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narrow fable
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You did multiplier overclocks?

latent light
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i only do multiplier

narrow fable
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That's all you can do

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I think

buoyant rover
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@narrow fable no overclocking for whomst?

narrow fable
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Mister Grim Ace over here

buoyant rover
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why is that?

steep gust
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its probably 4+2

narrow fable
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^

steep gust
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4 for vcore, one for iGPU, two for SOC

buoyant rover
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4+3 is good enough for Ryzen5

narrow fable
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I was aboot to say that

latent light
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yeah that's what I'm thinking

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one reserved for the iGPU

buoyant rover
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Ryzen5 doesn't take much

steep gust
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Rzyen as a whole doesn't take much

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nor does Intel

narrow fable
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It's not an X chip

buoyant rover
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wouldn't matter if it was an X chip

narrow fable
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So there's no base clock overclocking

steep gust
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strong VRMs > amount of phases

buoyant rover
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X chips just have XFR

steep gust
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You can change BLCK on non X CPUs woahthink

latent light
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8+ phases are for enthusiast level overclocking

buoyant rover
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BLCK?

steep gust
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base clock

buoyant rover
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well ye

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XFR is neat tho

steep gust
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and even a 9900k doesn't need more than strong 8 phase even for XOC

narrow fable
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You know what's real neat?

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11+4

steep gust
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You know what isn't neat

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The Z390 Godlike LUL

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14 phases for vcore is worthless

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and your $600 motherboard doesn't even have a PLX chip or any XOC features anyways

buoyant rover
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When only 2 dice employees are playing BFV

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boom, roasted

narrow fable
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This years gpus and cpus are all just disappointments

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RTX

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Fail

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9th gen intel

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Fail

steep gust
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but Zen+ wasn't a fail

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and the 9900 is great for performance just not price to performance

buoyant rover
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@narrow fable RTX isn't a fail

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It's just not did anythin gyet

narrow fable
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RTX is a flop

buoyant rover
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you can't say something failed if it's still in the process of doing what it was supposed to

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wait until next gen and make a conclusion

narrow fable
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It pulled a fallout 76 on us

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Before fallout 76

steep gust
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RTX is a flop

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the ray tracing in BFV isn't even ray tracing

buoyant rover
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Not possible to call it a flop

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It's still the current gen

steep gust
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yes it is

buoyant rover
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Nah

steep gust
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RTX features were a flop

crisp shoal
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they were

narrow fable
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It's not real ray tracing

steep gust
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the performance for the price is lackluster

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its not

buoyant rover
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I mean

crisp shoal
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ray tracing is unuseable

steep gust
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Its not even close

buoyant rover
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RTX cards are the same price or very similar to 10 series cards before their price hikes

steep gust
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uh no

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1080ti

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$700

buoyant rover
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2080 is similar to a 1080ti in price

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about $50 more

steep gust
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1080 was $535

buoyant rover
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before the 1080ti went OOS

narrow fable
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2080ti 1400 dolla

crisp shoal
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and 1080ti is just a bit better than the 2070

steep gust
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1070 was like $350

crisp shoal
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and 2070 is 500

buoyant rover
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There is no 1070 equivalent

steep gust
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2060

buoyant rover
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you're comparing 1070 to 2070

narrow fable
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The 1080ti outperforms the 2080

buoyant rover
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I'm comparing them based on performance

steep gust
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and you can compare the generational

buoyant rover
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So 2070 to 1080

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2080 to 1080ti

steep gust
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Maxwell -> Pascal kept the same prices

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and had massive performance gains

buoyant rover
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@narrow fable not true

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2080 is slightly stronger

narrow fable
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There's no excuse for the 500 dolla increase in price between the 1080ti and 2080ti

buoyant rover
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there are a few examples where the 1080ti is slightly stronger but overall on average the 2080 is better

narrow fable
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I've only found one game where the 2080 performs better

steep gust
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The 2080ti should be $800-900 tops

narrow fable
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And thats battlefield

red ingot
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Afaik 2xxx series performs better at higher res

narrow fable
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Literally every other game I've played i use my 1080ti

red ingot
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Like 1440p and 4k

buoyant rover
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you have a 1080ti and a 2080?

narrow fable
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Yeeeeeeees

steep gust
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Turing overclocks farther than Pascal

narrow fable
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Best investment ever

steep gust
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and GDDR6 goes a lot farther than GDDR5X

red ingot
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Wtf

buoyant rover
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why?

red ingot
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Wh6

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Why ***

narrow fable
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Rendering

red ingot
buoyant rover
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??

narrow fable
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

red ingot
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I'm so confused

steep gust
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Workstations don't need identical GPUs

narrow fable
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2080 murders a 1080ti in blender

red ingot
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Oh

buoyant rover
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I know 4k isn't normal usage but

red ingot
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So u have both for workstation use

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Okay

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And yeah that's what I mean the 2xxx cards scale better at higher res

narrow fable
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Really i bought it over a second 1080 ti to try out ray tracing

red ingot
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Fair

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No I didnt know that u could use both effectively in workstation use

narrow fable
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Yep

red ingot
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I dont do any rendering and stuff so idk

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Just gaming HaHAA

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Other than that a massively overpowered shitposter

steep gust
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yeah well a single 2080ti struggles with 'ray tracing'

buoyant rover
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I mean

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depends what you mean by struggle

red ingot
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Spend the other 80% of my time not gaming on discord or reddit

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And other 20% for office use

steep gust
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as in it fucks your FPS over for no real gains

buoyant rover
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the gain is raytracing

red ingot
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Yeah

steep gust
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wow fancy reflections I won't notice

red ingot
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Rtx is a meme

steep gust
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for 60fps instead of 120fps

buoyant rover
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don't buy RTX cards if you don't want raytracing

red ingot
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Well

buoyant rover
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raytracing will 100% be the future of graphics though

red ingot
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If u have $$$$

steep gust
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well no

buoyant rover
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just might not be ready now

red ingot
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Why not

steep gust
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RTX is NOT ray tracing

red ingot
narrow fable
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There's no point buying a ray tracing card to use ray tracing in rendering shet either

red ingot
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Yeah apparently they have rtx workstation cards

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For like 10k

narrow fable
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Now those

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I'd want for chrimmas

red ingot
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Wow

buoyant rover
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besides RTing

red ingot
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U must do some hardcore rendering

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Lol

buoyant rover
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people overlook DLSS

red ingot
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Eh

steep gust
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DLSS is AA

red ingot
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I saw a video of the comparison

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Dlss was pretty shit

narrow fable
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One of my scenes took 79 hours

steep gust
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yeah its not worth

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$500 more

red ingot
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Holy fuck

narrow fable
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Would have taken*

red ingot
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What do u render

buoyant rover
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You keep referencing the 2080ti's price

red ingot
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I'm curious

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Like what do u do

buoyant rover
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i wouldn't.

red ingot
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Just hobby?

narrow fable
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Had i not realised i was rendering it on the cpu

red ingot
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Or work?

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Lool

buoyant rover
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2070 and 2080 are much more reasonable comparisons

narrow fable
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All hobby xd

steep gust
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RTX features like 'ray tracing' only count on the 2080ti

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2070 shouldn't even have access to them

red ingot
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How much time on the gpu?

steep gust
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2080 is going to die

red ingot
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Curious what the dif was

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79h vs

narrow fable
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5

red ingot
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Wow

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Damn

steep gust
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and actual ray tracing takes server racks ages to render scenes

red ingot
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What are u rendering tho

narrow fable
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CUDA is insanely good at rendering

red ingot
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Like what stuff

buoyant rover
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2070 does RT fine

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you just don't run RT high on BFV

steep gust
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so they why bother

buoyant rover
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because it's still a big improvement

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don't insert personal preferences into objective talk

red ingot
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Um

narrow fable
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Ever seen what happens when you take a realistic looking 3D person and add 6000 hairs to every single face?

red ingot
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Your fps went from 140 to 70

steep gust
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and wait for it

buoyant rover
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yes

red ingot
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From off to low

buoyant rover
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yes

steep gust
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1080p 60hz on a fucking $500 GPU is not acceptable

red ingot
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That's massive

buoyant rover
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not acceptable, to you

steep gust
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to anyone

red ingot
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Fair

steep gust
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1080p on top of the line hardware is bullshit

buoyant rover
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again, that personal bias is going to make you unreasonable

narrow fable
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It honestly isnt acceptable

red ingot
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Someone on 60hz monitor might not care

buoyant rover
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learn to remove it

red ingot
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Fair enough

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No I agree with u

steep gust
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Sorry the 2080ti is built for 4k

narrow fable
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^

red ingot
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For me personally its not worth it

steep gust
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The 2080 is a good card for 1440p

red ingot
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Cause I want fps

steep gust
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not fucking 1080p

buoyant rover
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It's also built for RT high no lower resolutions

red ingot
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Still think the performance hit is too high tho

steep gust
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The next step in graphics is 4k

narrow fable
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Literally the only reason people buy the xx80 ti cards

red ingot
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๐Ÿคท

steep gust
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not ray tracing

buoyant rover
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just like how a 1070ti can do 1440p 75-100hz but also smooth 1080p 144hz-165hz

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cards can do multiple things

red ingot
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And so wait @narrow fable

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U just like

steep gust
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uh yeah a 2080ti is overkill for 1080p

red ingot
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Fuck around

steep gust
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just a little

buoyant rover
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๐Ÿคท this discussion is going nowhere though

red ingot
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And add hair to shit

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For your rendering

steep gust
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you are defending nvidia

buoyant rover
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My advice is to speak objectively and not in personal preferences

steep gust
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for being shitty

red ingot
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I'm curious

steep gust
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with

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"Well for some people"

narrow fable
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I've added more stuff than hair

red ingot
steep gust
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How many people buy a $500-1300 GPU for 1080p 60hz monitors?

red ingot
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Idk I'm just curious man Haha

buoyant rover
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Save your fingers

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I'm not going on about this anymore lol

narrow fable
steep gust
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I want to know who

red ingot
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I'm giving u permission to self promote

narrow fable
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You know what they say

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Curiosity killed the cat

red ingot
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Oof

steep gust
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Because I personally did buy a 1080 with a 1080p monitor, but I fully intend to upgrade to a 1440p monitor

I would not have bought it nor recommend doing so if you are going to play at 1080p

buoyant rover
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1080 is great for 1080p 144hz in AAA titles

steep gust
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Those reflections add way less to the game then playing at 4k

buoyant rover
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thats part of its use

steep gust
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You know what else is great?

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1440p 144hz

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Which is fully possible on a 2080 / 2080ti

buoyant rover
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personal preference ๐Ÿคท

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drop it please

steep gust
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1080p ultra < 1440p low

narrow fable
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@red ingot

red ingot
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Hi

narrow fable
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Do you know

steep gust
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I have a feeling you only own a 1080p 144hz monitor

red ingot
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No

narrow fable
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What a furry is?

red ingot
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Yeah

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Why

narrow fable
steep gust
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nah the other dude

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Who is saying 1080p 60hz is okay because hey you got reflections

narrow fable
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I wonder why I'd be creating 3D models

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Covered in hair

red ingot
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Ah

narrow fable
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Thicc hair

red ingot
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Hm

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I wonder why

buoyant rover
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I'm saying it's preference

red ingot
buoyant rover
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Which it is

narrow fable
buoyant rover
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That's a cold hard fact

red ingot
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Oof

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Is it um

narrow fable
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I'm also wondering why

red ingot
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Videos

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That u make

steep gust
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and its a cold hard fact that you don't need more than an RX580 for 1080p 60hz

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So $200

red ingot
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Or pics

steep gust
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instead of

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wait for it

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$500

narrow fable
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You think I can render videos?

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On two gpus?

buoyant rover
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RX580 can't RT

red ingot
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Idk

narrow fable
buoyant rover
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so not comparable ๐Ÿ™ƒ

red ingot
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Idk how much it takes

narrow fable
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4 hours a frame

red ingot
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๐Ÿคท

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Fuck

narrow fable
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If i tried to animate these

steep gust
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its not ray tracing

red ingot
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That's some high definition shit

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Send pics

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Well not here

narrow fable
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Sending here

steep gust
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ray tracing would run at less than 1fps if actually sent into BFV LUL

red ingot
narrow fable
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@steep gust

red ingot
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Inb4 ban

narrow fable
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Ever wonder why animation studios have massive supercomputers?

red ingot
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True

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But I thought that's cause it's super high def

narrow fable
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That's real ray tracing

red ingot
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I guess u also do super high def

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Yeah no ik that

narrow fable
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Naaaa

steep gust
red ingot
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Idk how quality your stuff is

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Now that your telling me 4h/frame

narrow fable
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If you head to my twitter

red ingot
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I'm curious

narrow fable
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You might see

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Something

red ingot
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Which would be..

narrow fable
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Nsfw

red ingot
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Link

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I mean

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Or name

narrow fable
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It's linked

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To my discord

red ingot
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I can't see it

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Wtf

narrow fable
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Lazy

mental hatch
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yea its not there

red ingot
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u liar

narrow fable
red ingot
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bait

narrow fable
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Tis

steep gust
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While that video is brute forcing path tracing instead of using the cores for it, it still shows how far out the tech actually is for consumers

red ingot
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just link

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in dms

narrow fable
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Here

red ingot
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or here if u want

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๐Ÿคท

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idc

steep gust
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Also developers have to support and add ray tracing, while resolution increases are leagues easier

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and don't involve dividing your playerbase

red ingot
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alphaPRS has left the server

steep gust
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You could do 4k on an AMD GPU

red ingot
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@narrow fable

narrow fable
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Let me

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Get to

buoyant rover
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I mean

narrow fable
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My computer

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PLEEEASE

red ingot
buoyant rover
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if you consider GPU features to be dividng the playerbase

red ingot
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no u

narrow fable
buoyant rover
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I don't think there's a game that doesn't do that

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Can't use shadowplay with an AMD card

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can't use freesync with Nvidia

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etc

narrow fable
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You can run Nvidia's ray tracing without an RTX card btw

buoyant rover
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AMD GPUs users aren't going to get mad because they can't RT

steep gust
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you can use freesync with nivida

buoyant rover
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you can hack it yes

steep gust
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no

buoyant rover
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it's not 100% use

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prove it

steep gust
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you literally just need a 2400g

narrow fable
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But prepare for .6 fps

buoyant rover
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yes, hacking it

buoyant rover
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not official use

steep gust
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Its literally changing a few settings

buoyant rover
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un-intentional usage

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also doesn't work 100% last I remember

narrow fable
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Voids your warranty

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@red ingot

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Would you like to see the 50GB gif instead?

red ingot
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wat

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sure

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twitter pls

latent light
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@steep gust Ryzen 5 3600G + Nvidia GPU + FreeSync monitor

red ingot
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i can only wait so long

latent light
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epic combo

red ingot
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i wanted to go shower

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but instead im sitting here

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waiting

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waiting

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waiting...

narrow fable
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Wel then go shower u musky husky

red ingot
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god dammit

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how long u gonna be

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either that or dm me

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cause imma miss it

narrow fable
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Go shower

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Right

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God damn now

sonic osprey
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Dang I missed some juicy debate... But its ok I did not have any popcorn either

red ingot
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here

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๐Ÿฟ

sonic osprey
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Just to clarify DLSS is not anti-aliasing per se, it is a technic used to gain larger resolution by rendering smaller source and upscaling

narrow fable
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Technic

red ingot
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thicc

sonic osprey
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Im on phone, dont want to write out everything properly

red ingot
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technicc

narrow fable
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Autocorrect ples?

red ingot
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autocorrect

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although

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autocorrect would probably make it something completely different

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at least for me, cause autocorrect hates me

sonic osprey
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2018, and use autocorrect, what are you? Americans?

red ingot
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and puts in the worst words at the worst times

narrow fable
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I'm irish

red ingot
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says the one with the trump picture

sonic osprey
red ingot
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ive assumed you're american

narrow fable
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Americans are actually scuffed irish people

red ingot
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and are shit talking yourself

sonic osprey
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Im finnish

red ingot
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ah

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so trump for the memes

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๐Ÿ˜„

narrow fable
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Much meme

sonic osprey
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Nokia, torille!

red ingot
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I'm Canadian

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so ๐Ÿคท

narrow fable
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Ur actually a scuffed Frenchie

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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

sonic osprey
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I assumed you are dr phil

narrow fable
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Wait

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By this logic

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What am I assumed to be?

sonic osprey
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Not alpha HaHAA

narrow fable
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๐Ÿ’”

latent light
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DLSS can make 1440p look like 4K

sonic osprey
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But ye, dlss would make it possible for game engines to render at some specific optimized size like 1080p, use smaller textures etc for even faster rendering. And eventually upscale to 4k

latent light
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while being less demanding than 4K

sonic osprey
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That is the main point of it, not anti-aliasing

red ingot
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I am dr phil tho

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so you assumed correct

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dr phil theme music plays

sonic osprey
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They train the system running 1080p and 4k resolutions and then patch the training data, so the game can be run with dlss

red ingot
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isn't dlss bad tho

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i saw a vid by gamersnexus

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where he compared dlss

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and it was flickering for some parts

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and he said it still needs some work

sonic osprey
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Its not same as native render+aa

red ingot
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and the perf savings wasn't that big

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plus aa at >1080p isn't really needed

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imo

sonic osprey
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Point is you could disable lot of stuff that needs to be done when dlss is enabled

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But most likely the source is rendered with max settings which get negated by the dlss

red ingot
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so

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what are u trying to say

sonic osprey
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Not entirely sure though, dont have supported title

red ingot
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sorry im not following lol

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like

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are u saying that dlss is not really doing anything?

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cause i mean watching dlss on/off i can't really see any big dif tbh

sonic osprey
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For 4k you need larger texture etc, for dlss 4k you can use lesser texture to gain "similar" effect at 4k

buoyant rover
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@red ingot well.. you'd need a display that is actually at 4k to see the difference

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or whatever res DLSS is upscaling to

steep gust
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DLSS is worthless

buoyant rover
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just like how you aren't going to see a difference between 60hz and 240hz if you have a 60hz monitor

steep gust
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DLSS is literally only AA right now, and its not even good AA

red ingot
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i see

steep gust
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It really struggles with power lines, etc

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causes them to flicker

sonic osprey
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It is not AA

red ingot
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yes

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thats what i saw on gamersnexus

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the fence was flickering

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huge turn off

latent light
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I wouldn't use AA at 4K

red ingot
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yeah

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it doesnt make sense to me

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๐Ÿคท

latent light
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Unless I'm on a big screen

steep gust
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Its AA

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quit reading the marketing material and look at the games that have it

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Oh and anyways super sampling is AA

latent light
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1080p on a 20" screen looks as good as 4K on a 32" screen

red ingot
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huh

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really?

latent light
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Smaller the screen, smaller the pixels will be

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Which is why it's hard to tell the difference between 1080p and 1440 on a smartphone with a 5" screen

red ingot
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hm

buoyant rover
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and is also why 1080p 27" monitors suck

latent light
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Yep

red ingot
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4k still has a higher PPI on 32"

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than 1080p on 20"

latent light
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1080p 24" > 1080p 27"

red ingot
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yeah no

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i know that

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but in terms of PPI 4k still has higher on 32" than 1080p on 20"

latent light
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1080 24" = 1440p 27"

red ingot
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hm

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i disagree

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i just came from a 1080p 24"

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upgraded to a 1440p 27"

latent light
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1080p 24" = 1440p 27" = 4K 32"

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Pixel density is very similar

red ingot
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PPI gets higher

sonic osprey
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Super sampling is not AA, it might be "similar" results but AA by definition is about to reduce the pixelation of sharp lines, super sampling is about increasing resolution of smaller image source

buoyant rover
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@sonic osprey Do you know about Ambient occlusion?

latent light
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4K on 27" looks really sharp and wont need AA

buoyant rover
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specifically the differences between SBAO and HBAO?

sonic osprey
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@buoyant rover nope

latent light
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4K on 32" may need AA if you are a huge image quality enthusiast

mortal nacelle
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My 27 4k monitor looks bad ass

latent light
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4K 27" is the sweet spot for pixel density

red ingot
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my 27" 1440p looks badass

steep gust
#

@latent light not really

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also 1080p 27" has some issues

red ingot
#

and fuck anything bigger than 27" for monitors anyways imo

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bigger than that is impractial

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cause u sit so close

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(or at least i do...)

mortal nacelle
#

27 4k 144hz โค๏ธ

red ingot
#

for a tv bigger makes sense

mortal nacelle
#

Pure love

latent light
#

Yeah 24" to 27" is the good size range

red ingot
#

but heck im still using a 32" tv

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i can't imagine putting something equivalent size on my desk

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1 foot infront of me

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not even

sonic osprey
#

49" samsung ftw

steep gust
#

@sonic osprey to quote you

definition is about to reduce the pixelation of sharp lines

super sampling is about increasing resolution of smaller image source

Super sampling renders at a higher resolution then reduces it to get a cleaner, sharper, and better image quality

It does the same as AA, and was the first form of AA

red ingot
#

im thinking of getting a 55" 4k next year

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good pixel density

steep gust
#

Supersampling is a spatial anti-aliasing method, i.e. a method used to remove aliasing (jagged and pixelated edges, colloquially known as "jaggies") from images rendered in computer games or other computer programs that generate imagery

latent light
#

For a TV?

red ingot
#

i mean a massive 75" would be cool

steep gust
red ingot
#

but i feel like smaller would be better

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and yes for a tv

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not a monitor lool

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55" monitor OMEGALUL

flint locust
#

2 27 inch 1440p monitors here

red ingot
#

nice

flint locust
#

have a 50inch 4k tv but don't use it for games

latent light
#

You ever used a 60" 1080p TV as a monitor? Looks gross

red ingot
#

i have a couple (2) extra 24" 1080p monitors that i don't have room for on this desk FeelsBadMan

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oh god i bet

latent light
#

It's like taking a typical monitor and cutting the resolution in half

red ingot
#

nice

#

no room for my pc on this desk rn either

buoyant rover
#

@latent light I am right now

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Looks fine

red ingot
#

its so pretty but sitting on the floor

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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all my rgb is installed now tho

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+50fps

flint locust
#

Main reason why i bought a bigger desk

red ingot
#

yeah

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i have a bigger desk upstairs but the router is downstairs...

#

rip

sonic osprey
#

@steep gust dlss is about rendering smaller source and upscaling with deep learning, not to render larger images to be downscaled

red ingot
#

but im moving outta here soon anyways ๐Ÿคท

mortal nacelle
#

@red ingot Do the 75 oled

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Its Awesome

red ingot
#

75 oled?

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oh 75"

#

link

#

more for curiousity, i aint buying for another year

#

who knows what they'll have out in 1 year

latent light
#

OLED has short life expectancy right?

steep gust
#

@sonic osprey DLSS is still AA

#

OLED nowadays is fine

buoyant rover
#

Organic LED

#

Confusing name NGL

red ingot
#

does it?

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well shit i don't want short life expectancy

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i aint spending a buttload on a nice tv just for it to die

sonic osprey
#

No, it is SS only done when training the material when they teach the system how to upscale

red ingot
#

i aint upgrading that tv until 8k is the norm

sonic osprey
#

There is no AA happening with running game with dlss

steep gust
#

uh yeah

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super sampling is AA

#

Using a machine to do it before hand is still AA

latent light
#

8K is barely noticeable compared to 4K

red ingot
#

really?

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huh

#

i was so psyched

sonic osprey
#

Just to teach the system yeah, when running the game there is only upscaling, so no "AA"

red ingot
#

oh well

mortal nacelle
#

@red ingot Its all good now the old died fast

red ingot
#

4k does look super good

latent light
#

Unless you have a 100"

red ingot
#

huh

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i guess maybe cause the eye can't detect it?

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like see the dif

mortal nacelle
#

8k vs 4k is not even worth if only if you get like Cinema size

red ingot
#

cause the pixels are so small

steep gust
#

4k is good

#

and I can't wait for 4k gaming to be norm

red ingot
#

like past a certain PPI the eye can't see?

narrow fable
#

omegalul Wana hear the greatest joke i ever heard?

steep gust
#

gonna be leagues better than "ray tracing"

mortal nacelle
#

4k gamning is the norm

latent light
#

4K 240hz monitor by 2020 maybe

steep gust
#

4k gaming is not the norm

narrow fable
#

Someone said we'd be getting 8k VR headsets

mortal nacelle
#

Just Gotta drop Them v buks

steep gust
#

a $1300 GPU is not normally affordable

narrow fable
steep gust
#

nor is a $2000 monitor LUL

latent light
#

Csgo wont be hard to run at 4K 240hz

mortal nacelle
#

Its worh it for me

narrow fable
#

Yes it would

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@rough gulch

#

Easily

latent light
red ingot
#

4K 240hz monitor by 2020 maybe

narrow fable
#

I guess

red ingot
#

what

narrow fable
#

This Grim

red ingot
#

u sir are optimistic

narrow fable
#

Is getting some pings

mortal nacelle
#

If Only

red ingot
#

4k 240hz

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rip

latent light
#

4K 144hz already exists

red ingot
#

need like

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true

#

@mortal nacelle can confirm

mortal nacelle
#

4k 240hz with 300 fps

narrow fable
#

Gimme 1440p 240hz tho

latent light
#

Tbh, where is 1440p 240hz

red ingot
#

4k 240hz

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is gonna need like 2x 2080ti

#

and will only do like 200fps

steep gust
#

4 144hz doesn't exist without down sampling

narrow fable
#

@red ingot

red ingot
#

hi

steep gust
#

and you will need whatever is after the 2080ti

red ingot
narrow fable
#

1 2080ti= 60-70fps

red ingot
#

yeah

#

need 2 whatever after 2080ti

steep gust
#

Probably a 3080ti since Nvidia is Nvidia

red ingot
#

in sli

narrow fable
#

2 2080ti= 100fps

steep gust
#

eh no

latent light
#

2180 Ti

steep gust
#

a single 2080ti can do 4k 100fps

mortal nacelle
#

@narrow fable i sit around 85 to 130 in 4k 144hz

steep gust
#

Depending on the game and setting

prime jasper
#

2200Ti

narrow fable
#

Not at ultra detail

mortal nacelle
#

Full settings

#

Yes

narrow fable
#

In wot

steep gust
#

you don't need AA for 4k

narrow fable
#

CS?

steep gust
#

so that is ez fps

narrow fable
mortal nacelle
#

Bfv

red ingot
#

u fucking wot m8

narrow fable
#

Proof

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Rn

red ingot
#

he plays all low tho

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4k res

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all low textures

steep gust
#

have any of you looked at performance benchmarks for a 2080ti?

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Cus its fine at 4k

mortal nacelle
#

Only when Pro

red ingot
#

so its plausible

steep gust
#

SLI can do 100fps+

mortal nacelle
#

Yeah

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@narrow fable just google it

#

There is reviews of it

#

Its jumps alot trough

#

But you get from 85fps to 130

#

All settings max

#

No Ray

#

I Got the Asus strix card 2080ti

narrow fable
#

there's a strix 2080ti?

mortal nacelle
#

Ofc

#

You Living under a rock ?

narrow fable
#

Makes my gpus sad

latent light
#

Where is the Galax Hall of Fame 2080 Ti?

mortal nacelle
#

Here you go

narrow fable
#

Such a beeyutiful card

latent light
#

Hall of Fame is the best cards

narrow fable
#

I dunno

mortal nacelle
#

That my card โค๏ธ

narrow fable
#

That Geforce 256 seems hella lit rn

mortal nacelle
#

Titan rtx sli

#

Give me

red ingot
#

beautiful

latent light
#

nvm

#

there is a 2080 Ti Hall of Fame edition

steep gust
#

@latent light sold out

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It was a limited run

#

for an XOC event

latent light
#

it has a waterblock on it

steep gust
#

and you had to pay for the memory separately

#

so it was like $1800

latent light
#

I think the 1080 Ti HOF looks better

steep gust
#

but hey

mortal nacelle
#

That one is bad ass

latent light
#

HOF have the best PCB and VRMs

steep gust
#

if you could afford to fly to like Taiwan

#

You got free LN2

#

to benchmark

#

thing is

#

VRM means jackshit with power limits

mortal nacelle
#

@latent light come with me to Taiwan

latent light
#

lol

#

has an LCD screen on the card itself

steep gust
#

event is over

mortal nacelle
#

Omg

steep gust
#

and ln2 is cheap

mortal nacelle
#

@steep gust i Got contact

#

S

latent light
#

you can only find HOF in used condition

steep gust
#

yeah cus they only made like 100

latent light
#

even then, people aren't selling them prob

steep gust
#

for some reason

#

why even have a heatsink

#

it was removed to stick a LN2 pot on

mortal nacelle
#

We fly to Taiwan and tell to give us 2 Or we burn the building Down @latent light

#

You with me

latent light
#

1080 Ti HOF with the triple fan cooler stays under 50C under OC load lmfao

latent light
#

I don't think HOF were intended for consumers like us

#

probably testers

steep gust
#

Its for XOC

#

and yet still looks like shit

latent light
#

the 2080 Ti looks pretty shit

#

1080 Ti HOF looks amazing

steep gust
#

Also the FTW3 has the highest power limit out of all consumer 2080ti

#

So just buy one

#

slap a waterblock on

#

and ez 2100mhz

latent light
#

1080 Ti HOF ran cool with the FTW3

#

lmao

steep gust
#

the 2080ti ftw3 looks like shit

latent light
#

you know there is going to be more than 2 different RTX 2060s

red ingot
#

my 1080ti sc2 doesnt get above 70c

steep gust
#

most run cool

#

if you max the fans

red ingot
#

yeah

#

i just have auto fan on

#

i think it goes up to 70%?

#

idk

mortal nacelle
#

Same

red ingot
#

but its not that loud

#

and never goes past ~70c which is nice

#

my 780ti used to get up to about 85

mortal nacelle
#

When i play bfv it runs at 50% and at 60

red ingot
#

although that was also after like 4-5 years

latent light
#

buildzoid is right

#

it's overkill

red ingot
#

why?

#

tldr

#

i dont wanna watch 45m

latent light
mortal nacelle
buoyant rover
#

@latent light RTX ends with the 2070

latent light
#

2060 will have RTX too

buoyant rover
#

Very much doubt that

steep gust
#

buildzoid rambles a lot

buoyant rover
#

No source has alluded to that

#

that I know of

steep gust
#

and the 2070 can't really do 'ray-tracing' so if the 2060 has RTX it will only be DLSS

latent light
#

yeah pretty sure DLSS will only be useful on it

mortal nacelle
#

Tbh There is No games out There with Ray tracing engine

latent light
#

real-time ray tracing isn't an engine

narrow fable
#

Blender has a great ray tracing engine

#

๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

steep gust
#

blender isn't an game

narrow fable
#

Tis in my mind

latent light
#

the third 8-pin connector on the HOF edition is absolutely useless

narrow fable
#

Unless you're doing dry ice OC

latent light
#

two 8-pins can handle 300W and that's without adding in the PCI-E slot

steep gust
#

uh yeah even with DICE

#

two 8 pin is enough

#

A single 8 pin can do like 150-200w

#

then add 75w from the PCIe slot

latent light
#

can't PCI-E handle over 75W for a short period

steep gust
#

yeah but not recommend

#

cus that isn't good on the motherboard

latent light
#

LN2 may need the third 8-pin connector, 1080 Ti HOF can peak around 700 watts if doing LN2 overclocking lol

narrow fable
#

Someone send me a pentium 2 pls

red ingot
#

ok

#

jesus

#

700w for a gpu

latent light
#

heavy overclocking though

red ingot
#

yeah true

#

but still

steep gust
#

that will also quickly kill the gpu

#

1.2v is bad on a gpu and will kill it

#

that is like

#

1.4v+

latent light
#

my RX 580 peaks at 1150 mV

#

my old GTX 770 peaked at 1212 mV

steep gust
#

yeah stuff has gotten more efficient

narrow fable
#

I've put 1.6v into my cpu

red ingot
#

u wot

narrow fable
#

1.617 to be precise

red ingot
#

wtf

#

why

buoyant rover
#

I mean

red ingot
#

y u do dis

buoyant rover
#

I've booted at 1.5v

#

just to see what I could do

narrow fable
#

BECAUSE

red ingot
#

am i the only normal person

buoyant rover
#

but it doesn't do shit short term

red ingot
#

that doesn't want to go out and buy a new cpu

narrow fable
#

I managed to get a 5.4 OC at 1.49

red ingot
#

that and i want my parts to have some resale vaue

latent light
#

I thought my motherboard was broken when I got it, it would use 1.42v to auto boost my 1600 to 3.9 GHz

narrow fable
#

Got me a 5.9

red ingot
#

cause i dont wanna sell a cpu that's almost dead

#

hot damn grim

buoyant rover
#

@latent light auto boost?

#

1600x

#

?

latent light
#

yeah it self overclocks

narrow fable
#

Just take off the heat spreader

buoyant rover
#

I thought you said you had a regular 1600

latent light
#

but I have a manual overclock on it now

narrow fable
#

And push a block of dry ice onto it

#

ez pz cooling

buoyant rover
#

what cooler did you buy

#

if you say hyper212 you are banned

latent light
#

stock cooler

buoyant rover
#

fair warning

#

1600x didnt come with a stock cooler

red ingot
#

why

#

hyper212

#

was the bomb

latent light
#

I'm talking about my 1600

red ingot
#

rite of fucking passage

buoyant rover
#

it was the bomb in 2012

latent light
#

did I ever say 1600X?

buoyant rover
#

we've been over this

red ingot
#

everyone had to install one at some point

#

no

#

i'd still use it

buoyant rover
#

well the 1600x is the one with XFR @latent light

red ingot
#

if it didn't look ugly

buoyant rover
#

1600 shouldn't have any auto-oc features

red ingot
#

but i got an AIO instead cause it looks nicer

latent light
#

then why the hell did my motherboard self overclock it to 3.9 GHz at 1.42v

steep gust
#

I have a hyper 212 in my closet

buoyant rover
#

maybe you have some feature I don't know about

steep gust
#

1.42v is kinda edge of safe for rzyen 1

narrow fable
steep gust
narrow fable
#

1.5 is safe for 8th and 9th gen intel

#

O man

steep gust
#

no

narrow fable
#

My dud

latent light
#

I have it manually set to 3.8 GHz now at 1.375v with stock cooler lmao

steep gust
#

1.42v is around the max I would recommend

narrow fable
#

With the furry gifs

latent light
#

max temp is like 82C

steep gust
#

1.5v will kill it

narrow fable
#

1.5 is perfectly fine

steep gust
#

Asus recommends only 1.42v for 14nm Intel

narrow fable
#

I have me an 8700k that's been hit with 1.6

steep gust
#

yeah

#

for benchmarks

#

not long term

narrow fable
#

Very tru

steep gust
#

1.6v long term will kill it

#

same with 1.5v

red ingot
#

i have a 212 in my basement

narrow fable
#

I'm running 1.46 at the moment

#

If it dies

#

It'll force me to get a 1950x

#

I see no downside

buoyant rover
#

@steep gust for just a quick run or all time use?

#

normal usage should never go above 1.4v

#

that's AMD's recommended max

#

in fact I've heard 1.375v as well but I know 1.4v is fine

steep gust
#

quick runs is fine

#

long term 1.42v will not be safe on Rzyen 2 and I know people who have degraded their CPU's

buoyant rover
#

doubt it would do much

#

10 years to 9 maybe

steep gust
#

nah

#

like

#

6 months

buoyant rover
#

I have never seen proof of actual conclusive evidence done

narrow fable
#

^

steep gust
#

I got people who kept their 2700x at 50-60C max

#

1.4 fixed

narrow fable
#

Same as liquid metal destroying your cpu die

steep gust
#

and it degraded

narrow fable
#

I've never seen proof

buoyant rover
#

I'll believe it when i see it is all I'm saying

#

Personally I jsut stay within AMD's guidelines

steep gust
#

well one person claiming what liquid metal can do that is clearly bullshit is different than AMD's guidelines

latent light
#

I have my 1600 manually set to 3.8 GHz now at 1.375

latent light
#

ffs

#

50% packet loss since last night's storms

#

takes a website like 30 seconds to open

#

takes 10 seconds to send a discord message

queen field
#

Ooooo

#

Overclocking now induces packet loss!

#

New side effect?

latent light
#

nah, had terrible storm last night, power went out for 10 minutes and when it came back on, internet was really slow

#

ping went from 30 to 120

#

download speed from 3 to 1.4

#

it's still slow

queen field
#

Sounds like my flaky ISP is doing business over @ ur place @latent light

latent light
mental hatch
#

doesnt this guy only do rumors?

latent light
#

it's proven at this point

#

why does 3GB still exist

#

4GB should be the minimum

#

it's almost 2019

#

shipping dates for 2060 is January 15th

narrow fable
#

What?

#

They're still including the 3GB?!

#

That's actually a scam

#

I don't think there's a AAA game I play that uses less than 3GB of vram

latent light
#

Battlefield V will use less than 2GB at low settings

prime jasper
#

overwatch as an AAA tittle and a well optimised while gaming uses less than 1.5GB vram in max settings at 1080p

#

rainbow six siege with ultra hd textue pack pulls out 8gb of ram easily.

steep gust
#

ultra hd texture is 4k

#

so no duh

prime jasper
#

heh i used that special packing for 1080p default for nearly max settings 6~ gb vram used and still got 100+ fps on my 580

latent light
#

My rx 580 doesn't crash anymore after going back a windows update

prime jasper
#

Why would you even get a 2060?

#

I'm guessing its even weaker than a 2070 due to numbering scheme but?..

#

So we can have 1070 performance with RTX support for like 2 games, for the price of a 1080ti I'm guessing ?

#

Am I missing something here, I need to watch this video

steep gust
#

uh what

#

a 2070 is like $500

#

so logically a 2060 should be like $350

#

and hopefully be more like a 1070ti

latent light
#

I expect 30% higher performance than a 1060

#

like how 2070 is 30% faster than 1070

#

2080 30% faster than 1080

#

and so on

tawny venture
#

Hello! I got a question, i've lately wanted to play some BF3 after a long time again.... but i always get an error message about my DirectX i think?... I've reinstalled the game several times also platted my windows and set it up from 0%- 100% again but i still get the same Error and the youtube tutorials are also all successless... Does anyone know a way to fix that issue?;;

steep gust
#

download the right direct x ?

tawny venture
#

idk ;; i've installed the one in the origin games / Battlefield 3 folder

steep gust
#

Figure out what version it uses

#

then uninstall and download it again

tawny venture
#

okay!