and you can oc the 1660ti to get more performance
#technology
lofty light
But my point is if you're strapped for cash you can get a 1660 and get a 1660ti if you spend some time doing an OC
Besides there's not many cards nowadays that let you jump a price bracket just by OC
grizzled apex
The only thing I recommend Best Buy for is really just product testing and their every so often sales. Hell, I picked up my g602 for like 40$
grizzled apex
Should I get this keyboard?
I’m really just using it for light gaming and writing papers
solar pike
No
fiery carbon
why is my frame capped at my monitor refresh rate? i didnt touch those options in setting
storm osprey
check your gpu settings and in game settings
fiery carbon
but amd hasnt updated anything for these 3 days, this is strange
and my ingame setting is the same, and suddenly framecapped
storm osprey
those are the only 2 things i can think of that have power to do that
fiery carbon
i had this same issue in bf1 and bf4, reinstall the whole game fixed it, but that is a massive pain to do
storm osprey
so youre in game settings say theres no cap or no vsync, but its the game? and when you reinstall it fixes it?
storm osprey
try verifying files first
violet plank
usually you want the refresh rate a bit below your max monitor refresh rate for best performance
fiery carbon
how to veryfy?
violet plank
for high refresh monitors that is
fiery carbon
mine is only 75Hz, so it doesnt matter
violet plank
and vsync has to off ig and on in the drivers
if you got such a monitor
ah i see
you got too low fps or what then ?
fiery carbon
my fps is capped and stuttering too
violet plank
at what rate ?
fiery carbon
75
violet plank
and is set ig to what ?
fiery carbon
sometimes it jumped to 88-90 and then go back to a flat 75
200
not sure what was happening
fiery carbon
oh and another thing
my friend got constantly crashed when playing
he has a 1060
no error message, just froze for 4-5 seconds and bam
violet plank
be sure that nothing is overclocked,bf dosen't like that
storm osprey
if we talking bfv, the game just isnt that optimized to use it as a troubleshooter for your hardware
fiery carbon
nothing is overclocked
storm osprey
i have my gpu OC and i never have problems in bfv
ive crashed once in like 100 hours of gameplay
violet plank
me neither,but lot of ppl do/did
it's some kind of engine/hardware/sync thing i guess
storm osprey
im just saying, using bfv to draw conclusions imo doesnt make sense
violet plank
yeah
storm osprey
not to take away from dice, i imagine their games are some of the hardest to make
violet plank
what helped me with stuttering at the very beginning is setting pre-rendered frames to 1 and smthing else i can't recall atm
but that stuff has been fixed anyways
violet plank
there should be that option aswell ?
but that was an old problem,should be fixed since some time now
fiery carbon
what about the crashing?
violet plank
impossible to say withrout knowing the excat hardware and all the settings
try the ea support pages
there are some solutions for that,but it's all individual mostly
@storm osprey can do a !support for you
i guess
storm osprey
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ocean cedar
I need some help, no matter what video settings I have I get a rendering issue I think it's called (the 3 squares behind one another) that just makes it laggy, any suggestions to fix this?
storm osprey
ocean cedar
"low FPS" the icon is called. The first day I played it I could play with high quality graphics with 55-60 fps
storm osprey
that one?
storm osprey
platform?
storm osprey
wired or wireless?
storm osprey
so that icon i showed is packet loss, and has to do with your connection
your specs wouldnt influence that
ocean cedar
no wait not those ones
there are 3 boxes
in bf1 it is 4 boxes with 1 exclamation mark
summer bronze
oh this one
FPS could be a myriad of causes. Check your in-game specs and lower/raise them and see what help you the most. Turn off V-sync if you haven't.
If you still have serious problems you could be having a bottleneck. Check it here: https://thebottlenecker.com/calculator
violet plank
vsync off ig,gsync on in the drivers (vsync dosen't matter in the drivers if gsync is active),and 8gigs of ram is low for bfv
set prerendered frames to 1
on driver side
and maybe disable full screen optimisations on bf.exe
latent light
tbh 8GB dual channel > 16GB single channel
dual channel will give you like a 50% performance uplift in BFV
violet plank
if i read 8gigs i usually think of only 1
storm osprey
they do only have 1
violet plank
most premade pc's run with 1 ram
storm osprey
sorry we took it to dm so he could post pictures
violet plank
no worries
latent light
just tell him he needs dual channel ram to get much better performance
latent light
any i5 before coffee lake is weak
minimum CPU required for stable performance is i5-8400 or Ryzen 5 1600
storm osprey
yea, so he said he will ask his friend what he should do once i told him that stuff
latent light
I'm never buying anything from gigabyte again
my motherboard built in audio is constantly popping and the quality sounds like an old 1930s radio that's been submerged underwater for a few decades
violet plank
well,built in audio chips are all crap
latent light
built in audio on my old fx-8350 build was god tier
violet plank
i always use a dedicated sound card
mainly cause i need a good amp
nothing to do with gaming
storm osprey
and people say sound cards are worthless
i hated my onboard sound for my asus board
lime pollen
storm osprey
they are good for most people
violet plank
only gigabyte piece of tech i ever owned is my 1080ti i guess,never any problems there
storm osprey
violet plank
good luck with built in sound chips and 600 ohm headphones
storm osprey
what headphones you got?
violet plank
like i wrote,the use of the xtra card has nothing to do with gaming on my side
beyerdynamic
storm osprey
was gonna call it
violet plank
dunno them,but white ?
don't they look like crap in 6 months?
on the other hand,i replace mine at least once a year
storm osprey
ive had brainwavz replacements and they are good, idk about the pleather ones that i assume these are
i always got velour for open backs
violet plank
same,prefer velour
quaint topaz
My headset is white
storm osprey
i would back those headphones based on name alone
quasi sparrow
sound cards aren't worth it
for the money, an external DAC/Amp is so much better
@storm osprey what headphones do u use
supple bane
i mean, my dad wants a basic system for work and he really wants a sound card and im trying to explain to him why he shouldnt get one
he is determined that he needs it
prime jasper
tell him the soundcard is built in, problem solved
steep gust
^
supple bane
i have tried that, dw, he thinks that it isnt very good and if it is it wont have the connections he needs
steep gust
It has all the connections you generally need
and maybe more than a generic soundcard
supple bane
i might build the system tbh, like all he needs is an i3
ocean cedar
I fixed my issue
I had my CPU-Limit option on OFF so it took all the CPU. It works really well now!
thx for all the help anyways, appreciated!
storm osprey
@quasi sparrow i can say that with my onboard audio it wasnt good, and with the software that came with my soundblaster im happy. the cheapest amp/dac that people would recommend would probably cost around 100 bucks, the same as my soundcard, minus software. for gaming i use ad 700x, for music i have hd 6xx, but for music i use a schiit stack
my sound card has no noise interference that i can hear, the whole "taking it away from within the case" thing for pure sound i think is snake oil
which, imo, is a lot of the audio world because its not a easily measured thing
storm osprey
magni 3 and modi 3 are a compelling combo
id wait to see if jds labs come out with an atom dac though
the atom amp is impressive as fuck
pallid silo
Can a gtx 1080 do 1440p 120fps with bfv
storm osprey
i have a 4790, 1080, and 16gb of ddr3 ram, with a slight OC on my gpu and all settings low/off i get around 120 fps
dips to 90 fps
pallid silo
Ahh okay awesome xD :P does it look bad at low tho?
storm osprey
can hit 140+ in certain places
signal elm
will an i7 3770 cpu bottleneck 1070 ti at 1080p ?
storm osprey
yes, but will it stop you from getting 60 fps with a 1070ti? dont think so
@pallid silo i dont think so, im a try hard too and those settings are better for visibility
pallid silo
Ahhh okay that's fair enough xD :P I have a 144hz 1440p monitor :P so it would be a locked 120fps most of the time at low?
storm osprey
locked no, it fluctates, depending on a bunch of things of course
i hardly go under 100 fps though
granted, i probably do, but its in the thick of a fight so im not watching my fps counter
pallid silo
Ahh that's very true true xD :p I have a gtx 1080 and a ryzen 7 1700 :P bf5 is cpu intensive afff tho as I stream at the same time
storm osprey
youll get more fps than me, idk about streaming though, i dont do it
prime jasper
yeah streaming is easily a 25-35 fps drop for me
at least nvenc makes it not quite as bad as it could be
pallid silo
@prime jasper nvenc is poopy quality tho xd compared to x264
prime jasper
eh yeah I havent farted around with different encoders too much, I just use whatever streamlabs says it good and its good enough for me
pallid silo
Ahh fair enough!! XD :P I dont like streamlabs OBS :P OBS studio is a lot better as has more features xd
prime jasper
yeah I tried it and was like thats gonna be a no from me dawg...gotta make it nice and and easy for my lazy ass lol
pallid silo
XDDD :XDDD p obs studio is easier than streamlabs xd you legit add a camera game capture browser source for alerts and then done then later you can learn other features
steep gust
@pallid silo 1080 won't do 1440p 120hz
dawn pilot
Hullo my fruends, ze panzer engine haz broken, and I hit it wif ze wrench but it didn't vork und I don't know vat to do
quaint topaz
Google Stadia 
i can see it not doing good.
Main reason would be people like me with bad internet.
dusty wagon
should i pick up a 1660 ti and have a threadripper
grizzled apex
Do you already have a thread ripper?
dusty wagon
no
grizzled apex
It sounded strange in that context
grizzled apex
It depends, what is the motherboard and how much ram?
Shouldn’t be that bad
What resolution are you trying to run battlefield at?
144hz?
Should be more than adequate
I’d stick with 2070 though if you can,
You can sometimes cut back on the cpu and get a good gpu without creating a huge bottleneck. I’m not a huge AMD guy but the difference between a 2600 and a 2600x is very minimal
So honestly you can make do with getting a 2070 and a 2600
If the budget can afford it go for it, the better the gpu, the better the game can run
The cpu as long as it’s quad core, should run fine
I mean it’s only a 200mhz increase to a 2600x
There’s a bottleneck link somewhere earlier in the disscusion
I mean the bottleneck is only about 3% more (5.3-8.2) but honestly it’s not too bad, if your gonna get a 2070, your budget can be flexible to both cpus
Still, it’s not bad at all
Bottlenecking is when your system slows down because of limited hardware from one specific component
In this case, it will be the cpu, having a better cpu allows for a smaller bottleneck
latent light
2600X boosts to 4.2 GHz
2600 goes to 3.9 GHz
you might be able to manually overclock the 2600 to 4.2 GHz to match the 2600X
grizzled apex
Still, they are so similar it’s hard to tell
Especially when the prices fluctuate between 160-180$
And the difference is about 10-25$
latent light
2600X also comes with a slightly better stock cooler
found out that we got a battery back-up system but it's dead
doesn't even power on
junk
UPS systems are expensive
sonic osprey
please stop giving advice like "you can overclock x to match y", if you are gonna overclock x, that means you are gonna overlock y as well, so the argument is invalid to begin with that you can match x with y performance
now it might become valid if the oc headroom of y is so tiny that it simply won't overclock any, but that is really borderline case as there are not many such cpus or gpus on the market as companies can't really afford to push their products to the limits because of failures that would occur on stock
mortal nacelle
if you dont know what the f you doing dont overclock
even if you have a k cpu
or the overclockable ryzen cpu
latent light
all Ryzen CPUs overclock
mortal nacelle
this was not intel vs ryzen @latent light
it was a stetement about if you know notting you should not fuck around with it
latent light
you said "the overclockable ryzen cpu" which sounds like you are saying that only a specific one can overclock lol
mortal nacelle
Couse i as me dont know wich ones i only know there is some wich cant
latent light
every single one from Ryzen 3 CPUs to the Ryzen 7 can overclock
only ones that can't are the Athlon ones, but there is a few motherboards that even let those overclock
manic pewter
How is DX12 now, is it worth using?
latent light
DX12 is great on high end hardware tbh
manic pewter
ah ok
i seem to remember DX12 not being very good around launch
I've got a GTX 1070 and an i7 8750H
ill try it out then, thanks
prime jasper
prime jasper
Is anyone elses cpu nearly capping out on usage? On ultra settings I'm averaging 85-95% with DX12 and 90-100% with DX11, on low it's around the same usage. Also getting micro stutters I think.
haughty dome
If it's a 4 threaded CPU, that's normal
If any one thread uses 100% at any point, only then stutters happen, so the average usage doesn't really matter that much
grizzled apex
Man, I’m looking at the 1660 and it’s looking good for EVGAs model
It’s a about 20 FPS increase from the 1060 3gb
Also what really confuses me is that the single fan model is taller but smaller, while the double fan model is longer but shorter. Still
dusty wagon
what about the 6gb model
storm osprey
1660 from 1060 doesnt seem like a worth jump
grizzled apex
It’s actually pretty big
1060 3gb has a underclock vs the gtx 1060 6gb while the evga 1660 has a huge clock boost
storm osprey
unless you ran into vram limit problems on 1060 3gb, performance was pretty close to a 1060 6gb
storm osprey
1060 3gb video on high in devastation gets 60-70 fps average, 1060 6gb high settings gets 75-85 fps average on arras
storm osprey
golden standard is 60 fps, which both cards meet, and a 1060 6gb isnt going to be getting 144hz either
not gonna take the time to search for a benchmark that has the same map with same specs/settings
but its safe to say devastation is harder to run than arras, so on the same map i would think the 3gb and 6gb will be within 10-15 fps of eachother
supple bane
ermm, i have a question, why on earth does msi afterburner's osd show up on power point
ah nvm, i fixed it
for some reason, if i run bf and power point at the same time it opens the osd on powerpoint
storm osprey
and 1660 was getting 70-80 fps on the 1 benchmark i found for it, but that was sp, and idk the settings.
minor turret
@latent light isnt the main benefit of dx12 of dealing with cpu/ram bottleneck?
1060 6gb can get 144hz if you are willing to lower gpu settings
but 144 fps will require intel CPU
8600k or better
ryzen 2nd gen is a meme at 1080p 144 fps gaming
storm osprey
yea, hopefully 7nm changes that
granted, im on 1440p so i off put that load to gpu more
minor turret
its hard for me to justify 1440p until nvidia 7nm cards come out
or until AMD launches their next series of card after navi
that is built on a new architecture
storm osprey
i use a 4790 and 1080 for 1440p 144hz gaming
granted i have to put everything low to keep frames high
but i would use low settings anyway in fps since its better for visibility
prime jasper
what settings help visibility by turning to low besides foliage?
storm osprey
everything low/off
they say mesh quality on high because it renders things further, but that doesnt seem beneficial to me
if player models are rendered globally (i thnk they are) NOT having something render at a distance could possibly let you see them behind that object
violet plank
same here,7700k with 1080ti on 1440p/144hz,settings on low for mp fps should be self explaining
what sucks is that i would have more stable frame rate with dx12,but the micro stutters that occur every now and then are a no go
storm osprey
dx 12 is way better for me, and i only stutter like once an hour for like 2 seconds
so i use dx12
violet plank
now it's like 120-144 with some rare drops below
hmm did they fix it to run better in dx12 ?
i got those stutters every few minutes
prime jasper
works fine for me too, I get that same odd stutter but its whatever since it usually happens in the middle of nothing
shouldnt be every few minutes
violet plank
that's just too much
haven't tested it in a while tho
maybe i should give it another try
prime jasper
future frame rendering may have an effect on it too
minor turret
I personally think mesh on high helps when bombing
but if you have a bomber view/scope then it will still render regularly
thick inlet
hello, because I do not play the game in low with my rtx2060 I have a fx8350 processor and 16gb RAM I know it's old but I've seen videos on youtube that works even in high
??
storm osprey
yea i dont use vehicles, so anything i say is in regards to infantry only
@thick inlet i have no idea what you are asking
thick inlet
cant play mi pc battlefield v in low medium settings with GPU rtx2060 and cpu Amd fx8350 , but i see youtube videos people can play in high settings
prime jasper
dx11 or 12?
thick inlet
dx11 and 12 :S
storm osprey
you have a 2060 and an 8350, but you cant play the game at good fps? even though youve seen people play it
thick inlet
yes game is 60fps but the game falls to 10-20fps
i know my cpu is older but a cant understand people can play with fx8350 and not me
prime jasper
do you have vsync and future frame rendering off?
thick inlet
mmm ok thanks u all
scarlet rain
storm osprey
theres also that, but he said he gets 60 fps then it drops
i dont think an 8350 will push 60 fps at all on its own
prime jasper
yeah that would be rather hard with no igpu....
prime jasper
lol yeah only A series apu's had the onboard video
quaint topaz
Yikes. Don't go Gigabyte. Terrible software. The GPU RGB is stuck forever now
storm osprey
why is it stuck forever?
latent light
all my gigabyte products have something wrong with them lol
storm osprey
lol damn, ive only used their MBS and they have been fine
split storm
That's weird
quaint topaz
The motherboard is Auros
The GPU is G1 gaming which I think is in the Xtreme lineup
Two softwares from the same manufacturer don't go together very well apparently lmao
prime jasper
they dont have a unified software like Asus or MSI do?
quaint topaz
They have two softwares for GPU
and one software for everything RGB which barely works
Gigabyte software is all over the place
supple bane
its a really cool feeling when you actually fixed someones problem
storm osprey
oh yea
minor turret
like these 3 issues
are like the classic did you turn pc off and on
so basic yet so many have it
storm osprey
xD
minor turret
"guys i have 2080ti and 6700k yet i get 50 fps"
"single channel 2133 ddr4"
@steep gust you would be surprised how many have prebuilds/shitty coolers
steep gust
6700k and 2080ti is already shit
minor turret
not 50 fps shit
minor turret
which is then caused by one of three things i mentioned earlier
steep gust
or just bad hardware pairing
I don't understand the logic of "well I play at 4k so a weak CPU is okay"
minor turret
im pretty sure 6700k shits on 2600 in most games if its heavily OCd
steep gust
yeah
minor turret
so its not bad
steep gust
you know what you need to heavily OC'd a 6700k?
a delid
Most people are not okay with that
and a 6700k might hit 4.7ghz if you are lucky
minor turret
even if you dont go peak oc it should beat a 2600 handily
though 1/0.1% lows might be worse
steep gust
I just looked through some benchmarks
2600 and 6700k trade blows in some games, and the 7600k wins in games with higher overall FPS
but that is 1080p
steep gust
You won't pair a 2080ti for 1080p
minor turret
cloaking bad cpu performance by causing more load on 1440p is 
steep gust
yes it is
steep gust
My fucking 8600k at 5.0ghz doesn't do 144fps in BFV
at maxed settings
nor Apex
So
steep gust
That means nothing
You are then pushing for max fps
aka lowest gpu load
Most people don't enjoy their games looking like ass
minor turret
it matters if you are aiming for 144 fps gaming at 144hz
"and its more of a 2600 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz"
to quote you
steep gust
and a 2600 is more than enough for that if you turn down settings
minor turret
a 2600 at 4.25ghz which is way above average oc
steep gust
and 4.25ghz is not golden 
minor turret
is not enough when turning down
minor turret
yes 4.1-4.2 is standard, but 4.25 often hits a huge voltage wall
4.3 even rarer
though 4.3 2600 is the true golden sample
steep gust
and fun fact, if you are going for 1080p 144hz in every single game. You have to accept that Rzyen is not the CPU for you
minor turret
pbo is different because its not all core OC that will necessarily stick under heavy load
minor turret
agreed
steep gust
and if you can afford a 2080ti
minor turret
its a decent budget option
steep gust
BFV is special because BFV is BFV
storm osprey
1440p i think it would work
minor turret
it applies to many games launched in 2018-2019 tbh
1440p wouldnt hit 144 fps either
steep gust
Apex has some shit optimization
So you should ignore that one
Shit is putting it gently
storm osprey
but you are less cpu dependent, so if youre not hitting 144hz with ryzen youre probably not doing MUCH better with intel
steep gust
that beta was not very recent
and if you mean blackout then yeah
large open worlds generally hit cpus pretty hard
when you have a lot of players
minor turret
nah i wasnt talking about blackout
that beta capped fps
its actually unbelievable how hard black ops hit cpus
considering how limited it is compared to bfv
but 2600x > 4c8t in bo4 im sure
latent light
2600X and 3200 MHz ram must be nice
supple bane
I mentioned a little while ago that all of my games seem to be capped at 3 gb of ram usage, but I have 16gb and when I look at forums and other then people they seem to use like 12 gb, I still haven’t been able to fix it, is there any advice ? because I’m not experiencing bad frames but I have spent the money on 16gb of ram and I’m not even needing it
storm osprey
play minecraft
supple bane
grizzled apex
Like I’ve said over and over again, hav you tried putting your systems power settings to prefer maximum performance
I’m really shocked why this isn’t pinned
steep gust
because it makes no difference
we have covered this, I have tested it, you have proved zero sources
grizzled apex
...it does because your system will only use less system resources to perform a task when on balanced power settings to save power. Meaning lower FPS
steep gust
...source
prime jasper
windows power profiles are one thing, but some graphics cards have their own. one time somebody was in here saying his 2070 was way underperforming and turns out he was running it on the silent and underclocked profile lol
grizzled apex
^^
steep gust
yeah that isn't a source of windows using ram differently under different power plans
that is just someone being dumb and enabling the silent preset
grizzled apex
Sometimes it’s set like that to default. I upgraded my 1060 3gb from a 750 ti and noticed lower performance but found on the card was under power saving in Nvidia Control Panel
This is for an older game but: https://youtu.be/gdzpzbltoNQ
It’s hard to find YouTube videos about power options
That show something
steep gust
look at this part ```Performance Vs. Quality Vs. Balanced - Nvidia Control Panel
Nvidia Control Panel
steep gust
● CPU: AMD FX 6300 Black Edition 3.5 GHz
● GPU: Gigabyte Geforce GTX 960 4GB Windforce OC Edition
● HDD: 1TB HDD
● OS: WINDOWS 7 X64
● RAM: HyperX 8GB RAM (2x4) DDR3 1600 MHz
● PSU: XPRO BULLDOZER 500W Power Supply
● Motherboard: M5A78L M-LX3 Motherboard
● CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO CPU Cooler
● Case: Deepcool Tesseract SW Mid Tower Computer Case```Also that hardware is a little dated
grizzled apex
That 960 tho
steep gust
You might be able to squeeze a few fps with changing nvidia control panel, but nothing amazing
grizzled apex
Any bit of FPS is good
Even 10 FPS gain is the difference between winning and losing a gunfight
grizzled apex
Ok fine, I have no argument
steep gust
I can get 1fps by sitting here and pressing retry on my memory until I get good sub timings :^)
grizzled apex
Apparently I can max my 1060 on power saving and get over 80 FPS
steep gust
NV Control panel is useful for benchmarks
ie 3d mark is nice when you lower the quality
molten bramble
Where are y'all seeing that in the Nvidia Control Panel?
steep gust
3D quality thing
molten bramble
Ah
I thought there was some other section I didn't have showing for the 1050Ti. Wasn't tracking.
steep gust
There is a few more settings but they aren't reallly worth bothering with
prime jasper
Does this game utilize hyperthreading at all? I'm thinking that may be the cause of my high cpu usage/freezes since mine doesn't have hyperthreading.
Hmm. That first link is pretty much the issue I'm having. Average of 90 to 100% usage on my cpu
I'll have to do some more research I guess. The game sometimes crashes or compoletely freezes my PC after playing for a while. Thanks for the links
I'll have to check the logs again next time it happens. I never actually thought about checking event logs lol. The game locks up along with my PC so I have to force my PC off with the power button.
Just one monitor for now. Temps are fine, my GPU and CPU temps average around low 70s. I have afterburner running as my overlay for monitoring.
No worries. Thanks for the help either way!
lofty light
Lol
That means I actually have a CoolerMaster fan in my builds 
I'm no longer a perfect Corsair boi
latent light
storm osprey
Perfect
latent light
timings that my motherboard can only handle
anything lower and I get a failed boot
thank you gigabyte, very cool!
not even running at its rated 3000 MHz smh
novel hamlet
hey can someone help me i cant see my games in origin after i download a game
wintry moat
prime jasper
@latent light sad! I'm assuming your kit was on the mobo qvl?
grizzled apex
I’ve always had the worst experience with gigabyte motherboards. That’s why I went with ASrock
steep gust
@latent light that is hard to believe 
20-19-19-45 ain't even jedec
Gigglebyte has the best value z390 boards
Also cooler master has been the OEM for years
grizzled apex
Should I pick up a second hand 1070 triple fan design (gigabyte) from Craigslist
He’s selling it for 200$
grizzled apex
I mean it’s craigslist so no guarantee
violet granite
well - I personally would not do it :3
Just get the GTX 1660 - it's surprisingly price worthy
IF your PC wont bottle neck it
this is accurate
molten coral
minor turret
@latent light ahaha i used that to help cool my gtx 1070
though it never ramps up to full cpu RPMs
pallid silo
It's not letting me post a picture?
idle venture
hey
storm osprey
can only post pictures directly if you are trusted or above @pallid silo
idle venture
i nneedddddddddd less lag spikes
i get50 /60 fps .good for me . yet it gets spikes and goes to 30
yet i have an msi pc
pallid silo
Oh xd okay :p
storm osprey
@idle venture fps and lag (network) are not related
and an "msi pc" doesnt tell us anything
storm osprey
playable is only playable for SP iirc
pallid silo
Fuk... I pressed cancel download so i could relocate the game and when i did that it deleted all the BF5 files... gotta wait another 4 hours to download it now
Not even in recycle bin
prime jasper
ouch...it was probably duplicate/backup temp files then that it deletes when the update finished. but then again firestorm will add some gigs...
I mean your system specs would be a good starting point to see how close they are to whats actually needed to run the game
storm osprey
?
winged tapir
oof did some here named NTY Cracky was in a convo?
prime jasper
lol yes
storm osprey
they posted their specs, it got deleted
prime jasper
lmao
storm osprey
@idle venture WB
winged tapir
idle venture
im bek
storm osprey
so, if you can just focus on giving us the specs like gpu, cpu, ram that would help from you getting muted again xD
idle venture
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 25.21.14.1935
DirectX Driver Version: 25.21.14.1935
Driver Date: 3 1 2019
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x1c82
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 20.91" x 11.73" (23.94" diag)
53.1cm x 29.8cm (60.8cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
Primary VRAM: 4095 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x
Sound card:
Audio device: Headset Earphone (HyperX 7.1 Au
Memory:
RAM: 8139 Mb
Computer Information:
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Model: B150 Gaming Nightblade MI2C(MS-B090)
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected
Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x9e
CPU Stepping: 0x9
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3000 Mhz
4 logical processors
4 physical processors
HyperThreading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported
thats all folks
storm osprey
to be frank, youre whole system is pretty budget
especially for bfv
cpu is 4c4t which is not advised for bfv, it works well for most games though, a 1050ti though is basically the lowest gpu that people would recommend, but everyone would suggest getting a 1060 6gb, and 8gb is like minimal
supple bane
im starting to contemplate if i should get a 1660ti or not...
storm osprey
what do you have now?
idle venture
so im a bit screwed? 
supple bane
1060 3gb
storm osprey
@idle venture pretty much..
idle venture
fak
junior ploverBOT
:information_source: Battlefield V: System Requirements
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png
storm osprey
actually, you barely meet them
supple bane
nyphon, would you recommend the upgrade then ?
or should i get a better cpu, mine is the i5 7400
storm osprey
put everything low/off, toggle dx 11 and 12, and toggle cpu limit
@supple bane what monitor you playing and what settings do you want?
supple bane
well its a 75htz and only 1080p, i would like to be playing on 1080p and on high/epic settings
and at least over 60fps on those settings
storm osprey
10603gb is getting you around 60 fps atm?
supple bane
depends on the game....
but yes
even on bf with medium settings 1080p i get 80 fps
all other games i run on epic and get around 80-90
storm osprey
i mean, youre pretty close to your target with what you got
supple bane
true
storm osprey
you CAN upgrade, but youre really not taking any big leaps
and is that worth the cost?
supple bane
maybe a new cpu then, as it would be cheaper for the one i was looking at and it would help in not only the games but with the workstation side
because on bf my cpu sits at 100% and my gpu around 80%
i was looking at the i5 9600k
storm osprey
yea afaik a 1060 3gb can do high settings on bfv and get 60 fps on devastation
9600k would require a new MB as well
supple bane
i keep looking for a support list on my mobo and i cant fucking find it, i have seen it before and it just seems they have removed it form the website
storm osprey
youre mb, afaik, will only support 7th gen intel cpus
supple bane
oh ok, so ik it supports i5, i7s
storm osprey
intel generally keeps their cpu support to 1 mb
youre mb supports pentium, i3, i5, i7 cpus
they just have to be 7th gen
supple bane
well there isnt any point me getting an i5 7500, and thats the only other decent 7th gen i5 from the top of my head
storm osprey
supple bane
ye i already have seen that
supple bane
i will look at the prices and if it isnt worth it im just going to keep the money and probs wait for my pc to become a potato
storm osprey
youre in a weird spot where it seems you want more, but youre at 90% of youre monitors usage and its costly to upgrade anything meaningfully
supple bane
my friend is in an amazing spot, like he brought a cheap pc and got a good gpu for it, now he has the ability to have a ladder effect, like at first he had a good gpu and a bad cpu, now he recently get the i5 8400, meaning the gpu was bad and the cpu was good, now he knows what to upgrade,
minor turret
Prebuilds often compete/do better on component prices
but holy shit their builds suck
supple bane
also ik the 1050ti isnt good but in his context it is
minor turret
they almost always have a fatal flaw that you need to fix
storm osprey
they have good specs on paper and then you open it up and see a micro atx mb that is basement quality, shit ram and shit psu
you build yourself youll get quality components for roughly the same price
supple bane
^
minor turret
No, thats really not the case anymore
supple bane
As I have said when I got this pc I just did not have the knowledge necessary for even getting a good pre-build, nvm building one my self
minor turret
often prebuild is cheaper due to rebates they get + price gouging if theres any shortage of parts
but they always fuck up either case design, psu or motherboard
even if everything else is top notch
or they do single channel shit which i autoignore
storm osprey
thats literally what i just said..
minor turret
"you build yourself youll get quality components for roughly the same price"
often not the case any more
storm osprey
has to have changed in less than a yea
minor turret
because they mass produce prebuilds cheaply
the benefit of building yourself is better now than before so they are about even
storm osprey
because i know i checked not too long ago and it was what i said
storm osprey
in that one rare scenario
storm osprey
outside a very specific scenario, what i said is true
minor turret
I remember cases where it was cheaper to buy prebuild and rip out mobo+cpu combo and put in a 2600
than build yourself
storm osprey
cheaper isnt the bottom line though
any time i ever checked they had low quality components
and i could build the same specs with better quality components for roughly the same price
ram with actual heat spreaders
an atx mb in a mid tower case vs a micro
minor turret
Lol, heat spreaders on most popular "gaming" brands
dissipate like no heat
if i didnt lose warranty id rip them off and have airflow cool it
maybe put some thermal pad+mini copper heatsinks if aiming for 1.5v oc
storm osprey
i dont really mark it of importance, more of a sign of the cost of the ram
minor turret
id put it on par with LEDs
in value
aesthetics only with some dogshit heatspreaders actually trapping heat
supple bane
i mean, if im tbh, i have no idea why someone would buy an after market ram cooler
it just seems like the most useless thing ever
like when i think about controlling temps. ram is the last thing i think of
minor turret
I assume b-die at 1.48-1.5v would get unstable during high loads
i havent tested it myself
a cheap alu heatspreader wouldnt help much tho
supple bane
i have the corsair vengeance, i dont know if that one will help or not, but if im being honest, i dont care if it does anything, because how i see it as i have a metal case protecting my ram from damage
minor turret
@storm osprey https://www.elkjop.no/product/gaming/gaming-pc-stasjonar/18947/edge-e-sport-stasjonar-gaming-pc-2060-amd-sort heres an example of a prebuild where local component prices are like 11k out of 12k. Fatal flaw being shitty default cpu cooler on r5-2600
but for the average consumer its not a bad deal at all
big benefit being that RMA allows you to RMA entire case and demand a replacement if rma is slow
storm osprey
idk about your region, but my region ive never seen any prebuilt worth it
minor turret
theres also a big pressure to providing best value for 10k NOK so if you get a package for that its often a lossleader
but thats something specific for norway
prime jasper
yeah in the states its a totally different story
minor turret
electronics in norway are some of the cheapest in the world when you consider what you get with it
even if you can skip 25% vat by buying it in a foreign country it often isnt worth it if its an expensive purchase
latent light
@steep gust
managed to get the timings down some
I tried going lower but it just puts them back to the previous numbers
grizzled apex
does your motherboard have 2 dual channel ran slots
or does the ram be placed in a single dimm
supple bane
well this is interesting, my pc has decided that the " key is switched with the @ key 
grizzled apex
wish i could overclock my ram but with ddr3 theres only so much
supple bane
i have no idea what caused it to do that
supple bane
you know how the apple keyboard is set out? with the @ key being on the "2" key
well it has taken that lay out
grizzled apex
thats how all qwerty keyboards are laid out xD
supple bane
well not here they eint XD
in the uk the @ key is 2 from the left of the enter key
and i dont know how i heckin change this back around, like in the settings it is saying that i am using english (united kingdom)
grizzled apex
ah,
latent light
I got 4 ram slots
grizzled apex
2 ram sticks? or just one?
latent light
2
latent light
not overclocked, it's actually underclocked
grizzled apex
lol
latent light
it's at 2800 mhz, stock speed is 3000
grizzled apex
gigabyte motherboards really do suck
my first one i got from newegg had bend cpu pins
the second one was missing the retention bracket and when i got the replacement part the motherboards bios decided to fail
so thats why i never buy refurbished motherboards again
latent light
back to back defective boards
grizzled apex
refurbished cpus are ok, gpus are fine from my understanding but never get a refurbished hard drive too
the micro center where i live near sold a 1 terabyte hard drive for 40$ and i put window on it because i was setting up a game server (it was mostly a test bench before but the lack of antivirus software made it impossible to run) and it took a good 2 months before the hard drive failed
prime jasper
Does anyone know if BreachCompilation is included in Collection #1 - #5? I can't find anything about it
Because currently I own both datasets but if BreachCompilation is already included in #1 - #5 then I will delete it
And yes, owning is legal as long as you use it for private use and you use it for educational use
grizzled apex
i have no idea what that is
prime jasper
Simply said: 1TB (30 billion lines) of databreaches
prime jasper
But it's not related to this game :P. This is #technology so I thought I could talk about nerdy stuff
inb4 EA leaked their database
old otter
Sorry to annoy you guys, but my battlefield i crashing on start up with the recent update.
Any idea on how I could possibly fix it?
prime jasper
Which graphics card and which driver version?
grizzled apex
(750 ti)
old otter
AMD RX 480, 19.2.1
prime jasper
look at the pinned messages about the shader cache
Hmm
There's a new version iirc
Came out yesterday or the day before yesterday
old otter
Ill update the drivers, if it doesnt fix anything ill try reinstalling them, if it still doesnt work ill try the shader cache
prime jasper
👌
grizzled apex
oh yeah, is it a problem if i cant find my shader cache in my %appdata%
prime jasper
Then I assume there's no shader cache in your appdata yet. Maybe you have it turned off by default?
grizzled apex
that wouldnt make any sense though, where are the files being stored then?
supple bane
eyyyy, i fixed the lay out issue, it was super weird, i had to remove the lay out, add it back, then pull the old switch it off and on
jaunty sonnet
how would BFV run on a i7-4790?
grizzled apex
I have the same processor. It depends, what’s the gpu
jaunty sonnet
GTX 1050
jaunty sonnet
yeah i know
grizzled apex
Just save and get a 1660
supple bane
the minimum specs i think is the 1050
grizzled apex
The black edition I heard is good
jaunty sonnet
i am doing looking at 1080
grizzled apex
I mean for 220$ you can’t go wrong
supple bane
i wouldnt.... its way too over priced
jaunty sonnet
on low on all graphics like
grizzled apex
1070 performance for 2gb less Vram
jaunty sonnet
£30 more for a 1080
storm osprey
for 30 bucks i would get a 1080 easily
jaunty sonnet
no... £220 for 1060 and £250 for 1080
storm osprey
get 1080
jaunty sonnet
i am doing
supple bane
250 for a 1080??
jaunty sonnet
yeah
supple bane
where are you finding this from ?
this seems more like a usual price
or am i the retard in this convo ?
i have never in my life seen a 1080 so cheap
storm osprey
i assume its used
supple bane
maybe actually
jaunty sonnet
someone selling one second hand sorry mate
supple bane
oh right
storm osprey
and 30 bucks to go from 1060 to 1080 thats a no brainer
supple bane
i guess
storm osprey
considering a 1060 to 1080 msrp is like double the price
jaunty sonnet
anyway thanks
supple bane
tbh, a 1080 new, i dont think it is worth the money
the 2060 is almost as good and on average is around £100 cheaper
i mean, i would rather sacrifice like 20 frames for £100 in my pocket
storm osprey
new sure, but in the scenario of him saying 220 for 1060 or 250 for 1080, id easily go with 1080
supple bane
yes
me too
i still feel like i would want a pc upgrade.... but i just would not know what to do... im kinda cutting back to the convo me and you had earlier nyphon 
because as we saw a cpu upgrade is out of the picture, but then the only option i have is the 1660ti on the gpu side of things
minor turret
@latent light no crash, it just goes back to previous numbers? Possibly gear down mode that doesnt allow odd numbers
in which case it would be weird to have timings at 19
steep gust
a 2060 is not close to a 1080
supple bane
@storm osprey would you say it is a good choice to get a 2060 in my position ?
steep gust
and yeah you can't buy a new 1080
storm osprey
@supple bane were you the one with 1060 3gb and wanting ultra for gaming but have a 7400 as well?
supple bane
yeah
steep gust
4c 4t o o f
storm osprey
hes got a 75hz monitor, and on med settings gets around 80 fps with his current build
he wants 80 fps for ultra settings
so hes close to what he wants, which is why i suggest not upgrading
steep gust
More and more games are using more and more cores
4c 4t will start to struggle in the coming years
storm osprey
theres nothing as a worth upgrade that is worth the cost
supple bane
i guess
prime jasper
good news is the new ryzens are right around the corner meaning mobo/cpu price drops for current gens
storm osprey
ill just say i wouldnt do it
supple bane
i need some more money smart people in my life
supple bane
more than i am
storm osprey
i just usually do some relative math to see if im being stupid
elfin scroll
minor turret
tbh i think the best way is to buy top end card every gen (assuming prices dont rise every gen) and sell old one used
shouldnt be too bad
supple bane
see, i see some good reviews and a not ridiculous price and im like mine mine mine mine
steep gust
buying flagship is never generally worth it
minor turret
resell value holds nicely
steep gust
I'm guessing the same will happen to a RTX Titan
Titan Xp cost the same as a 2080ti
and is like $600-700 now
minor turret
rtx titan is pretty much the same as 2080 ti unless you are prosumer
storm osprey
xx80 ti's are usually decent to resell
steep gust
The 1080ti held its value because it wasn't replaced in the product stack
Pay more for slightly more performance? Hell no NVidia
minor turret
980 ti allowed you to recoup some decent amount of dosh too
quasi sparrow
Titan RTX is before than 2080 Ti
steep gust
and like
used 1080s held their value after the initial crashing
They did get really cheap, but so did 1080ti
quasi sparrow
more comparable to Quadro RTX 6000
steep gust
uh
not really
Quadros aren't even available to consumers
and they don't hold value due to companies buying tens to hundreds of them in cycles
quasi sparrow
you can buy a Quadro as a consumer
from a bunch of different sites
Titan RTX's specs are more in line with Quadro 6K than 2080 Ti
steep gust
hell no
quadro performance is generally not great
and you can buy a Quadro as a consumer from a reseller, try from NVidia
Like the GV100 (top of the product stack still I think) redirects you to companies selling in bulk
steep gust
but the actual performance is ass
3840 cuda cores and only 12TFLOPs of FP32
vs the rtx titan at 4608 with 130TFLOPs of FP32
and like 40% more memory bandwidth
limpid glade
Who else is afraid that this Firestorm mode will turn your PC into a firestorm?
storm osprey
i expect it to run a few fps less than the base game
@prime jasper i dont think so, but if youre having problems i wouldnt mess with it while its downloading
limpid glade
I already only get 50 fps in base game ugh
jaunty sonnet
have u repaired the files?
prime jasper
twice
jaunty sonnet
whats your problem?
storm osprey
yes, I also did everything the 2 tech guys told me to
nothing worked
I cleared cache, repaired it twice, reinstalled Origin twice```That's odd.
limpid glade
Did you get the game with Origin Access?
prime jasper
uhm I got it 2 days ago on the website with the memberships and "just the game"
jaunty sonnet
have you contacted origin?
limpid glade
What does it say?
jaunty sonnet
what did they say?
limpid glade
DM?
prime jasper
"Too many computers have accessed this account's version of DisplayName field missing from registry. recently. Please try again later."
This is exactly the way it says there
prime jasper
wasn't it just EA trying to fix?
jaunty sonnet
worked for me
limpid glade
My cousin's EA account got hacked, they played the game with hacks on and then got my cousin banned.
prime jasper
cuz I got the error after talking to EA
limpid glade
Probably then. :/
jaunty sonnet
try uninstall it worked for me 😃 however doesnt work for everyone 😐
limpid glade
R.I.P
prime jasper
But eh..
HOLY
ok
so
it was indeed EA
I just reopened Origin and the game works.
I want to poof myself with an STG44
storm osprey
dont poof yourself, you have so much to live for
prime jasper
if you managed to find an STG44 you wouldnt want to poof yourself after how much you could sell it for
kekeke
tru
austere kettle
Just installed my new upgrade replacing my old SanDisk SSD, these read/write speeds are insane.
austere kettle
I honestly never expected that. Happy my Z170 MOBO supports it.
latent light
Threadripper 1900X might as well be a Ryzen 7 with quad-channel memory
they didn't make a 2900X because they knew 8-core threadripper was a bad option
grizzled apex
Since when is the update 24.7gb?
storm osprey
for firestorm
grizzled apex
Yeah but firestorm isn’t even out yet
storm osprey
the download for it is
storm osprey
but you can, in a couple of days
molten bramble
March 25 ftw
prime jasper
I can see why they dint make a 2900x, I mean a threadripper with local mode on pretty much a 1800x or 2700x on steroids
Same cooling and treatment to my 1800x overclocked like ass. Even with c7 and very good ram... 1920x damn near pulling 30% faster
Core vs core
Lower lantency, etc etc. TR is just more superior than normal ryzen
In the right hands
steep gust
yeah your gpu is gonna hold you back
grizzled apex
im genuninely concerned my graphics card might be dying
ive got it in 2017
2 years ago
fallow skiff
Call a tech doctor
fallow skiff
but he might be dying
latent light
yeah I've never had a device deteriorate until death
prime jasper
My 7970 was dying a very painful death
Ever since cross firing with a 7990, it never wanted 2 be alive after that
Artifacts and slower scores
grizzled apex
When I started up my monitor once, it showed a few discolored lines then I turned the monitor off and on and it went away
Is that bad?
latent light
have you overclocked the refresh rate on your monitor any?
Intel's new iGPU will beat the 2080 Ti
grizzled apex
Nope, I just leave everything factory
steep gust
meh should be fine
grizzled apex
pc blows up when loading into bfV
prime jasper
I overclocked my monitor to 151hz from 144hz
Atm im the only person doing 4k 151hz
steep gust
atm he is the only person somehow starving display port of even more bandwidth
prime jasper
Im on fiber optic 
steep gust
Now turn on HDR
latent light
what games do you play that your hardware can push 151hz at 4K
grizzled apex
^^^
latent light
the hall of fame 2080 ti?
grizzled apex
It’s not an rtx titan though
steep gust
yeah RTX Titan has voltage limits
grizzled apex
Damn