so like.. if im standing in town with no music in poe
#technology
rose eagle
red ingot
cpu fan?
red ingot
Ohhhhhhh
Rip
Oh yeah that's the issue you've been talking about this whole time
Rip
Time to switch to asus
I think my sound quality actually improved with this board vs my old
rose eagle
that board has bluetooth 5.0?
rose eagle
yea.. nice
mine has 4.4, but i mean i just wouldnt want to lose BT
cause i started playing RL with wireless
no more cord!
even though now i cant play 😄
hmm.. im not even sure ive tried wired
red ingot
Can always get a bluetooth adapter
rose eagle
maybe BT is causing insane issues
red ingot
...
rose eagle
red ingot
I'd laugh if that was the issue the whole time
rose eagle
BT for rocket league
red ingot
Hey bluetooth is still a thing dont hate
rose eagle
input isnt as important
red ingot
Use it for my xbox controller
rose eagle
how else you gonna connect xbox to pc?
rose eagle
is it not BT?
rose eagle
it works via wireless or what?
red ingot
Yah
rose eagle
you know what the scariest thing in the world is?
typing your pw so fast and hitting enter and it not being in the pw box you expected and don't know if it went anywhere or nowhere
what sucks is all the sales are over
i paid $180 for this board, stupid other boards are fkin $240
prime jasper
how do you uncap the framerate in the menu
fps in the bfv menu is around like 40fps
ui and background video looks a little choppy
rose eagle
this audio thing might work out in my favor
trying to get a refund RMA when it states they only allow replacement, but now i can use that $50 to drop the Asus board down to what i paid for the ASRock
if they arpprove a refund..
regarding RGB yea my video card covers half of it so not like its critical but now i may need fans for christmas 😄
glad i didnt send in the MIR
they wouldnt be able to process anything through newegg if i had
@red ingot that board has a 4x2 phase VRM and not 8? =/
red ingot
Idk
prime jasper
yeah again 😮 after a ccleaner wipe, fresh graphics drivers, repaired game.. maby time to do os next -.-
Faulting application name: bfv.exe, version: 1.0.68.22923, time stamp: 0x5c05ac27
Faulting module name: nvwgf2umx.dll, version: 25.21.14.1722, time stamp: 0x5c001172
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000d79774
Faulting process ID: 0x1734
Faulting application start time: 0x01d48ef61730f861
Faulting application path: X:\Games\Origin\Battlefield V\bfv.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9db4450b8107f59a\nvwgf2umx.dll
Report ID: 2f8dc7f1-697e-4b07-8822-a256fddb275f
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
latent light
Oof
wet notch
that sounds like a driver issue though?
weird that it didnt solve itself by reinstalling them, but you might get more help there
topaz hearth
can only tell me about TCP and UDP in port forwarding ?
I see LAN and WAN ports. not sure what to enter in those slots. also Destination. no idea what thats meant to contain
Website gives a whole bunch of numbers. unsure if im meant to just add them all.
silent tulip
IMPEPESOSHUTTHEFUCKUP is trolling peaple and earraping and he admited it to
red ingot
Modmail sir
red ingot
🔨
steep gust
@prime jasper What drivers did you try?
Also make sure you have no extra drivers installed
latent light
I use DDU in safe mode to uninstall GPU drivers
It gets rid of everything that has any connection with the old drivers
prime jasper
Does anyone else get stuttery movement with their gun in Battlefield 1 and Battlfield V, when the game isn't locked to 60fps?
When I lock the game to 60fps, the problem goes away, but when it isn't my gun kinda jumps around a little bit when I move.
It doesn't seem to affect gameplay, so it isn't exactly unplayable, but it's annoying as fuck.
it is probably from big fps drops
i set my fps to 60 as well
it's more stable
60 dropping to 50 fps isnt as bad as 100 fps dropping to 60
dont set fps to monitor refresh rate if your pc cant handle high fps in this game
this game suffers pretty badly in performance for mid tier PCs
prime jasper
Noticed alot of threads form previous battlefield where people saying : Dice points to Nvidia, Nvidia points to game devs about issue...
Did standard fresh new drivers
latent light
yeah if they want to get rid of it, decrease prices
a lot of cards are still above their launch MSRP
prime jasper
that happens a lot
steep gust
Its up to the board partners what version the GPU gets used for
rose eagle
Huge coincidence #1 but rocket league seized up again and turned off the Bluetooth controller and it started using CPU again. Trying to get it to break again.. sometimes takes a damn hour
Surely Bluetooth couldn't cause it
rose eagle
its the fking bluetooth
mental hatch
^ The duality of men
rose eagle
maybe the z390-e has better BT 😉
opaque sapphire
Can anyone explain why I should use DX12? All I’ve seen it do is make games run worse
storm osprey
i mean, just try it yourself and come to your own conclusions?
i was using dx11 because i heard problems, was getting around 90-100 fps, went to dx 12 and now im usually around 140
i do get a random and sudden drop in fps on dx12 every once in a while though
lofty light
DX12 has a lot of possible benefits but it's on the Devs to code for it so it's normally poorly done
storm osprey
but its usually like 2 seconds long, and not that common
lofty light
DX12 on BFV seems to be good for newer hardware
lofty light
Dunno for the first one, it just lost all power and hasn't had it come back with all my exhaustive testing. Took it apart and everything was looking fine too so no blown caps or anything
Gonna try and do a manufacturer RMA yeah, but I think it's just a few months outside the RMA window now
latent light
did you overclock it?
forest token
who made it?
void cave
what command do i use in the console to see my fps
forest token
perfoverlay.drawfps 1
to have it everytime you load the game try this - https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/56035/fix-perfoverlay-drawfps-1-stay-on-screen-fix
haven't tried it for bfv
by coincidence in my last game today I had the guy/lady that posted that in my squad
he was accidentally hitting his microphone button and it was making a loud noise every so often
strong breach
In gameplay settings there's an option to turn on the killfeed
mystic drum
Consider setting to to nearby so you only see relevant info.
hardy lantern
thank
my settings getting restart every time i launch the game so
yeah if maybe someone can help me so
Hi. Today when i played BFV, i noticed a bug that making me pissed. Every time i press play, BFV will make me choose my brightless and audio. After that, it doing the intro, and it also restarting my settings. I hope someone will read it. If someone had this problem and solved it, please @ me. EA support didn't help, so dont do the "!support"(edited)
This is my problem
so if someone can help m e
mystic drum
You could try running Origin and BFV as admin, it may be failing to write the new settings.
hardy lantern
i did that
mystic drum
I got nothing then.
hardy lantern
hardy lantern
well if someone somehow dcan help
wary stratus
anybody here having bad fps drops too?
like my graphics card isnt running at its maximum and im just dropping frames
mystic drum
What CPU do you have?
mystic drum
Have you tried turning DX12 on or off?
You obviously shouldn't be having any problems.
And do you have the latest GPU drivers?
For me the latest NVIDIA drivers were a massive improvement.
latent light
Turn textures and shadows to medium, maybe low settings aren't pushing your GPU
mystic drum
He should be able to max the game no problem, unless he is running 4K
wary stratus
i have the latest drivers
like i would have no problem if it would run at a stable 80
rn just on navik i dropped to 55 when i saw like 3 people randomly
latent light
Low settings usually puts more load onto the CPU, and the graphics card will be running below max utilization
This is why all CPU benchmarks are tested in 720p low settings so they can compare raw CPU performance without the possibility of the graphics card interfering with the scores
Another problem regarding CPU and GPU is the RAM, Battlefield V hates single channel memory
sonic osprey
Sounds like some cpu/memory side issues than gpu
What temps on cpu? Is it running 90%+ load?
sonic osprey
as 5820k is bit older cpu, I would assume you have had your rig setup for a while now, might be good idea to open case, clean dust from fans, intakes, and cpu cooler finns
mystic drum
You know I reformatted my PC recently and it was a huge boost.
sonic osprey
yeah, that usually helps quite a bit, windows tends to accumulate junk in registry etc
also disabling any auto update services could help
left raven
what does f7 key do in windows 10?
i pressed it and voice says "always on" or "always off"
keen birch
happend to me as well i was running 110 fps on ultra on 2k and now i run 50 -55 fps 😦 im running water cooling my cpu is 33 under load and gpu 35 under load
i uninstalled all the nvidia driver and got the latest installed again and nothing happens
craggy dagger
anyone else?
dreamy tinsel
Anyone have suggestions for good headsets? 😄
steep gust
Go back a driver
rose eagle
Works fine for me on w10 1809 on a 2070
mystic drum
I have a suggestion, but I don't think you'll like it @dreamy tinsel
Oh, actually they're on sale right now.
But you need a sound card or a really good motherboard.
dreamy tinsel
awh, yeah then no :/
dreamy tinsel
Yeah but the shipping would be expensive for me too, so would be a lot in the end
mystic drum
Shipping was a lot for me cause I got them overnight from Japan lol
hardy lantern
Hey yall. just wanted to say that my bug is fixed. If yall have the problem where everytime u launch BFV it reset ur settings and doing intro, do that
Documents ---> BattlefieldV ----> Settings ----> and then rename from PROFSAVE_tmp to just PROFSAVE.
finna maybe pin, its a big bug that can happen.
keen birch
if anyone find the solution for the Fps drops please pm me 😦 i still cant figure this out i went back 2 drivers and nothings happens im on latest driver now and still running low fps
keen birch
yeah its on ok so i got back to work bfv5 on 120 fps on 2k 144hz ultra everything looks like my resolution scale was in 200 % instead of 100% thats fix my problem
rose eagle
red ingot
steep gust
1440p =/= 2k
sinful cobalt
just installed bfv and i cant get above 5 fps, my pc isnt the problem, it runs bf1 butter smoothly on ultra
pastel lily
quick question
does Newegg cover international warranty
if I'm ordering a graphics card for my friend who is in UK but the item ships from US
will he be able to claim warranty in UK ?
or should he send it all the way back to US and stuff
keen birch
Newegg covers 30 days but i think Nvidia Covers 3yrs and it's International yes
keen birch
uhmm u may have to read their warranty i know Nvidia it's international
steep gust
Most likely yes since the EU has some consumer protection laws
@red ingot 2560x1440p = 1.7x more pixels than 1080p
Not 2x
prime jasper
im pretty sure if you want to sell to another nation that you have to follow their consumer protection laws
steep gust
4k is called 4k because its 4x the pixel count of 1080p
prime jasper
in america they usually just do the least possible amount of warranty coverage
sonic osprey
actually the Xk denomination comes from the amout of horizontal pixels in the resolution given that it is 16:9 or 16:10, ie 1920x1080 = 2k, 2560x1440 = 2.5k, 3840x2160 = 4k, it is not a multiplier of how many pixels there are in standard full hd resolution
red ingot
sonic osprey
red ingot
Y u do dis
sonic osprey
i'm the most fun guy in parties
red ingot
Makes sense tho
Lol
I guess in perspective 1440p isn't that big of a difference between 1080p
sonic osprey
its like 1.8x the pixels
red ingot
I mean I have a 1440p now and it is amazing vs 1080p but yeah it's not like completely night and day imo
Like as in a significant upgrade but doesn't compare to 4k
Then and again I've never played on a 4k monitor (just seen 4k TVs on display and they look sexy, I'm still on a 1080p TV myself)
But 🤷 maybe that's just me. Also kinda subjective I guess. And I guess 4k is roughly 4x the pixels as 1080p? 4x a lot more than 1.8x
sonic osprey
well yeah its 2x(1920*1080)
sonic osprey
yes it is
steep gust
Go to google
sonic osprey
"its approximately 2000 pixels WIDE resolutions"
sonic osprey
"2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels"
can you read?
red ingot
Er
sonic osprey
english?
steep gust
Is 2048x1080p the same as 1920x1080p?
red ingot
...
sonic osprey
can you REAAAD ENGLISH
red ingot
Difference is negligible imo
steep gust
Yet 2048x1080p is not the same
steep gust
and a whole new aspect ratio
red ingot
Imo its close enough
But idk enough about the topic to really argue it lol
My impression from google was that you're contradicting yourself but idk 🤷
steep gust
I wish people would quit calling it.
4K is called 4K since it has 4x the pixels of 1080p (8294400 vs 2073600 pixels)
1440p is 3686400 pixels, or around 1.77x (77%) more than 1080p
The closest thing to true 2k would be 2720x1530, or if you prefer 16/9 aspect ratios it would be 2688x1512 or 2816x1584.
Then there’s the generic 2k definition which is 2048x1080.
I would go with 1440p and an IPS panel. Since it will look amazing and be possible to actually drive. Support shouldn’t be an issue if it’s a 16/9 aspect ratio since HUDs should scale properly nowadays
From PCPP when I had to explain this before
sonic osprey
4k is called 4k because it has approximately 4000 horizontal pixels
steep gust
4K refers to one of two high definition resolutions: 3840 x 2160 pixels or 4096 x 2160 pixels. 4K is four times the pixel resolution, or twice the line resolution (2160p), of 1080p (1920 x 1080 pixels)
4K is four times the pixel resolution, or twice the line resolution (2160p), of 1080p
sonic osprey
"4K resolution, also called 4K, refers to a horizontal display resolution of approximately 4,000 pixels."
steep gust
5% is a pretty big approximation in the PC world
red ingot
sonic osprey
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/691408-2k-does-not-mean-2560×1440/ just go read this with a nice cup of warm coffee
steep gust
How about
We call it how every other resolution is, and go by the vertical pixels
720p was fine, 1080p was fine, but when 4k came out it was a big deal to call it 4k instead of 2160p, then 1440p came around and has terms thrown around
Same thing with the HD, UHD, QHD, etc that are just shitty marketing schemes
red ingot
oh i can 100% agree with the shitty marketing schemes
in fact it also sucks that low end manufacturers can have 4k with a shitty panel and have it look like garbage. most people don't know that not all 4k tvs are equal (shitty panel vs good panel)
or well, all tv's in general
or screens for that matters
steep gust
I'll take a IPS 1440p panel with good colors over a TN 4k monitor that never had any form of calibration
steep gust
TVs are terrible for marketing
red ingot
and that's why i spent the extra $100 on a 1440p ips monitor vs the TN counterpart
it looks soooo nice
red ingot
what is backlight bleed anyways?
i always hear people complaining about it
but i never really understood
red ingot
yeah
so like light "bleeding in" at the edges
although ive never really experienced that
like ever
idk maybe the pics are all just extreme examples
and apparently it's only a thing with ips monitors?
steep gust
It generally happens with dark pictures, same with the IPS glow
You won't notice it unless its really bad in everyday use
red ingot
hm
steep gust
Backlight bleed is an issue with using backlights
I hope we see more OLED monitors soon
austere escarp
Is anyone running battlefield V over a virtual machine ? (Cloud gaming) - I’ve come up against some temporary origin bans as it sees the hardware changes when I’m allocated a different set of hardware
austere escarp
Not fun being locked out for 24 hours 😃
red ingot
i know that EA did put in a hardware ban if you change your hardware too much in 24h
bench markers were complaining about that
austere escarp
Well @red ingot I’ve only got a 6 year old laptop so use Shadow to game online
Can’t afford the upkeep of a decent gaming rig these days
It’s good though as I can play battlefieldV at full settings and encounter no issues
red ingot
huh
just googled it - it looks cool
yeah but all ik is EA does have a hardware ban and i dont think there's any way to circumvent it unfortunately
austere escarp
I spoke with shadow about it and they are actively working with Origin to find a fix - just wondered if anyone had a workaround in the mean time
red ingot
ah i see
um as for shadow - how much does it cost?
i wouldn't really use it I don't think, but im curious (can't find pricing anywhere on their website)
red ingot
wow
latent light
such a cool card
red ingot
either you live in a freezer or your card is just super cool
latent light
21C ambient temperature
austere escarp
It’s £24.95 a month - not sure what the pricing is in dollars or Euros - but I have a referral code that gives money off the first month
latent light
RX 580 only consumes 150 watts at 100% load using FurMark stress test lol
austere escarp
Water cooled or air cooled @latent light
latent light
got these games with it lol
could of chosen The Division 2 but I got enough multiplayer games
resident evil 2 remake is going to be fun
steep gust
I had my ROG Strix 1080 at like 30C once idle without fans
But that was when it was left on overnight to download stuff
steep gust
That is with a like 250w TDP
prime jasper
@latent light what program was that
prime jasper
The one where you could see your hardware and temp
red ingot
ah yes, thank you for the monthly reminder to use ccleaner
prime jasper
@red ingot shadow is $34 a month
red ingot
wow
prime jasper
I wonder what kind of ping you get with it
red ingot
i mean, pretty expensive
but makes sense considering you're getting high end hardware
seriously curious tho about what kind of ping you get, yeah
and also input lag
i feel like there's gotta be a lot of input lag
prime jasper
$408 a year when you could build a budget gaming pc for like $600 
prime jasper
I built mine 2 years ago for like $900 and I can play bfv at 60fps on medium
red ingot
hm
prime jasper
Bf1 I played on high at 60fps
prime jasper
shrug
red ingot
they dont really list their full specs
or benchmarks etc
im also super concerned about input lag
seems like a great idea though for those on a super budget
or if u wanna game on the go (i.e. laptop)
prime jasper
I guess the service is probably tailored towards people who are incapable of building a computer and have no friends to help build
red ingot
(gaming laptops will never compare to desktops)
and lol that too
although tbh just do some google-fu and watch some youtube vids
building a pc isn't as bad as u think (i remember i actually got my first pc as a prebuild cause i was too scared to do it myself)
then after changing out some parts myself i realized it actually wasn't so bad
latent light
some laptops compare to high end desktops
ever see the laptop with two gtx 1080 Tis?
red ingot
jesus
okay
well
gotta be at least 2x the price of desktop equivalent
they dont even have a price listed for it
and the link in description is broken
latent light
they stopped making them too
it was around $3000
desktop equivalent would be about $2000
red ingot
jesus
yeah i figure probably cause no one wanted to pay 3k
and that thing probably weighs like 20lbs
keen birch
heeeeel no
keen birch
i rather have a desktop
latent light
so 1.5TB of NVMe storage lol
steep gust
^
Raid 0 is bad and not worth the risk
Also NVMe is rarely used in real world applications, so raid 0 NVMe means nothing
red ingot
well like
nvme is already stupidly fast no?
so why the heck would you then put it in RAID 0?
seems a bit redundant
steep gust
NVMe is only really faster than SATA 3 in large file transfers
rose eagle
My buddy loads quite a bit faster than me on 970evo vs my 850
rose eagle
But after that ya of course it's useless
red ingot
lol
rose eagle
Whole level is in vram
red ingot
yeah which makes sense
but initial load should be insanely fast
and well, obviously booting up windows :p
rose eagle
You get dx12 working yet
red ingot
apparently a 970 boots faster than u can turn on your monitor
and yessir
i thought i sent u some screencaps?
rose eagle
Ffr 1 frame?
rose eagle
Try 1 frame
red ingot
ok
rose eagle
Is it off?
rose eagle
Your GPU might handle more frames
If you don't get a lot more fps than me that makes zero sense.
If you set post low and lighting low I'd expect 144 solid and min fps like 120
red ingot
that's my dx12
115 avg 90 1% 69 .1%
mind u lighting on ultra :3
but post low
that's dx11
126 avg 87 1% 66 .1%
but the spread is much higher
as in frametimes less consistent in dx11
ill try setting ffr at 1
rose eagle
I find Hamada the most consistent
steep gust
booting up windows is a lot of small files
So NVMe doesn't change it much
Also 8s vs 10s
You boot once a day 
I mean my PC already boots faster than my monitor on a 850 evo
and if I go remove my overclocks / reduce the BIOS screen time thing then its even faster (it does some weird memory boot thing or something stupid)
molten condor
Does anyone here run battlefield v at 1440p Ultra with a gtx 1070? If so, how does it run?
prime jasper
I doubt you'll be getting constant 100+ fps on that
molten condor
if i can get 60, i'll be fine
prime jasper
1080p here with a 1070ti and 2700x and barely keeping 100fps constant
molten condor
im looking at new monitors and im not sure if my 1070 can run battlefield v at 1440p ultra
will i have to go on high?
prime jasper
You should be fine, just depends on the fps dips really
The dips are insane compared to other games
molten condor
aight, thanks
molten condor
6700k overclocked to 4.6 ghz
red ingot
np
sick oak
@here so I've been sitting at a 100% downloaded update on BF5 for like 10 minutes. says 0% remaining, 0 kbs downloading, but not that it's installing. ive logged out, ive paused/restarted...nothing is finishing this off. help?
red ingot
Wait it out
sick oak
what am i waiting on? it seems like it's hung up on nothing.
red ingot
Just takes a while sometimes
Logging out pausing restarting etc. Will just restart the process
It's probably unpacking all the files
sick oak
alright fair enough. thanks man. appreciate it
red ingot
Np
latent light
AMD isn't going to implement Ray-Tracing in their GPUs until it is mainstream in games and when they can put it on low-end cards
the first Navi cards will come out Q2 2019
red ingot
Makes sense
latent light
this shows what single channel vs dual channel 8GB ram does
Battlefield V 70+ fps more with dual channel lol
latent light
yep lol
anyone who buys/builds a PC with only 1 stick of ram, they are missing out a ton of performance
molten coral
mental hatch
But rgb 
atomic atlas
prime jasper
wait till you see the results of higher frequency ram grim
steep gust
quad channel and four RAM sticks are different
You can run 4 sticks in dual channel
you can't run quad channel with 2 sticks
tough crow
So, new to Battlefield.. Would probably like it a lot more if I didn't get stuck in endless loading screens between game maps.. 😦
tough crow
My non-tech self pretty much has resorted to ending b5 in task manager and then joining a new game each time
latent light
only enthusiast level motherboards support quad channel memory
AM4 boards like A320, B350, B450, X370, X470 only support dual channel
Intel boards like H310, B360, H370, Z370, Z390 only support dual channel
fiery oracle
lofty light
Two in one; barbecue and computer case 👌
wild bridge
any fix for latency out there , when i wanna play with people from na i have 200 ping , but when i play on eu host its 20 anyway i can fix it so i can play with people from na
last copper
r/AyyMD is leaking
lofty light
They shouldn't have bought cheap sealant then
latent light
queen field
Exactly
I even had to buy my own thermal goo
Today's message is bought to you free by CoolLaboratory™
lofty light
This message was sponsored by the thermal paste gang
prime jasper
Toothpaste gang when
craggy dagger
how can i fix weird textures?
raw turtle
Wdym with weird textures
craggy dagger
i got some like blurred and pixelated textures lately
is that because of the new update? because updating the drivers didnt work
red ingot
Try repair install
lofty light
Is that like the Minecraft trees on twisted steel? Because that's not ever been fixed
desert bear
Guys... have you had problems with the audio after updating Windows 10?
red ingot
nope
desert bear
Uhm. :c
rose eagle
My friend always used to have problems every win 10 update lol
Had to dick with drivers a ton
You try uninstalling from device manager and clearing the related software and reinstalling?
desert bear
Yes, uninstall by the device manager, but I see other microsoft drivers, transmission, etc. I had never seen that.
If I raise the whole volume, it still sounds very low.
raw turtle
Buy new pc 😉
raw turtle
Install windows xp
desert bear
When I connect the headset and start the game, it sounds low.
@raw turtle Windows XP is for girls, I prefer 98 with floppy.
desert bear
Beautiful times
sonic osprey
times when there was no cutscenes in games
raw turtle
Lol i looked on amazon: 10 floppy disks with 1.44 MB capacity 12,99€ haha
240 gb kingston nvme ssd: 43.90 €
desert bear
Shut up and take my money ! (Meme)
sonic osprey
well, there are still machines that run things that people depend on and they do need floppy disks
dont think there are many manufacturing them anymore
sonic osprey
5.25 floppies or the "hard" floppies
desert bear
Installing windows with diskettes was ... fun.
raw turtle
Luckily i was born 2000 and didnt have such troubles
desert bear
You lost the best of the truth.
red ingot
Idk which ones
desert bear
Jajaja.
sonic osprey
most fun times was loading a game on C64 with the casette player, took like 20minutes to load the game if the player worked ok
desert bear
@red ingot I from 88.
red ingot
O.o
sonic osprey
console games were on ROMs, so kinda like "mini ssd"
raw turtle
Then i got a gameboy and then nintendo ds , then wii and no im on pc
Pokemon on ds was great
wary stratus
ok cleaned some shit
my cpu is at around 48-50°C
and im sitting at around 120fps on hamada
went up to 60°C but its stable now
storm osprey
anyone mess with intel optane?
dapper gorge
Hello. Need some help here. I'll either buy a graphics card or a processor. Right now I have: GTX 1060 6GB, i5-6400, 16GB RAM. I'm around 50-70 fps with the lowest settings and I want to get up to 120 - 140 fps. What should I upgrade?
storm osprey
4c4t cpu is definitely tough on bfv
1060 6gb is solid, but probably the lowest recommended gpu for bfv and the results you want
native acorn
Updating my i5 6600k to i7 x700 because bfV is so CPU heavy
red ingot
I upgraded my i7 4770k to an i7 9700k and saw a solid ~40fps boost
Also helped a lot with the stutter (no more stutter)
I'd recommend a CPU upgrade tbh if you're on an i5 for bfv
storm osprey
@native acorn yea id think that cpu upgrade would be the most beneficial, which is sad since its a solid build all around
but for bfv the cpu probably struggles the most
raw turtle
Ive got ryzen 2700x and a 1060 and can play on high - ultra 60 fps
I think 1060 isnt the problem, its ur cpu
storm osprey
man im stoked for amds new shit
if it is even close to the "leaks" its gonna be killer
prime jasper
im an amd fanboy and i still think its a bit too far fetched
storm osprey
im sure it is, 2070 performance for HALF the price?
storm osprey
the only way i can see that happening is that its a standard gpu, no ray tracing tech or anything
thats what makes it reasonable
red ingot
I think someone yesterday said they dont have plans for ray tracing yet
Not until its viable on low end cards and mainstream
Which actually is a smart decision
storm osprey
its smart, theres hardly anything positive with ray tracing atm
red ingot
Exactly
And literally only bfv has it rn afaik
So like poor support and huge performance hit
No point in jumping on the bandwagon
storm osprey
so do a standard upgrade, mark prices down, and literally 95% of people have more of a logical reason to get an amd card vs rtx
plush smelt
@dapper gorge I had the same cpu as you. i upgrade to i7 8700 and now i have 80~100 fps with a 1060 6gb
and no more stuttering
if you want a solid 140 fps maybe you can get a 6core + 1070ti
ps.: i'm on 1080p
pallid roost
How many logical cores does BF5 utilize?
pallid roost
so atleast 8 damn
rose eagle
it will freaking devour anything that exists on the market right now
pallid roost
Ryzen TR 2990WX?
rose eagle
the fact people are not seeing high CPU on a 2700x makes no sense, it's like it's broken
a 2700x should see 100% if it was being correctly utilized
pallid roost
thats some nice optimization
rose eagle
to use half a cpu and get less frames? 😄
2700x def streams well, king of that.. just doesnt perform on straight gaming as well as 8700k/9700k
the 3700k should potentially help but we'll see
pallid roost
amd isnt really that good for gaming
rose eagle
it will have the same boost clock as the 9700k but will have 12c
so even if it's slower per core maybe we'll see better perf
storm osprey
i hope amd zen 2 is good for gaming
rose eagle
i mean ill regret my upgrade but for the sake of the future of the PC component race and price fixing... yes
mainly concerned about GPU though
shit needs to be $500 for the top top top tier
$300 for the rest of us
storm osprey
so stoked for this next amd line up
pallid roost
same
rose eagle
if AMD released good GPUs it would bring more people to better monitors also
pallid roost
i may sell my 8100 to get the 3200
rose eagle
since gsync so expensive
storm osprey
yea
im stuck with nvidia ecosystem
and atm thats fine
but i hope they release more standard gpus next time
i dont care about ray tracing
sonic osprey
@rose eagle seems kinda legit that you have 90% cpu with 9700k, i have about 50% with 9900k, so would say 8cores is the sweet spot to get 144+ fps
limpid glade
I only get 60 fps with a 1080 Ti and a 6800K lol
spiral harbor
have you guys heard of an issue where when you launch bf5 the game flashes as if Alt+Tab is being pressed? I'm running latest gpu drivers for my gpu, and its only with this game. I've tried to downgrade and then update to current drivers as well.
limpid glade
Make sure cables are in properly?
pallid roost
the framerate is locked to your refreshrate
rose eagle
i think the CPU usage in windows is very misleading with anything that has HT
your 9900k should still be seeing 90% usage at 144fps
limpid glade
I sometimes get 70 fps
spiral harbor
Yeah, I've unplugged and replugged in the diplayport cable. Even used a different port on my GPU
sonic osprey
nah, I use afterburner
rose eagle
i can guarantee BF is eating almost all your 9900k
sonic osprey
50-60% is max cpu usage I get, on everything low
rose eagle
stock clock?
sonic osprey
yeah, its just that there might be more threads than 8, and you is first in first out, when with threads they can do round-robin cpu time cycling
rose eagle
i mean that's almost +1 entire core
so that makes sense
arguing HT isnt going to get very far for BFV perf though 😉
it is a huge problem for CPUs without enough physical cores
sonic osprey
it all boils down how much the threads needs to be synced when executing
rose eagle
like 4c4t i5 vs 4c8t is a massive min fps problem
avg isnt vastly changed but the min suffers, but on my 9700k it pretty much cooks everything no problem for now
pallid roost
it even cooks itself
spiral harbor
i swapped displayports again and it works now? this is how i fixed it last time, but now its acting fine i suppose. lol
rose eagle
lol 9700k isnt bad, i see 65c on load
with a $100 best in class aio 😄
no idea what a 212 evo would do for it
sonic osprey
@rose eagle you wanna check from stream my usages, just testing settings https://www.twitch.tv/naekhrah_
rose eagle
i dont doubt what it says, honestly i havent checked afterburner yet
just windows
afterburner always reported < 100% for me on my 3770k
but it was 100% cooking all cores
so im not sure what afterburner pulls from
red ingot
Hey @limpid glade I remember from before u said you only had one stick of RAM. some guy linked a video yesterday showing up to 70fps increase for dual channel ram vs single channel. Might just be worth to try getting a set of 2x8gb instead of the one 16gb you got rn. I'll try and find the video
limpid glade
Wow, okay, thank you!
rose eagle
yea i had to really read up on my mobo before slotting ram
1/3 wasnt the designated slots for dual
rose eagle
its never slots next to each other.. i wonder how many people have 2 sticks and arent even in DC 😄
red ingot
I always read my mobo manual first
rose eagle
i did!
red ingot
To double check which slots
rose eagle
can never pass up reading up on that
red ingot
That and also so I don't stick all the headers in the wrong spot..
rose eagle
lol took me so long to find the power button
sonic osprey
Oh and the loads in stream bit higher coz using cpu to encode
rose eagle
the manual is size 4 font i swear
red ingot
Wow rip u
sonic osprey
About70% loads
red ingot
@limpid glade u see the video I linked?
sonic osprey
Top left corner
rose eagle
maybe it doesnt show in a stream?
that'd be interesting
yea its not there 😉
overlay for your eyes only
sonic osprey
Wth
sonic osprey
True it must be overlay window so should add it
rose eagle
depends if you're capturing the screen or just the game
sonic osprey
the game only
limpid glade
Yeah, thanks a lot, @red ingot ! I'll update you if anything improves.
red ingot
Np
rose eagle
and if i get 90% or so on 8c, 1 more core really would off a lot more load
red ingot
Good luck
wary stratus
so what shouldi upgrade to from an i7-5820K?
rose eagle
$?
wait that's 6c12t why would you upgrade it
oh ouch 3.6 boost
wow what a weird cpu
does it OC?
honestly theres nothing worthwhile out from 3rd to 7th gen
3770k == 7700k
for flat fps improvements
its pretty much a new PC at that point
rose eagle
im gonna sell my whole rig for $2000 and stop gaming
red ingot
Gl with that
I'll see u in a week
When you're crying to the guy u sold it to to please sell it back
rose eagle
oh no id sell it as a premium, current MSRP just all put together
rose eagle
iBuyPanda
rose eagle
carefully closes PoE
red ingot
Yes
rose eagle
always
red ingot
Yeah
wary stratus
but like 8 years old
red ingot
Yes
rose eagle
whats the problem?
rose eagle
i replaced my 6y just for fks sake of it
red ingot
550w erring on low side anyways
rose eagle
it may not fix anything though, i dont know what the issue is
wary stratus
and when im at it i can just replace it
red ingot
What's your setup
rose eagle
yea then you can get a modular PSU and in your new case it will have proper cable management
red ingot
You're assuming he doesn't already have modular
wary stratus
idk some problems got fixed by cleaning mc computer
red ingot
🤔
wary stratus
i7-5820k
rose eagle
wow i guess they did come about 8y ago
wary stratus
gtx1070
red ingot
I keep forgetting that I have corsair link for my psu
rose eagle
out of the ordinary
red ingot
I could literally see my power draw
But I never check
But I feel like yeah bfv gonna be pulling a lot on that setup
wary stratus
no no fancy lights no nothing
red ingot
So 550w barely enough
wary stratus
dont have any bonus cooling
rose eagle
i mean.. high end PCs will get close to 500w
red ingot
Plus u know shit just starts dying after 8 years
wary stratus
any good brand to go with?
rose eagle
EVGA
red ingot
Ah yea
storm osprey
evga all day
red ingot
I felt like I was missing one
rose eagle
0 deals goin on right now, RIP
latent light
if your system pulls 400 watts under load, get a 600w psu
red ingot
Thermaltake has an rgb one I believe
storm osprey
ewww thermaltake
latent light
rgb psu is like $150+
red ingot
But muh rgb
latent light
red ingot
And yeah that one looks okay
I think
Although platinum psu ftw
Or titanium if u really wanna be ballsy
rose eagle
buys RGB psu... is under shroud
storm osprey
gold semi modular
rose eagle
palladium modular!
red ingot
Gold ew
Semi modular ew
wary stratus
but should i go with a 750?
storm osprey
you dont need full unless you are doing custom sleeves
latent light
750W gold
rose eagle
mine is aluminum
storm osprey
fulk modular all the way
red ingot
Fu
storm osprey
fulk you too
latent light
no modular is best for higher csgo fps
red ingot
latent light
storm osprey
latent light
i overclocked my 650w bronze to a 850w gold
red ingot
🤔
storm osprey
with red rgb
storm osprey
green is for economy performance
red ingot
Yeah
Economy = environmental
PC gets the power it needs with minimal efficiency loss
latent light
from what I know, there is a small difference between titanium and platinum
in psu rating
storm osprey
there small changes from bronze to just about anything else
storm osprey
youd think there would be a bigger difference
bronze 82% efficiency at 100% load, platinum is 89%
red ingot
Shhhhhhh
I thought platinum was like 92
Or 91
90 something
Wait no
That's titanium
Nvm
Makes sense
I need titanium to break into the 90s
storm osprey
lol
red ingot
7% adds up
storm osprey
"I DONT NEED IT"
storm osprey
yea
red ingot
You fill unfulfilled, like theres an empty void in your life
One that only a titanium psu can fill
storm osprey
i just go for a good middle ground
bronze is good enough, so i went with gold
not titanium...
red ingot
Only problem is once that hole is filled another one opens up
Next thing u know it's a new ssd
Then ram
Then gpu
Etc.
Endless vicious cycle
sigh
storm osprey
i think im good for a while, at least until i do cpu/ram/mb
rose eagle
luckily the pocket kills all those dreams
storm osprey
amd, release your next shit
latent light
earlier they release, the more problems there will be
i actually want them to wait a few months past their expected launch to optimize and maybe wait for motherboard manufacturers to release good BIOS updates
storm osprey
yea, id prefer to wait as well, its just i have a hankering to upgrade and amd is holding me back
latent light
i hope no one is going to build a pc by then because they might regret doing it now in the future lol
imagine buying a i7-9700K for $400 only to find out Ryzen 5 3600X beats it for almost half the price
latent light
red ingot
red ingot
latent light
sonic osprey
latent light
Ryzen 9 3800X with 16 cores for $449
16 cores, even though gamers will still buy it
who even needs more than 8 cores
well what gamer needs more than 8
last copper
and rich kids
storm osprey
well, they dont NEED it
last copper
BuT yOu GoTtA gEt MaX fRaMeS oN fOrTnItE
legitimately can't believe the 3rd gen ryzens are that cheap
brazen burrow
16 cores can be very useful for workstation loads
storm osprey
he said gamer
last copper
I got the R5 2600 for 260 aud, and the base model R3 3300 is going to be $123 less for basically the same
brazen burrow
also for many people getting a steaming box isn't too much of an investment especially considering they plan on using it to make money back
last copper
I'm definitely gonna sell my 2600 for a 3600
last copper
can we get 50 likes
storm osprey
thats what came up when i searched for like
red ingot
Why is it gonna be so long nyphon
And does streaming really hit your fps that much
Just use shadow play then and record videos the old fashion way
:D
brazen burrow
it does for some people
if you have a 10XX GPU and use nvenc u should be good tho
I can output 1080p60fps and 1440p60fps (native) on my 1070 with negligible fps drop for a few games
red ingot
Ic