technology

[steep gust]

RTX Titan kinda sucks ass compared to a 2080ti when going subzero

The reference pcb with the lack of different BIOS hurts

[prime jasper]

Yee atm 2nd place is a guy with RTX titans and he averages around 60fps in bfv ultra 8k

Im at 63-91

[latent light]

you got 2 of those hall of fame cards?

[prime jasper]

I do recently yes

[latent light]

how much were they each

[prime jasper]

I bios hacked my FE's

Each I bought without cooler for 1680$

[latent light]

lol

[prime jasper]

This is purely from a person knows a person deal

He attended the event

[latent light]

you put a waterblock on both?

[prime jasper]

Will be putting a heatkiller gpu core on them, mostly will have ln2 pots on them for next few months

[steep gust]

They really should not have came with a cooler tbh

[prime jasper]

Yee there water block sucks

[steep gust]

oh

rip

[prime jasper]

It's a byskii

chinese shit

[latent light]

gonna use this on both?

[prime jasper]

Yup yup

[steep gust]

Get Heatkiller to custom make a block :^)

I'm sure the demand for HoF waterblocks is huge

[latent light]

also in that photo, is that black heatsink even enough for VRMs

[steep gust]

Yes

mosfets don't really get hot

[prime jasper]

VRM's don't need cooling

vram

aswell

[steep gust]

yeah just have some airflow

[prime jasper]

I mean... it's in a deep freezer

[steep gust]

Now if your VRM sucks ass it might get warm

[latent light]

so if I take apart my RX 580 and put the cooler back on without putting in new thermal pads it will be ok?

[steep gust]

I mean... the freezer ends up off

[prime jasper]

The cold comes from the blocks

[steep gust]

so its just a big insulated box

Don't tear the thermal pads and you should be fine

[prime jasper]

Yee, use a flat razor

[latent light]

usually the pads tear and you can't do anything about it

[steep gust]

eh

mine didn't even come off the heatsink

[latent light]

[latent light]

I been looking hard for one of those big rolls of thermal pads

[steep gust]

and a 1080 is a lot more power hungry than a rx580

[latent light]

my rx 580 185w tdp

[steep gust]

yeah 225w

then add some more from increasing the power limit

[latent light]

only has 1 8-pin connector

[steep gust]

f

epower it

[latent light]

tbh the only reason I haven't taken apart my RX 580 is because if I do tear a pad, I don't have a spare one anywhere

and i don't know what thickness to buy

[steep gust]

calipers

[queen field]

of course it will

nvm sry, my discord didnt scroll down automatically

[prime jasper]

Any tech savvy people around?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

@prime jasper

[atomic atlas]

you actually talk in this server birdy

[storm osprey]

define tech savy

[queen field]

im new to computers

how do make apex run faster

[supple bane]

It really depends what you mean by run faster

[storm osprey]

put everything on low/off and play fullscreen

[supple bane]

Oh, I was thinking he had a bad internet connection

[storm osprey]

if you want a faster character, play octane, pathfinder, or bangalore

[queen field]

shit my dudes

i was meme'ing around and i got legit advice

apologises and respect ❤

[supple bane]

well, if you ask for advise in a channel mainly for giving help.... your probs going to get advice... but its all good

[robust light]

Hey, I've recently got the trial version of BF V to test the performance, and I've got to say, it's fucking atrocious, it's around 30-40 fps and stuttering on most maps on lowest settings. Im running RX 480 8gb OC'd a bit, I5 6600k @ 4.6, 16gb 2133hz, Win 7, on a HDD, any help?

[sonic osprey]

also press 3 to holster weapon to make apex run faster

[storm osprey]

@robust light turn everything off, future frame rendering, motion blur.. everything

and then toggle between dx 12 and dx 11

though, i think amd generally works better on dx 12 right?

[robust light]

From what I remember, dx 12 on fb3 is a fuckign joke.

also win 7 doesnt support dx 12

[supple bane]

maybe turn the resolution down a touch and then you might be able to bring the settings up a bit

[robust light]

I eat my words then. lol

[storm osprey]

granted thats a 1080

[robust light]

Though, from what I've googeld, people either get like 80-90 fps on ultra, with a i5 6600k and 1060

I shouldn't be forced to go fucking troglodyte mode to get more than 50fps

[storm osprey]

found a video for the division 2 and dx12 gets more fps for amd as well

yea all the videos i shortly just watched gave dx 12 more fps

[robust light]

Again, depends on the game, and I dont have win 10

so no way to use dx 12 lol

[storm osprey]

i mean, the only thing that looks like it would concern me of your specs is w7

[mortal nacelle]

W7 is you problem

Its hindering you gaming performers

[robust light]

Though, no other game has a problem with it.

[storm osprey]

ehh, unless bfv is the exception, i just watched a video comparing the 2 with modern titles and its the same

[robust light]

And assuming I change to W10, I doubt it'll be enough of an impact, for it to go into the 90's range on high settings, as in most benchmarks.

[mortal nacelle]

I Got a friend who had same problems in w7 just we other games . I told him to upgrade to w10 He was like Nah mate

I Finaly Got him to upgrade

And He was like What i now get over 100 fps in my games

But Thats my Take on it.

[storm osprey]

dx12 gave me a ton of fps

[prime jasper]

problem is you have the bare minimum RAM needed to run it, actually your whole system is at minimum specs for the game

[robust light]

Again, people with similar specs seem to be getting satisfying results

[supple bane]

does anyone know where the geforce experience is saving the automatic game recordings ?

i keep getting the notifications that it has been recorded because i got a multi kill yet i cant for the life of me find the clip in my files

so all its doing is taking up my space on my hdd

[prime jasper]

check your videos folder

mine tend to all be in there, even screen shots

[mortal nacelle]

%temp%\Highlights\Battlefield V

@supple bane ^^

[supple bane]

where is %temp% ???

[prime jasper]

Dx12 gives you performance because your CPU side is lacking

Dx11 is more GPU dependent

[storm osprey]

i have a 4790 and 1080, and dx 12 is better for me

so that doesnt make sense

[prime jasper]

4790 none k?

[storm osprey]

none k

[prime jasper]

In bfv is rough

[mortal nacelle]

@supple bane Press it in run %temp%\Highlights\Battlefield V

[storm osprey]

1440p

try hard settings, i dont dip under 100 fps

usually around 120

[supple bane]

ah found it

thanks man

[mortal nacelle]

Np

[supple bane]

[mortal nacelle]

I was Also looking around for it

For some time

[prime jasper]

I mean stock ddr3 will bottle neck real fast in bfv @storm osprey

So it makes perfect sense

Bfv is extremely CPU intensive

Your 4790 was really built to be with gtx 680, 780

[storm osprey]

🤷 still getting over 100 fps so im good

[prime jasper]

Nice, just explaining why your doing better in dx12

That's all

[supple bane]

@mortal nacelle do you know if there is a way to change where geforce saves these clips ?

because i would like to have it somewhere i can easily find

[mortal nacelle]

Nope

[supple bane]

see, such a simple thing like that, can make programs that are already as cool as geforce experience wayy better

[minor turret]

@prime jasper a random question, but do you have any idea why 1440p no AA would have a higher power draw than 1080p max 8x AA if memory usage is within 50mb of each other and gpu usage is at 99-100%?

noticed a much higher power draw in valley bench when testing two different scenarios, end result being OC fail at 1440p while stable at 1080p

[signal forge]

My gamee crashes a lot on PC

Can anyone help?

[mortal nacelle]

get better pc 😄

[prime jasper]

@minor turret what's your cpu?

[minor turret]

2600@4.25ghz

[prime jasper]

What's your frames on 1080with as vs 1440p

And what gpu

[mortal nacelle]

2600 is really a old cpu :S

[minor turret]

r5-2600 ofc

[mortal nacelle]

Oh lol 😄

[prime jasper]

Well AA goes to the CPU first for instructions then tells the GPU what to do, 1440p would be high draw because your GPU is working much more

[minor turret]

112 on 1440p and 107 on 1080p

only ran one run of both

[prime jasper]

Sounds about right

You have 4.25ghz on all cores in bios? Or is this the automatic oc?

[minor turret]

all cores

1.4v

i dont use it daily but for testing, drop it to 4.2 ghz daily

[prime jasper]

For daily you dont pass 1.385v correct?

[minor turret]

of course not

[prime jasper]

Good good

Guessing you have hynix 3000mhz kit

[minor turret]

3400 16-18

[prime jasper]

Runs stable on docp?

[minor turret]

no its a weird kit that i had to tweak

originally 3000 mhz b-die

[prime jasper]

So its 3000mhz b die kit?

[minor turret]

yes

3000-16-18

[prime jasper]

Hehe that's not b die unless it just came out when ddr4 arrived

[minor turret]

typhoon claims it is 2666 BCRC

[prime jasper]

Even for 3200mhz b die is cl14

Ahhh

I see

[minor turret]

also, the FPS in valley on 1440p

was achieved by forcefully dropping voltage and clocks

from 1.093v to 1.030v and clocks by 50 mhz

otherwise it would outright fail due to power draw

[prime jasper]

Fail as in crash?

[minor turret]

https://imgur.com/a/TGEI4bv and https://imgur.com/a/FI6sNBs

as in stutter with heavy fps drops

[signal forge]

None of you have experienced crash?

[prime jasper]

Only unstable clocks in bfv crash, extremely rare for frostbite to randomly crash

[minor turret]

ah those are benches i did before i put to 4250 to improve scores, dont know where i have pics to them

[signal forge]

Unstable clocks?

[prime jasper]

Yeah, even stock settings will be unstable, all depends in the chip

[signal forge]

I have a decent PC.
Gtx 1070,i7 8700k,16gb ddr4 3000mhz

[prime jasper]

You OC'd anything @signal forge?

[signal forge]

Boo

Noo*

[prime jasper]

Mointor your volts and temps while playing

Using msi afterburner

[signal forge]

56°C

[prime jasper]

56c for everything?

@minor turret also for ryzen, unstable ram will loose alot of CPU performance, sometimes wont crash because it forces windows to continue on

Try your xmp vs on and off at 4.1

[minor turret]

Would be an intermittent error, passing HCI1100%

[prime jasper]

Even 1 error enough

[minor turret]

oh fuck me i will actually test that then

i assumed any error not spotted by 1000% would be a goddamn unicorn

[prime jasper]

Dude I know whatcha mean, sorry if I seem anal... even doing multiple memtest for days will only spit 1 error and that alone will fuck fps

Memtest = 0 errors, aidia64 cache test = 0 errors

That's what your looking for

Same with prime95 small

It may seem way to harsh but in bfv, its needed

If you have a GPU in your loop, also need to have your GPU under stress while testing CPU

The water temp dictates what stable is on your CPU

Sucks backing down clocks, but what sucks more is worse fps, frametimes and stutters than a fx8350

[sonic osprey]

I had literally zero issues with aida64 or prime95 on my overclocks, but playing apex... multiple crashes :D

[prime jasper]

Recently?

[sonic osprey]

well i removed cpu overclocks and no crashes

[prime jasper]

GPU in the same loop?

[sonic osprey]

yes

[minor turret]

i hear apex really hits ram hard

[sonic osprey]

temps not an issue

[prime jasper]

There you go

[sonic osprey]

unless 50c gpu + 75c cpu is bad

[prime jasper]

Apex recently is 30% more optimized so your GPU and CPU will get hit correctly now

[minor turret]

i might hit 144 fps with 2600 then

holy

[prime jasper]

Even if your water temps go up by 5 degrees, that alone will throw off your clocks

Because before your fps was being dictated by the servers

No matter how good your PC was

They recently did driver updates and server upgrades

[steep gust]

@sonic osprey apex has serious issues with crashing

My hardware is entirely stable (from months of using it)

And apex crashes 3 times in 5 minutes

[storm osprey]

im lucky, i only crashed in bfv and apex combined less than 5 times

[latent light]

yeah apex is unstable as hell from whatI've heard

my friend has an i5-7400 and RX 580 and crashes every 30 minutes or so

and some people with the best hardware crash a lot too

[ocean valve]

I stopped crashing in Apex once I disabled 144hz for the game

[steep gust]

Yeah I had to drop settings to minimum

And I'm not disabling 144hz in a shooter

[sonic osprey]

latest drivers, 144hz, win10 1809, 'hc' overclocks, not good combo for apex

[steep gust]

Apex being optimized like ass is bad

[ocean valve]

Was crashing every 2 games, at least it fixed my issue temporaly :/

[steep gust]

Its not hardware wise

Its Respawn

See the driver issues with rtx

[sonic osprey]

yeah had to play with 417.35 drivers

to get less crashes

[steep gust]

It was fixed but it was terrible

[sonic osprey]

bad_module_info, very common crash reason

[latent light]

is apex crashing worse than BFV crashing when BFV launched?

[sonic osprey]

for rtx yes

[steep gust]

for non-RTX

Yes

[sonic osprey]

[steep gust]

Hell I'd compared it to BF4

It would crash in the main menu

It would crash when picking a legend

it would crash doing literally nothing

[molten bramble]

A legend in BF4?

Oh, you meant comparatively, the legend was in Apex though.

[steep gust]

Yes

BF4 was the same way

[molten bramble]

I started running back through my DLCs trying to figure out which was the legends. Old brains on me. LOL

[steep gust]

Shanghai and tower fell? Crash

Game felt like you were having too much fun?

Crash

[molten bramble]

I never had it crash, but I did have it slow to a crawl

[steep gust]

yeah i played on a 360 then so

[molten bramble]

I mean.. 360 though, that hardware just crashed if you sneezed. LOL

[steep gust]

yeah well I had some minor crashing on PC

It was just that, minor

[molten bramble]

I went through three 360s, never had an issue out of my XB1

[steep gust]

Like once in a blue moon crashing

https://answers.ea.com/t5/News-Game-Updates/PC-Patch-Live-Now-An-Update-on-PC-Crashes/m-p/7718856#M21 look at that

dumbass game :^)

[sonic osprey]

changing memory is bad mm'kay

keep memory constant

[steep gust]

Changing memory that is being used by the program without telling the program that the memory has been changed is bad

[sonic osprey]

yah, I know, I (partly) do programming for living

[prime jasper]

but playing the blue screen game is the best part!

[steep gust]

it doesn't blue screen

it just hard freezes the game

[sonic osprey]

yeah, my latest crash was hard freeze, everything running in background a-ok, but cant kill apex or alt-tab

[steep gust]

You have to crtl alt delete

then open task manager

[sonic osprey]

nope, could not get any window to foreground

apex was always in foreground

ctrl-alt-del showed the dialog, could launch task manager, but it just would not go to foreground

[latent light]

happened to me with war thunder crashes

[steep gust]

oh yeah

[latent light]

the game would dominate the screen and wouldn't even let task manager pop-up over it

[steep gust]

you need to set task manager to always be on top

Also Apex just crashed

[sonic osprey]

oh that dialog has that option as well

[steep gust]

Next time I'll let it error

instead of killing it

[sonic osprey]

should just bind a macro key to kill apex.exe

[steep gust]

meh

I found dropping all settings to lowest possible fixed my crashing yesterday

[latent light]

Google Stadia could make game developers optimize for Crossfire on AMD cards

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/google-stadia-multi-gpu-gaming/

[pale wren]

guys

you must get RTX 2060 ,its cheap and very good

[steep gust]

its not cheap

or worthwhile compared to a 1660ti

[latent light]

tbh 1660Ti isn't impressive either, 1070 performance 3 years later for only $50 less

[storm osprey]

this puts it at at least slightly better than 1070 pef

but for 1080p, 1660ti is my recommendation atm

[steep gust]

average fps across multiple games

= shit benchmark

You are comparing pretty much the same generation of hardware

Just show the performance off in proper benchmarks

[latent light]

MSI rolled out BIOS updates for 300 and 400 series chipset for "upcoming CPUs" on wednesday

Zen 2 coming shortly?

[steep gust]

yeah a bunch of people have

but BIOS support means nothing on launch

[latent light]

do you think motherboard vendors have information on Zen 2 CPUs already?

[vivid geyser]

is gtx 1080 i7 6700k good for bf v?
if not why if yes with what settings

[latent light]

that's great at ultra settings

might try high if you have 144hz monitor

[vivid geyser]

i have 144hz :S

But idk this milisecond lags/stuns/stutters is so bad

[latent light]

could be the CPU

idk

[vivid geyser]

Yeah i believe so my cpu is old now

[latent light]

it's just BFV is the most demanding game on CPUs

[vivid geyser]

maybe i need to upgrade my CPU but idk what cpu's my motherboard can use:S

[latent light]

you already got the best CPU on that motherboard chipset tbh

I mean 7700K might be supported on your board via BIOS update but that's not a worthy upgrade

[vivid geyser]

So true @latent light so true

[latent light]

can you overclock your cpu?

[vivid geyser]

1 last question is it better to change nvidia 3d settings or keep it at default

Nah i can't.. I mean i never tried

[latent light]

I kept it default on my nvidia card

6700K has an all-core boost to 4.2 GHz, really shouldn't be having any problems with it

do you have dual channel ram?

[vivid geyser]

I was running the game over 120 fps but after the update it was like 70 or below then i stopped playing tbh

[latent light]

if an update messed up your performance, maybe a file corrupted in the update process

try repairing game files

[storm osprey]

i like gaming averages, its what ill be doing and its good to know what to expect

thats like people ripping on metacritic

[steep gust]

@vivid geyser Its binning your CPU

4c 8t ain't very good

My 1080 / 8600k @5.0ghz handles BFV fine

[vivid geyser]

yeah my cpu is bad

[latent light]

not bad

it's just BFV is the most CPU demanding game ever

[steep gust]

Its not amazing

but it ain't bad

[latent light]

I figured my Ryzen 5 1600 even overclocked to 3.8 GHz would struggle some in BFV because the clock speed but I don't get stutter

[steep gust]

clock speed =/= performance

[latent light]

if Ryzen could do 5 GHz it would help it a lot though

[steep gust]

not really

FX did 5.0ghz

and it was ass

[minor turret]

obviously thats assuming ryzen maintains its current IPC at higher frequencies

[steep gust]

Which it currently won't if you want 5ghz

Zen2 isn't hitting 5ghz on more than one core (and that is useless)

[latent light]

Google partnered with AMD for the Stadia, people are thinking this will bring back multi-GPU gaming from the dead because Google will pay devs to optimize for crossfire

[thorn vector]

don't know what to do so im posting this for maybe some inside help. So i have been having an issue trying to run battlefield where it doesn't start it goes to a small black window screen then crashes, i dont know what to do and im about to refund the piece of crap. So any help would be nice

[pallid silo]

So the division just loaded then restarted my PC then it loaded into windows again opened uplay and now its keep doing that and when ever I update to latest nvidia drivers it crashes my bf5 game all the time I'm so confused!

[latent light]

sometimes new drivers just aren't good

[fallen harbor]

guys uh

whats the socket of the i7 3770?

i dont know anything about sockets

i have an old i7 3770 but the mobo is probably damaged so id like to buy another compatible with it but shits just too old

so its hard to find

or to know

[latent light]

@fallen harbor H77 chipset motherboard

Z77 is an option too but is only better if you had a 3770K

[fallen harbor]

tyvm

[visual summit]

Anyone else notice stutters with r5 2600

[latent light]

I don't with 1600

[visual summit]

Like im getting over 100 fps one second

Then it drops to 2 for 5 seconds

Then it goes back to normal

Im thinking its thermal issues

[latent light]

2 fps for 5 seconds? Sounds like another issue

[prime jasper]

@latent light My buddy has a 1600 and rips hard, dude's pulling identical 8700k single core on cpuz.... with a 212 evo

That's another cpu people underestimate

[sand charm]

Does anyone have the trouble of after downloading the Fire storm update, The actual game keeps crashing whenever I try to play the game

[latent light]

8700K at stock?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[latent light]

I think if you put a 2600 at 4GHz and 8700K at 4GHz, the 8700K will have about 8% higher IPC

1600 to 2600 is ~3% difference in IPC

2600 to 3600 will be at least 13%

Zen 2 will have higher IPC than coffee lake but coffee lake will likely still have clock speed advantage

[visual summit]

[prime jasper]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head

But since intel is going for more core count

Mhz wont really favor intel since the heat

So who ever gets a zen 2 and cools it down enough, none ln2 intel really wouldn't stand a chance

[latent light]

I'll probably wait for Zen 2 refresh because I don't think I need to upgrade my 1600 yet

[near fiber]

@final trout What's your budget

[final trout]

probably $800

i could go to $1000

[near fiber]

You want me to include a monitor and shit in there

[final trout]

no

[near fiber]

or do you have windows and everything

mouse, kb, monitor, speakers/headset etc

you strictly want me to throw together a tower?

[molten bramble]

@final trout I just put together a brand new build totalling just under $800 for everything.

[final trout]

meh ill figure this out later
im kinda busy atm

[molten bramble]

Just gotta find the right sales and there is a lot of bundling going on the last few months that can save some coin.

[upbeat flint]

m8 amd rz 5 somthin g and maybe a second hadn 970

hand*

[near fiber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c2wp9J

Hows that look?

Nix the monitor

[upbeat flint]

where do u live?

[near fiber]

And add another 8 gb of RAM

[final trout]

what the heck?

where did you find that website

[upbeat flint]

second hand parts could save u a lot of £££$$$

[near fiber]

PcPartpicker?

It's like

[final trout]

why has no one in existence told me about that

[near fiber]

the foremost website for throwing builds together

[upbeat flint]

hhaha

[near fiber]

it's stupid popular

i dont know how you havent ever heard of it

[upbeat flint]

yhyh try building in here

[latent light]

never recommend a GTX 1050 Ti over a RX 570

RX 570 stomps it

[molten bramble]

PcPartPicker is a great site, that's where I started some of my research for the build.

[final trout]

thanks for showing me this site

[near fiber]

ok ace, but i pulled a random $800 build

[upbeat flint]

depends becuae how new the 105ti isu

[near fiber]

if i built one for him

i would recommend a second hand 1070

[upbeat flint]

yh 1070

[near fiber]

for about the same price

[final trout]

welp thanks guys

[near fiber]

keep in mind

[upbeat flint]

is banging i habe 107ti got on sale for same prace as a 1070

[near fiber]

when you build

[final trout]

im gonna check around this site now

[near fiber]

/r/hardwareswap

[upbeat flint]

yh do it

[molten bramble]

My 1050Ti is just enough, but it strains, so if you can find one better take it.

[near fiber]

second hand isn't as scary of a market as people make it out to be

Also, people

Please do not PM me asking for builds

Already been 3 people

Just use the site

Smartasses lol

[latent light]

the best sub $150 graphics card is the RX 570, gets 40% more performance over the GTX 1050 Ti

[near fiber]

That's all fine and dandy, but you'll have more headroom in an $800 build

580 or a 1070 in that range

with a Ryzen 1600

it's just fine at 1080p

Especially if you dont have to include a monitor, windows, or peripherals

[molten bramble]

Dumpster diving is still a thing as well, I used to pick up some pretty good hardware from places throwing out old stock.

[near fiber]

3 most expensive choice in a build are CPU, RAM, and GPU

Oh man

A fellow diver

i see

Radioshack was the most fun

back when they were still around

[molten bramble]

Heh, well, computer hardware used to be mildly unaffordable for the consumer 😄

Old habits.

[near fiber]

I used to do it for different reasons

would find old stuff to sell

[latent light]

$800 system isn't necessarily a budget build

[near fiber]

because i was super poor

[molten bramble]

Ah, yeah, we had a sort of 'flea market' for hardware in dallas every first saturday.

We'd pawn off kit that we had no use for.

Sorry, third saturday.

That'd buy a month's worth of ramen and whatnot while in college.

[near fiber]

poor crispy

got muted for a meme

[molten bramble]

Dallas had a massive telecom industry, so we were never hurting for hardware to find.

[near fiber]

Yea, rural KY is a different story lol

We had basically nothing

[molten bramble]

hah

[near fiber]

The radioshack was fine with me digging around

[molten bramble]

I mean... has that changed? 😄

[near fiber]

hell they started calling me to come look through it before they tied it up eventually

But that stopped when the manager had to quit

sad times

and yeah it has changed

My current friends got me into PC gaming 4 years ago

[molten bramble]

The land of Corvettes and Bourbon.

[near fiber]

Started out with an Athlon II x4 645 and a GT640

and now i have an i5 6400 and a 2070

because reasons

and the 2070 i got for $300

only reason i even thought about it

about it*

[molten bramble]

Hmm, not two I'd put together I guess, but whatever works.

how do you like the 2070?

[near fiber]

it was an upgrade from my 960 SSC

2070 is fine

[molten coral]

2070 for only 300?

[near fiber]

bottlenecked pretty good by my procesoor

[molten coral]

That is a killer deal

[near fiber]

processor*

[molten bramble]

2070 for $300 isn't a bad deal

[near fiber]

$300 for a 2070 is highway robbery

[latent light]

what cpu you got lol

[molten bramble]

Most I have seen go for about 500

[near fiber]

thats a $250 discount

i5 6400

[latent light]

oof

[near fiber]

that doesnt like to turbo

[molten bramble]

What board?

[near fiber]

H110M

i was super dumb when i put this together

[molten bramble]

Ouch

[near fiber]

i can link you a list with all my current kit

i keep one on PcPartpicker

[molten bramble]

Maybe I should build one of my build...

[molten coral]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jd9BJ8

This is my current build

[latent light]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bt93YT @final trout

[molten coral]

Although I've to update it a bit because I've thrown out my HDD and added a new 500GB ssd

[latent light]

$800

[near fiber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/lowrider97/saved/#view=yphsZL

That's mine

had to update it

Are you banking on him having to overclock that?

Because that mobo eats quite a chunk of the budget

[molten coral]

Worth it though

[near fiber]

Keep in mind, while it is worth it

some people dont wanna risk OC

@final trout Do you have plans to OC or learn how to?

[final trout]

You do know I'm not discord right now right?

[near fiber]

huh

[final trout]

Yes I left when I decided to check out the website

[near fiber]

ah ok

[final trout]

Have you been talking to me the whole time?

[near fiber]

been trying to some

Grim tagged you a build

thats pretty good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bt93YT

[latent light]

Could go with the MSI RX 570 instead

Gigabyte one might be ok, but I'll probably never buy something from them again because of their customer service

got a defective motherboard and RX 580 from them and they want me to send my whole PC to them to look at lol

[final trout]

lol i wouldnt trust that
probably steal your whole pc

[molten coral]

Gigabyte support is trash

[molten bramble]

Their software is shit, damn the customer service.

[molten coral]

Meanwhile Logitech is great in support.

[latent light]

if you send Gigabyte a defective graphics card, they only test it for like 5 minutes and if it doesn't show the problems in that short time, they'll send it back to you and make you pay full shipping

[molten bramble]

Logitech is just good all around in my book. To this day I steer towards their product line, with the exception of a trackball--I use Kensington for that.

[molten coral]

My G502 died like a year ago> Send a e-mail about it> gets asked for adress information> get send a new mouse + some stickers and a mousepad.

[molten bramble]

Wow

Legit

[molten coral]

Yeah

This was in the Netherlands though

The only problem I had with that mouse was that I couldn't click my mouse anymore.

[near fiber]

I love my G502

So good

Customizable weights

plenty of side buttons

[molten coral]

A lot of people are hating on my mouse because I use all the weights

[molten bramble]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/139100/the_10_worst_pc_keyboards_of_all_time.html#slide2

I've used some of these. 😮

[molten coral]

I'm too young, I never used any of those keyboards.

[latent light]

shift lock

[molten bramble]

Count yourself lucky.

When I first started using computers, we didn't have harddrives. :\

We also didn't have mice. lol

It's crazy to see how far the PC has come.

[molten coral]

I kinda hope something like Google Glass will come back.

[molten bramble]

Supposedly there is a new version in the works.

Something not as clumsy looking either.

[molten coral]

I know Intel is also making one

[molten bramble]

Didn't they make like 1500 of those?

[molten coral]

Yeah around that number I guess.

[molten bramble]

OH!

[molten coral]

It was also pretty expensive 1500 USD when it came out

[molten bramble]

I found an old TRS-80 the other day in a furniture shop. They had it as a conversation piece, but had no idea what it was.

[molten coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfwClgheF0

[verbal locust]

Hey

[molten bramble]

hi

[verbal locust]

I have a 1050 and I'm getting 40 fps

[molten bramble]

I believe it.

I have a 1050Ti and I don't get above 60fps.

[verbal locust]

Oof

I'm not sure

I think dx11

It's off

I turned it on

[latent light]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2273370266285182/

$100 for a R5 1600

[molten bramble]

I don't think you'll see benefit with dx12.

[latent light]

My old gtx 770

trying to figure out what that moisture is

looks like it's coming from the thermal pads

[molten bramble]

Looks like a combination of dust and moisture.

Weird pattern, but looks like wherever it was tightened down at mainly.

[latent light]

the moisture is non conductive

[molten bramble]

You multi-metered it?

[latent light]

or else this card would of died a long time ago lol

card still fine

just replacing paste

[molten bramble]

Maybe your fan/heatsink is that effective and creates condensation.

[lofty light]

770, that's ancient bro!

[latent light]

still gets higher fps than 2080ti

[lofty light]

Shhhh

Just because I run at 3K

[latent light]

go to 240p and this card gets 240 fps on BFV

this card gets similar performance to a 1050ti lol

[lofty light]

I've got a 1050M in one of my laptops

So not quite the same perf

[latent light]

one nice thing about this 770 is that it will overclock better than most 1050Tis

[lofty light]

Well new cards overclock like crap tbh

Gone are the days of 40% OC, here are the days of 5% IF you're lucky

[latent light]

well cards today have much higher boost frequency over stock frequency lol

[lofty light]

CPU's overclock bad too

[orchid cargo]

GPUs are already overclocked out of the box, their potential beyond that is typically small, my 2080 has i think 3 variants and price points. CPUs however, will depend on the make/model, i have my stock i5 8600k from 3.6 to 5.0, stable

my 7700k however i think is 4.8 stock and can only hit around 4.8 stable, could just be silicon lottery, but my 8600k is way better for gaming

sorry, 7700k is 4.2 stock

and i can barely push 4.8 on mine

under a 240mm AIO

my god im braindead tonight, 280mm

so everyone will have different results, you just need to get lucky, and pick a cpu model that can be pushed far

the 8600k as an example any off the shelf 8600k should be able to hit 5.0, its rare i see people only not being able to get that speed

but its rare for a 7700k to stay cool and stable at 5

i dont mess with AMD so i cant help with those, ive been in the game long enough to know that intel has been and so far will continue to control and dominate the market with a better product, sorry AMD. AMD for me has failed to deliver for too many years

[blazing quest]

I've i7 8th gen and gtx 1050 ti, and I'm playing at medium game settings on which i used to get around at least 60 fps but now after trial by fire update my fps dropped to 30 sometimes below 30 with same settings

[prime jasper]

@orchid cargo That's because of AVX offset

[blazing quest]

Anyone facing same issue?

[prime jasper]

Any hit's 5ghz yeah but still stock offset of 3 so it's really doing 4.7

Also you had a really shitty 7700k, mine and other's were getting 5.3 and was daily 5.5Ghz on ambient

Average 7700k's did 5.1

[molten bramble]

@blazing quest Someone was in here complaining of the same thing earlier, I've got a 1050Ti and only get 60fps myself

max

Must be something that happened with the latest patch

[blazing quest]

Did he mention any solution or any work around for this problem?

[molten bramble]

Nopew

[latent light]

welp my gtx 770 is dead now

broke off one of the small resistors on the left side of the gpu

[safe meteor]

Rip

[latent light]

or maybe it was missing one this whole time

left column at the bottom

[supple bane]

i was watching some guy buy an old system of ebay, it had a core 2 duo, i was thinking to my self good look playing games with 2 cores and then when the specs of it came round i was very surprised to see that it had a higher base core clock than my cpu

[molten bramble]

I was playing games up to this year with both a C2D and C2Q.

It's doable.

[prime jasper]

Ok the last time I've asked for help with something I ended up being busy with other things and never responded so sorry about that lol.
This game caps out my cpu and it causes microstuttering and sometimes pc crashes. I've found that locking my fps to 60 brings the usage down to around 80% but 60 just feels choppy for some reason. Is there anything I can do to reduce the cpu load or am I just stuck with it in this game.

[supple bane]

well what cpu do you have for a starter?

and what graphics settings are you playing it at

[prime jasper]

Woops forgot to put that in there. i7 9700k. I've tried low and ultra. only difference in cpu usage between the two is like 5-10% lower usage

Both also still end up stuttering or crashing the game at some point

[supple bane]

bfv is known for using alot of cpu power so its not just you that is stuck at 100% usage, but i dont know about the stuttering,

[molten bramble]

What's the storage, hdd or ssd?

[prime jasper]

ssd

[molten bramble]

How much room on the drive and what's the pagefile size?

[supple bane]

i have had it as well and i know it sucks, the way i fixed it was simply lowering the settings and that sorted it, but if you say you have tried that then i dont know

[prime jasper]

around 150GB free right now. How do I check pagefile size?

[molten bramble]

It's in Windows Advanced Settings somewhere

150Gb free should be fine though

[supple bane]

task manager i think might have something like that on there, im not sure tho

[molten bramble]

I had some issues with a fuller SSD and the pagefile causing some swap issues, dropped it into a different drive and didn't have problems.

[prime jasper]

Just checked it. pagefile size is 4864MB

[molten bramble]

You running dual channel memory config?

[prime jasper]

Yes

[molten bramble]

What's the temps like? What's CPUZ Hardware Info telling you?

I had an aircooled C2Q that ran really hot causing some skip

Older chipset but...

I'd OC'd it to 4.3Ghz, but on air so no bueno after awhile

[prime jasper]

CPU runs around 70-75c. GPU runs around 60-70c

When in game

[latent light]

Most important decision when installing Nvidia driver

[lofty light]

^

[latent light]

Damn this MX-4 paste did great

GTX 770 never goes past 70C and even got a little more performance

Before new paste, it went to 78C lol

Blew away my expectations

Then again, the old paste has been there for almost 5 years so it makes sense

[prime jasper]

yeah, people forget that, GPU base clock speed has been pretty much the same for a long time until recently. my original pentium 4 single CPU had a clock speed of 2700, at the time it was OP but only had 512mb ram

64mb video card

650 watt psu

going further back, my father bought me a packard bell pentium 1 in 1997, that was 200mhz, 32mb rm, 8mb video card, could run quake2 on medium settings

[molten bramble]

We used to take 486s that became really cheap when the Pentium line really started plussing up and setup clusters via FreeBSD on a bunch of them which ran just right.

Basically what server rooms have today, but with a lot more power than what we had then. We'd stack them 20-30 deep in comms closets since comsec wasn't really a thing for telecom then, run our own warez collections out of them collocated on 'borrowed' lines. 😄

[prime jasper]

lmao

[molten bramble]

messaging/bbs, etc. you name it

iTunes came along and we still had more songs for download than they did for the service at the outset. lol

That's when it was all relatively innocent to rip music

In fact, I remember Apple marketing their DVD burner in one of their Macs to do just that, and they got away with it

I think they had George Clinton as the spokesperson even

It came in handy though to have dozens of shells ready to go on hardened infrastructure, IRC alone could be a warzone, so you didn't want to login on your own line.

[prime jasper]

I remember my dad was marketing director for a big chain store (1998) and they had to make weekly "specials" newspaper inserts in freehand 7, they installed a very expensive data line from the studio in the city to the publishers factory, about 4km away, line speed was 10mb/s

yeah we had one of those imacs

bubble one

[molten bramble]

And honestly that's essentially all Discord is, IRC with a pretty package.

[prime jasper]

still runs

yeah

[molten bramble]

We were all trying to figure out how it might be monetized at some point, they did it.

[prime jasper]

4gb hdd 😄

[molten bramble]

Heh, I had a machine that had no HDD, we swapped out 5 1/4 floppies between two drives, typing commands, etc.

[prime jasper]

oh yeah 286AT

[molten bramble]

That was a real pain in the ass, but you know, we thought we were doing something there.

Looking back, everything was so constrained before the Internet came alive.

Telex trunks were expensive as well, overseas confs with AT&T weren't cheap (not that they were paid for 😄 )

Had a buddy of mine get hemmed up and slapped with a $22.5K bill from AT&T after they finally tracked him down from the confs he'd run

He was from Ireland though, so it didn't really play well.

I remember him having a garage full of old Tandys, he'd pull them out of businesses that were upgrading.

[prime jasper]

hahaha

[molten bramble]

Another one of my buddies got snagged by the Secret Service for pranking Bill Clinton after he'd exploited their PBX.

He was part of the phone phreaks in Dallas that got their peepee slapped by the feds

[prime jasper]

same also with international roaming, go on holiday, your laptop updates and one week later hello 20k bill

oh wow

reminds me of my college intranet and partitioning network drives to play dos games .. hide and go seek in the campus library, network admins sending campus security .. now this was 1995 and campus security couldn't tell a pc from a brick wall, .. good luck sadmin, you'll never take me alive

[molten bramble]

hah

I remember we took over the intranet one time in this university I went to, HDDs in those days were horrible chatter boxes of course. One of our guys ended up working up some code that we distributed across the machines. Ended up playing a symphony of sequenced sound for Christmas. Probably damaged the drives, but ya know.

[prime jasper]

hahaha

[molten bramble]

I use the term Intranet loosely, because most didn't have campus wide networks, they were typically in the labs only.

[prime jasper]

yeah they were a mess

[molten bramble]

Now, CAT5 is stupid cheap, but then people were still using BNCs

And when the Internet came along, the only places that could really afford it were the libraries

[prime jasper]

ever seen a 40 million $ destroyer go tits up because the 486 they used for the bridge computer would get a time conflict with the GPS time and reset every 5 minutes

[molten bramble]

So we'd spend hours gaming the schedule system so we could basically take over a terminal.

Sit there all day and the librarians wouldn't really bother us because most people didn't even know or care what the Internet was

[prime jasper]

yep

they sneared at them and went bck to those silly cards with holes punched in them

[molten bramble]

Heh, ah the Dewey Decimal system

That's a lost art on today's folks I think, but some day we're going to be without computers and poof goes the knowledge when Google doesn't work

[prime jasper]

zactly

one time in the east china sea, this Taiwanese fishing boat was charging from ship to ship getting positional fixes because their GPS stopped working

[molten bramble]

heh

That's a country I haven't heard about in awhile

[prime jasper]

nice place

well it was 20 years ago

[molten bramble]

I never made it out to the Pacific region, at least not yet, but maybe that's the next station.

[prime jasper]

I was lucky enough to go all over japan, still my favourite, so crystal clean

[molten bramble]

Heading to bed, night

[prime jasper]

ni ni

[agile siren]

Nighty night

[mortal nacelle]

@molten bramble you Where talking about phones. My friend dad worked for Big tele Company here in dk and told us how we could Call free from Anyone with a speciliy Sound

So Said the Sound Before a Call and the Call was free

It was some click Sound and then a High picts Sound

[lean wharf]

anyone here?

im building a pc

for the first time

stuck with cables that i barely know rn

[sonic osprey]

whats the problem?

[lean wharf]

idk which cable goes to which socket

[sonic osprey]

from psu?

[lean wharf]

wait

bruh no permission

ill send u a pic

[signal forge]

Guys emergency please help

[finite torrent]

.

[signal forge]

My game clashes everytime I change video settings

Every gamr

Bfv, r6 seige etc

[finite torrent]

Well I'm on Xbox can't really help ya, sorry.

[signal forge]

I7 8700k.
16gb 3000mhz.
256gb ssd.
1tb hdd.
Gigabyte gtx 1070 8gb

Come on someone help

[mortal dust]

Help

Hang on

Lemme send a pic of my problem

"missing permissions"

Wtf does that mean

Anyway

Whenever I try and boot up bfv on my Xbox it's says "error 0x82D40003 occurs when you launch a game"

"sign in with the account that purchased the game or app, or, of it's a trial version that has expired, purchase the game or app from the store"

This has never happened before

Why is it happening now

[finite torrent]

Do you have your disc in?

@mortal dust

[mortal dust]

I bought it online

Apparently I don't have the game anymore

It's installed but it says i didn't pay for it

Which I did

So

I just tried to uninstall and reinstall it

But when I uninstalled

It's gone

[finite torrent]

Did you buy it on the account your trying to play it on?

[mortal dust]

Yeah

I've been able to play it on other accounts too

It's like EA just decided I don't have the game anymore

This has happened to me with other stuff but never with a whole ass game

I guess I'm just gonna have to save money and buy it again

[finite torrent]

How many accounts do you have on your Xbox?

[molten bramble]

@mortal nacelle Yeah, that was called boxing. There were blue boxes and whatnot that that could emit certain tone patterns that would signal to the switching system the kind of call.

Can't really do it anymore.

[mortal nacelle]

nah you can't do it anymorre

but we used it for many years

after that 😄

[prime jasper]

Well that's your issue, it's not on PC @mortal dust

[solar pike]

im randomly freezing in game

any help?

[pale wren]

i7-6700 and RTX 2060 running BfV on maximum xD

[floral brook]

I'm in need of help. I almost never hit 60 fps even with these specs and i dont know the hell why? CPU: i7-7700k GPU: rtx 2017 8gb RAM: 16 gb

please someone any solutions?

[pale wren]

reset your graphics

[floral brook]

in game? i've already done that even uninstalled the game twice now

[solar pike]

fps limit?

[floral brook]

1444

144

[pale wren]

you use Wi-Fi or internet-cable?

[floral brook]

cable

@pale wren how much is your average fps?

[pale wren]

ok i just can Recommend you this

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Answer-HQ-English/ct-p/AHQ-English?profile.language=en

Average 80 Fps mostly above 100

[floral brook]

do you have future rendering frames on?

[pale wren]

of course or why would i need RTX

[floral brook]

dx12 or 11?

[solar pike]

for flexing for an overpriced item

[pale wren]

dx12

[floral brook]

should i use Future renderign frames?

in makes input lag but fixes fps so i dont know

[pale wren]

@floral brook go to EA AHQ

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Answer-HQ-English/ct-p/AHQ-English?profile.language=en

[austere kettle]

Probably not the right place for this, but I'm getting sick of this crashing!

Fresh windows install, repaired game, tried DX12 and DX11, no Overclocks, done sfc /scannow, done memtest and loads of other things:

Faulting application name: bfv.exe, version: 1.0.70.49765, time stamp: 0x5c8eb655
Faulting module name: d3d11.dll, version: 10.0.17763.1, time stamp: 0x13a31007
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000051bcf
Faulting process ID: 0xa90
Faulting application start time: 0x01d4e1a1b3bf3cfb
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield V\bfv.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
Report ID: 8353fa59-faa1-4ad4-98fb-868c78972a43
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

[pale wren]

don't what shall i say but for you @austere kettle as well , use EA AHQ
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Answer-HQ-English/ct-p/AHQ-English?profile.language=en

[molten bramble]

!support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[austere kettle]

Not going to lie, the amount of searching I've done on the internet no one from EA has given a definitive answer to this, it's all the same shit I've tried.

[pale wren]

they don't answer ,you maybe get answered from someone who have same problem , but EA development see your and try to fix it

[latent light]

thermal pads make graphic cards incredibly hard to take apart

the pads on my RX 580 are like glue

[supple bane]

i have an issue on apex where when ever i get an origin notification the games minimizes

well somtimes it minimizes, sometime it will freeze for a while then come back, and other times it will just stutter then come back

does anyone have a fix for this ?

[glossy tapir]

hi, how to fix the problem with mouse? (stutter etc)

[supple bane]

where is this happening, is it in the game or just on windows desktop

[glossy tapir]

just in bf 5

xd

[supple bane]

do you know what the fps you are getting is, is it a steady 60fps or higher, or are you unsure

?

[glossy tapir]

60

[supple bane]

i dont think it is an issue with the mouse, i think you are getting something called microstutter

[glossy tapir]

its the mouse xd

[supple bane]

is the game just freezing for like a brief moment or does the game continue and you just cant look ?

[latent light]

Rip stock thermal pads

They tore

[supple bane]

I was going to ask what card it was then I spotted the huge fucking red sign saying what card it was

[mystic stream]

Hello I have a question for anyone that wants to help. I have a 49 inch samsung ultrawide monitor. I generally play games at 1920x1080 in borderless and the game plays in the middle of my monitor while i can use each side of the monitor as if they were seperate. This works in all games EXCEPT bf5. I want to be able to stream this game and make content with it but it has to be able to play in 1920x1080. Anybody know how i can get around this. Even setting it to 1920x1080 and applying it in both windowed and bordeless still keeps the game full screen just stretched. Any help would be awesome thanks

[summer bronze]

what resolution is the monitor? If it's ultra wide it might not be 1920x1080

Make sure the "Fullscreen Device" is the desired screen

[upbeat crypt]

Another potential crash fix for some people that has worked for me:

`Open up Battlefield V__Installer\vc\vc2015\redist\ and select vc_redist.x64 or vc_redist.x86 if you have 32 bit OS. Install.

I was crashing because I didn't have it installed. I had a 2017 version and some other older versions but not the 2015 version. So I removed the 2017 version since it won't let you install the older version if you have a newer one. You can install the 2017 version later. But for now I'm not going to because it seems to have fixed crashing errors I was getting today. I was crashing every round, game would lock up. Since I installed the correct package (2015) so far rest of day has been crash free.`

[grizzled apex]

@tall hare your graphics card settings may be defaulting your resolution to 1920x1080p full screen. You can disable this in your nvidia or AMD control panel

[latent light]

can I smash a 2mm thermal pad down to 0.5mm to fit into my graphics card?

[grizzled apex]

May I ask why?

[prime jasper]

theres only one way to find out...

[latent light]

I took apart my card and the stock pads tore apart

[molten bramble]

you could, but to do it properly you'd need a press.

[grizzled apex]

I just use thermal paste

As long as it’s not the cheap stuff

[latent light]

I got MX-4 paste

don't wanna use paste because it will be a mess lol

[grizzled apex]

Just don’t use a lot

[latent light]

thinking about just getting little heatsinks and buying an AIO for my graphics card lol

heatsinks for the VRMs and memory

[cosmic warren]

my audio for my headset isn't working in game

it only wants to play through speakers

I can use my mic audio and I've put my Headphones as default in Windows.

[cosmic warren]

herp

[sonic osprey]

@tall hare apply these settings in the nvidia control panel https://gyazo.com/18f11284ff3d4c0ff1b2f3e8be0423fe

[supple bane]

guys my new kb came !!!#

i have been using this for like 30 mins and i already just want to type an essay on it

[cosmic warren]

wow so i fix my audio issue
i just had to update my mobo audio drivers??
never have to do that with other mobos? So weird

[supple bane]

yes when a driver of any type goes out of date it will usually cause problems

[cosmic warren]

yes but on other mobos i never update drivers for it

and it just well as Jensen states, "It just works".

[supple bane]

maybe that update made some big changes or when the update occurred, bfv wouldn't be compatible with the old driver or something along those lines, i dont know

[cosmic warren]

yeah

so weird

[supple bane]

i should really write a review about this kb, ik i have had it for less than an hour but the key catps feel amazing the switches sound great and feel great and even tho it doesnt have software it is some of the best rgb options and colours i have seen

i should wait tho and see if the cheap chinese stereotype is true where it will break after 3 days

[cosmic warren]

whats its called

[supple bane]

motospeed k87s

[minor turret]

@latent light mx4 is the cheap paste though

[restive pike]

guys whats the average frame rate with a RTX2060 6GB 1080p @glacial girder in Battlefield

[mortal nacelle]

@thorn zephyr ^^

check here

[supple bane]

@restive pike bfv isnt as gpu intensive as it might seem, i would say the cpu is more of a factor in that game. what processor do you have ?

[main coral]

is it ok to ask for tech support here re: battlefield games?

[supple bane]

thats what this chat is for

[main coral]

Ive recently tried to reinstall BF4 on my PS4 (with disc). I install the game fine, and as expected it immediately needs to download an update

[latent sapphire]

If you can't find your answer here either refer to support

[main coral]

I decide to play some SP whilst I wait for it to download

All good, can play SP fine etc etc

[supple bane]

right....

[main coral]

then when I restart the game after the update is fnished downloading

it keeps telling me the disc is unreadable, dirty/broke. It clearly isnt. its near mint and I can litrally use it to play the SP on, so i know its not that. Whatever this update is, it is breaking the game

[supple bane]

have you tried to clean the disk anyway?

[main coral]

yes, its all good 100%

ive uninstalled several times and the error happens only when the update is installed

[latent sapphire]

I'd say ask support or your retailer in that situation

[main coral]

ty anyway

[latent sapphire]

! support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
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[latent sapphire]

Just in case you need it

If it is actually broken for some odd reason ask your retailer, if it works for them it may be your disc reader

[main coral]

have no issues with others disk, im convinced its this patch, it only bricks whenever it finishes installing it

[latent sapphire]

Could be

[sweet ferry]

just wanted to ask
I have an i7 7700 GTX 1060 6GB 16GB ram
normally i would get 60 - 90fps lowest settings during start to mid game but towards the end of the game where battles are more intense and are in a smaller area it can go down to 35 - 45 fps

is that normal?

[molten bramble]

Have you tried cleaning the optical drive itsel? They gunk up with dust over time. There is a disc with little sponges one can put in to clean them off.

@sweet ferry You're going to need to report that. You're about the 11th person I have seen complain about that since Thursday.

!support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[sweet ferry]

@molten bramble thx ill report it

[molten bramble]

Best of luck!

[prime jasper]

My GPU is sagging like a Motherfucker
Scared something might happen to it
Does anyone know where I can get a Bracket or some sort of bar to place under it?
I have a GTX 1080 from MSI if that helps

I also live in South Africa so international Shipping is obviously a Must

[supple bane]

there are many tutorials on yt which show you the best ways to sort that out

[prime jasper]

Any you can recommend to me?

[supple bane]

is your case made so the psu sits under the gpu?

because if so i would just get a pencil or something and stand it on top of the psu and put the other end on the frame for the fans of the gpu to hold it up

[prime jasper]

I have the NZXT S320

Mid Tower

It has a little shroud built over the PSU

[supple bane]

just finding a pic of the case, one sec

[prime jasper]

No worries

[supple bane]

the best crude thing until something arrives for you then is just to get a metal pipe or a long dowel and cut it to the perfect length to hold up the gpu just until like i said something more professional arrives

[prime jasper]

What do you recommend?

A bracket or one of thsoe Bars?

[supple bane]

well you can buy things that do the exat same thing of getting a piece of dowel and propping the gpu up but both the proper ones and the crude dowel options are very obvious but a bracket is a little more out the way if you know what i mean

[prime jasper]

In the sense of that youre youre not gonna notice it

As much as a giant fucking rod standing upright next to your GPU

[supple bane]

^

[prime jasper]

Aight Aight

Whats the actual name for it btw?

[supple bane]

anti-sag bracket

[prime jasper]

Ahhhh

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Graphics-Anodized-Aerospace-Aluminum/dp/B076GYL25H/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=anti+sag+bracket&pd_rd_i=B076GYL25H&pd_rd_r=3a20ca3d-64a9-4d16-b8dc-0e8afcbc4e7d&pd_rd_w=mMJwQ&pd_rd_wg=d3Utu&pf_rd_p=5c5ea0d7-2437-4d8a-88a7-ea6f32aeac11&pf_rd_r=KMDXR09BVJF8PRXZ0RH9&qid=1553450444&s=electronics

This one looks rather tasty

Hopefully it ships to this degnerate Shithole I call home

[supple bane]

well if you are really worried like i said run down to the hardware store and grab some dowel and do what i said just until your actual bracket arrives

[prime jasper]

Yeet

Should I ask for Anti-Static or soemthing?

[supple bane]

nah, as long as you put on the plastic case that goes around the fans on the gpu it should be perfectly fine as its wood and doesnt conduct

and neither does plastic

just make sure you dont put it on one of the fans

[prime jasper]

Ye I will

Thanks for the help btw

[supple bane]

np

[molten bramble]

Not entirely true, PVC can introduce static electricity. I'd mount with metal at hardpoints or wood.

[supple bane]

i dont think the case around the fans are pvc tho... i might be wrong tho

[molten bramble]

Sagging of a card is fine so long as it isn't torquing your PCB.

[prime jasper]

I build my 20k$ PC setups on my carpet

Only once I killed hardware from static electricity

Out of 10 years

[supple bane]

ok

thats not totally random XD

[prime jasper]

It's not since its referring to static electricity

[supple bane]

oh ye

i forgot about that convo

[prime jasper]

Same

It's been years

[latent light]

I hate stock thermal pads

0.5mm tears easier than wet paper lol

[coarse nimbus]

use a straight edge razor to help peel it off

[latent light]

Nah they tore when I took the heatsink off the GPU

I thought warming the GPU would help

[lofty light]

Maybe it made it worse

What card though? Can't say the ones EVGA use are too bad

[molten bramble]

You warmed the GPU to peel off something that is more porous and absorbing (therefore flexible) when warm?

[latent light]

thermal pads are supposed to be easier to remove when warmed up

it's a gigabyte RX 580

[steep gust]

I never had issues with thermal pads

good thing they are cheap

[latent light]

I need 0.5mm and 1.5mm pads

0.5mm were used on the memory and 1.5mm on the VRMs

I got 2mm pads a few months ago but they are too thick and I can't squish them down

[ocean valve]

building a 2k pc rig atm. Would you guys get the 2080 or 1080ti ? Getting mixed opinions so far. both are almost same price / benchmark close to each other

[steep gust]

1080ti

If you can find one for $550-600

RTX features are not useful in any regards

[ocean valve]

Yeah I heard RTX is meh

[steep gust]

Its not meh

Its literal ass for what it is

[ocean valve]

fair enough

Any specific 1080ti brand I should avoid ? read somewhere the blower ones were a no go