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steep gust
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also update GPU drivers

prime jasper
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Wow

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That is fucking depressing

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Nvidia really went all out with this one

lime pollen
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seen these earlier

prime jasper
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NVIDIA = The new Apple for the GPU market

lime pollen
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yea

latent light
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$50 more than a 1070 MSRP at launch

prime jasper
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Hell, even worse than Apple

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This is a great meme

lime pollen
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ever since the stupid mining meme

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they just

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stopped being fair with prices

prime jasper
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God bless my soul for buying a 1070ti when I did

lime pollen
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bought a 1070 oc for 400

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back in like

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late 2016

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now I just can't upgrade it

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because these prices are awful

prime jasper
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I really hope those AMD GPU rumors are true, lol

latent light
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AMD mid-range prices have been great for like 7 months now

lime pollen
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yeah

latent light
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but vega prices are still pretty bad

prime jasper
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If so NVIDIA is going to be hemorrhaging money

lime pollen
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I'm just disappointed in them

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was expecting prices to dip somewhat for the gtx 10's

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not even close

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big sigh

prime jasper
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100%

lime pollen
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fuck off nvidia

prime jasper
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I was so hyped for RTX, lol

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I was going to dump a paycheck into a new card but

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Thats a big yikes from me dawg

lime pollen
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mhm mhm

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I mean

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the rtx 2070 is actually a cheaper

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1080

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with slightly more power

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but it's like

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buying inflated prices, especially for a launch card that doesn't yet support games for its gimmick

prime jasper
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Only because 10xx stock has dried up, due to people realizing RTX is a meme

lime pollen
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no ty

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yea

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I was gonna buy a 1080ti

prime jasper
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SAME LOL

lime pollen
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when I thought the prices were gonna dip

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but fuck me

prime jasper
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SAME

lime pollen
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they're fucking

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1000+

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fuck off nvidia

prime jasper
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1070ti was meant to be temporary but NOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Lol

lime pollen
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l m a o

prime jasper
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Nvidia pulled a fast one

lime pollen
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it's awful

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yeah

prime jasper
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10xx stock dried up

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And rip

latent light
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they wanted to get rid of Pascal stock but they didn't even drop prices at all

steep gust
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what

latent light
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fucking ngreedia

lime pollen
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I was looking at pricing ranges between cards

steep gust
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they stop production

lime pollen
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and at this point

steep gust
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months ago

lime pollen
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a 1070 should be like

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300$

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but it is now

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only when it's on sale

steep gust
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Because there is no stock

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GP104 or whatever die the 1080 / 1070 etc use is no longer in production

lime pollen
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ahh

steep gust
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and hasn't been for months which is why they quickly sold out when Turing was announced

lime pollen
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I was planning on rebuilding my comp in the beginning of january, planned this around october and expected prices for gpus to drop, but I guess I gotta port over my gpu or hope for amd lmao

latent light
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Vega production stopped last month or in october but you can still find a Vega 56 for $400

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with 3 free games

lime pollen
prime jasper
lime pollen
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using games to boost prices

prime jasper
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Nice meme

lime pollen
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holy fuck lmao

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$1,928 on sale

latent light
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prime jasper
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Heres the used section as well

latent light
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Vega 64 for only $400 and 3 games

lime pollen
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i'm dead

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boosted market lmao

prime jasper
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Say thanks to Nvidia

steep gust
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yeah

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but

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BLOWER

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eww

lime pollen
prime jasper
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Can't even blame miners at this point

lime pollen
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BLOWER

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BLOWER

latent light
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blow me

lime pollen
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with the wattage usage

latent light
lime pollen
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on the new cards

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l m a o

steep gust
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Same as the old ones

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They don't exceed TDP if you don't let them

lime pollen
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checking to make sure but

latent light
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Ryzen 3 has a TDP of 65W but even the 1300X will stay around 50-55 watts on boost

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HWMonitor says my 1600 consumes 90-95ish watts at 3.8 GHz 1.375v

lime pollen
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l m a o

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the evga cards suffer from artifacting and break within a week

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but dw

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you can get bfv

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

prime jasper
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I had a friend who just spent 3 grand on a new rig

latent light
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BFV makes that deal not worth it

prime jasper
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Guess what happened to his 2080ti upon first use?

lime pollen
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I love bfv but the cards are still overpriced

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LMAO

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what happened

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

prime jasper
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Hold up, imma see if I can find his screenshot of his screen

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Its totally fucked lol

latent light
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tbh, hardly anyone cares about DLSS and Ray-Tracing

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we just want higher performance every gen

lime pollen
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I actually enjoy the ray tracing

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but it's very inefficient

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in usage

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draws out a good portion of your fps

steep gust
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@latent light Source on all cards dying within a week?

latent light
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I didn;t say that

steep gust
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the evga cards suffer from artifacting and break within a week

lime pollen
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damn

latent light
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not my quote

lime pollen
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can you see my name or

steep gust
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wrong person

lime pollen
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๐Ÿค”

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yeah

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go on newegg and read the evga reviews

latent light
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EVGA got the big gay

steep gust
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yeah

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reviews are not accurate

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RMA stats are

lime pollen
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lmao okay

prime jasper
steep gust
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Less than 1% of most AIB 2080TIs are RMA'ed

lime pollen
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that is a niceu setup

steep gust
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People only leave reviews when they have an issue

flint locust
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nice cat

lime pollen
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I got my friend a h500

steep gust
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I know for a fact I'm never left a single review

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even when I love a product

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too much effort

prime jasper
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Anyways hes having to send his card back, since it was basically DOA

lime pollen
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that sucks

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yea

prime jasper
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Yeah, he has a couple of cute pussies

lime pollen
latent light
lime pollen
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my build is almost done

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I don't think I'll change the gpu

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because of these

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prices

prime jasper
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Same

lime pollen
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nvidia has the big stupid

latent light
prime jasper
lime pollen
steep gust
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RX580s are cheap

latent light
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got my RX 580 for $200 and got 2 games

prime jasper
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Oh yeah, 580s arent bad

latent light
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a lot of 580s have trash coolers

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2 fans are deceiving whenever the heatsink under is thin as fuck

lime pollen
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rx 580s are good if you dont have a higher ranged gpu

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

prime jasper
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Yup

steep gust
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580 is the perfect 1080p 60hz-75hz card

latent light
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580 is more futureproof than the 1060 tbh and not because of more vram

steep gust
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because you can flash a XOC bios on it and let it draw like 440w

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ez overclocking

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might kill the card but shh

latent light
lime pollen
latent light
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isn't the RX 580 close to the GTX 1070 when it comes down to raw GPU compute?

lime pollen
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uh

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I don't think so

steep gust
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raw gpu compute doesn't mean much for gaming

lime pollen
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^

steep gust
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See the Titan V

lime pollen
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I'll just check benchmarks for now

steep gust
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or GV100

lime pollen
steep gust
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userbenchmark is not the best source

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Since most people don't buy founder edition GPUs and a lot of 580s suck

lime pollen
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

latent light
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that benchmark also includes the 4GB 580s

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since there isn't a separate choice for the 4GB and 8GB models

lime pollen
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^

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I just picked whatever

tawny venture
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ooof

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i've tried gpu driver updates now and directx

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and repairing my game now again

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still didint work TT

lime pollen
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does it still give you a directx error?

tawny venture
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yeee

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TT

lime pollen
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what kind of gpu do you have

tawny venture
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a 650 ti boost

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it worked fine

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before

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xd

lime pollen
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hmm

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maybe refer to this site

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if you haven't

tawny venture
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ohh okay! ill try!

lime pollen
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if you have win 10

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it might be the game trying to use it with direct x 12

tawny venture
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ahhh yess i thought about that tooo

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but i dunno how to get it to run with 11

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xd

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or if thats even possible

lime pollen
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you can

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it has to deal with the launch files though

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anyways try out the link ig

tawny venture
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idk it dosent work TT

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imma give up on that one

lime pollen
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oof

gaunt dragon
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I have a really fun story to post, but I think it'll get zapped since it's quite the wall of text, so have a pastebin detailing a rather weird issue I'm having: https://pastebin.com/WuG0JnQe

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It's quite funny as well, because random PC issues that happen to no one else, happen to me, apparently

red ingot
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Ri0

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Rip*

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I'd contact asus support

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They have some pretty solid support imo

queen field
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i kinda scanned through the texts

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the official site doesnt seem to host download links for their drivers anymore T_T

gaunt dragon
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I can find them fine, but I have a ghost install of a realtek driver on my system

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and I have no idea how to remove it

queen field
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have u tried going to safe mode and uninstall

gaunt dragon
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I have to find out how to uninstall it first, in regular mode, before I swap over to safe mode and uninstall it

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which, there's no uninstaller for the driver

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as I said, it's a ghost install

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you try to delete the files in the program files for it

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file(s) in use

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you try and launch any application in the folder

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all empty .exe's that do nothing

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??

prime jasper
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@gaunt dragon hey

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you still need help ?

gaunt dragon
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hello

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yeah

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i have no clue how to fix it

prime jasper
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ok wait

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let me see if I understand correctly

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you uninstalled the software yes ?

gaunt dragon
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the driver?

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Yeah, I tried too

prime jasper
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ok can you tell me from the beginning

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what is the problem

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go into private

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message

gaunt dragon
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still have no idea

narrow fable
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

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Hope that was sorted out

gaunt dragon
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Nope

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Realtek driver is still ghost installed on my PC, with Windows Audio driver being the actual driver in use, but both are being ran somehow

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Still no idea what to do

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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

narrow fable
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Hum........

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What have ye tried?

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@gaunt dragon

gaunt dragon
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Uninstalling the realtek driver, uninstalling the windows audio driver, deleting the files of the realtek driver automatically and the realtek auto driver updater

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Oh yeah, and looked on ASUS' website for proper audio drivers

narrow fable
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What motherboard have ye?

gaunt dragon
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ASUS p8b75-m

narrow fable
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Windows 10>

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?

neat nacelle
gaunt dragon
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Yes @narrow fable

mortal nacelle
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@red ingot i think i found my new case

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it even got quick charging

lofty light
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My next case will probs be a View 71

mortal nacelle
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link ?

lofty light
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GN gave it a moderately positive review

prime jasper
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!help

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i need help with a technical difficulty

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<@&174949751152836608>

strong breach
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!support

junior ploverBOT
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Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

strong breach
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Keep in mind that people are in their holidays which may slow down any kind of process

red ingot
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Ohhh fancy @mortal nacelle

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I have the fractal design meshify c

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Super sexy

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I can dm u pics if u want

dim jungle
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@red ingot I'm planning to get the meshify c too, may I ask what are your specs? and is it annoyingly small? I'm worried if I get an AIO cooler the space would be tight for the gpu

storm osprey
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you can mount the AIO cooler on the top as well

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and unless you have a 3 fan gpu it should fit if you put a rad in the front

latent light
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yoooo why the FUCK my pp hard

storm osprey
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meshify c

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in order of price

latent light
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I'm going to get a solid white case soon

storm osprey
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h500, phanteks eclipse p400s, meshify c

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meshify c comes white

latent light
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fractal design have the best cases

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in terms of thermals

steep gust
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@dim jungle As long as your GPU isn't longer than ~295mm you can front mount a 25mm fan + 25mm rad

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I have an Asus rog strix 1080 (298mm) and need like 4mm more

red ingot
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@dim jungle yeah i have an h100i mounted in the front and a 1080ti and it fits perfectly

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it is a bit tight but everything fits

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also a fits a full atx board

dim jungle
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I'm planning on an RTX 2070 strix

red ingot
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(which is what i have)

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yeah

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it can fit a full-size gpu, full-size board, and fit a front or top mounted AIO

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afaik front can fit up to a 360mm rad and top can do a 240mm

storm osprey
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^

red ingot
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i personally have a 240 mounted in the front np

steep gust
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@dim jungle You can't front mount a rad then

storm osprey
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you will lose the hdd bracket if you do 360 rad in front though

red ingot
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no?

steep gust
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also wouldn't recommend spending the extra $100 on the strix

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and you don't lose the HDD bracket

red ingot
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my 1080ti + front mounted rad fit

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and no u don't

steep gust
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I have a 1080 strix

red ingot
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there's still clearance below my 240mm rad

steep gust
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same size as the 2070

red ingot
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for a 360mm

steep gust
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I can't fit a H100i+fans with it

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on the front

red ingot
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huh

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my h100i + fans fits with my 1080ti

steep gust
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I need like 2-4mm

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WHAT BRAND

red ingot
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evga

steep gust
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evga ?

red ingot
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i dunno if the strix is bigger

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yeah

steep gust
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what one

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FTW3?

red ingot
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evga sc2

storm osprey
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if you use a 360 rad in front? pretty sure your lose the hdd bracket

red ingot
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don't think so

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but ๐Ÿคท

steep gust
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nah it slides back

storm osprey
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mine barely fits with 3 120mm fans

steep gust
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you can't remove the hdd bracket

red ingot
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3x120 is 360 tho

dim jungle
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@steep gust any recommendation other than the strix?

red ingot
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and it fits

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u said

storm osprey
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but i dont have a rad

red ingot
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hm

storm osprey
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just fans

red ingot
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i dunno

steep gust
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The SC2 is 30mm shorter than the Strix

storm osprey
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i had to squish my psu calbs to get it to fit

red ingot
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would have to look at the manual i guess

steep gust
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Buy one with the binned GPU @dim jungle

red ingot
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it would tell u there

steep gust
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They should be around $550-600 instead of $500

red ingot
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and damn the strix is that much bigger?

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shit

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yeah now that i look at it i probably have like 5mm of clearance from the end of my gpu to the fans

steep gust
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but you will have to check a review to make sure the GPU you buy has the "A" suffix after the TU104 or whatever on the die

storm osprey
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i mean, it also depends on the size if your psu

red ingot
dim jungle
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@red ingot yeah 3 fans and shit

red ingot
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psu is at the other end tho

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3 fans and shit?

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wat

storm osprey
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but yea, i barely god my hdd backkets, fans, and psu with cables to fit

steep gust
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strix has three fans not 2 so yeah its bigger

red ingot
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oh

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yeah maybe then it won't fit

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afaik the meshify c manual has the max size listed

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max gpu size

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Max 315mm with front fan mounted```
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max 315mm

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as long as your gpu length doesn't exceed that u should be fine

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all other max sizes listed there

steep gust
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with a 25mm fan

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then add 25mm for a radiator

latent light
red ingot
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ah

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lol i guess i lucked out with my gpu

steep gust
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I thought it would fit pepesmug

storm osprey
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you got a 2 fan gpu

latent light
red ingot
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yeah

steep gust
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I could probably make it

sonic osprey
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get a shorter gpu and waterblock

red ingot
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i mean i just assumed mine would fit

steep gust
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it would fit with a waterblock

red ingot
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and thankfully it did

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๐Ÿ˜„

steep gust
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the heatsink runs over the pcb

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by like 5mm

red ingot
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tbh i dont think u really need 3 fans on a gpu anyways

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kinda overkill

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my gpu never exceeds 71c with 2 fans

steep gust
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nah I love my fans at like 50%

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Can't hear them

red ingot
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u have 3 fans

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and i just have my fan curve on auto

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so idk what it is

steep gust
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yeah same

red ingot
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but w/fan curve on auto + 2 fans never exceed 71c (max load)

steep gust
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and mine doesn't overclock terribly

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it could be better

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but its not bad

red ingot
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tbh i haven't even gotten around to oc'ing mine

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but i mean it comes superclocked

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๐Ÿคท

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could defs push it more but im already getting amazing fps

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so idc much rn

steep gust
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2050mhz with just upped power limit / voltage limit and +90 on the core

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I need to undervolt it tho

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or find an xoc bios

red ingot
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but y

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why undervolt?

steep gust
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because it hits voltage limits

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so I drop to the next voltage on the turbo graph

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It'll lose like 20mv

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but I should be able to go up like 10-20mhz

red ingot
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huh

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dropping voltage will allow u to boost speed even more?

steep gust
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some times

red ingot
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interesting

steep gust
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but you have to tweak the voltage / frequency turbo boost graph

red ingot
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ic

red trellis
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Day 28 the game still crashing with c0x000005 error

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bfv.exe
1.0.68.32584
5c1007a4
nvwgf2umx.dll
25.21.14.1735
5c0f6b7f
c0000005
000000000066668d
cf4
01d49eddedf33f60
C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield V\bfv.exe
C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_e7b3660b4830c245\nvwgf2umx.dll
8c9c662e-be78-427b-aa59-522160848086

red ingot
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they'll probably have a better solution there than any of us here

north crow
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!support

red ingot
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especially if u have the exact error code

junior ploverBOT
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If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

red ingot
north crow
storm osprey
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whos that?

red ingot
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i already posted the link tho

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stealing my credit

red trellis
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its not only me wait a second

steep gust
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@red trellis Any anti virus?

red trellis
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no use

storm osprey
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they just trying to take away our points for trusted role

red trellis
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windows defender

red ingot
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heh

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ironic when i can type it out faster from memory than going !support

steep gust
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Windows Defender shouldn't be blocking BFV but make sure it isn't

red trellis
red ingot
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even if it was i doubt it'd crash from windows defender...

red trellis
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24 pages of full crashes

red ingot
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holy

steep gust
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If defender blocks it then it'll crash

red ingot
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reformat

steep gust
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or part of it

red trellis
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i dont think is the antivirus

crude storm
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ea support is upid

steep gust
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Still check your anti virus

red trellis
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its a game crash error , something is bad with the game and drivers of ryzen

crude storm
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they tell me that i have to install win10 fresh ๐Ÿ˜„

steep gust
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yeah like the fucking anti virus blocking it

red trellis
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remember the ryzen problem of bf1?

red ingot
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meh clean install fixes any software issues

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most of the time

steep gust
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googling the error code brings up mostly anti virus related issues

red trellis
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i just reinstall windows yesterday

steep gust
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full format or just windows?

red trellis
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full format

crude storm
red trellis
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yeah that link i pass

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more up

crude storm
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yes, did you through it?

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i need to downclock my ram in oder to get bf5 working

red trellis
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all my cpu is in stock mode

steep gust
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I doubt that

red trellis
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i dont oc anything

steep gust
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or your RAM was never stable to begin with

red ingot
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run memtest?

crude storm
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my ram is perfectly stable, dont start this discussion here pls

steep gust
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really?

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because it crashes BFV

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which is a nice big ole sign that it isn't stable

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so yeah run memtest with 100% of your RAM to 400% coverage and find out

red ingot
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starts discussion

steep gust
crude storm
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i have the same pc build - 63 times - you cant tell me that on the 10 machines i tried bf5 the ram is faulty

red ingot
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u built the same pc 63 times

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wat

steep gust
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yeah what

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Also yeah

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If BFV crashes at XMP settings on your RAM, its not stable

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Its that simple

red ingot
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and u tried bfv on 10 machines?

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and it didnt work on any

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the fuck

crude storm
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i crashes on all 10

steep gust
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I had no issues with BFV on multiple different RAM kits on different XMP settings

crude storm
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the ram is in the qvl

steep gust
#

QVL isn't perfect

#

I mean none of my RAM is on my QVL

#

but like Intel

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so shruganimated

crude storm
#

i did also swaped out the ram to a different kit, the same thing is happening

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different vendor, memtest all passes

steep gust
#

to 400% coverage?

crude storm
#

it is definitly a bf5 - frostbite engine - problem

steep gust
#

nah I have zero issues

#

So its clearly something you are over looking

red ingot
#

yeah

#

like

#

99% of people arent having issues

#

and 10/10 machines for u

#

are having issues

#

which is like

#

odd af

steep gust
#

I really doubt the 10 machines claim

narrow fable
steep gust
#

It was probably 10 different hardware combinations on the same motherboard or something like that pepesmug

narrow fable
#

Cant doubt Mister Dr. Phil

red ingot
#

no u cant

#

i still dont have that twitter

#

btw

latent light
#

so I may not need to RMA my RX 580 after all

#

went back a couple windows updates and its been fine for 3 days now

crude storm
#

@steep gust i will do what i always do, wait half a year and see if the problem got fixed ๐Ÿ˜„ i had almost every battlefield release problems in some way, only in battlefield 1 which i startet playing 1 year after release, i have/had no problems

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another thing what i find interesseting is, the alpha and the beta ran without any problems, the initial gamestart was without problems, after the first update the problems started for me

red ingot
#

yay

sullen lichen
#

Hi guys, back again... Game is still crashing randomly. Really frustrating

storm osprey
#

time for new pc

undone harbor
red ingot
#

so uh

#

what are the two "broken" components

#

i dont wanna sit through an 8m video for the clickbait

storm osprey
#

its a video about bf1

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i didnt watch

short crypt
#

Damn canโ€™t wait two months then imma buy the Samsung Q9FN 65โ€ QLED tv ๐Ÿ˜„

latent light
#

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9AB4R41015&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-Tyler+Direct-_-Cases+(Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form)-_-9SIA9AB4R41015&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsJfhBRCaARIsAO68ZM7g514-qVRws5tJ4l7cnBV2vj6C9cXQDTf8l7wBZmGDkJA9m3ofRJIaAkjUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Praxis WetBench - White w/ Black PMMA Accents - Newegg.com

Buy Praxis WetBench - White w/ Black PMMA Accents with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded โ„ข

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JayzTwoCentz test bench

red ingot
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lol

#

im not spending $200 on a test bench

steep gust
#

yeah I'll pass

#

tbh there is better benches

storm osprey
#

on the convo of tvs, im looking to get a mid range 4k 55" inch tv suited for gaming

#

any pitches?

#

currently looking at lg sk8000

red ingot
#

wouldn't black friday have been the best time to go?

steep gust
#

nah black Friday is bad for TVs

storm osprey
#

sales are like 50 bucks off

red ingot
#

hm

storm osprey
#

and i didnt have the means then

#

xmas and my bday soon are gonna help

red ingot
#

i saw a tv for $2000 off

#

couple days ago for boxing day (2 days ago)

storm osprey
#

2k off?!

#

that means its still like 1.5k...

mortal nacelle
#

its now the best deals are

red ingot
#

3k on sale for 1k

mortal nacelle
#

black friday have shit deals on hardware

#

the pump up the price a few before

#

and then drop it calling it black friday deal

red ingot
#

like that for instance

#

2.5k off

#

aka 50% off

steep gust
#

and also sell hardware that is cut down on black friday

storm osprey
#

america judge!

molten bramble
#

Lot of cases mentioned up above, some pretty cool ones.

#

I picked up this one myself and I am happy with it.

#

I'll be wall-mounting it soon once I get a new desk to take the place of those L-shaped frosted glass one.

steep gust
#

That only works if you don't have pets

latent light
#

black friday sales are usually not as good as people say they are

steep gust
#

I mean I got a good deal

#

but it was the week of black friday

storm osprey
#

some are actually good

#

but most arent that great

latent light
#

pc hardware usually goes on sale many days before black friday

steep gust
#

It was RAM so it cost like $80 more months ago LUL

#

Shame it was CJR and not B-Die

Screw whatever site I read that it was B-Die and that QVL I found that said it was

latent light
#

16gb ddr4 was like $200 back in march

#

now it's like $100

storm osprey
#

110 seems to be the lowest i would pay

#

the 100 and under ones that pop up are not brands i would trust

#

im glad prices are dropping though, especially since im gonna upgrade within this year

latent light
#

gonna upgrade next month

red ingot
#

nice

#

although the ram was probably the cheapest part of the ugprade for me... lol

#

cpu & motherboard both costed more

steep gust
#

DDR4 is DDR4

#

Brands 'you trust' are impossible when JEDEC forces the standards

#

You got SK Hynix, Samsung, and Micron making the actual RAM

prime jasper
#

also elpida and nanya

latent light
#

Micron makes Nvidia VRAM?

prime jasper
#

the most stability and endurance comes from micron, the second are hynix

#

yep

#

also elpida makes ram for nvidia too also for amd

latent light
#

does SK Hynix and Samsung make VRAM?

prime jasper
#

hynix with nanya too

#

yep

#

theyre all memory manufacturers

latent light
#

Intel started out as a memory manufacturer

prime jasper
#

you get the mem chips+ the pcb from them(but pcb is made with help of foxconn).

#

intel only makes optane technology supported memory via software

#

but they get ram from micron that's based on industrial/server hardware.

latent light
#

Intel was an early developer of SRAM and DRAM memory chips, which represented the majority of its business until 1981.

prime jasper
#

now intel is just subbrand for ram

#

their mobos like any other brand's are made by foxconn, only aesthetics and bios specifics varies so as cooling solutions.

#

corsair ram are made by hynix, nanya, samsung and micron. some may be from elpida, but most mid ranges and budget ones comes from sk hynix. corsair only makes heatsinks for the rams and labels but thats all.

latent light
#

does samsung manufacture the best memory chips?

prime jasper
#

the fastest consumer memory yep

latent light
prime jasper
#

but not the most durable one for consumers. samsung their cpu/memory production mostly dedicates to a professional use and military-pentagon.

latent light
#

4266 MHz at 19 latency

#

PC4 34100

storm osprey
#

@steep gust all i know is all the pny ram that ive seen used, has had problems

#

and i havent heard problems from corsair and gskill

#

so i buy those two

latent light
#

I got 16GB G.Skill RipJaws V 3000 MHz CL15

lime pollen
#

Quick question

#

would it be worth now to get a i7-8700

#

or just go with the i5-9600k

latent light
#

8700

lime pollen
#

That's what I was thinking

latent light
#

9600K does overclock but 8700 has hyperthreading

lime pollen
#

yeah

clear widget
#

id go with the ryzen 7 1700x or 2700x

lime pollen
#

Yeah

clear widget
#

more bang for buck

lime pollen
#

you're implying

#

im using a amd supported motherboard

latent light
#

or wait 2 weeks for CES 2019 to take place

lime pollen
#

eh

#

I'd rather take the chances now

storm osprey
#

#waitforces2019

#

looks like im saying wait forces 2019

latent light
#

when you're this close to something, it's better to wait tbh

storm osprey
#

some video games title

lime pollen
#

mm

#

then I'll wait

#

was planning on building a new comp

clear widget
#

im worried if i go from a 6700 to 8700 my 600w power supply might give

lime pollen
#

before my bday

latent light
#

it's only 2 weeks away lol

lime pollen
#

mm

#

then I'll wait

prime jasper
#

tridentZ's rgb are high end samsungs or hynix

lime pollen
#

I'm also looking at motherboards

prime jasper
#

some of them are samsung b-die

lime pollen
#

trying to find a good one for the lga 1151 sockets

prime jasper
#

p.s. gigabyte mid ranges mobos works better with hynix.

latent light
#

who manufactures this ram

prime jasper
#

mainly top of the line ones has potential out of samsung b-die

latent light
#

ah so I do have samsung memory

#

Samsung SSD, Samsung phone and now Samsung memory

prime jasper
#

samsung uses their own memory only in flagships

#

they usually put in nanya/hynix or elpida in mid ranges or budget ones

#

but i'd say they count on nanya and elpida to limit potential as much as possible

#

pretty much every iphone smartphone comes with samsung memory.

steep gust
#

@prime jasper Hynix what?

#

CJR?

#

MJR?

#

That is also super dated

#

3200mhz 14-14-14-34 will always be B-Die

prime jasper
#

Guys, after I installed a new cooler (Ryzen 2600X) I can only use 1 memory (Slot/Stick) on a MSI X370 Carbon Pro
(16GB is hardware reserved)
If I use both sticks it restarts like 3 times. POST also showed only 16gb ram,
so I took it out and am running Single channel RN :/ 1 of 4 slots used (boots without any red LED)

You think it's because the CPU isn't placed correctly or is it the motherboard?

#

Both memory sticks work btw, just can't run both

storm osprey
#

are you putting ram in right slots?

prime jasper
#

Yea

storm osprey
#

2 and 4?

prime jasper
#

I did yes

#

Before I had 32GB

#

It's 2x 16GB 3000Mhz

#

I think the CPU isn't installed correctly, bc after I took it out and installed the cooler it showed 16gb useable, before I had both running. I had both RAM sticks untouched

coarse nimbus
#

did you make sure the ram was seated correctly?

prime jasper
#

Yes

#

I didn't take them out

coarse nimbus
#

i made the mistake of not fully pushing in the bottom side, id not the one you clip in, and it was giving me bsod crashes when i would boot up

prime jasper
#

And reinstalled them, now I only use 1 stick

storm osprey
#

i just dont see how a cpu cooler does this

prime jasper
#

No

#

I took the 2600X out of the socket

storm osprey
#

why?

coarse nimbus
#

because it has no way of staying in there when you remove the cooler?

prime jasper
#

I replaced the stock cooler with a be quiet Dark Rock 4 (before I had 80ยฐC temps)

storm osprey
#

but why did you have to remove the cpu?

prime jasper
#

Tbh it was "glued" on the wraith Stealth cooler

#

I think the thermal compound was bad, am also using a Noctus RN and temps are good.

#

Noctua*

minor turret
#

AMDs mounting mechanism is shit and often the default paste will pull up cpu if force is used

coarse nimbus
#

amd cpu doesnt get held into the socket like an intel one

prime jasper
#

Yeah. I screwed it tight

coarse nimbus
#

so you need to remove the cooler and cpu then gently warm the paste up right? and like slide the cpu off

prime jasper
#

When I took the cooler off, the CPU came with it. Lol.

minor turret
#

And sometimes when CPU gets pulled up pins will be lost

coarse nimbus
#

that shit scares me honestly...the pins being on the cpu and not the pads

prime jasper
#

I will try put the CPU in the socket again and see.

#

If not I will try a new Mainboard

coarse nimbus
#

do a visual inspection of your pins

storm osprey
#

pulling up the cpu cooler pulled up the cpu with it WHILE it was supposed to be locked in?

#

yea that sounds like that would jack up the cpu pins

prime jasper
#

Yikes, that was a week ago, but I think I pulled the security lever before

#

To loose it .

coarse nimbus
#

it doesnt lock into the socket

storm osprey
#

what does the latch do?

coarse nimbus
#

thats literally how you have to remove the cooler by taking the cpu with it as far as i understand lol

prime jasper
#

Well, so far even BFV runs smooth as hell, even with single channel RAM so I could live with that if I don't get it fixed

storm osprey
#

...

#

but you paid for 32g

prime jasper
#

Yeah

#

I planned to upgrade anyways but not that soon! 7nm HYPE

storm osprey
#

man, you must have money

steep gust
#

@prime jasper update your bios and then clear it

#

and the pins being on the CPU is better

#

they are stronger

prime jasper
#

But it worked before? With the same bios

steep gust
#

Try it anyways

#

takes less than 5 minuts

prime jasper
#

Any clue how? The board doesn't have a physical button for that

steep gust
#

BIOS?

prime jasper
#

Ye

steep gust
#

Format a USB

#

download new bios

#

go through bios to update

prime jasper
#

Alright, ty will try soon

latent light
#

I've bent pins on an AMD CPU before, not hard to bend back

#

never seen them break off though

prime jasper
#

!!! Yeah mine are fine too

steep gust
#

I bent pins on an LGA1151 motherboard

#

broke one off and gave up

#

They are fucking brittle

coarse nimbus
#

because they arent pins thonk

steep gust
#

yes they are thinkalution

coarse nimbus
#

arent they angled flaps

#

that touch the pads and get slightly pushed down in the socket

steep gust
#

uh no

#

its pins

storm osprey
#

ive seen both

latent light
#

I would buy it but idk

#

Mini-ITX build lol

#

mini-ITX motherboards are usually $120+

coarse nimbus
#

not strictly straight up and down pins compared to an amd cpu

storm osprey
#

nothing loads with that link

#

well

#

not nothing, but i dont see an image

coarse nimbus
steep gust
#

those are pins

prime jasper
#

Try to turn off your dark mode add on if I use one

steep gust
#

I wouldn't call that very much an ITX case

prime jasper
#

^^

steep gust
#

You could easily fit an ATX motherboard in that size

prime jasper
#
  • reference design Rx 480, arrrrgh.
coarse nimbus
#

yes I understand they are pins...

#

I was saying they werent vertical, and slightly depress down when the socket + pad connects with them

#

This isnt the build a pc discord you dont have to be overly dense and smug its ok LUL

storm osprey
#

i would say leaflets are a more accurate word for them

latent light
#

reference 480 > reference 580

#

temps wise

#

this is like RX 480 performance for $120

#

not too bad, could find a used RX 480 for nearly the same price

storm osprey
#

is facebook marketplace popular?

latent light
#

yeah

#

in NA it is

storm osprey
#

i never thought it would take off

latent light
#

saw some dude sell a EVGA 1080 Ti for $400 a few months ago

#

it sold in like 20 minutes

storm osprey
#

idiot

latent light
#

this one is awful

coarse nimbus
#

I disabled my vdroop earlier, changed my multiplier from 42 (stock turbo setting) to 45, put the volts at 1.160 from 1.128 stock on my 8600k, seemed to be stable...just ran bf5 fine

#

max 57c

latent light
#

speak of the devil

#

$125 for triple fan 480 8GB

#

thick ass heatsink for a 150w card tbh

storm osprey
#

im gonna check my marketplace for idiots now

#

err

#

sellers

prime jasper
#

So.... no vibration on XB1 controllers? Grand Operations? Wtf

steep gust
#

@coarse nimbus Can't disable vdroop

coarse nimbus
#

thonk Now Im not even sure to believe you or not

tawny venture
#

Welp ive managed to try so much on my own that i now dont have the bf3 error msg anymore but now its stuck at initalizing or joining game TT

#

welp idk if its a step forward or backwards

#

nvmd its back

#

rip

steep gust
#

You can reduce vdroop

#

but you can't remove it

#

LLC can also overshoot and do too much voltage

#

So don't just max LLC

prime jasper
#

fps drops from 90 to 24

#

Can anyone help

storm osprey
#

git gud

prime jasper
#

@steep gust hynix has their b-die too, not just samsung. also micron has b-die

#

a-die m-die also exists, so it;'s really variable chip.

tawny venture
#

BF3 dosent get me the "directX" error when i try to run it on windowsxp mode

#

but its not even supported on win xp so

#

i guess its also the reason why its stuck on initalizing game

#

oof

coarse nimbus
steep gust
#

@prime jasper I meant samsung B-Die clearly

#

Its a stupid replacement to LLC that adds 80mv @coarse nimbus

#

not an actually vdroop remover

coarse nimbus
#

well i set it to 1.160 and it goes to 1.168, like the stock was 1.120 (was 1.128 max)

steep gust
#

I doubt your motherboard can only do 1.128v max for vcore thinkalution

#

Mine does 2.1v on a LN2 BIOS

coarse nimbus
#

No......Im saying what it actually goes up to is .008 higher than whats listed... like you were saying adding 80mv

#

im not saying the mobo only goes up to 1.128....and then saying right before that I have it at 1.160, do you even read?

steep gust
#

You have some terrible sentence struggle tbh

#

well i set it to 1.160 and it goes to 1.168, like the stock was 1.120 (was 1.128 max)

I set it to 1.160v, and it is given 1.168v. Like how it was at stock 1.120v (actually 1.128v)

Which one is easier shruganimated

coarse nimbus
#

Imagine being this obtuse But hey at least you got to use another one of your emotes

tawny venture
#

i cant fix it, ive tried bf4

#

and its the same issue there

steep gust
#

run that debugger

tawny venture
#

idk where i can find it rip neither do ik what it is TT

steep gust
#

I'm guessing there is a file in the dx folder called "DXGI.DLL" that will give you more information

#

maybe a better error code

tawny venture
#

ooh okay ill try to find it

steep gust
#

tbh idk I'm never had DX errors like that

steep gust
#

Rip memory overclocking

#

Wont even train

latent light
#

you were right about the memory VRMs being on the right side of the motherboard

steep gust
#

What board were you wanting to know about the VRM again?

latent light
#

what does SOC VRMs do

#

I always thought SOC had something to do with memory

steep gust
#

IMC and south bridge

latent light
#

my motherboard doesn't even have a stock heatsink for the SOC

steep gust
#

Give me a second having issues with booting

#

Also SOC doesn't draw much power

#

Fucking post already this was stable 5 minutes ago

latent light
#

all high end motherboards have heatsinks for SOC VRMs

steep gust
#

Yeah it looks better

latent light
#

lol

steep gust
#

The mosfet is gonna be rated to like 150C

latent light
#

is there any reasons to cool the MOSFETs on the right side of the memory slots

steep gust
#

No reason to

#

DRAM doesn't draw much

latent light
#

just looking for something to put these little mosfet heatsinks on lol

steep gust
#

Oh then have fun

latent light
#

already did the SOC VRMs

steep gust
#

Fuck it was the sub timings I changed

#

That XMP doesn't touch

latent light
steep gust
#

That was ruining posting

latent light
#

lol

#

tfw camera flash is too bright that it ruins photo

steep gust
#

You can stick them on chokes

#

It doesn't do anything

#

But hey shruganimated

latent light
#

i put them on mosfets

#

the tiny little 6.35mmx6.35mm squares

steep gust
#

There might be some by the chipset

#

Look at that

#

Reset the sub timings

#

Posted

latent light
#

lol

steep gust
#

I guess 3600mhz 15-18-19-26-30 1T was asking a ton for Hynix CJR on a non memory overclocking board

latent light
steep gust
#

That board is a 4+3 using a ISL95712 as the controller

4C10N for the high side mosfet

2x 4C06N for the low side mosfet

SOC uses the same controller and mosfets but only one low side

#

Man I love random German websites that have VRM lists

latent light
#

a lot to learn here

steep gust
#

Its efficiency looks fine

#

Also I'll pass on electrical engineering

#

But yeah Tjmax of 150C

latent light
#

that's not difficult to learn, just very time consuming

#

like everything engineering related

#

all learning takes is willingness and effort

latent light
#

wtf

winged tapir
#

why notlikecatgoogly

north crow
#

all the cameras

winged tapir
#

can make 9 pictures of you

north crow
#

or one 9-dimensional picture of you ๐Ÿค”

winged tapir
latent light
solar forum
#

I have a question

#

Are my specs good?>

#

Heres a list

#

Raijintek Paean

GIGABYTE X399 AORUS

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX

(8x16) G.Skill Trident Z

Nvidia Geforce 2080 TI SLI

(3x4 TB) Seagate BarraCuda 4TB

(3x960GB) CORSAIR Force Series LE200 960 GB

SilverStone ST1100-TI

CORSAIR Force Series - MP500 960 M.2

Cooling

EKWB EK-Supremacy sTR4 - nickel

EKWB EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB

EKWB EK-CoolStream SE 360 RGB

#

(with green coolant for XTRA NVIDIA FPS)

molten coral
#

No, my intel pentium and my onboard graphics are better than that.

#

I can play minecraft on fricking 17 FPS! Nobody can beat that experience.

limpid glade
#

No need to flex, @solar forum. Smh smh

mortal nacelle
#

๐Ÿคฃ

#

Why asking if Its good :/

short crypt
#

Just ordered the Samsung QE65Q9FN 65" can't wait ๐Ÿ˜„

red ingot
#

Fleeeeex

storm osprey
#

ill always assume "are my specs good" is a flex

red ingot
#

I saw 2080ti SLI and I stopped

#

Reading

storm osprey
#

dude, youre gonna be jealous of my next keyboard

red ingot
#

What is it

#

๐Ÿค”

storm osprey
#

custom made yo

#

gonna be that case, with led psb, aliaz switches, aanndd

#

idk what keycaps

#

shit

red ingot
#

Lol

#

Fleeeeex

storm osprey
#

dude, i completely forgot about keycaps

red ingot
#

You're welcome

storm osprey
#

hmm

red ingot
storm osprey
#

i want these

#

but they are expensive as fuck

red ingot
#

do it

#

How much anyways

#

I cant see the price

storm osprey
#

yea drop ended

#

it was like 120 minimum

#

but thats almost exactly the keycap set up i want

red ingot
#

Shit

storm osprey
#

yeeaaa

red ingot
#

$120 for keycap?

#

Wtf

storm osprey
#

ad 50 bucks and thats a 2600....

red ingot
#

Phew

#

I mean

storm osprey
#

i wont do it

#

it just doesnt make sense

red ingot
#

I spent that much on rgb fans...

storm osprey
#

the rest of my keyboard probably wont equal 120

red ingot
#

But it gave me +50fps

storm osprey
#

LOL

#

right?

#

set to red

red ingot
#

Set my whole build to red

#

Everything in my case is rgb now

#

Well, except psu and drives but those are hidden

storm osprey
#

and case

red ingot
#

Shh

#

I looked at rgb cases mind u

#

And they all looked shitty

#

I actually really like the meshify

storm osprey
#

meshify c is god tier

red ingot
#

No regrets

#

Yeah

#

Especially with the fans in there

#

It looks beautiful

#

Entire case is lit up

storm osprey
red ingot
#

Haha yeah

#

I dont think an rgb case wouldve made a dif

#

All my other rgb is so bright lul