gust]

Just buy a 2600/2600x

Fuck intel at this point

[pale wren]

i thought you said : Intel for ppl who dont have enough money , and AMD is for rich ppl

[prime jasper]

2700x reporting in

[steep gust]

I can buy a 2600x for $185

It comes with a perfectly functional stock cooler

[storm osprey]

if you live by a microcenter you can get a 1600 for 80 bucks

[supple bane]

flexes living in the uk

my micro centre is a fucking tea shop

[steep gust]

vs you have the 9400F for $170

[supple bane]

also yes we spell centre different

[pale wren]

Welcome to England

[supple bane]

^

[steep gust]

which is 6c 6t that turbos to 3.9-4.1ghz (IIRC)

and locked

aka a bad buy compared to a 2600x

[supple bane]

the closest thing honestly here to a micro centre is a place that sells mainly washing machines and kettles, and at the very back have like 5 pre-builts and a row of keyboard, mice and monitors

[pale wren]

tbh some well think my Specs aren't the newest but i run every FPS on 100fps with maximum graphics on average

[storm osprey]

my pc is getting old

[supple bane]

my pc still isnt even a year old

[pale wren]

my specs are :

[supple bane]

and in this time i have doubled the fans, ram and storage

jesus, taking you long enough XD

[storm osprey]

lol

[pale wren]

I7-6700 Core
GTX 1060ti 6gb
Cooler master
16GB DDR-4 RAM
1TB Samsung SSD
3TB HDD
Asus Mainboard
Be quiet 600w

[minor turret]

tbh, if you are looking at splitters with power connector why not buy a cheap china fanhub with psu power?

[storm osprey]

4790, 1080, 16gb ram

[supple bane]

should will tell him the 1060 ti doesnt exist ?

nah

shush

[storm osprey]

huh?

[supple bane]

giggles

[pale wren]

but it exist @supple bane

[supple bane]

are you high?

[storm osprey]

theres a 1060, and then theres a 1660ti

theres no 1060ti

[steep gust]

There is a 1060 5GB

[supple bane]

^

[steep gust]

and like

4 variants of the 1060 with different memory clocks

[storm osprey]

but none are called a 1060 ti

[minor turret]

1060s with different amount of cuda cores too

[supple bane]

@pale wren just go to task manager and look what the exact name of the gpu is

[pale wren]

Yup im high @supple bane XD

[minor turret]

having GPUs with different amount of cuda cores, significant difference in clocks and significant difference in power draw with same model name

is so anti consumer

[steep gust]

Locking your GPUs down to the extend NVidia does on Pascal / Turing is also anti consumer

[supple bane]

also, what does ti even stand for ?