#technology | Battlefield | Page 159

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:41 PM

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no problems for them

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2 sunsets, 1 phantom, and 1 normal

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did you return it?

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Best mouse is subjective

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Like very very very subjective

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I don't like super light mice

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:53 PM

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ehh not really

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light is better, inertia and shit, not that its DRAMATIC but theres no denying physics, and theres definitely no denying a good sensor, shape and size are subjective though

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Eh yes it is

The best competitive mouse is the one that is the best for you

As long as the hardware inside of it isnt holding you back

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:54 PM

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well I would prefer a "mouseglove" instead of a mouse

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Thing is, that weight makes very different in physics

F=MA

Heavy mice are still light in the grand scale and you aren't moving them very fast

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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if everything would work as expected with a regular mouse

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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say they made a finalmouse exactly the same, but it was 110 grams, the light mouse is better

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you might like heavier

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and thats fine

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but if you got used to light

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it would be better for you

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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And so is using the lowest possible sensitivity

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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I played too long with logitech G600 mmo mouse :D

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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exactly

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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its 133grams

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:55 PM

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lowest possible sens IS BEST

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doesnt mean everyone prefers it

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:56 PM

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can't stand too light mouses, they just fly all over

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:56 PM

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My accuracy is fine in most FPS once I get my flow going

It's not the biggest thing holding me back in FPS wesmart

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:56 PM

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but that doesnt mean that someone who is good at high sense shouldnt switch to low sens, get used to it, and be better

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Light mouse generally feel cheap in my experience

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:56 PM

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sure, they feel cheap

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but that doesnt negate that they are better

sonic osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:57 PM

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G903 is good mouse with the wireless charging

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:57 PM

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ive had the corsair m65, and now im using logitech g pro

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i liked heavy mice for how they felt in the hand

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:57 PM

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My G502 is like 160g

Nothing crazy

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:57 PM

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but im not gonna argue with physics

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 3:58 PM

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Physics is rarely ever the thing holding you back

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 3:58 PM

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all of this, and im not gonna recommend the finalmouse either. as long as you have a good sensor i dont care what mouse you use

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99.97% of people arent going to make use of any other mouse

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so yes, just use what you like

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if youre aspiring for top gameplay and you are basically capped out, i would recommend something light

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a control pad as well

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my friends are not great gamers, they are good, probably top 20-30% of players, but they have the mice because they like light mice and wanted to try it

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:00 PM

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uh

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i beg to differ

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i classify myself as the top 0.000001% of gamers

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HaHAA

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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and i use a brick as a mouse

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a literal brick

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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esports ready

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is it literally this:
https://www.geekalerts.com/u/The-Brick-Mouse.jpg

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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thats too light

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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that's a literal brick

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lol

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:02 PM

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not a lego brick

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like a mud and water clay brick

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:02 PM

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thonk

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i mean

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i don't think mouse weight matters that much imo, like shit at the end of the day you're mostly gliding it across your pad

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/693092/693092000005.jpg

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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maybe doing small lifts here and there. and its not like its gonna weigh 5lbs.. unless you're actually crazy

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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like that with a sensor and left and right click

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no middle button

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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wtf

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u have actual pics of your mouse

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or a model

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I mean I'm the top 1% in a few games

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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no one said you cant even be the best player in the world with a heavy mouse

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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according to stat tracker im currently in the top 100% HaHAA

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sites always goddam broken

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but no im genuinely curious now about your mouse

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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its just physics, the heavier the object is the harder it is to stop it

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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cause im picturing this massive fucking 5lb actual brick

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cause a brick aint light

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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and even though its not heavy in general

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it still causes SLIGHTLY more movement when you try to dead stop compared to a lighter mouse

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do sensors even pick that up?

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no idea

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do you flick and kind of time your shot as you PASS your target

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probably

fickle fulcrum Dec 21, 2018, 4:56 PM

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G pro wireless is prrtty nice, I've tried alot of other mouse but not the final mouse, so far that one's my favorite

rose eagle Dec 21, 2018, 4:58 PM

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bluetooth messes up rocket league on my new asus as well

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using a controller so must be a them problem

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 5:01 PM

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@fickle fulcrum yea, g pro is my favorite mouse so far

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ill get a finalmouse when they release a smaller version

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the g pro fits my hands pretty damn good, when i tried ultralight it just felt a little too big

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basically a zowie ec2a or razer death adder sized mouse in comparison

fickle fulcrum Dec 21, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Dude definitely, I had several razer deathadder, g703 and a few others and they all felt good but g pro feels the best in my hand as well

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Asus board still better

fickle fulcrum Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Does anyone get flickering from the trees/foliage on the twisted steel map, I always get it and was wondering if it's just me haha

prime jasper Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Yeah

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Razer

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https://www.ccn.com/razer-wants-gamers-to-mine-cryptocurrency-using-their-idle-gpus-but-you-probably-shouldnt/

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12/10

steep gust Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 PM

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You should never

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It's how Razer gets free money

mental hatch Dec 21, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Damn the return for users is stupid too lul it's just coupons and products for you to buy razer products

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God I can't wait for my blackwidow tournament to die so I have a reason to get a ducky keyboard

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Lol that's garbage

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Razer should be ashamed of themselves

prime jasper Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 PM

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I'm surprised its not being meme'd on like RTX was at first, lol

bleak parrot Dec 21, 2018, 7:58 PM

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when did the rtx titan get released

prime jasper Dec 21, 2018, 8:32 PM

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does anyone have a pc gmaing setup in their living room

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and/or with console

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@everyone @here

red ingot Dec 21, 2018, 8:55 PM

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woahping

latent light Dec 21, 2018, 9:03 PM

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ANGERYPINGSOCK

prime jasper Dec 21, 2018, 9:08 PM

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woahping

storm osprey Dec 21, 2018, 10:11 PM

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pingsock

latent light Dec 21, 2018, 10:19 PM

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YoshikoPing

last copper Dec 21, 2018, 11:35 PM

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for christmas I wish for this infinite loading screen bug to be fixed

mental hatch Dec 22, 2018, 12:43 AM

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i wish for christmas noobs

lament thistle Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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ytho woahping

latent light Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/250812/tsmc-cleared-to-build-new-3-nm-manufacturing-factory-in-southern-taiwan

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TSMC already planning on 3nm transistors

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GWfroggyPeepoDetective

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 3:57 AM

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PogChomp

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:23 AM

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!jumbo 😀 😀

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!jumbo😀

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nope

latent light Dec 22, 2018, 7:44 AM

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My RX 580 is having problems staying a its stock frequency and voltage, I think it's such a badly binned GPU that I have to underclock it to run games without crashing after an hour of playing

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I honesty think it's a highly binned RX 570 that was mistaken as a 580 when they did the yield test on it

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I underclocked it and will see if it helps

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Could be faulty or just a mistaken chip

solemn vector Dec 22, 2018, 7:50 AM

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hehe amd sucks

latent light Dec 22, 2018, 7:59 AM

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HaHAA

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Faulty is always a possibilty whether it's PC hardware, consoles, TVs, refrigerators, washing machines, cars, ect.

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This is the first time I've had a problem with an AMD gpu, I've had artifact problems with Nvidia GPUs like my GTX 770, had a faulty PS4 a few years ago that had problems with connecting to the dualshock controller, had a RROD xbox 360

solemn vector Dec 22, 2018, 10:00 AM

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ive had 2 nvidia gpus and both have been good

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2nd one probably 100000x better than the firstr

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going from AMD integrated graphics to 1050ti to RTX2070 is quite a jump lol

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 10:40 AM

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Try integrated Intel 520 to a 1070ti

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36x the power in a single jump, hahaYES

last copper Dec 22, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Bought a GTX480 back when they came out, it killed itself in the second month, RMA, card commits die again, sell dead card, buy AMD 5870, card doesn't die, build new PC with RX 470.

sick turtle Dec 22, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@last copper i remember those cards used to get way too hot as well

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I think they operate between 75-85c

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:34 PM

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That's hot, but not kill the card hot

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@atomic atlas you were the one who got the k95 platinum right?

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:37 PM

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mhmm

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why whats up

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:37 PM

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I just got one myself the other day happy

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Soooooo good

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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what keys

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better be brown

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Mx speed

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No

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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yuck

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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:(

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It's so fast tho

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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everything i own is corsair

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apart from my mouse

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Almost same

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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mousepad is 200mm

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corsair

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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I have corsair keyboard/mouse/mousepad

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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headset stand is corsair

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pc fans are all corsair

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Oof

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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headset is corsair

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Who buys a headset stand

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lul

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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me

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its rgb

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Arent those things like

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$100

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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ya

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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I'd buy one if it wasnt overpriced

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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LOL

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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It's a piece of plastic

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:39 PM

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no

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its actually good

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its metal

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Dont tempt me POW

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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metal coated

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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I spent too much already

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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its good if you have a wireless corsair headset

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or any wireless headset

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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I have wireless logitech:(

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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it has 2 usb ports

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Still really good

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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smooth rgb

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:40 PM

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But doesnt match all my other flashy corsair

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Mmm

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I have rgb keyboard/mouse/mousepad now

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HaHAA

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Looks super sexy

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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JoyDab

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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And rgb motherboard/ram/cpu cooler/gpu

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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rgb or bust

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Hehe

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Just need rgb fans now...

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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makes you a better gamer

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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But those are $50/each

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And yeah it does

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I'm waiting for a sale on the fans

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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next thing im getting is the amazon spot and the nano leafs

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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I'm not spending $50/fan

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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i did

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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What are those?

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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yikes

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Rip

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F

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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the ll120s are $50 each here

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Same here

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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and i have 6 of them

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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:(

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Fuck

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I need 5

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I dont wanna spend $250 on fans

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:/

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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its worth though

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Ughh

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Sale pls

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That's how I justify my spending

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I spent like 3k on pc upgrades this year

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:43 PM

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if you have the money and you have essentials spend it.
I have a well paying job so i can afford all of this

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:43 PM

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My well paying job starts in 1 month

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:(

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I mean I could afford it rn

atomic atlas Dec 22, 2018, 1:43 PM

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i own a stinger black edition 2017, and a kawasaki 2016

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JoyMinion

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 1:44 PM

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But it's also a matter of shouldnt I save some $$ lul

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cause i mean

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i was originally only upgrading my gpu this year

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and then i upgraded gpu/cpu/motherboard/ram/case mouse/mousepad/keyboard

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HaHAA

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whoops

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oh and monitor

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can't forget that..

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Just wondering is the errorcode "0x5c1007a4" a code regarding memory issues or what? from time to time in battlefield I get that

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=error+code+0x5c1007a4+bfv

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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what happened to the tech guys like majic

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or nick

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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they're gone my dude

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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why

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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just @storm osprey and I pretty much

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cause reasons

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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ok

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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but anyways @prime jasper best way to deal with error codes that don't really give u an explanation is to google it

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:37 PM

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if 10 people jump off a bridge and tells you thats the solution do you trust them :? If you think im an idiot fine, dont respond.. (basicly Im asking a question not asking for help to fix it)

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its always google first then ask with these things bro

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u r just getting someone to do the same job that you would have to do, which is googling the error code

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ok, sorry I should make myself clear.

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Just wondering is the errorcode "0x5c1007a4" a code regarding memory issues or what? from time to time in battlefield I get that (---->if you found a solution that worked for you please tell me 😃 <-----)

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yes but did u still not find anything on google to help you with it

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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well, as in even if i did get that error code, I really really really don't think I'd remember it

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0x5c1007a4 is not a sequence that's easy to remember

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I could've gotten error 0x5f8307k3

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which is probably something completely different (that's probably not an error code btw, it's an example)

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better thing to ask is "I googled " ", found these solutions - does anyone know how to do this? have advice? think it's a good idea? etc.

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otherwise like @prime jasper said, you're just asking us to google for you

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:42 PM

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The thing is.. Im not one of those where you have to ask "is the power cord inside the computer", when im asking here Im asking for people who maby had the same issues when : Google dont give me a good enought result than a "worked for me", or no responce to threads

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 PM

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well i don't see how any of our google-fu skills are gonna bring up any better results for you then 🤷

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ultimately i'd contact ea support then

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and make a ticket - someone internally might have a fix (as in they'd know that that error code means, presumably)

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 PM

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last question before I switch channels, so basicly what you are saying is that this channel is NOT for persons with unknown issues but for people who dont use google xD? (please answer) tx for answering 😃 nought said. have a great holidays to all

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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👍

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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why is this discord so awkward and passive aggressive

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 PM

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🤷

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who knows

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people don't like being wrong

dry aurora Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 PM

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hey guys all my games are crashing what do i do lol

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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throw pc/console out window

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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ring up tech support

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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hello welcome to tech support how can i help u

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oh yes i hear you're having an issue, is it plugged in?

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yes it is? are you sir? please double check again

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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wow i actually laughed lol

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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you're sure it's actually in a wall socket?

steep gust Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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remove overclocks

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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lol i just see the n word flash away quickly i am laughing

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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you're sure it doesn't look like this sir?

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https://external-preview.redd.it/BRaiiq7fYoruy5zTBCVyv59VDcD09gdyunYlCYNNLHY.jpg?width=1024&s=78af21d6acb92fb5d2ebd7f67ce057e3e8d91c51

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Thats the wrong socket sir

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 PM

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thought u said you were switching channels

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thonk

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:53 PM

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dont be rude

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i leave now as well bye

red ingot Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 PM

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lol

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bye

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😦

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 6:58 PM

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does anyone know if they are going to add BFV to the Battlefield companion soon?

latent light Dec 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Thanking

dark idol Dec 22, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Anyone else had the problem that the game auto alt tabs out of nowhere and when you want to open it it crashes?

prime jasper Dec 22, 2018, 8:03 PM

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i do not, but try changing it from full screen to borderless. i have issues with the screen flickering till i alt tab out and back in

dark idol Dec 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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ive seen people with the same issue

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on other games aswell

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seems it is Office

molten bramble Dec 22, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Anyone have the MSI MEG Z390 ACE?

solemn vector Dec 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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naaaaah

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I have ASRock Z270 Taichi

molten bramble Dec 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Oh

solemn vector Dec 22, 2018, 9:39 PM

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lol

fickle fulcrum Dec 22, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Anyone got flickering in foliage on the twisted steel map?

violet plank Dec 22, 2018, 11:07 PM

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yes @fickle fulcrum very annoying,but pretty random

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happens most of the time with tanks i guess

vestal torrent Dec 23, 2018, 12:32 AM

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@fickle fulcrum I’ve gotten that a couple times

rigid knoll Dec 23, 2018, 10:55 AM

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It's just Charlie in the bushes. Shoot at it to stop the flickering

quaint topaz Dec 23, 2018, 2:05 PM

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i7-8700K
GTX 1070 (both not overclocked)

averaging 105fps on Max settings with DX12

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what do ya'll think?

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Gpu capped

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 2:29 PM

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^

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Bfv just loves to eat our hardware 😭

quaint topaz Dec 23, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Tbh

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BF1 loved eating my old CPU

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it was an i5-6600K

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Yikes

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Probably should have got a 1070ti or 1080 and a 8600k

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Games still don't scale well with hyper threading

prime jasper Dec 23, 2018, 4:31 PM

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~~Also I can now see why most games don't support multi-core, I'm currently trying to figure it out for my own project, & its fucking AIDs to learn at first & deal with in general~~

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I wonder how they handle such things in C++ though, since I imagine its much different than Python

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Oh I'm sure building an engine to be multi threaded is aids

grave cobalt Dec 23, 2018, 4:57 PM

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so when the two loading icon fix?

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Its not that games dont scale well with hyperthreading, its that you would actually need 2x 2080ti to pump enough rendering speed for the fps

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Well for what fps lol

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Apparently 1 2080ti can get like 144fps ultra

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At 1440p

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Well, like 9900k is only 50% utilized for 200fps

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Huh

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I mean

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My 9700k gets pretty high utilization in bfv

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:12 PM

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So could push more from cpu to get 90%+ utilization

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Like 80+% at all times

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I run around 120fps

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Im pretty much gpu capped at 140ish

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On the ultrawide

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Yeah

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My 1080ti is always running max

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Lol

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:13 PM

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So its more of gpu issue than cpu to get more stable 200fps

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Unless running like 720p

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Makes sense

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Although

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My 4770k did bottleneck hard in bfv

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Which you could do with DLSS to get 1440p output

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:14 PM

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I feel like u need 8700k+ to play bfv at high frames

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(Anecdotal)

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:14 PM

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6core+ yeah

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So much parallel operations going on

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Yeah

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I've heard people complain with their 6/7 gen i7s saying they're CPU bound

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And I can confirm I was 100% cpu bound on 4th gen

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Crazy

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:15 PM

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@sonic osprey That isn't at all how FPS and CPU loads work

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Wtf

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:15 PM

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🍿

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:15 PM

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A 9900k at 200fps is going to be at a lot more than 50% load

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at 1080p

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Please start telling me how game loops work

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I want to be educated

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:17 PM

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It depends entirely on the engine

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:17 PM

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i mean

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i feel like i agree with @steep gust just cause that sounds more correct to me, but my knowledge is extremely limited

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:17 PM

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does DX12 make your cpu usage higher on your 9700K?

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:17 PM

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all I know is generally games are more gpu intensive than cpu, and gpu usage increases as res increases (more cpu intensive at lower res)

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not sure

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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CPU load doesn't change with resolution

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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but i found dx12 ran better than dx11

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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GPU load does, and if your GPU can't keep up

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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with my 9700k

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Then your CPU doesn't have to work as hard

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Since it isn't the bottleneck

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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well that's what i mean

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like

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higher res = cpu less load

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🤷

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Resolution has absolutely nothing to do with how many "frames" your cpu can process

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:18 PM

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you can run a 1080 Ti with a Pentium G4560 if you play 4K, it will run stable

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:19 PM

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thonk

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wat

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can't tell if srs or meme

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:19 PM

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serious

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:19 PM

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If you have gpu that could render the frame in 0ms

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:19 PM

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lower resolutions create bigger CPU bottleneck

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but at 4K, gpu becomes bottleneck

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:19 PM

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You could fully utilize your cpu to get max fps

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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fully utilizing CPU is bad though

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Resolution and details are all gpu things, if the details dont affect physics of ingame objects

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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why?

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why would fully utilizing your cpu be a bad idea

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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also not factual

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Lots of games still use a CPU for more than FPS

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and your dips on a 2c 4t CPU are gonna suck ass

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:21 PM

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yeah, that sounds more correct to me..

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:21 PM

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fully utilized CPU means unstable frametimes and you better hope no background process will cause huge stuttering

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:21 PM

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ah

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yeah that makes sense

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so i mean, i guess higher utilization would be fine, just as long as it doesn't max out

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so there's some buffer

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:21 PM

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BF1 maxes out my CPU

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its fine

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solid 150-200fps

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resolution scale at 150% means CPU and GPU are both around 100% usage

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:22 PM

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9900k could run maybe 300fps on bfv, if gpu processing was not bottlenecking

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:23 PM

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My 8600k does over 200fps on BF1, while I haven't bothered with BFV yet they are similar enough

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It depends entirely on the engine

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Frostbite is limited to 200fps anyways IIRC

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:24 PM

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is that on medium settings?

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Well fps and ingame "ticks" are two different things, not to mention server tickrates

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People always only think fps as frames processed by gpu

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:25 PM

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max settings

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:26 PM

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But it is mostly that the game loop calculates the things happening ingame and gpu justs renders the scene, if scene render would take 0ms and unlimited fos in bfv, you could see how much "max" frames your cpu can do ingame

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:26 PM

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I get 90 fps on ultra with my RX 580

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about 10 fps more than a 1060

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thonk

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I hate when people compare cpus on ultra details

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:27 PM

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but why

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:27 PM

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yeah you see the biggest differences in lower resolutions and lower settings

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Ofc it is "realistic" scenario, but has nothing to do which is better cpu

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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If the GPU is the same

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It has no difference on the settings

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You only care about the % difference then

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Well they are most likely gpu capped at ultra

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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I'm not

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100% CPU usage

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80-90% GPU

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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CPU limited

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Ye thanks 1080p

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Im talking about new cpus

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Not old ones

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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8600k isn't old

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Years old

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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8600K is like 14 months old

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not old

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Literally the exact same as a 9600k

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and mine is overclocked

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So better than a 9600k

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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9600K and 8600K are the exact same except a slightly higher stock speed

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:29 PM

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9600k has a thicker die

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but yeah the exact same IPC, etc

The only difference is stock speeds

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Which mean nothing

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:30 PM

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they made all the dies thicker on 9th gen? thought it was only for the 9900K

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:30 PM

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They are all the same die

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9600k, 9700k, and 9900k are identical physically

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:30 PM

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yes

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disabled cores because they didn't function well

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:32 PM

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The "lesser" cpus are always the ones that did not perform well in stress tests, same like the oc gpus, factory ocd to get max of the cores

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:32 PM

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did they make the dies thicker for thermals?

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Solder stress

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Die can crack if too thin, which is bad for yields

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:33 PM

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cracks aren't visible to the eye are they

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 9:34 PM

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If its bad enough it could visibly crack, but idk

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:36 PM

#

if next gen Ryzen has a 16-core CPU capable of reaching 5GHz overclock for only $500, will it be worth?

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thonk

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Depends on a lot of things

#

Mostly on what will intel reveal after amd plays their hand

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:38 PM

#

Intel 10nm rumored for Q4 2019

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Ryzen 7nm for Q2 2019

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they say TSMC 7nm is equal to Intel 10nm

#

thonk

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:39 PM

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I would still say that by end of 2019, the fastest gaming cpu is intel

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:39 PM

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TSMC is already investing into 3nm

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2020, Ryzen will be ahead on Intel if DDR5 comes out

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Ryzen scales much higher with faster memory

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DDR5 5200 MHz memory leaked a couple months ago

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Only because quad channel in mobos

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:42 PM

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wew

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5200mhz

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:42 PM

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2080 has 7000mhz ddr6

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:43 PM

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damn

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:43 PM

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APUs on DDR5 will be amazing

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will say again, next decade, APUs will take over

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Technic is there just need memory controllers on mobos

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:44 PM

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excuse my stupidity

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:44 PM

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considering intel in the past few years have gotten some of the Radeon team to join them, Intel will start creating APUs too

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:44 PM

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but how is it that GPU memory is so much faster/ahead of system memory?

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:44 PM

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More channels

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Its 7000/6

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm80GABuCxo

YouTube

theTechnician

Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel Memory | RYZEN THREADRIPPER | GTX 1080

➤ If you guys have a little time, pay a visit to my channel & if you like my work, SUBSCRIBE ➢ https://goo.gl/Dfe2b1 ➤➤ Get in touch with me on Social Media ...

▶ Play video

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quad channel isn't much faster

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only like 10-20%

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Ryzen has quad channel support, hence faster than intel. But xeons also have quad channel

#

Comparison done in a game?

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Threadripper and Epyc have quad-channel support

#

Epyc also has Octa-channel support

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

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interesting

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

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yeah that video show game comparison, although he's only using a GTX 1080 (non-Ti)

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

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but yet dual channel is so much faster than single?

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

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yes, double bandwidth

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:49 PM

#

interesting how it scales

#

cause wouldn't quad be 2x bandwith of dual?

#

at least logically that seems how it would be

#

1 - 2 = 100% increase, 2 - 4 = 100% increase

#

🤷

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:49 PM

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games won't see much improvement using more than dual-channel

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rendering and servers will

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:49 PM

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ah

#

guess that makes sense

#

so it is 2x the bandwith, but like the game won't make use of it

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

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3600mhz ddr4, is just 900mhz dimms

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

#

quad-channel does see quite better 1% lows than dual channel though

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which means less fps dips

red ingot Dec 23, 2018, 9:51 PM

#

hm

#

so like

#

for any future upgrades, it would make more sense to go quad channel vs dual channel

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:52 PM

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it's expensive

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Ddr4 is already quad channel

#

You just need cpu and mobo that supports it

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:52 PM

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yeah just need Threadripper or Xeon

#

I think current Threadripper is a waste of money because next gen will have Ryzen 9 with 16 cores and around 5 GHz overclocking

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Basically technic to have 6channels is already there in rtx cards, but not utilized in mobos/cpu

#

Its gonna be stupid of amd to publish so much better spec cpus with so little increase in price

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:55 PM

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yeah, they won't see much profit margin

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:55 PM

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So I would have reservations on the final pricing

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:55 PM

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then again, 7nm is cheap to manufacture

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Its not about manufactoring costs, its market pricing that will determine the price, its just bigger profit margin if costs are lower

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:57 PM

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would be smart if they had entry level at $130 and when intel comes out with their competition, they go to $100

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kind of like what they did when Intel came out with 8th gen to respond to first gen Ryzen

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Or amd and intel have a deal what cpus on what segment they produce and sell 😂

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 9:58 PM

#

hyperthink

sonic osprey Dec 23, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Because there is very little overlap in there if you look closely

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:44 PM

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@latent light TSMC 7nm is not equal to Intel 10nm

That is said by people who don't know shit

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Same thing with the RX 590 die shrink

Its on fucking 12nm, 12nm =/= 14nm please stop saying it is

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:46 PM

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some are speculating that if Intel and TSMC are at the same transistor size, Intel will be a little better always

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Zen 2 is surrounded by leaks, and I would be questionable on all of them

#

Thing is, there is a lot more to CPUs than just transistor size

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

yeah

#

12nm is a little more efficient than 14nm right

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

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With everything else identical, yes

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

RX 590 is basically a high binned RX 580

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

no

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

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why not

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Different GPU

#

Like entirely different GPU

That comparison works a little better for something like a 480 and 580

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

so many will say that the 590 is an overclocked 580 lol

#

HyperKek

#

performance wise it is

#

only problem with the 590 is the high TDP

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225W TDP, higher than Vega 56

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also it should be only $30 more than a 580 tbh

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 10:53 PM

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RX 580s are fucking cheap

#

Due to mining going boom (downwards)

#

$180 for a 580 8GB is honestly a crazy good deal

#

When the cheapest 1060 6GB is $230

prime jasper Dec 23, 2018, 10:54 PM

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hey i have stuttering issues on pc, is there a fix for this?

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 10:54 PM

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I got my 580 for $200, came with 2 games

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too bad my 580 is terribly binned, can't run stable at stock clock

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underclocked it to around 480 performance

#

now it's stable

#

@steep gust saw a good deal on facebook marketplace, i5-4570, 4GB ram and a RX 480 4GB build for $300

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no idea why only 4gb ram

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like why have a cpu and gpu like that but only 4gb ram

#

think_vibrate

#

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/302578780370147

Gaming Computer

Gaming Computer. $300. Looking to sell my gaming desktop or trade for a ps4 pro / ps4 or a Xbox one x / Xbox one depending on what all is involved in the trade. Would really like red dead redemption 2 to be in the trade. Might consider a Nintendo switch too. Specs for the PC ...

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yeah here it is

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 11:00 PM

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'gaming'

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 11:00 PM

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can't play many games with 4gb ram lol

mental hatch Dec 23, 2018, 11:00 PM

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damn like $40 to just go to 16gb ram and getting a quality psu and thats a really good gaming pc

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 11:00 PM

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no its not

#

4c 4t cpu

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 11:01 PM

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4c/4t will still run all games

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 11:01 PM

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not very well

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 11:01 PM

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I see the Pentium G4560 running BFV above 60 fps

mental hatch Dec 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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also not everyone only plays this game there are other games like csgo or fortnite that 6+ cores aren't really needed

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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average fps isn't very useful

#

dips are what you notice

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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only thing wrong with that build is the ram

#

cpu is perfectly fine for $300 build

#

damn

#

Fx-8350 runs BF1 and BFV better than Pentium G4560

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LUL

steep gust Dec 23, 2018, 11:17 PM

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more 'cores' and faster frequency

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While it has a lot of issues

#

Its not terrible

latent light Dec 23, 2018, 11:18 PM

#

📎 941f0b0f82d55dd5568ccd11ca10e86a.png

#

ahyperLUL

#

didn't know overwatch was so core demanding

red trellis Dec 24, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Where i can put a bug of crash?

storm osprey Dec 24, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

ℹ Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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!support

#

HaHAA

storm osprey Dec 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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not trusted

#

not even trusted to give out a fucking support

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Me irl

#

HaHAA

#

That's why I give up when someone asks for support sometimes

#

I only remember the help.ea.com one

#

But theres a bunch of others. I just dish that out from now on..

#

Tbh there should probably just be a sticky for it or stick all the links in #500058972234055710 (not all the links are there)

junior ploverBOT Dec 24, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:22 AM

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mad

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only like 1h late

#

@pastel stream

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:27 AM

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i cant make a screen u have to look at a video

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:27 AM

#

link?

#

and what gpu? whats happening?

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:27 AM

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im gonna stream a bit click on my name

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ok its live click on me name

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:28 AM

#

!seppuku - comit seppuku for the Emperor lul

#

well played

#

and good lord

#

um

#

only happening on bfv?

#

latest drivers?

#

tried repair install on bfv?

#

temps okay?

#

reinstalled drivers with ddu?

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:31 AM

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im gonna reinstall

#

gonna try bf1 and some other games

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:31 AM

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ok

#

otherwise u might have to rma

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:31 AM

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card aint mine 😂

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:32 AM

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rip

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:32 AM

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does the same in bf1

#

im gonna try drivers

#

ive seen this problem before but i cant remember what it was

#

like whats the technical term for this its not artifacts

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:36 AM

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no clue

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:38 AM

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restarting brb

#

it didnt do anything lul

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

#

rip

#

probably hardware issue

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:48 AM

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yeah probably is

#

lesson for today

#

dont buy ASUS stuff

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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ASUS motherboards and Nvidia graphics cards are fine

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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i dont know bud i rather by MSI boards for AMD

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

#

er yeah

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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and asrock for intel

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

#

ASUS is probably one of the best

#

imo

#

although i am a bit bias

#

:3

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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1 of my friends 1080 went brezerk like 90C non stop he RMA

#

2 weeks down the line artifacts on the new card and dead RMA again

#

he is waiting for a new one

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

#

wow

#

rip

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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now i test this one and u see wut happens

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:51 AM

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wtf

#

3 1080s from asus

#

all the same issue?

#

are u sure it's not something else?..

#

that's

#

extremely odd

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:51 AM

#

its 3 dudes

#

1st one works fine but goes to 90C non stop all the time its on full load

#

we test it on 3 pcs

#

1 is amd even still poop

#

we RMA 2nd works fine then artifacatst

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

#

wtf

#

wow

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

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we RMA and now this one i dont even know what this is

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

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i think you might be the unluckiest person i've ever met

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

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they send them to Austria and back

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

#

three RMAs in a row

#

thats insane

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

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no idea i have MSI card

#

lightning z

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

#

all asus?

#

asus has some of the best RMA support too...

#

usually they do 2 way shipping

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

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yeahh all 3 asus

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

#

wtf

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

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2 were 1080 ti we wait for the new 1

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

#

that is so fucking weird

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 AM

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and this one is 1080

#

watch them tell us gib 200$ we sent u rtx 2080

#

and that blows up in an instant

#

after it displays IT JUST WORKS and its BEAUTIFUL

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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none of the 2080s have blown up

#

EVGA had some issues with 1070s blowing up tho

#

and taking your whole system

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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huh

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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all the 2080s blow up wut are u talking about

#

its the biggest dogshit card since they made a video card with ddr4 ram

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Source?

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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most problems with RTX 2000 cards are just founders edition right?

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Yeah

#

Some of (less than 1%) of the 2080TI have issues

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:55 AM

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ti has no issues

#

just the 2080s

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Source?

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:55 AM

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just open any of the 9 mainstream tech channels

#

jayz gamernexus taliban guy linus

#

whoever lul

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Alright

#

Gamer's Nexus

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:56 AM

#

u can even click on their video about which products were the worst this year

#

2080s there

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:56 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK5G2sOXb0k

#

2080TI

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:56 AM

#

taliban guy
what

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:56 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsICqQYwgAE

#

Dying 2080TI

#

The worst product of the year doesn't mean it explodes

#

Just means its a bad thing to buy

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:57 AM

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i would rather have it explode so it least its worth it

#

like that samsung ipad

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:57 AM

#

2080TI

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0dRm5DqHWQ

#

Man

#

Its hard to find videos on the 2080s exploding

#

Yet I thought major tech channels were covering it

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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probably cause then they'll magically stop receiving free cards from nvidia

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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FTW3 ultra crashing and XC

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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and magically stop receiving free shit from other sponsors

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1079930/geforce-rtx-20-series/rtx-2080-ti-founders-edition-contact-us/

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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u shit on a company? goodbye freebies

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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Man

#

Nvidia even says 2080TI has issues

#

but not the 2080

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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lol

#

thats my guess as to why major tech channels aren't covering it that much tho

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cause they got a lot to lose

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Gamer's Nexus has gotten dozens of 2080TIs from viewers to teardown

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 1:59 AM

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i dont know just fuck the no video lads

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 1:59 AM

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🤷

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just my guess

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 1:59 AM

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JayzTwoCents has mentioned it

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LTT might have, dunno don't keep up

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They all mention it, thing is

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Its not a big problem

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its been blown WAY out of proportion from the numbers given on RMA rates

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 2:00 AM

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JayzTwoCents is a massive shill

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 2:00 AM

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That's nice, didn't ask

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:00 AM

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yo Judge can you click on my stream again and clip like alittle bit

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so i can show it to my friend

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@red ingot im on

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 2:02 AM

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https://gyazo.com/4f7af4db7e9aa1cd902eb6156ad21eba

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there u go sir

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:03 AM

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tnx dfude

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 2:03 AM

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np

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:06 AM

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so nobody knows what the term for this is

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 2:07 AM

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No, only thing close to it that I've seen is when some shaders get blocked in Unity (in another game)

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:09 AM

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the fun thing would be if i swap to my main card back

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and still happens

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😂

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 2:11 AM

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HaHAA

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Make sure drivers are up to date and the old ones are properly uninstalled, remove any overclocks, uninstall and download game again (not just verify files)

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I'm not even seeing 100fps on my 2700x & 1070ti on BF5 blob_cry

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 2:16 AM

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id die if every time card was rma'd its cause it was an unstable oc

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lul

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Pascal / Turing GPUs have overclocking locked down

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You can't really make the issues of a dying GPU from overclocking

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 2:17 AM

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no well

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if all the artifacting

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rma cause unstable oc not working

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keep rma'ing until u win silicon lottery

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wesmart

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Onlygodscout u are doing it wrong bro wut

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@prime jasper something is wrong on ur settings

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are you playing everything on low but meshes and future reneding on

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 2:35 AM

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I have everything maxed out

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And everything on

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:35 AM

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lul so how do u expect to have 100fps

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even best card best everything runs the game at 139 fps

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:36 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/devin_spell/saved/YMydXL I wanna do this in the summer

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:36 AM

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navi is coming

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might wait for that see how it is

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get 3200 memory

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Navi GPUs? There is no gpu in the build because I already have a 960 that used to be in my pc being gettign a 1060

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:37 AM

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also fuck the seagate crap

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get like 1TB ssd

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:37 AM

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I need more storage than 1tb

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I use alot of storage XD

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I have 2 1TB HDDs in my current PC, no SSD as of yet

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:38 AM

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if u make videos or torrent or pictures etc i get ya

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for everything else ssd i feel its better

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I do make vids. Although now that I think about it, this PC will not be a replacement for my main PC

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I just wanna have a small form factor build in addition to my full ATX PC

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@pastel stream Updated the build

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:46 AM

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seems better

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is that the best mini ITX

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are u US

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:47 AM

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Yeah, US

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:49 AM

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ryzen 2nd series is better

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than all the 1st series

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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True. Although if I bought a 2600, its going in my main PC and I would move the 1600 to the small form factor PC

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 2:58 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4XB8w6

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 3:00 AM

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@pastel stream Hey thats pretty good

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 3:02 AM

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yeah but u have to buy the riotoro thingy

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 3:02 AM

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From?

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 3:02 AM

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its prob 40$

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i guess their site

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its 55$

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or jsut get the CM case i never used it no idea about it

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 3:05 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dM8H99/silverstone-case-sstsg13b This case looks nice

pastel stream Dec 24, 2018, 3:05 AM

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silverstone are fine

agile rain Dec 24, 2018, 3:07 AM

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And then for Win 10, you can usually get keys from "third party sites"

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👀

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Going to RMA my rx 580

last copper Dec 24, 2018, 5:00 AM

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what happened

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Runs a few games stable, but War Thunder, Witcher 3, PUBG all hard crash after an hour of playing

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When it crashes, my monitors will change inputs for a few seconds

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📎 20181219_153421.jpg

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And this is the error message

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Tried 6 different drivers

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:02 AM

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out of a 3gb 1060 and an base clock i5 4670k, would you guys agree that the bottleneck is the cpu?

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:03 AM

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It might be for BFV

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My 580 has problems with power delivery I think

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I notice random low voltage spikes during heavy benchmarks

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:06 AM

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FeelsBadMan

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Gl with RMA

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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@paper spindle no

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Sucks to happen now :(

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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it depends 100% on the load

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are you just talking about playing battlefield?

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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yep

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just bfv

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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is the CPU at 100% load?

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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For bfv I say yes

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My 4770k was bottlenecking

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:07 AM

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both of those are going to have issues

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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So your 4670k definitely is

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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1060 because of 3gb vram

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and 4670k because only 4 threads

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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3gb is enough to play on low

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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1060 is definitely workable though

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Or probably even medium

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I play on high @red ingot

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with a 3gb

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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There u go

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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you won't avoid performance issues though

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I'm estimating lol

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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it stutters because of the vram

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Ah

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Then turn it down a bit

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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when certain stuff is going on you drop

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but most of the time its ok

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:08 AM

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3gb is enough for sure on low

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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maybe

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I haven't seen how much vram BFV uses

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Dunno how high u can go without it being an issue

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On max it's about 5gb

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(I run max)

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I mean on the lower cards

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Ah

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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or settings

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Dunno

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I mean

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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cpu is definitely at 100% load

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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if the CPU is at 100% load during any task its a bottleneck

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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U can hit the "restrict video memory" option

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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probably gonna pick up an aftermarket cooler and OC

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Thst might help

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Tbh

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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OCing won't help @paper spindle

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Itll still bottleneck

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:10 AM

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you only have 4 threads

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buying a used 4790k would help

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:10 AM

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My 4770k at 4.2ghz was bottlenecking

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:10 AM

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or just jumping to 8th/9th gen Intel/AMD Ryzen

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:10 AM

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And that's 4c4t

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So only way to avoid bottleneck is what turbo said

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:10 AM

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You either need 8 threads

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or preferably 12

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Can confirm that 9700k runs smooth :)

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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so like I said either buy a used 4790k or just go ahead and go to 8th/9th gen Intel or Ryzen

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My Ryzen 1600 runs the game 100% fine

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Tbh I'd just go ahead and upgrade

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Then you're "futureproofed" a bit more

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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1600 only runs at 3.4GHz with stock settings and I run the game fine

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Nice

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noice

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:11 AM

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I'd be at 3.8GHz but Battlefield has stupid bugs with overclocking Ryzen

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Huh

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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OCing won't help, not even any fps gain?

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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sound doesn't work when you overclock

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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My gtx 770 2gb will run bfv on medium 60 fps

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Maybe @paper spindle

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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I'm sure it would help some, but it won't stop your i5 from being an issue @paper spindle

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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^

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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1060 3gb should easily do medium settings

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:12 AM

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U gonna need to upgrade son

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:13 AM

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oh for sure I'm aware of that, just trying to optimize what I have atm

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:13 AM

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I wouldn't spend money on a cooler unless its one you can re-use later

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as in, it has the potential to be mounted on 8th/9th gen boards

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:14 AM

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true

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very true

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:14 AM

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I can recommend the h100i

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Worked for me on 4th gen board also works on the 9th gen board (intel)

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Had it for like ~4 years now and it's still going strong

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:15 AM

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a cheaper air cooler will work just as well

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up to you if you want the looks of an AIO or not for the $25-30 USD difference

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:15 AM

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True

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Hyper 212 solid budget cooler

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Air cooler

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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definitely not a 212

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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had that back in the day

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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212 is outdated now

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Had it before my h100i, tbh that thing performs almost as well as an AIO (especially of u mount 2 fans to it, although note it only comes with 1)

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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probably...

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Scuse me

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:16 AM

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was good back when but there are better coolers now

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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212 is sexy

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Dont hate

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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just saying there are better coolers for cheaper now

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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I still have it somewhere

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Oof

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That things like $20 still

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lul

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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ANGERYCRY

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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besides that, the 212 is also apparently one of the hardest coolers to mount

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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That I can confirm

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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heard it has an aids mounting system

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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It is hard

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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It is aids

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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what makes it hard?

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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But

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Had a 212 evo, was annoying

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 AM

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It's a rite of passage

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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I'd rather have a cyrorig m9a

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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it truly is

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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or a gammaxx 400

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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No

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Everyone must have a 212

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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either one of those would be better

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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At one point

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It's a rite of passage

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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I also wouldn't use a 212 on Intel's newer stuff

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Intel went the way of the room heater with their newer i7s

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 AM

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To say u overcame the hardship

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lul

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Really?

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Newer i7s run hotter

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🤔

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:19 AM

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yeah

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8700k is 6c/12t

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9700k is 8c/8t

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both are very hot compared to older chips so i've heard

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don't get me started on the 9900k

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:21 AM

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well thanks guys, seems like I'll have to upgrade sometime in the future....1060 should give me a few more years tbh

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Oh yeah it should

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Just your cpu :(

paper spindle Dec 24, 2018, 5:21 AM

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hahah yeah that's old, I can't deny that

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Can confirm 9700k is hotter

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Same cooler as my 4770k

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Why does 3gb 1060 even exist, why not make it 4gb

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Runs hotter

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Cause they want to make u upgrade

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HaHAA

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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@latent light Who knows, it's an ok card

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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wesmart

buoyant rover Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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4gb would have made loads more sense though

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 AM

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But $$$

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Then u pay for new card

latent light Dec 24, 2018, 5:24 AM

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If Navi has gtx 1080 performance for only $300 or less

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Then damn

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AMD would get a lot of market share

mortal nacelle Dec 24, 2018, 5:26 AM

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go away amd 😄

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Competition is good

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Hi

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I want buy asus fx504 with i7 8gh and 1050 . Its good for gaming?

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:50 AM

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Uh depends what games u wanna play

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Should be okay for most tho imo

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:50 AM

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@red ingot bf and rainbow six siege and pubg

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:50 AM

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U mean i7 8700k?

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8700k and 1050 should be okay

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Although 1050 might struggle a bit on bfv but should be able to do 60fps 1080p low

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@red ingot no its 8750h

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:52 AM

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Why u getting the h?

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Like why 8750h ?

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Also u didnt list ram but make sure u get at least 16gb

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And dual channel

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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Because its Cheapest laptop I find

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@red ingot its 8gb of ram but I can upgrade that

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Ah okay laptop

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Well I'd recommend desktop unless u absolutely need a laptop

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But otherwise yeah as long as u get 16gb ram I think u should be Ok

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8gb should be enough for pubg and siege its just bfv

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Bfv will do better with 16gb

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:57 AM

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But I can play bf 1 and lower?

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:57 AM

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With 8gb? Yeah.

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Like bfv will run on 8gb

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Just that you'll likely see better performance with 16 (imo 8 will bottleneck bfv)

noble meadow Dec 24, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Thanks

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Np

whole birch Dec 24, 2018, 11:25 AM

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i'm a poor guy) i bought this https://i.imgur.com/pdSXlOu.jpg , waiting for it to arrive, i have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 gigs, and 8 gigs of ram, will it be good with BF1 and BFV? now i have an i3 cpu, i'm pile up some money to get at least 16 gigs of ram

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i play BF1 on low and it's playable with i3, can't wait to see some changes)

thin pewter Dec 24, 2018, 12:59 PM

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https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-GTX1070-O8G/

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This a good card?

strong breach Dec 24, 2018, 1:01 PM

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I have exactly that gpu

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Clap

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 2:54 PM

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1070ti is slightly cheaper and offers far better perf

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well i wouldn't say far better but its considerable

fickle fulcrum Dec 24, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Anyone get occasional frame drops/stutters for a second, just started recently and my system is pretty top notch, my internet is fast too so I can't figure out what it could be

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Overclock?

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Generally frame drops are GPU related

fickle fulcrum Dec 24, 2018, 4:17 PM

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I do have it overclocked a little, I'll try it without overclocking it!, thxs

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 4:18 PM

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max out the voltage / power limits

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it should smooth out the clocks

fickle fulcrum Dec 24, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Thank! I have power limit set to max but haven't messed with voltage in precisionx, that's a good tip

steep gust Dec 24, 2018, 4:20 PM

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voltage limit on GPUs is not like a CPU

You won't fry your GPU by setting it to 100%, it really doesn't even change the voltage that much on Pascal

fickle fulcrum Dec 24, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Wow, never knew that, goto do that first thing then

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When I get home and play bfv haha thxs again!

prime jasper Dec 24, 2018, 4:31 PM

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help

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my emblem is not working

molten bramble Dec 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

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BOOM! New build is complete y'all. 😄

storm osprey Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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nice

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what did you build?

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Nice

molten bramble Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Much thanks to @dull zephyr and @quaint topaz for some troubleshooting help.

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Pls say u got rgb

molten coral Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Chag

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New build is always fun

molten bramble Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Unfortunately, the board does contain some RGB...

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Yesss

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What do u mean unfortunately

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mad

molten coral Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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RGB? The light from the devil? monkachrist

red ingot Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Rgb makes your pc run faster