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dawn galleon
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it was from R/hardwareswap on reddit

latent light
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lol

dawn galleon
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its an MSI MAG27CQ

latent light
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that's how my brother traded his vega 56 for a founders edition gtx 1080

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using hardwareswap

dawn galleon
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yeah its really reliable

minor turret
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in my country vegas held up their value so well

latent light
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I wanted a Vega 56 pretty bad

minor turret
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didnt crash until 1660ti started shitting on v56

latent light
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Vega 56 is probably the best overclocking card

dawn galleon
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would it be worth it if i built a new pc with an RTX 2060 and R7 2700?

minor turret
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it has most likely degradation issues

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or possibly drivers that reduce performance as time went on

latent light
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no kyoto, just wait for 3rd gen ryzen tbh

dawn galleon
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my pc is on pending sale rn for 900 and im building a new one

latent light
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2600X is still good

dawn galleon
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dont they come out summer?

latent light
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yes

dawn galleon
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the Zen 2

latent light
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probably in june

dawn galleon
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ok actually thats pretty close

latent light
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almost 2 months away

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the announcement is pretty close

dawn galleon
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my new pc builds gonna be R7 2700. RTX 2060 , 32 GB RAM

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ill try to fit 1000 in that budget

latent light
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1070 Ti to 2060 is no difference

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they are almost the same

dawn galleon
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would i be able to get a 2070 in a 1000 budget?

latent light
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nah

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could go with just 16GB ram, still plenty even for streaming tbh

minor turret
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tbh only upgrade id go for is 1080ti or 2080ti and both have dogshit value compared to performance you already have

latent light
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^

minor turret
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maybe radeon vii if i wanted to tinker

latent light
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1000 budget means card that's 400 or under

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graphics card should be roughly 40% of your whole budget

minor turret
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a 1080ti used if you can snipe it from local market

dawn galleon
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ohh okay

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i got my 1070ti from ebay auction for 220

latent light
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lol damn

dawn galleon
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well plus 20 shipping

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so 240

prime jasper
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I just got my RTX 2080

dawn galleon
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it has no backplate tho

minor turret
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how long ago?

dawn galleon
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but its in vertical rn

prime jasper
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had some extra dosh to whip out yknow

minor turret
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240 sounds about right current prices

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maybe bit lower

dawn galleon
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about 4 months ago, been using it overclocked +200 mhz

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stable and sweet

supple bane
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I can get my 1060 3gb to almost 2100 mghz on the core clock LUL

steep gust
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+200mhz means nothing

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Say the actual clocks

long sphinx
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anyone here plays bf5 with a gtx 970?

supple bane
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It’s stable at around 2150 but gets slightly hot at that

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And memory I can get to 4200 mghz

long sphinx
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admin is typing 👀

flint locust
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@long sphinx yes, its not bad. I did overclock it and it runs high all the time

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lol

long sphinx
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solid 60fps 1080p?

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awesome

latent light
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if you want best performance out of your 970, turn everything to low and resolution scale to 80%

steep gust
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Everything should be low on lower end GPUs anyways

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The 970 is about what

long sphinx
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ill try my bf1 settings they should be fine

steep gust
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1060?

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eh no not really

supple bane
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roughly

latent light
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970 = 1060 3gb

steep gust
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BFV is a lot more CPU intensive than BF1

flint locust
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I play with the tryhard settings, aka low on everything besides a few on ultra

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usually 120+ fps

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Don't need anything above since i have a 120hz monitor

supple bane
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i should think about changing my settings really

long sphinx
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yeah i only bump post proccesing and shadows to high

steep gust
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shadows oof

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rip fps

long sphinx
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those make the most visual difference

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at least in bf1 i can manage those np

flint locust
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I was gonna upgrade but RTX series is... trash so not yet

supple bane
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Atm im @ 1080p and medium settings

latent light
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my RX 580 manages 80 fps with everything on ultra

long sphinx
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it makes the shadows so much better than medium

steep gust
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Meh the RTX lineup is bad at price to performance

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but it ain't bad

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I might buy a Radeon 7 and a waterblock tho

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That shit can scale nicely

latent light
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it's very hard to get proper contact with radeon 7

flint locust
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I upgraded everything else in my pc besides the GPU less than a year ago

long sphinx
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and post processing is night and day between medium and high

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at least in bf1

steep gust
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meh proper contact is worth nearing a 2080ti in some titles

flint locust
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2080ti costs $1500+ where i live, hard pass

latent light
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radeon 7 performance is better than 2080 in BFV I think

long sphinx
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2080ti is a meme

steep gust
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Yeah it should be way cheaper

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but its not

flint locust
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I have used the 2080ti before, meh

latent light
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2080 Ti should be $800 max

supple bane
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I’ve considered the 2060, I even think that’s over priced

steep gust
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Depending on how well the Radeon 7 scales into 1440p, I might go with it over a used 1080ti

latent light
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2080 $550
2070 $400
2060 $300

long sphinx
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used 1080ti>all

latent light
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does 8GB GDDR6 = 11GB GDDR5X

flint locust
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Might end up buying one of those from someone

steep gust
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@latent light uh no?

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Not how memory works

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You can't magically fit 11GB of data in 8 because it has a 6 instead of a 5

long sphinx
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he means price i guess

latent light
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idk, some dude told me that 6GB gddr6 is as good as 8gb gddr5

steep gust
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and he is lying

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bandwidth is not the only important thing in memory

supple bane
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I wouldn’t say so, maybe in games that use less memory just because it’s faster but I think in games where it uses more memory I think the more space will help more

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That’s just coming from my very limited knowledge tho so hehe

latent light
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when AMD was selling vega 56 for $280, they weren't making much profit

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I hope they don't ever make a consumer grade GPU that uses HBM ever again

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because HBM is too expensive

steep gust
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doubt they will

latent light
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HBM manufacturing and cost will never be as cheap as GDDR tbh

steep gust
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yeah

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its also not as old

supple bane
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Is that a good thing tho. The fact that it’s new is just saying that it hasn’t had as much time to develop and become cheaper

lunar aurora
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@latent light Thanks for the input like an hour ago about streaming BFV from a low-spec CPU.

Might have surprised you but it runs pretty well on High settings, if you have a good GPU of course. Seems like I gotta save up a lot more money, hopefully by Black Friday deals will be better.

steep gust
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40fps is large fights is not pretty good LUL

lunar aurora
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I actually get 60+ FPS woahtea

cedar kraken
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How come the dlss cant be turned on I have a 2080

latent light
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do you have DXR on?

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DLSS requires DXR to be enabled

cedar kraken
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Yes

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I'll try it again tonight because I have eww the new drivers now

grizzled apex
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Too bad graphics cards are becoming expensive

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It’s hard to find a sub-200$ that gives over 80 FPS on decent settings

latent light
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RX 570/580 probably will

prime jasper
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Predator is a mod

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lel

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@steep gust Congrats

steep gust
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I got an orange name aka hardcore shitposter woahtea

latent sapphire
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P much

molten bramble
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uh

coarse nimbus
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smh these trainees getting full of themselves FeelsMeowMan

latent light
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Google is using a Radeon Pro V340 which is a dual Vega 56 on the same PCB

red sundial
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i have gtx 1080ti / i7 8700k / 16gb ram ddr4 3000mhz is that normal i have 90 to 113 fps in low settings ? bcz in some benchmarks i seen ppl with same pc specs in low settings have a stable 150 fps

latent light
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Do you have dual channel ram?

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That's unusual

red sundial
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yes i have

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8gbx2

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ps my cpu at 4.7ghz

sacred walrus
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How are peoples fx chips preforming in firestorm compared to regular multiplayer modes.

red sundial
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@latent light oh nvm i did dx12 on and boom 200 fps stable xD

latent light
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DX12 works great on high-end hardware

forest token
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well fudge, here I am still on windows 7 being a refusenik

latent light
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24 cores on AM4

lofty light
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Sounds like they want a better space heater than Intel

latent light
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GlobalFloundries's 12nmFDX process is an absurdly overlooked process that rivals TSMC's 7nmFF in many use cases, and in fact it would be a perfect candidate for the process to utilize for an I/O die-shrink for Zen 3 (Or even an RX 3050 or Zen 2 Laptop APU). That means AMD has nothing to worry about when it comes to filling up their wafer agreement with GlobalFoundries.

gaunt verge
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Anyone still getting 'No online access' on BFV?

steep gust
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@latent light rumors are rumors

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Dual channel is not enough for 24c

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And AM4 doesn't have enough pins

fallen harbor
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What should one get if they wanted a top gaming pc nowadays?

cedar arch
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i9s and 2080tis are the top of the line nowadays

storm osprey
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TOP gaming? yea you just pick the stupidest stuff and put it together

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i9 9700k, 2080ti, 32 gb of at least 3000mhz ram

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if youre competitive a 1440p 144hz monitor, if youre about the stats, some 4k monitor

supple bane
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@fallen harbor last time I checked the best gpu on the market is the rtx Titan pascal.. and best cpu on the market is an amd chip but I don’t remember the exact name

fallen harbor
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ic thnx

prime jasper
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Lel

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Both of you are wrong

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A correctly high end PC now is 9700k, z390 dark, 16gb 4400mhz ram, 2080ti matrix

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For the normal users

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If you have patience, 2 2080tis

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matrix is THICC

sonic osprey
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yep, I think midtier is now like 1070ti/1080 + 7700k

prime jasper
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Atm the highest end gaming possible, w3175x, 2 rtx titans, 4266mhz hexa kit

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In theory

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Testing this theory out as we speak

minor turret
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9700k for top of the line? nah bruh you go 9900k or bust

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@prime jasper arent practical differences between rtx titan and 2080 ti pretty much nil?

prime jasper
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For gaming the rtx titan and 2080ti are almost dead balls the same

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The 9900k would get curbed stomped by the 9700k from sheer clock speed and high ram acceptance since less heat by half

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9900k honestly is a meme

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anyone tips? When i played a game and quit the server and try to join a new server i cant connect for a couple of times... everytime i get that message about the bandwidth... but when i connect to a server my ping is just 20... So does anyone have a fix for this problem? Already forwarded the ports, deleted the files from origin, even refreshing DNS doesnt help....

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My buddy had this

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also called EA Helpdesk but they gave as solution delete the temporary files. Helped one time after that no single time... Did a UO Trace but there is no package loss

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Unfortunately your not going to like the fix

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My buddy fixed it by a new os install

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We still dont know till this day

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Well its just weird

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It is

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Same issue with pubg aswell

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It's really random

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Only other game i have this is bf1

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@knotty pilot that's nice

minor turret
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@prime jasper bruh, you run 24/7 chiller, use it on 9900k wesmart

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Has anyone tested whether new nvidia patch for firestorm does anything?

prime jasper
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Binned 9900ks are 1800+$

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There was only 2

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Not a very good out come

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I'd honestly go 2700x than even consider a 9900k

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But I'm using a w3175x now

prime jasper
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Join my server ZVEYfw

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There is no GenderPayGab

steep gust
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@prime jasper 3175X is worse than a 9700k / 9900k for gaming woahthink

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The joys of ringbus vs mesh

latent light
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he does overclocking and benchmarking

steep gust
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uh

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Not really

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Psycho is just about flexing on us users who don't suicide their hardware with his gaming rig and less about benchmarks

minor turret
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nah psycho is a nice person to have around

tropic wigeon
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Anyone else having trouble with crashing to desktop while turning dx12 on?

All my drivers and windows 10 is up to date. I´d like to play BFV on DX12 since it gives a lot more fps on my side.

But since the new Nvidia driver update its constantly crashing. Is there anyone else with this problem and might have a solution?

My system:

Intel i7-6700k overclocked at 4,4 Ghz
16GB Ram
Gigabyte GTX 1080ti

minor turret
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he suicides his stuff while telling others useful tips

latent light
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I wonder how he can afford the stuff

steep gust
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uh

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PayPal Credit HaHAA

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@tropic wigeon Go back a driver

prime jasper
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I got this CPU for gaming and benchmarks @steep gust

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You know this

steep gust
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Also some of the stuff is like "Don't do that, that will degrade it"

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Did you really buy a 3175X?

tropic wigeon
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Yeah I will give it a try now but wanted to ask if theres any other possible solution. Thx @steep gust

prime jasper
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Yes

latent light
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what motherboard did you get

steep gust
prime jasper
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Dominus extreme

latent light
steep gust
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I can see him already having the RAM, but that motherboard oof

prime jasper
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Also the w3175x has a faster single core than a 9900k

latent light
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$3,000 CPU and $1,700 motherboard

steep gust
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Also have fun delidding it

prime jasper
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And in games it's faster due to the hexa channel

steep gust
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I really doubt the 3175X has a faster single core at the same clocks woahtea

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Can we get a proper single core benchmark

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Not CPU-Z

prime jasper
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At same clock its tons faster

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4.5ghz = 5.2 9900k

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In games

latent light
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try cinebench single core HaHAA

steep gust
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Yeah gaming is a flawed metric

prime jasper
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Not really since we are gaymers

steep gust
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Don't you already have the HoF cards?

prime jasper
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Yes 2 labs

steep gust
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yeah that is why your gaming is better

prime jasper
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These results are done with gamer nexus

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Look at his results

steep gust
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Considering a 4.5ghz 3175X is drawing what

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700w?

prime jasper
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That's on normal water

latent light
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run the 3175X with only 8 cores active and overclock them

steep gust
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Then just buy a 9700k

prime jasper
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Exactly what I'm doing, HT off, 6 cores on

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I'm only doing this for the hexa channel

latent light
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basically a 8600K with hexa-channel

steep gust
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Which doesn't really boost gaming

prime jasper
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I'm very bandwidth starved

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It boost dramatically at 8k

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Where I'm at

steep gust
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don't you still have a 4k monitor?

prime jasper
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Yes 4k 151hz

steep gust
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and 8k is going to slam your GPUs and most likely your VRAM

prime jasper
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It attempts yes

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But games like gmod

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No

steep gust
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Gamer's Nexus review shows the 3175X losing to the 9900k

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in gaming

prime jasper
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The w3175x starts to be faster in games at 1440p

steep gust
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You gain a slightly higher average fps

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but your 1% and 0.1% shits itself

prime jasper
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Remember that's normal water

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Hes already overclocked on his 9900k

steep gust
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I was looking at the overclocked 3175X

prime jasper
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Now do the same results at anything past 4k

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Now that 8x pcie gets slammed

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And ram usgae

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Skyrockets

steep gust
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Then its not a CPU benchmark

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Its a GPU benchmark LUL

latent light
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how far could you get a 2990WX if you only had between 4-8 cores active

prime jasper
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That's why I said "bandwidth starved"

steep gust
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Yeah because its constantly loading stuff into VRAM

prime jasper
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Vram dosnt loose first

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My actual ram

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16gb of ram

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Gone

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Fast asfk

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That's not supposed to happen

steep gust
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Your RAM usage shouldn't change much with resolution 🤔

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as long as you have enough VRAM

prime jasper
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@latent light it will go slower since it needs its cores for each die

latent light
prime jasper
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Well let's try it. If I'm dead balls wrong, I can return it

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Also doing this to yeet kingpin and dr8 out of hwbot

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And 3d mark

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Since I do have 2.6ghz out of the gate gpus, and faster ram

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Specially kingpin

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Dr8 lost 2 channels

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From ln2

latent light
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can you return any hardware in the first month of buying it?

prime jasper
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Yes

steep gust
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Not if he suicides it with LN2

prime jasper
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Rma

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Is a thing

steep gust
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and that is well

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uh fraud

prime jasper
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Well kingpin is using is own drivers

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So dirty vs dirty

steep gust
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So I would keep that plan to yourself because you will find no support here or on /r/overclocking LUL

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KINGPIN also gets the literal best bins

prime jasper
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Everyone knows @steep gust

steep gust
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If you kill a HOC Lab I'll buy it as a desk decoration thonk

prime jasper
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Kingpin gets best GPU binn

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Not cpu

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His CPU scores arnt that good

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He does not get support for CPU side

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That's why he keeps using his 2 year old 7980xe

latent light
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I probably had the best binned 4690K in the world

steep gust
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Probably not

latent light
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5.25 GHz at 1.27v

steep gust
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Intel likes to keep the best possible bins

prime jasper
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Dis is true

steep gust
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and when you think they make millions of CPUs

prime jasper
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They keep the center of the wafers

latent light
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they don't keep the center of the wafer for every wafer they make

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they take a few

steep gust
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Also when does 3D Mark quit scaling with cores?

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I can't remember

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I guess GN saw good gains going from a 9980XE to a 3175X

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but like #2 has some pretty hardcore bins on his GPUs and CPU and is still 2000 points behind kingpin

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Beating 4 1080ti in GPU score probably won't happen meh

prime jasper
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Let me dream herald

steep gust
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dream hard enough (and buy enough hardware) and you might be able to

prime jasper
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But does kingpin have a daily mega chiller?

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Nooooooo

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King of da gaymers

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I dont flex much

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U know that

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Plus rtx titans are power limited

steep gust
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power mods duh

prime jasper
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No software or hardmods can save them

steep gust
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Just somehow get NVidia to fuck off with the power monitoring shit

prime jasper
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Find me anyone that actually did a hardmod for rtx titan

steep gust
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So you can epower them to hell

prime jasper
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I havent

steep gust
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what you mean a shunt mod isn't really a hardmod

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blasphemy

prime jasper
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Shunt only helps

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Not get rid of it

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People still hit limit when fully shunnted

steep gust
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yeah you would need to solder like an epower or something to force 1.2v LUL

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Bypass the entire power monitoring them

prime jasper
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Epower is the vrms squid

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Ooooo

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I see what you mean

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niccage not bad

steep gust
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How did der8auer force voltages on was it Pascal?

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Guessing that was changed

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Turing seems to have a bunch of dumb power monitoring because an engineer got bored

prime jasper
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Dr8 did it with a fucking raspberry pie

latent light
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for some reason, people think RX 580s don't overclock well when they don't know that a 580 is just an overclocked 480

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they are basically a factory oc 480

prime jasper
latent light
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If I put my 580 down to 480 clocks, I can undervolt it like crazy

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down to 900 mV

prime jasper
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Damn

steep gust
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Outside of the improvments

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as manufacturing nodes age, they generally get better

latent light
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like 14nm

steep gust
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well 14nm also had generational improvements

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Comparing Skylake to Coffeelake (at the same core counts) is a nice jump

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Intel eventually stopped sitting on their asses with Rzyen

sonic osprey
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Yo guys, play some games for a change

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24/7 talking in game discord

storm osprey
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im in here when im at work

minor turret
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@sonic osprey you play the game nab, a solid 20%+ time goes to loading screens

steep gust
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yeah I play Apex, etc aka a lot of down time

sonic osprey
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I play apex too, mostly like 2min downtime/16-18min

steep gust
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meh you can alt tab when like waiting around, etc

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I can type really fast so its not hard

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and games like Siege is probably like 60% downtime

latent light
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amazing value for such a big thermal pad

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400mm x 205mm x 0.5mm

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0.5mm is what I need for the memory on my GPU

steep gust
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Guessing the conductivity is less than ideal

latent light
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it's good for memory

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nothing more tbh

steep gust
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VRAM doesn't need cooling if you have good airflow

latent light
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tbh, I could just use little drops of thermal paste on each chip

steep gust
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My 1080 doesn't have any contact on multiple memory modules

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and I haven't noticed any issues

latent light
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how much wattage is a memory chip

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1-2W each on GDDR5?

steep gust
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The chips itself don't draw much

latent light
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the artifacts I get on my RX 580 are only on cold boot

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when I restart, they go away

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I think the memory is sensitive to cold or something

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if the card is already warm, no chance of getting artifacts on boot

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I probably won't get pads for the memory, considering how hard it was to pull the heatsink off the card

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the stock thermal pads were very sticky lol

steep gust
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My 1080 has higher power draw GDDR5 and its an expensive card and no thermal pads on memory did annoy me slightly

latent light
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it didn't come with pads on memory?

steep gust
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nope

latent light
steep gust
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I didn't remove any thermal pads there

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and that is very clearly a micron GDDR5X module LUL

latent light
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yeah

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was it new?

steep gust
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Yes

latent light
steep gust
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and it wasn't a "well we forgot" shit that they pull

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It was a "we didn't do it"

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Although the other modules only have a tiny piece of aluminum covering them

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with a probably very shitty thermal pad

lofty light
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What card is it?

steep gust
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strix 1080

latent light
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yeah, they never forget to do something on an assembly line because there's multiple people doing 1 specific thing to each card as it rolls down the line

lofty light
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Ah yeah, just saw the fans

latent light
lofty light
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EVGA used to be pretty lax with their pads until the 1080 FTW debacle

latent light
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may need to remove that block that surround the contact area

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because that would get in the way of airflow to the memory

steep gust
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EVGA's 1080 exploding was a bad batch of electrical components they couldn't test

latent light
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EVGA is good for RMA though

lofty light
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I have one of those 1080 FTW cards sitting dead in its box sadcat yeah it was but normal users just heard explosions and went NUP

vagrant quartz
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does anyone have a 1660 yet and how is your bf v performance with it?

mental lichen
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lfg firestorm room 12

steep gust
vagrant quartz
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you missed the lfg channel by only 4 channels

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not bad

lofty light
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@mental lichen please use the lfg channels

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!lfg

junior ploverBOT
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Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

prime jasper
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No fair... u guise can post pics

lofty light
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Yes

latent light
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is GDDR5X more power efficient than GDDR5?

steep gust
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No

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Its worse

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Its literally a binned GDDR5 running faster

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and that almost certainly needs more voltage

jade ridge
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what settings to have to get the best visibilltiy to see the enemies better ?

latent light
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That's not about tech, you probably get an answer faster in the general or battlefield channel lol

prime jasper
#

@jade ridge you will be permanently banned for doing any scripts for that mod

jade ridge
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@prime jasper im not gonna mod it, just change the ingame settings

latent light
#

removed the plate that contacts the memory

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just to give the exposed memory some more room to breathe lol

tame zephyr
#

In regards to FPS in BFV, in all but one map I have good fps (70-80), but in Rotterdam my FPS is lower, and stutters more. Am I the only one with an issue like that? I have a GTX 1060

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I even tried overclocking my Ryzen 5 1400 to 3.9 GHZ to see if my cpu is the problem, but that didnt help

lofty light
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@latent light is that memory plate a different metal than the rest of the cooler? 👀

latent light
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feels like aluminum

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@tame zephyr how many sticks of ram do you have

tame zephyr
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2 sticks, 16 GB DDR4

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2 8gb sticks

latent light
#

tbh, Ryzen 5 1400 will experience some stutter in BFV

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4c/8t under 4GHz just won't do that great in that game

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also if you have the 3GB gtx 1060, that could be a problem if any graphic settings are above medium

tame zephyr
#

I do have a 3gb 1060

latent light
#

what graphic settings do you play at

tame zephyr
#

Low everything except mesh is high

latent light
#

do you monitor VRAM usage?

tame zephyr
#

Not that much

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Theres the occasional check on task manager but thats all

latent light
#

my RX 580 averages 80 fps on all ultra settings 1080p
1% lows of 60-65ish

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I also have a R5 1600

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in which BFV favors more cores

tame zephyr
#

Interesting

latent light
#

1600 is at 3.8 GHz

tame zephyr
#

I’m considering upgrading my CPU and GPU soon, any recommendations?

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I’m still sticking to AMD in regards to cpu

latent light
#

CPU - Ryzen 5 2600
GPU - GTX 1660 Ti

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for BFV, an RX 580 would be a nice step over the GTX 1060 3GB tbh

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but for other games, maybe a 10-15% difference lol

tame zephyr
#

Will it last me a while? I was thinking the 1060 and r5 1400 would do back in 2017, two yrs later its okay still, just wish I can have more FPS

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I have a 144hz monitor, and nowadays the most fps i get is 60-80 on most games

latent light
#

BFV is the most CPU demanding shooter game currently

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you could maybe hold out for 2-3 months when the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs come out and offer better value and overall performance

tame zephyr
#

how long should the time be until you upgrade? I’m nearing two yrs with my stuff, so idk

latent light
#

forgot to ask but what is the speed of your ram?

tame zephyr
#

2400 i believe

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I tried to OC it, though its quite complex for me tbh

latent light
#

first gen Ryzen can only support 2666 without an overclock

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and an average user can only get to like 3000 max with an overclock lol

tame zephyr
#

lol

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but what do u think? Should I start planning to upgrade my pc? Not like a new build, just newer parts

latent light
#

yeah you could plan

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could wait for whatever 6 core/12 thread Ryzen 3000 series CPU comes out

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all you would have to do is update the BIOS

tame zephyr
#

well, I’m planning to strike for an upgrade during the summer/June

latent light
#

which requires a USB flashdrive formatted in FAT32

tame zephyr
#

alrighty

latent light
#

yeah June is supposedly Ryzen 3rd gen launch

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could be before

tame zephyr
#

Junes also when my pc turns two lol

latent light
#

lol

tame zephyr
#

But, I’m debating if I should go for a 1660 ti or go further for more fps

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I wanna do >144 fps on 1080p

latent light
#

for BFV, a Vega 56 beats a 1660 Ti and comes close to a GTX 1080

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Battlefield games have ran great on AMD cards for a while now

tame zephyr
#

Ooo interesting, plus my monitor has freesync so it’d be very beneficial

latent light
#

yes, one disadvantage is power consumption though

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1660 Ti is 120w tdp

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Vega 56 210w tdp

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although people don't care much about power consumption unless it's ridiculously high

vagrant quartz
#

which 1660ti would you recommend?

latent light
#

any of them that are on sale lol

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I should of gotten a XFX Vega 56 when it was only $280

prime jasper
#

dang, vega56 on bfv is alot better than I thought

latent light
#

it's pretty amazing

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it's very close or equal to a GTX 1080 iirc

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in this video, Vega 56 actually pulls ahead of the GTX 1080

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and the frametimes are smoother lol

tame zephyr
#

Is it better to go for a used vega 56? Stupid question, but the prices are insane

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For new

latent light
#

used vega 56 might be ok, just make sure you have a way of getting your money back if it's a scam lol

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@tame zephyr tbh, since you said you will upgrade by June, Navi will be revealed by then

lofty light
#

If you're tight on money I'd get used and look at probably a mid range NVIDIA card

latent sapphire
#

How outdated is an R9 200

lofty light
#

👀

latent sapphire
#

I'm tech illiterate and I haven't updated my pc in years but it still runs most things well enough not to explode

latent light
#

from 2014 I think

latent sapphire
#

Ouch

lofty light
#

I used to run Doom 2016 on Mac settings on a 650Ti

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Was actually real good for a cheap ass card

latent sapphire
#

I need a cheap new video card I think

#

Anything is probably better than what I have now

lofty light
#

Tbh only get a new one if you're unhappy with what you're getting in frames

latent sapphire
#

Id say I am at least with battlefield

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There's times where it runs fine and then other days it just completely shits itself

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I have to run it on medium and low

lofty light
#

What's your CPU?

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Oof

latent sapphire
#

I'll have to check, I've said before my PC is a Frankenstein's monster of parts I slowly upgrade when I'm feeling like I'm doing well enough on money

lofty light
#

Thats what most pc fans are tbh

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And my bros all have my hand me down parts

latent sapphire
#

I just have a bunch of stuff my stepdad recommends to me since he did tech support and PC building for a living

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I still have a broken ass CD-ROM drive in my pc and never cared to replace it

lofty light
#

Lol

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My uncle used to give me bunches of old computer parts to just destroy when I was like 5

latent sapphire
#

Lmao

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I would've loved that as a kid

lofty light
#

Main reason I got into tech now tbh

latent sapphire
#

Honestly all the random numbers confuse me, not to mention the terms all sounds like gibberish sometimes lol

lofty light
#

It's all just practice tbh sug

latent sapphire
#

Yeah my older brother said he'd help me get it sometime since he's gotten pretty experienced with it

latent light
#

thermal pads aren't that cheap

lofty light
#

Ooooooofffffffff

latent sapphire
hardy stump
#

more builds like cammo

atomic atlas
#

so does my life

thorn zephyr
minor turret
#

14.5x14.5cm pad of thermal pad for less than 20 bucks is not cheap? Oo

#

and tbh, can be had for less than 10 dollars if you buy a good chinese brand

finite torrent
#

I was about to say go to tech then I realized this tech.

lavish dagger
#

@latent light is the radeon VII showing up yet improvements or still meh?

steep gust
#

Radeon VII ain't bad

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Its actually quite good with a waterblock

lavish dagger
#

Been thinking about getting one to replace my 1080ti

steep gust
#

Not worth it

#

That is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade

lavish dagger
#

Yeah, nvidia added freesync but my bil or friend would buy the 1080ti and radeon vii would be almost free

steep gust
#

It trades blows with the 2080

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which trades blows with the 1080ti

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At fully stock

lavish dagger
#

In BFV it is faster

steep gust
#

2080 and Radeon 7 can overclock (Radeon 7 overclock farther) much better and beat out a 1080ti easily

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Radeon 7 with a waterblock can trade blows with the 2080ti in select titles

lavish dagger
#

I wonder if they've made driver improvements yet but faster than the 1080ti then

steep gust
#

That review is missing a lot

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1% and 0.1% fps

lavish dagger
#

Which I believe is better on amd's

steep gust
#

and one game

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at 1440p

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Is not a good reason to spend $700

lavish dagger
#

It would be sell 1080ti for $550 and buy $700 card

steep gust
#

for what

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5% at best in select titles?

lavish dagger
#

Not dealing with nvidia droppping driver support after 2.5 years?

steep gust
#

NVidia recently dropped support for Kepler

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Which came out in 2012

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Pascal has years till it will be out dated

lavish dagger
#

Yeah, but like the 6 and 8 series they had a bad habbit about reducing performance on them to push you to upgrade

steep gust
#

uh no

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That is very illegal

#

Games become more demanding as new hardware comes out

lavish dagger
#

Not really, but was very obvious on the 8800gt's

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They would ruin the open gl performance on them, if you downgraded back to old drivers performance would return

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But would require latest drivers to play newer games

steep gust
#

OpenGL is worthless for games nowadays

lavish dagger
steep gust
#

Anyways

lavish dagger
#

This was apparent in my geforce 1, geforce 3ti 200, 5700, 8800gt

steep gust
#

You should wait 2-3 years for driver support to start dropping (It won't for like 5 more years)

lavish dagger
#

I quit buying them after that

steep gust
#

then buy a new GPU

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Because tech is always moving forwards

#

So in 2 years the Radeon 7 will be out dated

prime jasper
#

yep

supple bane
#

any ssd brands you guys highly recommend?

storm osprey
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samsung

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crucial

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im sure theres something thats technically better or something like that, but for standard gamer, i dont see any reason to get anything better

supple bane
#

i dont know whether to spend the extra money and get the 1tb

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i bet i could fit almost all my games and windows onto a 500gb

storm osprey
#

qvo is new tech that is supposed to be cheaper to manufacture, but for all meaningful purposes, is worse than the standard ssds that has flash memory (i think thats the main difference)

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but flash memory prices have been getting cheaper for a while now

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so the price gap isnt really that noticeable

supple bane
#

well if i could m.2 would what i get not matter what but my mobo doesnt have a slot i dont think,

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well it would be impossible because there physically isnt any room for it

storm osprey
#

and the WD i remember hearing something about them not being worth it

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i dont recall if that was about their m.2 ssds, or an early version 2.5

steep gust
#

SATA SSDs nowadays are all the same

#

The only difference is read / write tolerances

#

They can all saturate SATA 3

supple bane
#

well the sata is capped at about 500 mbs so anything over that is a waste of money

storm osprey
#

i think the biggest selling point atm is warranty

steep gust
#

You might have some minor issues if you don't have any cache, but it shouldn't be bad

storm osprey
supple bane
#

i just need to decide what size i want really, and its the hardest choice i have ever made XD

storm osprey
#

are you doing anything outside of gaming?

supple bane
#

i do some cad here and there and the other main thing is programming but other than that no

steep gust
#

1TB is pretty cheap

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and jumping up to 2TB costs more than buying a second drive normally

storm osprey
#

500gb would be more than enough imo to fit the games that really benefit from SSD load times

supple bane
#

i looked and roughly a 500gb is half the price of a 1tb. so maybe i get a 500gb and see if i need another and if so i cen plop another in, and theoretically i lose nothing

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other than a drive bay

storm osprey
#

1tb does usually offer the best price per gb though

steep gust
#

500GB is around $50-60

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1TB is around $100-120

supple bane
#

ye so its a bout half

storm osprey
#

with how the prices keep dropping, i would think that going 500gb would be the best case scenario

steep gust
#

but 1TB drives are faster

storm osprey
#

yea but for just gaming youre looking at a 1 min load time different vs 55 second load time difference

steep gust
#

and saturating SATA 3 is not the only requirement for a drive

storm osprey
#

the difference for load times between ssds in general just doesnt justify the cost

supple bane
#

if i was to get 2 500gb instead of 1tb, i would have to stick one to the drive bay stand, from what i know it only has 2 spaces

steep gust
#

double sided tape

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Now anywhere is a drive bay

supple bane
#

ye thats what i mean

storm osprey
#

and thats m.2 vs sata, and its like a couple seconds of a difference

steep gust
#

NVMe vs SATA

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You can buy SATA M.2

supple bane
#

do you think i could squeeze them behind the back panel? then they could stay out the way

steep gust
#

Plenty of cases do

storm osprey
#

lots of cases have slots for ssds there

#

id imagine your case you could do the same

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personally i get either crucial mx500 or samsung evo ssds

supple bane
#

i mean if it dont the double sided tape is an option Chag

storm osprey
#

crucial are generally cheaper but samsung usually has deals that get them within 10 bucks

supple bane
#

im going to use a software to move windows as well btw.

storm osprey
#

errrr

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i dont recommend it, but if you must im pretty sure samsung comes with software for that and iirc it was the best software for that

supple bane
#

but the one i watched a tutorial on, they didnt show how to move individual files, only shows how to move the whole hard drive to the ssd

storm osprey
#

i THINK that software is only for windows

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otherwise you can just drag and drop

supple bane
#

i dont have a boot drive tho, so i wouldnt know how i would do a clean install of windows on the ssd

storm osprey
#

ive always had a boot drive so idk what to really tell you without doing research

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im just saying that iirc samsung has software for that and it works the best for that scenario

supple bane
#

im guessing you can only get that software if you have the samsung ssd ?

storm osprey
#

iirc

#

its been a while since ive really paid attention to the ssd ecosystem

#

atm im just waiting for prices to keep dropping

supple bane
#

well, what is the big issue with using a software to move windows over ?

storm osprey
#

since oct last yea ive been waiting, because they keep dropping

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and im not sure problems came about then or now honestly, its probably just the purest in people to want to do a clean install

supple bane
#

because im planning on deleting alot of the files before hand anyway, and then re-download the games i want onto the ssd and then use the harddrive as my file dump, because atm my pc is a fucking mess with the files

storm osprey
#

is this a NEED purchase, or a really really want?

supple bane
#

well i dont have an ssd

#

and people keep telling me its life changing

#

im tired notlikethis

storm osprey
#

its REALLY nice to have

supple bane
#

well

storm osprey
#

but honestly, its a luxury item

#

its like going from radio to spotify

supple bane
#

considering i only have 90gbs left...

#

i would need a new drive anyway

molten coral
#

I ditched my HDD, i've everything on SSD's.

storm osprey
#

or you could delete stuff

supple bane
#

stop trying to bring me round to not getting it XDDDD

#

you already done this with my gpu

#

jk jk

storm osprey
#

lol i know you though!

#

i do the same

molten coral
#

SSD's are 100% worth it.

supple bane
#

thank you

#

you will never stop me from wasting my money nyphon

#

muhahaha

storm osprey
#

lol i already have

supple bane
#

good point

storm osprey
#

or did you get a gpu thonk

supple bane
#

no

storm osprey
#

so yea happy

supple bane
storm osprey
#

since you dont have an SSD i wouldnt be opposed to getting one

#

i would get a 500gb and go from there

supple bane
#

fair enough

storm osprey
supple bane
#

the people that built my pc conveniently put 3 sata power cables in my drive bay ready, so i dont have to mess with that

storm osprey
#

samsung and mx 500 in top 3

#

i personally only get samsung and crucial ssds

supple bane
#

i might go with the 500gb samsung looking at that bar chart

#

i really dont think that im going to need a 1tb drive yet

storm osprey
#

what are the prices for a 500gb crucial mx500 vs samsung evo 860?

supple bane
#

i have a lot of house keeping to do with files, i have 600gb of family photos on an external harddrive, going through and deleting the ones i dont want isnt going to be fun

#

and then i should really do some house keeping on my pc

storm osprey
#

for me the mx500 is 10 bucks cheaper

supple bane
#

just checking now

#

ye same for me, £10 cheaper

#

another quick question, if anyone finds a white set of keycaps in the uk qwerty layout. please let me know....

#

i may have got an American layout kb happy

#

i have been looking for ages and i cant find any

#

wait... need vs want. its only the punctuation that changes, so i can just learn how to have it that way

#

IM LEARNING

#

nyphon, you have taught me well

storm osprey
#

lol glad i can help xD

supple bane
#

XD

storm osprey
#

its just my personal formulas and rings i jump through myself

latent light
#

not bad

storm osprey
#

ugh, just had my friend bend his ryzen cpu pins because he didnt lift the retention lever

lavish dagger
#

Radeon vii smoking in div 2

latent light
#

lmao, the RX 580 beats the GTX 1070 in Division 2

#

Vega 64 beats 1080 Ti

#

at low/medium settings even Vega 64 beats 2080Ti

lavish dagger
#

Yeah crazy

coarse nimbus
#

games biased against nvidia cards FeelsMeowMan

minor turret
#

wtf

#

is vega somehow offloading cpu load?

prime jasper
#

That's def driver issue's on that benchmark

#

there showing a 980ti loosing badly to a 1070

#

lel

#

1660 loosing to a 570

#

mmmm k

#

Yee this is def broken

#

asfk

balmy mica
#

i get really bad frame drop in BFv

#

like when i shoot my gun it drops to like 1

#

i have pretty much same FPS on every graphics settings

#

except from ultra

latent light
#

@prime jasper it's just division 2 optimization

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also, 980Ti isn't losing badly to the 1070, it's only 2% behind which is normal in a lot of games

prime jasper
#

Should be the other ways around pepethinking

#

I guess drivers are slowly making that card worse

steep gust
#

You can't optimize for just AMD tbh

#

and wouldn't make sense to

#

If anything, you can say Division has poor optimization if a 2080ti is losing

coarse nimbus
#

but that doesnt....that doesnt make amd look better? smh...do you not know how your own tech channel works 😩

rose forge
#

Hello I recently bought BFV and I'm having a a problem. I can't talk to people in game but i can hear them. All my settings are perfect, I've checked multiple times. everything i do doesn't work.

#

Any ides what this might be?

grizzled apex
#

Are your bonds messed up or are you pressing the alt key and then pressing tab and then realizeing your pressed alt-tab xD

#

*binds

#

Also does anyone know wtf is up with inputs? My game suddenly in gunfights starts to not respond and it’s pissing me of

rose forge
#

I've had that same issue over here and no my keybinds are perfectly fine

grizzled apex
#

It might be my keyboard though. I’m probably gonna save to get a new one soon

#

I’ll probably get a cheap romer g or Cherry MX red switch keyboard

#

Still pretty expensive to find them though

lofty light
#

@rose forge you got PTT on?

rose forge
#

yes I normally do but even when I turn it off it still doesn't work

lofty light
#

Hmm

#

And obviously the mic works out of the game as it should from the sounds?

rose forge
#

yes it works on everything else whether it be discord or games

#

just not on Bfv

lofty light
#

That's odd as hell

rose forge
#

I've even went through all my setting and still nothing.

flint locust
lofty light
flint locust
#

My fav usb

latent light
#

founders edition USB, does it overheat? Kappa

prime jasper
#

I want that thing

#

But it’s pretty damn rare

magic mauve
#

Hi. How can I create a server for bfv?

latent sapphire
safe meteor
#

Short answer, you can't. Extended answer, there's no Rental Server Program in BFV

latent sapphire
#

There's no rental server program at the moment but you can (hopefully) increase the chances of getting one by doing the survey in #game-news that asks how important you think it is to the game

magic mauve
#

@latent sapphire can I link to the survey?

latent sapphire
magic mauve
#

and for the bf1 as it is possible to create a server?

prime jasper
#

does anyone else have these terrible lags

past parrot
#

Hello guys ! I bought BFV yesterday and I'm loving the game but I can't run it very well for some reason. It's not about specs since I run Battlefont 2 in Ultra easily without any FPS drop, is there any options to remove or something ?

#

So I put DX11 and lower frame rendering ?

prime jasper
#

in your nvidea settings in windows there is a specific profile you can run for BF V

past parrot
#

Oh yeah didn't think about that let me see

supple bane
#

so for ages i have been trying to work out why bfv was only using 3gb of my ram when some people say that it uses like 11gb..... ik realise that that was measuring vram. not ram notlikethis

#

im big dumb dumb

past parrot
#

Welp

#

it says it's optimized, lot of setting in high too

#

but in the end I have fps drops

#

Let me try

#

without DX12

#

It's perfect ! Thanks guys !

#

High with around 80 fps, perfect

#

Yep disabled it too !

#

Wait, DX12 eats more right ?

#

Well time to try

past parrot
#

Well I tried

#

But for me its the contrary lol

#

I actually gain around 20 fps

prime jasper
#

you know to run BF V on my 2014 PC I have this start routine, reboot, spend 10 minutes slimming the task manager to 24 processes, turn off win explorer, make sure im the only person/device on that line .. then can get 60 fps .. I would be willing to pay a sub to get rid of all that crap and not shell out 500$ just for a semi decent gpu nevermind all the rest of it

shut zephyr
#

I cant play bf5 on my craptop

latent light
#

I imagine the bottleneck of a system from 2014 that wants to run BFV is the CPU

shut zephyr
#

I can already cook food on it if im playing mc

prime jasper
#

yeah it is

shut zephyr
#

Melted my mouse pad once

prime jasper
#

lol

latent light
#

BFV is very cpu demanding

shut zephyr
#

windows 7 HaHAA

#

2010 craptop

prime jasper
#

IKR, like BF1 is smooth as silk on it

latent light
#

BFV takes 6 cores to run smooth

#

iirc, BF1 runs fine on a 4c/4t i5-3570 from like 2012

prime jasper
#

I'll have to have a look if this mobo can run a 6 core

#

mobo is from 2017

#

the original one had a ram slot malfunction

latent light
#

what CPU is it

prime jasper
#

i5 3470 OC'd to 3.6 GHz

latent light
#

yeah, 4-core CPU without hyper-threading will have issues with consistent performance on BFV

prime jasper
#

yeah its right on the edge, really I could spend a lot on it

latent light
#

the only upgrade for your motherboard is an i7-3770 or a 3770K

prime jasper
#

make much difference?

latent light
#

yeah quite noticeable difference but it still won't be greatly smooth

supple bane
#

my cpu only has 4c 4t and i can get high settings 1080p and just about hit 60fps

#

more averaged around 55 fps

oblique wigeon
#

@prime jasper i had a i7 3770k before i upgraded bf5 ran smoothly with a huge oc 4.8 so i woudnt reconmend i upgraded to rtx 2070 and ryzen 2700x

grizzled apex
#

Too bad my I7 can barely handle this game

#

4790k is killing my pc

#

Would it be worth it to get a network extender so I can use Ethernet? I have an apple router and it’s hard to find one that’s easily programmable

thorn zephyr
#

It'll be better than wifi

grizzled apex
#

It’s just getting to the point where WiFi is going from bad to worse from battlefield 4

grizzled apex
#

Should I get a G413 mechanical keyboard for 60$?

crude storm
#

no, i would buy a cherry

prime jasper
#

ok I got an SSD and moved the installation to it, very big improvement in performance

supple bane
#

@crude storm you dont have to get a cherry, the other key brands are arguably better now

grizzled apex
#

Romer g tactile honestly isn’t that bad looking at a 45g activation force

earnest umbra
#

anyone know how to use user.cfg file?

steep gust
#

Open it in notepad++

left citrus
#

i have a problem

crude storm
#

as long as it is yours 😄

molten bramble
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!dog

junior ploverBOT
molten bramble
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That's a long dog. 😮

queen cypress
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Its called Hotdog dude

left citrus
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@crude storm sad

vagrant quartz
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@prime jasper what are your specs and how big was the performance improvement?

slim nova
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can anyone help me? grand operation take like forever to load for me. until i can finally skip the text then it loads again forever and when i can finally deploy the battle is already running for some minutes. and this happens every single round.

Other modes all load superquick , usually i am one of the first to be in the game.

haughty dome
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You should buy an SSD and move the game onto it

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I think your hdd might be dying

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Currently, there are some cheap ones being sold on AliExpress, goldenfir (white) is a good option, for example.

slim nova
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its on a ssd

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its just in this mode that i have trouble

left citrus
rose forge
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Anybody else not able to go online with origin?

prime jasper
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Its strange, I have a new GT 710, old card broke and it was all I could afford. Rest is pretty standard , performance ...moved my BF V to a SSD I just got, improved my performance from a shaky 1376 x 780 50% resolution 12 fps nightmare to 1920 x 1080 normality at 60 fps
like a different game

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@vagrant quartz

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oh and DX 12 makes it better .. go figure

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old mobo and card had a slot break off, whole thing had to be junked

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I guess it works because this is a latest build 710 and not the twice as big OEM one from 2013ish

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techies may know why IDK

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old card was a 1050 but its very much RIP

quiet light
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are you not able to get exp when leaving firestorm when ur dead??

wicked forum
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Sure you do

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That exit loading screen of bullshit should show you

untold geode
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make games dont need money to run

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pzl

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Plz

steep gust
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what

molten bramble
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I mean, Apex is free, is it not?

steep gust
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Yes but Apex has a lot of issues

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like being a squad game

safe tangle
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hey everyone, i get randoms freezes on firestorm (pc) any idea hwo to repair my game ?

steep gust
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any overclocks?

safe tangle
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no

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i have read dx12 might be the problem

latent sapphire
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Normally it's just the best idea to keep it off

minor turret
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if fps >100 arguably better to have it on and future frame rendering off

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seems to feel better for me

steep gust
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future frame rendering should always be off

minor turret
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in dx11 the performance impact is unacceptable

latent sapphire
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Future frame rendering being off made the textures look straight out of a PS1 game

steep gust
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It shouldn't

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It literally has nothing to do with textures

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Its just a garbage version of vsync

minor turret
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it doesnt cap fps though

steep gust
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yeah but its still rendering future frames

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which is the issue with vsync

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vsync does 3 frames IIRC

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but its still not good

latent sapphire
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Wait maybe I'm thinking of something else

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Idk it all sounds like gibberish to me

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So I just mess with it and see what works

long sphinx
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cpu: Intel Core i9-9900K @ 3.6GHz

sonic osprey
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yes? you dont need that much cpu for apex

long sphinx
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3.6 rlly? how much is a 9900k

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550

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more than 500 dollars for a cpu and run it at 3.6ghz

steep gust
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what

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That is the base clock

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He just copy pasted his specs

long sphinx
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thats way too low, my cpu is 2.6ghz stock and i run it at 4.2

steep gust
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base and boost clocks are different things

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Your CPU will never run at base clocks unless you force it

sonic osprey
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yea but usually you say your specs like 9900k@5.1

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instead of 9900k oc'd to 5.1

steep gust
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yeah well that isn't a copy paste

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He also has "32GB 4000mhz" as his RAM without timings

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and his motherboard probably won't be doing 4x8GB at 4000mhz LUL

prime jasper
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@steep gust Why not? ree

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also future frame rendering on bfv is really fucking optimized than 99% of games with that option

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DO NOT do dx12

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that garbage is ton of issue's

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@steep gust You ever seen 6 sticks do 4400 cl17 for daily?

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@safe tangle dx12 turn off please, bfv naturally has frame stutters, but you can reduce the chances, do a fps graph line using msi afterburner

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monitor

tender tapir
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I don’t know why but my game isn’t going online

west siren
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You prolly don't have Xbox Gold or PS+ anymore

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That happened to me

tender tapir
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I’m on pc

west siren
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Oh

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You checked your internet

tender tapir
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My internet is fine

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Even other origin games work

west siren
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You....restarted your internet and your pc

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Oh

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Hmmmm

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I'm no professional so.....

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Also I don't have PC

tender tapir
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Ok

lime pollen
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@tender tapir Your game isn't connecting online?

west siren
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Other people are typing

tender tapir
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Yes

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@lime pollen

lime pollen
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Mm

west siren
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Let's goooooo

lime pollen
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@west siren Can you not.

west siren
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My bad

tender tapir
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My internet is fine except BFV

lime pollen
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@tender tapir try to see if your firewall is blocking connection

west siren
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Yeah. Also, if you have Task Manager, check if it's blocking anything.

lime pollen
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Or you could do a dns flush

west siren
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That's not fun

tender tapir
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What is that?

lime pollen
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Just try the firewall settings first.

west siren
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^

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And Task Manager

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If both are blocking something

lime pollen
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Stop.

west siren
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Wdym?

lime pollen
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Task manager wouldn't have properties blocking a game connection

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jesus

west siren
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I mean, mine did.

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So that's a lie

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Different game but still

lime pollen
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So what was the program in your task manager that prohibited game connection

coarse nimbus
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your task manager probably wanted to commit sudoku honestly

west siren
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It was Fortnite
And it was blocking some "Easy anti-cheat"

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And also fortnite didn't run well anyways on there so I deleted it after