technology

[mortal nacelle]

never drops below 85

[latent light]

you got G-sync though so it still will look smooth anyway

[mortal nacelle]

it got the fps thing in the croner

Still a fucking good card

worth every penny i got it for

[latent light]

tbh not worth $1,200+ considering it's $500 more than a 1080 Ti was on launch for around 30% more performance

kind of a lousy generation

DLSS is the most impressive thing

but that's just upscaling

[mortal nacelle]

But if you never payed that 😉

[latent light]

then again, I've spent $2,400 on a guitar amp

[mortal nacelle]

for you

my country tech is cheap ❤

[latent light]

idk man, USA gets the cheapest deals on tech

[mortal nacelle]

only 2000 usd here

[sonic osprey]

@latent light I already have 32:9 144hz monitor

[latent light]

I thought you had the Samsung 49" 32:9 monitor

which is 60hz

[sonic osprey]

its 144

[latent light]

oh I guess the only difference is that the ASUS one is 1440p

[sonic osprey]

gl getting 144fps on "5k" monitor

[latent light]

lol

[sonic osprey]

because it has nearly same amount of pixels as 16:9 5k

[mortal nacelle]

its just a monitor

just pew pew dudes

[molten coral]

I rather have the 49" by samsung than from ASUS. The one from asus is probably gonna cost 1500 and my PC wouldn't be able to handle a "5k" monitor.

[mortal nacelle]

😮

i just want nacho

with alot of cheddar

[latent light]

4K 144hz exists, but now where is 1440p 240hz?

[mortal nacelle]

[strong breach]

is it even worth going to 240hz

144hz frametime is already 6.9ms

240hz is 4.1ms

[mortal nacelle]

Go 1000hz

OLED

on you tv D:

[strong breach]

imagine paying so much extra just get a 2.8ms difference

[mortal nacelle]

that was me speaking out my ass is there even tv there is 1000 hz ?

[buoyant rover]

no

[mental hatch]

Typically anything past 160hz just comes down to if you can see it because it's not very noticeable

[strong breach]

yea that's what i thought

[mortal nacelle]

and with freesyn or g-syn

you really don't see it

[latent light]

60hz is 16.67ms between each frame, 144hz is 7ms between each frame, 165hz is like 6ms, 240hz is 4ms

tbh over 120hz is hardly noticeable

[buoyant rover]

will vary from person to person

and vary heavily on the game

[latent light]

racing games are easy to distinguish

[strong breach]

any fast paced game

[balmy finch]

Remember that a lot of it boils down to the individual panel too. 144hz can be frivolous if the panel itself doesn't like updating that quickly

[latent light]

drive 200 mph in a racing game on a 144hz monitor then try a 240hz

will be easy to see

[mortal nacelle]

Drive 200mph in real life

and you loss you licens

😦

[latent light]

😦

I was surprised to see the difference between 60hz and 75hz

it was actually a decent jump

[mortal nacelle]

i allways used 60hz

and then i changes to 144hz

OMFG

[balmy finch]

It's like night and day right?

[mortal nacelle]

i hate my self for never going 144hz for my 1080p

Indeed

it was like havning sex first time

[balmy finch]

Aiming feels so floaty on my old 60hz panel

[latent light]

I hate playing at 60hz without V-sync

[mortal nacelle]

i can never go back to 60hz

[latent light]

like if I'm at 100 fps but I'm on a 60hz monitor, there will be tearing and the frametimes are jittery

V-sync on and the frames are consistent

[mortal nacelle]

its should be illegel to sell 60hz mointors

[storm osprey]

vsyc... ew

[strong breach]

https://gfycat.com/OldfashionedWildEyra

less go

[latent light]

[storm osprey]

you monster

[mortal nacelle]

😭

you are a evil son of a beep

[buoyant rover]

@mortal nacelle not everyone has the GPU to drive 144

[mortal nacelle]

a 1070 should be able to do that

in 1080p

[latent light]

only ~10% of gamers own a monitor that has over 60hz

[buoyant rover]

@mortal nacelle a 1070 is also a fairly high end card

or was anyway

[sonic osprey]

i am actually thinking of getting 240hz 1080p gaming monitor

and have my 49" above it

with a wall mount

[latent light]

LG is making an All-In-One PC in ultrawide

[sonic osprey]

useful for meeting rooms, but not much else

[mortal nacelle]

8gb ram

who run that now days 😮

[latent light]

80% of people

lol

[mortal nacelle]

so sad

what a sad world

[minor turret]

lol nvidia freesync validation requires it to be available by default

hence why like 12/200 monitors pass

going into OSD and manually flicking it on

= does not pass

[latent light]

12/450*

[balmy finch]

That's shitty

[prime jasper]

hey guys whats a good driver update program for free/

?

[storm osprey]

manually doing it yourself

[prime jasper]

device manager yer?

or windows update?

[storm osprey]

what are you updating?

[prime jasper]

drivers, just wanting to see if any need updating

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt trust a single program to do that

i would personally manually search for driver updates

[prime jasper]

cool thankyou

[wooden hare]

NEXT LEVEL RGB

[sonic osprey]

just placed order for additional radiator and other watercooling supplies, 2080ti with waterblock and define s2

[storm osprey]

wtf

[sonic osprey]

yes?

[storm osprey]

[latent light]

[storm osprey]

did you get aliaz switches?1

[latent light]

no

still looking for a compatible keyboard

[storm osprey]

GMMK

wait, didnt you say you could solder?

[latent light]

yes but I just want something fast and easy

[storm osprey]

you could do GMMK and just clip the plastic

[latent light]

could just get a responsive membrane for a lot less money

inb4 "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[fiery oracle]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[latent light]

you slav?

[minor turret]

not buying cheap 30-40 euro mechanical keyboard from china

smh

[lofty light]

I got a cherry brown keyboard free with my GPU

[atomic atlas]

@lofty light trash

[lofty light]

@atomic atlas no u

I mean I don't use the keyboard, I just have it spare

[latent light]

no u

[storm osprey]

browns are my choice, i like tactile, cant do clicky for obvious reasons

[molten coral]

I've the blue ones

click clak click clak

[tepid river]

Tfw found a 1070 for 240€

[hallow frigate]

yo

anyone wanna can help me in a call to put the best graphics settings in bf1?

[lofty light]

WOOT! Samsung QVO SSD's are finally coming out

Now I can suggest SSD's as the full storage for peeps whilst still being budget

[lime pollen]

not up to speed with Samsung

what's the QVO series?

[lofty light]

It's their new fabrication type that is much cheaper to make larger sizes but they're slightly slower and shorter lived

But you can get a 4TB SSD now for $800 AUD 👀

[lime pollen]

👀

[prime jasper]

Hey whats up guys

I just bought a new pc and built it myself

When i get in the Bios ot tells me that everything is ok (temp, cpu, ram, sata ports, ram...

But when im going to install windows it doesnt detect my ssd or my hdd

I don't know why

Can someone help me out plz??

[rugged fractal]

@prime jasper if your SSd,HDD are properly connected in the wrigth slot , check also cables from PSU also from motherboard

try using motherboard s manual

[prime jasper]

Ive cheked that already

I dont know why thats happening

Cause the bios detects the drives

[rugged fractal]

setup in bios boot device order if is UEFI

[prime jasper]

Also did that

1 usb key

2 hard drive

Thats the order

[rugged fractal]

you have only HDD ,not also SSD?

[prime jasper]

Both

[rugged fractal]

check motherboard manual for correct connection win RAID or whatever they say

[prime jasper]

Ok

[rugged fractal]

i suggest instal windows on SSDD

[prime jasper]

Thats the main idea

[rugged fractal]

and connect on first slot on motherboard also select in bios to boot this device

[prime jasper]

Ssd for windows and hdd for games

To boot usb??

Or ssd first

[rugged fractal]

if already have installed windows

[prime jasper]

Ok

[rugged fractal]

they usually come with AHCI

google this for corect bios config

[prime jasper]

So i put iton UEFI

Ok ill try

[rugged fractal]

yes if have windows on a usb memory stick

[prime jasper]

Yes

I do

[rugged fractal]

order in bios is USBB 2nd from ssd

and3rd from hdd

ALT+F10 and you shopuld be able to install windows

[prime jasper]

Ok thanks

[rugged fractal]

welcome

[hidden ermine]

Need suggestions on Graphics cards(Nvidia).

I currently have a gtx 1060 3Gb- obvs needing more memory. But while I’m gonna upgrade it, which one should I go to? And how’s the best way to acquire it? Please dm me or Ping me if you have any advice. Much appreciated.

[molten bramble]

Has anyone used the Alienware Elite gaming mouse?

[latent light]

just ordered Razer Cynosa Chroma for $45

should be a decent membrane keyboard

[molten bramble]

Not sure about the quality of these mice... 🤔

[vapid pebble]

I use a Razer Ornata which is a membrane also

[latent light]

I paid $40 for a razer deathadder 4 years ago, still using it today

solid mouse

[molten bramble]

Yeah?

[flint locust]

I used to have a deathadder, great mouse

currently using the logitech g pro (overpriced af but got it free)

its nice as well

[molten bramble]

This is the other shelf.

[foggy shadow]

I've got an i7 4970K 4.0 GHz and GTX 970. How reasonable is it to upgrade the gfx card to something else than the newest series? I mean in terms of not getting much out of the upgrade otherwise

[vapid pebble]

I have 2 deathadders that I dont use right now. Switched to a Razer Basilisk a few months ago

[latent light]

I like mice with a smooth and round design, fits into the palm

I tried a logitech G502 and it had little gaps in the chassis that felt odd

[latent light]

that gap on the bottom

felt weird on the palm

[flint locust]

ew mine doesn't have that, its round the whole way through

[molten bramble]

@latent light Yeah, was looking at that, thinking I also want something with a more unified design.

[latent light]

yeah I like roundness

[vapid pebble]

I was looking at the 502 to give it a try at one point when it was on sale. But given I have 2 other razer accessories didnt want to run another program for just a mouse

[flint locust]

I never used the razer software when i had that mouse

[latent light]

I'm going to have to run 2 different versions of razer synapse, sadly

2.0 and 3.0 lol

[molten bramble]

And I am not crazy about a mouse with 50 buttons on it

Anymore more than 10 is too much

[flint locust]

mine you can remove buttons on the side

[lime pollen]

I got the lancehead recently

it's for palm grip but it feels nice

[molten bramble]

Well, at this time this is my selection.

Looking at that Wireless G602

But still a bit chunky

[vapid pebble]

A friend of mine has the 602 I believe, he likes it

[latent light]

I don't understand the hype of mechanical keyboards

Don't want an obnoxiously loud clicky keyboard that can be heard throughout the house and wake a baby up

[molten bramble]

Same ^

[latent light]

Could go for some dead silent Mechanical tactile switches like Aliaz Silent but those would cost like $70 for a full size keyboard

[latent light]

and finding a compatible keyboard for those switches is pretty hard

[vapid pebble]

Im looking to get a blackwidow because I want a tenkeyless keyboard. Id be getting the orange switches so noise isnt much of an issue.

[flint locust]

get the g pro its nice

i got it free but its worth the price tag lmao

[molten bramble]

I don’t see the g pro here

That Alienware seems pretty solid

They have a G Pro wired headset

But not the mouse

[flint locust]

its probably locked up or in a cage of some sort

best buy here its like that

[molten bramble]

Yeah, this is a different kind of store 😕

[muted sun]

Hey, anyone in here had issues where BF1 does not recognize the native resolution?

My monitor and everything is set up for 1440p at 144hz, BF1 is only displaying 1080p 144hz

[icy mist]

Hi guys

How much empty space should I leave on my ssd for a nice gaming performance?

Now there is only 20 GB emtpy space

[storm osprey]

we talking mice?

am i late?

mice mice mice

[minor turret]

nixeus revel > all others

prove me wrong

[latent light]

once a week, I get the artifacts on youtube, they are green dots that cover most of the screen for like 10 seconds

[minor turret]

@latent light rip Vmem on your gpu

[latent light]

I don't get artifacts ever in games though

[sonic osprey]

just disable hardware acceleration from your browser

[steep gust]

@icy mist IIRC 15% of your SSD should be empty

[keen forge]

I've dedicated my SSD to star citizen, makes a large difference on that game

[steep gust]

You dont need an entire SSD for one game

[minor turret]

my gtx 780 had random glitches like you @latent light, didnt even start with games

before it utterly shat itself

and wouldnt accept drivers without weird artifacts

[keen forge]

You do if that game will be well over 100 gig minimum at launch

[latent light]

20% free space gives an SSD quite a long lifespan of 5+ years

10% gives roughly 2-3 years on average

then again, some people have an SSD filled up for years

[minor turret]

my intel 330 180gb has been system drive for like 7 years

still like 99% lifespan according to intel sensors

[desert bear]

Wow.

[balmy finch]

How does used capacity affect lifespan?

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/-XZNr7mS0iw?t=251

timestamped

tells you everything

[noble steeple]

https://imgur.com/a/7XVNzPD
Can anyone pinpoint where exactly the issue lies when the ISP said that there's no issue on their line and BFV is the only game with those issues?

I can't pinpoint the damn exact issue anymore

[latent light]

@steep gust so, my friend managed to snap the AM4 socket in half

his message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_Dj-TedSU

I hope no one has a 1050 Ti right now

you can find an RX 570 for cheaper and get 40% more performance

[molten bramble]

I have one, it's been a workhorse.

[steep gust]

@latent light He broke the retention not the socket itself

and it doesn't really mean anything but a plastic retention is cheap af

my motherboard has like black nickel plated retention arms

it looks fucking cool and is a waste

[sonic osprey]

noticed yesterday that der8auer has OC frame for 9900k for direct die cooling

https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/2018/12/der8auer-oc-frame-direct-die-cooling-now-also-for-intel-9th-generation-processors/

so basically delidding, swapping the cpu frame and then applying liquid metal directly on top of the die

[steep gust]

I thought about direct die

[latent light]

How sensitive is the die

[steep gust]

but like delid + copper ihs is more than enough for Coffeelake

silicon is fucking hard

[latent light]

Lol

People act like the die could break by wiping it with a paper towel

[steep gust]

CPUs use to not have an IHS

but idiots would crack the die with coolers

[latent light]

[balmy finch]

To be fair, heatsinks nowadays are ginormous compared to the old days

[latent light]

processors didn't pull much power back then before 1 GHz processors

[steep gust]

Just tested

18% gain in Cinebench going from entirely stock settings to my overclock profile (XMP, cache, and 5.0ghz) for my 8600k

[sullen lichen]

Anyone anymore ideas, really getting pissed off with this constant game crashing thing now

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/bXTSv50UBq4?t=915

AMD doesn't even care about competing in the high end graphic cards market because even if they had the best card, people would still buy nvidia

[lime pollen]

fact

[latent light]

even Buildzoid agrees with that

[lime pollen]

even if AMD gets something that performs close to the higher end technologies, intel/nvidia would cut prices by a bit to make it seem more appealing

[latent light]

I think even Der8aurer said that in a video too

[lime pollen]

thus btfoing out of amd

[steep gust]

I mean the Radeon VII spec sheet is similar to the Mi50 but like AMD is gonna pull an Nvidia and cut its compute power

as to not step on its $10,000 (or something like that) workstation stuff

[sullen lichen]

i mean, this is still vega architecture, volta at the end of the year could bring nice things

[steep gust]

Volta oh my god

We have two GPUs on Volta and nothing else mentioned since

Turing got everything Volta got and was not just $3000+ workstation cards

[latent light]

the radeon 7 will compete against the Titan V in compute and the RTX 2080 in gaming

[lofty light]

Well that's supposedly

[lime pollen]

the r7 is still viable

it just needs to be halved with the ram

[lofty light]

Using AMDs own testing which I wouldn't trust at this point

Yeah tbh they don't seem to want to focus on gaming with that amount of VRAM

Especially HBM2

[lime pollen]

I mean if it competes with the titan v at that price

but it's overkill

and lacks rtx tech vs the 2080

[latent light]

doesn't the Vega 64 beat the RTX 2080 Ti in compute?

[lime pollen]

no

it beats 2080

in some games

[lofty light]

HBM2 is incredibly expensive so adding more means they can't drop the price

[latent light]

talking about compute

not gaming

[lime pollen]

ahhh

I dont recall

[lofty light]

I thought they showed the Vega 64 could raytrace better than a 2080ti when modded?

I just remember hearing that as it's hilarious

[latent light]

I mean there is a chance that Radeon can utilize ray tracing better

I find it funny how Intel and Apple never got along very well

I guess 2 price gouging companies can never get along

AMD sells their GPUs to Apple with small profit margin

Nvidia would never do that

Apple stopped using Intel CPUs and are now making their own for Macs

[lofty light]

Isn't apple meant to be making their own CPUs for Mac's?

Yeah

[latent light]

I guess they couldn't make a fair ground with each other

[lofty light]

I'm quite intrigued tbh

Well it may just be that apple have gotten to the point with their CPUs that they feel they can finally cut Intel out

Next will be amd I assume

100% apple products that can't be user repaired

Tbh though I have the most recent MacBook Pro for work so I can't really say much about apple

[steep gust]

Vega 64 doesn't have the drivers to ray trace

and vendor benchmarks are worthless

They used stuff that heavily favored AMD

[lofty light]

Exactly

After the Vega FE debacle I don't trust their benchmarks at all

[steep gust]

and the lack of 1% and 0.1% for FPS benchmarks makes them useless

but yeah if they went with 12GB of HBM2 or GDDR6 and lowered prices it would be amazing

but when you think that 16GB of HBM2 is like $250-300

then big oof

[untold geode]

help help

plz

my game isnt working

jk

my real problem is

on fortnite when i change my resolution it shows it's changed but the actual resolution stays at 1080p when it clearly says 1440p it's not scaling when it should be if can help me @ me

also it's in fullscreen

[steep gust]

Change resolution scaling?

[untold geode]

resolution scaling?

[latent light]

Buildzoid stated that the R&D for the new Vega card to have GDDR6 would be stupid expensive

also Vega chips are designed specifically for HBM2

HBM2 can reach 1 TB/s bandwidth speed, GDDR6 can't

[untold geode]

still need help

[steep gust]

bandwidth isn't the marker for performance

and maybe moving to GDDR6 would be a logical move

[untold geode]

im confused

your making my brian hurt

*brain

[latent light]

memory bandwidth helps with FP64 compute

[untold geode]

huh

[steep gust]

Which as seen with the Titan V

FP64 is not a good marker for gaming performance

[untold geode]

i just want to fix my resolution bug

not wifi bandwith stuf and stuff

[steep gust]

Google dude we aren't tech support

[latent light]

tbh AMD could sell the Radeon VII as a workstation card for $1,000 and it would be ok

considering it can compete with a Titan V at compute

they haven't announced Navi yet because they still want to sell Polaris stock

pretty sure Navi announcement would of made RX 570/580/590 sales plummet by 90% or more

[untold geode]

is the 1050 sli

theres a lot of videos syaing it is

articles say it isn't

[latent light]

it's not

SLI support only starts at the 1070 and up

[lofty light]

You could use them with multi GPU support I guess

But good luck finding anything that supports that

[latent light]

can't you have two GPUs in a system without SLI/crossfire

like have them hooked up to different monitors

and do different things

[lime pollen]

yes

[lofty light]

You've got the DX12 multi GPU support that can use multiple GPUs of any model/brand together

[lime pollen]

I don't think it's series restricted either

[latent light]

wait even pair nvidia and AMD together?

[lime pollen]

no

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

ree

that'd be lit though

but I was thinking of putting in my old 970

to support a different monitor

[latent light]

DX12 is the future, mainly for multi-core CPU optimization

[lofty light]

You can have NVIDIA and AMD together with MGS

[lime pollen]

:O

intriguing

[latent light]

Intel and AMD have made products together plenty of times

[lofty light]

But nothing other than some benchmarks support it that I know of

Sorry meant the GPU manufacturers

[latent light]

I figured you can't have AMD and Nvidia drivers on the same system though

[lofty light]

No idea how it works tbh

[latent light]

@untold geode were you wanting to get another 1050 and pair it with one you already have?

[untold geode]

yess

[latent light]

you can get a RX 570 for around the same price as a 1050 and it will get around 40% higher performance

on a game like fortnite it will only be like 20% though

[untold geode]

bro im only 13

[lime pollen]

[latent light]

because Unreal Engine

[lofty light]

Well you can't get two 1050s is the easiest way then

[latent light]

unreal engine has been getting better optimization on AMD cards recently

[lime pollen]

^

this is fact

[untold geode]

on youtube people kept using sli with 1050s

[lime pollen]

and it's getting lit

[lofty light]

You'll have to sell your one and get a better card if you want better perf

[untold geode]

so im guessing they used psu

[lofty light]

Also sli is BAD anyway

[lime pollen]

I'm hoping on seeing something from amd soon

[steep gust]

You can do 1050ti SLI over PCIe

[lime pollen]

I wanna upgrade my gpu

[latent light]

yeah sli support for games in recent years has been pretty garbage

[lime pollen]

[steep gust]

Its not fun or useful

but you can do it

[lofty light]

I'd only ever get one card nowadays

[untold geode]

i only have games that support like gta

[lofty light]

GTAV still has crap sli support

[latent light]

yeah it does

[steep gust]

yeah only sniper elite 4 has good SLI support

[lime pollen]

yeah that's pretty true

[lofty light]

I used to play with sli 970s and it was basically no difference

[latent light]

Jolly, do you have the 1050 or the 1050 Ti?

[untold geode]

theres a feature on nvida control pannel that always you to use it on any game

1050

[lime pollen]

sli gains are not that great

[latent light]

oof

[lime pollen]

compared to price, performance, and power consumption

[untold geode]

my dad desont wnat tob uya new gpu he wants to wait after he gets back from deployment to buya new pc

[latent light]

doesn't want to buy a new gpu but wants to buy another 1050?

[lime pollen]

prebuilts

[untold geode]

o iw ant to

[lime pollen]

I wonder if the 30xx series will be announced this year

[latent light]

usually prebuilt is a good option especially for a 13 year old

[lime pollen]

pls be

[untold geode]

but he buys a2 gaming laptops

[lofty light]

Get a Walmart pre-built

[lime pollen]

didn't they immediately stop those

[latent light]

nah, they fixed a lot of the complaints

like single channel memory and the pricing

[lime pollen]

I heard they got pulled

[lofty light]

I dunno, those cases looked great for cooling

[untold geode]

im fine with my 1050 i get 60fps on gtav on 1080p

[lofty light]

Three front intake fans with a 100% sealed front 👌

[lime pollen]

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

Derikk is big brain

[lofty light]

I wish I could be a big brain like the tech peeps at Walmart

[latent light]

time to make everyone big angery

[untold geode]

fortnite runs at 90 fps with high settings with texture s on low with shaodws on medium

[latent light]

i bought a membrane keyboard from razer

[lime pollen]

yep

stop right there

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

[untold geode]

@latent light what games can my gpu run at max settings

[latent light]

it has RGB though

[lime pollen]

Grim

stop

[lofty light]

Oh god

[lime pollen]

[latent light]

RGB means higher fps

[lofty light]

membrane
Razer

[lime pollen]

stop

[untold geode]

just waiting for a answer

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

I feel like my 1070 is gonna die

[lofty light]

What's your CPU @untold geode

[latent light]

you probably will have trouble with Battlefield V even at low settings

[lime pollen]

got artificated for a split second yesterday

big spook

[steep gust]

reduce overclock

[lime pollen]

nuu

[untold geode]

@lofty light amd phenom ii x4 910

[steep gust]

its not like you can kill a Pascal GPU with an overclock

[latent light]

reduce memory overclock

[lofty light]

Reformat

[lime pollen]

I like my +50 hz

[untold geode]

im about to overclock it

[steep gust]

but it might not have ever been stable

[lofty light]

Oooooof

[latent light]

oooooooooooooooooof

phenom II

[lofty light]

Yup

[latent light]

can we get an F

[lime pollen]

PHENOM II

What year is it

[lofty light]

[latent light]

F

[untold geode]

xd im goign to ovclock it to 3.0 ghz

[latent light]

no pls

[lofty light]

You're gonna start a fire there

[lime pollen]

how to kill your cpu

[latent light]

overclocking a CPU like that wont do much tbh

[untold geode]

it makes the speed faster

[latent light]

doesn't matter though

[lime pollen]

christ

[latent light]

won't even see 5% gains

[lime pollen]

"it hte makes teh sped faster :d"

[untold geode]

i cna if i want

ur not my grandpa

[latent light]

most unlocked Intel CPUs see only like 5-7% higher performance from a overclock

but a Phenom II....

maybe 3%

[lime pollen]

🔥

that phenom is gonna get lit

[latent light]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-910-vs-AMD-FX-4100/m5165vs2878

FX-4100 beats phenom II

[untold geode]

i searche dit up it says atleast 4.4ghz

[latent light]

[lofty light]

Oh god

[lime pollen]

ah

[lofty light]

Look mate, I have a spare i3 4130, just use that instead of starting a house fire

[latent light]

@untold geode I think you need more of a CPU upgrade, not graphics card

[lime pollen]

the fx series

[untold geode]

ill just oc it

see what happens

[lofty light]

[latent light]

isn't that like a 125w cpu?

it's going to start a fire probably

[lofty light]

Tech Jesus is crying

[lime pollen]

no no

let him do it

if he wants to

[untold geode]

my power supply is reall good

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

sure go ahead

A good power supply means it'll get the job done

🙃

[latent light]

the stubborn gets the hardest lessons

[untold geode]

how do i ovclock it

:|

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

dw he's got it

he's watching videos

[latent light]

I remember when I had a celeron and tried to overclock it

[lime pollen]

[latent light]

just to get more fps in runescape

[lime pollen]

peace to runescape

[untold geode]

how do i overcllock

[lime pollen]

[untold geode]

thats not helping

[latent light]

[lofty light]

Just follow this video @untold geode

https://youtu.be/vLMd-5yxTAc

[latent light]

150 degrees is the best overclock you can get

[lime pollen]

^

[lofty light]

The hotter is is the faster it goes

[lime pollen]

Make sure to put in a lot of power into your cpu

[untold geode]

im only increasing it too 2.8 or 3

[latent light]

what is the current speed?

[untold geode]

2.6

[latent light]

[lime pollen]

[lofty light]

[latent light]

check if your motherboard supports overclocking

[untold geode]

idk how

[lime pollen]

[lofty light]

Just chuck the multiplier up

[latent light]

have to open pc and crank start it until the pistons start

[lofty light]

It's at 100 by default, if you chuck it to 120 you get a flat 20% perf boost

[lime pollen]

simple math

[lofty light]

Exactly!

[lime pollen]

computers are so ez lmao

I like to smear thermal paste onto my cpu

[untold geode]

so ummm can you make this asier

[latent light]

I once overclocked a 760 and it physically turned into a 770

[untold geode]

so i turn on my pc and press delete couple time to enter motherboard bios

...

[latent light]

yes

[lime pollen]

isn't a vega 64 an overclocked 56

[lofty light]

You don't need thermal paste

Bare contact is enough

But if you reeeeeeally want something you can use toothpaste

[untold geode]

i ahve a hp elite pavilion e9120f

[lime pollen]

nvm I'll just put water on it

to cool it down

[latent light]

a 2009 pc with a gtx 1050?

[untold geode]

serach my motherbaord

bc idk the website

[lofty light]

His PC looks like this @latent light

[latent light]

https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-e9120f-tower-phenom-ii-x4-910-2-6-ghz-8-gb-1-tb/

[untold geode]

whats the motherbaord

[lofty light]

It's custom I bet

[latent light]

yeah the original comes with a GeForce 9100

[lofty light]

Yup

[latent light]

not bad for 2009

[lofty light]

Motherboard would be a custom HP one @untold geode

[latent light]

yeah no overclocking on that

[lofty light]

Because it's a pre-built

[latent light]

[lofty light]

Just get a pre-built from a proper tech store tbh

If you can't build your own

[latent light]

can't you take a PC to a hardware shop and they will build it for you for like $50-100

[lofty light]

What?

[untold geode]

your actling like im 23

im 13

[lofty light]

Hey I'm 23

Basically your CPU is woefully inadequate for most games especially battlefield

[untold geode]

i use my dads omen for battlefield

[lofty light]

And you can't overclock with the current setup you have

[latent light]

overclock your dad's pc

[lofty light]

So I'd recommend getting a new build when you can from a local tech store

[untold geode]

nah it runs bfv at high 70

[lime pollen]

[lofty light]

Instead of a store like Walmart

[steep gust]

high 70 on what

480p?

[latent light]

my $600 build runs BFV at ultra 80-90 fps average

[lime pollen]

probably lmao

[latent light]

[untold geode]

im buying a skytech gaming arch angel

[lofty light]

Because tech stores always use actual brand name parts

[untold geode]

@lofty light the arhangle specs are

*angel

[steep gust]

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B01M68OOTY?th=1 this one?

[lofty light]

Do you have a link?

[latent light]

wait nvm my build is more like $700

[untold geode]

gtx 1050 ti ryzen 3 1200 3.1 oc to 4.0 1tb ssd, 8 gb ddr4

[lime pollen]

my current build is like

[steep gust]

because that is hot shit

[lime pollen]

expensive

[steep gust]

For $600

Like building a computer is easy

[lofty light]

Ooof

[untold geode]

the archangel is fasr

*fast

[steep gust]

no

[lime pollen]

lmao

[lofty light]

My computer is fast

[steep gust]

That is low end

[lime pollen]

I'm not bothering with this anymore

[steep gust]

My GPU almost costs as much as that entire system

[latent light]

I got a Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB DDR4 3000 MHz, RX 580 8GB, 250GB NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD, Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 all for $700

[untold geode]

bc im not greedy for fps

[lofty light]

My GPU cost 2.5 times that system

[lime pollen]

D-DDR4

not greedy for fps

mentions the "70" fps on high

[untold geode]

@lofty light idc care about your money bc you have enough to buy that

[lime pollen]

with that cpu

big yikes

[untold geode]

@lime pollen wa stalking about my dads omen

[lofty light]

Basically that computer is very old tech for the most part

[latent light]

yeah the Phenom II X4 910

[untold geode]

i only use this for csgo and bf4

[latent light]

[untold geode]

i use my dads omen for bfv bf1 snipe rghost warrior 3 and farcry 5

[lofty light]

Still, I wouldn't spend money on hardware that is kinda bad to start with

I'd go with like a low end ryzen build if I needed to cut costs

You could even go an APU build for dirt cheap

[untold geode]

stop changing the subject

[latent light]

[lofty light]

I ain't

[untold geode]

ik

[lofty light]

I'm saying that skytech is kinda bad

And that you can get better for cheaper

[untold geode]

i dont play intense games so im fine with it

[steep gust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NH7Qvn

[latent light]

wait I thought you had a Phenom II

[untold geode]

my dad was also about to choose a 2tx 2070 ti pc

*rtx

[latent light]

2070 Ti

[steep gust]

Don't waste money on hardware "because I don't play demanding games"

[untold geode]

but i chnage dit to skytech

[lime pollen]

l m a o

[steep gust]

2070ti doesn't exist

So try again

[latent light]

[lofty light]

Not yet

[steep gust]

Probably never

[untold geode]

well rtx 2070

[steep gust]

2070 is pretty much what the 1070ti was

[latent light]

you have this pc?

[steep gust]

Ugly ass case

[latent light]

lol

[untold geode]

no not yet

[lofty light]

That's what's he's looking to buy

[steep gust]

Also that airflow

big oof

[lofty light]

Which is why I'm saying don't

[latent light]

i can find you a better prebuilt than that

[lofty light]

As it's not really an upgrade

[latent light]

yeah it's not an upgrade at all

[lofty light]

And a lot of money for a sidegrade

[steep gust]

dad plans to buy expensive PC

No don't buy it, buy some low end rig for some demanding games

story is bullshit

BF4 is not a low end game

[untold geode]

let me fix some of that

[latent light]

https://www.ebay.com/i/292784573074?chn=ps

[untold geode]

i asked my dad for a new pc when he gets back form deployment > he said sure after bills i show him 3 pcs archangle then one has a 1060 i5 another had 1070 i7 > he didnt care about the price juts specs he said any but i chose archangel bc i dont play demanding game

[latent light]

tbh I been thinking of doing an emulator build for cheap, but I'll wait for the next raspberry pi

[lime pollen]

[untold geode]

i wouldve chose the 1070 but thats until i bought witcher 3

so now i wnat it

[steep gust]

uh yeah witcher 3 is like

$20

or was

[untold geode]

so ill reask him

well shwo

[latent light]

i got witcher 3 game of the year edition for $20

[untold geode]

*show

[latent light]

[untold geode]

i got it for 18

[lime pollen]

bought it for my friend for christmas

witcher 3 is lit

[steep gust]

I didn't pay for it but shh

[lime pollen]

[steep gust]

Ran pretty well at 4k tbh

[untold geode]

@steep gust your story was incorrect

[steep gust]

Mostly accurate enough to the point I was making

[lofty light]

Witcher 3 is freaking awesome

[steep gust]

Which was you are buying a cheaper rig because you don't play demanding games

yet what happens if you get BFV?

a new monitor?

[lofty light]

Did a magic focus build and it broke the game

[untold geode]

you didnt say that

[steep gust]

literally any new games in the next few years

[latent light]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-series-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-128gb-solid-state-drive-shadow-black-with-a-brushed-hairline-pattern/6280608.p?skuId=6280608&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=246&ds_rl=1260402&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=DWA&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=CjwKCAiA4OvhBRAjEiwAU2FoJTtihLFuzYD2oEG4OJ7i8K8GtoPGZeUHygcYpdSoWiph0SBMGCI8OxoC-jIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds @untold geode

[untold geode]

BetrayedPredatorToday at 8:06 PM

dad plans to buy expensive PC

No don't buy it, buy some low end rig for some demanding games

story is bullshit(edited)

[latent light]

check this out

Ryzen 5 + RX 580 and a 128GB ssd build for $600

[lime pollen]

🤔

that doesn't sound that great

[steep gust]

4GB 580

big oof

[lime pollen]

128 gb

yikes

[latent light]

4GB doesn't make much difference

[lime pollen]

no go fam

[steep gust]

2400g

bigger oof

[untold geode]

i have bfv on my dads omen

[latent light]

can't find a prebuilt better than that though

[steep gust]

You don't buy an APU with a dGPU

yeah its called

build it yourself

ez pz

[latent light]

[steep gust]

The entire process is

plug cables in

screw stuff in

done

[lime pollen]

I can't wait to do my next build

but I might need to find a better motherboard

[steep gust]

I might do a custom loop this year

[lime pollen]

since I was ridiculed last time

[steep gust]

but man my planned custom loop doesn't really work in parts

[lime pollen]

custom loop sounds lit

[steep gust]

Can't just buy the CPU portion then add a GPU

[latent light]

are you going to get a new cpu?

[steep gust]

also I want a new GPU if I am going to add a $150 waterblock

Maybe

I mean LGA1151 (the mounting) isn't going away

[latent light]

I'm waiting til around april to june for Ryzen 3rd gen

[steep gust]

oh I'm not switching motherboards

[latent light]

won't be longer before they say specific release dates

[untold geode]

heres one pc i wa slooking at

[steep gust]

If like the 9700k falls to a reasonable price

[untold geode]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_1/ref=mh_s9n_acss_cg_asd_2a1_w?ie=UTF8&qid=1534024615&sr=8-1&keywords=gaming+pc&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-2&pf_rd_r=EVZZ3B5ZGY4R735NRH2A&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=965e2f02-bdb0-4f50-82be-dfdb755fbb0f&pf_rd_i=8588813011

[steep gust]

Maybe I would buy one

[lofty light]

Just get a pure APU build tbh

[steep gust]

and direct die

1060 3gb big no

[lime pollen]

yikes

[steep gust]

Not for $850

[lime pollen]

owo the rgb is lit

that's what you're paying 850$ for

for the aesthetic

[steep gust]

owo you can add rgb fans

for cheap

[latent light]

my RX 580 4GB and ryzen 5 2400G build I linked was $250 cheaper than that

[lime pollen]

cpu and gpu could do better

[latent light]

[untold geode]

the one my da dliked

[lime pollen]

yeah

listen kid

[untold geode]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_30/ref=mh_s9n_acss_cg_asd_2b1_w?ie=UTF8&qid=1534024672&sr=8-30&keywords=gaming+pc&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-2&pf_rd_r=EVZZ3B5ZGY4R735NRH2A&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=965e2f02-bdb0-4f50-82be-dfdb755fbb0f&pf_rd_i=8588813011

[steep gust]

Man I don't think he is going to listen to us

[lofty light]

It's cyberpower so it's the name you're buying

[lime pollen]

either you at least understand that we're trying to help you

or just listen to your dad

[latent light]

$1500

[lime pollen]

and his potential 2070 ti build

[latent light]

[steep gust]

That one isn't terrible

but like could be better for price

[untold geode]

my da dliked that one

[steep gust]

Its his money

[latent light]

I hate where the rad is located

[steep gust]

let him buy it then and it won't struggle with games

[latent light]

[steep gust]

I hate 120mm rads

You have literally like

-5C OC headroom will an 8700k on a 120mm rad

[untold geode]

The last time I one

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Geforce-7200RPM-N27W8270EX2/dp/B07BDQY67Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1547435627&sr=1-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

[steep gust]

and a like 25mm rad

[lime pollen]

this is cute

[steep gust]

not an extra thicc 120mm rad

[untold geode]

the red cas eis my favorite

*case

[steep gust]

FX in 2019

[untold geode]

XD

[lime pollen]

yeah that's a yikes from me fam

[steep gust]

That CPU is literally $30-40

[atomic atlas]

@lime pollen bet you have intel graphics

tbh

[lime pollen]

don't tell them I do

[untold geode]

BetrayedPredatorToday at 8:06 PM

dad plans to buy expensive PC

No don't buy it, buy some low end rig for some demanding games

story is bullshit(edited)

shoot worng thing

sorry

[latent light]

only get Ryzen or Intel, stay away from FX CPUs

[lime pollen]

@atomic atlas no u

[untold geode]

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1547435627&sr=1-13&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

there

[latent light]

no

[untold geode]

that was another one

[latent light]

RX 580 in a $1200 build

[lime pollen]

[untold geode]

it has i7 8100

dang

[steep gust]

uh yeah no

i3 8100

Also that GPU is like $150

[untold geode]

it says i7 on my phone

[steep gust]

Man I should go into PC building

[lofty light]

It has an 1800X

[lime pollen]

That's what I wanna do in the future

[steep gust]

That kind of profit margin would be hella sweet

[lofty light]

With a 480

[latent light]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_30/ref=mh_s9n_acss_cg_asd_2b1_w?ie=UTF8&qid=1534024672&sr=8-30&keywords=gaming+pc&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-2&pf_rd_r=EVZZ3B5ZGY4R735NRH2A&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=965e2f02-bdb0-4f50-82be-dfdb755fbb0f&pf_rd_i=8588813011 @untold geode

[lime pollen]

@steep gust literally this

[latent light]

price for this one is good for what you get

[lime pollen]

once I gain more experience

[untold geode]

oh i wa slloking at the wrong one

[steep gust]

I mean if they are selling FX CPU sysytems for $800

[lime pollen]

just look at the pretty lights and numbers and buy the pc

[latent light]

I can do a full build with an Fx-8350 for under $400 probably

[atomic atlas]

Radeon 7

[steep gust]

I can do that with "Top of the line 5.0ghz CPU" for ez $1200

but its gonna be that shit FX CPU

[atomic atlas]

[lofty light]

Just get a snoblind case

[lime pollen]

[atomic atlas]

Panzer cases are better

😩

[lime pollen]

[atomic atlas]

that is something you cant deny

[latent light]

panzer is tank in german

[atomic atlas]

german engineering

[lime pollen]

for real

panzer cases are really neat

[untold geode]

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Computer-i7-8700K-880-130/dp/B0768M95WY/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1547435627&sr=1-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

[steep gust]

no

[untold geode]

taht price tho

[latent light]

hell no

[steep gust]

You can do much better for $2300

[lime pollen]

we need more handlebar cases

[steep gust]

They bought that 1080ti at OEM price so if you wanna give them nice profit buy that one

[untold geode]

i like the red tower

[steep gust]

You can easily change cases

[lofty light]

https://youtu.be/_-JvEuSW5Es

Get one of those rotating builds

[steep gust]

Adding a different GPU cost a lot more

[lime pollen]

Betrayed explains what's wrong with the build to price

[lofty light]

With 4 LCD panels

[lime pollen]

I like teh red case

🙃

[steep gust]

RGB > red

I mean at 13 the case probably looks good

but it screams gamer and looks tacky

[atomic atlas]

Did anything interesting happen at CES this year

[latent light]

Fractal Design cases 😩 💦

[lime pollen]

Nothing really

[atomic atlas]

besides the new HDD changes

[lime pollen]

DLSS is now out

[atomic atlas]

🤷

[steep gust]

AMD keynote that was "just wait"

[lime pollen]

New Nvidia designed laptops

[steep gust]

HAMR HDD tech has been around for awhile now

[lime pollen]

rtx 2060

[atomic atlas]

@steep gust $4,000 later

[lofty light]

@atomic atlas just look at the GN coverage

[steep gust]

Some of the monitors are neato

but like not the ones I want

[untold geode]

Might be a go with this https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Geforce-7200RPM-N27W8270EX2/dp/B07BDQY67Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1547435627&sr=1-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

[lime pollen]

the new case that Razer created was interesting

[steep gust]

I WANT THAT ULTRAWIDE 1440p 200hz HDR GSYNC ONE

[lime pollen]

the Hawk-something

[lofty light]

Tech Jesus gives you the CES news you need

[latent light]

will probably be next month or March before we get actual product reveals from AMD tbh @steep gust

[lime pollen]

I hope amd releases some good stuff soon

[steep gust]

@untold geode 🤦

[lofty light]

@steep gust me too man

But they're not available

[steep gust]

Its gonna be like $4000 tho @lofty light

[untold geode]

@steep gust idc aslong a si get good preforamnc eont he games i play im fine with it

[steep gust]

So wait a generation and then buy one

[lofty light]

I got an X34P instead, same thing but 120Hz and no HDR

[steep gust]

Then buy the 2070 / 8700k and get good performance

I can max out BF4's engine on an overclocked 8600k / 1080, which is better than that at stock

[untold geode]

honestly the oc i have now runs csog at 4096x2160 at 60fps

*pc

[steep gust]

CSGO is literally nothing

I get like 400fps or something stupid

[untold geode]

ik but it's worth it

[lofty light]

Csgo needs nothing

Yeah

[steep gust]

Also CSGO at 4k

You want the most FPS

[untold geode]

its 66 fps lock

[lofty light]

CSGO is why the 240Hz monitors exist

[latent light]

[untold geode]

3840x2160 is 80fps lock

[steep gust]

Man I have someone losing their mind over HDR which is why I will probably end up buying an HDR panel in a different server

just because those colors

as long as its proper HDR

[lofty light]

I'm happy with IPS for now

[latent light]

fps or colors?

[lofty light]

Pure colours

Even if it's 24fps

[untold geode]

turn up your color saetting sin nvidia control pannel boom