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latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:27 PM

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they are all compatible

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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yes i know but a lot say some might be more or less prone to cause errors, others say thats bs ofc but thats how it is with every single detail in this matter

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i cant trust everyone

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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my old Athlon CPU from 2009 will work with a RTX 2080

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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but again thats not the main reason

storm osprey Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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neither are bad, one does better for games out of the box, but wont last as long

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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it will bottleneck it, but it will still work

storm osprey Mar 8, 2019, 10:29 PM

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for 60fps gaming, i dont think one will really show its age worse after a while

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as grim said, hopefully theres not another big cpu core bump any time soon

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i personally dont think its gonna happen for a while, but who knows

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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4 cores were enough for stable frametimes in 2015

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now you need at least 6

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if you want consistency

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:32 PM

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the next Battlefield will most likely use more CPU than BF1 and BFV imho tbh ngl js

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:32 PM

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and a multi-threaded 6 core CPU such as the i7-8700 or Ryzen 5 2600 (or the future Ryzen 3 3300 lol) will last significantly longer than a 6 core without multi-threading

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Battlefield CPU demand (and GPU and more in general) have been increasing a lot every two launches

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since bad company

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:32 PM

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RAM too

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dual channel is a must for BFV

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Bad Company 1 and 2 were almost the same (1 was console exclusive tho so we cant compare a lot)

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Bf3 was a high jump, but Bf4 was about the same

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then BF1 with another big jump, but BFv is about the same

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so the next one will probably do a big jump agaoin

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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BFV is more demanding than BF1

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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yes but parts are getting cheaper

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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BF1 will run fine on a Pentium G4560, but BFV will stutter like crazy

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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yes, and bf4 is also more demanding than bf3, but not as much as comparing bf3 to bc2, or bf1 to bf4

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if you know what i mean

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the next bf will probably be a nightmare to run

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:34 PM

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so it doesnt really change much, more powerful parts are becoming much cheaper, so in terms of the price you would have to spend to make a rig to run bf, it shouldnt change

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:34 PM

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BFV even has occasional frametime spikes on 4-core/8-thread i7s

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:35 PM

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and another thing, it really depends on what your preferences are, like some people dc about have mid settings 60 fps,

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:36 PM

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60fps is more than enough for me. OFC i would fucking love 144 but all of this is ridiculously expensive in this country so thats not an option

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unless i was literally rich

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:36 PM

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ye, as long as it is above 60 fps idc, and thats only in a shooter game, like if im playing ark survival im happy with 30 fps

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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min wage = 290usd
literally any pc part = at least double the price than where you live

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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290 in what time period ?

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week?

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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month

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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month

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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oof

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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damn

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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like i just endebted myself heavily by buying these parts

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a lot more than youd do by buying a nasa pc

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(not literally nasa its a joke)

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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I made $120 a day back when I worked construction

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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i mean if you get a job in mechanics here is £600 a week

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which is roughly £15 pound an hour,

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I live in texas so $580 a week was enough for me to live on my own and rent a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom house

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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theres no way i could get a house like that for that money here XD, living in one of the main transport hubs for london really makes the houses expensive.

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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higher population means higher cost of living

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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business owners buy houses here then get the train to london

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

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real estate is the biggest business in the world I swear

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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anyway now i still have my old r9 380 and i havent bought a better one yet because the prices just hurt

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is a 1080 worth getting

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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not imo

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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if i want something big but not the biggest

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what i should go for

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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RTX 2060

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maybe a 1660 Ti

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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nvidia only btw js

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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well if you mean it like that, although Nvidia make the 1660ti, they dont have there own version, its only 3rd party stuff, like asus and msi

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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RX 580 is good value right now but would offer about 60% higher performance at a little lower power consumption

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compared to r9 380

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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i dont mind third party as long as nvidia is where the original comes from

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iykwim

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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RX 580 is probably the best bang for your buck card on the market rn

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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$180 right now

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USD

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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well its probs like 500 for him XD

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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idk about argentina prices

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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my two last gpus were amd and the first one didnt last 2 years and this one has some weird problems i really dont want to know anything about amd for a long time

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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fair

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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the rx 580 is 292 usd here

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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i would either go with the 1660ti or the 2060 then

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:47 PM

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there's about a >5% chance of a graphics card being defective

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:47 PM

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imo thats still kinda high

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:47 PM

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^

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:47 PM

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like lets say you get a titan v and you pay silly money for a card, having a 5% chance of it being a bad one is really scary

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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my old GTX 470 died and took the motherboard with it

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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the way i see amd is, they are usually cheaper, a budget version, but also like comparing the crappy chinese replica to the original, and id rather buy the "original"

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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was big oof

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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i watched a llt vid last night where he brought a 1060 with 5gb of vram

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Chag

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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nah AMD is the clear choice for anything below 2070 power levels

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in the US at least

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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what's the Nvidia equivalent for the RX 580 btw?

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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none really atm

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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at least close? or between which?

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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but it used to be 1060

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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AMD has higher quality power phases/VRMs on their PCBs when comparing to an Nvidia card of the same value range

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Most-Reliable-PC-Hardware-of-2018-1322/ failure rate in 2018 was ~1.11% during pretesting, with 0.5% of that being failure in a live system

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for GPUs

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For reference, GeForce was 1.24% and .62% for overall and field failure rates respectively, while Quadro was 1.16% and .39%.

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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wait livestreaming increases the chances for it to die?

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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does that include things like artifacts and damaged fans?

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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well it more just kills it, because of how intensive it can be

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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its almost certainly annual failure rate

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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thats why you used to have pc's marked as streamer pc

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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it will increase over several years

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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is the RX 580 better than the 1060ti?

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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historically AMD has had higher failure rates than nvidia, i have no idea about their newest gen

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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well if that existed then i guess so

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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RX 580 = GTX 1060

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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but R5/R7 had something ridiculous around 15% failure rate

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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oh

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Vega 56 = GTX 1660 Ti

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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i thought the 580 was better than that

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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because the 1060ti is literally the same price as the RX 580 here

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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RX 580 is better than the 1060 on BFV by about 15%

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Only if you run vega56 at stock

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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i dont know much about amd stuff

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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1660 Ti is a solid value though

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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why do you guys not recommend getting a high end gpu?

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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especially if you have an SFF PC

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Avoid Gigabyte and Asus when going AMD

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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yeah ASUS AMD cards kinda suck

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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And 1660ti was also OCd whereas vega56 was at stock

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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MSI and XFX are solid

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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because you dont need them for normal gaming

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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when looking at gamersnexus chart

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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for AMD, I only choose Sapphire, highest quality AIB I know

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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because you dont need them for normal gaming```
But wont they last longer

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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anything above 2070 isnt necessary

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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I mean high end is worthwhile depending what you want out of gaming

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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+175 core OC, lel GL average consumer getting that from 1660ti

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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if you have higher res monitors, they're necessary for pretty settings

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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how is the 1660ti compared to the 2060?

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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is just slightly worse

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but in some cases the same or better

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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not worth it in europe, might be different in NA

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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idc about graphics, so a 2070 is fine at my res

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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@fallen harbor RX 580 stomps the GTX 1060 in BFV

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wanna see a comparison

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5H2Z72lJs&

YouTube

DudeRandom84

Battlefield 5 GTX 1060 Vs AMD RX 580 Frame Rate Comparison

Thanks for watching, not sure whats up with the graph on the 1060 as it doesn't happen in DX12 mode or with other GPU's I have tested. Out of the box perform...

▶ Play video

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but the Frostbite engine works well with AMD cards

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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@latent light given that vega56 is priced same as 1660 ti, is there any point in getting 1660 when vega56 can be a beast if you tweak it?

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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in some parts, it's ahead by 20 fps

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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if heat and power usage is not a concern

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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man the more i research about gpus the less convinced i am on what to buy

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Vega 56 is my favorite card for tweaking

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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i just have no idea what the best option is

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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but 1660 Ti is more practical

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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also ando you asked if the high end cards would last longer.. well you could say that in some cases they have a shorter life span, because of more power, therefore more heat

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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depends how much you want to spend, what your fps/graphics expectations are, and what res you play at

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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1660 ti just seems silly, either get a cheap 1070(ti) used or a vega56 new

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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also ando you asked if the high end cards would last longer.. well you could say that in some cases they have a shorter life span, because of more power, therefore more heat

makes sense

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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avoid buying vega used

vernal spire Mar 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Anyone else had this problem about discord when it doesnt give a damn if you have startup option off and doesnt appear in msconfig or other programs?

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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buying a top end card for longevity is kinda stupid imo

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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unless you know it was an undervolted vega card used for mining

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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you're better off buying a 2070 and its successor than a 2080 Ti

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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I only buy used cards if I can meet the person in real life at their/my house and I get to see how it works

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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depends how much you want to spend, what your fps/graphics expectations are, and what res you play at

i dont care much about how much i must spend as long as it compromises the most years running games at 1080 and 60fps

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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ah, well in norway sellers are almost certainly trustworthy so its a good bargain to buy used

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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I only buy used things on FB marketplace or craigslist

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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and dead solid legally mandated RMA process

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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depends on what graphical fidelity you expect at 1080/60fps then

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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i dont think i would buy any pc part used

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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SSDs and CPUs aren't bad used

vernal spire Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Im going to try to disable discord with registry editor now

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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same with fans

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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if you want to play games in 3 years at 1080p 60 fps, you might need a little more power than an RX 580 tbh

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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@supple bane I have had some awesome deals like a gtx 780 (when 9xx gen was out) for like 40% of 970 price new, also it had 1.5 year evga warranty, and like 3.5 years of legal warranty

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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well thats true, i was saying the main parts, cpu, psu, gpu, mobo

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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1660 Ti then

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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to me it sounds like the best options are either 1070ti or 1660ti? im not sure

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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no don't get 1070 ti

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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the 1070ti is very expensive for what it is

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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RTX 2060 is better value than 1070 ti

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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ic

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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the 1070 is still very expensive even tho the 1660 ti always out performs it

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and the 1660ti is cheaper

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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1660 Ti is the best value in that performance tier

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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^

vernal spire Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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OH FUCK

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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I hope 6GB of vram will be relevant in 3+ years

vernal spire Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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discord doesnt appear in registry editor

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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YMMV, best value is vega56 in norway for example

vernal spire Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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how is this possible

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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new

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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i mean, im pretty sure cards new now could still run games in 3 years

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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there are some sites that sell the 2060 at the same price as the 1660ti here 🤔

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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because the optimisation and the engines are going to get better

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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VRAM isn't as huge of a concern as you'd think

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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oh it is

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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like only less than 5% more expensive

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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> because the optimisation and the engines are going to get better
lol

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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the 1060 3gb is trash compared to the 6gb version

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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you ever seen what frostbite code looks like?

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well, there's diminishing returns with increasing VRAM in practical terms

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3GB was too little even on release of the 1060

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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4 or 5 would have been better

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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4GB should be fine for awhile, especially at 1080p

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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there is a chinese version of the 1060 that has 5gb of vram

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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big VRAM is much more important at higher res

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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its a legit nvidia product, it was just sold in china

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it was used in gaming cafes mainly

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because they are still a thing over there

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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4GB will be the new 2GB in 2020

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bet

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FeelsMeowMan

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Kappa

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i believe you

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:05 PM

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google benchmarks of 1660ti vs 2060
none of them get to steady 60fps on metro

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is this normal

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do they suck or is metro terribly optimized

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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what are the graphics settings on that bench?

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yes

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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metro is terribly optimized

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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all ultra

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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also max graphics is a shit meme

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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average fps are 52 and 43

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Metro Exodus is the game that's supposed to push the next wave of high detailed graphics

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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it does look good, i have to give them that

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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you can get visual settings that look very close to max but with way better performance by turning a ton of things down

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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yeah i know but still

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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not to mention a lot of visual settings make games even less fun to play

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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from what i have seen metro isnt a game where you need 60 fps

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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i know but we are talking about new gpus,i didnt expect them to struggle to get 60 just yet

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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idk <60 fps looks pretty gross if you're flicking across the screen fast

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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preferences

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i cant tell the difference in fps if its over like 40

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so it doesnt affect me

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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tearing all over the place

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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how do you live

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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i wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a game at 40 fps and a game at 144

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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i skreech autistically when the rate drops to 59

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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my BFV settings make the game look like shit, but at least i can see things and i get stable 100 fps

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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i reach average 90 on mid settings 1080p

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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im not even kidding whenever i see something fucked i look at the counter and it says like 58

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it annoys me that much

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I get 80 fps average with my RX 580 on BFV with everything on ultra

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medium does like 110ish fps

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I couldn't play BFV at 1080p

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there's so many shitty visual effects, you kinda need higher res to pick people out

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I play all low on everything, except post processing

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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for some reason even tho i get like 50 fps when i play on ultra i get some weird screen freeze thats short but very common, like micro freezing, but i watch my counter and its not fps drops, the counter doesnt even move

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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custom cfg on top of that

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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yeah I want a 4K monitor so I can play war thunder and snipe tanks from over 2 km away

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PogChamp

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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24" 4K 🤤🤤🤤

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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so the tanks that look like 5 pixels will become 20 pixels in 4K

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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or the 5K LG monitors they have at Apple stores 🤤

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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24" 4K is supreme pixel density lol

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27" 4K looks great

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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dude LG makes a 21.5" 4K

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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27" 1440p looks similar to 24" 1080p lol

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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they sell them at Apple stores

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27" 1440 looks way better than 24" 1080

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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not by much

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is ppi measured by square inch?

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:13 PM

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i could get a 24" 4k for £150 over here

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yes its 60 htz

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but still

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for the price

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https://www.debenhamsplus.com/p/1273732/electriq-24-4k-uhd-60hz-freesync-hdr-gaming-monitor?refsource=DEadwords&refsource=Debsadwords&mkwid=sBpeIc0bI_dc&pcrid=300139154088&product=Eiq-244kMHDR&pgrid=59451277825&ptaid=pla-530658135729&gclid=CjwKCAiAwojkBRBbEiwAeRcJZKEF5JakUB9-aitTtFXl7tqk4kWvdhk8MEvZ1Oz6XXBdV5ADTwxHexoC8MYQAvD_BwE

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I'm gonna replace both of my 24" 1080p monitors with a 1440p ultrawide someday

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or 4K ultrawide when they come out

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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27" 1440p is 108 ppi

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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ultra wide isnt my cup of tea

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27" suck ass imo

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way too big

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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24" 1080 is 92 ppi

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I have 3440x1440 35"

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and it's amazing

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for productivity and gaming

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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i couldnt

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too big

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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you can have things side by side just like you can with multiple monitors

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but no bezel in the middle

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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24" is perfect for me

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I want ultrawide curved

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muh immersion

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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how much is the 2070

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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GWqlabsHyperRage

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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ultrawide curved is perf

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the slight wrap around effect is great

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@fallen harbor 500+ usd for dogshit non OC version, 600+ usd for OC version

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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it wraps around your eyeball and makes things look more accurate

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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the response time on that monitor is 9.5 ms, isnt that like really long ?

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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is the 2070 worth getting

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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depends

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I got a OC version of the 2070 for $500 flat

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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they binned dies according to OC and wanted extra 100$ for good ones

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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if i want to get an 2060, should i stop and get a 2070 instead?

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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worth it if you play on higher res for sure

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@quasi sparrow doesnt mean the die is OC bin

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with A marker

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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2070 offers 20% more performance for 50% more cost over the 2060 lol

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$350 vs $500

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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I mean that's how diminishing returns work

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and the 2080 Ti costs 2x as much as the 2070

fallen harbor Mar 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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oic

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thnx

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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2060 will already blow your R9 380 out of the water

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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funnily enough 1080 ti was best bang of buck when available, still is if you find a deal for it used

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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a 1080ti is way too much, even if used imo

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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in the US, you might as well get a 20XX over a 1080 Ti

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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tbh GTX 1060 for $250 in 2016 was the best bang for buck

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then the mining nation attacked

storm osprey Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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avatar reference

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i like it

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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nah, AMD was still better at that price point

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Chag

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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if you could get them

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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RX 580 > GTX 1060

storm osprey Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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rx 580 deals ive seen for 200 bucks with 2 free games is a hell of a deal atm

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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only advantage to the GTX 1060 is Ansel and lower power consumption

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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I buy most of my more expensive hardware in store from micro center for muh deals

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and i guess I avoided buying hardware during the whole mining debacle

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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hope something like that never happens again to the market

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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mining was great

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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it wasnt

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XD

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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ez pumping coins

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it was just free money playing longs

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:21 PM

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inb4 Nvidia or AMD launches a new architecture that benefits mining better than ASICs

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notlikethis

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:21 PM

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crypto isn't dead, can't wait until the next mining debacle

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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tbh ASICs were better than GPUs from the start

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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idk if NVDA or AMD will top ASIC miners

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not enough parallel ability

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:23 PM

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now i have looked into the 4 of the k i really want a 4k monitor XDD

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:23 PM

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4K is kinda cheap in the US now

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you can get a 60 Hz IPS 4K monitor for like $300

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:23 PM

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I'm used to 60hz so I would like a 4K monitor anyway GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:24 PM

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i mean i would say that i would scrap my idea of getting a 1660ti and get a 4k screen, but i would have to get the 1660ti to play the game in 4k any way sad

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I almost bought a 1080p 75hz freesync monitor for $99 a few months ago

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didn't think 75hz would be noticeable

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:24 PM

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i really dont think a 1060 3gb would run 4k XD

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:25 PM

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depends on what you're playing

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:25 PM

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true

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:25 PM

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and what your graphical expectations are

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like AA is unnecessary at higher res

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too bad BFV forces it on you

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:25 PM

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well the only game i would have 4k on bfv

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and i would probs have it mid settings

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or maybe high

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

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BFV at anything above low is painful for me

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I played on a Acer Predator X34 which is ultrawide 1440p, played without AA and it looked pixelated as 1080p

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I play without AA for performance/visibility reasons

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

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my current monitor is only 1080 but has some other cool things, like the 1ms response time and 75 htz

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

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and idt AA even makes BF look better

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:27 PM

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and for it only being £150 it isnt too bad

quasi sparrow Mar 8, 2019, 11:27 PM

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1ms is a bit of a meme, you can't distinguish between 1 and 5ms anyways

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like you're a freak if you have a <120ms reaction time for visuals

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:28 PM

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would you be able to see a 9ms response time ?

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like could you feel it

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:28 PM

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the 1ms monitors are never 1ms in any case

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thats a theoretical grey to grey transition

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and yes, 9ms would be too high for flawless 144hz gaming

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not to speak about 240hz

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:29 PM

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well its not 144... its 60

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and i dont want it flawless, im just an average guy

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as long as it feels instant, idc

minor turret Mar 8, 2019, 11:30 PM

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issue is more blur if you have input lag

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:32 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/report-overall-market-for-pc-memory-has-entered-freefall/?utm_content=buffer161d4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb&fbclid=IwAR0z4BcvJQiA1uO7xRl8KyCiUc2FhOkd__Z1IDZBZwkxdKxFEubRwYcJua8

pcgamer

Report: Overall market for PC memory has 'entered freefall'

Good news for consumers.

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Chag

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all ram prices could drop by 30% in Q3 of this year

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woahthink

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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i just got 16 gb of ram as well mad

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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FeelsMeowMan

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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i should have waited

latent light Mar 8, 2019, 11:34 PM

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wait 3 months to save $50

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thonk

supple bane Mar 8, 2019, 11:34 PM

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yes

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i would do that

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110%

lofty light Mar 9, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I bought 32GB for $200 AUS before the hike in price, and now they're finally dropping it from $400 for another 32

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Maybe soon I'll be able to fill my slots for 64 happy

molten coral Mar 9, 2019, 1:05 AM

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I've bought 32GB like 6 months ago

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Did upgrade from 16

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Needed a new motherboard and was like: Yeah i'm going to fill up all the slots this time with 8GB each.

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I've the gskill trident z, pretty much bought them because it's RGB.

coarse nimbus Mar 9, 2019, 1:11 AM

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inb4 if you buy anything other than the cheapest ram possible for the speed you want you are stupid /s

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 1:15 AM

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did anyone actually manage to get a Vega 64 before they sold out EVERYWHERE

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ugh

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i have 32GB ram as well but lets be honest you really dont utilize even 16GB running BFV or something with photoshop with 3ds max open ffs lol

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its just nice to have

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like having a Porsche or something any living in a city with 40 speed limits. lol... pointless

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 1:33 AM

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I don't think I would agree with that point--I have 16Gb and use it in games or production applications. 3DS, PS, AP, R6S, CS, etc. eats it right up.

fossil dune Mar 9, 2019, 1:35 AM

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is it just me or is the stuttering worse after the last2 updates?

minor turret Mar 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Why does 1440p no AA use shitload more power than 1080p with 8X AA if there is no CPU bottleneck and gpu load hits 99-100%?

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the VRAM load was within ~500mb of each other

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~100MB of each other even

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id argue it was identical

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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3.7 million pixels vs 2.1 million

minor turret Mar 9, 2019, 2:09 AM

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which should show up as increased memory load

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which it didnt in this case

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core load as shown by afterburner was identical

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by that i mean capped at 99%

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 2:10 AM

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did you look at the vram utilization?

minor turret Mar 9, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Yes I have a chart showing it, thats why I said within ~100mb of each other

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Valley bench that never peaked 2000 mb

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 2:12 AM

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benchmarks only? no games?

minor turret Mar 9, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I am establishing stable clocks at max load, hence synthetic benchmarks are good at showing clock drops

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apex/bfv loads my gpu less

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For an example: 1080p ultra, 8x AA = stable at 1.093v 2173 core clock. 1440p Ultra, No AA requires 1.030v 2126 core clock to be stable without clock dips. Peak TDM was 108% and 110% despite huge difference in voltage.

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due to hitting power limit

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Temps: 1080p: 45c, 1440p: 37c

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 2:23 AM

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@fossil dune yea its worse for sure i get menu lags and loading in lags mostly

fossil dune Mar 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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yeah thats mostly consistent for me but i do get the very odd stutter atleast once or twice in game during gun fights which wasn't present before @upbeat crypt

odd goblet Mar 9, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I had to configurate my graphics card for it to run well, and now it runs perfectly

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Couldn't even start up a match of Ravenfield now I can do it no problem and with more bots

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Ravenfield LOL

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literally inspired by BF and Raven Shield (Rainbow Six 3)

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its funny

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reminds me kinda of Battlefield Heroes

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haha

odd goblet Mar 9, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Ravenfield is a fun game though

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Especially with the mods and shit

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There's one mod that adds a fuckton of modern weapons that kinda makes me want a modern battlefield for once even though I only enjoyed one and that was Battlefield 2.

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One of the weapons is that uhh... Grenade Launcher with a Revolver Cylinder thing, I don't know the exact terminology atm. But you can either have like LVG rounds, AP or Buckshot, making it a powerful long ranged shotgun

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:04 AM

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guys can i use just a dumb generic cheap PSU to complete a pc with my remains which include a i7 3770? (no gpu)

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like, not for gaming or anything

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or the fact of it being an i7 3770 requires a decent psu still even if i dont use it for gaming?

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:05 AM

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3770 alone in a system without a GPU, get a 400W

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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guess ill put my old 600w on it then

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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lol

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what psu did you get

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:07 AM

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the new one? it's an XT 600w

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I didn't know XFX made psus

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they are known for being an AMD GPU partner

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:08 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293160422444630016/553691566661697549/image0.jpg

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are you telling me i got the wrong PSU for a 2060 if i ever plan on getting one?

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:08 AM

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https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6092/6092641cv14d.jpg

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any brand psu is compatible with any brand cpu/gpu/motherboard

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what you want is quality though

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which usually comes from Corsair, SeaSonic and some EVGA ones

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:09 AM

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yeah i know but

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idk what quality implies regarding psu

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:10 AM

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the components inside

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:11 AM

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yea i still dk

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less quality means it can die faster?

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I choose Corsair myself, never had one go bad.

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I've burnt out several others.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:12 AM

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XFX basically rebrands SeaSonic psus

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so I guess they are good enough

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@molten bramble I'm helping my friend choose pc parts and he got a Corsair RM750X white full-mod, comes with white cables included

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it's really nice looking

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/537765102904934413/20190123_062730.jpg

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even comes with combs for the cables

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Oh cool. I'm not a fan of white, but that looks legit. I have the RM850x and it's probably one of the best PSUs I've had in a long time.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 3:31 AM

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yeah RM series is good

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 3:58 AM

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does recording often also potentially shorten the lifespan of a gpu?

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like, as much as livestreaming?

lime pollen Mar 9, 2019, 4:00 AM

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@latent light those cables look good eyes_shaking

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Should be just right for some R6S. 😄

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fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 4:01 AM

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god damn

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Download would be better if there wasn't a show streaming in the next room of course. Really digging the new speeds though.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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what did you have before

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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little over 300/300

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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lol

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I didn't know our ONTs were already to go for gigabit, so I'd been waiting for FiOS to give me a heads up.

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Oh, and apparently that ONT I had was the culprit with the disconnects, so that got swapped out last week.

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However, having to re-DL R6S since the system reset, and the new speeds here don't seem to mean shit to UPlay's dankass 86 MB/s connectivity... 🙄

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Guess this means I'll has to reset the keymap to my preferences as well, unless it saved them for me during the reset. We shall see.

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Need to find me an m.2 Samsung 500Gb for a good price and swap that in soon.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 4:16 AM

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your motherboard has a M.2 heatsink

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may not be effective

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idk

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some of them have poor surface area for dissipation

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usually aftermarket ones are the best

molten bramble Mar 9, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Yeah, more concerned about finding the device first though.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 4:45 AM

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https://www.powercolor.com/product?id=1511341849

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@steep gust PowerColor Vega 56 going for $320

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woahthink

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131740&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8325030&SID=

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here's the actual sale

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aaaaaaand it's gone

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FeelsMeowMan

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reviews says it has samsung HBM

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notlikethis

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ok i guess it does

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but I thought only SK Hynix could make HBM

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 5:43 AM

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How do you get lower Temps

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I know its a dumb question

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But my BFV goes all the way to 80-89 degrees when playing

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 5:47 AM

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underclock your GPU

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 6:06 AM

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That...sounds like bad advice

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 6:44 AM

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or increase fan speed

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wait what do you mean your BFV goes to 80-89 degrees

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thonk

lofty light Mar 9, 2019, 6:50 AM

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@latent light that PSU looks sick af, I've got a HX850 with blue cables and it's so much nicer 😃

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:30 AM

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GPU temp

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Doesnt it start underclocking at that point

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:32 AM

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What do you have

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:32 AM

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GTX 1080 from MSI

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Thats weird

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Is it the MSI armor?

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Dont think so

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MSI Armour is the Silver one right?

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:33 AM

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White and black

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:33 AM

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No mine is Black and Red

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Believe its just a Stock GTX 1080 from MSI

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Ah is it the neat looking one

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Has the ribs and shit if thats what youre reffering to

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Yeah

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Nice looking design

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Idk how it could be reaching those temperatures though

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Does case have good airflow?

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I try and keep the fucker as cold as possible

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1x Top blows out, 1x Back blows in, 2x front blow in for the Radiator

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Hav e H100i CPU cooler

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:36 AM

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That's really strange

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It could be the thermal paste on the card itself

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Is there a way of checking if the Case fans are operating at 100% speed

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Case fans usually set themself to a reasonable speed based on temperatures

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Shit

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Did you buy your card new and have you ever taken it apart

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 7:48 AM

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New yeah

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Its 2 years old

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Actually no

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Its bordering on 4 years old

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May need to start saving for 2180 😛

quasi sparrow Mar 9, 2019, 8:49 AM

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take off the shroud, ziptie 2x 120mm fans to your GPU

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:51 AM

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the ugliest thing you could ever have seen but it works like a charm

quasi sparrow Mar 9, 2019, 8:51 AM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-NBnDmayjZA/hqdefault.jpg
i have one of these with 2x 120mm Noctuas

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it's frosty

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:53 AM

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my cooling is the opposite of frosty

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Re-apply thermal paste if it is 4+ years old

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Can the PC shop do that for you?

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Because i sure as hell am not going to do that

jaunty sonnet Mar 9, 2019, 11:00 AM

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it's easy follow yt video @prime jasper

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 11:07 AM

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I guess you can get that as a service from somewhere

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I mean the PC shops do maintenance and that should be a regular maintenance job

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just like dusting the system too, make sure you do that as well

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

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but ye, its only a few screws and the chances of you breaking something are basically non

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

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if its 4years and running

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 11:09 AM

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you are probs more likely to die from a card board box than break something changing the paste

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Oh

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While Im here

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Whats a good way of de-dusting your PC

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All I used todo was buy those Air Cans

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But them shits barely get my PC clean

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Sounds about right. The fucking game would crash when I'm top score entire game with a very nice k/d on top of it and the match is about to end. Right on.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: bfv.exe
Application Version: 1.0.70.10299
Application Timestamp: 5c73e8aa
Fault Module Name: bfv.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.70.10299
Fault Module Timestamp: 5c73e8aa
Exception Code: 80000003
Exception Offset: 0000000008b44139
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 4980
Additional Information 2: 49807ca5056c1d0ad8dee0b3f26001c6
Additional Information 3: 833d
Additional Information 4: 833d8fe06d9beef0ea7e3465d0746b90

What the fuck does this mean.

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 11:31 AM

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if the dust has settled in with any moisture, it sticks quite bad, so you should try to de-dust the machine at least once a year, otherwise, undo the entire system and wipe surfaces with rubbing alcohol where ever there is sticky dust

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 11:31 AM

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machine is mint, no dust at all.

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i take care of it

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its also liquid cooled

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 11:32 AM

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not you, @prime jasper

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 11:32 AM

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oh

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❤

sonic osprey Mar 9, 2019, 11:32 AM

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crash dump is quite meaningless :D google it

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 11:32 AM

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im trying

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cant find any info

mint pendant Mar 9, 2019, 12:16 PM

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Hi, why does Battlefield 4 take so long to load maps on PC? I timed it and it took almost 5 minutes to load a match. I have a good build too.

prime jasper Mar 9, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Battlefield 4?

mint pendant Mar 9, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Yes, Battlefield 4.

jade star Mar 9, 2019, 12:34 PM

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That doesn't sound right. I have a HDD and don't load that much

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Could be some windows erroring

mint pendant Mar 9, 2019, 12:36 PM

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It happened with my old PC and now my new PC. All different parts too.

molten coral Mar 9, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Do you have the game on a HDD?

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I had the same problem when the game was on my HDD 4/5 min loading times.

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Now got it on a SSD and it takes me around 20/30 seconds

brisk patio Mar 9, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Does someone have an idea why bfv switches to windowed mode all the time? I've to switch it back everytime I join a game

odd goblet Mar 9, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I googled possible fixes for my graphics card just crashing... I keep getting "lol yeah fuck AMD" as results

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"I found a impractical fix. I bought a GTX 1050 and will sell the RX 550, I try with all drivers (17.4.4 to 17.12.2 and AORUS GIGABYTE disk), I'll never buy AMD cards again."

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and a large forum post with many replies going "I am going to never buy an AMD card again."

odd goblet Mar 9, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Thankfully, I got it all to work, no crashing or anything.

latent light Mar 9, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Pretty sad people blame a company after receiving a faulty product

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They never blame the AIB partner that puts the graphics card together and tests it

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It's never AMD and Nvidia's fault that a GPU comes defective

brisk patio Mar 9, 2019, 4:27 PM

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A little fire is able to burn down giant fields of crops. I think after the trailer much features were missing at launch. And many bugfixes after launch feels like being a beta tester. So its easier to blame the same company if something went wrong. Never the less I love the gameplay of bfv. It feels very smooth to play.

upbeat crypt Mar 9, 2019, 8:18 PM

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@odd goblet what amd card did you have...

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I bought a evga geforce 2070 and had nothing but issues out of the box and went back to amd

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Guys I installed my SSD and two HDDs and I have a question

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my plan is to use one HDD for storing the games and the other to store everything else, and the SSD to run the OS and some heavy games possibly

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but my question is, where should I install the clients? such as Steam, Origin, Battle.net, etc

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:49 PM

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right...

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 8:49 PM

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in the SSD? or in the HDD where I store the games?

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Hdd

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storing steam on an ssd is kinda useless

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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alright

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thnx

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Because all it will do is load up faster if you put it on the ssd so you may as well keep that space for ya games

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np

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I can't seem to be able to install Origin anywhere outside the SSD though

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do you know anything about that?

supple bane Mar 9, 2019, 8:53 PM

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The only thing I can think is your hdd is full but I highly doubt that XD

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Because I have origin on hdd

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Try install it on your hdd then move the file over to your hdd

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I think that should work

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dont quote me on that tho because I don’t know how the program would react, but it should work just fine

fallen harbor Mar 9, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i tried that but i cant move some files

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and i cant launch origin in the hdd without those files

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some web origin stuff

upbeat crypt Mar 10, 2019, 4:20 AM

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I love how only BFV locks up and causes BSOD when no other games do. Like wtf? Ran MemTest86 for 3 hours found no errors. Its definetly a problem with the game. More so since the last patch. Suddenly I get stutter lag etc in the UI at end of round screen like when its calculating the xp score for example. Never used to...

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 4:22 AM

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have you had any hardware changes

upbeat crypt Mar 10, 2019, 4:45 AM

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No

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Its only since the latest BFV update

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No windows changes no driver changes or hardware changes. Computer is also clean dust free and liquid cooled cpu as well. I monitor temps with Speccy as well

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Ive talked to a few people in game who noticed stuttering and lag suddenly too

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:(

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At a loss for ideas

prime jasper Mar 10, 2019, 4:47 AM

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have you tested stable in prime95? @upbeat crypt

upbeat crypt Mar 10, 2019, 4:53 AM

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It even does it sometimes seconds after i start the program at the main menu lol

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Prime95, no. I havent ran that.

prime jasper Mar 10, 2019, 4:53 AM

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very useful tool for seeing if you have any issues with stability under heavy loads

upbeat crypt Mar 10, 2019, 4:54 AM

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But it runs BF1 fine on ultra for hours

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Not that different from BFV

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And wildlands and many other games

prime jasper Mar 10, 2019, 4:55 AM

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eh who knows really. bad patch maybe. but I dont have many issues as long as I keep my gfx drivers up to ddate

upbeat crypt Mar 10, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Guesss ill just have to wait for the next patch and hope for the best

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I might even run the game on a clean install of windows and see

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 4:59 PM

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is it ok to have the fan at 45% with 37º on a r9 380 when idle?

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or is 45% too much for idle?

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thing is if i drop it to like 30% it increases to almost 50º

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 5:15 PM

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You decide

lethal copper Mar 10, 2019, 6:20 PM

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guys I could use your input, Is it just me or does newest Nvidia driver kill fps on this game. I use to get 100+ on 1440p on a 2080 ti now im getting 85..

spice sluice Mar 10, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Hey guys I've created a discord server and well I decided that having a role assigning system similar to this server where clicking on a reaction gives you a role would be quite easy and awesome the only problem is I don't know how to do that... So any ideas ?? Or maybe a video explaining how to do it?? It would really help me

violet plank Mar 10, 2019, 6:54 PM

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it's not the nvidia drivers,it's a windows update

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 6:55 PM

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You decide```
i want to know the risks of anything before deciding, ofc i decide, but i am asking to know what the consequences of whatever decision i take are

violet plank Mar 10, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@lethal copper

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@fallen harbor Think of it this way, every recent GPU doesn't even turn the fans on until 55-60C

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I leave my fans at idle were I can't hear them

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 6:59 PM

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okay but

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is it okay for my gpu to be at 50c in idle?

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:00 PM

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It might die in 30 years instead of 45

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:00 PM

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if i leave the fans off it will go to like 65 in idle

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:00 PM

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but the difference in lifespan is negligible

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obviously don't force the fans off, just have your curve set to 0 until like 55C

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:02 PM

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hmm okay

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will the fans affect the lifespan of the gpu itself or are them a separate thing?

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like

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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The fan bearings might go bad given enough time

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but like they are rated for thousands of hours

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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say i set the fans to 100% for some dumb reason till it dies. what dies is the fans or the entire gpu?

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:05 PM

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fans

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and they won't die

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they will just get increasingly more loud

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:09 PM

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if you got a cheaply made graphics card from an AIB partner that you never heard of, the fans would probably wear out running at 100% all the time

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:16 PM

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even my STRIX card would wear out at 100%

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:18 PM

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the fans for my gigabyte RX 580 get ridiculously loud at 80% and up

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at 100%, I can hear them clearly through headphones when playing a game

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GWragMonkaS

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:21 PM

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yeah

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3400rpm 40mm fans are loud

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:26 PM

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100% fan speed is pointless on my RX 580 though because 60% is enough to keep it below 75C at all times

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RX 580s don't get as hot as people claim

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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so i guess its better setting the fans at 40% on idle for the gpu to be at 35c instead of 50c with the fans at 0%?

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I guess but it won't benefit anything tbh

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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isnt it better for the gpu lifespan?

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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not really

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temperatures have to be over 70C for it to affect lifespan

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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The difference in lifespan will be after the card is literally worthless

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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idk maybe its just me but 50c on idle scares me

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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yeah lol

molten coral Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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50c is fine imo

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I don't imagine you'll be using that R9 380 in 2025

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fan stop technology is pretty cool

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the fans on my card turn on at 50C

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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I could hotbox my GPU daily for years and be fine

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plenty of people do

supple bane Mar 10, 2019, 7:34 PM

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my fans are one when ever i have my pc on, but they sit at about 10-20% then once it reaches about 60 they go all the way up to 100% because that normally means im playing games and i would want it all the way up there

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 8:04 PM

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hotbox?

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 8:05 PM

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shitty case with no airflow that causes the GPU to choke itself on its own hot air

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I love that Cinebench R20 literally makes the results in a .txt file that allows me to put whatever bullshit I want

📎 Capture.PNG

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I can't wait for twitter to discover this and a bunch of 'leaks' to show up

molten coral Mar 10, 2019, 10:18 PM

#

Anyone else with android pie on their phone?

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For some reason after upgrading to android pie my battery is draining so much faster

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Samsung galaxy note 8

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Anyone else with this issue? thinkies

latent light Mar 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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@steep gust LOL

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that is funny though

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but yeah sucks ass now people will try to use cinebench as a "leak"

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that picture is dumb as hell too "AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight-Core processor"

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even though says 12C/24T

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LUL

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 10:46 PM

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yeah that was my fault

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I was just copying the one below it

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and i made up some number

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A 9980XE without HT and overclocked mildly does 8500 points or so

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Should have made that the top of the line one

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 10:56 PM

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do you guys know if there are some nice themes for w10?

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like custom themes you can download or smthn

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like for steam but for w10

steep gust Mar 10, 2019, 10:58 PM

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wallpaper engine

fallen harbor Mar 10, 2019, 10:59 PM

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kk thnx

minor turret Mar 11, 2019, 3:19 AM

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thank you for posting this tip, I will now farm my free karma on /r/amd

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 3:55 AM

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you mean r/AyyMD

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HaHAA

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 4:13 AM

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What's better, two 12V rails with less amperage combined or one 12V rail with big amperage

minor turret Mar 11, 2019, 5:17 AM

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PCIe power supply cable question?

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 5:48 AM

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idk some dude in another discord melted a pcie cable lmao

minor turret Mar 11, 2019, 7:02 AM

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On my previous card I used 2x pcie power cables because i had the luxury to do so

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but i guess it should be fine unless your cable is shit

austere crescent Mar 11, 2019, 7:23 AM

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so guys basically my cpu overheated so I Installed a new Intagrated cooling system and basically ive had no HDMI signal... I've cleaned my ram took my battery out and but it back it, switched my graphics card from one spot to another, hard reset everything, tried a different cable and my Intagrated graphics. Also I checked to make sure. E v e r y t h i n g was pluged in right along with watching every fix youtube had to offer and I'm basically done, in going to geek squad. In not kidding try and name a fix and I bet you 10010% ive tried it at least five times

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I'm positive I fried my 1080ti HaHAA

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My cpu was at 89°c btw id anyone wants to know

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Oooo wee I was playing some Metro Exodus and that som bitch GTX 1080 was going all the way to 91 degrees Celsius

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That was some goooooood shit

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CPU was sitting at a cozy 56 degrees

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Ty H100i, very cool

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Cant say the same for my poor old GTX 1080 though

austere crescent Mar 11, 2019, 7:35 AM

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It meant like I shocked it with my hands in the process of installing it

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 7:37 AM

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thats fairly hard to do

austere crescent Mar 11, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Eh not really, there is no other logical explanation for it and its not that hard, if one hand isnt on a separate piece of metal to discharge static than you will probobally get something fried

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 7:41 AM

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I suppose if you touched the wrong place on the card

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if I were you I would go to my local PC shop and ask them for an opinion

austere crescent Mar 11, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Or the board, if any static electricity comes it to contact with it that a bad, and yea I'm not sure if you read the first comment but I'm going to geek squad. Hopefully its okay

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Alright its 12:45am I'm going to bed gn

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 7:49 AM

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3 years ago I had this memory leak, was very frustrating, play any game and after 10 minutes it would crash to windows .. typical me I spent hours and hours trying to fix it myself, all kinds of things .. eventually took it to my local PC shop, 2 hours later was told it was because there was a micro crack in the mobo next to the ram slot, had to replace the mobo. absolutely the last thing I would have guessed

shell roost Mar 11, 2019, 1:58 PM

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@molten coral

A Restart will fix it, otherwise downloda the app Samsung Members and contact them.
I had the S9+ didnt had the issue tho, i've now got the S10+ and no probs, so PIE wont drain your battery faster, it might be just a app that you've installed recently, tried reinstalling your phone?

Greetings

Armando

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if it worked, tag me and let me know, if it didn't try contact samsung.

west siren Mar 11, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Riot

finite torrent Mar 11, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Riot!¡!

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 3:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/seriously-sideeye-confused-gif-8776030

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 3:56 PM

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#technology is no place for a riot

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this is a sacred chat

west siren Mar 11, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Tech has a lot of riots

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 4:01 PM

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this is the where the nerds live, your looking for the chat where people actually have a soul

west siren Mar 11, 2019, 4:07 PM

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*?

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

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HWinfo64 says my SSD has 98% life left

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GWseremePeepoThink

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

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looks like its time to retire it into a nice coaster, no better time for a new one

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:46 PM

#

GWseremePeepoGGERS

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buying a 4TB nvme now

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wesmart

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 6:46 PM

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i keep wanting to get a bigger SSD but prices keep dropping pretty fast so ill just wait

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:47 PM

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ram prices are going to 30% cheaper this summer

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DDR4 anyway

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 6:47 PM

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the damn neverending waiting game lol

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I'm waiting on ryzen 3rd gen, ram prices, and ssd prices

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Just Wait™

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

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me to grim

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my 4790 is showing its age

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and i want to start streaming

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

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are CPUs going to be stuck at the sub 5GHz barrier forever? I know you can overclock many CPUs over 5 GHz but it looks like we aren't going to achieve 6 GHz any time soon for daily use

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

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probably not forever but we are starting to reach the physical limits of Moore's law and the limitations of silicone at that

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:51 PM

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TSMC is already constructing fabs to start 5nm production

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any thing under 3nm isn't even known to be possible or not

prime jasper Mar 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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well sure fabs are one thing, but the yields are a completely different animal

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Tom's Hardware recommended a GTX 1050 3GB over a fucking RX 570 4GB as the best budget GPU

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fyi, RX 570 is 40% faster and even cheaper

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jesus fuck the bias lmao

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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is it updated?

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I don't think they updated it

dusty wagon Mar 11, 2019, 7:33 PM

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is the 1050 ti better than an rx 570

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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the 570 is way better then the 1050 ti

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tbh the 1050 ti is dog shite

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in context it costs wayyy too much for what it is

sonic osprey Mar 11, 2019, 7:50 PM

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1050ti = 770 from 5years ago

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 7:50 PM

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and you can normally find a 570 for slightly cheaper and it will still out perform the 1050 ti

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:10 PM

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^

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Idk why people have been buying 1050 Ti this whole time

#

RX 570 has always been equal/cheaper than it and performing higher

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:11 PM

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@latent light There are some electrical issues with just increasing the clock speeds

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and clock speed =/= performance

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:12 PM

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we will stay at 5 GHz forever?

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Probably

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I mean IPC increases means you will be doing more at 5ghz than 7ghz old gen

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:13 PM

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my friend has an i7-5820K and he wonders if it has quad channel

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Yes

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That was literally a three second google :^)

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:13 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448302086950748171/554756587089297419/image0.jpg

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Its Haswell E, so X99 right?

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Dunno

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:14 PM

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he's got 32GB but it's only showing up 16GB in bios

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:14 PM

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update the BIOS, reset the BIOS, reseat the RAM, try other slots

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etc

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:14 PM

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don't motherboards have priority slots though lol

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📎 63956ef65ef3fdd82c08ba9a30089477.png

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

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yeah but it won't make that much of a difference

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

📎 9931d44a62e9c06d0f12597edcb92894.png

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his BIOS shows 32GB now

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but windows doesn't

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📎 d55eb7adcf77297c000ebf69cd4b9e83.png

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he says he has to disable XMP in order to use quad channel

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LUL

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 8:25 PM

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idk Haswell-E so 🤷

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Maybe have him put the XMP timings it on himself?

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I mean the primary timings are right at the top

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It goes tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS

but tRCD / tRP are linked on Intel so its like tRCDWRP or something like that

quasi sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 8:55 PM

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> owning a mobo with more than 2 RAM slots

latent light Mar 11, 2019, 9:10 PM

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^post was made by mini-ITX gang

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GWcmeisterPeepoEZ

west siren Mar 11, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Riot?

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Oh nvm

quasi sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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ITX 😎😎😎

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I think my next move is Ryzen 4000 and running it with 2x 16GB sticks

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I have mini atx sad it’s literally mini itx just not as cool

#

it has 2 ram slots and yet is bigger

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 9:54 PM

#

you mean micro atx?

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Yes

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It’s late

#

Leave me aloneXD

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 9:55 PM

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i wanted to do a micro build but ended up doing a built in pc to my front room tv stand

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:55 PM

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ooh

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 9:55 PM

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slides out on drawer guides

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I did want to get a desk that has the whole pc stuffs in and then I saw the price sad

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 9:56 PM

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make your own

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I could actually,

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Tbh I don’t think it would be very practical

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 9:57 PM

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o hell no

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but it sure is cool

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Like having to take everything off my desk every time I wanted to do something would suck ass

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I saw someone make a build and they had rgb cpu cooler and rgb ram and that was it And it looked dumb, it just looked so lost in the huge black empty table

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 10:01 PM

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i have no rgb other than a light strip

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i lie, my gpu has simple rgb

supple bane Mar 11, 2019, 10:02 PM

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I have a red fan....

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and that’s it XD

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I also have some ikea lights on my desk that work surprisingly well when put in the right spots

storm osprey Mar 11, 2019, 10:15 PM

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i want to get white leds, because atm i have orange, but the rest of my build is orange, so its washed out

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 10:16 PM

#

I mean I'm going to buy a Maximus XI Apex

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which is an ATX mobo with two slots

quasi sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 11:07 PM

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mATX cases are too big :/

#

except for the Cerberus

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i'd only go ATX to use the Cerberus X

#

such a top tier case

steep gust Mar 11, 2019, 11:51 PM

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with its own issues

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Should I get Thermaltake Core P3, Fractal Design Meshify C, NZXT H500, or Lian-Li PC-011

storm osprey Mar 12, 2019, 12:17 AM

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i always recommend meshify c, and h500

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or phanteks p400

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a lot of people get the meshify c

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

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011 is a custom loop case

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H500 is for the looks

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Meshify C is a great case

molten coral Mar 12, 2019, 12:26 AM

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The Meshify C looks super good, i've the corsair air 540 at the moment and I love it but on the otherside it's pretty big.

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I have a Meshify C

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Plan to switch to a Define S2 / Meshify S2 (if they make a gunmetal)

molten coral Mar 12, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I've been thinking to get the lian li 011 dynamic

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Such a good looking case

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:36 AM

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if you do a custom loop yes

molten coral Mar 12, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Would love to do a custom loop but i'm just too afraid that it will leak

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Not any more risk than an AIO

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if anything its less, since you can check the fittings

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:41 AM

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I want a white meshify C

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:42 AM

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I got one happy

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:42 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352087&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Cases+(Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form)-_-N82E16811352087&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjpjkBRDRARIsAKv-0O1JcnrY-yJOKTH9pgNUnk_X5-JwqRL4-6CgNKAvhwIj0ZvKudq9RKcaAki0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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$80

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not bad

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wish the interior was white too

#

although, not hard to spray paint

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I'm glad its not white on the inside

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

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LUL

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Although I hate the plastic front panel

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

#

white makes it easier to see stuff since white reflects light

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

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hell I might go with a Define S2 just to avoid htat

#

yeah but contrast

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

📎 11-352-097-V19.png

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that's a lot of room

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 12:46 AM

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yeah

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360mm up top

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360 / 280mm up front depending on if I want to remove part of the psu shroud

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:47 AM

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room for a decent size reservoir to the right side of the motherboard

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📎 11-352-098-V17.png

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this is what I want

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KekVid

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Fractal Design is so based

#

I had the R4

#

such a good ATX case

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http://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus_x/
this is the only ATX case i'd ever want though

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 12:52 AM

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that's nice for a case without a window

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 12:55 AM

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it has a windowed option

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you can really spec it out to your choosing

lofty light Mar 12, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Gonna buy the parts for a ryzen mini home server this payday, I'm keen af

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 1:40 AM

#

I've always been looking for an excuse to build a home server

#

but I don't own enough digital media to justify it

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or I just don't have a need for one ig

lofty light Mar 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I have like 2 TB of movies etc for Plex and plan on running game servers off it

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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you live in AU, right?

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I guess I'd hoard digital media if I did too, makes a lot of sense if internet speeds aren't great

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Plex is woke

lofty light Mar 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Ye

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Plus I don't want to pay for all 50 different streaming services

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Happy with just Netflix and Plex

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I just torrent everything i can't get off Netflix and Amazon Prime

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bc student discount for the latter

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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I know the previous define S was simply an inferior R6 - marketed for cooling rather than silence

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but flagship R6 could do all of it if you so desired

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Yeah but it looks better

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I rather like the phanteks p600s https://imgur.com/a/Wl2RH23

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lots of space for cable management, space, and most importantly

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has 2 covers for top and front if you want silence

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with foam

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Those cable management slides oof

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PSU shroud with a hole is an instant no for me

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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near the fan?

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Ye

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Wait no near the physical psu

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

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gives more room to work with bottom fan + it supports 3x 140mm front so kinda needed

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ah the vanity hole

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Whole point of a psu shroud is to not see the psu

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I dont want to see some dumb label with the atx specs

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

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i always saw it as a way to hide cables

#

tbh i would remove psu shroud if i could

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but its permanently attached with..

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forgot the name for it

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

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I like the psu shroud

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PSUs look like ass

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

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BUT IT HINDERS COOLING TO NON AIO GPUS

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Not really

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

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AND PREVENTS A FAN BEING USED FROM BOTTOM

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

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You can buy cases with a perforated shroud

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And fan mounts

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i.e the define S2 supports 2x140mm in the psu shroud

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I wonder when we will get cases with holes for vertical GPUs

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Hopefully not

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

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or even possibly a hole open for fans to stick out

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Vertical GPU looks meh normally

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

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but muh cooling

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if we can have 3x gpu fans pull cooling outside the case

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

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The fans on a GPU are intake so as long as you have decent airflow around your mobo socket it's not getting impacted

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:25 AM

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https://www.komplett.no/img/p/1200/2823bba9-56e2-4f3d-93b3-d91cefa7fc9b.jpg another big plus with p600s is how clean it looks outside

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admittedly less so if you either drop down or remove front cover

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its still almost certainly 2-3 degrees higher than outside the case, especially if you use AIO radiator as intake front

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 2:26 AM

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What you think about builds that are rotated 90 degrees

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Haven't seen any that impress me

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:27 AM

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card rotated downwards and fans pulling air from bottom to top?

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per todays date the case with best airflow is based on that design

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silverstone something

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Cases with more exhaust fans than intake fans tend to collect more dust inside right?

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Yes

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Negative pressure

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Also cases use conviction dont really see any gains

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Hot air rises is very easy beat by fans

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:29 AM

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as of 2019 the best case ever made in terms of airflow is rv02

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https://imgur.com/a/55kQZ9p

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it still beats out every other case on the market

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absolute cancer to work with, ugly, and usb 2.0 something

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and kiss water cooling goodbye

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Also loses to a test bench with case fans laying on the mobo

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thonk

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Or a server rack with a like 6000rpm 80mm fan

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:33 AM

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they make an RV02E with USB 3.0

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but still ugly as shit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/abdoil/uniq1_112l_miniitx_uniquely_aircooled_truely/
this is still one of the most based designs I've ever seen

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imagine not using a full size CPU air cooler on your GPU wesmart

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Uh

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My GPU heatsink is huge

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📎 20190302_131107.jpg

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Compared to a like hyper 212 or generic air cooler

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:37 AM

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guy was getting 50C under load with a 2080 Ti in his prototypes

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:38 AM

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they showcased an updated rv02 thats a bit larger on CES this year

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so hopefully will be launched soon

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:38 AM

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50C under load is easy depending on the 2080ti

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It's just going to be loud as shit

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:38 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/a791qj/custom_air_silent_pc_11l_performance_gaming_pc/
one of his prototypes used a Noctua NH-D15 on the GPU with a 120mm CLC sandwiched in between for 40C on CPU and GPU

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at under 10L volume for the build

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8.5in tall

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Uh

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:39 AM

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but that's with a 1080

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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A D15 on a GPU will bend the shit out of your PCB

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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not in his configuration

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Also it requires a modded mounting bracket

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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all you need is a backplate + gpu anti sacket mount

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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uh

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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look at the link and see how compact it all is

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Do you realize a D15 is pretty heavy

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And you cant use a backplate due to the mounting hardware on a D15

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 2:41 AM

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980g or something

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:42 AM

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And the cost to performance there is ass

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:42 AM

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he's not having the video card bear the weight of the CPU cooler

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Two D15s are not cheap

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:43 AM

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well SFF in general isn't optimal for cost/perf

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but I'd say the results he got, given the hardware and volume achieved, are fairly cost efficient

coarse nimbus Mar 12, 2019, 2:52 AM

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didnt he literally build a custom box for that d15 though?

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 2:53 AM

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yeah, the GPU and its cooler are mounted to the frame so that the card doesn't have to bear the weight of the cooler

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 3:38 AM

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power just went out for 3 seconds

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FeelsMeowMan

upbeat crypt Mar 12, 2019, 3:44 AM

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since the last patch, for some reason... i get like 35 FPS when in the menu, over 200 fps in a loading screen. is this normal or what? lol

lavish dagger Mar 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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What fov does everyone run? I have a 40 4k tv at 74 degrees, switched recently from 4k to 2k. Also thinking of going to 32 2k 144hz. Any suggestions?

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 5:21 PM

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📎 442e1219e18d308db034f31307d3991f.png

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windows 10 forcing an update on me even though I have windows update disabled

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@lavish dagger 2K is 1080p

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2.5K is 1440p

lavish dagger Mar 12, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Whatever 2560x1440 is

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 5:23 PM

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32" 1440p won't have good pixel density, pixels will be highly noticeable unless you are like 4+ feet away from the screen lol

lavish dagger Mar 12, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Im running 1440 on 40" scaled to 4k right now

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Says 1.7ft to 4.5ft viewing distance with 3.2ft rec

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I probably sit almost 3ft away

forest token Mar 12, 2019, 6:52 PM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/253427/microsoft-confirms-latest-windows-10-update-may-decrease-performance-in-certain-gaming-scenarios

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oof

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 6:58 PM

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notlikethis

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I wanna try out linux on my pc

prime jasper Mar 12, 2019, 7:08 PM

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so do it? lol

quasi sparrow Mar 12, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I mean it is free

forest token Mar 12, 2019, 7:17 PM

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https://www.protondb.com/ will help in determining if a steam game is playable on linux

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 7:50 PM

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^

prime jasper Mar 12, 2019, 10:42 PM

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they finally fixed that stupid update that borked gaming on windows

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

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after windows forced an update on me, I'm getting a random audio pop every 30 seconds

steep gust Mar 12, 2019, 10:56 PM

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After I nuked windows updates

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and have't had any issues

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 10:57 PM

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why can't we disable windows updates, when you go to serverices then disable windows update, they still work

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📎 48cac861af7cc6ee2df747df42c4c468.png

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even did this

summer bronze Mar 12, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Why did they have to make another windows, what was wrong with windows 7? BibleThump

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

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should I use Linux Mint or Ubuntu @steep gust

grizzled apex Mar 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Because windows 7 is really not a modern operating system

latent light Mar 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

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my brother said Mint is easier to navigate

grizzled apex Mar 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I kind of prefer windows 7 over 10 though since windows updates consistently are breaking video drivers

lavish dagger Mar 12, 2019, 11:19 PM

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What video drivers broke? I never had that happen

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 11:30 PM

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when you can buy legit keys for 5 euros in europe

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they clearly needed to monetize OS somehow

prime jasper Mar 12, 2019, 11:32 PM

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if you hate dealing with windows updates youll have to use LTSC instead

lavish dagger Mar 12, 2019, 11:32 PM

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@latent light going to try this monitor for $300 https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32GK650F-B-gaming-monitor

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You can block windows updates at the router

minor turret Mar 12, 2019, 11:33 PM

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there was a new LTSC update few months ago