Labor depends on how they are manufactured, lots are automated now
#technology
steep gust
covert heron
@snow snow is the rest of their PC up to date? like are they on the latest windows 10?
i know at some point one of the nvidia drivers wouldn't install unless you were on the latest windows version, so if its saying there are no updates perhaps that might be causing it?
but i think that was sometime around the fall creators update in like october
arctic veldt
Is a bug? https://youtu.be/yV_arpp67Hc
steep gust
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covert folio
So i have a question...I have just purchased this game recently and i am having trouble running this game bc of my bottleneck. I have a GTX 1070 8gb i5 6500 3.2ghz 8gb ram single channel. Any suggestions or youtube videos that will help with extreme optimization.
Getting new hardware this year just wanna be able to play well before then.
molten bramble
Seems like the specs are just enough to meet minimums. Are you asking about settings or are you trying to overclock your machine?
Oh, 6500 vs 6600, on mobile and didn’t catch it.
covert heron
that single channel ram isn't helping either
molten bramble
Not much difference until you get into overclockjng it looks like, then the 6600 takes off.
steep gust
@covert folio undervolt the CPU and let it draw more power
If you have an open RAM slot then add another stick
Let the GPU draw more power (if you can keep it cool)
unique copper
Anyone good here regarding networking issues? Lol
keen forge
What network issues @unique copper?
molten bramble
@unique copper could you be more specific?
unique copper
Right, i have 350 mbps internet and 25 upload usually. So i have had zero issues in a very, very, very long time playing on the east coast in America with my friend and all of a sudden my ping has gone from 89-92 (great days) to 115-119 for no god damn reason. I stopped playing bf for nearly 2 weeks to play the red dead redemption beta, but i can't ask EA, people here because they've ignored me or on the forums because i have to have an account connected to Origin.
Have they moved the servers?
molten bramble
Are you playing EU servers perhaps?
I have a 4ms ping on average on NA servers, but if I play EU I am about 50-65ms.
unique copper
I can play on my servers, i just want to know why the hell the ping is 119 all of a sudden on EC when it's been fine for a year + lol.
unique copper
My friend can't play on mine, as he's in America and would get 147 ping
keen forge
Hey, if you get 160+ ping it gives you a little “where to aim” marker to account for it xD
unique copper
My ping on EU is 33/34 or 36 sometimes, but it's so annoying not having normal ping and i've asked my ISP about faults but none are there
I was wondering if they'd moved the servers or some crap
To ourofmyreachville lol
*out
molten bramble
So you’re in EU or NA?
keen forge
In England I get good ping but the lag icon things occasionally, I think the servers are just a little stressed or whatever
molten bramble
On mobile, roles don’t show for me.
unique copper
EU, trying to play East coast servers with a friend
As i said my ping used to be 92 there, now it's unreal
molten bramble
Hmm, I used to have that trouble on both Deutsch Telekom and O2 wireless.
unique copper
Punishment for me playing the red dead beta lol
molten bramble
It was something with issue at their DSLAM on the first one, on the second, just poor coverage.
unique copper
Was fine 2 weeks ago and now it's just plain bad. No packet loss and i am not trying to play during peak US times either
molten bramble
That’s weird. Does any other game service or website lag?
unique copper
For me, no just BF 1. I tried to change my nat type but that was just annoying
Only on East Coast the lag happens for obvious reasons, but 115 is not playable because everyone is a ninja
molten bramble
Might be a NAT issue, or you could just be getting throttled by the provider.
unique copper
Apparently i have no caps etc from my provider
molten bramble
Are you wireless in the home or wired?
unique copper
Wired
molten bramble
All appropriate ports open? Any port mapping?
unique copper
Nope, tried to do that also but it made me crazy lol
Wanted nat type 1 as it's the best apparently, i'm using nat 2 now
Always have been on nat 2
prime jasper
Hey is this where we can post about the issues we're having?
molten bramble
There are some websites out there that have walk-through a on ports for routers.
@prime jasper if tech related yes
unique copper
Yeah, i saw them but my god my head wanted to explode
prime jasper
I got Battlefield V for Xbox and everything was great but now I'm not gaining progress for achievements, reviving squad teammates and capturing the flag don't credit the achievements?
molten bramble
@unique copper Well, you’re not really helping your situation then by eliminating the immediate possibilities.
unique copper
I tried to PF and DMZ, but after looking at guides it seems they are old because the screenshots do not match my router page
molten bramble
@prime jasper For something like that, you might want to ask in #battlefield-legacy-titles to see if anyone else has encountered it, but otherwise EA Answers HQ is your best bet.
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prime jasper
Heavily appreciated man, thanks!
molten bramble
No worries
keen forge
Assignment issues are/were a huge issue recently - don’t know if they fixed
unique copper
I'm just confused as hell, because it was fine 100% then it just went up like a rocket on the ping. Even at Christmas when everyone had holidays i had no issues lol
EU = great because they are my servers... East Coast = annoying
molten bramble
@unique copper You need to take your time and use a little of the ole noggin buddy, scrub through the most similar bits. Packet filtering and port assignments are two different things, work with the latter and leave the other alone.
unique copper
I'll try port forwarding
molten bramble
Ah, port forwarding. PF for me means packet filtering.
unique copper
Having nat type 1 apparently makes every game better, but i only need it for bf 1 lol. Because GTA, red dead etc etc all work perfectly
molten bramble
I don’t think port forwarding will be necessary, just open the appropriate ports unless you have statically assigned internal routing.
What router are you using?
unique copper
Well, i run my router via the "hub" my isp gave me because the wi-fi from said "hub" is crap. Asus ac3200
Triband
molten bramble
And do you have a factory or alternative firmware?
unique copper
Factory
Upgraded it recently and it's still the same for bf, not like that would do anything lol. Also, i have tried bf 1 via my internet service providers "hub" and the ping remains at 115-119
molten bramble
The hub sounds like a modem and WiFi combined device.
unique copper
Yeah, it's in modem mode now so i can use my router
molten bramble
Do you need a router between them?
Do you have more than one machine?
Most modems have their own DHCP service embedded.
unique copper
Well, the hub has the internet coming through it so i need to use an ethernet for my router to get internet
molten bramble
Have you tried removing the router and direct connecting to the modem to eliminate the possibility of a janky device?
unique copper
Yeeep, tried that and resetting everything
Factory resets i mean as well as switching it on and off
molten bramble
No difference?
unique copper
Still 119 mega ping lol
molten bramble
You connected your eth0 to the modem, no router in between you’re saying?
unique copper
Connected my ps4 to the "hub" for the direct connection, but the ping is still high. Got my router connected (which i plug my ps4 into) and it's still high
molten bramble
Sounds like the bottleneck is your ISP. I would suspect either interference on the lines (that happens as lines degrade or are damaged), you’re being throttled by the ISP, or the lanes at the server (or somewhere in between) are being capped.
unique copper
This hub device has 2 modes, one has the wi-fi turned on and you can use it for a solid connection too. I have it in "modem mode" so the wi-fi is off via said device and i use my own router. But you have to plug a router into the hub to get the internet connection/wi-fi. I have looked and i have no caps etc or faults, i think it's the bf servers
molten bramble
See if your ISP has a different subnet they can swap you to perhaps? Most ISPs worth their salt are multi-homed.
unique copper
I'll ask them to perform checks again, because it's not normal
molten bramble
If it’s BF/EA load-balancing, then there is probably no solution since I would imagine they would be attempting to manage saturation.
steep gust
Check your router / modem settings to make sure everything looks okay
unique copper
I'll try just using the "hub" for port forwarding and see if that works
As it seems a lot easier to do than on my router
molten bramble
I’ve not dealt with your router myself, but I am sure there is a write up somewhere. Just takes patience to go through it and familiarize yourself with the terminology.
molten bramble
Most routers are essentially the same across a series, in this case 32XX.
@latent light Can’t put a price on the ability to create art though.
Sounds like the better buy.
latent light
molten bramble
Unless you’re talking about doing some funky CUDA something. 😁
unique copper
I'll try what i said with my own "hub". To see if my nat type changes lol
lime pollen
latent light
does anyone here approve of fan hubs
molten bramble
Yo momma!
molten bramble
😁
latent light
lol
molten bramble
Mine is a Thermatake one
Controls three fans on the old machine. Easy hack, I don’t see an issue with it so long as the cable management is clean.
unique copper
Thanks ;D
molten bramble
Yeah bud
unique copper
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/1zzfap/what_is_the_easiest_way_to_change_my_nat_type_to/ confusion for me as networking isn't my strong suit lol
latent light
I like silverstone products
prime jasper
Why add a DMZ when you can just open the ports you need.. Stupid..
coarse nimbus
why is disk management acting up on me...and why is one of my hard drives suddenly disappeared from my computer but all the partitions are still viewable in the manager
steep gust
bad sata cable?
coarse nimbus
well I can see it in the device manager
would it show up there if the sata was bad?
prime jasper
know this is months late but I preordered the deluxe edition and I never got the luftlandetruppen set
anyway to get it to show up?
steep gust
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carmine sky
battlefield 5 wont launch anyone know how to help?
prime jasper
check your network settings and or repair game
dry gorge
There was an update yesterday, maybe you need to update.
coarse nimbus
@steep gust so yeah undid the sata cable last night plugged back in then it just sat on the mobo loading screen not booting.. so I unplugged the sata and power and restarted and everything was fine.
Perhaps I'll have to find another sata cable and try it again.
If the HDD went bad it would show black section of the partition instead if the Normal blue? It was basically looking like a drive that just didn't have allocated drives
desert bear
It's the first time that happens to me when I finish a map the game closes...
I think it was for an update of 868.99 Mb 
prime jasper
can i send a picture here?
hello i new to origin and bf1 and i have a slow internet, i just download on my friends house and copied bf1 on my pc , is this expected? Im stuck at 97% after copying the game files or there is something wrong? or my internet just cant keep up, i might download the game overnight. thanks sorry noob here 😄
i think i cannot send a picture
grand maple
Hey guys can anyone help me with the bf games?
Getting lag spikes. Dunno why just the battlefield games aswell.
minor turret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29jTOjBZrw intel 28 core cant hit 5 ghz 
intel about to get BTFO
steep gust
Uh what?
We knew the 28c wasn't going to hit 5ghz on air
They had it hooked up to a fucking chiller
Hell it was a 1hp chiller which means it can (and was) cooling like 1300w
The chiller alone draws 1000w 
violet plank
i like the prices,3k$ for 1000 units,1.7k$ a motherboard 😛
and amd has the 64 core tr in the backhand,not even speaking of epyc
tepid river
@minor turret 2990wx cant even hit 4.1 ghz
what did u expect
5 ghz on 28c
all cores
steep gust
@violet plank Uh 64c EYPC not Threadripper
Big difference
And that 64c CPU wont support windows
Windows already shits itself with 36+ threads
3175X under LN2 is a little strong
violet plank
you're right ofc,i mixed them up
latent light
the Threadripper 2990WX gets held back because of the Windows kernel scheduler bug
Microsoft is currently working on a fix for AMD
this is due to windows not being able to handle the architecture well
on linux, these problems don't show up
even Microsoft uses Linux when they need performance.
steep gust
Its not just the 29900WX
High thread count CPUs as a whole
Its just the 2990WX really suffers from it, the 7980XE doesn't have as many issues
steep gust
Weak
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus You’re running an m.2 SSD and have two HDDs—did you just install the SSD?
coarse nimbus
nah, last night i kinda typed what happened
basically found out that one of my 1tb wasnt on my computer screen
molten bramble
The SSD die?
molten bramble
Oh, the HDD. That was the issue you were mentioning about it disappearing—I think it was you.
coarse nimbus
but its still there in disk manger and hardware manager
molten bramble
Someone asked if you’d checked the cable.
So I have had that happen twice in my lifetime—one was a bad cable, as odd as it may sound, and the drive still showed in the manager. The other was a bad write and somehow overwrote the MBR on the HDD.
Getting on PC, one moment.
Okay, back now.
@coarse nimbus What steps have you taken so far to troubleshoot?
Starting with the physical since the software end is clearly showing the drive exists.
@coarse nimbus Have you swapped the cable out yet?
@coarse nimbus Have you recently updated BIOS firmware at all or any settings related to drives?
coarse nimbus
i did disconnect the sata and then when i tried to plug back in and reboot it sat on the mobo screen it sat on the loading screen not booting so i turned it back off then unplugged it
coarse nimbus
figuring that at 10 30 at night it wasnt time to trouble shoot more
no its just a storage drive
and no havent done a sata cable swap yet, waiting for the new drive to come in at this point, no bios update
afaik tuesday night I shut down everything was fine, ~17 hours later i started it back up on wednesday and after that i noticed a desktop icon was no longer what it should be, went to like the generic missing file type image
and then little bit later i discovered the partitions are missing in the file explorer but they are showing up in blue in the disk mang like they were there just missing a drive assigned to it
but for some reason i was getting an error code about my disk mang program needing to be updated in order for anything to be done with it
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus Hmm... first, have you scanned your drives for malware? Next, I'd swap that cable before anything else. Third, if it's a MBR issue, that could be cryptonite, but not entirely irrecoverable--you might end up with corrupted files or missing files though. There are several utilities available to recover data from drives--ideally ones with a boot sector intact. Also, do you hear the platters spinning at all when you start it up? Any clicking sounds? Grinding? I've recovered data from drives with a secondary motor, but that's a painstaking process, especially for high capacity drives.
steep gust
I meant is your windows bootloader on your SSD or HDD?
coarse nimbus
Ive scanned the remaining drives, nothing seems to be on there. I havent investigated the drive while under power if its spinning at all, would probably have to remove it from the case and just keep it on the desk for that
and isnt the bootloader on the drive with windows installed on it? which would be my m.2
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus Typically yes, though each drive in your machine has some manner of boot sector/table/volume boot record (VBR) that provides information regarding the structure/filesystem/partitioning on the drive.
https://gerardnico.com/data_storage/mbr is a good reference to understand more about that.
Since it's a storage drive and not your system's SSD, then you could have a bad boot sector, VBR, or even a boot sector virus that corrupted something.
@coarse nimbus Did you mention all the partitions were void? As in it's just showing one whole volume and it's not segmented?
coarse nimbus
no, it still had the 4 different partition boxes that I created on it, and they were all showing blue, in the disk management page, just missing the drive letters on the boxes
molten bramble
Weird.
coarse nimbus
fingers crossed the sata cable just went wonky?
molten bramble
Might try something with PW like: https://www.partitionwizard.com/partitionmanager/drive-letter-is-missing-in-windows.html perhaps and see if it's not the cable?
Mid-way through the page it mentions your scenario.
kind ingot
I'm having a problem with getting a Black Screen and OUT OF RANGE error message when I try to load up Battlefield One. Anyone know a fix?
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Might want to check there. ^
forest token
some options - reset settings file, force vsync in your gpu settings, try adjusting monitor refresh rate
kind ingot
how would I do those?
forest token
nvidia control panel (right click desktop) - manage 3d settings, vertical sync. also in nvidia control panel - change resolution section
I don't have amd 😦
forest token
yes
kind ingot
changing vertical sync to on didnt fix it, not sure what to chance the resolution to
how would I reset the setting file?
I've uninstalled and reinstalled the game already
forest token
for the in game settings - find your documents folder using https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001735.htm then go to battlefield v folder and then settings folder, make a backup of PROFSAVE_profile and then delete the original
gotta go now, doing homework
kind ingot
delete the original and then load the game?
forest token
after making a backup, yes
coarse nimbus
yeah it will auto create a new one
kind ingot
put the backup on like the desktop?
coarse nimbus
thats fine
minor turret
@tepid river its AMD, their CPUs dont hit high clockspeeds bruh
steep gust
What
AMD CPUs hit decent enough clockspeed
and good thing clockspeed =/= performance
as seen from the one FX chip that has a turbo of 5.0ghz and a base clock of like 4.7ghz
The 3175X doesn't hit the advertised 5.0ghz without a serious chiller and barely does like 4.1ghz on water
queen radish
Is 8gb ram enough to run the game?
queen radish
It is
Bloody hell
I didn’t know RAM has a big impact on the performance
I thought it’s the CPU that’s important
latent light
BFV is fairly ram dependent
dual channel ram will see up to 50% more performance than single channel
CPU is important too
a CPU with 4 cores and 8 threads or one with 6 cores with 6 threads are minimum if you want nice and consistent performance
Ryzen 5 2600 or i5-8400 (8500 and 8600 too) are great value options
prime jasper
thats not much of an excuse
cinder trout
anyone else get blackscreen when loading a new map?
really getting annoying
winged tapir
dunno where it's ugly? I mean it's a taste but graphics of BF is always a huge plus
limber salmon
meanwhile I play everything on low except mesh
even tho I could easily run ultra
more fps + easier the spot enemies and the game still looks great
queen radish
nah i feel its too much contrast and effects
idk how to explain
it just looks too cosmetic for me
rugged fractal
might be an microsoft visual c++ redistributable 2015 if youre on pc
Had myself this issue , it look been fixed now
tepid river
Bf 4 looks like a pixelized mess
jaunty sonnet
Is anyone else playing BFV with a GTX 1050 2GB? If so what's your performance like? Mine is good but get lag every now an then.
queen radish
Whats your cpu?
storm osprey
thats pretty old
even though your gpu isnt exactly good, that cpu isnt helping either
jaunty sonnet
Would the i7 be better
jaunty sonnet
found one on ebay for £100
storm osprey
thats not cheap
minor turret
https://imgur.com/a/uRMDqh8 is my card rip or is this some thermal grease?
3rd pic is from backplate and that had no thermal pads
steep gust
is that from water?
but yeah that shouldn't be there
and its on SMDs and some mosfets
queen radish
I couldn’t run bf1 on i5-7300hq and u can run bf5 on i5 2400 @jaunty sonnet
How
Actually i think that cpu is better than 7300hq
covert heron
no telling what that is but its safe to wipe it off wi th a lint free cloth and some rubbing alcohol
isopropyl alcohol in case its not called rubbing alcohol in EU
latent light
i5-2400 can run BFV but the thing is, the frametimes would be shit
would probably see frametimes spikes to 200ms several times a game
which is a pretty unacceptable amount of stutter
Also would probably see occasional crashes
jaunty sonnet
@storm osprey It is
latent light
You should be able to find a 2600K or 2700K for $50 used
minor turret
i have 20-40 ms spikes with 3400 ram/r5 2600 4.25ghz
i wonder how bad a 4 core would be
jaunty sonnet
@storm osprey But my motherbaord only supports upto i7 2700K
storm osprey
right, youre in a weird spot imo
nothing of yours is really good for bfv
getting a 2700k will help, but i doubt by much
keen forge
My internet speed has effectively doubled since yesterday but I've heard nothing from my provider... I mean i'm not complaining, just surprised
pallid silo
Trying to do a windows update and its saying we couldn't connect to the update service
keen forge
pallid silo
Diddnt work
latent light
I highly doubt that that's what the reference Navi cards will look like
rose gold finish and blue LEDs
since when does AMD use anything other than red
storm osprey
well, if we are talking about dbz aura coloration, this could call for it
latent light
I think Navi chips are made by TSMC so likely a decent amount of stock at launch
they normally use GlobalFoundries for GPUs
minor turret
yeah but its TSMC 7 nm
question is whether theres enough fab to go around for everything
cpu, gpu, phones
and navi isnt the high end of gpu
rugged summit
Well rip my pc
keen forge
Why @rugged summit?
cinder trout
Hey guys my mate is having an issue where he cant join any squad he is getting error:2 and gets kicked instantly from servers says about bandwidth and latency, anyone know whats up? (PC)
keen forge
What’s his internet quality @cinder trout?
slate rivet
host unreachable.. ping the ip 4 packets sent 4 received by can't hit the landing page why?
arp -a doesn't even list the ip address
pallid silo
I cant download windows updates :/
pallid idol
I have an old cpu (i7 920@3.4ghz), and a 1060gtx, for best performance is better vsync on or off?
lofty light
@pallid idol VSYNC is something that will give faster response time if you turn it off, but you'll have screen tearing if you don't have GSYNC on your monitor
prime jasper
@pallid silo Getting errors constantly? Go to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution and delete those folders. Should fix the problem
pallid silo
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/many-windows-10-users-unable-to-connect-to-windows-update-service/ just found this :p @prime jasper
lofty light
Just reformat 😉
prime jasper
rugged summit
@keen forge ny pc turn off and not coming back up
keen forge
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
rugged summit
I had a fan connectwd just to the psu and noting slse and its not coming on
keen forge
FR though, any mobo lights?
rugged summit
Yea luat the one that show stabdby power
keen forge
Fan spin?
rugged summit
Nope
The warning lights on the mobo arnt lit up that tells u if its a cpu ram error so im thinking its psu hopefully
keen forge
Take everything out of the mobo and just try and get it to post
GPU, drives, CPU, fans, RAM
rugged summit
Cas i have a fan in my pc that just connected to the psu and nothing else and it dont even turn on
My psu is like 5+ years old if im right
steep gust
@lofty light I literally never use vsync and don't have some form of adaptive sync and never experience screen tearing
You just need the hardware to keep up with your monitor
gentle veldt
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below vc general
@quaint topaz @north crow
past coral
@quaint topaz i hope dice will incrase the graphic content for potatos pc 
for playing white my 2 gb graphic card white no lag same to battlefield ....
steep gust
and how do they do that?
latent light
@steep gust MSI voids the warranty if you remove their coolers
has the sticker on the screw
storm osprey
i saw a video that said thats illegal
steep gust
@latent light That isn't fully legal
but once you open the GPU its up to you to prove you didn't damage it
latent light
how would you prove that in court
oof
It means that actions taken by then end user to obtain a 3rd party repair or service that the OEM does not provide for free under their warranty can not void the warranty unless they can prove the 3rd party repair or service caused the problem stated in the warranty claim.
Upgrading the thermal paste would not affect the voltage controller for instance. If the GPU died from overheating and it has aftermarket thermal paste or the cooler was reinstalled incorrectly, then they can deny. If it died because one of the mosfets shorted and drove 12V into the core, it doesn’t matter if it had a liquid block on it, they would be responsible to replace under warranty.
Warranty stickers are them being lazy and/or cost savings in so far as having an easy out to deny service.
If dude could send it to Gigabyte and ask them to upgrade or replace the thermal paste and they did that service for free, then sure they could deny it because he decided to do it himself.
steep gust
My GPU has a tamper sticker
but I pretty sure I can remove it with a razor
Considering its literally on one screw and isn't flush
steep gust
Its a tamper sticker legally
latent light
so if I take it apart without fucking something up I should be ok
I don't want to take it apart because the thermal pads will probably rip apart
I don't have extra thermal pads lol
steep gust
They shouldn't if you don't tear the cooler off
I should repaste my GPU to get an ez 12mhz
Since it sits at like 70C under load
because 40% fans
latent light
gigabyte put only 3 heatpipes on my rx 580 which is a 185w card lol
jaunty sonnet
What's the average CPU temp while playing BFV? Im getting 66
covert heron
that depends on a ton of things
storm osprey
most cpus under load i would imagine range from 60-80
pearl ledge
guys anybody here have an intel i5 8th gen cpu my mouse lags when i hit 100% ~ 90% is this a bug with intel cpus ?
pearl ledge
oh looks like i have to unpark my cores they were parked for some reason
nova badge
@covert heron vodka cooling
jaunty sonnet
Oki doki, getting the i7 3770K soon anyway
latent light
what do you have right now
latent light
@jaunty sonnet if you have an i5-2400, i7-3770K isn't supported on your motherboard
jaunty sonnet
I know, getting a new mobo
storm osprey
...
latent light
might as well get something new
jaunty sonnet
What would you recommend?
latent light
tbh you could get a i7-2600K or a 2700K and it won't be different to a 3770K
a 2600K can overclock to at least 4.5 GHz
storm osprey
if you dont want to get new ram, whatever is the newest platform that supports ddr3
storm osprey
then 4th gen is ddr3
but still, idk if these are "worth it"
idk what you are trying to do, what you have, whats your budget, and whats available
jaunty sonnet
I found the i7-3770K for around £100
latent light
can you find a supported motherboard?
jaunty sonnet
Yeah
latent light
1050 will do 60 fps at a mix of low/medium settings
jaunty sonnet
I have put everything on low
molten bramble
😮
latent light
man those prices are awful lol
molten bramble
I know right?!
storm osprey
@jaunty sonnet what are 4790 (k) going for with mb there?
molten bramble
I mean, who is dropping $1.5K on a 2080Ti?
jaunty sonnet
Between 80 - 150 @storm osprey
latent light
a lot of the cheap ones are bids
jaunty sonnet
Bear in mind i will need a new mobo
molten bramble
I have a 1050Ti, Runs the game just fine.
jaunty sonnet
What CPU? @molten bramble
storm osprey
well if a 4790 and mb is in your budget and not THAT much more expensive than the 3770k and mb i would get that
molten bramble
i7-8700K
jaunty sonnet
@storm osprey I will look around cheers mate
latent light
3770K can overclock and get better performance than a 4790
molten bramble
I’m real happy with the MSI MEG Z390 ACE @jaunty sonnet
latent light
look for a 3770K, 4770K, and 4790K, these 3 CPUs are your best options to buy used
jaunty sonnet
@latent light 👍
molten bramble
BRB
latent light
those 3 can reach 4.5 GHz
storm osprey
should probably just tell us your options and their prices with mbs as well
jaunty sonnet
My specs are as follows: i5 2400 3.1GHz, DQ67SW MOBO, GTX 1050 2GB, 16GB DDR3 BUDGET = £150 - £200
Wanting a new CPU
storm osprey
right, you should tell us what you can buy in your region and for what prices
so we can help narrow down good deals and what not
covert heron
3770k released q2 2002 so its like 7 years old at this point
i still have one in my old media server
storm osprey
2002?
storm osprey
tyo?
covert heron
i blame my shit work keyboard lol
storm osprey
covert heron
i cant type on this fkin laptop lookin ass keyboard
jaunty sonnet
@storm osprey Can you help me please? lol
covert heron
this is that chiclet style with the separate keys its aawful
storm osprey
efff that
@jaunty sonnet ill help, and others will as well, but im not gonna personally looks through the for sales ads in your region
do you even use craigslist there?
covert heron
just for reference what does an 8700k retail for in your location?
just so i have price reference
jaunty sonnet
Never heard of it
jaunty sonnet
@covert heron About £400
covert heron
yeah in your budget range id be looking for used probably
not sure where you could get a new 3770k anyway
like here in 2012 a new 3770k was like $350ish or less
jaunty sonnet
Would like a second hand one not new
covert heron
definitely would be a pretty big upgrade from that i5 2400
jaunty sonnet
Deffo
covert heron
my 3770k was a really good overclocker, easily hit 4.8 on air with barely any additional voltage
kinda ran into wall at 4.9 though and needed a lot more
but yeah id say if you can get it for your budget of ~200 including mobo that isn't a horrible deal
jaunty sonnet
Don't know how to overlock though, is it easy?
covert heron
its reasonably straight forward
it takes a bit of time to make sure its stable and all that
jaunty sonnet
Ah right
covert heron
but its basically bumping up clock til it has issues, bumping up V until it stops and then repeating this til you hit the thermal limit
you can find guides specific to your cpu which w ould be a good starting place
but 3770ks generally overclocked really well based on the small sample size of all my friends who had them
it was a monster of a cpu, i literally had 0 reason to upgrade until this 8700k came out and there was finally a 6 core chip in that price range
molten bramble
^ same, I had a Q9650 prior to the 8700K that OC’d the crap out of, but hands down this CPU is way better.
Not even in the same dimension.
covert heron
like prior to 2012 you saw pretty big increases each generation
but like 3770k -> 4k series -> 6k series -> 7k series was very marginal improvements
especially if you had a 3770k that OCd well
like maybe 30% improvement over all those generations
definitely not enough to justify a whole new build
storm osprey
i have a 4790, at 1440p, i still get 100+ fps in just about everything with mixed settings
still waiting to upgrade
covert heron
i wanted to upgrade since like the 6700k came out but i just couldnt justify it
never had a pc last like 7 years before with only gpu upgrades
i guess i only got 6 out of it since i built this other one last year
storm osprey
my first pc so im lucky
latent light
@molten bramble 8700K paired with a 1050 Ti is a bit weird
you plan on getting a GPU upgrade?
molten bramble
The 1050Ti is a holdover from@the prior build, eventually it will be the secondary card and I’ll be picking up a better one later on. Gotta buy some stuff for the kids, priority. 😊
latent light
lol
molten bramble
Will be bumping up the memory before I buy a new card though. For now, it does just what I need.
latent light
only have 8GB?
molten bramble
... but why though?
@latent light 16Gb, I’ll be looking for a good deal on 32-64Gb arena.
latent light
16GB is far plenty if you play games
minor turret
maybe he plays civilization
storm osprey
or, with his specs hes doing work stuff, but games on the side
steep gust
@molten bramble DDR5 is coming soonTM
So spending more than $150-200 on DDR4 isnt recommended
So you can get a good 2x8 kit or a meh 4x8
storm osprey
but will cpus support it?!
molten bramble
I’ll be on the lookout for it.
steep gust
DDR5 requires a new IMC
molten bramble
And yes, the PC is used for much more than gaming. However, a game like Cities : Skylines relies heavily on memory when using custom assets.
I do play Civ 5 / 6, but on the Mac.
steep gust
Even heavily modded it shouldn't be pulling more than 10-12GB
molten bramble
Premiere can be a resource hog for editing/encoding
steep gust
Which reminds me I have an extra 2x8 kit of DDR4 in my desk
It's even B-Die
Just not RGB
molten bramble
@steep gust Depends on the detail, but I try to find assets that are low tri count by default.
steep gust
More details will crush your GPU
storm osprey
EXTRA 2x8?
molten bramble
GPU is running solid surprisingly, even on the previous build, but the memory was a massive bottleneck on it.
It’s nice to stretch the legs with this one.
steep gust
@storm osprey yes extra
molten bramble
Sorry, on mobile.
steep gust
I have a 2x8 kit of Hynix CJR right now because RGB
The 2x8 kit of B-Die is black / red
molten bramble
I don’t get the attraction to RGB, but to each their own. I try to put as little of that in my builds as possible.
steep gust
I bought the black/ red kit when prices were mildly hot
storm osprey
i like SOME rgb
storm osprey
mouse, keeb and aura inside
molten bramble
I only have RGB fans, and that’s enough for me. I don’t like something distracting my eyes from what I am trying to focus on, especially if working with Photoshop.
steep gust
I paid $170 for the black / red kit (3000 16-16-16-36)
I paid $140 for a G Skill RGB kit that is rated for 3600 16-18-18-38
I will make nothing selling my extra kit
So if I ever need 32GB I can
*before I upgrade to a maximus XI Apex or Z390 dark
molten bramble
I’m probably going to just get another pair of the current Corsair 3200 x16Gb and stick to 32Gb for now.
molten bramble
Unless I can find a good deal on 2x DIMMs @ 32Gb
steep gust
And I wouldn't recommend 3 sticks on a dual channel board
molten bramble
Staying away from Crucial, had so many issues with the brand in recent years.
steep gust
Your IMC shits itself then
molten bramble
Corsair has been on the last two builds
steep gust
Crucial = micron boyo
So you literally have an issue with the physical IC manufacturer
Which cuts you out about 1/3 of all DDR4
molten bramble
Dunno, but got three bad batches in ten years from them.
steep gust
RAM has lifetime warranties 
molten bramble
Warranty isn’t going to compensate me for downtime. 😁
steep gust
Generally RAM issues are not the actual stick going bad
molten bramble
I’m taking my time though, not in a rush. I’ll find the deal that works.
steep gust
At least for DDR4 / DDR3
I heard of people having DDR2 kits randomly die at 'safe' voltages (max daily when overclocking)
molten bramble
DDR4 seems much more stable than the DDR2 on the last build.
steep gust
Tech has matured a lot
molten bramble
Indeed
molten bramble
Well, the board can handle it and the i9, but I’ll save that for now.
steep gust
Since they have to make a new IMC
Intel "hold my 10nm yields"
Intel's IMC is rock solid right now
They fuck up that with DDR5 and big oof
molten bramble
I haven’t even OC’d the 8700K yet, it’s been fast as shit compared to the last build.
steep gust
8700k needs a delid to overclock properly
molten bramble
I’ve considered it.
steep gust
I would recommend it eventually
With a tool the only risk is user error
*a good tool
molten bramble
Well, one I use for system, want one more for the scratch and get it off the storage platter.
molten bramble
Looking at maybe picking up an m.2 instead, and running the system from there/
steep gust
M.2 SATA over NVMe
molten bramble
Then use the other for the scratch.
steep gust
But are you transferring from a drive that supports NVMe speeds?
USB 3.1 is nowhere near close enough
molten bramble
If I am batch processing and the transferring, yes.
steep gust
Still generally not worth the cost to consumers tbh
Waiting an extra 15-30 seconds never killed someone
molten bramble
Workflows can be setup that automates the process, so I can go through a load of up-to-1Gb files x 300 in a session.
steep gust
See 1Gb files arent large enough to validate NVMe
molten bramble
Import is the longest bit of it, but USB3 handles it a lot better than previous.
steep gust
It doesn't have enough time to flex itself
molten bramble
If it’s video, that’s a much different scenario.
I tend to future proof builds though, never know what new massive something to overwhelm the machine is around the corner.
steep gust
SATA 4 when
molten bramble
I’d rather have something and not need it than vice versus.
steep gust
PCIe 4.0 is coming
molten bramble
Stupid autocorrect.
steep gust
PCIe 4.0 will do nothing for GPU / multi GPU tho
x8 vs x16 on GPUs ks literally nothing
Even for multi gpu
molten bramble
Maybe benefit for modeling using say titans or something? I know some data scientists here doing that.
More lanes seem to make them happier.
National Science Foundation does that kind of stuff, but I think they’ve got a farm for it.
steep gust
Very few GPUs can saturate x8
And the companies buying GPUs with workloads that can, can afford server CPUs with tons of lanes
There are 32x slots for a reason
molten bramble
Fair enough
It’s freezing in the flat right now, don’t think Nest is working properly. Sucker is jumped up to 80 and it feels like 60. 🤔
steep gust
For consumers the only advantage of PCIe 4.0 is faster storage
Which I'm not complaining
molten bramble
Definitely something weird, just turned this sucker up to 90 and nothing. Reads 74... wtf
Outside is 22...
molten bramble
Yeah, it was 9 last night here.
Snowed all day today.
When I lived in South Dakota, it’s was -22 all the time in winter, felt like -50.
steep gust
0F and -25F feel the same to me
It hit a point of cold is cold
Just like hot is hot
molten bramble
The wind was the brutal piece to it.
Well, I got it working, but manly had to do it instead of the app.
latent light
Going to go back to old BIOS, this one won't even let my 2666 MHz ram at its rated timings of 15-15-15-35
molten bramble
*manually
latent light
Gigabyte sucks ass
latent light
they have the worst low end boards
steep gust
Have you tried enabling XMP?
latent light
yeah, wouldn't even boot
it reset itself 3 times then put itself to 2133 mhz
so I manually set it to 2666
steep gust
Set VCCIO / VCCSA to 1.15v
Also forcing your rated speeds is not how you fix memory issues
latent light
this motherboard doesn't let me change that
no option to enable it manually
hell this board doesn't even let me set a voltage for anything, have to use dynamic voltage
molten bramble
👀
latent light
I have a dynamic offset for the memory for +0.060v
molten bramble
Thing made of cardboard and solder? 😂
steep gust
You should have access to VCCIO / VCCSA
latent light
it's a $100 board but I got it on sale for $80
molten bramble
Ah
latent light
B350
minor turret
Grim is on amd
latent light
I can overclock I just can't set a conservative voltage
minor turret
its absolute cancer and will take forever to tweak out
minor turret
@latent light Used typhoon burner to find out what ram you have?
steep gust
Gigglebyte happens to be super inconsistent
latent light
it's G Skill RipJaws V
minor turret
as in what form of hynix/samsung/etc?
steep gust
He doesn't have access to jackshit for memory settings
steep gust
Knowing the IC will do very little
latent light
it's Samsung B-die
steep gust
Big doubt
latent light
I checked it
steep gust
How?
steep gust
Post the thaiphoon burner screenshot
M8 if he doesnt have access to vdimm he isn't going to overclocking much
minor turret
yeah rip
latent light
I'm just going back to to the prvious BIOs version
this one is bugged
the one I am using is version F23, I had F22 before and it was fine
minor turret
his board has everything needed to OC except maybe VRMs+heatsinks
steep gust
Expect the things needed for overclocking
minor turret
can work around it with 6 core and/or add some DIY alu heatsink + fan
steep gust
It's also B350 instead of X370
So the settings he has access to are slim
molten bramble
molten bramble
😂
latent light
yeah I can't overclock specific things, I can only set dynamic voltages
minor turret
gen 1 ryzen had same boards from 50 usd to 130 usd
steep gust
Good B350 is fine for overclocking
minor turret
as in same pcb
latent light
my 1600 is running at 3.8 GHz, peaks at 1.36v
steep gust
Budget as shit B350 means very little settings
coarse nimbus
@molten bramble so...i got another sata cable and the drive is working again 👀
steep gust
PCB also means nothing
VRMs can differ, settings can differ, BIOS support can differ, etc
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus Yay!!!
coarse nimbus
i havent bothered doing this until today since I got a replacement hdd in
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus It happens man, but at least it was a cheap/easy fix
coarse nimbus
now i just need to come up with another sata cable to xfer the shit off this one onto the new drive
also
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus I always start there for something like that.
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus not enough space on the other drive hmm?
minor turret
i ran one of those until better memory support from official bios came out
coarse nimbus
nah theres enough space, just comtemplating do i want to just swap in a new one now...or wait, i mean it is from clear back in 2014... yikes
minor turret
with x470-f strix
latent light
B450-F is better than a lot of X370 and X470 boards
steep gust
If you want to overclock you go Intel anyways
Intel gives you access to literally everything and expects you to not break your shit
molten bramble
@coarse nimbus I mean, judgement call. I’ve got drives older than that still chugging away on a NAS.
minor turret
thats a lie, memory OC for ryzen is essential and pretty cancer unless you pay iron price for proper binned b-die
steep gust
No?
steep gust
You get little after 3000-3200 on both Intel and AMD for gaming
minor turret
not if you find the proper kit, and i had a significant performance boost from 3200 to 3533
admittedly with 16-18 timings but still
on both
latent light
the difference between 3200 and 3533 is maybe 1-2% in games lol
minor turret
https://imgur.com/a/na6vV4m i had trash tier b-die that was cheapest ram kit on sale
no its more significant if you want 144+ fps gameplay
id argue its more around 5-10% in select titles
steep gust
It's a good lesson on just because its B-Die doesnt mean its good
Rzyen as a whole has solid memory support now and you can easily buy a 3600mhz 16-18-18-38 CJR kit and with some tweaking get it to run
prime jasper
@latent light for amd the ram is absolutely king for high hz
steep gust
Psycho go kill your 2080ti
latent light
will probably die on it's own in a few months
tbh only issues with 2080 Tis are the ones that have the reference PCB
all of these use the reference PCB
steep gust
Psycho runs chillers for daily subzero
I don't give him very long until some "oh shit" happens
latent light
pallid silo
can i leave my pc in sleep mode and download steam games?
unborn cliff
@pallid silo if u just leave it there with the screen turned off and such.
i dont think itl stop
otherwise tjeck ur windows settings, just make it just sleep on auto
vernal spire
sleep mode pauses everything but saves it in your RAM i think
or something like that
dont use sleep mode for downloading anything
i learned it the hard way
frosty slate
Girlfriend just got Origin Access to try the 10hour trial of BF V, but when she logs in it says "Missing Online Access" so cant play multiplayer. Tried talking to support but its going nowhere.
Anyone know of a fix?
fiery quiver
Can anyone help me
bleak patrol
women cant play video games @frosty slate
frosty slate
good for you
jaunty sonnet
@bleak patrol #sexist
bleak patrol
thats the point dummy
steep gust
@molten bramble those aren't amazing prices
molten bramble
Hence the posts.
molten bramble
I dunno, it sort of grows on you as you look at it up close.
They’re running some shit multiplexer in the back which makes the presentation less than spectacular.
quaint topaz
Right now on amazon you can get a 500gb ssd for like $50
sonic osprey
I think I paid like 270e for 1tb m.2 NVMe
violet plank
it's the same card 😛
violet plank
just a rebrand with tiny higher clocking
quaint topaz
Crucial
latent light
undervolted my 580, -50mV on the core and -25mV on the memory
quaint topaz
@molten coral
latent light
Crucial are best value
1TB Crucial MX500 only $135 and same speed as a Samsung 860 EVO
molten coral
Every SSD I own is samsung so i'll just stay with it.
latent light
^
molten coral
¯_(ツ)_/¯
latent light
never stick to the same company, go with the product that suits you and has the best value
steep gust
Pretty much every drive can saturate SATA 3
molten coral
I tend to stay with one brand if I like it and i'll just keep doing it.
steep gust
So the only thing you possibly could get with samsung is write endurance
But you hit a point of diminishing returns with write endurance. Who cares if its 50TB or 100TB when you only write 10TB across the entire lifespan of the drive?
And that attitude is why Asus got away with a shitty ass Z390 lineup and people still pay a goddamn premium for it
latent light
Asus has a lot of fans
@steep gust Gigabyte has the best Z390, who else has good Z390 boards?
MSI?
ASRock?
steep gust
EVGA currently has the best
latent light
oof
steep gust
With the Z390 Dark
molten bramble
@sonic osprey how much did you pay for the display?
steep gust
The Maximus XI Apex is released in Europe so we will see how it goes up against the Z390 Dark
But most people dont need an XOC motherboard and gigabyte has most of the lineup covered
Asus motherboards aren't bad, they just aren't worth the premium charged and with the false advertising
4 phase VRM ran in parallel =/= twin 8 phase
latent light
what's better 4+3 or 5+2
molten coral
Tbh, I don't really care if I pay a bit more for a brand I trust. It's the same with everything else, like people buying gillette shaving blades above some chinese knock off. It's just because they trust the brand and know how good the quality is.
molten bramble
@molten coral Same, my SSDs have all been Samsung. I had a Crucial one, and it completely fritzed—lost a lot of data, won’t buy the brand again for SSDs.
@latent light I have a Z390 MSI, solid.
keen forge
I bought a kingston one because it was cheap on amazon, hasn't failed me yet
latent light
Crucial are the best for value atm
molten coral
My first SSD was from kingston died in a couple of months.
keen forge
oof
latent light
any SSD has the possibility of being defective
whether it's samsung, crucial, kingston, WD
minor turret
2152 mhz boost clock on gtx 1070 - is my gtx a golden sample?
molten coral
True but it just gives a bad impression
minor turret
just googled average 1070 overclocks
keen forge
tbf my hard drive is dying and I wanted to migrate windows to an SSD
latent light
hard drives last longer than SSDs
keen forge
Not this one
sonic osprey
@molten bramble bought it like a year ago, for about 1100
molten bramble
Ouch
molten coral
My 4TB HDD is in pretty bad shape as well tbh but I don't really care if it dies at this point. Nothing of value will be lost. Just a lot of movies and some games.
keen forge
Yeah I'd only lose games and a couple minor programs if mine died
molten coral
I've 2,5TB in SSD, I only have my HDD because I had one laying around 
sonic osprey
@molten bramble yea, it was not cheap when it first came out :D
molten coral
I've been tempted to get the 43'' for a while now
molten bramble
I don’t use the SSDs for storage, it was a project edit and set me back two weeks. Luckily I lost no source, just the edit collection, project, effects, etc.. I never store both together.
Anyone still running RAID setups?
molten bramble
Think the 1050Ti can push 144Hz?
latent light
minimal settings
molten coral
sonic osprey
depends on the game
molten bramble
I have never looked.
latent light
720p
sonic osprey
not in bfv for sure :P
keen forge
luftrausers all lowest
latent light
I think a 1050 Ti will do 80-100 fps on the lowest settings on BFV
molten bramble
Thinking of getting the display first and then a new card.
Prep peripheral before the internal.
keen forge
What card?
molten coral
I've a 34'' ultrawide at the moment and a 27'' stacked on each other. If i'm gonna get the 43'' super ultrawide i'll be removing the 27'' one and stack the 43'' and 34''
steep gust
@minor turret Actually stable?
minor turret
stable in valley bench and bfv
obsidian scarab
Should I use dolby or dts for virtual surround?
sonic osprey
I wanna get 240hz 21:9 monitor as my main gaming monitor and use this 49" only for productivity
steep gust
Yeah it should be pulling way more
obsidian scarab
One thing I've noticed tho is that dolby has a more clean sound
steep gust
Yeah because you increased the power limit
But I highly doubt you will hold 2150mhz on air
minor turret
its a 1070 strix OC edition at 100% fan speed when i game :D
stays around 40-48 celsius
minor turret
dont notice it during gaming and i like the extra 1-2% fps lel
could probably easily maintain 2100-2130 with a lot lower rpm
cosmic star
what u think about dx12
minor turret
not recommended for bfv unless you need to disable future frame rendering
steep gust
DX12 gets me better performance
aka you should do a quick test
and not listen to people when it comes to something that differs GPU to GPU
latent light
100% fan speed can kill a fan can't it
steep gust
Given like 10,000 hours
minor turret
fans dont cost that much and 10 000 hours of gaming is a lot
@steep gust But did you test to see if the fps dips are greater than with dx11?
because that was the killer for me
latent light
what about 0.1% low
steep gust
I didn't record my FPS
Because
A. No software installed to do so
B. Finding software to do so is a pain in the ass if I also want 1% and 0.1%
minor turret
msi afterburner does it automaticly and shows a nice ongoing diagram
also shows frametime spikes
steep gust
Logging =/= showing
I also haven't touched MSI Afterburner in awhile since I like using the fan headers on my GPU and MSI Afterburner doesn't support them for some reason
minor turret
ye same for my strix, so i use two different programs depending on need
quasi sparrow
need mouse suggestions pls
latent light
Razer Deathadder, Logitech G502, SteelSeries Rival 600, Corsair M65
quasi sparrow
something lighter
i wanna go full relaaa meme with the G Pro Wireless but it's so pricey
latent light
you want a lightweight mouse?
quasi sparrow
hmmmm Logitech G Pro looks tempting
latent light
yeah that one is good
elfin scroll
Why does Dual channel provide a lot more FPS than single channel?
quartz whale
https://youtu.be/vh420a7dCM0 any idea on what this could be ? I’ve reseated the ram and everything
I’m thinking a power supply issue
elfin scroll
I've got 16GB ram in one slot, now i regret not getting 2x8 GB. But again, in future this could be more helpful.
latent light
@elfin scroll you wanna see a comparison video between single and dual channel for BFV?
it's a huge difference
like 50% higher performance lol
elfin scroll
Why does it impact the FPS though?
latent light
because ram speed is important and having 1 stick cuts that speed in half
based on that video, 1x8GB gets 150 fps average and 2x4GB get 225 fps average
single channel will also see more stutter
elfin scroll
rip
elfin scroll
Im guessing its only CPU based games which see the difference
will 4x4 have more performance than 2x8?
latent light
about equal
4x4 is still dual channel
you can only get quad channel with Threadripper and Xeon
elfin scroll
so, to equal my performance i should get one more slot of 16gb ram?
elfin scroll
alright
latent light
and put it in the right slot
elfin scroll
maybe if Im having issues with any games with FPS i'll think of upgrading it
quasi sparrow
dual channel is a must nowadays
elfin scroll
thanks for the help
quasi sparrow
hype for my Logitech G305 coming in
light, wireless, gud battery life yes pls
heard you can get it down to ~80g
steep gust
@latent light X299 has quad channel
@elfin scroll 4x4 will perform slightly worse than 2x8
Having single channel doesn't cut the speed of the RAM in half, it cuts the bandwidth in half
There is a difference :^)
fair sage
don't forget the hedt cpu's like the 5960x doing quad channel too 😛
@steep gust 4x 8 works just fine tho 😄
minor turret
not on dual channel setups, especially amd
fair sage
@minor turret well x99 is a quad channel platform so 😄
elfin scroll
Maybe one day I'll get another 16 slot so I get my dual channel
latent light
Quad channel is highly recommended on threadripper