technology

[crude flint]

yeah mostly gamin

nice quote

[sullen lichen]

No, there is not a single game that will use more than 32gb of ram and you will not be using VMs or video editing that needs that much either

this system will sacrifice gaming performance

[crude flint]

so

so I threw a couple extra sticks of ram in there, big whoop

I could go for an i9 but thats a different socket type

[sullen lichen]

i wouldnt even recommend the i9 for a gaming machine

even with the offers on it its still 200 more than it needs to be for the perf

[crude flint]

i get the whole "save money and buy a better gpu" but I have a 1080 right now and it's not even being taxed because of cpu bottleneck

I can afford it, just feel like getting multiple builds

[sullen lichen]

its about being smart

[crude flint]

lol, nothing wrong with the build apart from "it could have a 2080 ti"

ill put one in eventually

[sullen lichen]

Actually no there is a lot wrong

this screams i havent looked into what im doing and want good lets look at big money and ohhh more equals better

[crude flint]

lol

not really

[sullen lichen]

there has been no research done into this build

[crude flint]

mhmm

tell me more

[sullen lichen]

you want a build thats good for gaming?

[crude flint]

I have a pretty good build for gaming

i'm looking for a different mobo, testing out quad channel

its gonna be fun. why all the hate

[sullen lichen]

Because, you ask for opinions on a "gaming" system. That is clearly not a "gaming" focused system. you clearly knew this when linking it because you just said you have a good system for gaming

[crude flint]

There are 500 dollar motherboards I could have bought.. there's faster larger ram sticks.... I haven't

[sullen lichen]

your just trying to troll

[crude flint]

Lol no you're just a sad poor

enjoy your rage peasant

[sullen lichen]

i also have a £2000 system

[crude flint]

It's gonna be pretty good for gaming

[sullen lichen]

just i spent it wisely

[crude flint]

Ah that explains a lot britbong

[sullen lichen]

......

[crude flint]

I have two other 2k systems

Big whoop. I'll ask for input elsewhere, sad troll

[sullen lichen]

what

you asked for advice and then didnt like it so i got annoyed at you. for asking for help when you didnt want it. dont call me the troll

[crude flint]

lol

good help kid

peace

[sullen lichen]

id have said go i7 8700 chip. max 32gb 3200mhz, ssd fine , 2070/2080 depending on budget,

coolers also good

probably halved the price and gaming perf will be better

or go the other way, ryzen 7 2700 , 32gb ram, 2070/2080

again pretty good perf, no bottlenecks and will still run VMs and such due to corecount

[crude flint]

2080 Ti when the 1080 stops being good

Thanks, peace

[latent light]

my brother has a TR 2950X, runs quad channel memory on it

the difference between dual and quad in gaming is maybe 5%

[sullen lichen]

he is just a troll didnt actually want help, that system was not meant for gaming anyhow

[crude flint]

lol keep saying that when I render your character first and headshot you in a game

AYYY

[latent light]

my brother has the 2950X I think for his work

[sullen lichen]

yeah work makes sense

[latent light]

i went to his house back in october and he has all this weird shit in his office room

[sullen lichen]

hahaha xD

[latent light]

literally hundreds of cables everywhere, like some kind of server shit

[sullen lichen]

thats what most people say when they see mine xD

[latent light]

anyone see those new sexy be quiet fans?

[sullen lichen]

hmm not yet when are they out?

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YmEmwE0evo

this fan

also pretty cool case

[sullen lichen]

white ones?

[latent light]

yeah

[sullen lichen]

ehhh

white tech looks tacky to me

ill let you know when ive seen in person though, if done right they will look hella nice

[steep gust]

@crude flint The fuck? That is a terrible gaming rig

7820x is a bad CPU for gaming and always was, get an 9700k

That motherboard could be better, there is a reason its one of the cheapest X299 ones

64GB of RAM? You realize games don't even use 16GB? Also hitting faster RAM on an 8 dimm board is hard

970 Pro for a gaming machine? NVMe sees no real world benefit in gaming

So you plan to get a 1080? What? They are sold out everywhere and a 2070 is a better deal anyway

and that PSU isn't very good for $170

[sullen lichen]

.......

i was totally against that build

😦

[steep gust]

did I tag the wrong person

rip

[latent light]

lmao

[steep gust]

I scrolled down

[latent light]

AMD announcement tomorrow

[sullen lichen]

im going to cry myself to sleep now

this is good

[steep gust]

@latent light Also Threadripper sees large gains between dual and quad channel memory

Like running threadripper on dual channel is bad

[latent light]

even for gaming?

[sullen lichen]

but if more cores is done, it could be an issue, level one tech found a kernal issue with windows that means it doesnt deal with the threads as it should

[steep gust]

Threadripper is already bad at gaming

you don't need to shoot it in the knee

and yeah Windows tries to balance all the cores

which doesn't work with more than 8

[sullen lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2LOMTpCtLA

its quite techy

but basically windows gets brainfucled at threadripper high corecounts into epyc and doesnt know what to do with em

[latent light]

is latency Ryzen's biggest problem?

[sullen lichen]

ultimately yes

single core is probably more noticeable though

even now there are not many programs that are using all the cores correctly, (even windows) so this means that a lot of times perf seems worse, not because the chip is worse but because its not being used correctly

[latent light]

a cheaper varient of the RTX 2080 has been leaked as the possible "gtx 1180"

just a rumor but rumors have been coming true quite a lot

[sullen lichen]

i mean if amd comes true

and these 1100 series cards seem though possible, they seem like it could be made up by anyone

i dont know i feel amd chips though plausable are a bit out there, salt and all that

[steep gust]

AMD leaks are completely fake

[sullen lichen]

i know for sure they are not being released tomorrow

[steep gust]

The one retailor that 'leaked' everything? You can add items to their pages or something like that so it was bullshit

[sullen lichen]

that wasnt a retailer and that was after the leaks

[steep gust]

Even then

People don't understand how node shrinks work

The smaller you go, leakage becomes a bigger and bigger issue

[sullen lichen]

anyway ill say this, They are possibly true from what we have been told

[steep gust]

So were the Volta rumors

Then the Turing rumors

and now see what happened

[sullen lichen]

but we will see tomorrow, i will say we are not getting anything other than showing off tomorrow though

the 1100 series seem more strange because of the branding, i feel it would be too confusing, especially if amd go for 3000 series branding

[steep gust]

Which they will

Its AMD

[latent light]

would be better if AMD went with 600

after the 500 series

[steep gust]

"nAvI iS jUsT a BiNnEd 480"

[sullen lichen]

would but thats still seen as a Nvidia chip

[steep gust]

Just like with the 590 launch, they will probably avoid the 600

[sullen lichen]

its like when i had a r9 290

people said thats a old card.... they thought i meant the old nvidia card

[steep gust]

People are idiots

[sullen lichen]

^ that, they are

[steep gust]

Considering there was never a GTX 290

There was a 295 and a 285

[sullen lichen]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Profesional-Business-Graphics-VCQ290NVS-PCIEX16-PB/dp/B000XA9BMA

actually there was a 290

quadro line though

[steep gust]

and a 280, and a 275, and a 260, and a 250, jesus nvidia how many products on one generation did you do

12 different products on one generation

Then add the different memory configurations and it makes the 1060 look weak

[sullen lichen]

anyhow best be off to bed

[latent light]

AMD had the highest performing card at that time

man going from the GTX 280 to the 480 was the biggest jump in performance ever

for a generation

[crude flint]

How do ya like this one then @sullen lichen

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGXMQZ

or should i switch to AMD and become a shillmaster

[steep gust]

32GB of RAM is worthless for gaming

A 970 Pro is not worth the cost

PSU is still not worth $170

That 1080 is worth $400 not $670

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93FCP3

Better performance

For $600 less

[crude flint]

I bought it for 670 back in the day

I wanna get an i9, already got an i7 and a x299 build

I should get a 2080 eventually but might like a 2080 ti

and I like m2 drives, and want to have enough room on host OS disk for a bunch of stuff

moneys not a problem, if anything I wanna end up with 3-4 builds anyway

I went with a 16 gb 4400mhz ram build before and it sucked

[steep gust]

So buy an M.2 SATA SSD

No reason to spent literally over double for something you won't use

i9 is an advertising point not a benchmark for performance

[crude flint]

I got a delidded one for a deal

should be fun

[steep gust]

uh yeah if you mean from silicon lottery with the cheapest binned one

its gonna clock like dogshit

You don't buy a binned CPU from SL unless its the most expensive one due to them taking all the good bins for well, the expensive ones

[crude flint]

i got an expensive one

still a good deal

[steep gust]

I mean a 9900k hit 5.3ghz at like 1.33v and sold for $1800

[crude flint]

i probably wont run this 600 buck one past 4.5

for fear

[steep gust]

uh

voltage kills CPUs

not frequency

[crude flint]

depends how fast you clock it

[steep gust]

uh no

[crude flint]

lol good talk

[steep gust]

The damage from electrons moving through something faster

[crude flint]

cya dude

[steep gust]

Will take litearlly

millions of years

to kill something

[crude flint]

you'll get laid by then

dw

[steep gust]

do you replace all the copper in your housing every 10 years?

[crude flint]

copper? what is this 1970?

[steep gust]

I find blatantly wrong claims by someone who clearly doesn't understand what they are talking about (Oh I already own a X299 system and want an i9, that is why my first build posted had an i7 X299 CPU) to be annoying

Uh yeah I meant power lines

Running a CPU faster is making more electrons flow through it (due to the nature of how clock cycles work)

but electrons do very little damage (quantum machines if you want to do that math) to anything, you don't replace power lines due to electrons damaging it

So why would you worry about a CPU being damaged the same way?

[atomic atlas]

[lofty light]

Tbh voltage and frequency are somewhat linked (if you ignore silicon lottery) so on the most basic of understandings then yes, forcing a CPU to clock higher will require more voltage and will make its lifespan shorter

[crude flint]

yeah I would try to explainthat but they just seem full of salt

(quantum machines if you want to do that math)

all my lulll

[steep gust]

Uh yeah

Electrons can randomly decide to be in a different location

its why sub 4nm CPUs probably won't happen

and the thing is, a lot of CPUs clock higher on stock (or barely above stock) voltages already

[latent light]

3nm is possible

it will just be a pain in the ass for researchers to develop

people were doubting that TSMC would be able to hit 7nm

but they are already putting R&D into 5nm

silicon atoms are only 0.2nm is size

[untold geode]

1440ps vs 1620p

2k

vs

3k

3k vs 4k

4kvx8k

8kvx16k

[lofty light]

K

[lime pollen]

asked someone about this earlier in a different chat but

[untold geode]

peanuts vs coconuts

[lime pollen]

I was looking at some motherboards

and I don't know which one to get

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP7BR4289&ignorebbr=1

[untold geode]

get one thats good

[lime pollen]

this

or

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145095&ignorebbr=1

this

send help

[untold geode]

gte one that you like

...

or buy a new pc

idc

yr money

*ur

[lime pollen]

lend me your wisedom grim

[untold geode]

thsats gay

[lofty light]

Hmmm

[lime pollen]

[lofty light]

The gigabyte one is cheaper and it's a Z skew

But I really like ASUS

[lime pollen]

yeah

asked nyphon about it but I'd like more input

same comment about ASUS

cause they make rad mobos

[lofty light]

But also the ASUS is only a B skew too

[lime pollen]

I don't know what that means

[lofty light]

I'd probs go gigabyte

[latent light]

asus says out of stock

[lofty light]

If you have an unlocked CPU

[lime pollen]

mm mm

I'm probably getting a 8700

so idk about the unlocking part

[lofty light]

Non K?

[lime pollen]

non k

nty 60$

[latent light]

surprised you aren't waiting for next gen ryzen announcement tomorrow lol

[lofty light]

Ah, then I'd not bother with the Z

[lime pollen]

I'm hyped for ryzen but

hyperthreading is niceu

[lofty light]

Ryzen should at least cut prices

[lime pollen]

yeah

you know how intel is trying to cut out AMD?

making the 8700 the same price as the ryzen 2700x

[lofty light]

All ryzen CPUs have their version of hyperthreading?

[lime pollen]

I don't recall ryzen cpus having that

I'm not used to amd

[lofty light]

They do

[latent light]

it's called SMT

[lime pollen]

ahhh

[lofty light]

Yup

But it's the same thing

[latent light]

my Ryzen 5 1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads

[lime pollen]

I see I see

[latent light]

paid $150 for it

[lofty light]

Good price

[lime pollen]

[lofty light]

I got a 2600 for my bro

[latent light]

2600 is around $160 now

[lime pollen]

mm

[lofty light]

Came from some old crappy i5 and it's an incredible boost

Like a 4400

[lime pollen]

We'll see ig

I'm making a new build

[lofty light]

Building PC's is the best

[lime pollen]

yes

[latent light]

im going to make an all-white build

[lime pollen]

nzxt has some nice cases for white

[latent light]

well

white and cyan/purple

[steep gust]

Gigabyte has the best Z390 boards @lime pollen

[lime pollen]

mmmm

I'll have to dwell on it

[untold geode]

nerddddsss

nerddsss

🤓

[latent light]

read this

try not to get brain cancer

[lime pollen]

yeah that's a yikes from me fam

[latent light]

I think I'm more excited for a new Raspberry Pi model than CES announcements

the day I can play gamecube games at 60 fps on a system the size of my palm, the day my PC collects dust

[lofty light]

Lol, I too want an i7 6600k

[steep gust]

uh yeah I have a 8600k (@5.0ghz) and a 1080 and get a rock solid 120-140fps

I eel like that dude is playing at a higher resolution

oh wait >5 months ago

[latent light]

was the beta probably

or alpha

[latent light]

[sullen lichen]

See that is nice

[lofty light]

Beautiful af ❤

Tried to make my mini case like that but it's too dark

[lime pollen]

that's really lit my dude

👌

[foggy shadow]

Anyone know if Nvidia adding support for freesync will work on older models than the 10-series?

[latent light]

thing is, FreeSync will only be compatible through drivers and it will be only supported on 12 specific monitors

Acer XFA240
Acer XZ321Q
Acer xg270HU
Acer XV273K
Asus VG258Q
Asus MG278Q
Asus XG258
Asus XG248
Asus VG278Q
Agon AG241QG4
AOC G2590FX
BenQ XL2740

these specifically

[foggy shadow]

They said you could enable it manually too, right?

[minor turret]

freesync will most likely work according to specs given on monitor

[foggy shadow]

But those 12 would be certified from the start

[minor turret]

but will not have full gsync range that rated monitors get, or other quality issues

[foggy shadow]

From what I understood freesync doesn't have the same standards on manufacturers as gsync, so perhaps they will go through monitors to see which ones would work and certify them

[lofty light]

Yes that's the case

Those 12 will have it turned on by default BUT you will have the option to turn it on for all other freesync monitors with varying benefits apparently

[minor turret]

just gimme drivers to tinker with it already

[foggy shadow]

What was a little unclear to me was whether this was strictly for 10 and 20-series cards or whether e.g my 970 would have the feature (with varying benefits, like you said for monitors)

[prime jasper]

hype hype

[storm osprey]

ooo shit amd ces today

[prime jasper]

10 minutes

[storm osprey]

what time?

dope

im at work

might stream it in background

[prime jasper]

here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bibZyMjY2K4

[storm osprey]

yo tech chat, amd ces soon

youre late amd

yooooooo

we live

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bibZyMjY2K4

[storm osprey]

7nm!

[storm osprey]

god damnit talk about gaming

[latent light]

mobile is more important for their market share

[storm osprey]

"another important group for pcs"

god damnit

[red ingot]

[storm osprey]

you watching?

[red ingot]

Any good highlights

Just jumping on rn

[storm osprey]

nothing relevant to us

[sonic osprey]

where is the navi, where is ryzen 3xxx on desktop

[storm osprey]

^

[sonic osprey]

30minutes in and not a word on those

[red ingot]

[sonic osprey]

guess they gonna summarize it in last 5min

[red ingot]

Rip

Thus why I havent been watching lol

[storm osprey]

right now it was an intro and they are just talking about the places amd is important

[red ingot]

The first 30m or so is usually a bunch of crap

Even rn it's a bunch of crap

[storm osprey]

its the same as its been

they just talking about the areas like mobile or visual rendering that they effect

[red ingot]

Sigh

[storm osprey]

fucking finally

if she goes off track im not getting amd ever

[crude storm]

here we go

give it to me

[storm osprey]

my body is ready

[latent light]

phil spencer

[storm osprey]

sounds like they are starting with console first...

[latent light]

lmfao

[sonic osprey]

"we have new x box with amd"

[latent light]

I wasn't expecting him

[storm osprey]

xbox two announced

or xbox one x2

did he just drop roblox?

his main competition for minecraft?

[latent light]

[red ingot]

Sigh

Okay well I just missed 5m

I'm on comcast rn...

Rip

[storm osprey]

booo

[red ingot]

Ikr

In Naples rn

[storm osprey]

tf

[sonic osprey]

why

[red ingot]

[sonic osprey]

how you play bfv in there?

[red ingot]

I dont

:(

[sonic osprey]

my point exactly, why

[red ingot]

On vacation lol

[storm osprey]

why

[sonic osprey]

stay home, play bfv

win win

[red ingot]

Shit I think my internet just dropped again

[storm osprey]

on vacation, watches ces

[latent light]

[sonic osprey]

the stream is really low quality and dropped few times :D

[storm osprey]

the stream im watching on youtube is solid

[latent light]

hasn't dropped at all

[sonic osprey]

720p = solid?

[storm osprey]

im actually "watching" at 144p because im not watching

just listening

im at work

[sonic osprey]

well im watching at 144p from time to time too

best resolution ever

[red ingot]

Shit I think my internet just dropped again

On vacation lol

[storm osprey]

i miss 360p

[latent light]

phil spencer talks a lot

[storm osprey]

360p master race

[sonic osprey]

480p was where it was best

[red ingot]

And hey CES is important

[storm osprey]

i think su is trying to get phil to shut up lol

[red ingot]

Plus literally everyone here rn is on their phone or tablets

Dr Phil ain't gonna be quiet

[storm osprey]

its not even his showing!

590...

ew

[red ingot]

O.o

I remember the 590

[storm osprey]

she said 590 is deemed the best 1080p gpu

no one cheered

[red ingot]

[unborn isle]

"1080p gaming champion" what are we talking about..

[red ingot]

Ikr

[latent light]

1080p 60 fps

[red ingot]

Old news

[unborn isle]

actually a joke

[red ingot]

This is 2019

[sonic osprey]

60fps is enough for everyone -Lisa Su, 2019

[storm osprey]

590 just binned 580s at stupid pwer draw

[red ingot]

What are we, console gamers?

[storm osprey]

yea, thats what we deemed champion

[latent light]

it's not binned 580

it's a whole different chip

[unborn isle]

how does amd fuck up so many times

[prime jasper]

lol

[minor turret]

💤 💤 💤

wake me when desktop CPUs get announced

[storm osprey]

fucking finally

[latent light]

[minor turret]

navis gonna be shit anyway

[unborn isle]

new gpu

[storm osprey]

gpus about to announce

[prime jasper]

i think im behind on the stream

[latent light]

"Navi is going to be shit"

-fanboy

[minor turret]

nah realism

i expect amd to smash on on ryzen front

but navi is gonna be huge meh

[prime jasper]

fuck radeon software

[sonic osprey]

the design on the card reminds of soviet union though

[latent light]

Vega 2

[storm osprey]

looks like a block

i like it

[minor turret]

fuck me its not navi

wow

[unborn isle]

RADEON 7

@latent light

[latent light]

it's Vega, not navi

[unborn isle]

???????????

[prime jasper]

wheres ryzen and vega

[latent light]

later

Vega is first

[prime jasper]

ohh nvm i think im 2 minutes behind

[storm osprey]

25% more performance at same power...

hmmmm

[minor turret]

a 1080 ti

but watch them increase power draw so its slightly competitive

[unborn isle]

imo they're just going to fucking gnome us and it's just going to be overclocked vega

[storm osprey]

its 7nm though...

[latent light]

you can't expect 2080 Ti performance whenever AMD budget in the GPU division is only 1/3rd of Nvidia

[minor turret]

4k benchmarks 💤

you dont buy this card for 4k anyway

[crude storm]

i dont?

[storm osprey]

dmc5

dope

[prime jasper]

workstation gpu like the cpu

epic gamers

[latent light]

I already got DMC5 from buying a rx 580 lol

[storm osprey]

100+ fps on ultra settings at 4k...

[prime jasper]

no framerate numbers

[storm osprey]

top left

it was showing 100-115

[sonic osprey]

70-115

[minor turret]

no more like 70-85 when he was fighting mobs

[storm osprey]

ah ddidnt see that part

[minor turret]

100-120 when looking at empty landscape

[prime jasper]

my discord is on top left

[storm osprey]

still though... thats impressive

well, depends on price

[sonic osprey]

they had image of benchmark on bfv 2080 vs r7 and both like 62fps

[prime jasper]

i want battelfield 5

[unborn isle]

ugh ubisoft

[prime jasper]

no one cares about mc5

[storm osprey]

dmc5?

[prime jasper]

ye

[minor turret]

but it has what 16 gb of memory?

[storm osprey]

thats a pretty popular series

[minor turret]

it wont be cheap

[unborn isle]

it wont be under 700 euro

100%

[sonic osprey]

700-800usd

[prime jasper]

oof

[minor turret]

lisa is pissed at ubi guy

lol

[prime jasper]

ubsifot

c

p

u

[sonic osprey]

watching 4k video in youtube at 720p

[minor turret]

using a fucking console controller

for this

shame

[unborn isle]

^

[prime jasper]

ibet the cpu is in that controller

[storm osprey]

they smash controller in "anger" and reveals new cpu

[minor turret]

lisa wants to chase that dude away

[prime jasper]

cuz u need 5ghz on a controller

[minor turret]

he is using up her precious keynote time

[latent light]

wasting her time with division 2

who's gonna buy that

first one was pretty bad

[sonic osprey]

people who played division 1

[prime jasper]

they dont want to anouce cpus maybe bc its a disapointment

stalling

[latent light]

best for last

[minor turret]

everyone is watching it for ryzen

[prime jasper]

i got no time

[sonic osprey]

free division 2

[latent light]

no company reveals their best products in the start

[minor turret]

no one expects hot stuff from gpu section

[latent light]

is this your first time watching CES?

[prime jasper]

hurthxhfguytsdhgiusyudthusydgy

[crude storm]

did i miss the price for the gpu?

[storm osprey]

didnt hear it

[sonic osprey]

nope

[prime jasper]

talk about cpu

[minor turret]

@crude storm 1099 pre tax

usd

[sonic osprey]

@minor turret wut where was the price?

[prime jasper]

whats next sponsoring from adobe?

lol

the ryzen boxes look the same

[minor turret]

im just pulling a random number

[prime jasper]

oh nvm

c

p

[minor turret]

i would bet 899 MSRP with it being 100-200 usd more expensive at launch

[prime jasper]

u

[minor turret]

fucking fnatic at hardware CES

wtf

fuck off please

[latent light]

saying Esports is a sport

[prime jasper]

lol

unless its about ryzen nop

epic imovie trailler

[storm osprey]

frame wates

[prime jasper]

wam

wyzen

[latent light]

wadeon

[storm osprey]

whats the recommended amount of dedotated wam for server

[prime jasper]

no fake

low settings make no diffrince

he said famewates lmao

suppowt

fake

120 fps on low settings is good

[minor turret]

if all benchmarks are for 4k i wonder how much is down to better memory bandwidth with radeon 7

[prime jasper]

epicc gamers

[storm osprey]

699$ feb 7th for radeon 7 gpu

[latent light]

$699

[storm osprey]

comes with re2, dmc 5, and div 2

[unborn isle]

this is a fucking joke

???????

i hope this is a fucking joke

[storm osprey]

?

[prime jasper]

theyre selling amd stuff hard

[storm osprey]

they gonna sell intel stuff?

[minor turret]

@unborn isle you fucked up bruh

[prime jasper]

lol rip

[minor turret]

even with tax its 699 euro

[sonic osprey]

its gonna be more from retail, maybe 800e in europe

[prime jasper]

fff

699 nopp

atleast they cheared

ryzen??

nvm

[minor turret]

there will be a cheaper variant thats actually priced "okay"

[storm osprey]

so for 700 you can get 1080ti perf with amd or for 700 you can get 1080ti perf with rtx with 2080?

[prime jasper]

google??

lol

[crude storm]

you can have a 2080 with rtx and dlss for 700

[latent light]

here it comes

[prime jasper]

chrome browser

[minor turret]

2080 msrp is 800

[prime jasper]

rip ram

[minor turret]

and retailers want extra

[storm osprey]

i see 2080 on pcpartpicker atm for 700ish

720 for the cheapest i would actually get

[latent light]

probably a blower style

[storm osprey]

blower is 700

[prime jasper]

it will probably be on chromecast

[latent light]

2080 with blower will run at 90C

[minor turret]

link blower

[prime jasper]

well that was a little underwhelming

[latent light]

unless fan is going all the way

[prime jasper]

they aren't even talking about the mid range

[storm osprey]

oh shit

nvm this isnt blower

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qMKcCJ/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-8gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n2080gaming-oc-8gc

[prime jasper]

hmm adoredtv got it wrong ok

cpu????

pls

[latent light]

the stream isn't over

[prime jasper]

ik

[minor turret]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WNF48d/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-8gb-turbo-video-card-turbo-rtx2080-8g for 699

[storm osprey]

670 for gigabyte 3 fan 2080

[prime jasper]

im 2 minutes behind on stream

ya right but if they're doing 2080 perf for 700 then i doubt they'll do 2070 perf for 250

cpuuuu?

[storm osprey]

vega different than navi

[prime jasper]

are they going to talk about navi here

[storm osprey]

vega is supposed to be their titan equivalent imo

[prime jasper]

even then it looks a little underwhelming

epicc

finally a proccesser

[storm osprey]

i mean, titan perf in gaming and perf for creating at 700 is solid...

[prime jasper]

epicc

or you could just get a 2080 for 100 dollars more

[crude storm]

2080 incl tax https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-MSI-GeForce-RTX-2080-VENTUS-8G-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1281269.html 670 Euro

[minor turret]

rip amd

[unborn isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/185647255028629505/532621688450580540/unknown.png

lmao

[prime jasper]

no one wants epicc we want ryzen

[latent light]

Epyc is important for AMD

more important than Ryzen

[prime jasper]

ok lol

[latent light]

consumers are only 10% of the market

mobile and servers are 90%

[prime jasper]

but i thought they love gamers??

[minor turret]

http://i.4cdn.org/g/1547056221237.png i understand that they are prob going for temps

but that heatsink behind fans looks ugly af

[prime jasper]

they also love super computers

and helping the world be better

[latent light]

looks like a normal heatsink lol

[minor turret]

you paint it

MAKE IT TACTICOOL

[unborn isle]

THIS IS SO EPIC

[prime jasper]

epycc

[storm osprey]

i want 7nm consumer cpu amd

deliver!

[prime jasper]

ryzen now?

[storm osprey]

still talking epyc

server cpu

[prime jasper]

ik after this?

[storm osprey]

🤷

[latent light]

64 cores/128 thread Epyc CPU cheaper than a 28-core Xeon CPU

[red ingot]

So

[latent light]

[red ingot]

No gaming news

I stopped watching a while ago

🤷

[prime jasper]

1 ghz on all cores lol

[red ingot]

Wat

[storm osprey]

if i cared about server stuff epyc would be cool

[prime jasper]

its a joke

[red ingot]

1ghz

[minor turret]

i really wish AMD lowered amount of memory

and lowered price

[storm osprey]

how is it a joke when the end result is 1 amd cpu is better than two intel cpus?

[red ingot]

Is it?

[sonic osprey]

:D?

[storm osprey]

according to the benchmark they just showed

[red ingot]

Hn

[sonic osprey]

"we put more cores in this thing"

[red ingot]

Hm

[prime jasper]

im slow pn time

[storm osprey]

ONE MORE BIG THING

[prime jasper]

but its not really relevant to anyone here

oh

hmm

yess

[storm osprey]

RYZEN

[latent light]

Ryzen

[minor turret]

RYZEN

[prime jasper]

thyere still talking about epyc

[latent light]

[minor turret]

WOKE UP

[storm osprey]

ITS ON RYZEN

[prime jasper]

help

im 2 minutes late

[minor turret]

NOW SHOW RYZEN 3700X SMASHING 9900K

OR BUST

[storm osprey]

7nm ryzen!

[minor turret]

16 cores 5 ghz

GO

HYPE

[unborn isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/185647255028629505/532623200928923668/1547056437130.png?width=1443&height=648

COME ON RYZEN

AAAAAAAA

COME ON

[sonic osprey]

16cores, 1 turbo to 5ghz, rest 4ghz?

[prime jasper]

ok im here

ryzenn

smash 2 9600ks?

[storm osprey]

thatd be dope

for the same price xD

[prime jasper]

lol

[crude storm]

pixelbrei

[minor turret]

"press x to view"

@sonic osprey fuck no 16 cores 5ghz all core boost

or bust

[prime jasper]

12 cores 5ghz i think

[sonic osprey]

goodluck cooling that

[minor turret]

💯

[storm osprey]

comparison benchmarks

[prime jasper]

pls

ryzen 7 and 9

the guys

YES

[storm osprey]

3rd gen ryzen vs 9900k

[prime jasper]

oh cinebench

[storm osprey]

8c16t

[latent light]

7nm is 40% more power efficient than 12nm, 50% more than 14nm

[prime jasper]

cmon lets goooooooooooooo

[minor turret]

im hoping is that this card is vega frontier

and that proper cheaper version comes out later

[storm osprey]

cinebench ryzen win with lower power draw

[prime jasper]

10

[storm osprey]

ryzen final speed tbd

[prime jasper]

i like eating chips

ugly

oh under the hood

[latent light]

woah that CPU die

[minor turret]

amd needs that big black blob to give NSA access to your pc

prove me wrong

[prime jasper]

when is specc

i wana see 5ghz

[storm osprey]

TBD

[violet plank]

i would be happy with 4.5 all core 😛

[storm osprey]

launch mid 2019

for ryzen

[sonic osprey]

[prime jasper]

thats sad

[sonic osprey]

classic

[minor turret]

4.5 would be 💤

unless big ipc improvement

[prime jasper]

il just buy a 2700x

[sonic osprey]

3months from first leaks and people are waiting for release still for about 6months+

[violet plank]

next gen intel desktop will be 2020,no worries 😛

[storm osprey]

i mean... they are doing better than intel

[violet plank]

i do hope so

[latent light]

Intel 10nm desktop CPUs come out 2020

[minor turret]

no intel will improve solder and boost clocks even more for 10999k

[storm osprey]

intel said 10nm was coming out when? 2015?

[latent light]

mobile 10nm Q4 2019

[violet plank]

ye,first roadmap was about 2015 😄

[storm osprey]

and that was announced when?

[violet plank]

in their wet dreams 😛

[storm osprey]

and we are bagging amd for doing all this within months?

[minor turret]

inb4 amd stock price drops

[prime jasper]

bye

[violet plank]

i'd be happy if amd gets ryzen q3 2019 on the market

[storm osprey]

welp, that was average

[prime jasper]

now throw the chips

[sonic osprey]

anyone got screen cap of the cinebench that could be readable?

[prime jasper]

thats music

best music

[sonic osprey]

I mean it had no info on what exact spec the ryzen was

[storm osprey]

nah, didnt see that

[prime jasper]

they hid it

[storm osprey]

but it was slightly faster at about 30% less power

[prime jasper]

im guessing ryzen 5

[sonic osprey]

there was the windows cpu graph

[violet plank]

slightly ? sounds bad 😦

[prime jasper]

bc thats gotta be 8 cores

[storm osprey]

vs a 9900k?!

it was 8c16t

[prime jasper]

ik

[violet plank]

no info about tpd ?

couldn't watch the stream :/

[prime jasper]

then ryzen 7 will no have 12 cors

[storm osprey]

id bet the cpu they used was definitely cheaper than 9900k

[sonic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/ee1935f4a39982a241e4f3c9876d9f18

almost readable from the potato quality

[storm osprey]

so for being cheaper, being faster, with lower draw, we say "only"

[prime jasper]

navi when

[minor turret]

@storm osprey cinebench said 9900k

there is no doubt

[sonic osprey]

"amd ??? sample 3rd gen ryzen"?

[latent light]

it's a 9900K boosting to turbo frequency vs a 3rd gen Ryzen early sample 8c/16t CPU

[minor turret]

unless they are trying to deceive people

[storm osprey]

i know its 9900k

we dont know the ryzen though

[prime jasper]

i guess 10nm intel will actually start to look interesting now

[sonic osprey]

hey in 6months you can get 9900k's cheaper too

[storm osprey]

we just have to see whats cheaper when both are available

[prime jasper]

is it worth waiting 6 months?

[latent light]

10nm Intel mobile CPUs come out at the last quarter of this year

[prime jasper]

rx 3080 at 2070 performance hahaha

[latent light]

10nm desktop CPUs in 2020

[storm osprey]

depending on what you want

[prime jasper]

i didnt know adoredtv could fuck up that bad

[storm osprey]

theres no universal "yes its worth waiting" scenario

[prime jasper]

i thoought it was gonna be on febuary'

[latent light]

how did Adored fuck up?

[prime jasper]

i cant wait that long rip

[violet plank]

9900k in summer?i don't wann melt on the pc 😄

[prime jasper]

do you really think amd is going to push out an rx 3080 for 250 dollars

[storm osprey]

i called 300-350

[minor turret]

amd does not do charity

[storm osprey]

for the record

[minor turret]

it will be competitive but not cheap

[storm osprey]

even at those prices they are undermining nvidia a shit ton

[sonic osprey]

yea, just look at the price on r7

[prime jasper]

not when you realise turing is offering a lot more

[sonic osprey]

its basically balanced to price out the 2080/1080ti variants

[storm osprey]

aka titan variants

which titan variants are 1k+

[minor turret]

@storm osprey they do not considering you can get 2080 with tax for 680 euros

that includes 25% vat

[prime jasper]

ya but it'll probably be lower than 700 thats just msrp

2080 msrp was 799

[storm osprey]

they kept saying vega 7 was a creators card

so im comparing it vs titans

which it goes against, at much cheaper price

(seemingly)

[prime jasper]

when will we see navi?

[storm osprey]

dont think amd has that answer yet either

[minor turret]

im sure it will be awesome for mining

and it will sell well for mining

and it will not go below msrp

[storm osprey]

mining a thing?

[sonic osprey]

minecraft

[storm osprey]

i thought that was basically dead

lol

4k minecraft

[minor turret]

if it improves performance vs kwh enough

then yes mining is a thing

[storm osprey]

vs price

the 1060 was the sweet spot for mining on gtx 10xx cards

[minor turret]

but amd while it was available was the sweetspot

[prime jasper]

i really like amd but it looks like they're always trying to compete with the last generation

[storm osprey]

imo, thats not a bad idea

at least for gpu

they should essentially replace what "Gtx 12xx" series should be at the price it should be

[sullen lichen]

Ok not read or seen it yet are we happy or sad?

[storm osprey]

neutral

nothing was really given

they didnt talk about navi gpus

[prime jasper]

i dont think they should've shown off their "content creation solution" for ces, i doubt many people will actually care
they should've talked about navi and the midrange, saved r7 for another keynote

[storm osprey]

so that part was sad

[sullen lichen]

As expected, I'll have a watch in a bit

[storm osprey]

r7 looks good for its purpose, but that doesnt apply to consumers

[latent light]

they didn't show us specific Ryzen CPUs but they probably will in a few days time

[storm osprey]

most consumers

ryzen 7nm looks good for workstation as expected

[prime jasper]

nothing they've shown applies to consumers except ryzen gen 2 which was one cinebench run running slightly higher
they could've atleast oc'd it a little to match the i9's power usage

[storm osprey]

it would be interesting to see if the ryzen they put against 9900k was a r5

they did show ryzen in that racing game

[prime jasper]

if it were an r5 i think they would've made it clear it was

[latent light]

it likely was if the leaks about the higher core counts are true

[storm osprey]

but it was at 4k with v7 soo

[prime jasper]

fh4 was running at 1080p

[storm osprey]

cpu not important

it was?

[prime jasper]

1080p max yeah

[storm osprey]

didnt catch that

fps counter?

[sonic osprey]

it smells quite fishy they did not say what frequency the ryzen was running, just said "early sample, not final frequency"... so could have been running really high frequency, instead of final "consumer friendly" frequency

[prime jasper]

near 100

well above 100

[storm osprey]

is that good for basically a 1080ti and a ryzen cpu?

idk how fh4 runs

[prime jasper]

pretty much, but you're not really saving much

fh4 is pretty well optimised i think

[sonic osprey]

@latent light they said ryzen cpus will be released mid2019

[storm osprey]

what im saying is how does that compare to their counterparts?

[prime jasper]

the devil may cry benchmark was a little fishy too, they only stayed in one section and moved the camera in a specific direction so it'd stay above 100

um

one sec lemme find some benchmarks

[storm osprey]

thanks dude, im at work so cant get too off track

[prime jasper]

~115fps 1080ti + i7 6700k

so yeah essentially the same

[latent light]

mid 2019 is a good time to launch

[prime jasper]

their hype train died so i think they should've tried releasing sooner

[latent light]

release sooner so the drivers are bugged?

[storm osprey]

would have been better, usually is, but given intel released 9th gen recently this would have been good timing

[latent light]

if Intel launches a new gen this year it will be a refresh

[sonic osprey]

intel could launch non soldered cpus with DIY liquid metal, so separated chip and spreader

[storm osprey]

seems im not upgrading till fall..

lame

[latent light]

although 10nm Intel mobile CPUs are rumored for Q4 2019

[prime jasper]

i guess intel wont be able to compete for 2019 but i was really only interested about navi

[sonic osprey]

huh? wont be able to compete for 2019?

[latent light]

Navi is mid-range

[sonic osprey]

i mean intel will lead at least HALF of the year with cpu perf in gaming

[prime jasper]

ya im broke bro

oh good point

[storm osprey]

intel will lead in gaming perf probably for forever

[latent light]

more people care about price over raw performance

which is why Ryzen has been selling more than Intel since October

[storm osprey]

slightly behind in gaming, but costs less, and better everywhere else

(once oc'ed)

[sonic osprey]

:P

[latent light]

Intel 9th gen IPC is only 8% ahead than Ryzen 2nd gen

[prime jasper]

polaris was really the only amd gpu launch i was really satisfied with

rx 480 was a beast

[latent light]

RX 480 was only $200 when it launched I think

[prime jasper]

yeah 200-250

[storm osprey]

if amd does the logical thing, they will do good, not in part to what they did, but mostly nvidia releasing rtx

[prime jasper]

for 970 performance

[sonic osprey]

depends on the price on r7 on retail, its like 2080 but without rtx and dlss

so it all comes to how much do you value those

[prime jasper]

rx 3080 will have to be $400+

considering how the r7 is priced

that is, if the 3080 even offers faster performance than a vega 64

[sonic osprey]

vega64 is like 1080?

[prime jasper]

ye

about 10% slower i think

[storm osprey]

but r7 is geared like the titan

[sonic osprey]

so yeah, maybe they will release something like a replacement for vega 64 on 7nm

[storm osprey]

titan perf is same as 1080ti roughly

[latent light]

Vega 64 is equal/more than 1080 in DX12 and Vulkan API

[storm osprey]

its not the same thing comparing r7 to 2080

[prime jasper]

well if it is i think it was a bad move to advertise it as a gaming card

[storm osprey]

they didnt

[prime jasper]

i think it was a bad move to announce it at ces in general

[storm osprey]

they called it a creators card or something

[prime jasper]

creator and gaming solution or whatever

[storm osprey]

and said "i know that youre wondering about gaming" and showed that

its geared like the titan

[sonic osprey]

"the creators" I took that like Nvidias "Founders edition"

[storm osprey]

like ive been saying

[prime jasper]

well i hope it is i guess

[latent light]

she said "for creators" at least 5 times in the Vega 7 announcement

[storm osprey]

^

[latent light]

but it comes with 3 games so

[storm osprey]

yes, because people still buy them for gaming

even though its not logical

[sonic osprey]

yeah, that is a plus for who wants those games

[latent light]

DMC5 will be fun

[storm osprey]

anyone hating on those games FOR FREE is a fool

i wouldnt buy them for more than 20 each personally

(hell even then i probably wont)

[red ingot]

So uh

[storm osprey]

but its weird people try to spin those games as negatives

[red ingot]

Anything big

[sonic osprey]

nope

[red ingot]

damn

[sonic osprey]

carry on with your 9700k brah

[red ingot]

[sonic osprey]

good choice

[red ingot]

No way I'm upgrading for at least 5 years

Regardless of what's announced

[latent light]

Resident Evil 2 remake and Devil May Cry 5 are pretty exciting, the Division 2 is probably a flop

[red ingot]

But still curious

[storm osprey]

vega 7 is taking on titan cards for much cheaper, ryzen 3 has nothing determined other than it seems ok for gaming, really good for workstations

[sonic osprey]

I might upgrade in few years if intel does something superb

or amd

[red ingot]

Yeah

Like

Minimum 3 years for me

But most likely 5

[storm osprey]

ill be upgrading this year

next at most

[red ingot]

3 only if something crazy superb happens

Which I doubt tbh

[sonic osprey]

but summa summarum, might get the 2080ti with waterblock, sell this msi trio 2080 and get both cpu+gpu water cooled and do some oc

[red ingot]

Nice

[sonic osprey]

this trio is too long for cases to fit reservoir properly

[red ingot]

Damn Haha

[latent light]

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-35-709-117&ignorebbr=1&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-DIY+Cooling-_-9B-35-709-117&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1NbhBRCBARIsAKOTmUsT8vSJKblFeg1x0ZHGCeqnnDKpgNDseM4KrfWB8kR_iGHZ9ZPHyt4aAptiEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

would you replace a radiator with this

this thing confuses me

[red ingot]

It has rgb

So it has my vote

[latent light]

it looks like a reservoir that's the same size as a rad so

also has the aluminum fins

[sonic osprey]

they should build water cooled rig with res space in the case itself

with rbg tubing

around the case

[latent light]

they have 120mm and 140mm reservoirs that sit in fan positions

these kind of reservoirs are nice to look at