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keen forge
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Comes with a wraith and all

latent light
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8370 is probably your best budget option now

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yeah comes with a great stock cooler

storm osprey
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WITH wraith

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oooo

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id jump on that for that price

keen forge
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8350 is £50 more

storm osprey
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tf?

trail cypress
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@keen forge thanks bud.

keen forge
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But £60 for a wraith and 8370 is a pretty sexy deal

latent light
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8350 stock is really low, there's a lot more 8370s out there

minor turret
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is 9350 etc a different socket?

latent light
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9370 tdp is 220w

keen forge
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Plus it's £160

latent light
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8370 is 125w

keen forge
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More than a 1600

storm osprey
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just a high bin high oc 8350 really

keen forge
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£20 less than I paid for my 1800x

minor turret
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bit like how 4970k is more expensive than new CPUs used

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DDR3 platform premium

storm osprey
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low inv

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"rare"

minor turret
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4770k/4790k = 300-350 usd in norway when i checked

trail cypress
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Thanks guys for the help 😃

keen forge
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4790k is a solid CPU

latent light
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higher multicore speed will go a long way

storm osprey
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especially for bfv

latent light
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yep

minor turret
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4790k is solid but at this point its better going for ddr4 rig

keen forge
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Plus it's cheaper than an fx-6350 by $30 LUL

steep gust
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userbenchmark is a shit benchmark

latent light
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it works

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🤷

minor turret
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synthetic benchmarks are okay, just dont rely on game fps numbers

keen forge
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Yeah salty, if buying, ddr4 rig is better for sure, but I have friends who haven't upgraded their 47/49xx kfor yonks, solid CPUs

steep gust
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no userbenchmark is a trash comparison site as a whole

storm osprey
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@trail cypress my friend says he gets 60-80 fps with his pc, 6300, 16gb, 1050ti everything off/low

steep gust
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You want to compare two CPUs on the same architect? Use Cinebench

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but because userbenchmark doesn't show overclocking, or task manager priority, or bloatware, or anything its garbage for actual comparisons

minor turret
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pretty sure i just read a thread ranting about how cinebench uses 256 FPUs in a retarded manner that is not relevant for real life usage

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it doesnt even represent AVX properly

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so that aint perfect either

steep gust
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You don't need real life usage comparisons

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You want raw performance numbers

pallid silo
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is it safe to overclock your monitor

storm osprey
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i see it often, but the gains arent worth it imo

covert heron
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^

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most monitors only overclock from like 60 to 75hz

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or somethign small like that

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its marginal improvement at best

old gazelle
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hey guys

molten bramble
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Hi

storm osprey
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hellooo

timid abyss
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So i on PC now, can I get my BFV from PS4 on PC now that I have one, Or do I have to get a new PC copy?

storm osprey
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new copy

timid abyss
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Dang,that sucks

storm osprey
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i mean, you could try to get dice to give you a code

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but i reallllllyyyy doubt they will

timid abyss
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I dont think I will be that lucky io

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imo*

molten bramble
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Yeah, have to pick up a new copy. I have it on XB1 myself and PC.

timid abyss
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What should I do? Ask a member of dice for compensation, because I don't have the money

storm osprey
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i mean, you can try, but i really really really doubt youre gonna get anywhere

timid abyss
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Okay

keen forge
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That’s a weird system, is there no origin on Xbox/ps?

storm osprey
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nopes

keen forge
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Huh

keen forge
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Lol

storm osprey
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BAHAH

minor turret
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4k OLED laptop panel

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rip any battery life

steep gust
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OLED is more efficient than a standard display FeelsThinkMan

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Since you don't have to power black

minor turret
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but still MOAR POWAH

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to drive 4k

molten bramble
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That is the new Radeon card? That's ridiculous. Looks like the risers we had back in the friggin' 80s/90s.

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Please tell me that's a fake.

keen forge
molten bramble
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I think only my case could probably hold something that gargantuan LOL.

keen forge
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They photoshopped some of the fans out, otherwise it would just look silly

minor turret
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since better discord is no longer in accordance to ToS

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any way to remove the blocked user messages?

molten bramble
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Remove blocked user messages? You mean you can't delete them from the client-side?

steep gust
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Its a fake

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he means the "blocked messages" notifications

minor turret
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ye

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i dont understand why discord doesnt give option to remove that when it pollutes chat

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figured it out, need bandagedBD to apply a custom CSS code

latent light
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FreeSync range 40hz-144hz

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I'd prefer 1440p on a 27" monitor though

maiden kayak
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Question for you dudes

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ANyone else having trouble with VOIP not coming through the right sound output?

pallid silo
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My case USB header dont fit into my motherboard b350 tomahawk msi and corsair carbide 300r is there anyway to fix it

molten bramble
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@maiden kayak Nope, just Discord or other clients?

latent light
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USB header not fitting into the USB connector slot?

molten bramble
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Sounds like the old jumper head style, the white one.

latent light
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if only there was a X470 board like this

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white Chag

maiden kayak
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@molten bramble in BFV

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My VOIP is set up correctly in BFV and Origin

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But it still uses the wrong output

molten bramble
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Oh, never had that issue.

foggy shadow
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@maiden kayak Didn't Nvidia added their own audio input/output in the sounds settings? Like in the latest patch or something. Idk what the correct term is, drivers? Could've screwed up something?

steep gust
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displayport doesn't support audio

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I'm sure Nvidia control panel has had audio settings for a long time due to HDMI, but it shouldn't do anything if you well

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don't use hdmi

elfin scroll
flint locust
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Are you on the latest driver?

elfin scroll
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Yes

flint locust
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Probably should clean install drivers

elfin scroll
latent light
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oh please god no

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no

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no

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noooooooooooooo

lime pollen
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???

latent light
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ray tracing tech is too expensive for consoles even by 2020-2021 standards

steep gust
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ray tracing is too expensive for PCs

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RTX =/= actual ray tracing

latent light
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no way this would be possible

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SSD storage on next gen consoles would be nice

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but NVMe

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come on

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plus why the hell would a console need an 8-core Zen 2 cpu

steep gust
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NVMe is wasted on consumer PCs anyways

latent light
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I mean if that was true, it would be really impressive

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RTX on = lower fps = more time to appreciate the reflections

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it just works

unkempt mirage
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Alright, so im going to be buying a pc soon and i would like to know if this pc can run bf1 and v, here are the main specs
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4Ghz
Ram: 16GB of ddr4-2666 ram
Video Card: AMD Radeon RX 580 4gb (vr ready, dont know if thats important)
Mobo: MSI X470 GAMING PLUS Gb LAN, USB 3.1 (4 Rear, 6 Front),
PSU: 600 Watt standard 80 plus gold
OS: Windows 10

steep gust
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I would spent like $20 more and get the RX580 8GB

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and get a better psu

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other than that looks fine

unkempt mirage
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alright cool, thanks

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what psu do you recomend?

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should i go with a EVGA psu?

steep gust
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budget?

unkempt mirage
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ive heard those are good (sorry for the spam i dont mean it im just remembering things as i send them)

steep gust
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EVGA has bad PSUs

unkempt mirage
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kind of yea, under 1.2K

steep gust
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You go by the model not by the brand

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is modularity important?

unkempt mirage
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cus its already 1.1K and i dont want to spend even more

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modularity, do you mean customizability?

steep gust
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modularity is are the cables connected to the PSU

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or can you remove them

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semi-modular means only the required cables are connected to the PSU

unkempt mirage
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like the cables that are connected to the mobo that hook up to the psu? sorry im like kind of new to the technical side of computers

latent light
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Semi-modular comes with the CPU and Motherboard cables built-in

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fully modular means you can remove any cable you like

latent light
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no modular means no cable can be removed from the psu

steep gust
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Modular, semi, non

unkempt mirage
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i dont know if this is important, but i am getting a pre built from ibuypower, but i can customize my specs

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oh ok thank you grim that makes more sense

steep gust
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I would aim for at least a semi modular PSU

unkempt mirage
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so a standard isnt a modular psu i would asume ?

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assume*

steep gust
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Corsair CXM (2015), SeaSonic FOCUS Gold, BitFenix WhisperM, EVGA G2 / G3, SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold, and Corsair RMx (2018) are all decent PSUs

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I doubt it

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Its probably the one o the cheapest PSU on the market, which isn't very good

unkempt mirage
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Gamdias Astrape P1 RGB 650G - 80 PLUS Gold, Full Modular thats the one that i chose would this one work?

latent light
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overpriced tbh

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you can get a 650W gold psu from corsair for $100 cheaper than the Gamdias

unkempt mirage
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oh alright

rugged fractal
queen gate
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had some driver issues with my laptop

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its making my so annoyed

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i decided to just do a reset

prime jasper
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anyone knows a good gaming headphones that doesn't break for no reason suddenly

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i had this msi ds502 and broke suddenly .... whenever i try to increase the volume from the headset itself the sound goes on one side

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even though i never dropped it

green nebula
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^

prime jasper
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well i need a wired headset with 7.1 surround

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idk really about the budget the prices here are a lil bit different cuz of the currency

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maybe a high end one or an avg one idk @plain vessel

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yes good mic

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i jus need something solid

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many of my headphones don't live for so long

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these are kinda expensive here th0 maybe a cheaper one

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lol

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mmmmaybe

prime raptor
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Why do you need 7.1 surround?

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it's a headset. Just use stereo

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Most of them have two speakers anyways and just use software tricks to do the 7.1

green nebula
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And that's usually extremely awful imo.

prime raptor
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^

green nebula
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I prefer a good stereo headphone.

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Feels a lot nicer on my ears.

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And that's the reason i got an ATH M50x because it was on sale.

prime raptor
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If you're budget is around $100usd Sennheiser has the Game One. Or the PC-37x if you use massdrop.

green nebula
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^^^

prime raptor
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Great speakers, built in mic

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They're very comfy as well.

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Plus Sennheiser sells parts for them so if they break you can fix them.

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Instead of getting new ones.

green nebula
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Which is always nice.

prime raptor
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Very

prime jasper
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which doesn't matter here because i live under a rock

green nebula
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Speaking of spare parts, i need to see if i can't replace my M50x's ear muffs (is that what you call them?)

prime raptor
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The foamy things?

green nebula
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Yee

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Ear pads

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there we go

prime raptor
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You'll be able to get more

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yeah, that's it

green nebula
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Been using this for 3 years now

prime raptor
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Why not @prime jasper ?

green nebula
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still going strong.

prime jasper
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i live in Egypt

prime raptor
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huh

green nebula
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oof

prime jasper
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i was thinking about something like razer kraken

green nebula
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Razer Krakens are decent, but their mic quality is awful and mine barely lasted a year.

prime raptor
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What's your budget in Egyptian pounds?

green nebula
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and their software is bullshit.

prime raptor
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(I don't know what egyptian currency is called forgive me)

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Because Souq has Sennheiser game one/zero for 5,659.00

green nebula
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Egyptian Pounds

prime raptor
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Really? Huh.

green nebula
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God

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Egypts money is better than South Africa's

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1 Egyptian Pound - 0.76 South African Rand.

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😿

prime raptor
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oof

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Tell me how this makes you feel

green nebula
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what does

prime raptor
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The whole currency issue. Let it out.

green nebula
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ooh

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Its bullshit

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🤷 Because our government is severely retarded.

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That's about it.

prime raptor
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I'm glad we had this talk.

green nebula
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👌

minor turret
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Sennheiser game one is decent if you dont use volume knob

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if you do it will break

sonic osprey
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first one

mental hatch
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Yea top

pallid silo
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awesomeeee 😄

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thanks guys ❤

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how do you setup remote desktop with at least 60fps? coz i know teamviewer is laggy as hell and i want to play games on my laptop remoting to my gaming desktop

sonic osprey
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...

mental hatch
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is the bf5 updates just bugged because i just downloaded the anthem beta in an hour with like 19mbs and now i started the updates from last week and im dropping to kbs

finite torrent
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Is your Wi-Fi sponsored by Mac Donald's

steep gust
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@pallid silo Get better wifi?

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Nearly 2v on vdimm but that is fine for benching

pallid silo
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40 download and 5 upload xd @finite torrent @steep gust

steep gust
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Yeah that isn't gonna be enough for a decent streaming with low latency

pallid silo
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ahh okay xD not even 480p?

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i play my games at 1440p 144hz on gaming pc

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steam link works well

steep gust
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Yeah because its a home network

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If you mean from a different network you will not be able to play anything that requires fast actions

pallid silo
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ahh okay fair enough! xD what about steam in home streaming?

steep gust
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If you have a good 5.0ghz network maybe

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I couldn't get the steam remote play thingy to work well on 2.4ghz

pallid silo
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how do you know if you have 5ghz]

steep gust
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Where is your router?

pallid silo
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downstairs xd

steep gust
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Then it most likely isn't 5.0ghz

pallid silo
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why? 😛

steep gust
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5.0ghz sucks at going through physical objects

pallid silo
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the steam android app for link thingy was laggy as hell and had lag spikes

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ohhh!

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i use powerline adapter on pc

steep gust
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You can check by network properties in windows

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powerline has its own issues FeelsBadMan

pallid silo
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its good tho xD as long as you put it in a wall

steep gust
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yeah minus the interference and other issues

pallid silo
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true 😛 but ive never had issues with my 40 down and 5 up

latent light
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internet was off for 12 hours

acoustic quail
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...

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Learn Linus , they bypassed ISP

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their network is directly hooked to the oversea internet traffic

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they are their own ISP

steep gust
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No?

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They have pretty much a fast lane to whatever company connects them to the greater parts of the world

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hinges, reservoir brackets, pump mounts, and fill port

420mm rad in the top, 360mm in the front, 280mm in the base

EATX support

400mm+ GPU length

Now I wish they went with 360mm in the top and didn't bother with 420mm since it makes the case long

sonic osprey
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Think the 400mm gpu length is if you dont fit a reservoir, maybe something like 300-320mm with reservoir fitted

steep gust
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Max 440 mm with front fan mounted

So 440mm with a 25mm fan

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Most "long" GPUs are still like 300-320mm

latent light
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my friend that's making a white build got this

lime pollen
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niceu

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still trying to find a good motherboard for my 8700

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also waiting on navi

latent light
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Navi's best card will probably compete with a 2070/1080

lime pollen
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as long as it's under 400$ I'm fine with that

latent light
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if Navi has HBM2 memory, then gg Navi

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it would be expensive af

lime pollen
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yeah I'd literally scream

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why

latent light
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GDDR6 hopefully, even GDDR5 would be fine

lime pollen
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mhm

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don't even ask

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!lfg

junior ploverBOT
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Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!

latent light
lime pollen
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go look in xbox chat if you're wanting to squad up

steep gust
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Navi isn't gonna have HBM2

latent light
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good

lime pollen
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It really shouldn't

steep gust
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AMD's current budget lineup doesn't

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They would have to do some serious changes to get HBM2

latent light
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you think it will be GDDR6?

steep gust
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Maybe

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GDDR6 is expensive but still going to end up cheaper than HBM2

latent light
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yeah lol

steep gust
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and now that both Samsung and Micron make GDDR6, Nvidia can't pull a GDDR5X

latent light
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8GB of HBM2 costs $150, for AMD it probably costs them under that though because partnership

steep gust
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and as tech matures it gets cheaper

latent light
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GDDR5X is high binned GDDR5?

steep gust
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Pretty much

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But Nvidia had contracts

latent light
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yeah it's exclusive

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if Navi can do 2070/1080/Vega 64 performance for under $400, it would be fine

lime pollen
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^

latent light
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well you can get a Vega 64 for $400

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blower cooler though

steep gust
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Vega 64 is garbage

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Buy a 56 and mod it

latent light
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Vega 64 LC is $500

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I wanted a 56, but got a RX 580 instead

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580 was like $120 cheaper

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🤷

lime pollen
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^

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rn the 580 is around 200$ cheaper

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but the 56 still has a huge performance gain over it

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I just want to upgrade my 1070 already tbh

latent light
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56 and 1070 are identical in most games

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although the 56 pulls ahead in DX12

lime pollen
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mhm

latent light
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if I had any vega card, I'd undervolt the core and the memory

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-50mV for both

lime pollen
steep gust
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or mod it and let it draw like 200% more power

latent light
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lol

steep gust
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HBM2 should be left alone since you can easily harm performance

latent light
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the PCB on the XFX Vega 56 is tiny wtf

lime pollen
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squints loudly

latent light
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only like 6 inches long

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decent backplate

steep gust
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Backplates do very little

latent light
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it looks nice

steep gust
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If its that cheap its not gonna have thermal pads between the backplate and pcb

latent light
lime pollen
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time to make a custom backplate

latent light
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I like custom heatsinks

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although they take up so much space

steep gust
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uh what

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My backplate adds like 5mm to my gpu

latent light
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I was talking about heatsink for the gpu, not the backplate lol

steep gust
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Yeah GPUs draw 200w+

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I think mine does nearly 300w

ornate shale
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Is the new radeon 7 even worth it for gaming?

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or should I wait for navi

latent light
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it sits at the same price range as the rtx 2080 and get around the same performance

ornate shale
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that's reassuring at least. I saw some people mention that it's not for gaming, but for content creating

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so I got really really confused

latent light
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it's a multipurpose gpu more than anything

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it does content creation and gaming

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this custom cooler is big

ornate shale
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Ahh I see. I might get it then, but at $700 it's not a pretty price tag to look at. I heard it costs AMD about $300 usd to make this card (just the memory alone), but my wallet is still hesitant on this

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I tink $550 or $600 sounds better

latent light
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16GB of HBM2 memory costs average joes $300, probably costs AMD $200-250

steep gust
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Radeon 7 will have the same issue as Vega at launch

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tiny amount of stock and huge demand

latent light
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low stock

steep gust
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100% its super low production

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Since its just a reskinned Mi50

ornate shale
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ugh

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As much as I wanna root for AMD, they're making it harder

latent light
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if they release 8GB or a 12GB version which is unlikely, it would probably be $100-150 cheaper

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some are claiming it's impossible to make an 8GB version of it

ornate shale
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would it even be a big difference between 8/12 vs 16?

latent light
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some games utilize more than 8GB of vram

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when settings are maxed out

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I hear resident evil 2 can use 12GB

steep gust
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Why wouldn't it be possible?

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People need to realize that disabling memory is not impossible

latent light
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lol

steep gust
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Literally just laser off the SMD that applies to it

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or just BIOS mod it and not solder the memory

latent light
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8GB Radeon VII would be a good purchase

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it wouldn't have 1 TB/s bandwidth anymore though

steep gust
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It wouldn't have much going for it then

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1TB/s bandwidth and like a quarter of the FP64 compared to the Mi50

latent light
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8GB version for gamers

ornate shale
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I just want a viable GPU that's not over $500

steep gust
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2060 then

latent light
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yeah 2060 is pretty good

steep gust
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GPUs over $500 are for 1440p / 4k nowadays

latent light
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1070 Ti performance

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you own a 2070 right?

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2060 seems like a punch to the gut to 2070 users because it's much better value lol

ornate shale
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I'm kinda trying to avoid nvidia, since I don't feel like they deserve the profit for price gouging their products

steep gust
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I have a 1080

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and we don't say the cost of R&D

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So claiming price gouging isn't exactly accurate

latent light
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Nvidia does have much higher R&D budget than AMD does for GPU market

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AMD is more focused on CPUs

ornate shale
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but nvidia also knows their monopoly and will take advantage of it as uch

latent light
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and after CES, they seemed more focused on mobile CPUs than everything else

ornate shale
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so many typos god dam this mechanical keyboard

steep gust
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Mobile CPUs = money

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Nvidia has had a monopoly on high-end GPUs for generations dude

ornate shale
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I know and I wanted that to finally end ;_;

latent light
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yeah since the GTX 700 series

steep gust
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Its not going to

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AMD doesn't have the budget

latent light
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did you say bulge

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AMD can sure compete in the mid range though

steep gust
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Not if Nvidia really wants to

latent light
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in fact, they've been doing better in the mid-range for the past year

ornate shale
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damn it, well if the only viable option is nvidia, I'm waiting until black friday sales so they don't get as much profit from me

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but if Radeon 7 has enough stock and if it's good, I'ma get it

steep gust
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Nvidia already isn't making much of a profit off their GPUs

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There is a reason why AIB cards cost more than the founders edition

ornate shale
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well that's great to hear 😄

latent light
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what gpu do you have right now

ornate shale
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sadly only gtx 980

latent light
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tbh you could buy an RTX 2060 for $350 then sell that 980 for about $150

ornate shale
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that is true, yes. I'm just waiting to see how good Navi will be, first. Whenever possible, I want to support AMD if they make something worth buying. If not...I guess it's another round of Nvidia for me

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I have never sold a GPU before though, so I don't know what wires to include or anything. I'm a dumb ass about this stuff, so I don't wanna miss a part, then have the buyer accuse me of scamming

steep gust
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So just say no included accessories

ornate shale
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Oh okay, thank you

keen forge
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Saw you guys talking about the vega 56 PCB length, looked at mine, realised its half the length of the card xD

latent light
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it makes sense because the memory is on the GPU die itself

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so no need for all of that extra PCB space

keen forge
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I like it, it's got a nice chonky heatsink there

steep gust
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Stick the power monitoring on the backside and you can easily cut off 3-4in

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HMB2 isnt on the die but the substrate

latent light
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yeah it's the 2 dies under the main GPU die

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they are logic dies with four 1GB HBM2 modules on each

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they are stacked on top of each other

steep gust
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You can see the two dies in the paste

latent light
#

I wonder why the VRMs are that color

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the mosfets are white and the chokes are brass color

steep gust
#

Thermal pads?

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dunno

red trellis
#

still crashing with 0x00005 bfv

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bfv.exe
1.0.68.64411
5c3644c4
unknown
0.0.0.0
00000000
c0000005
00000001500f2eb0
14f4
01d4b69b5d1edae3
C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield V\bfv.exe
unknown
a38bf86c-f6cc-4341-a767-2a3661db1413

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prime jasper
#

nice

tame topaz
#

I had a question.. I'm playing battlefield 1 on Acer predator helios 300 with 8gb ram,1050ti and 17 7700hq..how much fps shall I get?

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Can anyone help

clever abyss
#

@tame topaz do you have anything running in the background?

tame topaz
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@clever abyss no

clever abyss
#

weird. its a laptop correct?

tame topaz
#

Ya

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@clever abyss but benchmarks on YouTube shows that it should give 80-90 fps at least ,on low settings

clever abyss
#

are you playing on battery?

tame topaz
#

@clever abyssno..I Never do

clever abyss
#

ok yeah that's weird

tame topaz
#

But on high and ultra it gives 40-50 fps..which is fine.. according to yt benchmarks

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@clever abyssit definitely is

clever abyss
#

so what fps do you get?

tame topaz
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40-45 ultra

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Around 50 high

clever abyss
#

and your saying thats not normal?

tame topaz
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50-55 medium

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@clever abyss 40-45 on ultra is normal..but not crossing 60 on low is not normal

clever abyss
#

i would just play on high then

tame topaz
#

My fps is not. Capped..

minor turret
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1050ti is nothing special, especially on laptop where GPUs are often nerfed

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@tame topaz you have 8 gig of ram most likely single channel with bad timings

tame topaz
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@clever abyssya...guess I'll do that too

minor turret
#

that + laptop cpu will limit you

tame topaz
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@minor turret ya...but I just ask for constant 60 on medium settings..is that too much

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@minor turret ya but it's i7 7700 hq isn't it enough

minor turret
#

new games like black ops 4/battlefield v will absolutely demolish CPU/Ram

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if you have single channel ram you will notice it

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also, the 7700 HQ is worse than 2600k, a 8 year old desktop cpu.

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at least on paper

tame topaz
#

@minor turret ya..I played bfV beta...and it gave me better frames than bf1...I got a constant 60 on low...60-65 to be precise

lone wren
#

Hi everyone, does anyone here play on a PS4 and uses an Elgato HD60S? To a Mac?

latent light
#

not bad

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Geoforce though

soft pecan
#

My friend’s notebook is overheating and he opened up the internals to apple a new thermal pastes. His computer doesn’t boot anymore afterwards 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

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he thought that maybe the problem is monitor and he dissected the whole notebook completely, now he cant put them back together...

storm osprey
#

570 for 120, with 2 free games

keen forge
#

@soft pecan Outstanding move

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Does anyone have any idea when that stupid AMD graphics drivers bug with the outlines will get fixed? They knew it was an issue a while ago but at 19.1.2 it's still an issue

latent light
#

Never heard of it

keen forge
#

It’s a big thing on AMD

latent light
#

I tried to look it up but can't find anything on it

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like what do you mean by outlines

buoyant rover
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I mean

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overclocking Ryzen breaks battlefield's sound engine

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so not insane that other shit is breaking too

latent light
#

I hear overclocking is causing crashing without error messages

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considering how fine optimized BF1 is in current state, all problems with BFV are game related

buoyant rover
#

BF4 and BF1 break too

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if overclocking Ryzen

latent light
#

The problem is apparently caused by a recent AGESA update. If you haven't updated your motherboard's UEFI/BIOS, you're probably not going to experience the issue.

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it happens mostly on B350 motherboards

buoyant rover
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@latent light I experienced it on stock bios, an upgraded version, and the newest version

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It's not a big deal, I only play at 60hz right now

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but it would be completely fucking awful if I was trying to go for 144hz in Battlefield, which requires overclocking

latent light
#

what kind of sound problem is it

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sound stuttering?

buoyant rover
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sound seems to only be allowed 3-5 channels at a time

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so it can play that many sounds but no more

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the normal is 32+

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so the sound constantly cuts out for everything and goes quiet

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some things can be heard but most can't

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game works fine otherwise

latent light
#

it's more of a motherboard issue

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seems to happen more on the 300 series motherboards

buoyant rover
#

I do have a B350

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like I said once I eventually upgrade to a 144hz panel it's going to fucking kill me though

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going to be impossible to get anywhere near that in Battlefield on 3.2-3.4GHz Ryzen 1

latent light
#

I kinda regret getting a $80 B350 board since the VRMs aren't that great and the built in sound is so quiet

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sound cutting out happens on intel too

buoyant rover
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VRMs don't affect 1600s much at all

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otherwise I might care

latent light
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"I upgraded my PC to a high core Intel 7980XE overclocked and my sound is cutting out at random. I have tried onboard Realtek HD sound and astro a50 base station optical and USB direct. There is something that causes the sound cuts on high core overclocked systems. This is not exclusive to AMD ryzen. I have also disabled all the origin notifications and uninstalled nvidia HD audio out of the drivers."

buoyant rover
#

It's definitely a Battlefield problem

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that Ryzen and apparently other overclocked chips happen to be triggering

latent light
#

does it happen with other games?

buoyant rover
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no

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just BF4/1/V

latent light
#

it's probably because battlefield sound design is too good for some hardware to work with it

buoyant rover
#

definitely not

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It ain't 1995

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sound cards and shit

latent light
#

I do remember getting crackling sounds in BF4 whenever big explosions or many explosions were going off

buoyant rover
#

but I will probably upgrade my board and CPU later so it should go away

latent light
#

but that was on a 4690K at 5.25 GHz

buoyant rover
#

that'll be by the time BF6 is out though

pine vault
#

also, the sound bug in Battlefront that went unfixed for so long

buoyant rover
#

or BC3 pray to jesus

latent light
#

my old 4690K could hit 5.25 GHz stable at 1.28v

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now my friend has it and he has it running the same frequency

covert heron
#

you can have sound issues too if you have the sample rate and bit depth set too high in your audio settings

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like on the advanced tab under speaker properites, you probably dont want the quality cranked as high as it can go

storm osprey
#

^

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most people are running onboard, and those definitely dont support those rates

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hell, even audiophile stuff doesnt

covert heron
#

yeah you'll get weird issues due to resampling

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off top of my head im pretty sure youd want about 16bit and 44.1khz max for most setups

storm osprey
#

i just leave it default unless you have a dac that supports something else natively

latent light
#

is it true that most games don't do a good job of utilizing faster memory than GDDR5

keen forge
#

Look at reddit, everyone with AMD gets it

latent light
#

I don't get it on my rx 580

keen forge
#

Driver number?

latent light
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let me check

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18.11.2

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from november 19

keen forge
#

Except since I've had the game every driver i've had has had the issue

latent light
#

I don't think it's a driver problem

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more of problem with the game itself

keen forge
#

It's AMD's side, not DICE's

latent light
#

might have something to do with the new revive system

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because that problem doesn't exist in other bf games

keen forge
#

Nah it's been like that since before that

steep gust
#

Try an older driver

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DDU your current

keen forge
#

I did try that but it was still there - how far should I roll back?

steep gust
#

Till it works

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or DDU and try the most recent one again

latent light
#

how long does the artifact last

steep gust
#

If you have any overclocks that has to go

keen forge
#

I turn off all overclocks for BFV - it crashes if I OC

latent light
#

BFV doesn't like overclocks

keen forge
#

and @latent light until you alt tab, enter squad menu or alt enter x2

steep gust
#

BFV handles my overclocks fine

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It sounds like y'all are running unstable overclocks all the time

keen forge
#

Nope mine was stable

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or, is

latent light
#

my ryzen 5 1600 at 3.8 GHz has no issues

steep gust
#

"Overclock is stable"

"BFV crashes when I overclock"

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pick one

covert heron
#

sometimes games are just weird though

keen forge
#

I pick both

steep gust
#

Then your overclock ain't stable

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That simple

covert heron
#

like GTAV would crash unless i downclocked my factory OC'd 980 to reference speeds

keen forge
#

I'll leave it on and hit you up with the results when I can be bothered

covert heron
#

while literally every single otehr game worked at another +150Mhz offset

latent light
#

war thunder used to crash my rx 580 when overclocked but at stock it was fine

steep gust
#

I'm had plenty of benchmarks pass at 2050mhz on core on my 1080, and then a few will crash (Siege hates unstable overclocks)

keen forge
#

Haven't OCd my GPU because i'm lazy

steep gust
#

That's like saying your RAM overclock is stable because it only returns an error once every blue moon

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Any error on RAM = ticking time bomb to corrupting your windows install

latent light
#

betrayed, do games take advantage of higher bandwidth speeds than GDDR5

steep gust
#

They can

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But generally benchmarks benefit more from memory bandwidth than games

latent light
#

people are saying an 8GB version of the Radeon VII will cut the bandwidth in half and will see equal performance to a vega 64

steep gust
#

It ain't that simple

latent light
#

I mean 8GB HBM2 is at 480 GB/s already

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games shouldn't be able to take advantage of faster speeds than that

steep gust
#

Vega 64 is at 483.8 GB/s

Radeon VII is on a new node and runs faster than Vega 64

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Also Radeon VII will have a few CU disabled so it'll overclock better

latent light
#

UFD Tech dude said an 8GB radeon VII would perform like a Vega 64

keen forge
#

I’ve rolled back to 18.5.1, came out before BFV, hope it works

steep gust
#

!support

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#

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steep gust
#

@prime jasper

storm osprey
#

you troll @latent light

latent light
storm osprey
#

mg42 rof too slow

latent light
#

now talking about battlefield in tech

storm osprey
#

LOL

latent light
storm osprey
#

post that link here

latent light
#

which

storm osprey
#

to amd stuff

latent light
#

was tested as an "AMD Eng Sample"

#

possibly Ryzen 7?

storm osprey
#

ugh now im getting excited again

latent light
steep gust
#

Means very little

buoyant rover
#

@latent light That won't get 144hz tho

latent light
#

what won't

buoyant rover
#

1600x at 3.8

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i think you were talking about something else

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so nvm

latent light
buoyant rover
#

Radeon 7 is bad tho

#

if you're playing games

latent light
#

if the Radeon VII is bad then the RTX 2080 is bad too

#

🤷

buoyant rover
#

I have seen nothing good from the R7

#

for gaming

latent light
#

it's not even out yet

buoyant rover
#

we've seen some benchmarks

#

we'll see post-release how it is

#

but it's very obviously not meant for gamers anyhow

latent light
#

it's a multi-purpose GPU

buoyant rover
#

It has 16gb of HMB2 does it not

#

"multi-purpose" usually means it's going to be sub-par but playable

#

shits not going to be for games, you wait and see

storm osprey
#

i think of it as a titan equivalent

#

they kept saying r7 is for creators

latent light
#

if it's not for games then why does it come with 3 games

buoyant rover
#

AMD marketing

storm osprey
#

and literally said "and we know you want to see benchmarks"

latent light
#

they showed it playing games at CES

buoyant rover
#

I'm sure it plays games fine

#

but if you buy a R7 and all you do is play games

storm osprey
#

right, because its a gpu, and no matter its intentions, people want to see benchmarks

buoyant rover
#

you're in for a ride

storm osprey
#

same for titan gpus

#

you can spend hundreds less and get the same performance

#

at least for r7 its priced a lot cheaper than titan gpus

minor turret
#

LOL 116 SINGLE CORE SCORE, AMD BTFO

storm osprey
#

9700k is at 150-160

minor turret
storm osprey
#

welp, lets wait for final numbers and prices

steep gust
#

@minor turret M8 userbenchmark is trash

#

I can run a 9900k at 7ghz or 1ghz and it gets treated the same

minor turret
#

Your OC must be unstable then wesmart

latent light
#

116 single core is at 3.6 ghz boost

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The test result lists the 12-core 24-thread engineering sample with a 3.4 GHz base clock and a 3.6 GHz average boost during the test. The 2D3212BGMCWH2_37/34_N product identifier lists the peak boost clock as 3.7 GHz, and the TDP rating as 105W. We're expecting higher turbo speeds from the third-gen Ryzen processors, the current gen tops out at 4.3 GHz, but early silicon typically comes with dialed back frequencies as vendors fine-tune the design. In other words, these results likely aren't representative of the final clock speeds.

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The chips' single-core floating point score is also telling - at 130 points it outstrips a current-gen Ryzen 7 2700X (at roughly the same clocks) by ~13%, an improvement likely born of improved instruction per clock (IPC) throughput. That implies this chip comes with the Zen 2 microarchitecture.

steep gust
#

wow 10-15% IPS improvement leaks and the leak happens to follow right down the middle

#

Y'all need to realize this shit is easy to fake and plenty of Zen2 leaks have been

minor turret
#

@latent light sssh AMD bad, look at single core score lul

#

wont be able to run wow at 300 fps

latent light
#

it will be able to run BFV a 4K 240hz at 2 GHz

steep gust
#

with what GPUs

latent light
#

NVlink RTX titans

steep gust
#

yeah no

#

Not strong enough

#

Also overclocked 2080ti crush the RTX titan in games

latent light
#

what can a RTX titan do at low settings in 4K

steep gust
#

SLI 2080ti is enough for 4k 144hz

#

But not more

latent light
#

what can they do at ultra

#

80-90 fps?

steep gust
#

Shit wrong game why google

latent light
#

lol

steep gust
latent light
#

the only 4K 144hz monitor has to be overclocked to get to 144hz

steep gust
#

Best I can find

#

You mean the only 4k 144hz panel

#

There is more than one 4k 144hz monitor

latent light
#

yeah the acer one

steep gust
#

Asus has one

latent light
#

don't they both do 4K 120hz stock and have the be overclocked to 144hz

steep gust
#

and HP for some reason

Wait that is a TV woahthink

#

4k 120hz with HDR

molten bramble
#

Y’all see that new ultra wide screen from Samsung? Stupid big.

steep gust
#

4k 144hz with HDR when using chroma sub sampling due to bandwidth issues

#

The monitor itself has no issues doing 4k 144hz HDR

#

DisplayPort does

latent light
#

yeah 32:9 5120x1440

molten bramble
#

Insane

latent light
#

think they said 144hz too?

molten bramble
#

I thought it went higher than that?

#

I don’t know if I’d want it to be honest, I like to segment my applications across screens.

#

I don’t even think the 1050Ti could properly drive something like that, probably have to get into the 2070 realm.

latent light
#

I'd like a 32:9 3840x1080 but I don't want it to be too big

#

just two 24" screen together

steep gust
#

Considering an iGPU can drive 4k monitors

latent light
#

I never checked out if the 2400G can do csgo in 4K

steep gust
#

5120x1440 is almost similar to 4k in pixels

molten bramble
#

Hmm

latent light
#

yeah pretty close

molten bramble
#

I don’t think I would want a monitor that took up 90% of my desk.

latent light
#

3840x2160 = 8,294,000 pixels
5120x1440 = 7,372,800 pixels

steep gust
#

I want a 3440x1440p monitor

latent light
#

I want ultrawide

steep gust
#

It is ultrawide

#

21:9

#

but not excessive

latent light
#

ultrawide 1080p

steep gust
#

ew no

molten bramble
#

Who makes that @steep gust ?

steep gust
latent light
#

3440x1440 is hard to drive at 144hz

steep gust
#

Now add IPS and gsync / freesync and the list becomes smaller

#

I think I'll go with freesync instead of gsync tbh

#

Shit NVM there is only one then (at 120hz)

latent light
#

my brother has an Acer Predator X34

#

only goes to 100hz

steep gust
#

I want the X35 to be release

molten bramble
#

Ah, i saw a predator the other day, but it was pricey.

steep gust
#

but then the price tag big oof

latent light
#

I like 32:9

#

I'm going to wait for those to become cheaper

steep gust
#

3440x1440p 200hz HDR VA is gonna be like $2500

#

I can't afford that

molten coral
#

I've been thinking to buy a 43'' ultrawide monitor from samsung for a long time now.

latent light
#

but idk that brand

#

do competitive players prefer TN over IPS and VA

molten coral
molten bramble
#

I have had a great experience with all my Samsung products, except their IP cameras, those are literal crap.

latent light
molten coral
#

Samsung is great

#

it looks great

molten bramble
#

🔥

molten coral
#

only thing I don't like is the resolution

molten bramble
#

!jumbo 🔥

junior ploverBOT
latent light
#

3840x1200

#

wtf

#

32:10 oh

#

so two 16:10 monitors

molten coral
#

Could also get the 49'' for 100 euro more.

#

The 43'' is 800

#

I'm using an 34'' ultrawide at the moment.

#

It's great but I wouldn't mind something bigger csdsmile

steep gust
#

wtf why that aspect ratio

#

21:9 has issues

#

Don't make it worse by making it XX:10

molten coral
#

issues?

latent light
#

a few games have UI problems with anything wider than 16:9

molten bramble
#

Ah

latent light
#

then again, games that have problems with that don't deserve my money

molten coral
#

Most games are great although I never play old games.

#

A lot of people who tend to hate on 21:9 are people who play mostly old games so the UI looks like shit.

latent light
#

people that play csgo on 4:3

molten bramble
#

Ouch

molten coral
#

And a lot of old games don't support 21:9 so it isn't even worth to buy a 21:9 if you only play old games.

latent light
#

you can play at 16:9 on a 21:9 but there will be black bars

molten bramble
#

I mean, couldn’t you just dial it down and box it a little to play old stuff?

#

Yeah

molten coral
#

Black bars are terrible

#

I don't even watch youtube videos on fullscreen just because of the black bars HaHAA

#

Mostly use the larger setting

latent light
#

if I had a 32:9 monitor, I'd play games on the left half and discord on the other

#

like how my two monitors are already configured

molten coral
latent light
#

that looks easier to deal with

#

I see megumin

molten coral
latent light
molten coral
#

Also have darkness

molten bramble
#

So you’d window the game on the same screen and then run it side by side with discord? Seems like that would break up the fluidity that you get with a dedicated screen. I don’t like doing that at work on a monitor with applications, I suspect it would drive me bonkers with a game.

#

That said, I have three 24” monitors at work, and it’s still not enough workspace.

molten coral
#

Dunno, I don't really play old games.

#

97% of the games I have or have played had 21:9 support

molten bramble
#

I do like the organization of y’alls setups, clean.

latent light
#

GTA 5, camera zoomed out, 16:9 4K TV versus 32:9 gaming monitor

molten coral
#

I wanna get a 43'' ultrawide and replace the 27'' for the 34'' so i've stacked 2 ultrawide monitors.

#

My 1070 loves me for this idea HaHAA

latent light
#

tbh 1080p ultrawide would be fine with a 1070

molten coral
#

my 34'' is 1080p

#

A lot of people say 1080p is shit with ultrawide but tbh I don't really care.

#

It doesn't look bad

latent light
#

get a 1080p 32:9 and put it above your 21:9 as the discord/chrome screen

molten bramble
#

Stretching?

latent light
#

and keep the 21:9 as the gaming monitor

#

and keep the 21:9 as the gaming monitor

molten coral
#

I'll be waiting for a 1440p 43'' ultrawide.

#

Is discord doing a oopsie doopsie again?

latent light
#

yeah my message failed to send too

#

yeah my message failed to send too

#

discord servers GWcorbinTopKek

#

discord is not a reliable voice chat for gamers yet

#

teamspeak and skype are still better in that regard

#

discord is the best text chat app though

#

discord is the best text chat app though

steep gust
#

TeamSpeak has better settings

#

and quality

#

like teamspeaks shits all over discord when it comes to group leading more than 4 people

latent light
#

yeah lol

#

btw, Lisa Su confirmed more than 8 cores for 3rd gen ryzen in an interview

#

Reporter: So during the keynote, somebody messaged me about the core counts on Ryzen…

Su: So it only took like 30 minutes for somebody [to ask the question]!

Reporter: So can you give us any indication where Ryzen third-gen is going to be at?

Su: If you look at the evolution of Ryzen, we’ve always had an advantage in core count, and so in this particular case we wanted to show sort of a head-to-head comparison: eight cores, 16 threads. Some people may have noticed on the package that there’s some extra room.

Reporter: Yes, we’ve already done the math.

Su: So there is some extra room on that package. And I think you might expect that we will have more than eight cores. I didn’t say how many more.

steep gust
#

And I think you might expect that we will have more than eight cores. I didn’t say how many more.

#

big thing there

lofty light
#

Who needs one of those super ultrawide when you can have 3 monitors? HaHAA

latent light
#

next up, 3 ultra wides

#

cover your whole field of view

lofty light
#

Even my massive desk isn't enough for that.... yet

#

You can see my PC hidden away at the right

tame urchin
#

Nahnahnah

#

Make it a 360 degree field of view so you actually have to turn

covert heron
#

@molten coral I have that same case i absolutely love it

opaque sapphire
#

I'm building a PC for a friend. Are there any changes I need to make for this? (He primarily plays Total War games and might get into some AAA games, but doesnt care about high-res)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vttgjy

steep gust
#

Get a cheaper 580

#

or spend a little more and get a 2060

#

Get a better PSU

#

1070s are still pretty cheap

latent light
#

you can find RX 580s for $50 cheaper than that one lmao

#

Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 is going for $200 on newegg

#

probably the best 580 you can buy

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RTX 2060 for $350 is another great option

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also I can't recommend that ASUS Prime motherboard, 4+2 phase and doesn't even have a heatsink

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just bare VRMs

steep gust
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I can't recommend any of Asus' budget lineup

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or really Asus' lineup as a whole

latent light
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check out these 2 builds

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changed the motherboard and graphics card

opaque sapphire
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Only problem is 2 things:

  1. It needs ASUS Aura Sync regardless (and it needs to be M-ATX)
  2. 20- - series Nvidia cards are getting RMA’d like crazy, but we’re also trying to do a RGB AMD build. The 580 you first had linked is a great card, just not RGB 😦
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@latent light

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Thank you for assisting all of you!

latent light
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this RX 580 has RGB logo on it

opaque sapphire
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That just might work

latent light
opaque sapphire
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Problem is, I'd need Gigabyte hardware for the RGB sync unfortunately

latent light
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what it looks like

opaque sapphire
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As long as it cycles colors it'd be great

latent light
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yeah it cycles by default

opaque sapphire
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Thats not bad

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Do you think there is a better ASUS M-ATX motherboard though than what I have? If not, I may have to cycle out the RAM and Mobo

latent light
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that sapphire nitro+ does have RGB lighting, even on the fans

opaque sapphire
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Thats a nice card

latent light
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that ASUS prime motherboard you showed is just kinda meh

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they didn't even put a heatsink on the VRMs

steep gust
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@opaque sapphire Uh what? The RMA rates for founder's edition 2080ti was normal

latent light
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if you get a DOA card, just send it back for another

steep gust
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yeah they died slightly more than expected, but nothing crazy

opaque sapphire
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I've had friends say they've RMA'd their 2070's and one 2080

steep gust
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Its been mostly dealt with now and it only really did anything to the FOUNDERS EDITON 2080ti

latent light
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well 2080 Tis with the reference PCB

steep gust
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I know someone who has RMA'd 4 Titan X (pascal) and yet to get a fully functional one, one experience means very little

opaque sapphire
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The 2080 was Asus and the 2070's werent founders i think. Not calling these new cards bad, they just had a rushed launch that's all

steep gust
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I mean the cards are also bad generally for their price

opaque sapphire
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Personally I'd love to get a 2080 though

steep gust
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The 2080 is a terrible buy

opaque sapphire
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Oh yeah def

steep gust
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Price to performance wise its shit

opaque sapphire
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raytracing

steep gust
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The 2080ti got away with being the best of the best

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"ray-tracing"

a single GPU can't do full on ray tracing and the BFV reflections ain't proper ray tracing

latent light
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would be nice to see a Navi announcement

opaque sapphire
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^^^

steep gust
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Computex

latent light
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Navi is rumored to launch as late as July though

opaque sapphire
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Literally my R9 fury is about to die so they need to hurry it up lol

latent light
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die out of no where?

opaque sapphire
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No, its just now started experiencing artifacts, occasional black screens (for a second), etc

latent light
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weird

steep gust
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lower overclock if you have one

opaque sapphire
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My fury is the highest clocked on the market (iirc) so its no wonder its dying so soon

steep gust
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eh it should be fine

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Binning doesn't increasing the risk of dying

opaque sapphire
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It's at stock from the factory but I can try to lower the clock to see if it helps

steep gust
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Does the heatsink contact memory?

opaque sapphire
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Um

steep gust
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A lot of cheaper GPUs cheap out on thermal pads

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Which can end poorly if your GPU runs hot

opaque sapphire
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I mean, this would happen at Idle too

latent light
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I wanna check my RX 580 to see if there's thermal pads for the memory but I don't want to void warranty just yet

steep gust
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Legally it can't void the warranty

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You now just have to prove you didn't kill it via removing the cooler

latent light
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like there isn't a void warranty sticker on any of the screws

steep gust
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Check the warranty

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Lots of companies allow repasting

latent light
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it's gigabyte warranty

steep gust
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dunno about gigglebyte

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They are all over the place with everything

latent light
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for AMD, I'm just going to get Sapphire from now on

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they are the best AIB for AMD

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XFX is good too but XFX coolers are meh

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XFX used to be Nvidia exclusive

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now they have no partnership with them

opaque sapphire
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Thats what I have (although it was new when I got it)

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Hell of a card

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Crushed 1060's and rivaled 1070's at the time

latent light
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4GB HBM

opaque sapphire
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Yeah but I can still run titles (FFXV, Black Ops 4, etc) 60+ fps 1440p

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I even ran BF1 at 50fps max settings on 4k

latent light
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Vega 64 LC is nice but the power consumption

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360W

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I like hybrid cards

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cool and quiet

opaque sapphire
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Yeah. I really want that Radeon VII tho

latent light
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do you need an ASUS board for that build

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one you posted earlier

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this one would be a better option

opaque sapphire
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Thanks!

latent light
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mother of oof

minor turret
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Cheaping out on thermal pads is a big thonker

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unless labour costs are a big part of it

steep gust
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couple of dollars per GPU adds up

tepid river
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@latent light vega is like a jet engine

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Idk about the hybrid+air cooler

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But the power it draws its gross

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It isnt even worth it

snow snow
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can anyone help me helping a friend to update the drives for battlefield 5? his geeforce experience is in version 388.57, but he needs 416.94 driver version or later for playing battlefield 5!

tepid river
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Delete geforce experience plz

steep gust
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Vega is fine

night talon
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@snow snow he just needs to look for updates. What is the problem?

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@tepid river why?

tepid river
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wehat wh

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what

minor turret
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@steep gust its not dollars per gpu but cents per gpu

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unless labour is really expensive

snow snow
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it says in geeforce experience that there is no more updates! @night talon

queen radish
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I am about to buy an asus with i7-8750h and gtx 1060 3gb vram, 8gb ram, will it run bf1 smoothly?

steep gust
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Thermal pads are not super expensive, but when you need a lot of them then cutting out $1-2 worth per GPU when you make 10,000 adds up