technology

[prime jasper]

this isnt the 1990s anymore

[steep gust]

uh no

[prime jasper]

malware isnt destructive

they spy on you

malware is to be as unnoticeable as possible

[steep gust]

Because I know what is being downloaded and go through services, etc enough for benchmarks

I'd notice if something was running

[prime jasper]

it doesnt require you to download

[vernal spire]

yeah sure you would

[prime jasper]

you are so ignorant

go download a good antivirus and scan lol

[steep gust]

uh no its called being smart

Run uBlock Origin and use some basic logic with websites

If you are getting malware then you are visiting the wrong shit

[vernal spire]

malware today can run and mine resources from your computer without being detected, no detection in task manager, resource usage minimal along with less tracing and stealth mode

[prime jasper]

yeah, malware is really amazing today

[vernal spire]

and no i dont give a fuck about your browser extensions

blah blah blah i dont need an antivirus

[prime jasper]

even fucking US diplomats and workers get infected and they do things by protocol set by experts

malware is sophisticated

[steep gust]

So is fear mongering

[prime jasper]

you probably have monero miners running right now on your pc and you cant notice lol

[vernal spire]

do you realise how easy large networks get infected today?

[steep gust]

Uh yeah large networks mean plenty of different ways to infect?

[vernal spire]

with your IP, which can be traced over games and services someone can access your computer

a virus can access it

[steep gust]

One idiot clicking on an email and the best anti virus is worthless

[vernal spire]

no problem

worthless?

only in your mind

you use windows defender

[prime jasper]

people have infected legit programs that deliver programs and updates. it's bound to happen to steam, origin, uplay, or battle.net one day.

people infected linux isos before

you never know when a legit place gets compromised till it is too late

ccleaner got infected one time during an update

people updated and got infected

you think youre some wizard genius

[steep gust]

Yep its called

Don't go to websites that would get you infected

DAMN GENIUS

[prime jasper]

it's not just websites

[vernal spire]

wow you just never fucking learn

[prime jasper]

it's also autoupdates

[vernal spire]

do you?

[prime jasper]

you're gonna get pwned so bad one day

[steep gust]

I have got fear mongering and no sources

[vernal spire]

websites arent the only source of viruses

do you fucking read

[prime jasper]

he lives in the 1990s

he doesnt understand 2018

[steep gust]

You have to download something and the biggest source of downloads is websites

[vernal spire]

no you dont

[latent light]

[vernal spire]

a virus can access in many ways

it can spread over the network

[prime jasper]

the biggest source of your downloads now is autoupdates from your TRUSTED applications

lol

[vernal spire]

you dont need to download it

[steep gust]

Oh and I might as well get rid of any CPU with hyper threading because of PortSmash

and then any modern CPU because of meltdown

and then any other CPU because of spectre

[vernal spire]

well im fucking done with you

[prime jasper]

yeah, so use a fucking antivirus lol

[steep gust]

Software fixes are only so good

[vernal spire]

i dont know whats your way of thinking

[prime jasper]

it's this new age of techies that think they are too smart for hackers that are 100x times smarter than them @vernal spire

it's the /g/ generation

[steep gust]

I don't know why you think fear mongering with no sources makes me listen to you

[vernal spire]

fear mongering

[steep gust]

Yeah you are going "You have to get an antivirus or you will get infected"

Its not factual

[vernal spire]

what programming languages do you know?

[prime jasper]

we're informing you malware isnt just from downloading and installing from a fucking browser

[latent light]

AMD is affected by Spectre and can only be exploited if someone has physical access to the PC. AMD isn't affected by meltdown in any ways unlike Intel.

[steep gust]

Ad hominem @vernal spire

[prime jasper]

you can get infected with AV software, but at least AV software will detect it later on when the vulnerability is discovered.

[steep gust]

PortSmash isn't exclusive to Intel

While its proven to work on Intel CPUs, AMD hasn't been ruled out and are at risk

[prime jasper]

it's your PC tho. you can be that guy that bangs easy chicks with no condoms too

[vernal spire]

@steep gust i see you are fucking level 100 programmer

guys, this guy is serious

he knows his shit

dont attack him

im sure he could fuck all of us up

[steep gust]

Yeah like asking for a fucking source

Its not that hard

[prime jasper]

yeah. it's like talking to a gay man from the 1980s that isnt aware of the aids pandemic and is having a lot of casual hookups

[latent light]

Unfortunately, in regards to AMD processors, it is also vulnerable, like Intel, to Spectra 2. It's only Ryzen 2 that they've started to make a true hardware fix to it.

[steep gust]

Plenty of inherent issues with modern CPUs are bound to be found

The big thing is that Intel and AMD most likely know about a large portion of them and ignore it

[vernal spire]

we have hackerman here wasting my fucking time thinking he is too smart for a antivirus, im really done with all this. Dont ever come to #technology again if you need help, because you are stopping us from fucking helping you

[steep gust]

Give me a sourcee

Please

[vernal spire]

source to fucking what?

[steep gust]

That I need an antivirus and not just Defender? That malware can be downloaded just by having a computer connected to a network? Etc

All the shit you claimed

[vernal spire]

im not wasting my time here anymore, get this conversation out of #technology if you are too smart for a antivirus

[latent light]

I just use Malwarebytes

[prime jasper]

just let him get pwned

guy apparently works all day monitoring his PC like he works for a giant tech company

[vernal spire]

saying you use defender and that you are too smart for a virus shows me enough about your experience with PCs. Very nice indeed

[steep gust]

Pretty much

I do a lot of benchmarking and so every percent of performance is nice

Windows Defenders was shit in past Windows

Now its good enough

[prime jasper]

windows defender is shit now

[steep gust]

While not the best, its generally enough

[vernal spire]

while not the best?

windows defender sucks ass

[steep gust]

The best antivirus is never connecting to a network

Can't get infected then

[prime jasper]

i got infected for the first time in fucking years when i installed windows 10 and i visit major big websites

Works if you know what you press on the internett

and i use all the extensions and crap

installed a real antivirus and i have no issues

[vernal spire]

if your computer slows down because of a simple antivirus that sometimes is even free, i get it man. windows defender fits you ok

[steep gust]

That real antivirus also does a good job at slowing down your computer

[vernal spire]

i mean your benchmarks are important at all

[prime jasper]

slow down to what? .01% of performance hit? lol

i literally notice no difference in performance

i'd like to see even a 1% performance hit in your benchmarks

[steep gust]

Easy enough

Defender already gets disabled for benchmarks

[vernal spire]

if you seriously think that a antivirus slows down your PC, you are using a bootleg version of fucking norton from pirate bay

[prime jasper]

or your PC was made in 2003 and youre using windows xp with 2GB of DDR2 RAM

[vernal spire]

like, have you seen the system requirements for a modern antivirus?

is your computer under the minimum requirements or what?

[prime jasper]

lol

[steep gust]

like, have you seen the lack of malware I'm downloaded without an antivirus?

[prime jasper]

you dont know you have malware

cause you have no protection

lol

[steep gust]

Alright asshat, what antivirus do you want me to download to prove to you that I'm not infected

[prime jasper]

do you think AV software still works by just matching stuff up from a database too?

download bitdefender

[vernal spire]

no dont download anything

[prime jasper]

yeah, dont download it

[vernal spire]

you are too smart for it

[prime jasper]

we want you to stay infected

[vernal spire]

we all know that

just go on, continue

you are too smart

[astral merlin]

Can we not

Stop it

There is no need to escalate further

[prime jasper]

no problem wilhelm

i was bored anyhow

[vernal spire]

good thing you decided to respond, might as well mute me again because im really not wasting too much of my time here

[steep gust]

If you want muted then why don't you just leave

[vernal spire]

yeah maybe ban me, that helps. Im starting to realise why this server isnt important at all

and why people left

[prime jasper]

just loaded up bitdefender. guess what event happen yesterday

blocked phising attempt and it was from a legit major website

[astral merlin]

No one is at fault first but the conversation was going in endless cycle and nothing improved so I intervened. And there is no need to start insulting each other.

[green nebula]

This is why we can't have nice things

[icy totem]

ok

[prime jasper]

what is your icon @green nebula

is that a panda

[green nebula]

and yeah, my god Bit Defender really is over protective, i love it

[icy totem]

Americans Santa Meme with a beard? Also. Any Python Users here?

[green nebula]

Uhh its the WOAH FACE, with a shitty beard, a glass of beer, American Flag overlay and a christmas hat

Or as i call it, WoahFreedomHat

[icy totem]

WoahFestiveFreedomHats

[vernal spire]

A lot of people already showed me why i should leave this. Why Not just Ban me when im asking for it, either way im going from the server and im gonna be happy

[prime jasper]

just calm down blek. its all good

live and let live

[green nebula]

I mean Blek has a point, mostly if you ignore the bullshit that followed.
An Anti Virus really won't affect performance that much while running in the background, unless a system scan starts or MAYBE if it gets triggered by something.

Unless its a old as fuck pc/laptop

[vernal spire]

i think this is just the time i that i make the decision, am i going to continue wasting my time on here or am i going to leave this finally and just stop with all this, im never really active on here, this has no point

yeah you know what, thats it. ive had enough

goodbye everyone

[green nebula]

I mean, don't let others get you down, but if you truly feel leaving is the best decision, i'm not going to stop you.

Goodbye Blek

[prime jasper]

https://i.imgur.com/dTxMFQi.png dice/ea really fucked the BFV

@prime jasper i think people already starting complain and spread this over the every possibvle fb group lookin for solution. some refuses to agree the issue is global and only for old hw relation but now i gotta overthink

[green nebula]

Most of the time, i never see people state what resolution they are running as well as resolution scale.

[prime jasper]

it's global overall for all the intel/nvidia system usrs

i think theyre around 1080p-1440p 144hz

it doesnt matter on the reso tbh

let me find ya a proof

[green nebula]

Like a i7 6700k and a 1070 OC runs it 90 FPS uncapped at 140% resolution at 1080p

As soon as i scale up the resolution scale to 145% it dies

But granted, game could still use a lot more optimization.

Its not your hardware, its the game.

(Unless by chance, it actually is your hardware)

[prime jasper]

some guy scaled up 1080p to 2k

and he still had low gpu usage

[green nebula]

Not that scaling, the in-game resolution scale

[prime jasper]

https://imgur.com/a/rfShA5W

read comments

this guy with i7 6700 and 1070 suffers from the same crap

i cant find a fix for myself. so removed the game and origin from my pc.

[green nebula]

That's a bit extreme

[prime jasper]

yep

and people called me out fool on fb-requested ban on group as i started playing victim etc

but they refuse to agree or accept other people's complaints about perf leak

they simply state" you possible installed os wrong and set up bios so the game runs like shit" but during convos with ppl having these issues-you realise thats the only tittles they face such problems

[green nebula]

That's just plain bullshit

[prime jasper]

well they refuse to believe or agree theres problems with game

[green nebula]

Thank god i deleted Facebook ages ago

[prime jasper]

not hardware

wwell and this spreads in "PCMR" GROUP

they think its only shit for oldest hw

but as more i inspect groups i find out BFV is unoptimized pile of crap for everything. no offence but it is.

oof

@prime jasper well the fix you shown me-doesnt work

i asked a friend with 1070 and i5 2400 tr it-didnt work

[red ingot]

what's happenin here

[prime jasper]

between my 4th gen i5 and 2400 is about 5to 15% lower perf. so she shoulda be fine, but not. same crap.

[red ingot]

hm

[prime jasper]

@red ingot ehh some ranty shits about unoptimisations of latest EA/Dice BF games.

[red ingot]

lol

i can agree with u on that

i just upgraded my 4770k to a 9700k just to run bfv

😦

rip $$

[prime jasper]

i7 4790k to 8700k may be max of 20% perf upgrade but in reality in terms of gaming perf its about 50%

[red ingot]

was a well needed upgrade anyways

but still makes me sad

and yeah

[prime jasper]

4790k to 7700k/8600k thats about 3to 15%

[red ingot]

it just reduced my stutter a lot really

before my gpu was throttled to roughly 50% usage

now it goes right to 100%

so means im no longer cpu bottlenecked

which makes me glad

[prime jasper]

but as more i research this problem i rea,ise i dont want to play BF series anymore

[red ingot]

😄

yeah no i feel u

[prime jasper]

i have problems with GTAV also when cops pursuits-high cpu usagespikes and unrendered textures

but thats due to GTAV vram leaks. other games justrunnin fine, BF4/3 bc2 fine

overwatch bloody well-stable 100fps with like zero dips obs on at 1080p 100% scaling in epic settings.

well anyways, goodnigte 😄

[sonic osprey]

phew, comp upgrade about done, sheesh fitting the water loop into my case was more difficult than expected and the windows reset to install drivers was not fun either :D

[prime jasper]

overclock to 6GHz

[rose eagle]

@red ingot Hamada dx12 FFR set to 1 in console plz kthx

Post an lighting low

120fps 1% time or bust

[red ingot]

Soon

[rose eagle]

I opened a ticket with psyonix

I bet no one will solve this riddle

[gray mirage]

you opened a rocket league ticket

[rose eagle]

For the good of all humans someone needs to understand how a game can lose knowledge it has focus

[gray mirage]

ye?

[rose eagle]

Yea

144fps alt tabbed, 10 focused = good fkin luck

I tried full screen and real time priority, nothing makes it take CPU

[steep gust]

alt tabbed means the GPU isn't having to render

[sonic osprey]

still the rocket league issue?

[red ingot]

Its sooooo gooood

And I haven't had a chance to dx12 yet cause I forgot to turn it on

[sonic osprey]

hmm? some new patch for dx12 again?

[steep gust]

DX12 is bad

as of right now in BFV

[sonic osprey]

gnh, had to reset windows and that cleaned my ssd where bfv was installed, cant test

maybe tomorrow then

[red ingot]

Panda says dx12 is much better now

Like dx12 > dx11 apparently

[latent light]

if you use RTX or RX 400/500, DX12 is supposedly better

DX12 also utilizes more cores

[steep gust]

DX12 is suppose to be on the GPU not on CPU

[latent light]

it does use more cores

wait nvm, DX11 is supposed to be less taxing on your CPU

[sonic osprey]

shadow of the tombraider, all low , 95-98% gpu, 40-50% cpu 🤔

120-130fps 3840x1080

[latent light]

older CPUs such as the AMD FX series or 1st and 2nd gen Intel CPUs will see better performance with DX12

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/CPU_FuryX.png

look at this for example

the average fps is way higher for older CPUs but there is more dips

maybe optimization issue?

very strange

[sonic osprey]

well could test bfv single player already, pretty steady 144fps 3840x1080

and cpu usage wont even go above 40% on all low, dx11, ffr

[latent light]

you got one of those Samsung 49" double wide monitors?

[rose eagle]

@steep gust my findings are dx12 on my 9700k 2070 FFR off is same perf as dx11 but min fps is much higher

I'm very satisfied with dx12 in V

[sonic osprey]

yes, practically 2x 27" fhd

[latent light]

I wonder how taxing a 1440p version of it would be

[sonic osprey]

less, it has less pixels than 2xfhd

[latent light]

I'm talking about 5120x1440 resolution

lol

[sonic osprey]

oh right

[latent light]

it can

[violet badge]

Would anyone be interested in the settings I used to get BFV to run at 60+fps@1680x1050 mostly Ultra on a 970 and a stock 2600k?

I have a feeling my 1070 results would be less interesting lmao

[sonic osprey]

there are some ultrawides for 1440p, but not double

but I kinda like this water cooled 9900k+2080 combo, maybe add watercooled 2080ti to the mix some day

[latent light]

ultrawides are terrible for esports

especially csgo

[sonic osprey]

i stopped playing cs in 2003

[latent light]

battlefield is amazing with ultrawide

[prime jasper]

ultrawide so it's useless outside modern games and desktop usage

:^)

[sonic osprey]

yeah, esp playing a recon, you have much more screen space and because you can see outside the scope

[latent light]

you get more field of view without adjusting the field of view lol

[prime jasper]

i dont need more fov to pwn

[sonic osprey]

bfv is funny adjusting the fov though, it somehow calculates it based on the horizontal fov

or dunno, I use the slider at 65 at the moment

[latent light]

wait until there are 8192x2160 monitors

will be achievable in a few years

[sonic osprey]

yeah most likely there will be, linus tech tips did the video about 3x3 fhd setup

they had 4 quadros I think

[latent light]

there probably is single monitors with that resolution already but they aren't in production yet because there is no GPU that supports it

[sonic osprey]

well gpus do support resolutions, but I would like to get that sort of resolution with large screen area, and then could play windowed, if they get the rendering working better in windowed mode

and then just integrate that with some custom "fullscreen snapping" windowmode

[latent light]

I'm thinking that next year Nvidia will release RTX 2100 series which will be a refresh with much better Ray-Tracing performance

and little bit better efficiency

[sonic osprey]

im thinking that they will see what amd cards will do, and then play their cards accordingly to either match amd or just wait till they have to show their hand

[latent light]

Nvidia and AMD have to change their architectures in the next fews years if they want to achieve colossal performance gains

they are at 14nm now, and there is a chance that anything smaller than 7nm is going to be a hard feat

[prime jasper]

i might go back to school so i can do engineering jobs

the shit i do is too easy

work is boring and menial

it's basically like working a retail job with way higher pay

[latent light]

hell, in the near-future, dedicated graphics cards may become outdated

[prime jasper]

sounds good to me

[latent light]

APUs are getting significantly better

[prime jasper]

that would be nice

[latent light]

I hope the Ryzen 5 3600G APU is right about having Navi 20 iGPU

[sonic osprey]

Building this pc reminded me again why do I hate this stuff, small cuts here and there, multiple curses when pieces dont fit and have to play tetris

[prime jasper]

buy higher quality cases

[latent light]

when your radiator is big and interacts with front panel cables

[sonic osprey]

I have artic R4

[prime jasper]

i get cut by sharp steel at work everyday

building a pc i dont get cut like that anymore

[latent light]

get one of those 4 feet tall cases lmao

[sonic osprey]

would need more real estate to fit custom loop nicely for sure

the thermaltake glass one :D?

[prime jasper]

tall cases used to be all the rage

now it's all about teeny tiny ones

[latent light]

Thermaltake Tower 900 lmao

[sonic osprey]

2018 and we still install PCIE cards diagonally to motherboard

[latent light]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133327&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Cases+(Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form)-_-N82E16811133327&gclid=CjwKCAiA0ajgBRA4EiwA9gFOR98aHamEh8WVkFJVazqbZa7_4e-Q6Slna1Bm2fMqJ_ZY-HN0-CHLyxoCQvQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

biggest case I think

[sonic osprey]

or whats the word for 90 degree angle

[prime jasper]

too many windows

[latent light]

right angle

[prime jasper]

i dont like windows in my cases

[sonic osprey]

orthogonally?

[prime jasper]

makes it look like youre a fuccboi

[sonic osprey]

perpendicular?

[latent light]

i want those cases with vertical GPU mounts and the open space on the sides

[sonic osprey]

I want mobo+ gpu+cpu where I can just slide the thing in and fasten with thumbscrews

[latent light]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133372&Description=thermaltake&cm_re=thermaltake-_-11-133-372-_-Product

this bad boy

[prime jasper]

apple use to make their mac pros like that @sonic osprey

[sonic osprey]

no power, no cables, just goddamn plug and play

[prime jasper]

apple had really cool case design a while back

you just drop with ease

[latent light]

I got a Apple PowerMac G4 case from 2000, it's so easy to open

[sonic osprey]

like these cases where they have ssd slots with prewireing, just plug the wires to mobo and slide the ssd in

[latent light]

there is a simple button on the side

[prime jasper]

hotswappable bays were really popular before

they moved away from that now

just like removable motherboard trays

remember that feature

i dunno why they axed that

[steep gust]

You can still do hotswappable drives on any recent motherboard

and removable motherboard trays were removed since it isn't that useful

[prime jasper]

he meant the case having it by default

yes they are

[steep gust]

I take my motherboard out

[prime jasper]

it's much easier to install a mobo with a removable tray

[sonic osprey]

but really it is not that useful, people stuff their shit in the case and forget it until its time to blow dust/upgrade some parts

[steep gust]

Lets see

Maybe every 6-12 months?

[prime jasper]

wait

why

why you removing it so much for

[steep gust]

Take AIO outside when its 0C

ez overclocking

[prime jasper]

what is inside AIOs anyhow? oil?

i never researched it

at work we use oil for cooling

[latent light]

condensation occurs whenever temperatures are too cool

[steep gust]

Water

[sonic osprey]

just sink the entire rig in mineral oil

[steep gust]

and condensation occurs when something is below ambient temps

[latent light]

mineral oil builds are cool, sucks whenever you're trying to clean off the oil though

[prime jasper]

dew point

[steep gust]

If ambient is 0C (aka outside in the winter) then condensation isn't a issue

[fiery smelt]

@sonic osprey the other day my front headphone jack was not working right, spent a solid 20 minutes finding out what plug was for the front IO

[prime jasper]

youre trying to say dew point betrayed

[fiery smelt]

I didn't care to label anytbing and just stuffed all cables behind the cable management shield thing lol

[sonic osprey]

@fiery smelt yeah, I spent too many minutes today figuring out the connectors, yet again

[prime jasper]

i just stuff my cables at anywhere also

that is why i dont like cases

i dont want to cable manage that much

[fiery smelt]

You should see my SSDs

[prime jasper]

it does nothing

[steep gust]

You realize the motherboard header (and most likely cable) has audio written on it?

[fiery smelt]

They're just dangling in there lol

[prime jasper]

you can just sticky tape ssds

[fiery smelt]

Best thing about those bastards, just throw then i there

Nah fuck that

[sonic osprey]

I have my case still open, and my old harddrives in the bay, moving files to new ssds and then getting rid of these old hdds

[fiery smelt]

Just connect em and hide them somewhere ot whatever

[sonic osprey]

gonna leave one for storage

[prime jasper]

all SSD future would be nice

[fiery smelt]

@steep gust it didn't tho

[sonic osprey]

1tb m.2 + 500gb standard ssd + 3g hdd storage

[latent light]

HDD will still be used for a while because reliability

[fiery smelt]

Maybe it did, idk

[latent light]

those new 16TB Seagate drives are wicked

[steep gust]

HDDs are also cheaper

4TB SSDs are like $1000

[latent light]

4TB HDD like $100

[sonic osprey]

10minutes and can test bfv fps in multiplayer 🤔

[latent light]

I got a 1TB WD blue HDD and a 500GB 970 evo M.2 SSD

[prime jasper]

imagine your 16TB seagate drive dying

with no backup

with your 10tb of anime

[latent light]

drives with that capacity are supposed to be more reliable than typical drives

common HDDs can last 10+ years pretty easy

[sonic osprey]

yeah, and you dont really have them on heavy use

[steep gust]

Also that 16TB drive isn't out yet

[sonic osprey]

its for storage, in a raid

[prime jasper]

BFV is raping my computer

[steep gust]

Its built for datacenters

[latent light]

you think a 16TB drive will be faster than a 1TB drive?

[sonic osprey]

so you have like 2-4 16TB drives in raid setup, so if one dies, then you have 3 copies left

[prime jasper]

I5-7500 and RX 480

[latent light]

skarz

how much ram you have and is it single channel or dual channel

dual channel ram will see a lot higher performance than single channel

[prime jasper]

8GB

[latent light]

is it a single stick?

8GB single channel will get raped by BFV lol

strange

[steep gust]

8GB is barely enough for BFV

Is the game on a SSD or HDD?

[latent light]

8GB will definitely see drops in 64 player modes

[prime jasper]

HDD

[sonic osprey]

no ssd at all?

[prime jasper]

Nah

[latent light]

SSD would only improve loading times lol

[prime jasper]

I get 60fps consistently

[sonic osprey]

depends if the game needs to use ssd/hdd for swapping because no memory available

[latent light]

60 fps consistently isn't raping your pc lol

[prime jasper]

There’s just a lot of loading times and sometimes the game crashes

[sonic osprey]

gonna go test this bad boy on multiplayer now

[latent light]

putting the game on a SSD would help with loading times

for crashes, can't do much about that

[prime jasper]

what bad boy you got there mr trump hat guy

[fiery smelt]

I get pretty frequent stutters with a gtx 1060 and i5 6600k, on low settings

[prime jasper]

I think it’s my gpu because last time it crashed my monitor went in to power save mode for like 5 seconds

[fiery smelt]

Idk about this game's optimisation tbh

[sonic osprey]

9900k, 2080, 16gb 3600mhz

[fiery smelt]

Look at mr moneypants over here

[latent light]

skarz what psu do you have

[prime jasper]

damn thats a beast rig

[latent light]

if your power supply is under 500 watts, it's not good for the RX 480

[steep gust]

8GB isn't really enough

the game will be accessing the page file

[latent light]

is it odd to have 3 sticks of ram?

i know that 3 sticks is still dual channel

and 4 sticks is too

unless you have a X399 or a Skylake-X motherboard

then you can have quad channel

[sonic osprey]

130-144fps, cpu seems to stay about 50-60%usage, gpu 80-90%, all low

[prime jasper]

nice

what is it on ultra

[sonic osprey]

Letssee

About 95-120, lot of variance, gpu capped most of the time

[latent light]

i like medium for graphics and performance

[fiery smelt]

@latent light everything low except fot mesh quality

[latent light]

daniel check your cpu usage in game

6600K is probably running maxed

[fiery smelt]

Yeah it is

[latent light]

put the settings 1 step higher like textures and shadows

should take some stress off cpu

[fiery smelt]

I haven't overclocked it either atm, because it was instabke at 4.4 and reverted back at some point and couldn't be bothered to do it

@latent light putting the video settings higher won't tske any load off of the cpu though

Just extra load on gpu

[latent light]

I played overwatch on a i5-4690K overclocked to 5.25GHz and playing at low settings caused my cpu to run at 90-100%

but medium put it down by 20-30%

[fiery smelt]

:l

That does not make sense in my brain

[latent light]

it's because the CPU is doing most of the work

[fiery smelt]

Weird

5.25 GHz lol

[latent light]

When you lower settings the bottleneck shifts from the graphics card to the CPU, when you raise settings the main bottleneck becomes the graphics card.

[prime jasper]

yeah grimace got a golden chip

he is a lucky bastard

[latent light]

lol

i got a ryzen 5 1600 now

sold that gold 4690K to my friend

[prime jasper]

i got no idea what is going on with this animu radio station right now. they playing smash brothers music

[fiery smelt]

4690k will never become outdated I feel like

[prime jasper]

how you liking ryzen

[fiery smelt]

It's such a good processor

[prime jasper]

4690k is outdated now

[latent light]

4 cores will become outdated soon

[prime jasper]

i just OC'd mine to make it last a little longer

[fiery smelt]

Ssshhhh

[steep gust]

4690k is already outdated

[latent light]

BF1 and BFV will make a 4 core run at 100% load lol

[fiery smelt]

4 cores 4 threads 😖

[prime jasper]

4690k isnt useful for modern titles outside 1080p at 60fps

it struggles at 1440p and cant do shit at 4k

[latent light]

6 cores and 12 threads is perfect

[prime jasper]

get threadripper grimace

[steep gust]

What

CPU load at 4k is very low

[latent light]

8 cores/8 threads will get the same performance as 6 cores/12 threads

[steep gust]

Threadripper is bad for gaming

[latent light]

not bad

just not the best

[steep gust]

Like really bad

Also no 12t > 8t in proper multithreaded application

[latent light]

8 real cores = 12 threads

[steep gust]

It also takes quad channel memory to really do anything

[latent light]

Threadripper gets ahead of Ryzen 7 in some games

[steep gust]

7700k and 8600k perform about equally since 6c vs 8t is pretty close

8700k vs 9700k is different because the 8700k still has an extra 4 threads that do help in some tasks

That and there wasn't any real improvements to IPC, clocks, etc

[latent light]

8th gen and 9th gen Intel IPC is the same

[sonic osprey]

But goddamn... Steady 140+ is godlike for sniping

9900k is really an overkill for bfv, need better gpu 😂

[latent light]

doesn't 9700K get ahead of the 9900K in most games?

[steep gust]

by like

margin of error

[latent light]

yeah 1-2%

lol

[steep gust]

tbh a 9900k is a little tempting

[latent light]

the only flaw with the 9th gen is that they applied a little too much solder

[steep gust]

but its fucking expensive and Cannonlake might be coming

Or Zen2 might be fucking amazing

Also I love the looks of the Maximus X Formula but couldn't find any, and the Maximus XI Formula looks like shit to me

Not sure why Asus had to change up the look that has been around for generations this time

[latent light]

don't think I'd pay over $300 for a cpu lol

[steep gust]

I paid $260 for my 8600k

[latent light]

imagine the face of 7600K users when the 8600K came out lmao

[steep gust]

I might buy a 9700k and pay silicon lottery to delid it

Imagine the faces of anyone who bought a 7700k for the 8600k to come out and be cheaper

[latent light]

yeah lol

[mental hatch]

delid a soldered chip?

[steep gust]

Uh yeah

Not hard

[mental hatch]

yea but its like a 2 degree difference

[steep gust]

5-10C

[latent light]

it's harder than a TIM paste chip for sure

[steep gust]

The only difference is you have to remove the solder

[latent light]

you have to heat it up don't you?

[steep gust]

Not for Coffeelake refresh

[sonic osprey]

i read no heating is required

[steep gust]

Heating up the solder causes it to flow and makes it harder to remove

[sonic osprey]

its just sanding basically

[steep gust]

Lapping the die =/= delidding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Doo-zgyQs

[sonic osprey]

not sure on the terms though, but read about sanding the solder and then lowering the thing under the solder like 0.1-0.2 mm?

to get best results

[steep gust]

You can scrap off the solder with a razor blade

Then use a special sandpaper to lap down the physical die (the actual CPU part) to help with heat transfer

[latent light]

probably 800 grit sandpaper

[steep gust]

Now you can't do it to the new Skylake-X CPUs (whatever they are called) because there is SMDs around the die that get scrapped off when removing the IHS

so RIP CPU if you try that, although heating it might allow it

[latent light]

Ryzen saw only 1-2C difference with delid lmao

[steep gust]

Ryzen also has other things limiting it and its solder job is good

[latent light]

amd solder is good because they been doing it forever

wasn't Intel 2nd gen soldered?

[steep gust]

They use the same technique as Intel

Hell AMD has to license it from Intel

Ye

[latent light]

license solder?

wat

[steep gust]

Intel owns patent

AMD pays Intel to use patent

Ivy-bridge to Coffeelake were paste TIM

[latent light]

AMD uses indium sheets for solder

how much does soldering increase the cost of production lol

[steep gust]

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7009289

There is the patent by intel

It reduces yields due to extra manufacturing (not every CPU will survive the soldering) and extra steps involved

The actual materials used aren't expensive

and here by the one for AMD that cites the Intel patent https://patents.google.com/patent/US8497162B1/en

huh Intel has a lot of neat patents

[latent light]

There's no definitive reason from Intel or otherwise why they switched to using TIM, it basically boils down to the fact that Intel's CPUs have concentrated hot spots. This causes uneven heating and exacerbates thermal fatigue. If solder were used, this could create cracks in it, leading to so-called voids that decrease the thermal efficiency. AMD doesn't have this problem because a lot of their CPU dies have hot spots that are more spread out. But using TIM to avoid thermal fatigue issues appears to be supported further by the fact that Ryzen 3 and 5 APUs have TIM in them instead of being soldered.

[queen field]

So

Am I missing out something

[rose eagle]

my buddy owns a 7700k, rip

oops was scrolled up

[hearty ivy]

Anybody gotten the constant minimising from fullscreen issue?
I still can't fix this fucking thing and I'm starting to lose my shit

[prime jasper]

Windows 10?

[hearty ivy]

Yep

[prime jasper]

Don't even have to answer, I know, we know, we all know, Windows 10 is AIDs, its okay

We understand, we're here for you

I wish I was still using Windows 7

[hearty ivy]

Yeah W10; updatedf NVidia drivers; however rolled the nvidia driver back and 0 difference

Just gunna see if CCleaner's Registry fixer might do it.

I am doubtful thouygh

Nope

Ok so just tested with FIFA19 as well; and that will keep coming out of Fullscreen as well

Will try a non-origin game

Yep does it to CoH2 as well

[latent light]

[pallid silo]

80 percent cpu usage 66 percent gpu usage average fps 125fps on BF5 GTX 1080 i7 6700 why doesn't my gpu get fully used... gets 99 percent in other games

[sonic osprey]

Memory?

[pallid silo]

16gb ddr4 3000mhz dual channel @sonic osprey

[sonic osprey]

Thats weird then, should not bottleneck the cpu

Xmp enabled in bios?

[pallid silo]

Ikr!! :/ I mean at least I get 120fps but I would like a locked 144

Ye xmp profile enabled

[sonic osprey]

But since cpu is not 90+, there is something limiting the frames for cpu side

[pallid silo]

future frame rendering on or off?

[sonic osprey]

Not sure if it matters, just testing dx12 w/o ffr myself, seems same fps for me

[pallid silo]

Ah okay! :) I do custom settings I don't need ultra lul

[prime jasper]

@pallid silo what resolution do you play at?

[red ingot]

Apparently ffr has no effect in dx12

[pallid silo]

@prime jasper 1080p 144hz

[prime jasper]

Ah

144fps should be reasonable, then.

I get like 100-120fps on battlefield 1 at 1440p high

[pallid silo]

True xD but it goes to 120fps most of the time and I wanna use 100 percent of gpu

[prime jasper]

Maybe a little more, not sure.

Strange.

[pallid silo]

@prime jasper gpu and cpu usage?

[prime jasper]

CPU idk, GPU 100%

I have a 1080.

[red ingot]

Might just be a cpu bottleneck

[prime jasper]

1440p 144hz gaming is awesome

[pallid silo]

What's your cpu?

[red ingot]

Was getting 50% gpu usage on my 4770k upgraded to 9700k now getting 100% gpu

[prime jasper]

R5 2600 @4ghz

[pallid silo]

Ahh okay I have a ryzen 7 1700 in my streaming pc

[prime jasper]

Cool

[pallid silo]

What's your ram

@red ingot I would upgrade but effort to get new mobo

[red ingot]

Lol

What do u mean

Like picking out a mobo?

I can show u the one I got

[pallid silo]

Ye xd

Ayeee

I currently have z170a sli plus msi

[prime jasper]

@pallid silo Corsair Vengeance LPX @3200

CL 16 I think, but I'm not 100% sure.

[red ingot]

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z390-E-GAMING/

that's the one I have - it's absolutely amazing

[prime jasper]

Mobo is a b350 tomahawk.

[red ingot]

full disclosure i just installed it with my 9700k only yesterday but i've had no issues so far haha

[prime jasper]

Why a 9700k?

[red ingot]

why not?

:3

upgraded from a 4770k

may as well get the latest if im upgrading

[prime jasper]

It just seems weird. Performance wise, it makes more sense to go all out with a 9900k, or go with an 8700k

[red ingot]

naw dude

[prime jasper]

The 9700 is like an uncomfortable middle ground.

[red ingot]

9700k is literally equivalent to 9700k for gaming

im using this pretty much exclusively for gaming - I don't do rendering or streaming etc.

so 9900k would have zero benefit for me

and as for 8700k the 9700k only cost $50 more, so I said why not

so yeah not a huge dif for the 9700k vs the 8700k performance wise, but it was a $50 difference

9700k - 9900k was $200 more and even less performance difference

[prime jasper]

Understandable

I'd have probably saved up a little longer and got the 9900k, but I love CPUs.

[red ingot]

lol

[prime jasper]

I'd be getting it in part for the novelty

[red ingot]

lol

yeah like i'd be able to afford it, it's more a question of is it worth it

[pallid silo]

@red ingot what's your gpu?

[red ingot]

thus why i was on a 4770k for so long

1080ti

[pallid silo]

Jesus xd

[prime jasper]

Nice

[red ingot]

:3

[pallid silo]

What's resolution

[red ingot]

1440p

[pallid silo]

Hz?

[red ingot]

144hz

[pallid silo]

1440p 144hz monitors are expensive as fuck xD

[red ingot]

yessir

[pallid silo]

My 1080p 144hz was 130 pounds

[red ingot]

yeah

my 1080p 144hz was $150 CAD like 5 years ago (got it on sale mind you)

this mofo on sale was $750 CAD on sale (although IPS panel, g-sync, and 1440p)

super expensive, but don't regret it - it's beautiful

[prime jasper]

@pallid silo mine was £230

[red ingot]

and im not upgrading this monitor until 4k 144hz is possible, and that'll be at least 5-10 years out

[prime jasper]

Less than $300

[pallid silo]

@prime jasper where from?

[prime jasper]

Ebuyer

https://www.ebuyer.com/838555-element-gaming-27-qhd-144hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-gs27-v2

@red ingot 4k 144hz us dumb. You'd be better off with ultrawide 1440p 144hz, or even 1440p 240hz.

[red ingot]

oof

but why

[prime jasper]

And shit, 1440p 144hz still isn't possible universally

[red ingot]

well yeah

[prime jasper]

Because the difference between 1440p and 4k is minimal at best.

[red ingot]

that's why i said at least 5-10 years

[prime jasper]

Tbh 5-10 years sounds generous.

I'd be surprised if we can even hit 1440p 144fps at ultra on AC Odyssey within 5 years

That game is a monster

[red ingot]

true

tbh idc that much

just means that this monitor will last even longer

[waxen flint]

My game tells me

I have 7/9 weapons unlcoked

ok

[sonic osprey]

welp, dx11+ffr = dx12 without in terms of fps for me now

both seems to be in the 140-144 range with limited frames

[fresh obsidian]

Question: I've got an older, Z170 Motherboard, an Intel i7 7700, and an older gen ASUS 1080. What kind of frames should I expect to get?

all standard cooling, no overclocking or anything like that

1080p, 144fps

[mental hatch]

Yea just about. the i7 is still pretty strong and 1080 is a good card for 1080p 144hz

Worst case you could get msi afterburner and oc your gpu a bit

[prime jasper]

You don't need anything more for 1080p 144hz

But at the same time, why use a 1080 for 1080p 144hz? A 1080 can handle 1440p 144hz easy

Everywhere it matters, anyway.

[mental hatch]

1440p 144hz on this game? Maybe if you turn down settings but seems a waste then to either get the tn panel dell one that's like the most bought or spend like an extra 1 to 2 hundred for an ips panel then lower settings in every game coming up

[prime jasper]

@mental hatch 144fps in Battlefield isn't hugely important imo

Anything between 100 and 120 is gonna feel vastly better than 60

And that would be reasonably achievable at medium/high ish settings

In a more up close and personal game like overwatch, 1080p might be fine, but battlefield is on a large scale, and so the extra detail at a distance is really nice at 1440p

Absolutely worth those 20-30 frames

I'd take 1440p/60 over 1080p/144 in battlefield, even.

[north crow]

my use case for a 4k 144hz monitor would be 4k on the desktop and 1440p in games

gotta get that crisp 200% scaling

[prime jasper]

1440 and 4k don't scale properly tho

[north crow]

true, but I imagine it wouldn't be too bad

in most cases anyway

[prime jasper]

Nah

It would be extremely washed out

Even when running at a higher resolution than native, the image gets washed out if they don't scale.

Trust me, it'd look really, really bad.

[north crow]

not really, I've played with sub-4k resolutions on my 4k monitor at work

it's not too bad

[prime jasper]

1080 would work fine.

[north crow]

though the best would be 1080p with just pixel doubling

yeah

[prime jasper]

1440 would not.

It wouldn't be double.

[north crow]

quadrupling yes

but double per axis

[prime jasper]

It'd be quadruple

Aye

[north crow]

I don't think nvidia cards let you do that though

[prime jasper]

Idk

Personally, I say just get 1440p. You won't notice the difference on the desktop

[north crow]

you definitely will

[prime jasper]

And it might even look worse, because you would need windows scaling.

You wouldn't.

[north crow]

I mean I already do

I switch between 2x 4k monitors at work and 1440p+1080p at home every day

everything is considerably more crisp at 200% scaling on the 4k monitors

[prime jasper]

🤷

It's your own money to waste

No skin off my balls

[north crow]

it's not wasting if it's useful for me 😉 that being said, the current 4k 144hz monitors are insanely expensive

so I'm not going for that anyway

[prime jasper]

And useless for gaming.

[north crow]

yeah

[prime jasper]

You can question it all you want, but the scaling would look bad

At 1440p

[north crow]

you're probably right that it would at 1440p

[prime jasper]

I am.

It would look washed out and awful

Really, really bad.

[north crow]

the stuff I played at sub-4k upscaled to 4k before was 1080p

[prime jasper]

That would be fine

[north crow]

yeah

[prime jasper]

But you'd be sacrificing your gaming experience for a cleaner desktop

Which seems dumb to me

[north crow]

yeah, especially since the use case I presented for 4k 144hz was "best of both worlds"

which it wouldn't really be, unless you're fine with 1080p for gaming

[prime jasper]

Aye

And if you can afford 4k 144hz, chances are you aren't fine with 1080p for gaming

[north crow]

hah

that too

[prime jasper]

And shit, if you care about resolution on the desktop, you definitely care about resolution in game

Just doesn't seem to work

Not now, anyway.

When 4k 60 in games like AC and 4k 144hz in games like Overwatch is relatively accessable, it would make more sense.

But I'm basically just saying "when 4k is as easy to run as 1440p, it'll make sense"

Which is far from where we are now

[north crow]

yeah, considering 4k is 2.25x the amount of pixels of 1440p

we're not really quite there yet 😛

[prime jasper]

Aye

[north crow]

(though it obv doesn't scale perfectly linearly)

DLSS seems interesting in that regard

[prime jasper]

1440p 144hz is the best gaming has to offer rn imo

[north crow]

excited to see a game implement it

and also that uh

what was that tech called

where parts of the screen can be rendered at lower res based on certain criteria

Wolfenstein 2 got that in a patch, afaik only works on the RTX 2000 series cards

[prime jasper]

Where anti aliasing only applied to certain objects?

W2 has it, but the performance difference isn't huge.

[north crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYiCE0b8-c&t=307s

[prime jasper]

Ik what you mean

It's interesting tech, but not groundbreaking.

And it would be least useful on RTX cards

Given they're already pretty powerful

[north crow]

could be helpful trying to reach 144

not sure how well wolfenstein 2 runs

[prime jasper]

It would only really make sense at 4k, but then it still wouldn't, because AA at 4k is basically unnecessary

And every rtx card will run W2 at 1440p 144

[north crow]

it's not just AA afaik

[prime jasper]

It isn't a hard game to run

It's basically just AA

[north crow]

looking at the video, it's rendering certain areas at a clearly lower res

entirely

[prime jasper]

Aye

It does look worse, too

[north crow]

that's a given

[prime jasper]

It isn't simply free performance

I'm not too impressed by it

[north crow]

but the idea is that it looks worse in areas where you don't notice it as much

[prime jasper]

Aye

[north crow]

seems to be about 10fps difference in this one scene they demo

at 4k I think?

[prime jasper]

Probably

You'd break 200 at 1440 anyway

And very few people will be playing at 4k 100+hz

[north crow]

still, I'm excited for any and all optimizations 😛

[prime jasper]

So this is basically useless

It's not entirely useless, but currently, it's basically useless.

[north crow]

will be useful in a few years, especially if more games implement it

[prime jasper]

Aye

It could become great

Atm it isn't

[craggy dagger]

anyone here having stutters since the new driver 416.94?

[north crow]

haven't noticed any on my 1080 Ti

but I think I've seen people mention some issues with that driver on reddit

[prime jasper]

@craggy dagger I haven't, but I had really bad issues with some of the early 400 drivers, so it doesn't surprise me to hear it

What's the problem?

Ah, stutters

Are you using DX12?

If so, don't do that.

[craggy dagger]

no

[prime jasper]

Strange.

[craggy dagger]

im using 1060 6gb

should i upgrade to 417?

[prime jasper]

Open up task manager, play for a while and when you see a stutter, look for a spike

Yes

If you have the same issue afterwards, try rolling back.

Also, when you install 417, do a clean install.

[craggy dagger]

really?

why a clean install? i never do that

[prime jasper]

@craggy dagger maybe that's why you're having issues

[craggy dagger]

i always do normals and its ok

[prime jasper]

Except it isn't

You're having stutters

[craggy dagger]

i mean, the previous was ok and i did normal

[wet notch]

lol i've fooled dice/nvidia!

after the patch it said i had to update my geforce driver to play the game, so i did but got worse fps

so i just rolled back the driver in device manager but could still play the game

and surprise surprise, my fps went back up again, and it doesnt detect me using the old gfx driver

[craggy dagger]

WHAT DRIVER do you use?

[wet notch]

the good one im using right now is 25.21.14.1694

getting about 115-120 fps on all settings on low and some config tweaks with a gtx 970

[prime jasper]

all settings on low

💩

[wet notch]

well of course

i need a new gfx card

[old gazelle]

what cards are people running on battlefieild V and what do you get for performance leave a comment below

i run a 1070

[prime jasper]

I get like 120fps ish at 1440p high on BF1, with a 1080

Don't have V, but from what I've seen they perform pretty similarly

[craggy dagger]

should i upgrade to 417.01?

[tame path]

gtx 960 2gb 45-60 on 720p all low depending on how much action is going on

[fresh obsidian]

@prime jasper I'm using a 1080 for 1080p because I don't have a monitor that is 1440p

[prime jasper]

You should get one, they aren't too expensive now.

[old gazelle]

my 1070 oc can do 1440 on ultra at 60

on bf5 and 1

[prime jasper]

My 144hz 1440p TN was £230

[old gazelle]

i want a 32 inch samsung 1440p 144hz

they are only like 350

[craggy dagger]

i asked about a driver upgrade

i have a 1060 6gb

[prime jasper]

@old gazelle cool

I have a 27"

I prefer it for 1440p, feels just about perfect for me

Any bigger and it starts to look like 1080p again

[fresh obsidian]

I only get 100-120 fps on Medium-High settings

Feels like I should be getting 144 :/

[lavish wyvern]

do you prefer low settings for a slight competitive advantage or high/ultra for beautiful graphics? I've been running on low for a few days but I think I'm gonna go back to ultra

[mental hatch]

after playing on a 1050 to a 1050ti to a 1070 i cant touch low settings anymore it hurts too much

unless its like AA and shadows in which case that gets lowest it can

[wispy wing]

Alt tabbing crashing my game

anyone else?

[gaunt depot]

We talk FPS optimizations here?

[wispy wing]

Ok discord overlay and dx12 will crash your game when alt tab.

[gaunt depot]

Dx12 crashes everything. It’s shit

Can’t play shadow of tomb raider with dx12 or rise of the Tomb Raider or BF V (though better after last update)

[prime jasper]

^

DX12 is dumb.

It shouldn't even exist.

[rose eagle]

works 100% amazing for me 😉

are you on windows 1809?

latest nvidia drivers released days ago

im not sure if RTX cards have any changes in how dx12 works, i wouldnt think so but who knows

9700k + 2070 + dx12 = butter smooth 100fps min 1% time fps though

you need to try it with FFR off

or at MOST FFR 1 frame

[prime jasper]

DX12 just seems to stutter with a lot of people.

[rose eagle]

i think the problem is people arent trying the right combo of settings or have the right hardware

[prime jasper]

And even when it doesn't, it's no better than DX11

[rose eagle]

but yea i mean they had to get DX12 working for RTX

i mean.. it's much better for min fps

[prime jasper]

Also

RTX

[rose eagle]

and i dont have to use FFR

[prime jasper]

[rose eagle]

so no input latency

i got about +20fps on my .1% 1% time fps

benchmarks wont show you this

avg fps might move 5fps or something and everyone shrugs at dx12

[prime jasper]

yo even 75hz feels so much better than 60

Finally got my monitor running at 75hz and im wondering how i could ever play on 60

[old gazelle]

I just throw it on ultra and play also yes @craggy dagger update your drivers for best performance

[rotund totem]

Game update is stuck on 100%

[craggy dagger]

@old gazelle ahm ahm DANNYONPC'S PC BROKE BECAUSE OF THAT

[queen field]

@prime jasper does ur computer revert back to 60hz?

like for whatever reason, it will change back to 60hz with no reason

need mine to stop reverting my 68hz to 60hz

[prime jasper]

@queen field

no

im using this program

https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

[queen field]

@prime jasper yea im using CRU too

problem is windows is being an asshole to me

[prime jasper]

im using win7

[queen field]

huh, could be windoze 10 i guess

even did another check on my oc

its perfect even with a 1/2 shutter speed

no frame skips from https://testufo.com/frameskipping

[prime jasper]

does windows completely delete the custom resolution?

[craggy dagger]

react to this message and if it gets 10 reactions i will download 417.01 (i think thats how its called)

MAYBE ahm

[rose eagle]

417.22 yo

[prime jasper]

whats the point of these drivers anyway

didnt even improve my fps

[narrow fable]

They do tonnes xd

They help with stability, and just because the fps in one of your games hasn't increased doesn't mean that another one's hasn't xd @prime jasper

[sonic osprey]

yep, it might not hit exactly your hardwares if/else branch for the update

but since they want easier upgrading for themselves instead of optimized drivers per hardware, you all get the same patch everytime they do something

[runic glade]

Guys, is someone here good when it comes to networking?
I need some help with basic TCP stuff (related to the 3 way handshake)
syn / syn ack / ack

[red ingot]

@storm osprey ?

Ohh

Obviously @red ingot

God how could I forget

Hes super cool

[runic glade]

I need this help

lmao

I can't find anything on Google about that specific case

http://prntscr.com/lsfvjw

I have know idea if this is correct

[sonic osprey]

ugh, cant remember much from tcp/ip networking course back in 2002

that is like fill the blanks question? and your proposed solutions are the blue text in bottom? shouldn't there be some increment in the seq's based on the acks

[rose eagle]

lol such question for a basic hardware tech chan in a battlefield server 😄

[sonic osprey]

I'm guessing this is some online test :D

[storm osprey]

@red ingot ?!

[sonic osprey]

its just like people are so lazy in their programming homeworks and they use stackoverflow (professional stack exchange site) to get someone to do their coding for internet points

[red ingot]

I said you were cool @storm osprey

[rose eagle]

psyonix is asking me to disable every single non MS service in msconfig to try to troubleshoot my issue lol

yea f that, it breaks everything

[red ingot]

Why lol

[rose eagle]

they're reaching at straws

i get that you have to go through your normal procedure, but they need to dig deep to understand how windows could just all a sudden not think anything CPU intensive is running anymore

this is a real sob of a problem

[red ingot]

yea

guess u should just play bfv > rocket league

[rose eagle]

new poe league started yo

😄

newegg 500gb 970evo on backorder at newegg x_x

i dont need more than 250 for my OS/Program file drive

be a waste really but hard to pay $78 for 250 when 500 is $118

[red ingot]

oof

that's a damn good sale

[rose eagle]

i gotta burn this $50 newegg card by end of month though

i mean normal price appears to be $100 for 250 and $150 for 500 so they just charge a lot for 250

[red ingot]

yeah

i guess $/gb goes down as u go higher

[rose eagle]

you like your mobo?

[red ingot]

yeah

no issues so far

[rose eagle]

is there any RGB on it?

[red ingot]

sorry lol haven't gotten a lotta benchmarks done xD

and yah there is

😄

[rose eagle]

just on left or?

[red ingot]

just left

😦

but still rgb

plus my RAM does all the rgb for the right anyways

[rose eagle]

man i really love my circuit RGB...

[red ingot]

:p

plus there's a few rgb headers on the board if u wanna get the strips

to put in your case

[rose eagle]

yeh.. i got one addressable

and a couple normal RGB headers

but that dead air cpu bleed..

if im playing something its no problem but if i ever just have nothing going on and i put my headset on first 😄

its really a "non-issue"

[red ingot]

dead air cpu bleed?

[rose eagle]

but with this RL issue... 😄

yea like no volume or sound from games in speakers

then i can hear that hum