technology

[fair willow]

I thoroughly enjoy my water cooled system

[storm osprey]

until it leaked

[minor turret]

yay free new stuff

[warm bane]

Hi, I'm having an issue with BFV it says missing online access and I can't play online. I've disabled Direct X 12 and also turned off firewalls, Restarted and Updated both PC and Orgin but nothing worked. does anyone have any ideas?

[turbid verge]

!support

[junior plover]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

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If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

If you need help in this Discord server you can send a Direct Message to our @woeful crater bot!

[turbid verge]

@warm bane would recommend check forums and/or contact EA about it

[warm bane]

I contacted them and Checked forms nothing so far but thank you for the suggestion

[dark idol]

After update i have to do the prologue again????

[warm bane]

do you have to finish the prologue to play online?

[storm osprey]

yes

its like 10 minutes

[serene gull]

Yeah can you help me

Cabt hear squad ingame on xbox whu

[prime jasper]

Wzup? i got like max 80fps with the new driver from nivida wtf ? someone else got issues with new driver update?

[keen forge]

Nope, cause I’m AMD

because AMD totally has no driver issues

[storm osprey]

try toggline dx 12 and dx11

[crude storm]

amd has zero driver issues

[covert heron]

isnt that problem with colored outlines of dead players an amd issue?

like the ones that stay on your screen

[keen forge]

Ohhhhhhh that bloody bug

Yeah that’s an AMD thing

New driver update doesn’t fix it either

Might roll back a few

But I don’t think that’ll fix anything

[covert heron]

ive had issues with both, but i will admit nvidia has had some extra dumb driver issues

amd mostly i had issues with games not running well until the driver released 3 months after the game dropped

with nvidia there was a few month period where i would get that goddamn nvlddmkm error any time i tried to use google chrome

it was right when 980ti came out and the last driver without the bug didnt support 980ti lol

[keen forge]

I never had any issues with my 1050ti and Nvidea drivers. That or I never noticed them

[covert heron]

so had to do some damn INF editing to get the old driver to accept the new card

also for awhile you could only have 2 of SLI + gsync + shadowplay

any of those 2 worked together but all 3 broke

[keen forge]

Yeah AMD drivers have that old red wine effect or whatever people call it - ages well

[minor turret]

what really pisses me off about nvidia

is forcing people to login to use shadowplay

[covert heron]

^

[minor turret]

because 700-800 dollars for 2080 isnt enough

they have to sell user data too

[covert heron]

it only took them what 7 years to add split audio recording to shadowplay too

[glad cosmos]

Tanks are shit. There is 0 splash damage!!!

[steep gust]

yes what does that have to do with tech

[terse steeple]

LMAO

[strange quiver]

yo guys, anyone have an idea to fix this issue?: When i alt+tab, a lot of the times BF5 crashes

[minor turret]

disable full screen optimization if updated w10

also try using alt+enter instead of alt tab

[prime jasper]

is there any way to launch the game and make soldiers speak a certain language without changing ui language

[strange quiver]

@minor turret full screen optimization? where can i find that?

[minor turret]

right click shortcut to game

should be under settings somewhere

[acoustic coyote]

anybody having extremely slow downloads on the latest patch?

i have 200 mbps and its downloading at 1 mbps XD

[naive garden]

Big rip

[steep gust]

200Mbps is only 25MBps

add in some other issues and 1MBps is possible

[minor turret]

omg i got a BSOD

and bfv deleted all settings saved

the fuck is this shit

[lime pollen]

contact support maybe

[minor turret]

lol would accomplish nothing

[steep gust]

Pretty sure origin has cloud saves for settings

[minor turret]

it failed

somehow origin reset everything and uploaded these default settings to cloud

oh for fucks sake and i had every zoom tweaked

a config file setup

[steep gust]

Uniform aiming or bust

[lime pollen]

what is uniform aiming exactly

[rigid knoll]

Uniform Soldier Aiming probably. It tries to keep same feel of sensitivity regardless of fov/zoom

[lime pollen]

mm

[steep gust]

Its matches the sens across all fov / zooms

[prime jasper]

Have had a free sync 144hz monitor for over a year but an nvidia card. Just enabled gsync because of that new compatibility feature and played a quick game on bo4

And WOW is it a big difference. Feels like I'm experiencing 144hz all over again lol

[dark idol]

Does anyone know how to fix the Missing Online Access problem? DX12 is already off.

[keen forge]

contact (EA?) support for a BSOD... what?

[latent light]

damn my brother has Galax HOF GOC 32GB of 4000 MHz DDR4 CL19 and he has it set to 3200 MHz CL11 (11-11-11-28) @steep gust

probably the best ram you can get for overclocking

he bought it yesterday and is still testing it out

[steep gust]

GALAX might bring a 5000mhz kit to market so

I hate that you can't buy GALAX stuff in the USA

[latent light]

it's stupid expensive for hall of fame stuff

[steep gust]

Yeah its not for consumers

Its for extreme users who are willing to pay for hardware that is pushed to its limit

Now considering I have $300 in DDR4, a really nice 2x8 kit might have been a better idea

Shame the only kit I can find is sold out and a trashy gold

[latent light]

ram prices are decent now

[steep gust]

You can buy a kit of the 4000mhz HoF stuff for $320

[latent light]

I got 2x8GB 3000 MHz CL15 for $200 back in 2017

[steep gust]

from eBay

CL15 is probably CJR

[latent light]

now it's like $120-130

[steep gust]

But I also want a Z390 Dark

and a custom loop

and a new case

and new GPU, new CPU, etc

[latent light]

and my motherboard doesn't let me push its stock 3000 mhz at CL15, have to do CL18

[steep gust]

Also tell him speed > latency most of the time

[latent light]

he has a 8086K

[steep gust]

But Skylake freaks the fuck out if you go above 4133mhz

and sets a bunch of sub timings all over the place

[latent light]

CL15 is nice on DDR4

I think once you have CL15, you should start increasing the frequency

do a lot of people buy high frequency ram so they can downclock it for much tighter timings?

[steep gust]

no

You want to find the combination of frequency that gives the best read / writes with low latencies

But generally increasing the frequency does way more than timings

I would aim for like 3866mhz with the tightest possible timings

but 4x8 on Skylake limits your overclocking (You need a Maximus X Apex or Z390 Dark to really push memory)

[latent light]

why did AMD make a 8-core threadripper on the first gen

basically a Ryzen 7 with more PCI-E lanes and quad channel memory

[steep gust]

yeah that is why

[latent light]

you can get the 1900X for like $300 now

decent I guess

3.8 GHz base and 4.0 GHz boost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOH-KCFnN8

you can overclock the 1900X to 4.3 GHz

wtf

no frametime comparison

lame

[prime jasper]

Is anyone getting micro stutters recently in like your mouse when you go to spin say 90 degrees and it whips you around an extra 90-180 degrees suddenly

[steep gust]

That isn't micro stuttering

[prime jasper]

It hasn't happened before and doesn't seem to on any other game of mine.

[balmy kite]

could be hard drive?

[latent light]

[foggy shadow]

@prime jasper Perhaps reinstall mouse drivers?

[latent light]

25mm fan

[solid horizon]

25mm? for what purpose

[steep gust]

servers

and VRMs

[lofty light]

I've got a few 40mm fans

[spark folio]

since the update my frame rate has been taking a hit in this squad conquest

most of my settings are on low except mesh and terrain.

[latent light]

what cpu and graphics card do you have

also are you running single channel or dual channel RAM?

[forest token]

"Intro to overclocking - Liquid Nitrogen Extreme Overclocking" well that escalated quickly

[latent light]

[spark folio]

@latent light I have an 8700k and a 1080ti ftw3

dual channel ram I have 32gb 3200 trident z rgb

[latent light]

does your GPU usage stay above 90% by any chance?

[spark folio]

let me fire it up real quick, i switched to median-xl because the framerate was bugging me

i do have a driver update on geforce experience, let me do that and see if that helps

@latent light only using 1987/5000mhz mem and cpu temps at 61c

textures are loading in late, almost like draw distance isn't working...

[latent light]

that's really weird

late textures and short draw distance?

[spark folio]

yeah and when I ads that triggers frame rate drop as well

the map with the farm and A is by the bridge, running by trees they were rendering bushes as I ran up to them and on the map that is downtown with the train the bricks where rendering late

i will just have to figure it out tomorrow. I need to get some sleep.

[short crypt]

https://www.power.dk/hoejttalere-og-lyd/soundbars/samsung-hw-n960-atmos-soundbar/p-950129/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8orl6qf83wIVWImyCh2mmQY7EAQYASABEgLuIvD_BwE

just ordered this, hope it's great 😄

[crude storm]

its good

[short crypt]

Nice can’t wait to hear it 😄

[livid osprey]

Ps4 Astro A50 which in game audio preset you guys recommend

[crude storm]

@short crypt this thing is a beast , very very loud

[short crypt]

Nice man cant wait to hear the Dolby Atmos

@crude storm

[mortal nacelle]

wtf si spend shit tons of money on a stupid monintor

now i can buy freesync mointor and use my gtx

on it

[lime pollen]

well

not exactly

they're implenting driver updates that practically attempt to use the adaptive sync software from your monitor to your gpu

and only like, 11 freesync monitors out of a tested 400 actually supported the technology for nvidia to use

for other freesync monitors, nvidia basically it's hit or miss if it works

also

navi expected to be announced in june for some reason during e3, but it might show up at Computex

[surreal gulch]

does anyone know why my frames are lower than usual constantly on battlefield v, i used to get 120-130 fps on ultra without RTX on but im only getting 65-80

[iron hemlock]

Updates?

probably

[surreal gulch]

everythings up to date

[steep gust]

@lime pollen They are trying to find the freesync monitors that function just like gsync, which is comparing software to physical solutions

VESA Adaptive Sync will work on any Nvidia card with the most recent driver, it should all work without issues

[lime pollen]

mmm

didn't know about that part

from the anecdotal

[steep gust]

gsync ranges is from 1hz to whatever the monitor is rated to

[lime pollen]

ah

[steep gust]

Freesync doesn't generally do that

[lime pollen]

bigger

though

navi is hopefully nothing scoff at

and I apparently have a freesync monitor

I can finally use it to its full potential

[hidden ermine]

@true bear sorry to ping you, but is there a certain DICE member who I should ask questions about RTX raytracing in game to?

Been having a few problems(game related not due to the GPU), and not sure who to ask.

[steep gust]

never ping Dice

[astral merlin]

@hidden ermine Please don’t ping DICE/EA staff if they are not involved in a current conversation.

[hidden ermine]

Oh sorry

@astral merlin are there any specific people I should approach for issues with tech?

[steep gust]

Google

Generally issues are not unique

[hidden ermine]

I know but this one is fucking annoying

[strong breach]

official websites are the best 😄

if you need help

nobody at dice or ea works through discord

[hidden ermine]

Oof

Well cheers lads

Sorry for the disruption

I mean I’ll really be sorry when this dev hacks my account or something

Takes all my B-Bucks

[mortal nacelle]

what is the problem

with ray ?

i got none on 2080ti

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3mCpblX7zs

overvolt an AMD stock fan, it flys like a drone

[steep gust]

Most fans don't have OVP

So lots can do that

[minor turret]

imagine sticking your finger in that

should test it with a sausage

[prime jasper]

what would be the RPM of the fan? duhh.

[solid horizon]

it actually wouldnt hurt your finger, theres not enough weight on the fan blades to do damage

[steep gust]

https://youtu.be/nAFB9w2Rh0Y?t=111

High RPM fans can cut

and you can buy 20k rpm fans

So yeah

[lofty light]

Freaking Linus

He gets all the cool stuff

[latent light]

DeepCool is a great company

[lofty light]

A......grate company?

[latent light]

[minor turret]

linus turned into tekashi69

he is only missing the tats on face

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3IxsXoVimU

rip 2070 users

[vagrant marsh]

someone already had the issue that he can't shoot after respawning ?

[steep gust]

I mean the 2070 still isn't a terrible buy

Now the 2080 is a big no

[latent light]

something happen to the 2080?

[steep gust]

Terrible price to performance

[latent light]

oof

[minor turret]

isnt 2070 hard to find for 500

and 2080 can be found for 650-700 dollars

[storm osprey]

ive seen 2070's for under 500

[minor turret]

nvm im wrong, i see muricans have enough 2070s

even the top bin 2070s for 500 usd + 3x fan

[steep gust]

Uh no

The properly binned GPU 2070s are gonna be $530+

and more like $550 so they can actually make money

Triple fan + factory overclock doesn't actually mean its one of the Nvidia binned GPUs

[minor turret]

oh okay

[latent light]

should Gigabyte graphics cards be avoided

[storm osprey]

i think of them as the best 2nd rate gpu brand

[latent light]

I don't think RMA is worth it

Gigabyte will probably test the card themselves on a nonreliable software to check for artifacts or crashes

like FurMark or some shit

I only see artifacts on discord and youtube

none on games

[minor turret]

does gigabyte even accept RMA on cards

i doubt it

they just guide you to your retailer

[steep gust]

retailers tell you to go through the manufacturer

[minor turret]

in europe retailers are the ones supposed to deal with it

according to gigabyte

[steep gust]

FurMark is fully reliable

If your shit can't pass FurMark, it ain't stable

and if your VRMs can't handle FurMark, you got ripped off

[latent light]

my VRAM causes artifacts on youtube and discord but no artifacts at all in games

maybe I should ultimately test my card through Witcher 3 ultra settings, try to make it use over 4GB of video memory

upscale the resolution too

[steep gust]

SuperPosition

It goes up to 8k

[latent light]

a month ago, the card would crash a lot in war thunder and sometimes in BFV

but it sorted itself out because it doesn't anymore

maybe windows downloaded something to fix it idk

because i didn't even try a different driver at that time

[steep gust]

War Thunder crashes randomly for me

I had to drop my overclock a lot

[latent light]

1080 Ti PCB

Vega 64 PCB

there is so much less components on the Vega 64

[covert heron]

i assume that vega has that HBM memory that takes up no space

since the inductors for the power circuitry are in the same location the dram chips usually go in that pic

is the HBM memory actually on the die?

[latent light]

I think so

yeah see those 2 dies under the main GPU die?

there's HBM2 DRAM dies stacked on top of each other to create two logic dies

like this

very innovated for AMD to develop this new tech and partner with Sk Hynix to take it even further

1GB of HBM (not HBM2) is significantly smaller than 1GB of GDDR5

I think HBM2 is even smaller

[covert heron]

at work i've had to solder a few chips that were several dies stacked on top of each other but it was only like an fr4 substrate + a sliicon die + an inductor on top

really cool way to save space but a pain in the ass to manufacture

hbm is really cool and the bandwidth is crazy

[latent light]

the Radeon VII has 1 TB/s bandwidth

[covert heron]

i wonder if its mostly due to the close proximity they're able to push it that high

[latent light]

HBM2 can offer up to 1 TB/s, GDDR6 is up to 768 GB/s

[covert heron]

its crazy how much a few mm matters at high speeds

[latent light]

HBM3 is an upcoming high speed memory and the successor of HBM2 memory. HBM3 memory will be faster, have lower power consumption and have increased capacity over HBM2 memory. HBM3 will allow up to 64GB VRAM on graphics cards and memory bandwidth of up to 512GB/s per stack. You can see the mass production and use of HBM3 memory by 2020,

[covert heron]

i guess its mostly due to the fact it has a really fat bus

like 1024bit vs 384 bit for ddr6

its crazy how fast tech advances

[minor turret]

tech has been stale past 8 or so years

gpu has had some nice stuff but its slowing down

[covert heron]

eh, it depends on what tech youre talking about. cpus kinda stagnated in 2012

as far as single thread performance increasing massively year over year

[latent light]

yeah GPUs are slowing down significantly

[covert heron]

but like memory and stuff is pretty insane, ssds getting close to reaching price parity with hdds soon

[latent light]

I can't wait to see how the Radeon VII overclocks tbh

[covert heron]

some of the craziest advances in tech imo has been with AI for stuff like image recognition

[minor turret]

ram has been pretty meh too tbh, with 3200cl14 theres like a 50% improvement over ddr3 2400

which is still good enough for games

[latent light]

Nvidia going from the GTX 200 series to the 400 series was their best innovative practice

700 to 900 was good too

[minor turret]

wasnt 400 still inferior to AMDs lineup?

gtx 780 is still viable today on low/med, pity mine died

[latent light]

look at the GTX 770 vs the GTX 970 for example
GTX 770 - 230 watts
GTX 970 - 150 watts - 50% faster

[covert heron]

yeah, thats another thing thats pretty crazy

the performance/power ratio

with the smaller mfg nodes

[minor turret]

userbenchmark is not the best, but it claims ~30% improvement

which is still decent

iirc 780 ti was godly because you could make that pass powerlimits hard and OC to a ridiculous degree

[latent light]

userbenchmark also claims that the 770 is 25% faster than the 1050 Ti but in games they perform the same

[minor turret]

D R I V E R O P T I M I Z A T I O N

F I N E

W I N E

[covert heron]

didnt the 780ti destroy the same generation Titan

in gaming at least

[latent light]

they were similar I think in performance

but the 780 Ti was $300 cheaper

[covert heron]

$300 cheaper and a much higher clock iirc but i didnt own one of those

still had two 770s

dont SLI btw

[latent light]

Titan cards have always been disappointing for gamers

all of them

[minor turret]

780 ti boost clock was 928, but with tweaks you could boost that to 1200-1300 mhz with custom bios and few other tweaks

insane performance gain to be had

[latent light]

my 770 only does +80 core overclock lol

[minor turret]

you need proper cooling (esp vrm) and custom bios

to boost that shit skyhigh

apparantly memory was also extremely overclockable

at 1200 OC thats a solid 30% gain from OC

makes current cards peanuts in comparison

[covert heron]

my 980ti overclocked pretty well up to 1480 up from 1075 reference boost clock

[minor turret]

@covert heron if boost clock, did you hardmod?

[covert heron]

my 3770k was also a gold chip i could hit 4.8 on air with hardly any voltage boost while my friend who bought one same day at the same store couldnt get his past 4.2 no matter how much voltage

[minor turret]

oh its 980ti, thought you were talking about 780 ti

[covert heron]

my 8700k wont overclock for shit though

im kinda tempted to delid it and try

apparently delidding these makes a pretty huge difference on thermals, like ~20C

it was kinda nuts though that i bought that 3770k in q2 of 2012 and there literally wasn't anything worth the cost of upgrading til that 8700k came out

a full 6 years

[buoyant rover]

Friendly reminder that clock speeds are only relevant within the same architecture

[minor turret]

ofc

[covert heron]

i mean yeah, but you can still compare % increase over stock clock

but prior to 2012 you saw pretty massive single threaded performance increase year over year

like 50-100% sometimes

then from like 2012-2016 it was like 30%

a 6 year old pc in 2012 was borderline unusable

[lofty light]

I got a 5820K

And it's still chugging along with only a 1 sec 4.0Ghz overclock on it

[latent light]

5820K was surprisingly popular

figured when it came out, everyone was still going to get the 4790K

[lofty light]

I wanted the 6 cores and the Asus Sabertooth mobo

Such a sexy mobo

[latent light]

X99?

[lofty light]

Yups

[lime pollen]

[terse steeple]

uwu

[latent light]

[lofty light]

It's got a freaking huge metal backplate too so it weighs a ton

[unborn epoch]

U so stronk

[nimble tartan]

my game is tucking on

resuming bf5

fucking stuck on

and when It was downloading it was stuck at 700kbps

Any fixes?

[lofty light]

It'll go up and down in the download probs

Check in the settings if there's a limit on downloads and if your local network is hammered

[steady wasp]

heck is happening with origin client

games keep disconnecting from ongoing matches

[keen forge]

https://imgur.com/q7gZCMY

That's probably what

Literally everyone in europe is complaining, don't worry @steady wasp

[steady wasp]

uh . . .i see that germany is on fire..

badum tss

[storm osprey]

booo

get off the stage

[steady wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[manic vessel]

so i downloaded the trial version you get with origin basic access (10 hour version) but it wont let me play anything multiplayer?

also direct 12 wasnt on

[latent light]

😄

[wet notch]

lol

[prime jasper]

guys

life or death decision here

[steep gust]

The trial editions have restrictions

[prime jasper]

razer deathadder elite or logitech G502

[steep gust]

aka to stop hackers

G502

[prime jasper]

why

[steep gust]

Razer is kinda overpriced and the build quality can be less than ideal

[molten coral]

to stop hackers? lmao what has a mouse to do with hackers.

[steep gust]

trial editions

[molten coral]

[latent light]

G502 doesn't feel like a good hand shape

gaps in the chassis

[steep gust]

I love my G502

but i have big hands

[latent light]

deathadder is for big hands too

[steep gust]

The best way to compare mice is to test them

tbh

[molten coral]

I've a G502 but I don't have palm grip

so I don't really feel the gaps tbh

Got a spider grip

[steep gust]

I have a weird combination of palm, claw, and fingertip depending on what I'm doing

[molten coral]

This is how I hold my mouse

and yes i've big hands

[steep gust]

Clean your mousepad

[molten coral]

Put it once a month in the washingmachine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor turret]

there were many ragehackers using trial accounts

[latent light]

https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management-doesnt-want-nvidia-support-in-macos-and-thats-a-bad-sign-for-the-mac-pro

oof

Apple and Nvidia aren't getting along

[storm osprey]

@molten coral jesus you make the g502 look small

[prime jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351121939831586819/443112427471634432/tumblr_n1x135iZX01shjug6o1_400.gif

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlKDJfRRaY @steep gust

12 core and 16 core AM4 CPUs confirmed

💪

that's all we know about confirmation, don't know core clocks, cache, or TDP yet

[steep gust]

"confirmed"

boy those CPUs were suppose to be announced at CES

[sonic osprey]

nothing is confirmed until amd says that they are coming

[terse steeple]

im poor

[lofty light]

Hi poor, I'm dad

[sonic osprey]

You are on the internet, you cant be poor

Poor people dont have clean drinking water or electricity

[lofty light]

I'm poor, because I can't afford two 2080Ti's

Or a 9990XE

[lime pollen]

navi when

[crude storm]

is there even an sli profile which would run with bfv?

[steep gust]

Yes

You just have to use DX11

[latent light]

does DX12 support NVlink?

[vocal vapor]

No it does not at least on bfv

But not sure tho

[prime jasper]

Premium >Life service

[split storm]

Agreed

[latent light]

@steep gust my friend is scared that the AIO he bought will freeze over because he lives in canada and the package is on his door step in the cold but he's at work and can't do anything about it

[buoyant rover]

@latent light The liquid is probably something akin to anti-freeze

so I doubt that

that is to say, it is not water

[latent light]

it's a deepcool captain 360EX

[buoyant rover]

your friend better not be on a i5 tho

or I'll shit

[latent light]

he's actually prepping parts for next gen Ryzen

he bought a psu, case and aio so far

he's currently got a i5-7400 prebuilt system

[buoyant rover]

That's pretty insane considering we don't know really how it performs

[latent light]

but he's not going to use that aio on his i5-7400 lol

[buoyant rover]

I mean it'll be better than current Ryzen, and current Ryzen is pretty good so I guess it ain't the worst thing ever

what PSU did he buy?

[latent light]

RM750X white

[buoyant rover]

well that's pretty good

[latent light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398724150845505538/537765102904934413/20190123_062730.jpg

[buoyant rover]

a big premium (like 2x the price) to get the white one

[latent light]

picture of it he sent me

[buoyant rover]

but it'll last 10 years so still not bad

[latent light]

comes with white cables and even combs lol

[buoyant rover]

what case

[latent light]

some Lian Li case

[buoyant rover]

un-conventional but they are usually a solid company

[latent light]

in CAD btw

that case is good for the price

[steep gust]

PSU isn't

just buy white extensions

[latent light]

ryzen doesn't have very many white motherboards

[steep gust]

White PCBs are very rare nowadays

[latent light]

he wants a X470 but I told him to wait for X570

[steep gust]

Good

Now high end X470 and X570 won't have much difference in feature set

but might as well wait

[latent light]

since X370 maxed out at 2933 MHz compatibility and X470 does 3466, wonder what X570 will do

[steep gust]

Nothing more

Few X470 boards do 3466 with decent timings

[latent light]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8dwn83/4000mhz_ram_with_2700x/

MSI X470 M7 doing 4000 MHz at CL14

probably at 1.5v or higher

[steep gust]

yeah that isn't stable or safe

That might be benchmark stable and its using 1.65v

Which will kill the sticks

[lofty light]

But the numbers look nice for 0.1 seconds

[latent light]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64459/lenovo-legion-y27gq-worlds-first-1440p-240hz-gaming-screen/index.html

1440p 240hz

[sly axle]

Anyone have problem with bfv not being able to deploy?

[forest token]

yes, people in #battlefield-legacy-titles talking about origin problems

[sly axle]

Squad member icons are black, stuck at deploy overview

ok, thank you

[shut zephyr]

Hey guys, 1011101010110101010101010111011010101010111010101010101111010?

[sonic osprey]

01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101111 00100000 01110011 01100101 01101110 01110011 01100101

[turbid verge]

No, back to English

[lime pollen]

recent navi leaks ahhhhhh

[unborn epoch]

Don't get too hyped.

[lime pollen]

and why's that

[sonic osprey]

gonna take like 6months until they will release any navi cards, most likely until closer to 2020

[lime pollen]

I did say earlier that it would probably show up at Computex

[quartz whale]

Yeah

[minor turret]

as soon as i see a 1080 ti for 400 bux or less ill probably buy that

and stay on it for next 3 years

[lime pollen]

that's a literal dream

[minor turret]

no its not, saw one already for that amount but was sold locally

[storm osprey]

oh used sure

[vapid pebble]

I got mine new for 660 shipped. That was lowest Ive seen in a long time. It went right back up after that due to shortages.

[minor turret]

oh hell will freeze before you get 1080 ti for below 400 usd retail

[livid crown]

freeze and an application close with zero errors

[latent light]

pretty common crash for BFV

it's game related

[covert heron]

happened to me when i destroyed the gnome house by point A on arras

lol

just back at desktop instantly with no error code

[keen forge]

Might be an overclock thing - I get that a lot but only if I overclock. Did the audio 'tear' then the game freeze and crash @livid crown?

[livid crown]

no audio, just a freeze then 5 seconds later, nice desktop. It's so random, did it before first game, then i've just played 8 rounds and no crash.

[latent light]

internet is so slow that discord took over a minute to boot

and it took 15 seconds for this message to send

I think I'd rather have an old office PC with Intel HD graphics than slow internet that can't even play online games

[turbid dove]

Is there a huge difference in performance with streaming between i5 8400 & i7 8700?

[latent light]

in streaming, yes

8700 would be more consistent

[dim mirage]

^

streaming tends to favour more threads. Generally I'd recommend Ryzen for it.

[lofty light]

I'd recommend ryzen for anyone looking at i5s

But if you can get a good i7 the perf is better

[sonic osprey]

for streaming, using cpu with less than 8 cores is not recommended, it is far better to use nvenc for streaming to get same quality that the 6core variant could produce with decent fps on fast x264

with 9900k I can play ow at 280+fps, while streaming 1080p/60 on high/medium x264

[buoyant rover]

@sonic osprey yeah but the 9900k is also a meme CPU

not fit for gaming anyway

Most streamers have 2 PCs for this because it's overall better

trying to buy a CPU to both game and stream is just inefficient and rarely works

[sonic osprey]

:D? not fit for gaming ?

[buoyant rover]

yes

not fit for gaming

[sonic osprey]

:DDDD

[buoyant rover]

9700k is the same performance

Actually

9700k is usually better performance

because it requires a fuck ton less cooling than the 9900k

[sonic osprey]

it depends

nope

[buoyant rover]

yep

you're not going to argue against cold hard fbenchmarks

[sonic osprey]

it depends on the fucking game

[buoyant rover]

It doesn't

no game uses 8 cores

[sonic osprey]

if they can utilize threads or physical cores

[buoyant rover]

there are like 3 that can

so yes in those 3 games

[sonic osprey]

still 9900k > 9700k

[buoyant rover]

Not for gaming

Waste of money

[sonic osprey]

for gaming too

[buoyant rover]

Why not a HEDT then?

[sonic osprey]

too low clockspeeds

[buoyant rover]

They're higher than the 9900k?

or equal?

What do you think the 9900k is?

It's a rebranded HEDT chip

[sonic osprey]

umm no

[buoyant rover]

umm yes

[sonic osprey]

umm no

[buoyant rover]

kbye

[sonic osprey]

:DDD

[buoyant rover]

xdxdxd

For everyone else reading this, you obviously should not be buying a 9900k for gaming

It has minimal gains over a 9700k or even a 8600k in gaming performance

[lofty light]

Lol

[buoyant rover]

you're just paying a fat premium for no fucking reason

[pallid silo]

ryzen 7 1700 can do 720p 60fps x264 medium ez pz

[sonic osprey]

someone is butthurt

[lofty light]

It has benefits, but it's like buying a 2080ti

[buoyant rover]

At the very least

If you're going to spend money like it's air

[lofty light]

It's best for gaming for sure but it's not price perf

[buoyant rover]

at least make sure you have a 2080ti

before you spend on a 9900k

so at least you have an actual performance card backing up the well beyond diminishing returns CPU

FPS is within 1% of the 9700k @lofty light

[lofty light]

Show me

[sonic osprey]

well ofc they are because the are GPU bound on the tests

[buoyant rover]

no

[sonic osprey]

for crying out loud

[buoyant rover]

it is just well beyond diminishing returns

[sonic osprey]

they are not capping the cpu load

in ANY of the tests

[buoyant rover]

one example

https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2018/cpus/9700k/intel-i7-9700K-f1-2018-1440p.png

Yes, because games don't fucking use 16 threads. @sonic osprey

You gain nothing over a 9700k

[sonic osprey]

1440p / high

gpu bound

[lofty light]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3421-intel-i7-9700k-review-benchmark-vs-8700k-and-more

Hmmmmm

[buoyant rover]

let's say one thing

If you're playing at 1080p

on a fucking 9900k

you're plainly retarded

flat out

[sonic osprey]

what the fuck, ofc you game on 1080p to max out fps

are you some filthy casual triple AAA gamer on console?

[buoyant rover]

Do you have a 240hz monitor? @sonic osprey

[lofty light]

Unless you have a rig that can power more than 240

[buoyant rover]

Because last I checked

[lofty light]

They've just got the 2k 240hz monitors now

[buoyant rover]

you dion't need a 9900k

to drive 240hz 1080p

[sonic osprey]

144hz is enough for the time being, the 1440p 240hz might be interesting upgrade though

[buoyant rover]

yes

[sonic osprey]

but better get 2 2080ti for that

[buoyant rover]

and there is no game a 9900k gets 144hz that a 9700k doesn't

or a 8600k for crying out loud

[sonic osprey]

so

who gives a shit, you cant drive on a car more than 65mph on most streets

[buoyant rover]

So like I said

If you buy a 9900k to just game on

[sonic osprey]

so you are butt hurt that someone buys the best cpu?

[buoyant rover]

You are ignorant or just want to flex on people who don't give a shit

[lofty light]

Lol

[buoyant rover]

You can pick for yourself

[lofty light]

Like you're flexing on us with your superior knowledge and choices?

[buoyant rover]

That's not a flex

At all

[lofty light]

Lol

K

[buoyant rover]

that's me making sure people don't read that shit

and think that's a good idea

Did your teacher flex on you by teaching you Math? @lofty light

Thought so

[lofty light]

Lol

[buoyant rover]

[lofty light]

So now you're our wise teacher

How humble

[buoyant rover]

Maybe not yours

[sonic osprey]

just curious what cpu are you using turboclicker

[lofty light]

8600

[buoyant rover]

I wish

I'm on a modest 1600\

[sonic osprey]

ah, makes sense now

[buoyant rover]

yeah it sucks having sense

[lofty light]

Price perf boy there then

[buoyant rover]

I know you have more money than sense

so it's hard

[lofty light]

Lol

[sonic osprey]

I mean price difference between 9700k and 9900k is like what? 80-100euros?

[lofty light]

don't worry kids I'll teach you the right way to live

[sonic osprey]

also saying that games dont use more than 8 threads, well maybe for the time being, but people buying the top end gear will use their cpus for more than 2 years easily

[buoyant rover]

If you are buying for the long term

You're also a tard

[sonic osprey]

:D?

[buoyant rover]

If you can tell me how games are going to work in 5 years

Go right ahead

[sonic osprey]

so you keep buying some discount cpu every year then?

[lofty light]

It's almost like games are showing trends of using more and more threads

[buoyant rover]

but I know full well that both of us do not know where that's going

@lofty light Oh really?

Everything shows the opposite

Very few games use even 6 threads

Nonetheless fucking 16

The 9900k will be slow and old by the time games are consistently using 16 threads

[lofty light]

It's almost like back in the day nothing used more than the 4 threads of an i5, but now they use enough for hyperthreading to be useful

[sonic osprey]

umm r6 siege is using all cores and threads if I put them up on afterburner

[buoyant rover]

#doubt

[lofty light]

Hmmmmm

[buoyant rover]

I also play siege

[sonic osprey]

on 60fps i think

[buoyant rover]

[sonic osprey]

[buoyant rover]

1600 can drive 144fps on siege like cake

Siege is GPU dependent like almost every other game

You're trying to flex but all you're doing is tiring yourself out

My whole argument was that you don't buy a 9900k to just play games

and you don't

[sonic osprey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTbLCZxMPo&t=10m0s

[buoyant rover]

If you play games and have something on the side that actually uses those threads sure

[lofty light]

Same argument for Titan cards

[sonic osprey]

if you only play games, just get a console

[lofty light]

They're expensive af but they'll do the job better

[buoyant rover]

@sonic osprey Oh? what do you do

[sonic osprey]

compiling lots of c++ code

[buoyant rover]

I'm sure you needed a 9900k to compile C++

[sonic osprey]

takes about 40minutes to compile the stuff I work on my work laptop

takes about 7-10minutes on 9900k

im not talking about some shit ball small scale c++ development

there is like 60k+ header files in the solution

compiled simultaneously on like ~60-70 c/c++ compiler processes

[buoyant rover]

Then congrats

[sonic osprey]

and hundreds of developers pushing stuff in daily for like 100+ commits

[buoyant rover]

you still fit what I said

[sonic osprey]

you do too :D

gz on 1600, best value ever

[buoyant rover]

I still fit what I said?

It is quite good value

I expect to go 2-3 more years without needing an upgrade

You know, especially since the 1600 was what made Intel go to 6 core i5s

they'd still be selling 4 core processsors if it wasn't for AMD releasing the 1600/1700

[lofty light]

Cool

[buoyant rover]

Thanks

[sonic osprey]

ding ding ding we have amd fan value over performance

[buoyant rover]

No I would love to have a 9900k

if I didn't bend over and let Intel have a turn with my brownstar before I get it

It isn't even about value

[lofty light]

Ah, now I see why you dislike it

[sonic osprey]

well for me it its like 1 day of work

to pay for it

[buoyant rover]

I'm proud

truly

@lofty light I have nothing against the 9900k

just like I have nothing against hammers

[lofty light]

Exactly, but you hate Intel

[buoyant rover]

I don't

I think I know better than you what I dislike and like

but who knows, maybe you know more about me

[lofty light]

I do

[prime jasper]

is that a wedding vow?

[lofty light]

Yes

The ring is a 9900K

[buoyant rover]

Like I was saying, easier example, I don't have anything against say, a excavator

but if you buy a excavator to dig a hole for your tomato plants you might be a bit mental

and if you buy a 9900k to play video games you probably are too

[prime jasper]

💒

[lofty light]

However, you ignore the point that the 9900K does show better perf than others and is best ATM so it has an argument for just gaming

If an excavator is going to do it faster for more expensive and you can afford it why not?

[buoyant rover]

That gamersnexus link shows all I need to say

9900k is 1-5% better

If you're willing to pay 20% more (that's just for the CPU, you'll be paying a lot for that cooling too) for a 9900k then ok, do you

and when prices drop on the i7s again it will be closer to 40%

[lofty light]

As I said before, it's the same as a Titan card

[latent light]

9900K is a good CPU for game streaming

[buoyant rover]

I realize recently people have opted to switch to a singular PC setup

but it's still not efficient

[latent light]

it's one of the best options if you want to record BFV at 1080p 60 fps

[buoyant rover]

dual PC stream setup is still much more efficient

[latent light]

9700K does get slightly higher performance in games

[buoyant rover]

that it does

At least unless you can actually overclock the 9900k past 5Ghz with your cooling

and good fucking luck at that

[lofty light]

IMO if you're spending the money for a 9900K you shouldn't be cheaping out on the cooling anyway

[buoyant rover]

It's not even cheaping out

You need top of the line cooling to overclock a 9900k

A "Pretty good" cooler won't do it

[latent light]

yeah some dude on war thunder discord got a 9900K and he can't get to 5 GHz stable on it with a 360mm AIO

[lofty light]

Hell I got a 2080ti and put a huge rad on it

[buoyant rover]

9700k is still hot

but it ain't that fucking hot

[sonic osprey]

my 9900k is stable at 5ghz on 240mm rad, not an aio though

gonna be 240+360 when i get my waterblocked 2080ti, then some some oc is gonna happen most definately

[buoyant rover]

So you mean you custom looped it

[sonic osprey]

ofc, and gonna get the direct die frame from der8auer

[buoyant rover]

You pretty much have to custom loop to get 5Ghz

[lofty light]

And that's what you should be doing if you're spending the money on a 9900K

[latent light]

you do any glass bending for the tubes?

[buoyant rover]

Idk why people still think AIOs are actually enough

[lofty light]

It's a halo product

[buoyant rover]

when they're just equivalent to high end air

and that's if it's a decent AIO

[sonic osprey]

nah just soft tubing

still 2 weeks for the 2080ti though until I can stuff the gear in the define s2

[latent light]

GTX 1660 Ti and 1660 are confirmed

but what the fuck is that naming

[lofty light]

They want to confuse everyone even more

[latent light]

resident evil 2 is utilizing 11.5 GB vram if you max out the settings

[lofty light]

Lol

[latent light]

maybe 16GB of vram is relevant

[lofty light]

AMD saw it coming after all

[pliant lintel]

Who know how to fix the single story?

[lofty light]

I prefer to fix the multi story

[pliant lintel]

what it mean??

[steep gust]

@buoyant rover because a 280mm AIO beats out every air cooler on the market

A D15 is about equal to a meh 240mm

[lofty light]

This is what my boss sent on our company Facebook page

[minor turret]

Pretty sure d15 is beating pretty much every 240mm over 30-60 minutes

unless some new one popped out in last year or so

as in every 240mm asetek cooler

[lofty light]

I did notice a drop in perf when I swapped from my D15 to a 240 rad

[minor turret]

asetek coolers have like 60L/H pumpthroughput

[lofty light]

But it's good not having a gigantic stack of blades that cut me up every time I access the computer

[tepid river]

why isnt rivatuner or msi afterburner fps osd not working on bf v?

[sonic osprey]

did you add the elements to osd and hit the checkbox?

https://gyazo.com/d5bc62570546c8908fd0b30753110e04

[tepid river]

yes

it was working beofre

before

[sonic osprey]

and its also toggled in rivatuner to show the osd?

[tepid river]

yes

wait

im gonna reinstall it

[stable trail]

hello !

whan i want to start a game i have this error

https://gyazo.com/c6e12fa7529fda764529ee5381977fa7

any idea?

error code : -34601

[storm osprey]

would help if we could read it for more info

otherwise id just google that number

[stable trail]

its in the screenshot an error occured : code -34601

impossible to log in a game :c

[chilly sorrel]

im getting the same thing @stable trail

[stable trail]

😮

[chilly sorrel]

however it works if i use the server browser, instead of quick match

[stable trail]

so its maybe a serv error

[chilly sorrel]

yea i think so

[stable trail]

ty btw

[chilly sorrel]

np

[pallid silo]

does anyone know how to update lenovo g700 drivers? i have never updated anything apart from windows updates

[storm osprey]

just go to lenovo, look for drivers, and match models and dl that

[crude storm]

servers down

boyoboy

[pallid silo]

i remember when ccleaner got hacked ages ago is it okay to use it still

[steep gust]

I just want a Meshify C that is slightly larger

So I can fit longer GPUs, a 360mm radiator in the front, and a 280mm+ in the top

It only needs like 2in more

Oh and proper E-ATX support, might as well add integrated water cooling (fill / drain)

[latent light]

lol

[steep gust]

OH

and hinges

It looks leagues cleaner

[storm osprey]

@trail cypress my friend runs bfv off a 6300, 16gb ram, and a 1050ti

[latent light]

$400 for a Vega 64 is pretty tempting

[trail cypress]

I have 16gb ram and a 1060 6gb

[storm osprey]

so, youre already at a better spot than him

[trail cypress]

i told you my cpu

what settings does he play on ? and what average frames does he get ?

[steep gust]

Meshify C Extreme or whatever dumb shit they would call it (Meshify X)

360mm x2 rad support, 25mm+ thickness

300-320mm GPU support with 50-75mm clearance for fans + rad

E-ATX support

Uh hinges for the side panel

Metal front panel

Fill / drain ports

Might as well add RGB

Add $50 for RGB alone (because muh RGB)

[storm osprey]

@trail cypress i just now pmed him, doubt he even knows, he hardly pays attention to fps and probably doesnt have a counter on

[steep gust]

oof

[trail cypress]

(On bf1 i mainly play everything low, except mesh quality on ultra)

[steep gust]

so sub 60fps with big drops

[latent light]

why does the RX 580 crush the GTX 1060 6GB in BFV

[storm osprey]

dx11 or dx12?

[steep gust]

and overclocks?

[latent light]

in both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5H2Z72lJs&

for example

[trail cypress]

@storm osprey i diabled dx12

heard it gives better performance but i dunno

[steep gust]

DX12 > DX11

[storm osprey]

i suggest trying it, idk if theres a hard rule for dx

for me dx12 is better

[steep gust]

as long as your GPU ain't like

5 years old

[latent light]

DX12 utilizes multicore performance more than DX11 I think

[steep gust]

DX12 will generally perform better

aka does it still get driver updates

[storm osprey]

just try both

[trail cypress]

It doesn't say dx11 anywhere

[buoyant rover]

@steep gust Pascal GPUs generally perform better on DX11

[steep gust]

not in my experience

I got much more stable performance on DX12 on my 1080

[trail cypress]

how do you change to dx11 ?

[steep gust]

Now DX12 in BFV doesn't support multi GPU so that can be an issue

[storm osprey]

beta looks like 50 fps average https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r63PwhibN4

[minor turret]

@trail cypress the 45-65 fps figure i gave requires decent ram. Id say 1866+ with decent timings

[trail cypress]

yeah, when i play i get like 40-70 fps

depends on how much stuff is going on

[minor turret]

You base your figure on what you get in firefights and when being bombed

looking at a wall means nothing

[keen forge]

I feel like you should be getting more than that as a 1060 seeing as i'm pretty sure my old 1050ti performed better than that

[latent light]

DX12 is really great with Pascal and Polaris

and Vega

[minor turret]

@keen forge battlefield is cpu capped most of the time

[keen forge]

Thought so, what's his CPU again?

[minor turret]

fx 6350

[trail cypress]

I run everything on low except mesh quality.

[latent light]

DX11 is recommended if you have GTX 900 series or lower tbh

[trail cypress]

and still get massive fps drops, 'sometimes'

[latent light]

although DX12 support on Maxwell is decent

[keen forge]

fx 6350, 16gb and a 1060?

[trail cypress]

yeah

[storm osprey]

1060 6gb

[minor turret]

dx12 is pretty buggy even for 1xxx cards

on bfv

only reason to use dx12 with 1070 is to disable future frame rendering

[keen forge]

Nothing beats the AMD visual bug where player outlines stay on your screen during bleedout time

[trail cypress]

When i try and play operations, Its pretty much unplayable, stays at like 30 fps the whole time

[latent light]

Fx-6350 will get low performance on BFV

[trail cypress]

I figured

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqrvF9MJfM&

Fx-8350 is capable of 60 fps

mainly because more cores

[keen forge]

The fx series isn't incredible gaming - TMK they're designed more for workstations

[minor turret]

It could also be the 1866 ram

in bench you linked

[latent light]

the difference between the Fx series and Ryzen is stellar lol

[keen forge]

It is

[minor turret]

it is, but even overwatch soaks up ram and bfv is worse

[keen forge]

Zen was a big step for AMD

[storm osprey]

now just wait for this summer

[latent light]

Fx-8350 to a Ryzen 5 1600 is like 40% difference in IPC

[keen forge]

Zen 2: Electric boogaloo was a big improvement too

[latent light]

people were saying that Zen+ 12nm isn't true 12nm

[trail cypress]

What would be a good cpu that is not extremely expensive that could run bfv smoothly ? (70fps +)

[keen forge]

1400

[storm osprey]

what is it? 12.35 nm?!

[keen forge]

1600?

[latent light]

Ryzen 5 1400, if you don't want to overclock maybe a 2400G or 1500X

[keen forge]

Seeing as zen 2 is out and zen 3 is coming soon, might be smart to wait. When it comes out you can probably bag yourself a super cheap 1600+

[storm osprey]

granted, anything you get is gonna require a new platform

[latent light]

I have a 1600, amazing core and thread count

[storm osprey]

so youre getting a mb and ram

[latent light]

I'm future proof for a long time with this cpu

[storm osprey]

the only thing you can do cheap is get an 8350

[keen forge]

I have my old 1600 sitting around - probably the best price to performance. I don't get a massive amount more out of my 1800x

[latent light]

yeah an 8350 is the cheapest upgrade although you could get a 9370 if you have a good cooler and your power supply has the wattage

[minor turret]

tbh bagging a 1600 when much fabled 3500x 8 core 5 ghz comes out

seems foolish

[latent light]

or you can get the 8370

[keen forge]

@minor turret 1600 will go super cheap once zen 3 is out

And it's an amazing cpu

[latent light]

1600 max overclock is 3.9 GHz, 4GHz if you're lucky

[trail cypress]

So best option is a AMD Ryzen 5 1600 ?

[minor turret]

exactly, a 3500x 8 core 5 ghz boost overclockable to 5.3 ghz inc

have faith

[latent light]

@trail cypress you will need a new motherboard and RAM for Ryzen

it's a whole new platform

[keen forge]

Yes @trail cypress but you also need an AM4 mobo

[trail cypress]

shit

[keen forge]

Which is the problem with upgrading

[trail cypress]

am good

[minor turret]

Tbh if there ever was a time to buy ddr4 its now, preferrably before 3xxx is released

[trail cypress]

i know i would have to replace my ram, but forgot bout motherboard

[storm osprey]

@trail cypress what we really need is a budget

[trail cypress]

£200 ?

Im out of work rn

[storm osprey]

even then, suggestions are probably to wait as long as you can for ryzen 3

[latent light]

you're only option with your current platform is the Fx-8370 or the Fx-8350 @trail cypress

[keen forge]

Are DDR4 prices acceptable now? I bought my RAM when RAM was super expensive so I bought 1 stick of 8 and waited until it was cheaper

[storm osprey]

ram atm is usually 16gb around 3000mhz at 120 bucks

[keen forge]

Goddamn

[minor turret]

Prices in norway for non b-die is around 60% of what it previously was

[latent light]

you can get G.Skill Aegis 3000 MHz 2x8GB for $100

[minor turret]

b-die barely dropped

[trail cypress]

lol pc's so expensive its bs

[keen forge]

stonezy you can get a 1600 and a mobo for £200, but not your RAM

[storm osprey]

https://gyazo.com/b9d67d76a181b8c4e25eafc251ab2e33

[keen forge]

IIR my mobo prices correctly

[latent light]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-vs-AMD-FX-6350-Six-Core/3931vsm713

even a Ryzen 3 kills a Fx-6350

[minor turret]

with 200 usd budget

[keen forge]

Ryzen really was a game changer

[minor turret]

you wait and suffer with dogshit rig

for 3xxx gen

[keen forge]

£200 is is $260

But yeah

[latent light]

hopefully the rumors are true of Ryzen 3rd gen having 6 core cpu for $100

[keen forge]

I'm sorry what's that now?

[latent light]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/AdoredTV.png

the supposed leaks

[keen forge]

Base 3.2 as well? My word it's just a 1600 xD

[latent light]

it's basically a 1600 but $50 cheaper

lol

[keen forge]

That's crazy

[latent light]

also 50W tdp

[keen forge]

Big if true

[minor turret]

3600x boosting to 4.8 ghz 💤

pls bin less amd

[keen forge]

That's 4.3

Oh wait I can't read

[minor turret]

btw if those specs are true - GL finding any AMD cpu for sale

[latent light]

tbh Ryzen 7 with 12 cores is too much

10 would make more sense

[minor turret]

it will be like GPU market during mining boom

[trail cypress]

will probs just end up going for a fx 8370 or 8350. Even if it doesn't improve performance, I need a new cpu anyway as my 6350 is on the verge of dying as i have had it since launch pretty much.

[keen forge]

I wish games utilised higher core counts better

[latent light]

I'd be happy if they just gave Ryzen 3 hyperthreading lol

[storm osprey]

8350 is like minimum for decent 60fps so youre good with it

[keen forge]

@trail cypress https://www.cclonline.com/product/202110/FD8370FRHKHBX/CPU-Processors/AMD-FX-8-Core-FX-8370-4-0GHz-Processor-16MB-Processor-in-a-Box-/CPU0410/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAhKviBRCNARIsAAGZ7CfbtGw44VH8TuHrSFH6aoOTcYouc1aesKpnLtrOmp2AyG20FQKumToaAu30EALw_wcB

[trail cypress]

which is better ?