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quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:42 AM

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yeah, I hope manufacturers agree to some kind of standard in the future to mitigate the possibility of this happening

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I've seen people fry their entire builds

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I mean most people don't really understand PSUs, and that the pinout on the PSU itself is not standardized

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The connector for the motherboard is standardized

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But for some reason ATX spec doesn't have anything on PSU pinouts 🤷

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:44 AM

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yeah, PC building as a hobby is kinda set back by a lack of good standards

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Has better standards than a lot of other hobbies

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ATX + JEDEC + PCIE are very useful for most people

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or imagine that your Asus motherboard would only fit in an Asus case, using an Asus GPU, running Asus RAM

Using an Asus PSU or it all dies

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Heh, that's how it was in the '80s into the '90s where some folks were trying to grow their own markets on their own hardware.

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:47 AM

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yeah PC building is decently idiot proof ig

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way easier than building keyboards

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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heh custom water cooling was great before standards

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Random threading, random fitting sizes, random pumps

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G1/4 wasn't a thing

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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never got into custom loops, cost/benefit is awful

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but I love looking at custom loop builds

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they're pretty, but I don't personally care to build one myself

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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eh long term they aren't bad

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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maybe one day idk

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Since once you get the parts once, they work forever

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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especially with modern parts that don't OC as high

coarse nimbus Mar 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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ask pow how water loops are

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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like the old GTX 680 overclock abilities

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or 2700K

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yuge

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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uh that is because hardware is pushed a lot harder out of the box

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I plan to do that on this build at some point, but I want to get the cable management perfected first. Looking for some low-key matte weave that I can enshroud it all in and tie off.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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https://www.techflex.com/general-purpose/flexo-tight-weave did I hear weave

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molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Nice, thanks for that, I'll take a look.

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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yeah, binning is a bit better nowadays at the high end

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I might do a custom loop with something like that

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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That's exactly what I am looking for.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Since sleeved tubing is nice

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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and the perf delta between a top air cooler/CLC and a custom loop isn't incredible

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Yes it is

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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but i love to see a nice custom loop SFF build

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it's a decent performance margin, not worth the money imo

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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If you get a decent amount of radiators you can easily run a GPU nearly ambient

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and GPU Boost means scaling

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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You're going to sleeve the water cooling tubing? With some lighting or?

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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CPUs don't scale at ambient temps, but 🤷

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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and since I'm huge on SFF, custom loops aren't necessarily even much of a performance benefit with some cases

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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idk yet

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haven't planned my custom loop

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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never going back to a big boi case

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I haven't seen a build like that, but I would be intrigued in seeing how it'd look.

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:53 AM

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my builds going smaller from here

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:53 AM

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📎 WIPOct18pt2.jpg

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Also its not very expensive so if I don't like the look, I can just go back to soft tubing

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$1-2 a foot

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Oh and I hate noise, so a custom loop would mean I don't have to hear my GPU fans ever again

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40mm fans can only be so quiet

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I saw a guy that did something really unique--he planned out his looping, and then had glass blown in the path he'd laid out. Had some weird fittings on the end, but it all seemed to work fine. I am not entirely sure why he did it, but the glass tubing was thick. I have another friend that is a plumber and used copper tubing, looked steampunk like.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Glass tubing is functionality like acrylic but a blowtorch instead of a heatgun

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:59 AM

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I don't think I would feel comfortable using copper, seems like a electrocution hazard.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Looks great because its clear

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Copper is a pain in the ass to bend

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 1:59 AM

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https://bit-tech.net/guides/modding/watercooling/water-cooling-with-hardline-tubing-guide-borosilicate-glass/1/

Water-Cooling with Hardline Tubing Guide: Borosilicate Glass | bit...

Alex explains the ins and outs of working with borosilicate glass tubing.

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 1:59 AM

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hardline tubing is so pretty

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/acmndp/custom_loop_dual_rad_ncase_m1_no_reservoir/?st=JSXZI2OS&sh=b06c5949
this guy manages 2x 240mm rads in the same case I have

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dude either has tiny hands or way more patience than me

molten bramble Mar 7, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Jeez

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 2:04 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/a67zvr/i_love_big_heatsinks_and_i_cannot_lie/?st=JSXZMXS8&sh=3eb7b9d2
people usually just go big air cooler in these cases though

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I'm probably going to hold onto my R5 1600 until Zen 2 refresh

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aka 4000 series

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thonk

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 3:17 AM

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yeah I think that's when I'll upgrade from my 6700K

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I could use a bit more multithreaded performance

dusty wagon Mar 7, 2019, 3:18 AM

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the 6700k is perfectly fine

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maybe wait a year to upgrade

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 3:19 AM

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yeah 4000 series for Zen

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but there's some tasks I do where 8 threads don't really cut it

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especially with VMs

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 3:32 AM

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if 3000 series is remarkable I'll probably get it

deft bone Mar 7, 2019, 3:33 AM

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I'm torn between waiting for the 3000 series, or getting a 2700x for 260...

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 3:34 AM

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if 3000 series has improved cache latency then it's worth the wait

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also improvement to DRAM cycle latency

deft bone Mar 7, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Think there will be new boards for the 3k series?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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yes

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probably won't be too different than X470 but X570 will have PCI 4.0

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and maybe better memory support

runic kiln Mar 7, 2019, 4:49 AM

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hi

atomic zenith Mar 7, 2019, 5:19 AM

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true

unkempt mirage Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 AM

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so im looking to get a 600W psu, i know you would need a semi modular or full modular, but i dont know which brand i would choose, could someone help me out?

lofty light Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Corsair and EVGA have been good to me

crude storm Mar 7, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Since almost 15 years Be quiet, my recent evga hardware wasnt as good as i expected it to be

red ingot Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 AM

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My corsair has been going strong for years now

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I'd also recommend just going fully modular- your cable management will thank you

pulsar pilot Mar 7, 2019, 2:00 PM

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@unkempt mirage get modular all the way. Evga and Corsair I trust, so do one of em

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And by that I mean full modular

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And don't cheap out on the power supply

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Get a good one

slate rivet Mar 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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does anyone have any good ebooks for sql?

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please @ me

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Case makers cheap out on weirdest ways, 150 usd bunch of features

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But doesnt include female to female 4pin cable for fan hub

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Connector is there, manual asks you to plug it to mobo

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But no cable HaHAA

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Old corsair psus were good now you have to google each model to know if its gonna live past warranty

wispy wing Mar 7, 2019, 4:55 PM

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which nvidea driver is more preferred for gtx 10 series ?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 4:57 PM

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@abstract shore this isnt where you would post that, try

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unkempt mirage Mar 7, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@pulsar pilot does full modular cost more? I like dumped all my money on my new pc and a few games and i dont even think i have 2 bucks, i still need to get a better monitor cos rn im using a 21.5 inch tv

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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@unkempt mirage theres so many sales that its a base by base basis, honestly the difference between modular and semi modular are meaningless. semi modular has the cables you absolutely need hard wired, fully modular isnt, everything else is the same

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so unless you plan on doing cable swaps, theres no benefit to modular over semi

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for models of PSU i always look at this tier list

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/986897-psu-tier-list-30/

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if i had to say X brand is generally good, i would only put seasonic on that list

unkempt mirage Mar 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Alright thanks

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Im also looking to make videos with my pc so i would want something relatively quiet

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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brands like corsair and evga get their parts from separate manufacturers, and vary quality, so youll really have to start looking at them as a model by model basis

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PSU imo will easily be the quietest moving component in your pc

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GPU/CPU/ case fans will be way louder

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:12 PM

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idk what i should do with my old parts

unkempt mirage Mar 7, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Sell em

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/6ztsgj/is_seasonic_a_good_brand/

unkempt mirage Mar 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Get some money back and use that money as a investment for ur newer tech, but it depends on how ild it is

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@wispy wing I dont see why you wouldnt use the latest one available

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:17 PM

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looking at pc part picker, the psu i would go for is seasonic focus gold 650W https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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who would buy an i7 3770 on a mobo with 8gb ram ddr3 all from 2013?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I guess that depends on price and what you plan to do with it lol

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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better gift it to my grandparents

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i guess

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they have a ridiculously bad pc and it hurts me

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:31 PM

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sure if the price is right. although you can get old business machines around those specs for stupid cheap online

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:32 PM

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gift

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if the price is right

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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who would buy

cursive rune Mar 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yooo felllass look at this shit http://eaassets-a.akamaihd.net/battlelog/tutorial/gamemodes/BFV_SPARTA_Tutorials_FIRESTORM_ENG_WW_v2.webm

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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wait an i7 3770 isnt something an old office pc would have

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its somewhat good tbh

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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oh yes it is

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piles of them where I work

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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oic

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how cheap you mean

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:35 PM

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3770 would be a good budget pc cpu

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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is it possible to find a compatible mobo for it nowadays

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:39 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M92P-Quad-Core-Refurbished/dp/B077N6XW3Y/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=3770+computer&qid=1551980350&s=electronics&sr=1-5

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:39 PM

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if i could find an average size mobo for it that is also ddr4 it would save me a good bunch of money

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:39 PM

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3770 doesnt work with ddr4

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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aw shit

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nvm then

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so im getting a i5 8400 then

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and a b360 mobo

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:41 PM

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best bang for buck atm

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unless you plan on streaming

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:41 PM

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a bit overkill for your grandparents lol

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:41 PM

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also that

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:41 PM

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the 3770 would be for my grandparents

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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oh I see

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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8400 for me

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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8400 for you?

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ok thought so

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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i want to upgrade and idk what to do with the 3770

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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ah, yeah might as well put it to use

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:43 PM

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i am basically getting an entire new pc tbh

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i5 8400, b360, not sure how much ram but not less than 16

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:43 PM

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very few games scale well with more than 16gb of ram, so id just go with 16

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:43 PM

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will keep using my r9 380 till it dies or gets old enough and i buy a 2060 i guess? or whatever will be worth it by then

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:43 PM

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just be aware b360 is terrible for overcloking

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:43 PM

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8400 is a locked cpu

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:44 PM

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ive never overclocked before, am i missing a lot

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:45 PM

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8400 comes with a cooler

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:45 PM

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it does now? interesting

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intel is confusing in that regard

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:45 PM

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afaik its only top of the line CPUs that dont come with a cooler

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:45 PM

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what sort of cooling are we talking

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cooler*

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:46 PM

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stock cooler will work fine, but something like hyper 212 evo which goes for around 20-25 commonly is a good purchase

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:46 PM

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i have an hyper 212 i think

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for my 3770

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:46 PM

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you might have to order a new mounting plate

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not sure about that honestly

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

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whats that : D

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

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the mounting plate for different cpus isnt always the same

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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should i really get an overclockeable cpu if i use it for gaming

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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imo no

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coming from a budget POV which you seem to be doing

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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why did you specify its not overclockeable then

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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didnt know if you planned to

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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oh

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i just dont know

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tbh

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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because killa said the b360 is bad at OC

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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aah

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got it

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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which you dont have a cpu that OC's anyway

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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i guess the 8400 will last enough?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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although if you have a budget in mind theres possible a deal to be found in your price range

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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for intel, generally only cpus with K at the end will OC

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i think the 8400 will last a while

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hell, im using a 4790 (non k) for 1440p gaming and its still doing good

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:50 PM

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i am more than satisfied with 1080

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and 60fps

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so i thought the 8400 would last a good buch of time for me

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:50 PM

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if thats all youre doing, 8400 will definitely deliver

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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and the gpu idk

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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hell, at that point i might even recommend ryzen 2600

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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if my current gpu broke idk what i sjould get

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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rx 580 with the deals ive seen and 1080p 60fps gaming

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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whats your budget ando?

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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from what i understand the best options are 1070 or 2060

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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1070 are overpriced mostly due to low supply

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2060 outperforms it slightly too

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for same price or cheaper

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both are overkill for 1080p 60fps gaming

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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killa all these thingns cost more than twice their original price where i live so telling my budget wont help a lot

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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1070/2060s are for 1080p 144hz or 1440p gaming

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imo

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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what would you recommend? 1060?

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oh you said one

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nvm

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i missed it

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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1060 6gb, rx 580, or 1660 ti depending on prices there

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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ive had a bad experience with every single ati gpu ive had so far so id rather go for an nvidia tbh

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at least this time

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ive never had an updated nvidia gpu

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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1060 6gb, or 1660 ti

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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ive never heard of 1660

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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they are new

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basically a 2060 without RTX features

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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oh nice

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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at around 280$

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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how muchs the 2060 again?

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340?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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350 iirc

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@fallen harbor Ryzen 5 2600 or i5-8400, both perform identical in all games, the 2600 just has more threads and overclocking

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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wouldnt that make the 1660 ti a lot better than 1060 ti tho?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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doesnt the 2600 only perf the same IF you oc?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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2600 is $160 USD, 8400 is $180

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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almost certain at stock 8400 had a lead

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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2600 boosts to 4 GHz by default

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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which is better then for long term

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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2600 easily

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12 threads vs only 6

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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should i buy a water cooling or something dor it

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for*

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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stock cooler does great

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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do amd cpus keep burning

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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no lmfao

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maybe if you're in 2012

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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icic

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wait by stock cooler you mean the tiny one?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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2600 has 65W tdp

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which is the same at the 8400

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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iguess it wouldnt hurt to put a hyper 212

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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the stock cooler on Ryzen is really good

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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all of the benchmarks i just looked at had the 8400 at stock being faster, but the 2600 matching or being better once you OC

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCCad1LY-s4

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@fallen harbor for long term id say the 2600 might be better since it comes with more cores and OC

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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yeah the 8400 sounds just more comfy tbh

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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imo, basically if you put time into the 2600 youll get more out of it

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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isnt oc a little bit unsafe?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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no

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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if you dont do research and know what to do then yea

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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yeah cause ive never ocd before

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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2600 will last longer than the 8400 for future gaming, it has double the amount of threads

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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its simple once you have researched

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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why is it cheaper then

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dumb question i know

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but still

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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because intel has always charged high prices

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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lots of factors

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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because its kinda like apple and samsung, apple charge loads more for basically the same phone

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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performance isnt the only variable

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people trust intel for being consistent

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amd has dropped the ball before

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and amd wasnt competitive for the longest time

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imo, i would go 2600 personally

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but i would put in the time and research to get more out of it

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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does oc’ing need a more intensive cooling system

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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not more than a hyper 212

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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not necessarily

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I got my 1600 to 3.8 GHz with the stock cooler, max temp in 68C in stress test

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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hell, you can get decent OC off stock wraith cooler

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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but you probs should get at least an after market air

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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hyper 212 is consistently top bang for buck cooler

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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does oc’ing threaten the lifespan of the piece

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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max overclock yes

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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not if youre thermals and voltage are in check

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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if you try to get 4.3 GHz it might shorten it's life

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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i mean i have a locked cpu so the stock cooler works great for me, never seen my cpu over 60

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yeah i think i prefer the 8400 guise

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i know i am sounding super lame rn but i dont feel like depending on oc’ing in order to make it more worth it

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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well the Ryzen 5 2600 already boosts to 4 GHz by default you don't need to overclock

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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so the 2600 is cheaper, and with mb is even cheaper more, and youll be within 5-10 fps of the 8400 at stock

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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even without oc, will it last more than the 8400 still?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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yes

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for future gaming since games will start utilizing more cores/threads

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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well that sounds more convincing then

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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and if youre playing on a 60hz monitor.. both of those cpus are easily gonna get 60 fps with a 1060 6gb

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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BFV will keep your 8400 nearly maxed out between 80% and 100% at all time

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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i personally dont see another cpu jump like we just recently did for a while, even then, theres not a lot of games outside of bfv, tomb raider, and forze games that are even utilizing 6cores atm

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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what mobo should i get for the r2600?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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for what it is bf v is surprisingly easy going on the gpus

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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any B450, I wouldn't go for a Gigabyte one though

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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bf games have always been particularily exigent on cpu

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why not gigabyte

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@latent light the 2600 with wraith stealth does not boost to 4 ghz, pure stock also limits it to 3.9ghz

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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gigabyte low end boards are horrendous

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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wraith stealth = intel cpu cooler quality

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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i dont want a low end board

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i need a mid one

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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wraith stealth is 20% more cooler than intel stock cooler

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have you done research by any chance

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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msi tomahawk is always recommended for bang for buck ryzen board

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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me? yes but everyone says different things tbh

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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grims talking to salty in that response

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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i have a 2600 that i used with wraith stealth for 3 weeks until my AIO came in

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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there's low end B450 and high end B450

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same for X470

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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and i had a x470-f motherboard with that 2600

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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i just want a decent regular sized mobo

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for multiple disk

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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ATX is regular sized

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basically, youre gonna have to do research on MB for your region

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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ok so r2600, b450, 16 gb ram

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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prices and availability and all

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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find a list of decently reviewed boards b450/x470, make a list and pick based on price/features

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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ASRock B450 Pro4, is probably your best bet

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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i tried part picking for someone out of my region, and it was a pain in the ass

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they didnt have what i did, things that were nice but expensive for me, were super cheap for him

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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yeah i know

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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what country are you in ando

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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spent hours with that guy just on MB

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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argentina

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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check prices

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i do, they are around 2.5 higher than their original prices /shrug

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x2.5*

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like, the 2060 costs around 680 here

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and you dont want to know what the min wage is

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buying this for me is the equivalent for you buying a car

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or worse

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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damn so when argentina imports products, they jack up the prices?

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i guess so yeah thats how the world works

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third world*

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and i cant ship

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all of this is besides thw topic

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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2060 can be found for $350 USD in the US

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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dw

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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thats how south america works

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brazil has an industry of people flying to 'muricah, loading up on expensive goods, flying back

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and selling it

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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lets not deviate

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budget talk wont help unless yall are from my same country

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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idk just check the prices of the i5-8400 and Ryzen 5 2600 in your country

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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so nvm that

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well the r2600 is a little bit cheaper

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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just a random question that has nothing to do with the current topic...... does anyone know python the code here?

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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243 vs 291

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usd

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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that's a large margin

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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yeah its larger than i remembered

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so the ryzen isnt only better but considerably cheaper

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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not better

scarlet rain Mar 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Mb goota go with asus>>

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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similar

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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i have no idea granty sorry

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better cause 12 cores vs 6 i pressume? in the long term

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not necessarily better in current performance

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as long as it lasts longer, thats just better

scarlet rain Mar 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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2700x>>

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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12 threads vs 6 threadss

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same amount of cores

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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oic

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but you still recommend r2600

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Yes

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I would even if the same price

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Having 6 extra threads will go a long way

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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ok thats what i mean by better

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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that 6 threads is more threads than i have over all woahthink

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put it that way XD

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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6 cores/12 threads vs 6 cores/6 threads

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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yea got it

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btw is it really worth it having one ssd with the OS in and additional hdds?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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yes

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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i was planning to install windows on a ssd, games on a hdd and everything else in another hdd

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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the bigger question was r5-2600 vs 8600k, where 8600k arguably performs better in most online fps's and singlethread games and 2600 has longevity, more threads, and in many cases better price/peformance

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yes having a SSD as the operating system drive is very useful

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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having hdds are great for storing things like music pictures documents and movies etc, where as having a ssd is great for any application really, so its worth having both if you can

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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should i divide the rest into two hdds or should i just buy one big hdd

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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1 HDD is easier to manage

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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it dont make a difference as long as they are the same read/ write but what grim said is true

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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what are the common sizes beyond 2 tb?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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4TB

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And 6TB

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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you could say that if you have 2 hdds and one becomes corrupted you only lose half the files, but the chances of that happening are very slim

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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6 sounds tempting but probably overkill and expensive

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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WD black has 2,4,6

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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do you really need over 2 TB?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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i have 1.25tb and im doing fine...

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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maybe just get a 2tb and if you really need more you could just get another 500gb

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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One big upside with several drives: Backup incase of failure

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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you could get a 250GB SSD as the OS drive and a 2 TB as the games drive, hell you could put a few games on the SSD too

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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ive been using 1tb and always feel very limited

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felt*

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i already got a 240gb ssd

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guess im getting a 4tb hdd

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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you got a 240GB ssd as the OS drive?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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i would just get another 1tb and use what you already have..

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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i havent set it yet grim but yes thats the plan

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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oh it's new?

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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ye

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its rhe only thing i bought so far

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I just hope it's not a WD Blue SSD lol

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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for the new pc

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yeah idk

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lol

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ill check later

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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what gpu are you planning on getting for your new pc, just out of interest ?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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WD Blue SSDs are not that much faster than a mechanical HDD

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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btw thank you guys you helped me a lot i love ta

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ya*

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ill keep using my r9 380 till i feel i must buy a new one or it dies

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iguess

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the 1660ti they mentioend here sounds good

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:32 PM

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reviewers say that it performs like all other SATA SSDs

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:32 PM

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im getting it in just over a month : )

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:32 PM

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which is ~500mb/s read

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:32 PM

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i cant wait to get the 1660ti

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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yea i dont recall any bad speeds for wd blue ssd's

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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yeah the 1660 Ti will get at least 60-80% higher performance than a 380

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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i can tell you something, my 1060 3gb wont be missed

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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now the m.2 wd ssds are the same speeds as sata ssds, but DID cost more

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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what's wrong with your 1060

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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its 3gb

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xD

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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^

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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im not sure the 1660ti has come to my country yet, how new is it exactly?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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came out last month

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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about a month

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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yeah defo not here yet

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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tbh, RX 570 is even better than a 1060 3gb

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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ye the 6gb version isnt that bad imo, but the 3gb is just a scam

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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should of been 4GB not 3GB

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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i have the 3gb for small games

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otherwise it runs into problems

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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this was my first pc and i didnt really know what i was looking for, i just saw the 1060 and thought it was good

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same as my cpu, i could have got such a better one than the i5 7400 for basically the same price

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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yeah the i5-7400 is such a terrible option

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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tfw when you always play on low and games usually use around 2gb vram

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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now that that Ryzen 5 and the i5-8400 exists

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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again, i honestly thought all i5s where the same, i wasnt looking at the number after

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i guess we learn from our mistakes

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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lol

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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and this was a big mistake

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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i did the same when I bought a laptop and tbh in laptops the benefit is only in terms of battery life

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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i was the same when i got my i7 3770 but tbh i wasnt disappointed, i got it back in 2013 and it still performs very decently for me

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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my friend wanted to do a build with a 7700 for 320 bucks yesterday.. im like dude... dont

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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3770 is still great

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I think you could even run a 1080 Ti on a 3770 and not bottleneck, well it would on BFV

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:38 PM

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probably at 1440p

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:38 PM

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my school computers have the i7 4760 i think thats the right one, i have a bad memory and it performs amazing at cad which is what i use it for, and its not too expensive

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:38 PM

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maybe BF1 it would too

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4770

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holy shit my internet is garbage right now, stay the fuck away from CenturyLink

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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could be a 4790

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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its discord i think, if you mean the message sent really late i mean

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because it did the same for me just then

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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nah my internet went off for 10 seconds

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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oh right ok

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:40 PM

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got the yellow caution sign right next to my internet connection

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@latent light you’re so right about centurylink. Got disconnected from a game of apex top 2 because of it

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Because of my internet cutting out

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:40 PM

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centurylink should be burned to the ground

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we pay $60 a month for 3 mbps

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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wooow

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fuck that

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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im kinda glad we dont have the over here XD

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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and to upgrade internet package, it would be $120 a month for 10 mbps

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i pay 70 bucks for 100mbps

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Yeah idk what we get but my download speed is ass

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Unlocked I7s all the way from sandy are still good

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i have a crap upload but good download

minor turret Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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though i am sceptical of 3xxx gen since it was the first unsoldered gen

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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SuddenLink >>>> CenturyLink

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:42 PM

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it also helps that my router is on my desk and i have a really good lan cable tho

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because my laptop doesnt get near that sort of speed

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@latent light are those advertised prices?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:43 PM

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i also made my router rgb Kappa

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I need a Ethernet cable for my ps4

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:43 PM

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first 2 years of the contract it was $30 a month then after it was $60

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and to upgrade the package it would jump to $120

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Bruh I shouldn’t even be downloading MWR. I won’t even play it much.. but it’s taking fucking forever and a half to download

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:43 PM

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i put a lil light inside the case and because of tiny ventilation holes it shines through in spectacular fashion

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:44 PM

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It was free is the only reason I’m download it. Just to be clear lol

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:44 PM

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i dont know why it matters about the reason you are downloading it XD

dusty grail Mar 7, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Lol it’s battlefield server here. Just thought I should say

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:45 PM

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doesnt mean that you have to hate every other game and you are heretic if you play something else

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another thing, i didnt know it was possible for a pixel on your screen to get resurrected from the dead, the other day i noticed a dead pixel, i just checked and it has seemingly fixed its self

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i was so glad that this monitor was finally starting to die, because i would have an excuse to get a new monitor XD

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me wants 1440p

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I know some people kind of massage the area where the dead pixel is to fix it

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 6:50 PM

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do you guys know any site where i can compare different gpus and it tells me which is better in what regards and what not?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:50 PM

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userbench mark

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its my fave place to go heh

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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userbenchmark isn't 100% accurate but it works

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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the pricing is a little jacked on it i can say that

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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the game benchmarks on the bottom of the page are inaccurate though

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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according to that the 1660 ti is £213

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like my arse

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its more £260

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrW_brHNt_4

YouTube

wolfgang

RTX 2060 vs RTX 2070 Test in 10 Games

▶ Play video

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2070 is in a bad spot

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LUL

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2060 is far better option for value

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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what would you say is the better option tho... the 2060 or the 1660 ti ....

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ik im bias but i would say the 1660 ti

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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1660 Ti is basically a 1070 in performance but with less VRAM

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although GDDR6 does make up for some of that lost VRAM

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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im right in saying that its cheaper than the 1070 tho right ?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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yeah

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you can get a 1070 for $320 I think

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1660 Ti is $50 cheaper

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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is that really worth a bit of vram tho, like i really dont know how they have made the 1660 ti so cheap

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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1660 Ti isn't even innovative

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$280 for 1070 performance isn't a big deal

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i thought the 1660 ti was closer to 1070ti

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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tbh the only thing innovative is the name XD

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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2060 is equal to 1070 Ti

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i find their reasoning for the name so funny

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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1660 Ti is equal to 1070

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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https://youtu.be/Y-_kxDrK2Xw?t=226

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slightly better than 1070, not as good as ti for 1440p

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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i honestly think that anything over a 2070 for gaming is basically just flexing your money, because like im sorry but you cant tell the difference between 200 fps and 400, like no matter how picky you are with the frame rate, you would not be able to tell the difference

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i cant tell the difference between 60 and 100

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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1070<1660ti<1070ti in perf

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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im pretty sure in rare cases the 1660ti will out perform the 1070 ti by just a hair, its in very few games tho

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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sure, but the price difference still means theres no reason to get 1070ti

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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^

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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2060 far better option than 1070 ti

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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talking 5fps average less than 1070ti

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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well you have ray tracing for a start

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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RTX isn't good

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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i kinda like the rtx in bf, but ik it sacrifices a lot of frames

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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idk why people say ray tracing and DLSS is a feature, ray tracing cripples performance and isn't even true ray tracing in the first place and DLSS is blurry as hell

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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1660ti vs 2060 seems to be a 10 to sometimes 20 fps dif

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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@latent light literally this

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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🤷

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@storm osprey some of the benches I've seen can be up to like a 40 fps difference

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:05 PM

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turn down resolution scale to 80% looks better than DLSS

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:05 PM

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possibly, im just looking at a couple of videos atm

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:05 PM

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was looking at comparison videos yesterday

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1660 ti is 1070 level but gets like 15+ degrees hotter

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I forgot what the 1%'s were

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:06 PM

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oh wow,

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:06 PM

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https://assets.rockpapershotgun.com/images/2019/02/GTX-1660-Ti-vs-RTX-2060-1080p.png

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:06 PM

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but it wasn't anything to scoff at

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Mmm

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That graph is interesting

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Doesn't include BFV which is where I saw it

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:07 PM

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wow what an upgrade, we're finally getting xx70 series performance 3 years later on a xx60 ti series graphics card for a whole 50$ less!

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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heh

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thanks ngreedia

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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imo 1660ti replaces everything till 2070

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I'd share that opinion

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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given you can get msrp prices

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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its the price that gives it that factor i think tho

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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of course

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its like saying i can get within 20 fps of a 1660ti but for 100 bucks

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id get that

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Ti is averaged around 280 while the 1070 is still 450 ish

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so gross

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lowest I've seen from a new 1070 recently was about 380

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Asus gtx 1070 on Newegg for $330

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:09 PM

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I'm guessing it's on sale

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or refurbished

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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i dont see that

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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also one on B&H photo for $325

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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when i do get my 1660 ti, should i just get the stock one or get one of the 3rd party versions ?

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADFR7AW8138&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-Computer+Headquarters-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-9SIADFR7AW8138&gclid=Cj0KCQiAn4PkBRCDARIsAGHmH3ezULIwmdMk-6iWGp7LML15NDHtHo_j4wsM5i9Gag98fYbvRadRc4IaAqT2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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found it

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ye it's refurbished

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smh

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1299077-REG/zotac_zt_p10700g_10m_mini_gtx_1070.html/?ap=y&gclid=Cj0KCQiAn4PkBRCDARIsAGHmH3fpleSVo24mYoUrnqC-jAhvCcss7zwt2dTOIMey12-IBrh2FHcEnooaArmUEALw_wcB&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Mini Graphics Card

Buy ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Mini Graphics Card featuring 1518 MHz Core - Boostable to 1708 MHz, 1920 CUDA Cores Pascal Architecture. Review ZOTAC GTX 1070

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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because how i see it is im paying a load extra for an oc that i could probs do my self and some better cooling that i dont even think would matter for me

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:11 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ITIXZQA/?tag=pcpapi-20

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literally the cheapest 1070 in stock i can find thats new

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hmm that zotac not coming up in pcpartpicker

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:11 PM

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ye

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it's on amazon though

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https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10700G-10M/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=zotac+1070+mini&qid=1551985922&s=electronics&sr=1-1

Amazon.com: ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Mini 8GB GDDR5 VR Ready Super C...

Amazon.com: ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Mini 8GB GDDR5 VR Ready Super Compact Gaming Graphics Card (ZT-P10700G-10M): Computers & Accessories

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:12 PM

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the one that nyphon sent looks horrendous XD

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:12 PM

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those are used though through amazon

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:12 PM

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ik looks doesnt change the performance but come on XD

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:12 PM

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mhm

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new is 380

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:12 PM

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yea, so still, 1660 ti replaces anything new until 2070 imo

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:14 PM

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pretty much, its kinda funny how they have released a product that was meant to be midrange and they have killed a large portion of their market XD

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:17 PM

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still waiting on amd to drop navi..

lime pollen Mar 7, 2019, 7:18 PM

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So

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I told a few people about this already

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but a new vulnerability came up for intel's processors

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it's called Spoiler

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smh intel smh

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 7:22 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uivw93AcmUU

YouTube

Tech YES City

AMD Vs. Microsoft - 2990WX CorePrio Fix on Windows 10

In yesterday's comparison ( people informed me of a CorePrio Fix (https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/) we tested the i9-9980XE and compared it to the the ...

▶ Play video

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Windows 10 uses a scheduler that is two generations older than Linux

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thonk

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 7:35 PM

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i guess im buying my parts today

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600w psu, b450 atx, r5 2600, 16gb ram

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after i leave work

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which is in like half an hour

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oh and a 4tb disk

deft bone Mar 7, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Why so big of an hdd?

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Why not split it down and get a small ish SSD?

molten coral Mar 7, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Hi Ando ameowmeltwave

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 7:39 PM

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hi.. whoever you are

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i will use a small ssd and a 4tb hdd

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i use a lot of space

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dont question me you mortal

deft bone Mar 7, 2019, 7:40 PM

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I was just asking

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:52 PM

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ando getting spicy up in here XD

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https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-rog-strix-oc-gaming-6gb-gddr6-graphics-card-1536-core-1500mhz-gpu-1860mhz-b

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https://www.scan.co.uk/products/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-twin-fan-6gb-gddr6-graphics-card-1536-core-1770mhz-boost

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why should i pay an extra 100 for 36 mghz on core and 100 mghz on clock

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:55 PM

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asus vs zotac

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trip fan vs dual

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:55 PM

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but what is the difference ?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:55 PM

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RGB

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:55 PM

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yes the fans

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:55 PM

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maybe one OC better, is quieter, and better quality?

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but i agree, i dont see where they get 100 more

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just saying, its not as simple as the numbers at face value

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i prsonally dont see myself getting a zotac gpu at all any time soon

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:56 PM

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true, i mean the only obvious thing is the one extra fan which in turn can make it much quieter because you dont have to have them spinning as fast

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 7:57 PM

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even though i hear they are good

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id rather get evga, msi, or asus

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in that order

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(i think asus gpus, and other products, tend to be over priced)

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 7:58 PM

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there was a 1660 ti which has the dual fan and same clocks as the zotac one and was the same price just had different visuals and was from a different company, but i cant find the hecking thing now XD

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https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-ventus-xs-oc-6gb-gddr6-graphics-card-1536-core-1830mhz-boost?gclid=Cj0KCQiAn4PkBRCDARIsAGHmH3dn_tV-lo5dGrdIA5VdapK7HK2QqHpiZpLusB0VbS96h_0p2N-8PNsaApMLEALw_wcB

i take that back XD

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found it

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for some reason i had to go to google and search 1660 ti because the website search bar didnt find it for some reason

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im pretty certain this is the model im going to get, does anyone know an obvious reason that i shouldnt get this, one that im not seeing ?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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on pc part picker america it has lower reviews than other stuff you can get at around the same price

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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you meant that model or just the 1660 ti in general ?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:03 PM

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id look at that one vs the msi armor edition

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:03 PM

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i was just looking at that heh

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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https://gyazo.com/92aa55f71e03425136cf97282e883412

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for here, the armor seemed like a worth upgrade

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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maybe....

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what about gigabyte ?

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Gigabyte is good as long as you don't get a defective unit

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their RMA service sucks

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-gaming-oc-6gb-gddr6-graphics-card-1536-core-1500mhz-gpu-1860mhz-boost

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this has the triple fan option

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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gigabyte imo is the best "2nd rate" gpus

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id consider evga, msi, and asus first rate

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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but i man have to check if that even fits in my case XD

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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for Nvidia EVGA, MSI, PNY, Zotac

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Zotac maybe not but

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:06 PM

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pny?

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ew

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:06 PM

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zotac is doing much better now than they did before Pascal

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MSI and EVGA are my favorite for Nvidia

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MSI and Sapphire for AMD

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:07 PM

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i would go with the evga option but the only one i can find is single fan, and i would really like to have double

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cuz i have a single fan and i have to have it at 2500 rpm to keep it at 80 degrees, and you can imagine how loud that is

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:09 PM

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i would go with msi armor for my region and prices

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:09 PM

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ye i think that too is what i am going to get

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:09 PM

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the couple of msi cards i had were probably better than my evga cards

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they at least didnt have coil whine like my evga cards have

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:10 PM

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well msi it is i guess

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:11 PM

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MSI Armor has the weakest cooler out of all MSI cards (except single fans)

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:11 PM

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oof

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:11 PM

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well it might be different on RTX

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but on Pascal, MSI armor cooler was underwhelming

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it was good on the 1060

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but on the 1070 and 1080 it got pretty hot

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:15 PM

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my only other option is to go with gigabyte, asus is wayy too expensive, msi armour seems to perform better but even still has bad cooling, the evga is only single fan.. and i have been told that zotac is a bad choice.

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i mean maybe the evga single fan would cool just as well as a dual

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notlikethis

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:15 PM

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it would probably be loud

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wait are you looking at 1660 Ti?

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:16 PM

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ye

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 8:16 PM

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MSI Ventus is great

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even has a backplate iirc

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 8:18 PM

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custom GPU cooler gang 😎

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:19 PM

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mutters under breath "show off"

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jk jk

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 8:22 PM

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the Arctic Accelero Xtreme products are worthwhile af

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if you're not too squeamish to dismantle your video card

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10/10 would recommend

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:22 PM

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that isnt for me then

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 8:22 PM

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your temps are almost as good as attaching a liquid cooler to them

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since you can strap on like 2x 120mm fans to a huge heatsink

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:25 PM

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armor has back plate and rgb

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and reviews for ventus seems generally low

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:26 PM

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i mean i dont care about the back plate or the rgb if im being honest, like my case doesnt have clear view inside so meh

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 8:27 PM

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well, i would read more into the 2 and see if what the lesser reviews are for

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 8:49 PM

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YESS FINALLY I GOT SLI TO WORK IN BFV THANK U GOD

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Chag boost happy

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yeah you can't use dx12

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 8:53 PM

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i know

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the method i used doesnt work perfectly but it still gives better fps

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than 1 card

supple bane Mar 7, 2019, 8:56 PM

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what cards are you using to sli?

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 8:57 PM

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msi rtx 2080 gaming x trio

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in other games it works perfectly and 80 to 100% scaling but bfv is another story

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 8:58 PM

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guys quick question

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im at a store

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they have the b450 pro m-2

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but its mini

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the regular size atx seems to be hard to find

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here i mean

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should i go for it or keep searching? is the mini worse?

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i dont plan on overclocking

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 9:00 PM

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its not worst it just doesnt have all the features

latent light Mar 7, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Micro ATX or mATX for short, is more common it seems and cheaper

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 9:01 PM

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what features would i be missing?

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i dont think id care about those features but im just curious

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cause i dont wanna commit a mistake

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 9:01 PM

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bigger diffrence would be something like inputs and sli

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 9:01 PM

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i dont plan on oc’ing or doing sli

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what sort of inputs?

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 9:02 PM

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than u should be fine and nothing important it depends on the motherboard itself but all of the necessary inputs are there

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 9:03 PM

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mATX is cheaper because its smaller

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 9:04 PM

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mini-itx/mini-atx theyre more practical enyways theyre cheaper and fit more cases

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 9:04 PM

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mITX isn't generally cheaper

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and it looks like ass in an ATX case

vocal vapor Mar 7, 2019, 9:05 PM

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thats true tho i do like atx more myself but mini is still more practical

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unless ur building a 3000 pc xD

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 9:06 PM

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@fallen harbor youll mostly miss out on ram slots and pcie slots, so if you wanted to add a sound card or something down the line you mostly cant

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 9:13 PM

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You won't miss out on RAM slots or PCIe

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sound cards are worthless nowadays and 32GB of RAM is generally overkill for gaming

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 9:14 PM

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2 vs 4 ram slots, 2 pcie slots that 1 will get covered with if you use a gpu

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and sound cards are not worthless

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im saying that those things will be missing, literally missing, doesnt mean he will need/want them

quasi sparrow Mar 7, 2019, 9:17 PM

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mITX gang 😎

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useful for the 3 times a year i need to put my desktop in my backpack

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 9:18 PM

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i use a sound card, so i need a mid tower

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:07 PM

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jemand da der deutsch spricht?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:07 PM

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english only please

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tis the rules

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:08 PM

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ok i got some trouble with the new update

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after i have install it battlefield v doessnt want start

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:08 PM

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we are not official tech support or anything like that, so its unlikely we can really help

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wed mostly say verify files

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restart comp

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redownload

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:09 PM

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jeah but a lot of people got this problem

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and we got redownload reinstall and repair und all this doesnt work

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:09 PM

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updated graphic card drivers ?

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latest windows version ?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@violet plank jah but i going back to the old this idea i got too

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the problem is sice the new bf update

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:10 PM

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first time i read this

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:11 PM

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apex is ready and run

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https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technische-Fragen/Battlefield-V-sturzt-ab-nach-Update-vom-13-02-19/m-p/7484235#M2068

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:12 PM

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are you in that thread ?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:12 PM

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ehm jeah i think my name is hindenburg1911

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and this i my thread

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https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technische-Fragen/Battlefield-V-nach-neustem-update-Startet-nicht-richtig/m-p/7642277#M2193

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by my thread you see the picture of blackscreen loading the bf exe

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:15 PM

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hmm,strange

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:15 PM

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jep and bevor the last update i can play without problems

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also when i start bfv its will start the exe windows going up its loading a time of 5-10 seconds after that it close quickly

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exe broke up to work

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:18 PM

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no idea atm what could cause the problem

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other than bfv itself

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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ok but thx

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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maybe try a clean reinstall of the nvidia drivers

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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reinstall everything

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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this ddu option or how it is called

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he did everything else

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and don't overclock gfx card

fallen harbor Mar 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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finally decided to buy the pc parts
get off the store
FUCKING APOCALYPTIC STORM GOING ON
no car too

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@storm osprey i have allready do origin complete new install and bfv new i delete afterburner ander evga stuff

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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try the clean install of nvidia drivers

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:22 PM

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because in forum people think its problem with afterburner or so

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hmm i have install fresh the nvdiia but i cant retry

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can

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:22 PM

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never had any problems with afterburner

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but if you overclock it can cause problems with bfv

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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no i didtnt overclock , i just using it for read the stuff like temp or so

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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the option where you really do a clean reinstall ?

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if you do custom installation

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on the drivers

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:24 PM

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jeah i retry to clean the nvidia drivers in 5 min

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maybe this will fix the problem but i think not^^ because bevor update coming for battlefield i have update nvidia and it work finde von apex b and bfv

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:25 PM

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nah,i doubt it too

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:25 PM

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an d after bfv update and origin update its doesnt open any bf exe correctly

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bf1 same problem

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only apex is working

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:26 PM

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is apex running frostbite engine too ?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:26 PM

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jea apex using frostbite 2.0

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:26 PM

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weird

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:26 PM

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no

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Apex runs on the same engine as Titanfall

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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enlighten us

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dunno,don't play it

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Source engine

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heavily modified

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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so maybe the problem is caused by the frostbite engine

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so it must be a driver problem

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Only DICE uses the Frostbite engine

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

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gfx driver problem

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Its a respawn error

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You need to go back a few drivers until they fix it

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Since its not NVidia's fault

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

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yeah maybe

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that would help

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:29 PM

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hmm how i cant change frostbite enginge update :D?

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:29 PM

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if the clean install dosen't help

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no

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try the clean install option,if it dosen't work,use older drivers

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try older drivers

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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ok from nvidia?

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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yep

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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anyone here think a laptop 580 is the same as a desktop 580?

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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no way imo

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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i have^^ 416.34-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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cause of power cons

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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on os

violet plank Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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the latest nvidia drivers are 419.35

lost venture Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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@prime jasper I said building a PC was cheaper than Buying one?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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thats the old

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...

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jeah

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@storm osprey It's not a 580.

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It's a WX7100.

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It runs at the same clocks as a desktop 580.

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It's basically a 580, shoved into a laptop.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:32 PM

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but its not

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yes, it is.

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Same GPU core, same number of CUs.

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Same memory, same clocks.

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It is literally the same thing as a desktop RX 580.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:32 PM

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and i can guarantee you i can build a desktop for the same price that will perf better than a laptop

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:32 PM

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i hope ea will fix it quick^^ thats no funny with this bugs^^

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Okay, go ahead.

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$500, quad-core Haswell or better with hyperthreading

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a display

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and an RX 580.

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That's what this laptop offers.

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If you can do that for $500, new or used

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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where is this laptop?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I'd shit my pants.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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link?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/273660865691 + a Dell M6800, used.

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Or M6700.

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They go for $200~ on ebay as barebones.

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aka. display, board, CPU.

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(and the chassis ofc)

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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but thats not 500...

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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... yes it is?

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Item location:
Hong Kong, Hong Kong

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xD

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@prime jasper yes, all your parts come from China.

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Every single one of them.

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@storm osprey GPU is $300. Laptop is $200.

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300 + 200

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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lets see
``AMD Radeon Pro WX7100 8GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 Type B For Dell Precision 7710 7720 7730
Popular Item 1 watched in last 24 hours
Condition:Used
Price:US $329.99
$30 for 12 months *

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that says 330 right there

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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...

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holy shit

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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plus 200

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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EXACT same thing.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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is not 500

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wow

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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It is $500.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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math is hard

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I'm not saying "oh, it's $532.196"

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Math: 0

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I rounded down, dumbass.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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you can say its 530....

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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... ok

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go build a PC for $530 with those specs, new or used.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@prime jasper $500? ez

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Give me a few minutes

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Needs a minimum of a quad-core, 8 thread Haswell or better CPU.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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we got 530

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Needs an RX 580./

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Needs 16GB of RAM.

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Needs a display.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Haswell is bad

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Sorry, needs a good quality 1080p display, VA or IPS

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and not e-IPS.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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hell i saw an rx 580 for 200 bucks that came with 2 free new games

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choice of dmc, division 2, and some other game

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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also

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Sorry but you are asking a lot of $500

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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just in case you don't believe me, https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-Pro-WX-7100-GPU.215342.0.html

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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So try again

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Those are the clocks of a laptop WX7100

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@steep gust ... uh

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I have that available in a $530 laptop already

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that I just linked.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Good monitors are like $150

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Yep.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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wait this is a workstation gpu

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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I can do it in a laptop.

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@storm osprey ./.. and?

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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that is old

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and has its own issues

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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and you think its gonna perf same as a rx 580 desktop for gaming?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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... yes.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Like Haswell CPU

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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It's the same GPU core, same clocks

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same 3D drivers.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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build me a $500 PC
"But include a top 1080p monitor with it"
Are you a Best Buy mom or something?

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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doesnt mean its the same

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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do you understand how GPU boosting works?

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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LUL

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@noble steeple ... THE LAPTOP INCLUDES IT

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FOR THE SAME PRICE.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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he doesnt get thermals either

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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jesus.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I mean GPU clocks mean nothing on paper

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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...

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oh my god.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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But it's like...17"

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Gee

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I have built 20 of these for clients.

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They don't throttle.

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The GPU runs at 73-75C max loads.

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The CPU is similar.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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That is throttling

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Uh, no, it isn't.

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Haswell throttles at 90C.

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Polaris throttles at 95C.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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and you rip the off if you say it performs the same as good as a desktop

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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GPU scaling throttles at like

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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yes, @storm osprey

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because it does.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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55C?

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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@noble steeple has a fucking 1070 in his laptop

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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It differs from each GPU

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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it's practically the same as a desktop

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as he said.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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thinksmile

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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its not

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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@steep gust I have an RX 580 here.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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It is

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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I have a WX7100 here.

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I have a laptop WX7100 here.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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But the laptop costed over 1500 bucks

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Also good luck getting a laptop to cool a 250w GPU

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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uh

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it does, just fine.

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73-75C at 1200MHz.

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Same clocks as an RX 580.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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And my desktop build still performs better

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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sorry, sorry, I was wrong

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the laptop WX7100 runs 50MHz lower.

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so it's 4% slower!

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wow such big difference.

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also, @storm osprey

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 PM

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except there more to it than just the numbers

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 PM

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of course the laptop can cool it

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it's 1.5" thick

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Okay you don't understand how GPU clocks work

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 PM

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^

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:39 PM

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... I do, yes.

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I have it running right next to me, rendering.

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It's sitting at 1200MHz on the core.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Yes and the cooler it gets

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The higher it boosts

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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... no, not really.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Yes, yes really

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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that... isn't... how GPU boosting works at all.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Its more noticeable on Pascal / Turing GPUs

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but even Radeon cards have thermal scaling

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@storm osprey https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImage/A7RB_13188328521798291164Qa06Dskn.jpg

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you tell me that laptop can't cool a high TDP GPU.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:40 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9TwndWcvM4

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another video showing they dont perform the same

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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It can't

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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uhhh

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Without sounding loud as shit

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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that isn't comparing what I'm doing, @storm osprey

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@steep gust It sure can, I have 20+ of them.

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@storm osprey You are comparing ENTIRELY different GPUs.

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I am using a WX7100.

coarse nimbus Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@steep gust are you enjoying yourself yet? happy

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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It does not throttle as hard as an RX 580 in the same scenarios.

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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My laptop is equally thick and gets quite loud when i play games

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It gets awfully hot

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@noble steeple This laptop does not. Here, I'll go get some fan noise.

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It is a VERY well designed machine meant for businesses.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean I'm not doing anything

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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The fans are massive.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Fun fact business laptops don't have dedicated GPUs

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@steep gust ....

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........

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?????????

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https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/precision-7730/spd/precision-17-7730-laptop/xctop7730hwus

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??????????????????

noble steeple Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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My fans are quiet too when doing business stuff with it

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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what the fuck are you saying again?

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Business laptops typically have swappable graphics.

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Hence why I said upgrade the GPU.

storm osprey Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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well.. there are no gaming benchmarks for that gpu that i can find...

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wonder why

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@storm osprey Because it's a business GPU.

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Designed for compute.

steep gust Mar 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Tell me

prime jasper Mar 7, 2019, 10:43 PM

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It's also the same GPU core, same clocks, smae memory as an RX 580.